Out of everything this show fumbles in this is the biggest mistake

>>91718566
Neat, I remember this phase. There's like two more steps before you realize that giving a shit is a waste of your time.

>>91718566
Steven is so fucking ugly and annoying. That is one punchable face.

My best guess would be that the writers were too autistic to understand someone can have more than one friend and decided connie would be the one to fill that role

It's been too long since I've watched the first season to say much more

>>91718718
And if you watched the show, the fucker would defeat you every time you tried to punch him.

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>>91718566

Ok, am i the only one who has A SERIOUS FUCKING PROBLEM WITH STEVENS FUCKING NOSE LIKE GOD FUCKING DAMN WHY THREE LINES.

WHY IS RUBY'S VOICE SO FUCKING ANNOYING

WHY HASN'T STEVEN GROWN UP AND HAVE HIS VOICE DEEPEN

WHY ARE THE SIZES SO FUCKING INCONSISTENT

WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET A NON-FILTER EPISODE

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>91718566
If not part of the main crew he could've just been a great friend to help ground Steven. Connie and Greg can't really do that because they're too involved in all the gem stuff.

>>91718754
The character isn't real, 300 years Anon.

>>91718754
Hammer to the gem

>>91718754
Too bad when people punch your fat, ugly, autistic face, there's no space trannies yo save you, huh?

>>91718757
OINKOINKOINK

>>91718754

CRAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWLLLLLLIIIIIINNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGG

>>91718566
>Steven hangs out with Onion, the Cool Kids, Lars and Sadie more than Peedee
There's something very strange about Steven not interacting with people his own age. Peedee could have been the friend that grounds Steven and been an example of a 'normal' kid Steven's age. Steven could have gotten Peedee to loosen up and gain more freedom to enjoy the short adolescence he had left and Peedee could have helped Steven act more his own age and not a stunted 8 year old in a 14 year old's body.

But it feels like he was kept away from Steven for that purpose, because he would crush Steven's childlike wonderment under the crushing gaze of peer criticism.

>>91718754
THREE HUNDRED YEARS

>>91718765
>>91718793

Newfag here. What's the 300 years meme?

>>91718613
I just skipped the caring and hating part and just enjoyed it as a mediocre but fun enough cartoon from the beginning

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>>91718797

>>91718754
I want to play a game, /co/.
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Random
Click this link to gain a power, only one, no cheating.
Can you defeat Steven and the gems?

>>91718566
He's just a fucking white male.

>>91718784
>BLUH BLUH MUH FEELINGS
>Shut up Steven, you're a freak of nature
>You're literally the offspring of a burnt out piece of trailer trash and an alien crystal pretending it has emotions

>>91718760
its not even that though, we already have the majority of the cast as girls, why do they need another one like connie? Her whole book fetish could've easily been apart of peedee's personality considering he was shown to be a kids thats very deep in his shell, plus pearl is the knowledgable one. There is no need for connie, she does nothing for the show except being strank wemin.

>>91718806
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Cosmic_Energy_Physiology
Easily.

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>>91718566
the more I think about it, the more i wish that steven and peedee could've been best friends and that he would get more screen time.

i don't even care if they would be gay for each other or not though i would kinda prefer it

this show is 2% mediocre animation, 2% mediocre story, and 96% wasted potential.

>>91718831
ROCK PEOPLE
ROCK PEOPLE
TASTE LIKE ROCK
WALK LIKE PEOPLE

>>91718806

http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Monster_Soul

Yeah could work. Depending on the monster I could probably shatter a gem.

>>91718842

How do you know what a rock tastes like, Anon?

>>91718806
>Truth Denial

I literally make my lies the reality of the universe. I can defeat anyone.

>>91718819
I don't see why we can't have both.

>>91718854
>muh love triangle arc

>>91718862
God no, that's not what I meant.

>>91718851
https://youtu.be/iGy-QISVhTE?t=35s

>>91718879
the writers would've done that though, the sardonyx arc is enough proof of that

>>91718838
I don't even mind having Connie still be in it if they really wanted it, the main character, best friend, and girl dynamic is a popular trope and it would have connected Steven a little more to a human aspect. They kind of touched on how Steven felt like an outcast with humans and gems but if he actually had a solid core of best human friends to help him connect more with being human that would have helped a lot.

>>91718566

You're right.

>>91718757

- I don't think Ruby has an annoying voice.
- Steven hasn't grown up because he's slow and his physical development mirrors his emotional and mental development. He's surrounded by hypercompetent (Even the slacker is a better warrior than any human) super-beings who are thousands of years old and fighting an incredible war against monsters and aliens - not much motivation to grow up and put your foot down. Beach City in some ways is a sort of fantasy land, this isolated corner of the world - a holiday resort inhabited by fun-loving goofballs and weirdos - kind of how a child sees the world anyway. Plus he is half gem, so who the fuck knows? He might live for thousands of years, so relatively speaking he's newborn.
- I don't know why they don't make the sizes inconsistent. It's annoying as fuck.
- I don't even understand why we have filler episodes at all.

>>91718768

You'd have to sneak up on him, which is impossible, because Garnet would know you were going to try. And you'd have to shatter him on the first go, or he'll just lick himself better.
Afterwards you'd have to contend with five extremely pissed-off alien warriors.

>>91718806

>http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Pain_Empowerment

>Users become stronger, faster, more durable, etc. by the pain of oneself and others, possibly unlocking abilities related to the affinity and enhancing the existing powers. Some users may be able draw sustenance from the pain or even slow or stop aging.

Uh. Would Pearl make me super-powerful?

Holy shit, what a sucky power to have if you want to be a hero.

>>91718896
That's when the show started to really go downhill IMO. Peridemption arc was okay though.

>>91718851
By not listening when my parents told me not to eat one.

Spoiler alert, they're pretty salty.

It is kind of odd that Peedee's not been used more.

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>>91718806
I cannot be trusted with this much power.

>>91718805

Calvary =/= cavalry

>>91718931
Has he had any focus since Frybo

>>91718931
He probably wasn't because the storyboard artists, who make the show, relate more to the older characters or mistake Onion to be the same age as Steven to pair together. Why have Steven spend time with Peedee when they have little in common aside their dead parents and responsibility put on them. Peedee would probably get annoyed by Steven like how Steven gets annoyed by Peedee's older brother.

Though honestly that would have been a funny dynamic and serves a missed opportunity.

>>91718927

I'd be salty too if my kid was so dumb he ate rocks.

>>91718964
He was a big part of Rising Tides/Crashing Skies and had a focus last season in Restaurant Wars. That's about it.

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>>91718566
Those were halcyon days ripe with potential.

>>91718566
I hadn't really thought about this before, but it makes a hell of a lot of sense.

>>91718806
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Aerokinetic_Surfing

>air surfing

no, but my battle would be totally radical.

>>91718806
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Papyrokinetic_Blade_Construction
Two words: Paper. Boomerang.
I'd suck at fighting Lapis or Ruby though.

Peedee's a busy responsible boy who just wants to work at his job.

The only way the interaction would work is if Steven does the whole "get you out of your shell" thing or Peedee does the "you have to learn to be more responsible" thing and that would all just be a rehash of his relationship with Connie.

So basically it's not happening because it doesn't offer anything new.

>>91718806
Dragon Breath. Can I beat him?

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>>91719039
The bigger question is...can you beat his mom?

>>91718757
>Why are their sizes so inconsistent
Their outer appearance is merely a concious manifestation of light.

>>91718806
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Matter_Manipulation

ez

>>91718806
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Body_Language_Analysis
I feel like I could probably be one of their most balanced enemies if I was with the intergalactic military or some shit.

>>91718737
You have to be pretty autistic to care about Peedee.

>>91719039
>>91719055
Does he have fire breath or does he spew dragons?

>>91718806
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Deity_Manipulation

Way too easy.

>>91719034
>Connie teaching Steven to be more responsible
What? Steven learns responsibility and the tough lessons from bad gem shit happening, not from Connie explicitly. She also hadn't matured, it can be argued that Steven infected Connie and removed her own maturation from his exposure.

>>91718817
>pretending it has emotions
Their pretty good at pretending

>>91719055

Let's face it, if Pearl seriously wanted you dead, you'd be dead. If she didn't have to worry about keeping someone safe, or Steven see her doing something awful, who the fuck could even stop her? Garnet, MAYBE.

If she so chose, Pearl would be a massacre machine - a giant blender with a nose.

>She is walking towards you
>Your gang is tensely holding their weapons
>Six holo-Pearls flare into existence around her, moving in perfect sync, photonic spears gleaming with the terrifying promise of death at the edge of a weapon made of light
>"Shoot! Shoot! Goddammit, SHOOT HER ALREADY!"
>They all know to aim for the gem
>It doesn't even take a full second and she is on you, your team a gruesome carpet of sliced meat and steaming blood
>"You shouldn't have threatened my son" is the last thing you hear as her ice-blue eyes stare unblinkingly in yours and her spear gently slides into your heart like a knife though pudding

That is assuming she would even opt for an open attack.

>>91719082
That doesn't explain why Steven needs a stool to reach his counter now compared to the 3rd episode

>>91719124

I am pretty autistic and I do.

You are correct, anon.

>>91719130

Ah, but what if there are no deities to manipulate?

You'd be as powerful as Lapis... on the moon.

>>91719055
I can beat off all moms

>>91719174
The page says I can create Gods too.

>>91718566
>People complain that the show focuses too much on human characters.
>People complain that the show doesn't focus on one specific human character

>>91718974
>I've seen him naked!
And I only threw up twice!

>>91719158

He feels smaller? Lots of stress and pressure and responsibility.

He learned since that there is an alien empire out there that wants to kill him. That would make anyone feel small.

>>91719132
>Steven learns responsibility and the tough lessons from bad gem shit happening, not from Connie explicitly.
She taught him plenty of sensible everyday stuff.

"Books are good" for instance.

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>>91719153
Depends on the human.

>>91719185

Oh. Holy shit, who would even come up with such an OP power? That defeats any scenario. Boring.

>>91719192

People will complain no matter what. Be glad you're not in the Transformers fandom.

>>91719206

Pssssh. If the Emperor was real, the Homeworld Gems would not dare to invade.

>>91718806
>partial teleportation
>teleport parts of people away

Could make a good horror flick. Find Connie, teleport her heart into his bed while he sleeps. Teleport the gemstones out of the gems and put it in his toilet before he gets up. Teleport a townie's tongue into his asshole while he's making a snack after lunch. Teleport his dad's head onto the set of the morning news.

I won't even need to defeat him.

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>>91718566

Cont.

I wanna go a step further in my argument in omitting connie cause some people in this thread think the show would be fine if both peedee and connie were close to steven

In pic related is from both characters first episode appearances, these pics are of both reacting to there first gem monster encounter, now just look at both for a second and see the problem here. You see that stark difference in reaction? give me a reason why people shouldn't call connie a mary-sue? Give me a flaw of hers that isn't something every other mundane kid has.Contrast, just off the first episode, Peedee is set up with three basic traits that can be expanded, his desire to prove his worth to his dad, (again a rose parallel) His over reliance on needing approval (pearl training him) and his pit fall in trying to grow up to fast without catching a break to soak in the present (something both him and steven can overcome together).

But back to the reactions though, I just really love how off the bat connie kills her first gem monster lmao. (it was her idea to go under the boardwalk) a girl who is supposedly smuffered by both parents and not having many grand adventures on her own but is pretty 'oh a foreign monster *yawn*' she doesn't run (cause ""powerful"" women run the show) nor does she ask steven, she just hatches and idea and first go both characters defeat the monster. No disagreement and no hassle its boring, its safe and connie sucks steven off by the end of it congratulating him. If shes such a wizz kid and is shown to have no friends shouldn't the show back up this claim? Maybe make her be a typical smart ass and she remarks. "Oh it was no hassle, I thought of it." My conplaint with connie is she and steven don't gel well together. The creator just made them to perfect. She doesn't learn from trial and error, if maybe these character worked as a brain and braun type deal then yeah it'd be decent, connie would learn as the series went along to stop being a smart

>>91718968
The rock wasn't his parent. He's not Steven.

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>>91719222
Swap Lorgar for Pearl.
Worst Primarch = Worst Gem.

>>91719015
>not Kami Kaze (paper wind)
You had one job.

>>91719332
Fuck.....

>>91719125
Like, fire breath, but magical dragon energy. The entry literally said "not to be mistaken with fire breath"

>>91718806
>http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Random
Could be hard, but doable

Could Warhams' Imperium take on the Gem empire? Assume present canon Imperium and Peak Gem empire

>>91719185
Checkmate Atheists.

>>91718566
Because he's a white blond male.

>>91719371
Depends on the Admech's help.
Gem fusions are strong.
Warlord titans are stronger.

A loyal Angron or DAOT imperium would murder everything.

>>91718566
>>91718813
His name is also "peedee", as in Police Department.

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>>91719371
>Did I just hear "GAY ALIENS"!? Uh oh, SMASH IT!

>>91719288
cont.

And steven started acting his age. Another strong point in both characters relationships is the fact tht connie is in school while steven does not have any school in his life and its shame, half-hour episodes are spent on one off uncle andy shenanigan episodes and not something like steven and connie going to school and steven and connie interacting in a school environment, something our protagonist is not used to but his side protagonist is, throw in magical drama in the mix. andy ou'd get really good development out of it. Maybe they fight, maybe this can be where they fuse after finding a midway for eachother, but no, instead the best we get is episodes like fusion cuisine that both show potential of maybe another side to connie-sue but the show step back from it, showing a strong distaste in souring there little feminist pooch. I just odn't get how people can say this is there fave character when she is simply horrible at being both a good friend and a love interest, she tries to be everything instead focusing on one thing. Much like this whole show

I could literally go on forever with character, so if anons want my shitty opinions and ideas go for it

>>91719236

Could you really do that? I mean, emotionally? Murder people in grotesque ways?

>>91719236
>her heart into his bed
not the top half of her body so it looks like she snuck in and slept in his bed with him only for steven to realize that his bed is covered in blood and connie won't wake up

>>91719509
I mean, they are trying to defeat Steven. Clearly they are a villian.

>>91719509
Not that anon but I'd steal all of their asses.
Just for laughs.

>>91718806
>Object conjuring

Jsut need a sleeping dart and the breaking point and he's dead.

>>91719456
>Steven in school
>his time with the gems makes him an ace at history
>we actually learn more about what Rose, Garnet, Pearl, and Amythest did during human history and all the good things about it
>we don't get an image of Rose saving Franz Ferdinand and preventing WWI
>we don't get a perspective outside his hero worshipping guardians that the Gems had a positive influence on the world and humanity's direction after the Gem War finished
>Steven also sucks at one subject so he isn't great at everything in school, let's say science so later on Peridot can help him with homework

>>91718806
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Zoolingualism

To be honest I think anyone with a functioning brain could defeat Steven and the gems. Just use homemade bombs or some shit. If unpopular teenagers can do it, I probably can.

>>91718806
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Genetic_Attacks?useskin=oasis
Could I at least corrupt/mutate Steven into being just a quiet, crying pink blob?

>>91718566
>this is the biggest mistake

jejejeje no, it is not. Besides people ship them enough already they could demand a gay relationship for Steven and this doesn't seem the plan so no, thanks.

>>91718566
Is Peedee even on the show anymore? I remember he was supposed to be Steven's best friend, but turns out he switched that with Connie.

>>91719971
Seriously, it would be easier to write him off (maybe have him move in with another relative) than pretend he's still a character

>>91719971
>he was supposed to be Steven's best friend,
word of god? or what?

>>91718806
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Supernatural_Thievery?useskin=oasis

I'll just steal his gem.

Maybe they kept him away because when they introduced Connie it would have added an implicit fandom-forced love triangle.

>>91718927
*wince*

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>>91718806
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Planar_Entity_Physiology
>Known Users: The God Hand (Berserk)
I would fucking wreck him

>>91718974
Connie's glasses shouldn't have gl-

oh God... what am I doing.

>>91719153
You're forgetting her ranged energy blast attack.

>>91719196
Why is Connie shorter then?

>>91719370
Are... are you a funny guy?

>>91720090
>StevenXConnie vs PeedeeXConnie

>>91718566
Peedee would've been the perfect 'MC best friend' character for Steven too bad the crew made him be friends with a street shitter

>>91718806
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/10th_Dimension_Physiology

>The ability to be absolutely everything in one.

Well this just seems unfair.

>>91718566
Pee Dee's kind of a boring character objectively. He'd probably just end up being the Squidward to Steven's spongebob.

>>91718806
>http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Digital_Shield_Construction

What an irony.

>>91718806
>Amusement Park Monarchy
if we are in a Amusement Park than yes no question

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>>91718806
>Concussion Beam
>Basically Cyborg's power

Oh, definitely.

>>91718806
>http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Absolute_Storage
Not really well versed in Steven Universe so I wouldn't know if the Gems have any counters against this power, but I think I stand a pretty solid chance at the very least of defeating all of them, if they have no counters against Absolute Storage then I could picture myself win 10-0 if I have a good grasp over it.

>>91718806
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Humility_Augmentation
I get that I have had a fling with diplomacy as a means to solving all major disputes, but I'd honestly prefer Pain Empowerment given the choice. You guys always have all the fuuuuuun.
>CryingJasper.png

>>91718806
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Shield_Construction

I got fucking Shield Construction.

Two fucking wobbuffets pinned against eachother, Steven and I

>>91721431
The Diamonds better prepare for trouble!

>Implying that Peedee isn't destined to fall in love with Kiki and unite the clans

>>91720919
If I had to pick between Lars or Peedee I'd snap Peedee up in a heartbeat. There's more you can do with him being the 'no fun Squidward' compared to Lars, who is overall just shit in general.

>>91721431
>Toa Tahu's on the top of the list.
Very nice.

>>91718806
>Key Creation
Fucking incredible. I'm a robber not a fighter.

>>91719288
>>91719456
Good posts

>>91718757
>WHY IS RUBY'S VOICE SO FUCKING ANNOYING
This, it turns me off on every Ruby character. Especially that psychotic "nice" one.

>>91718566
Because he's a thin privileged cis white male

>>91718754
What an autistic post

>>91718806
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Stench_Generation
*BRAAAAPT*

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>>91719153
How fascinating this creatures are.

>>91719971
How is Connie Steven's best friend when she's blatantly his girlfriend? The show can't have it both ways.

Well, I mean I guess they can but it's boring when Steven could be having interaction with more than 1 person instead of only hanging out with Connie.

>>91719010

*Xtreme

>>91718806
>Winter Magic
Hell yes, I can freeze the gems solid and create an army of sentient snow golems

Elsa>>>>The Crystal Gems

>>91718566
The crew are hacks and decided to develop the teenage/young adult characters because they're easier for them to write

>>91718806
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Fat_Inducement?useskin=oasis
>I stuff greasy burgs down their throats till they croak

Probably won't work, but damn if it'll be worth it to try

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>>91718754
I don't really get why saying "I'd punch this character" isn't worse than "this character would beat you anyway".

>>91718806
Someone screencap this.

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>>91718806

Come on steven, can you defeat a god?
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Artificial_Godhood?useskin=oasis

>>91718897
>They kind of touched on how Steven felt like an outcast with humans and gems

The problem is the show never address this and the way it's presented it's pretty much exactly the opposite.

>>91719903

Except for the quiet - not much of a change, is it?

>>91720168

Since they fused, she, too has been changed. She's not 'part gem'... but I guess you could say she is 'part Steven'.

How else can we explain she can wield Thorn-Edge*, which was forged for Rose - an eight-foot gem amazon? Damn blade must be four foot long. But Connie can wield it.


* I was gonna call it 'Shatterpetal' but then I remembered it doesn't shatter, it just poofs.

>>91720159

True. But I assume she'd want a little... personal edge to this.
"I wanted to look you in the eye, so you'd understand why you die."

>>91720543

Can we call USAmericans 'School shooters'?

>>91721228

Trade you, then? I got Pain Empowerment, but I am more into dominating beautiful, powerful women. Humility Augmentation would make Pearl go to her knees.

>>91723595

You will never have what you truly want, Lex.

>>91725961
>the show never address this

Well... Onion's Gang was kind of about that.

>>91718776
underrated

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REMOVE XENOS

>>91723917
Never in the show have they mentioned they're BF and GF. They haven't even started dating.

>>91718806
>http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Force-Field_Penetration
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>91718566
He's better than Onion and Lars that's for sure.

>http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Serqekinetic_Entity_Creation

Does anyone know if real-life gems dissolve in acid? I might be able to kill the Gems off for real

>>91718806
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Power_Immunity?useskin=oasis

So, I win. Suck it crystal cucks.

I will not tolerate clickbait titles.

>>91718806
>Metal dust manipulation

Unlikely unless the battle takes place in a beach with high iron content.

>>91732061
Just Gaara that shit

>>91718566
I remember watching this episode when the show first came out. I agree their interactions seemed genuine and well-written. The fact that he is a side character when I got into the show last year shocked me. How do you have such a meaningful interaction only for the characters to act like it never happened?

>>91718806

http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Impact_Manipulation

> The user can manipulate the forces of impacts and collisions and make objects come to a dead stop after hitting something, or bounce back from hitting something. They can also cause objects to move and push things they hit if they have large mass and also control the amount of deformation, heat and sound that occurs in a collision, or even use this to cause objects to tear through walls. With enough training, the user can turn their surrounding environment into a pinball machine-like environment.

...

So, I think I'll get myself some of those high-bounce balls and peg them as hard as I can at Steven's house...

I might not be able to shatter all of the Gems before they can stop me, but I'd like to think I'd take out at least one (probably Steven)...

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>>91718806
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Acid_Ball_Projection
>Acid Ball Projection

You can break gems, I bet you can melt them too.

>>91731883
You can dissolve pearls with vinegar

>>91718566
I want to put my peedee in peedee

>>91719222
Doubt it, they think they're hot shit. They would see how wrong they are soon enough.

>>91719392
The bolter is ridiculous for an enemy with a weak spot. Even if you miss the explosion might hit it anyway. Assuming no penetration, but even if it did I doubt that would be fun for anybody, even a hard light being.

>>91718831
>riggers

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>>91718806
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Time_Bomb_Generation

Not only would I beat him, I'd break him by constantly trapping him in a time loop where he has to watch his precious Crystal Gems explode and crumble to dust. That or have him watch as Connie, Greg, or other human townies are constantly aged/exploded to death only for it to rewind and happen again. Shit I'd use this power just to fuck with Garnet and cause her to shit bricks as I break her future vision by screwing with time and/or unwind her out of fusion and blow up Ruby in front of Sapphire. I'd drive her insane blowing Ruby up over and over again in a cat and mouse game to see who can outpredict/outmanever the other. The man with all the time in the world, or the women with manipulable future sight.

It's highly likely I'd cause one of the crystal gems to fall to corruption and I'm okay with that because at least that's interesting compared to how the show's been going so far.

>>91718566
Fuck off para

>>91718806
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Temporal_Reload

If I was immediately thrown into a battle with this power only, I'd lose. Alien rocks with superhuman powers would still murk me even with same scumming.

>>91718806
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Alicorn_Physiology?useskin=oasis
Well, fuck.

>>91726779
>an eight-foot gem amazon?
Made of LIGHT. Granted, Rose's sword is the only one which doesn't return to the user since her weapon is a shield, but it's

Oh fuck it, it's just dumb writing.

>>91718566
You think Steven and Peedee would got to a nudist beach together?