Tempting Fate

>>91673786
Fuck that, reboot the franchise from the end of ATLA Book 2 (and reanimate both of those in HD).

Whatever happened to all that stuff about /co/'s "third" avatar series. I remember seeing all the threads but I never saw an outcome if anything was made.

Is there an archive or something?

>>91673829
>implying /co/ can make anything

>>91673852
>implying /co/ can make anything that isn't an excuse to beat his meat
fixed

>>91673942
good point

>>91673812
Honestly this. Reboot Book 3, fire and LoK while fixing the major issues.

>>91673786
Stop making this thread. We already tried making Earth Avatar, it's not gonna happen again.
If you want another avatar so bad, make a spiritual successor Yooka Laylee style.

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>>91673786

The OP already has the name right there

>>91673812
>>91674026
I meant fixing Book 2's ending as well, as that's what started the downward spiral.

>>91674044
Was this Earth Avatar male or female?

>>91674190
Not against it, but whats the problem with book 2s ending? Assuming you're talking about Atla Book 2 here.

The spirits stopped that avatar shit and stopped feeding humans with bending power because it never work so they create one special Avatar 2.0 instead from scratch. They go away and 5000 year later Voltron plot starts.

>>91674223
Zuko joining Azula was deeply OOC after everything he went through and apparently a last-minute script change to break Zutara. It was also never explained why Azula needed him in the first place, or why she would make such an offer to a supposed traitor even if she thought she did. This one "twist" wreaked havoc all across Book 3, though it wasn't the only problem of course.

>>91673786
>Takes place in the late 1960's equivalent in the Avatar Universe
>There is a cold war between white and red lotus and a hot war to claim all the spirit vines for more Spirited Away themed WMDs.
>Whoever finds and reverse engineers the avatar will be at a huge advantage.

>The next avatar is a short, angsty, teenaged, farm boy, earth bender and has kept his bending abilities secret everyone, including his strict single father.
>He gets run over by a group group of hippies in a Sato-van on a road trip across the former Earth Kingdom
>In consolation for his broken ribs, the new avatar is offered a free ride to republic city which he accepts
>the group of counter culture youth and their pet sentient magnetic tape computer become the new team avatar
>they are chased across the continent by various factions and try, poorly, to keep a low profile while politics happens in the background

>>91673786
Interquel about what happened after Book 3 OR alternate timeline where the avatar world didn't become so vastly developed so quickly.

Twins are born in the next avatar cycle, one twin bends earth and water, the other fire and air.
backstory is the red lotus created a nuke or some shit. I don't fuckin know.

>>91673829
>that character that was unashamedly a thiccer, milfier korra

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>the next avatar will be a black, lesbian genderqueer asian transgender woman who fights against King Drumpf and his lackeys that just happen to look like nazis

>>91673812
>Fuck that, reboot the franchise from the end of ATLA Book 2 (and reanimate both of those in HD).

Completely agree, the only way to save the series would be to erase all the bullshit retconning

>>91673786
The only idea I have is to make it post-apocalytic (but far enough past the event to make the setting more akin to ATLA, with some few dispersed technologically advanced places in between). The apocalyptic event came from the subsequent earth kingdom born Avatar (already realized and a master of the four elements) has Vaatu reawaken within him and destroy/remove Raava from him and then making him rampage and destroy a good portion of civilization. Some many years after, the Avatar is reborn in the fire nation and through some means decides or is coerced to travel the world and help rebuild what he or she can while pursuing the dark avatar, who no one has seen for many years. That's all I got.

Pitch you an Avatar series 3? Easy. Go backwards. Don't move forwards with Korra in mind, take it all the way back.

If it's not Avatar In Space then why even bother?

>>91673829
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vvw91y144y5dzom/AAATOgALnIbA9n088qUI2QLUa?dl=0

>>91673786
I've thought about this for way too long.

>It's the Avatar 70's, aka basically as far as you can go with the timeline before the whole concept of bending becomes useless for all intents and purposes
>Regardless bending gets a slight degree of power creep in the show, because Korra's spirit dickering fucked everything up

>Avatar Korra was assassinated 14 years ago by anarchist revolutionaries, at the young age of 60
>The world has been in a state of mourning and fear, as the next Avatar is now part of the People's Earth Republic, because Korra did everything wrong, and basically everything she fought for has taken twenty steps back
>In the aftermath of a brief hot war between the United Alliance of the Fire Nation, Water States, and Air Nation against the Earth-Commies, an unstable Cold War has developed
>The age of spies and secret agents has fallen

So that's the setting.

>The PER government announces that they have the next Avatar
>The other governments of the world are freaking the fuck out
>Where will their alliances lie
>In a massive televised press conference/treaty between the nations the next Avatar is announced
>It's a young stoic studious Earthbender girl
>Think Rei from Evangelion but more human
>Under a complex set of treaties she is set to stay in Republic City for several months while peace talks to end the Cold War are in order
>While there she stays with the current Earth ambassador's daughter, a plucky young nonbender, under the watchful eye of her overseer, a confident social butterfly who happens to be the Avatar's older sister


Book 1 would feature a very decentralized plot. Early on we would meet with a local street gang led by a laidback airbending badass and his adopted younger brother, a popular street racer. It would involve the Avatar and her friends exploring this new Republic City, most importantly the Spirit District (which is very similar to a lot of Chinese urban legends mixed with folklore).

(Continued)

>>91673786
>>91678680
(Cont.)

The Antagonist
>A popular talkshow host, incredibly young at around 22, world renounced celebrity and comedian firebender
>Takes a deep interest in the Avatar, almost too deep
>Revealed early on to be part of the Neo Red Lotus, who in the Avatar 60's were a hyper competent spy ring a la COBRA, who now are much weaker and underground
>Very proud, charismatic, think David Bowie playing Patrick Batman
>The embodiment of 70's and 80's American influence, all the good and bad

His attempts to get a hold of the Avatar and other shady dealings drive much of the midseason plot, up til the HUGE TWIST that he isn't actually a firebender at all.

He's the Dark Avatar. Bear with me here. It's retarded, but bear with me.

His backstory is actually one of the more interesting parts of the show, playing a lot of dualism off the protagonist

>Orphaned at young age by Red Lotus
>Taken in by mysterious woman working for NRL, back when it's still top dog
>Works up from the bottom to become incredibly famous, but always burdened w/ knowledge
>Takes current leader of Red Lotus as father figure
>Riddled with self-doubt, his story is mostly about gradually becoming the overall villain of the plot

As Season 1 progresses, the gang learns of this, but lack the means to expose him. This comes together in the finale, where he corners nonbending friends together, forcing Airbending badass to kick this guy's inexperienced ass, but face the legal and social consequences, i.e. prison.

Meanwhile, the Avatar's older sister begins a flirtation and courtship with the DA, and eventually they go public with their relationship, which sets the media in a storm.

That's about it for Season 1, Season 2 is much more plot focused.

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>>91678962

>Book 2
>Open with the final press conference between Avatar and DA
>It's all super tense and shit
>The Avatar is struggling with her spiritual side
>She's more sensible and logical than Korra, but it's also made her more skeptical, and less receptive to spirit shit
>While struggling to meditate with her mentor, and older, stiff asshole airbender who is nowhere near as helpful as Cool Older Brother, she suddenly clicks for a brief second into her Avatar state and gets a vision of the President of the Fire Nation's daughter being shot
>The Fire Officials take this very seriously, forcing the Avatar to travel over to the Fire Nation under the guise of a series of press conferences
>Meanwhile, in Republic City...
>DA is in hot water with the higher ups for acting so recklessly
>Meanwhile, Younger Brother's dealings with the dark side of racing have put him in trouble with the Triads, which have become basically the Yakuza in their reach and influence
>Red Lotus operations are being thwarted by the Traids, who are now more active in the area because of Younger Brother
>With nowhere else to turn, DA is forced to team up with Older Brother (greasing the wheels for his early release) to get to the bottom of this shit
>While Younger Brother's life becomes threatened by all this bullshit, making Plucky Friend more and more worried
>In the Fire Nation, we meet the President's Daughter and her gang of friends, who are very much similar to the original Gaang, if not in exact makeup then in general dynamics
>The Avatar, now 16, has to keep her head straight and get her spirituality shit right with Stern Jackass Mentor to master the elements
>Apparently the President and the Triad Head go way, way back
>Solving their personal issues helps keep the President's Daughter safe, for a time
>Meanwhile in Republic City all out war is being waged, with the DA and Older Bro in the middle of everything
>In the skirmishing, Older Bro dies

(Cont.)

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>>91678680
What the fuck is this fanfiction shit

>>91674399
>Zuko joining Azula was deeply OOC
debatable, as Zuko's entire persona was indecisive up to that point.

But even still, we needed him to join Azula so we could have all those dank scenes in the Fire Nation with Zuko as prince.

>>91673786
the avatar is born as twins and can only bend two elements each,
one goes bad and the other has to save him because yin-yang shit mount is pig-panda (white with black spots) and reverse pig-pandas (black with white spots) moral is that balance is needed and neither side is perfect alone.

>>91675367
>twins
>they have to fuse to go into the avatar state

would be dank

>>91679269
But most of those scenes were awful teen angsting

>>91679382
Oh definitely.

But we needed to see Zuko get everything he always thought he wanted and then be dissatisfied with it.

>>91679184
>Settling the events in the Fire Nation carry back over to Republic City
>With this much chaos in play, Plucky's Mother runs for governor of Republic City, pledging to put a much harder stance on law enforcement
>Read: Security over Freedom
>DA comes out with his secrets to Avatar's sister
>She's in on the plan now, and madly in love
>The Red Lotus Plans are finally coming together
>However, when DA tries to get away this time, Plucky Friend isn't a retard, and forces DA to use his other bending strengths in public
>Exposing his secret to the world
>And forcing him out of Republic City

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>>91673786
An entire series of this.

>>91673786
>Earth avatar discovers he's the avatar at a young age
>Due to Korra's decision to allow the spirits to roam the earth, tons of shit has happened and the majority of people hate the avatar
>Earth Avatar kid isn't stupid, keeps it a secret
>His best friend finds out (they're a bender of a different type) they decide that they're friends so it doesn't matter what people say about the avatar
>The kid teaches the Young avatar his/her element
>Eventually, since he wants to learn all of them and fix the mess of a world, he and his friend go on a journey to find teachers for the other two

I don't have a story but I do have an antagonist.

>In preparation of seizing absolute power, a would be king goes deep into the spirit world to make unholy pacts with malevolent entities. This greatly empowers him and enables him to display terrifying powers never before seen by the world.

Basically my villain for a future Avatar series is daemon prince.

Hundred more years or whatever. World hasn't really changed much from Korra because a society like that has no reason to improve their technology if they can already fling lightning from their wrists like a Black Spiderman since childhood. So instead, the point of this show is going to be about a carefree Earthbender who knows his true destiny of being god damn avatar but has an inability to really step up and be the diplomat/warrior/religious leader that he's told by everyone he's ever known he is going to be. It's a show about accepting who you are and your limits and that your life cannot be predicted. Sure, you can be born with something that makes you different, but nobody can know how their entire life is going to pan out from birth. The world's stopped moving, he's not really needed anymore, and every major source of conflict from the world is really more or less a bunch of old traditionalists who think every generation's avatar needs to fight against their own army of nazis to properly keep the cycle moving. The world's slowed down a lot from the sudden boom of science and technology because it doesn't need to go fast. And that's not a bad thing. It's not a good thing either. It's just a part of your life and the world you happen to live in

>>91679188
Random compilation of shitty ideas that I've spent way too much time thinking about. It couldn't possibly be worse than Korra


>>91679628
Season 3 is honestly probably where the story actually starts coming together, to the point where Season 1 and 2 are better left being smushed together. (The whole show would be a 5 book affair, playing with the 3>4>5 progression)

>Book 3
>In the wake of this reveal, Republic City is basically on lockdown
>Hearing about Avatar's issues w/ spirit stuff has come a request by legendary mythic airbender and spiritualist, Kai
>Unfortunately, no one knows where he is
>And the Red Lotus are more pressing of a concern
>Plucky arranges the whole gang to go on a roadtrip across the Northern Water Tribe into the Independent Earth States in the North, just outside of the PER's reach. Lots of classic TLA style adventure
>Meanwhile the relationship between DA and Avatar sister is getting complicated, now that Avatar sister is under constant surveillance and DA is the most wanted man in the world
>The gang travels too far however, and the PER steps its foot down
>Avatar is now forbidden from leaving Republic City, and is at risk of being sent back to PER
>However, she and Plucky sneak out one last time, hearing of an undercover decomissioned Lotus base
>After nearly dying, they discover some real shady shit
>Including knowledge of Plucky's father, who actually used to be a former Alliance Spy who was killed by the RL
>And a secret plot to assassinate the Prime Minister of the Northern Water State
>This is found out, but it's a Boy Who Cried Wolf scenario, there is no plot
>Girls are sent back home

To put a long story short, the plan was a decoy, it was to destroy the Republic City UN embassy, the plan is half thwarted. Younger Bro dies, Plucky looses an arm, and Avatar is left broken. Kai shows up near the end, hearing whispers of the tragedy on the wind, taking the Avatar to train and study for 6 years. Timeskip

>>91679649
I remember a doujin like that, it was both hilarious and fucked up.

>>91679798
What was it about? Plz no ntr, i hate that shit.

>>91679775

Seasons 4/5 are so similar honestly they probably are just one long Book

>Book 4
>Timeskip years into the future
>The Avatar, no longer bound to the PER, is back in Republic city
>Plucky's still alive, and with cool new arms
>The brothers are still dead though
>Avatar is bitter, and more importantly pissed
>DA and Sis are now head of Lotus, which has rised out of the ashes to become a global terrorist organization
>The Boss ever present yet still mysterious
>President's Daughter gets kidnapped
>Are our heroes bad enough dudes to save her?

Cue the Nuclear. Basically if the first half was a riff on old school Kung Fu films this part is Metal Gear Solid.

Most of the season(s) revolves around the crew searching for the origins and trails of RL. We discover the story behind Plucky's father, who was partners in the Allied Spy forces with and eventually betrayed by the woman who would go on to raise the DA as her own son. We meet her out in the desert, a sad wreck of a woman.

Meanwhile, political tensions get hotter, and we get the feeling that this Cold War is going to end with one of the nations in flames.

We also meet some other characters (most notably Bolin, who now is an 80 year old former movie star, director, and adventurer) along the way, and there are one off stories that help flesh out the world, but the bigger focus is around the chase for RL.

We discover that the Boss is actually dead, and this is actually all his post-mortem plan to cleanse the world and start fresh from nothing. And DA and Sis are so deep into this shit that, after a bit of indecision, they decide to go through with this, taking over several flying command stations and loading them with nukes. Cue climactic showdown, DA looses hope and kill himself mid-Avatar state in a brief moment of lucidity, killing the cycle, while Avatar is left to pick up the pieces of the world.

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>>91673829
Avatar Earth AU project

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After Vaatu smashed all the past Avatars out of Korra, their spirits were left to wander and have now reincarnated. Some kind of story-line involving a ton of Avatars upseting the balance.

>>91680193
Remember when it was just supposed to be Dune?

Good times.

>>91673786
>The leg of Korra
What about it?

>>91673786
The technological progression was terrible and bad for the world, go back in the time.

Wind the clock back so far that it's almost unrecognisable, have a Romance of the Three Earth Kingdoms civil war raging for decades; have a bunch of dickhead city states made of ice propel themselves round the world raiding, warring and taking tribute; take the nationalism out of the Fire Nation and make them a fractious archipelago of princes and priests and cover the land in isolated Air Temples with wildly varying schools of thought about how to reach enlightenment.

Just run screaming into the past and away from the failures of the future.

Clearly it needs to be about Avatar Wan discovering the Avatar state for the very first time. His backstory about gradually gaining all the skills and co-existing with spirits is interesting. That way, no goddamn predecessor Avatar spirits, but a setting that's much more mystical with spirits in general and the core concept is basically how the discovery of the Avatar state changes things for the world entirely.

A spirits vs humans type thing and discussions on whether humans can be trusted to not abuse bending would probably also ensue.

>>91680513
>Avatar spirits split into 4 groups, the Fire, Water, Earth, and Air (With some variation depending on the personalities of the avatars, they go into the group their personality goes best with)
>Each group decides to start there own, new avatar lineage with there philosophy as the core
>These avatars are always born into the main element of the line (I.e. The one from the fire line is always born to fire benders, the one from the water line is always born to water benders, etc)
>Korra's, the original, is the only line that follows the original cycle
>Korra's successor has to try bring balance with 4 other, equally powerful Avatars doing there own thing
>They all can call on multiple avatars for advice, he can only ask Korra

I'd watch it.

The Legend of Korra 2.

Mostly focusing on how Korra fixed the world and her relationship with Asami.

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Spirit energy/spirits themselves are used to power a technological dystopia, and bending is acquired through stones that are imbued with these magical energies.

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>>91684294
>ever wanting more Korra

It doesn't work any longer, but before Korra I wanted to see Firebender: The Last Avatar.

The basic idea was that after Aang's death the babies who would become the Water and Earth-cycle Avatar were tracked down and killed by folks before they could become a problem, with the idea being that if they could kill the Avatars as kids it would eventually cycle round to Air again and with no Airbenders left the cycle would be broken.

So basically all of the Airbenders were gone and there was this kid who was a firebender trying to figure out a way to restore airbending to the world before the guys trying to kill him could do so.

>>91684493
But it was pretty obvious Aang was gonna have kids even in ATLA...

Takes place sometime between Wan and Raava (WHICH IS NEVER FUCKING MENTIONED) and Aang.

Basically KOTOR.

>>91673786

So, what, we're asking for fan-fiction? Okay.

>>1985-level technology. Plains, trains, and automobiles.
>>Things are pretty good, all-around.
>>The new Avatar, an earthbender called....I dunno.....Ji Yeon, thinks that there's no real need for an Avatar anymore, and never reveals herself, using her bending to be a mid-tier character in cheesy pro-wrestling shows. She lives in a tiny apartment, but if comfy.
>>Since Korra broke the cycle, she's the only past avatar Ji Yeon has access to. While Aang and especially Korra had trouble accessing their past lives, Ji does it almost by accident.
>>Ji and Korra fucking hate each other, since Korra wants Ji to avenge her murder, and Ji can't be bothered.
>>Another Avatar appears, let's call him Sung. He's using his clout for political gain. This turn of events infuriates Korra to no end. It will later be revealed that Sung's using tech to fake being a bender.
>>Ji happens to walk by a Sung rally, and Korra's ghost is so pissed she assumes direct control, putting Ji into the Avatar State and making a huge mess of everything.
>>Political groups split between those who support Ji, and those who support Sung, and war becomes more likely as gang violence breaks out and police take sides.
>>Ji wants nothing to do with any of this, and needs to figure out a way to end the violence, bring peace, and shut Korra up.
>>Along the way valuable lessons are learned, and Ji's biggest backer ends up being connected to Korra's murder

That's what I got, anyway

I ran an RPG set after Legend of Korra. The short version is it was set in a Cold War conflict (because that seems to be the popular thing to do) between the Earth Federation and the Fire Nation. The four PCs (a bender of each type) were sent on a mission to find the Avatar to end the conflict. Turns out, between Aang dying in the Avatar State and Raava being ripped out of Korra and beaten, the Avatar Spirit was really damn weak, possibly too weak to make a proper Avatar. So Raava split into four parts so she could reside in a bender of each type and regrow her connection to the elements. So the PCs were each 1/4th of the Avatar. In the end, the PCs fight an evil Void spirit that some asshole unleashed as part of a plan to Ozymandius the world into peace.

I'm not saying that is a GOOD idea for a third series, but it's what I did.

>>91684835
>Female avatar

>>>/trash/

>>91675367
>Twins

One boy, one girl?

>>91673786
I tried /co/

In an alternate continuity.

The Avatar is born as an earth bender following the adventures of Aang and an unknown water bender who didn't do anything for the world except be a peace mediator/mouth peace.

After what Aang did, Avatars must now go on journies of self-discovery and spirituality across the nations to reach their individual masters of the elements. Basically seeing the world and experiencing it on their own.

While going on his adventure to meet his masters and acquire new friends, a new state has appeared in the world filled with non-benders created by the advancement of technology on the shores of the Earth Kingdom.

The new nation is lead by a mysterious leader known only as Order who wishes to expand the influence of the non-bending kingdom and begins a war against benders claiming the Spirits had sent him to return humans to their natural state of being benderless and the Avatar has failed.

This leads Order to bumping heads with the Avatar who is suppose to uphold the balance of the world.

The most terrifying thing about the mysterious leader known as Order is that not only are they able of take away someone's bending, they are also capable of using what appears to be the 4 Elements in combat similar to the Avatar.

The big reveal: Order is an energy bender simply bending the energy in others to take away their bending, and energy bends nature to create the Element they want to use in combat making them look like the Avatar.

>1980s Republic city
>Cold War under way between Earth and Fire
>Sozins Comet is about to return
>Peace talks are failing
>Nuclear war could break out at anytime
>Only the Avatar can stop the annihilation of the world, but will he?
>The avatar has become detached from the mortal world and is spending increasing amounts of time in the spirit world
>Can our heroes brave the spirit world and convince the Avatar that humanity is worth saving

>>91673786
>60 years since the end of the Legend of Korra. The Avatar has been gone for the last 30 years
>No Avatar has been found among the earthbenders, leading most to believe Korra might still be alive or that the Avatar cycle simply ended as it was no longer needed
>Technologically the world has moved up to the point where it is a mixture of 1960s and 1940s technology
>Future Industries is now the largest multi national corporation in the world, and is the sole participant in the space race
>Meanwhile the Fire Nation and Water Tribe remains isolationist while Ba Sing Se and Republic City is waging a cold war and competing for influence over the dozen independent earth states
>The new Avatar is a teen aged orphan living in the poor district of Ba Sing Se, never having learned of his powers as he lacks the stubborn and forceful ways of most earthbenders
> Instead learns he can firebend when put in a moment of great duress

>What follows is a story of the Avatar exploring this new world, and getting engulfed in a massive international conspiracy threatening to plunge the world into conflict
>In the former earth kingdom warlords are running rampant, with dreams of building empires
>Future Industries goals in space might have less than altruistic goals
>And ultimately from a faction seeking to create the second earth empire comes someone willing to challenge the Avatar in power

>>91676371
There's no Black or White people in the Avatar universe, only Asians.

>>91687650
I like this idea a lot.

Glad there were at least a few actual replies to OPs question.

I'd watch one about a parrelel universe

>>91690104
I'd watch our dicks being parallel

I think i'd try rebooting LoK as a hero story where Korra overcomes the obstacles through guts and willpower. Running into walls and going beyond what she used to be to defeat the bad guy in the end.

>>91673786
>another time skip to around 70s/80s point
>the world is incredibly modernized now
>the Air Nation has grown large enough that they can patrol the entire world easily
>democracy spread to all four nations
>there's no real need for an Avatar anymore so they spurned the new one
>so the new Avatar is a lazy earthbender who spends most of his time just travelling and drinking
>misuses his Avatar powers for convienence and profit
>some shit goes down, only the Avatar can save the day
>the new plucky younger cast are tasked with tracking down the Avatar and convincing him to do his job
>shenanigans ensue

>>91684250
>can only ask Korra

poor kid

>>91679743
Sounds like a chance for a Koh-related villain that the fanbase has been speculating about for years.

>>91683436
>Avatar Wan discovering the Avatar state for the very first time

Should Wan even be able to use the Avatar State? He has no predecessor's powers to draw upon.

Although, that being said, I think Korra used the Avatar state plenty after killing off the old avatars.

Never made sense how she could do that.

>>91692366
It functions differently in LoK since it's just a powerup provided by Raava (or Vaatu in Unalaqs case).

>>91679724
>Avatar Korra suddenly appears while he is meditating
>he didn't even try to get in contact, she just kind of decided she should help him
>"hey, you should probably do X"
>what? why? that's stupid
>C'mon, i'm older. I know what i'm talking about blabla
>o-okay, whatever.
*he does X*
>WTF it didn't work!
>it will eventually.

>>91687650
>The Avatar has been gone for the last 30 years
>Korra, living 50 years
No. Already wrong.

>>91673812
How would you handle Zuko, anon?

My idea before LoK came along was that the antagonists were a splintered group of warrior tribes who had been ripped apart by Fire Nation and Earth Tribe military forces hundreds of years before.

The Yokuji felt that Bending was a dishonorable advantage in combat and basically became trained assassins hunting down and killing any Benders that they could, through chi-blocking and other methods.

They were known as the Yokuji Clans and had Koh the Faceless as their chosen spiritual deity, aiming to prevent the consolidation of power into Bender circles. Now they're fighting the Long War to eradicate bending completely.

I think it could be cool to talk about a post-imperial collapse in the Fire Nation, where it goes from the biggest swinging dick to some impoverished rainy little island no one gives a fuck about.

I don't know much series lore, so this might not work.

Prequel about an early avatar, from before the avatar was widely known about. This guy is an ordinary peasant from a fairly remote village. There are benders around, obviously of only one element. But he stumbles in his learning and finds he can bend another. Then later, a story from returning hunters gives him a hint as to another element.

I don't know where the story would go from there. But yeah I think that would be cool.

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Sorry folks, but there will never be another Avatar series. LoK accomplished the impressive feat of ruining the past, present and future of the Avatarverse and turned the producers away from the franchise forever.

>>91673786

Give the avatar spot to a guy who literally can't bend anything. Ever. Make it a political/war drama about this guy who is surrounded by people with the power but he himself has none. Make the earth kingdom the agressor because they need the resources, have the fire nation on the brink of extinction. This guy and 4 of his buddies from the nations have to get all their sides to stop the conflict and heal the world.

The next avatar series needs to have the premise of non benders vs benders.

They had the perfect shit going with Amon and the non-benders and would actually have some fun conflict with real viewers since they are humans, they'll choose to side with non-benders over their heroes who possess better skills and powers (jealousy) but they fucked it up.

>The biggest loss to them was losing their bending
>why is that so bad? " asked by a civilian
>from there the fire rises

I just want a scene where the Earthbending Avatar blows up on ghost Korra for ruining being the Avatar. All the history, all the importance about spirituality and balance, and she shat on all of it. Shat on tradition, shat on the past, shat on it all because she had something to prove, and in doing that, cursed the future for her arrogance.

In some ways I'd love a female character to do it too, that way nobody can use 'muh patriarchy' as a way to criticize the new bender. Highly traditional, highly spiritual, wants to be a better example in the world and be the avatar to look up to for those who follow her than her absolute fuck up of a predecessor.

>>91695143
The thing about the whole benders/non-benders thing (which already paints the non-benders as a have-not) is that the actual issues were never fixed (they can't be) or addressed. The thing about Benders is that their power is so far above non-benders that they have a right to live in fear. Any Earth Bender in the world can easily just make a whole in the ground, and suck someone in (even heroic characters do this) and close up the hole. Fire-benders are walking flame-throwers, and while you could argue that the Equalists had their shock-gloves, you can take that away from them with a pat-down. You can't do that with a bender.

It's the same with Mutants in the Marvel setting. Sorry, I will never accept them as poor and oppressed minorities. When they can read minds and change the weather then the normals have a right to be terrified of them.

This is a level of power and privilege that even the most insane college professor doesn't think actually exists in our world.

>>91678452
>https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vvw91y144y5dzom/AAATOgALnIbA9n088qUI2QLUa?dl=0

This is cool as hell! when did /co/ make all this?

Pretending Korra never existed as well as the Wan backstory, a new Avatar is born into an era of incredible, overwhelming peace, and as the avatar is supposed to be the personification of balance the avatar is somehow inspired to stir unrest and conflict in an age of too much good.

Sounds kinda edgy though

>>91696898
Do people actually not like the Wan backstory? What was the issue with it, exactly?

>>91696908
It completely demystified and added background to the origins of the Avatar in the worst way possible.

>>91696930
Well sure, it de-mystified it, but if you're dealing with the spirits and going right back I dunno how you could have avoided it.

I'm not sure what people wanted from an Avatar backstory.

>>91696976
How about nothing?

>>91696976
They didn't want an Avatar backstory. Being a mystical, timeless personification of elemental balance and order on the planet was enough.

>>91696898
Not how it works, peace and harmony between the people of the world is balance, what you are suggesting is the flawed ideology of the Red Lotus

>>91697001
>They didn't want an Avatar backstory
Who are "they"?

The Avatar Wan episodes are still some of the most highly rated episodes in the series on IMDB

>>91696987
>>91697001
Well now they gotta suck it up and work with it. Ignore it and not delve into that era, fine. But if your proposal means contradicting shit that's happened then I disagree.

As unfortunate as it is, Korra happened. The Avatar Cycle was broken and now there's consequences to that.

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>>91697050
>On IMDB

>>91692657
That's presuming Korra would die immediately after vanishing from the public eye, remember that it was stated that the new Avatar would be in his teens.

Also both Korra and Aang will have not lived too long as in a way to prevent the world from realistically not move too slowly ahead technologically. But if there was a fourth Avatar it probably wouldn't be a problem to make it a 100 years later and have it in a sort of cyberpunk like setting.

>>91684538
Not the guy you replied to but they could always have a plot where Aang winds up dying young for whatever reason or the organisation trying to end the Avatar cycle murdered his children/grandchildren.

>>91696908

I personally like the Avatar Wan episodes. I don't take the back story too literally, and I realize that's probably headcanon.

>>91696976
>>91697001
>>91697059

The way I see it is that the Avatar Wan episodes can be seen as a myth in and of themselves. Who is to say that Korra's memories of those experiences aren't tainted?

It's just a larger-than-life origin story like real-life accounts of individuals like Hercules or the Monkey King.

Everything about Avatar Wan should be taken with a grain of salt because its 10,000 years separated from the events of Korra and Korra's perspective of events (even if they're somehow perfectly preserved by Raava) is simply one view of how things really went down in the beginning.

I imagine the writers intended for it to be the definitive explanation of the Avatar origin, but I much prefer to interpret the story as a myth-come-to-life. Look at the humans living in the Spirit Wilds as early man's explanation of unnatural phenomena IRL.

>>91695533
>This is a level of power and privilege that even the most insane college professor doesn't think actually exists in our world.
You would be fucking astonished at some of the professors that exist.

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>>91697068
Not an argument

>>91697107
Dude, Korra casually chats it up with Rava after being dipped in that water and having the flashback, there really is no doubt to Wan being completely canon. As much as I'd love not for it to be, it undeniably is the way it is.

>>91697136
It wasn't an argument, it was condescending laughter. Saying IMDB gave it a good rating isn't an argument either.

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>>91673786
those where fun treads.

>>91697088
The guy he replied to, and yeah that's actually exactly what I'd intended. That Aang be killed within a few years of the end of A;TLA and before he managed to father any new Airbenders, and then just murder the new Avatars as soon as they are discovered via their toy ceremony or whatever.

The idea was that this Firebender, the last Avatar before the cycle ends unless he can get some new Airbenders breeding, is basically chasing lost knowledge to educate himself and others in the ways of Airbending. Maybe track down Appa and learn the ways of airbending from a herd of flying bison again.

I dunno, it was kind of a loose concept, I just toyed with it a bit.

>>91697169
Would at least set the path for a "smaller" story. Like the cast, rather than Kings and Generals, is a rogue, a librarian, a treasure hunter, etc.

>Hi, I'm the Av-!
>*librarian hushes him*
>I'm the Avatar. Any books on the Avatar learning Air Bending?

>>91697107
>but I much prefer to interpret the story as a myth-come-to-life.

You can do that if you'd like, but you'd be wrong and Bryke would still be hacks.

>>91697204
>Indiavatar Jones and The Flying Bison

I'd watch it.

>>91697159
Yes it is. It's a way for viewers to show their opinion, one of the few along with Rotten Tomatoe. Or are you one of those assholes on twitter who think user reviews on Metacritic are bullshit because they don't give Mass Effect Andromeda 10/10?

>>91697204
>>91697257
That was basically it. Avatar Jones. It did have some larger context and support however, what with Aang dying young and Zuko being the Fire Lord. I was undecided but I think it was Iroh being visited by spirits who realised no airbenders = no reborn avatar, so the quest has backing from the Fire Nation and presumably Bumi's Earth Kingdom as well.

It would have been somewhat a smaller scale of rambunctious adventures looking for old Air Temples and the like, with a side of political tension because it was clear that the group intent on wiping out the Avatar had infiltrated deep into high level government positions worldwide to be able to find the newborn Avatars so quickly.

So it probably would have escalated in books 3 or 4 or something.

>>91697260
>Using Twitter
>Thinking Andromeda is good
Anon you have an incredibly bad image of me, wow. I just don't think "Well these guys think its good" is a valid argument. I only know my opinion. The story of Wan killed the esoteric allure of the Avatar as well as introduce incredibly dumb retconny concepts like the two spirits of good and evil and making the realm of spirits as a whole a big Miyazaki movie clone. The spirituality and mysticism of the Avatar just died horribly thanks to Season 2.

>>91696908
In and of themselves the episodes aren't bad, it's the implications about the Avatar, bending and spirits that come with it that sucks.

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>>91673786
>>91673812
Reboot with the characters swapped

>>91697365
>tfw earth benders didn't learn it from badgermoles apparently

>>91697386
good shit senpai
>tfw no korra on korra sistership

>>91697391
I'm more angry about the spirit being aliens invading the material world.

>>91697386
Those were some nice threads. Pretty comfy too desu.

>>91697386
My only question is how is Korra going to learn Airbending if all the airbenders are dead? I assume she's still water tribe and still freezes herself in an iceberg given the context here.

Would be cool to see though.

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>>91697386
Posting the rest.

>>91697564
Owl Library

>>91697596
What, you think she wouldn't piss the Owl off even more than actually happened? There's almost nothing in terms of spirit education for her, she'd be even worse than she was in LoK.

>>91697640
>you think she wouldn't piss the Owl off even more than actually happened?
there would be a reason for the owl to get pissy assuming it's a cosmic being it probably has some sort of low level deity powers including sensing intentions and potential

a brash impulsive warrior korra is much more likely to become a monster even if she is the avatar relative to the pacifist aang

>>91673786
Earth avatar in a businessmans world. Cubes and cubicles. AI trying to take over the world with spirits help.

stuff like that, steampunked

>>91697564
There were some interesting ideas in some of the later discussions. IIRC the idea most people seemed to embrace was the idea of Zuko being his teacher. The idea being that Iroh would have tried to teach Zuko some of the basic forms and philosophy of airbending in training him to fight the Avatar.

Eventually they'd hit a wall (just like with the firebending training in Aang's story) and Korra's Field Trip With Zuko would involve visiting the last surviving air temple to search for scrolls with more forms and techniques, the main plot being Zuko learning to let go of the shame he feels over what his people did to the Air Nomads, and Korra learning to forgive herself for failing to save her tribe.

>>91697713
Hmm, sounds kind of interesting. Definitely an unusual way to learn it, I doubt she'd be particularly good at it but then Aang was bad with fire so hey.

>>91698068
personality wise korra should be perfect with fire and if she discovered the avatar fact when she was a baby just like in LoK then her and Zuko's battles would be one sided as fuck.

>>91673786
>Set roughly 150 years after the end of TLOK
>The world is in the shitter, the spirit wilds overran almost every inch of land, the little resources that remained are split between two superpowers that wage an all-out war of total annihilation for their survival
>The Earth Avatar after Korra was a dick, he did nothing to save the world, and then blamed Korra for everything
>He is ded now btw, and the new avatar is missing
>The war wages on with ruthless vigor despite both sides being on the verge of exhaustion
>Bending and technology were merged to create extremely powerful weapons that make the conflict only even more brutal
>Metalbending-powered liquid-metal hovertanks dominate the battlefield, decimating grunts or engaging in high-speed duels with each other... or getting blasted into pieces by lightningbenders who use thermo-optic camouflage suits to sneak around undetectable
>To break the stalemate, one side develops terrifying spirit-WMDs while the other starts creating superhumans with spirit-shenanigans
>The world is beyond salvation, and amidst the horrors of war, a veteran tank ace is called back to service and takes over a crew of young recruits - unbeknownst to him, one of his comrades is much more than she looks like... and his lightningbender nemesis who killed his previous crew s also out there, hungering for his blood
>Cue in an apocalyptic struggle amidst crazy "techbending" gadgets and a fight for the very survival for all mankind

>>91698103
I was referring to it being a bad way for her to learn Airbending and that she'd presumably not be great at it.

I'm gathering from the whole big mission that she presumably only knows Waterbending at the start so they can go questing for the other bending arts.

Still, seeing the Lion Turtle grant her Energybending and then her deciding not to use it because it's too risky and just murdering the fuck out of Ozai would be cool.

>>91698155
I dunno, I feel like advanced tech and bending just doesn't go all that well together.

Unless your nefarious plot is to use genetic manipulation and spirit-DNA splicing or some shit to give literally everybody bending arts, in which case it'd be interesting to see the Avatar trying to justify why giving everyone equal abilities is a bad thing.

>>91698210
>I dunno, I feel like advanced tech and bending just doesn't go all that well together.
this desu
there's no reason for tech to advance, besides maybe transportation, when you have bending.

>>91674399
>Zuko joining Azula was deeply OOC after everything he went through and apparently a last-minute script change to break Zutara.
I don't believe any of that.

>>91698160
I guess there also an issue of how to get Airbenders back in the future. Afterall it's hard to rely on Spirit magic or whatever happened in LoK as opposed to Aang starting to repopulate.

>>91698264
Well, there's plenty of reasons, to be fair. Communication and information storage for one. Usage of tech by non-benders for another.

>>91698210

Bending is a cheap, clean, and unlimited power source that is running on metaphysics. That's like the Philosopher's Stone for 99% of modern technology. The possibilities are literally limitless with these two.

For example, the afromentioned metalbender tank: it is in fact just a big slab of liquid-metal as drive and weapons are readily provided by its metalbender crew; it hovers above the ground (metalbending), has superior speed and agility (metalbending), fires mind-controlled munitions produced on-demand from its body (metalbneding), and constantly regenerates damage or simply shapeshifts to avoid harm (metalbending). It is a fucking beast of a weapon system, leagues above all IRL modern MBTs in every respect.

>>91698349
It's also entirely reliant on metalbender operators, and hunks of metal are not as effective as explosive rounds unless they are moving at extremely high velocities.

In any case, I wasn't referring to war machines because metalbending has clear applications there, but rather technology as a whole. It just doesn't mesh too well with the spiritual aspect that is so important and clearly an actual thing to take into account in the Avatarverse. You could probably do some very interesting stuff with that setting, but not as a basic kids-to-teens-targeted cartoon. You'd want to go into a multi-book fantasy novel type deal to really analyse these issues in any real depth.

>>91697349
Sure, just because the public finds something good doesn't mean you or I have to

For example most people think The Force Awakens is good, but I think it is shit

But I just argued against the notion that "they" dislike the Wan episodes, as most people seem to enjoy them

>>91673786
-Takes place in a far off dystopian future of Republic City which has become more like a Mega City in 2000 AD and the Avatar has not appeared for an untold number of decades since the death of the last one (not Korra)

-People begin to doubt the power of the Avatar and the White Lotus once again dies off

-A genetics corporation has risen to power and controls most of everything

-They have found a way to allow people to gain the power to bend and be able to wield more than one

-Just as this new marvel in science happens so does a new crisis form in bizarre mutants causing havoc in the parts of the city that aren't as well off as the richer parts

-A task force is created from a team of four benders who use the various elements and act a surrogate Avatar to deal with this new crisis

-They fight against savage mutants and underground mob bosses until the obvious reveal that the genetics corporation are the big bad guy

-Turns out they kidnapped the Avatar before they could be trained and have used their powers to help fuel their science in splicing bending powers

-They had been developing super soldiers to eventually take over and the mutants have been a bi product of that

-They save the Avatar who is far to weak of a state to do anything

-They have to fight a NeoAvartar who turns on it's creators and poses an even greater threat as they see themselves as a god to remake the world in their image

-The Avatar does some crazy Avatar spiritual self-destruction thing to destroy the NeoAvatar and do a global reset on the bending powers, removing everything done by the genetics corporation, curing people afflicted by the mutations from over splicing. Once again bringing balance back to the world

-A newly restored faith in the Avatar returns and the group of benders become the new White Lotus and ends with them going to find the next reincarnation of the Avatar

>>91698476
gay

>>91698447

Meh, I think spirituality only makes your bending better (not necessarily stronger tho).

I was thinking about the Veteran Pilot becoming spiritual during his retirement, becoming a hermit after losing his crew, then returning as some sort of embittered warrior-monk. His spirituality gives him a clean edge in terms of metalbending (he is OP as fuck), and it is put in contrast with his lightningbender nemesis who is powerful, but lacks control because of his materialistic worldview.

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>Alternate timeline
>Korra fails to defeat Amo
>Amon gains the support of the majority of the nonbending population.
>Overthrows the government
>Korra spends the rest of her life fucked up from Amon, fighting with small resistances made up of benders and nonbenders.
>Korra is eventually killed in the avatar state
>Years past and bending is a thing of the past
>Bending is taught as an evil practice
>Hardly any benders left.
>The world is in it's equivalent of the 1980's. Big dense cities, lots of verticality. Borderline cyberpunk maybe?
>introduce some mythical mumbo jumbo
>Earth bending abilities suddenly awaken in random person.
>Have to deal with developing Avatar powers while in a world that has an almost religious hate of bending.
>Avatar develops fighting styles by themselves
>Learns metal bending and emulates the police force of republic city after a while, swinging around the large city
>Starts off dealing with local crime as a vigilante but end goal becomes opening the spirit portals which brings bending back to the world.


I don't know. It's pretty stupid. The most convoluted part would be explaining how Amon could have won and bending being mostly eradicated.

>>91698599
>Make it Capeshit

LoK fucked us over with its Great Leap Forward in the 20's. It was purposeless, damaging and gave the world building nowhere to go.

>>91673786
The bending singularity happens

>>91698879
Wait people hated the 1920's setting?
Bitch what

>>91698921
different anon, I personally didn't like it

>>91673786
New Avatar is a robot. Huge time skip otherwise the only previous life is Korra.

>>91698982
Eh whatever. I understand why people didn't like Korra but I don't think it was as bad as they say it was. Considering how much Nick treated the show like shit I think they did pretty well.

>>91698921
There's nothing wrong with 1920s settings.

There is when 70 years ago it looked like the 1200s.

>>91699060
Don't want to argue over it but I'm pretty sure it was more like 1700's-1800's.

>>91698921
I found it completely unnecessary and very off-putting. I feel it eroded the wondrous and mystical nature of the Avatar setting by bringing it closer to our own and that it made the world smaller. I do understand that many people enjoyed seeing where the setting would go with such advancement and it's certainly an interesting thought exercise.

I however felt it was damaging to the tone and themes of Avatar and that too much was sacrificed on the alter of technological advancement.

>>91699052
>Eh whatever.
drink bleach you shit eating faggot

How about a series about the lives of the previous avatars

Cause seeing the first avatar in Korra was the best part about that series.

>>91699120
wew buddy

>>91699141
>Cause seeing the first avatar in Korra was the best part about that series.
I can't comprehend this attitude, how can you enjoy something that damages the mythology so much?

>>91697386
>Reboot with the characters swapped
>Korra dies in 5 minutes by trying to stop an army or some other stupid shit instead of running.

>>91697084
Realistically speaking, Korra should already be dead. Expecting that she will live another 5 years in that line of work is too much.

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this thread is fucking retarded

>>91699413
>dies
gets trapped in an iceburg because avatar state and overwhelmed

>>91699604
WOW A REAL SAMBOY ONA WAMBO

>>91699604
Thanks for contributing, here's your (You).

>>91673786
>>91673786
>Set some time in the future of the world
>Korra's life after the end of the show was such a litany of fuck ups, relationship drama, and stupidity that the Avatar name is years after her death still tarnished and viewed as a worrying fact of life that she will one day influence the new Avatar.
>The new avatar is the Earth Nation equivalent of an Appalachian good old boy. Never found by the Lotus Society, he's actually brought to civilization by a boxing promoter who happens to stumble upon his family's carnival where he beats the shit out people in boxing or wrestling matches
>First season has the two of them be slowly dragged into a world changing event when a return to the old days political movement tries to crack down on the sport in favor of more traditional bending activities. This devolves into a bending supremacist conspiracy which due to the Avatar's conscience not letting his stand aside leads to them tangling with the organization and getting involved with White Lotus operatives in the area. Ends with the boy going full Avatar state on live television and being basically outed as Kora's successor
>Second season largely deals with the aftermath of that. The boy is taken in largely at his own and his manager's protest and the Lotus tries to figure out what the fuck they're going to do because the last avatar was Korra and everyone remembers how that turned out. The new one is well meaning but has shades of her temperament being a nice boy but a simple minded one who thinks a real man solves his problems with his fists.Meanwhile one of Korra's various fuck ups rears it's ugly head as an organization that was formed around killing her goes after the new guy.
>Season culminates in the boy managing to stop a good portion of the organization, not by beating the shit out of them but by being a scared out of his gourd kid who is nonetheless unwilling to take a single step back in the face of danger to others.

>>91700318
>Season ends with the boy talking down the bad guy by admitting he's just this stupid thug who's trying to do the right thing and how he's utterly terrfied of what he might do because his power so far exceeds his age and knowledge. There's crying and the bad guy realizes how much he's fucked up because of what is basically the sins of the father and turns himself in.
>Third season is the first to be about wholly what being the avatar means. The boy is sent to deal with rising tensions between what is shaping up to be an air nation and fire nation with the Earth meddling as well.
>There's a lot of issues but it basically sums down as being about something as, in his mind at least, stupid as what appears to be the air benders wanting what they see as the land they deserve from the fire nation.
>To give it a little bit of action there's a subplot about how benders are becoming more and more tribablistic and there are increasingly more and more violent acts of violence between the different styles with the goverment actively trying to take advantage of the situation to further their various agendas.
>Season ends on a question more than an answer. With help, mostly in the form of advice from both his manager, the bad guy of the last season who is doing his best to make up for his sins in prison and the parts of the white lotus he sees value in, the Avatar lays down the law, shutting down the Earth Nations machinations, giving the Airbenders land in what was historically their home but with severe restrictions because of how they tried to use the situation to their advantage. This is probably an idiotic solution but all of five minutes of thought has been put into it so pretend it's actually a good solution until further thinking can be put into it.
>His story ends with him confidently fucking off to another part of the world that needs him, still having the accent, still being a bit of a meathead but now entirely the avatar.

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>>91699116
It was no more "damaging" than all of the technology we see the Fire Nation have(freezers, jet skis, cranes, etc) or the rate at which new technologies were developed (airships, submarines, the Earth Kingdom tanks and trucks).

>>91700507
I never minded when we still saw bending at the heart of some new contraption, otherwise yes some of those things did bother me however they were not wholly transformative in the way that Korra's dramatic shift was.

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>>91699060
What!?

>>91700507
>>91700861
Not that guy, but most fantasy settings stay "stuck" in time for a reason. Of course over the course of the series technology would make a huge jump because of the implications of having bending on top of the scientific method. But even this seems dumb the second you try to apply logic to it.

Avatar Wan lived thousands of years before Korra/Aang and for some reason his technology level resembled early medieval China at most. The sad part is that unless they make a prequel, a continuation of the Avatar universe will almost HAVE to at least be cold-war or later, which is very sad when you consider how lazy Bryke are in borrowing real life counterparts to their events in-universe, so expect a not-America and not-Russia if this sequel ever happens.

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>>91700098
yea the thread is looking real lively

>>91673786
Alright, I'll throw one out for you
Going with the theme of each protag of the Avatar series being older than the last to match the advancing age of the fandom
>new Avatar is in early 20's
>already mastered the basics of all 4 elements
>is at least baseline competent at the level that can be expected of an Avatar at his age
>not necessarily ridiculously OP
>further mastery can be a subplot but is not necessarily vital to the overarching story
>is actually pretty balanced between the bending and spiritual aspects of being the Avatar
Personality wise, whereas Aang didn't wanna really be Avatar and (initially) ran away from the responsibilities, and Korra's entire self-identity hinged entirely on her being Avatar, protag sees it as a job, just something that he has to do, doesn't run from it, but knowing that it's something he's gonna have to do for the rest of his life makes the duties of being an Avatar seem almost mundane for him, which can also be a character development point: finding his passion for being the Avatar- maybe one of the people that would join team Avatar during the series, could be an avatar fanboy/fangirl that has this super idealized vision of what they think the avatar should be like, and is initially disillusioned with the protag and how he actually is; can maybe act as a conscious of sorts- motivate him/pester him on how an Avatar 'should' be

(cont.)

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>>91701001
fuck off you salty bitch

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>>91696898
This would be an interesting concept to address, but you need a good incentive for a "good guy" to incite chaos. The only possible reason that comes to mind is to create challenges for humanity so they evolve/adapt before an external threat or upcoming war comes.

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>>91701082
It looks better without (turn)

Fuck all this, give me 1960s surfer plot. Just rip the story for from Eureka 7

>>91701071
(cont.)

The long and short of the story would be that the new Avatar is basically still dealing with the fallout of Korra leaving both portals open and whatever other sort of shenanigans may have transpired throughout the course of her career as Avatar
After however many years it's been since Korra left them open, the spirit portals are suddenly all wonkey, which would be the first source of conflict this Avatar would have to deal with in the series
Don't really have much else, the only real story arc I can think of that'd actually be >good would be that since Korra basically reset the Avatar lineage, she's the only Avatar spirit the new Avatar can contact, and that'd be a main point for the current Avatar, as they straight up just don't get along, and so he takes it upon himself to travel the spirit realm to see if he can't find a way to restore access to the lives of the previous Avatars
Could make for some interesting character development
>Spirit Korra: why are you wasting your time searching? you don't think I already tried to find a way to fix this while I was Avatar?
>Protag: Maybe you didn't try hard enough, or maybe you just didn't search in the right places

Could also be played up for comedic value like Straight man/funny man buddy cop movies, with the current Avatar as the straight man, and Korra as the comedy relief
>protag is getting knocked around by baddies
>Korra: what the heck are you doing? you're the avatar!
>protag: quit nagging me
etc. etc.

>>91701210
(cont.)(cont.)
Actually, I just thought of one other thing
Maybe a badguy reveal for another book, but I don't really know where I'd go with it form there:
>cut to Wan Shi Tong in his library
>senses unwelcome presence
>goes to investigate
>hooded figure casually reading some book
>Wan Shi Tong tells figure to get lost or die
>figure asks him some weird question
>this prompts Wan Shi Tong to attack
>is suddenly surrounded by spirit bending aura, but it looks 'evil'
>is evaporated into nothingness
>figure basically has "absorbed" him
Maybe make that a thing for another book, or the reason why the spirit portals are acting up- some guy is using spirit bending to absorb powerful spirits to make himself stronger
Maybe current avatar is forced to work with Koh the face stealer as part of an "enemy of my enemy is my friend" arc, only to eventually be betrayed in some way, resulting in a bad-ass Avatar/Spirit fight where the avatar dons like a mask or something to hide his face while fighting him to prevent having his face stolen.
Possibly this eventually gives him a lead on how he could potentially restore access to the lives of previous Avatars that Korra didn't find because why on earth would she talk to somebody as reprehensible as Koh unless she absolutely had to?

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>>91701001
>but most fantasy settings stay "stuck" in time for a reason.
Yes, but ATLA clearly demonstrated that this wasn't the case for the world of avatar. We see new technologies get developed and even new bending abilities are discovered/rediscovered.

>Of course over the course of the series technology would make a huge jump because of the implications of having bending on top of the scientific method. But even this seems dumb the second you try to apply logic to it.
How?

>Avatar Wan lived thousands of years before Korra/Aang and for some reason his technology level resembled early medieval China at most.
They were stuck living on the backs of giant turtles because of the dangers of the spirit wilds. Of course their tech is gonna be low level. Once they were free to roam the world and settle new places and war amongst each other, the tech progressed.

>The sad part is that unless they make a prequel, a continuation of the Avatar universe will almost HAVE to at least be cold-war or later,
Fuck off, that'd be cool. I totally understand wanting more stories in the past but stories in the future would be just as cool. It would be boring as fuck in nothing ever advanced in the world of avatar.

>>91701431
The advancement seen in ATLA and introduced in Korra is part of what makes the world of Avatar actually feel like a living setting rather than just a backdrop to watch cool martial arts.

>>91701480
Honestly, once you reach 1970s or more tech levels then Bending just becomes similar to most modern capeshit.

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>>91701431
>Yes, but ATLA clearly demonstrated that this wasn't the case for the world of avatar. We see new technologies get developed and even new bending abilities are discovered/rediscovered.
From this point forward I hope you realize that the core of our arguing will always fall back to "bad writing", example:

>Once they were free to roam the world and settle new places and war amongst each other, the tech progressed.
This is precisely my point, Wan fixed the whole turtle and spirit portal fiasco within his lifetime, and yet for 10,000 years the setting barely advanced from the bronze age to the early 20th century, why did this happen so slowly in a world as dynamic as ours and also having access to controlling the elements?

>Fuck off, that'd be cool.
I like the idea of "modern challenges". The problem comes when it all devolves into political conflict (which is the source of most conflict in modern civilization) and the writers are very bad at making villains without transforming them into mustache-twirling assholes. Amon was convincing until his backstory was revealed. Unalaq was mostly terrible but he get's a pass because we understand the series was only supposed to be one season and they were getting ready for 3 and 4. Zaheer was almost relatable until he started laughing maniacally and got a sock in the mouth, and Kuvira was basically great for the world until they had to shove "muh hitler" to make her the villain.

If the writers want a static world, that's fine. If they want an evolving one, that's fine too. But they either have to make up their mind, or alternatively, we have to realize there's not much thought put into it and the focus is people punching each other with magic kung-fu.

>>91701480
>rather than just a backdrop to watch cool martial arts.
there's no need for "hey look at us we're so special and real out technology expands at an incredibly rapid rate" when you have elemental martial arts
when you have elemental

>>91673812

Lolno.

>>91695533
i have an interesting idea what is the situation you describe created a very libertarian society where everyone valued personal responsibility and the ability to defend yourself above all else

in this society benders and non-benders would not think it's okay to randomly attack people but they were look down upon people who could not defend themselves

a society like this is a great possibility space for interesting conflicts

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>>91701809
>This is precisely my point, Wan fixed the whole turtle and spirit portal fiasco within his lifetime, and yet for 10,000 years the setting barely advanced from the bronze age to the early 20th century, why did this happen so slowly in a world as dynamic as ours and also having access to controlling the elements?
Multiple destructive wars for a while in the early history, and a relative lack of need for innovation for most of the societies after the fact. If there's no incentive to advance then things generally won't advance.

The Fire Nation was the first society to have an incentive, and that was to be able to conquer the whole world.

>I like the idea of "modern challenges". The problem comes when it all devolves into political conflict (which is the source of most conflict in modern civilization)
Maybe for you. I liked the political aspect.

>and the writers are very bad at making villains without transforming them into mustache-twirling assholes.
The only villain that was a mustache-twirler was Unalaq.

Amon never turned into one. Zaheer was a raving lunatic who wanted anarchy. Kuvira from day one gave off the Hitler vibes she still had up until Korra talked her down.

>If the writers want a static world, that's fine. If they want an evolving one, that's fine too. But they either have to make up their mind
They did make up their mind, you're the one implying that they didn't. They've always wanted and portrayed a progressing world.

>>91701480
Some advancement maybe, but even LoK took it too far in the end. I seriously don't want to see any space avatar or the like and with giant mechs i fear we're not far off.

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its the far future, korra lives a few hundred years like kiyoshi. new avatar is an earthbender light skinned race mixed male. technology is now semi-cyberpunk. or at lest mid 60s-80s retro futurism.

MC mixes metalbending with his other elements to tinker with gadgets and inventions.

>>91702829
>buried in a cave for 3 days with a boulder covering the entrance
>not an earth bender
dropped, this shows writer is a fucking hack

>>91702876
>implying jesus isnt the avartar

>>91702941
is superman the avatar too? you can't just explain bullshit writting by making everyone the avatar

>>91703076
anon. jesus is the son of god. the is the only avatar. he died for your sins. superman is a fgt.

>>91674577
Was thinking the same thing. Except:
>workers uprising in fire nation making it socialist
>water tribles unite under a single nation and monarch
>earth nation, now a democracy, is now playing a cold war game with both nations
>air nomads are threatened again by global war

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>>91702454
>Multiple destructive wars for a while in the early history, and a relative lack of need for innovation
The biggest catalyst for technology has always been war. I would even argue this was more reason for them to advance quicker. They just had to say "Wan lived 1000-1500 years ago" instead and it would all make more sense.

>The villains
I don't want to delve too much into this because it would just make us lose focus. I can grant you that Zaheer's logic was flawed from day 1 and Amon was not exaggerated albeit very badly paced. But at least Kuvira had to be as strict and controlling as she was because that's what you need to appease a country the size of China full of crime and refugees. Only when they started hinting at rehabilitation being straight up concentration camps and the whole "non-earth benders can fuck off" thing is where it became too obvious they wanted the audience to hate her.

>They did make up their mind, you're the one implying that they didn't. They've always wanted and portrayed a progressing world.
If we don't agree about them advancing "enough" from Wan's time to Aang's, we would never agree on this point either, then. If you want to derive anything from this drivel is that very few details here and there could have made this feel much more cohesive and intuitive; these retcons and developments make the whole timeline convoluted and hard to work with, which is (in my opinion) the reason why Bryke insists on not visiting the world for a few years despite actually having a hand in the comics.

>>91673786
The Avatar is a cocky firebender who ends up becoming the antagonist by the end of the series
And it takes place in modern times

>>91703356
would not watch

>>91673786
I was thinking that the plot could revolve around discovering a new continent with its own four nations and benders. They never had their own Avatar because their bending abilities come from specific patron spirits. There are also much less benders. The story could be that the new Avatar has popped up on this continent and someone from republic city has been dispatched to retrieve him.
Also due to having less benders, this new continent has developed firearms, and by the time of the show they are up to bolt-action rifles. I don't want the tech to get too much further than early 19th century though.

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>>91674203
Male

It was pretty neat, some of the ideas. Issue was main character. Aanf was passive, Korea aggressive. Its harder to do an in between when two extremes have been taken. Plus attention whores, some shit tranny who bitches at everyone. Eventually it just stopped. Got some great art from it though.

I still wanna /ss/ with Poi's ass

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>>91696832
Like two or three years ago it feels like. Threads went on for more months until the kind of leader just stopped showing up to the chat and people dispersed.

>>91684294
This; also Spirit Magic Lesbian Babies for Korra and Asami. Plus Sokka's Story.

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>>91703653

>>91684835
>Korra broke the cycle
That is a goddamned lie.

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>>91703707
First and best designs for Kimiko and Bayar

>>91703299
>The biggest catalyst for technology has always been war.
It CAN be, but it isn't always. War can have the opposite effect as well.

>I would even argue this was more reason for them to advance quicker.
Not really. Their wars would be even more destructive than ours because of bending. It would hamper progress because their wars would mainly be fought between benders and relatively primitive stuff.

>They just had to say "Wan lived 1000-1500 years ago" instead and it would all make more sense.
Except for the part where it makes the Avatar a very recent thing

>Kuvira
But again, this doesn't make her a mustache-twirler, it just makes her a Hitler analog

>>91703299
>If you want to derive anything from this drivel is that very few details here and there could have made this feel much more cohesive and intuitive;
I don't see how

>these retcons and developments make the whole timeline convoluted and hard to work with,
I disagree, the world and timeline are easy and simple to understand.

>which is (in my opinion) the reason why Bryke insists on not visiting the world for a few years despite actually having a hand in the comics.
They're just a little burned out dude

>>91702701
I have to agree. The giant fucking mecha was an abomination and completely unnecessary. In fact, take out ALL of the mechas and the entire Korra series becomes infinitely better, IMO.

>>91695143
>The next avatar series needs to have the premise of non benders vs benders.

No, that's stupid.

>>91697391
>every ATLA myth has to be true or I'll cry

>>91697420
What if it was the Material World encroaching on the Spirit Realm?

>>91697391
They did, the lion turtles only gave people the power to wield elements. The animals/moon & ocean still taught people the martial art

>>91696908
Wan himself and the story isn't bad but retconning the Avatar state's power to come from a big blue kite and not thousands of years of passed down bending knowledge is unforgivable.

>>91703924
>What if it was the Material World encroaching on the Spirit Realm?
Could be interesting i guess, but that wasn't the case according to the spirits and Vaatu. Vaatu states that he broke the barrier between the worlds and that the world were sperate before that.

>>91698447
>hunks of metal are not as effective as explosive rounds
What if the metalbenders cause the hunks of metal to spray in all directions upon impact? Like a bomb, but the effect is wires that penetrate everything in a radius?

>>91673786
Something sci-fi. With space ships. Itd be like, I dunno, Star Trek, but with a series arching plotline.

>>91673786
>(Part 1)
Sometime in the future, maybe a generation or two after Korra, some Big Bad finally makes good on that whole "kill the Avatar in the Avatar state" and the world is, for the first time in thousands of years, without an Avatar. It's now been 2 decades since that event and Big Bad is firmly in power. Now, because this is the future and technology has advanced, and also because this is a kid's show, ordinary people can now use Great Equalizers as weapons, which very crudely simulate bending through martial arts and make it so we can still have cool fight scenes and don't have to put guns in the show. Think the natural progression of the shock glove. This not only brings nonbenders closer to equal footing with natural-born benders, but allows anyone from any nation with or without bending talent to manipulate multiple elements like a knockoff version of the Avatar. That's all fine and dandy, but the Avatar was more than just a person who could bend all the elements. It's a force of balance that the world is in desperate need of. (cont.)

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>>91673786
>Korra has died at the age of 60 due to left over mercury poisoning really taking its toll on her body as she got older.
>18 years have passed and a nation has been built in the spiritual realm. But have fallen into civil wars for the past 2 years of their existence due too one half of the country wanting to have a republic like government and the other side wanting a Imperial type of government like the Old Fire nation.
>Republic city steps in and sends troops to the spirit realm to support Republic sympathizers.
>Setting is a vietnam era type of thing
>A young 18 year old boy gets drafted and heads off to spirit vietnam.
>During his patrol, they get ambushed by Imperial forces.
>In the fighting, he lunges to launch a piece of earth but ends up launching a blast of fire from his hands.

I'll write more if anyone is interested

>>91699060
>>91699114

They didn't have steam engines, airships, submarines, and jet-skis in the 1200s.

>>91704076
>(Part 2)
Enter our Main Character, who actually isn't a bender. He/she/whatever could be from any nation, but I like the idea of him being a swamptriber or a sandperson or from any other offshoots of the main nations. MC is a young mechanic who works for the Big Bad Empire in exchange for the safety of his family/village/whatever. Through shenanigans, he ends up a fugitive of the Empire and ends up as the in-house mechanic for a resistance group. He also gets field work since no one knows how to work his fantastically crazy Great Equalizer mods like he does. Think Ratchet and Clank if the weapons were powered by kung fu.

Over the course of the series MC goes from bottom-rung rookie in the resistance to leader of the whole shebang. Their ultimate goal is to take down the Big Bad, yes, but they also have a more important, more long-term goal: "find Raava", which at some point midway through becomes "find the Avatar" after it's discovered she is alive and has bonded to a new host. They assume it'll be a firebender since the last Avatar was an earthbender, but because the nations are so mixed up now, there's no telling where the Avatar might be. Not even the Avatar themselves may know. It's not the MC btw. On their journey they learn all sorts of shit, I dunno. This is all coming out of my ass.

tl;dr nonbender MC is on a mission to find the Avatar after the last one eats it in the Avatar state

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>>91703773
>War can have the opposite effect as well.
If you compare the amount of wars that destroy knowledge as opposed to ones that create it, I'd say 9/10 create it. Even more so when you have a giant spirit owl guarding it.

>It would hamper progress because their wars would mainly be fought between benders and relatively primitive stuff.
There's no way to know this, you're just assuming things now.

>Except for the part where it makes the Avatar a very recent thing
And? their world could be 2000 years old, why would that be a problem?

>I don't see how
By not making a world that constantly evolves - but only on recent times - in a world where the royal family can create electricity from their hands since god knows when, and ore can be obtained with enough people wiggling their arms around.

By making the Avatar literally the spirit of the earth and the elements just the way the world works, with animals teaching humans the natural way - only to then backpedal and paint good and evil as tangible (because somehow balance means good has to always win) and bending as a gift that giant turtles give and take from people.

By establishing Lightning as a very special and deadly skill only a select few can master even if they already know it exists - to then making it a tool every chump in the city knows how to do and somehow does very little(i.e. Amon taking lightning to the face with no real consequences). If you want to say Mako was being bloodbent and couldn't do it properly, how could he shoot it in the first place? I can go on, but you get the point.

>the world and timeline are easy and simple to understand.
I never claimed it was hard. I said it's convoluted and hard to work with because the writers will have trouble knowing where to go from here without resorting to powercreep either from the setting or the character's power.

>They're just a little burned out dude.
I agree, that also sounds reasonable
Sorry for the wall of text.

>>91703299
>Only when they started hinting at rehabilitation being straight up concentration camps and the whole "non-earth benders can fuck off" thing is where it became too obvious they wanted the audience to hate her.

Uh, *tch* ex-CUSE me, Anon. It was painfully obvious that Kuvira was Hitler the moment they introduced her in Book 3. You just don't understand the subtle intricacies of Bryke's writing style.

Like how the reveal that Korra was super gay for Asami was SOOOOOO obvious despite the fact that the two of them have a combined total of about six minutes of screen time through the entire series.

You just don't know about arrrrrrrrrrrrrt.

>>91703714
Yeah, it was Unavaatu, but the cycle was still broken. It was renewed later, but it was broken and all the past lives were lost. The hard-drive was reformatted so the idea still works fine.

>>91701809
>yet for 10,000 years the setting barely advanced from the bronze age to the early 20th century

Wars, collapse of civilizations, loss of knowledge; Rome had awesome cement that wasn't rediscovered until fairly recently; the Thera civilization had flush toilets! Ancient Greece had automatons, the steam-powered jet engine, rails and railcars-

Seriously, it took a long time for us to get where we are, and many times we've been brought down to eating each other and living in caves by man-made and natural disasters.

>>91703707
dyin ovah heah

>>91704013
>Vaatu

Unreliable narrator.

>>91674577
That sounds fucking awful.

>>91703978
>>91703978
Like how people always had chi, but learned fighting styles by observing tigers, mantises, snakes, et al.

>>91704388
Sure whatever, no one disagrees with it though and takes it as having happened.

>>91674577
This is like one or two changes away from being Avatar: Scooby Doo. Which, ya know, I'd actually like to see.

>>91704322
>Ancient Greece had automatons, the steam-powered jet engine,
Curiosities that barely resemble what you are describing them as.

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>>91673786
>Ten thousand years after "The Legend of Korra", the Earth has been thrown out of balance: literally. Some cosmic force has altered the orbit of the Earth, causing it to fluctuate between summers that nearly dry out the ocean and winters that cover the entire world in feet of snow. Society has completely broken down, the spirit wilds are everywhere, and the lion turtles help protect what humans are left in the physical world. On the other side of the barrier, humans are attempting to colonize the spirit world, with disastrous and miraculous results in equal parts. The appearance of the Avatar seems random and limited at best, or the Avatar is destroyed before balance can be restored. However, the new Avatar has been born into a hyper-advanced underground society, and takes it upon himself to return balance to the planet.

I've got a fair bit of this that I was thinking about turning into a few comic pages and actually pitching to someone. But it's just one idea of many so...

>>91673786
It would have to be a prequel series. Going forward in time any more would just make things silly, like how would you do the 50s/60s in Avatar world?

If it weren't for the (in my opinion lackluster) episodes about Wan in Legend of Korra I'd say the most logical thing would be to have a series about The First Avatar. Since that's pretty much all been covered, I'd personally go with an anthology series, each episode/arc (2-3 episodes) focusing on a different Avatar throughout history. That way we could learn about new Avatars we've never even seen, learn more about ones we've only been quickly introduced to like Kuruk and Yangchen, AND maybe even have episodes for Aang and Korra set after their respective series.

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Each episode is just 30 minutes of Korra and Asami fucking

>>91705312
Sounds like shit desu

>>91679798
>Ctrl+F
>Roku
>Literally not found
Am I the only one who doesn't want Avatar keep moving forward in time but see previous avatars?
Everything after Korra would be a shitty portrait of our world and for that I have the real one. I wanna see more fantastic adventures of previous avatars, Roku or Kyoshi would be fine. Hence I pitch to you. Avatar: Burning The World, The Legend of Roku

>>91705782
If we're going back, and i think we should, i would go further back than Roku or any of the other avatars we met in Atla. Maybe back to the time when the Earth Kingdom was founded.

>>91705312
BO-RING.

It's a rare sex video I can stand to watch for more than 10 minutes, and even that is rarer than just skipping around to the good parts. Thank God for tracking previews. This truly is the future.

>>91705911
The point of it being longer is to allow for a variety of scenes and positions to appeal to all tastes

You only need watch the ten minute segment that appeals to you, no time wasted

Efficiency

>>91673786
Skip five avatars. During the skipped time, humanity reached space, colonised it and lost the avatar in a Cryogenix tube somewhere in the fantasy Oort cloud.

All bending of elements have progressed to a fundemental magi-spiritual-scientific universal force.

Earth= Magnetism
Water= Motion
Air= Gravity
Fire= Life

Set in space colonies. Also turns out the boundry to the spirit world is weaker in space. Mech-tanks have progressed to full on power armour and giant mecha.

We follow the crew of a bending spaceship trying to hunt down the frozen avatar so the cycle can continue.

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>>91704083
>Korra has died

>>91679269
>>91698287
This. He was "good Zuko" for all of maybe 3 or 4 episodes before he betrayed Iroh for HONOOOOOR. Those episodes only spanned a few days in story time, iirc. People don't change over a few days. The whole Azula thing doesn't make any sense though. She would have happily killed him and shown his decapitated head to daddy for those "not Zuko" points.

>>91673829
The guy who was rallying it drove everyone off the project because he was never interested in actually getting something made by consensus, but in getting other people to do the heavy lifting for his shitty fanfiction.

>>91708401
>She would have happily killed him and shown his decapitated head to daddy for those "not Zuko" points.

You have no proof of that.

>>91699629
gets out, and then dies doing retarded shit again.

>>91708401
I think Azula likes that she can manipulate Zuko and in Book 3 you get a feeling that she cares about him in her own messed up way. Plus she's DTF.

>>91711001
>she's DTF

she's pure you jackass.

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>>91711076
>azula
>pure

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>>91673786
I'd rather we moved onto a different setting.

Only breath-taking thing they could do with the setting it's if the British and AMERICA waddled into the Avatar universe, and shit happened. Hell, anything less than WW2: Avatar would fail to impress.

>>91711179

She is you, twit. She is a good girl deep down.

>>91711297
>AMERICA waddled into the Avatar universe.

I wouldn't mind a stereotypical blond, blue-eyed American main character just kind of crashing from his airplane into the Avatar isles while trying to escape from some literal Nazis.

Then the demons attack, and it turns out the Nazis are trying to summon Satan to do battle with Rava and the Avatar.

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>>91711334

>>91703653
Ironically, we're all probably still here... suffering.

Jet spin-off series. He survives the Dai Li incident and his buddies bring him back to Ba Sing Se. He wakes up in a hideout just in time to see the Coup.
Rest of the series is him trying to get the rest of the people in the slums out of the city. 12 episodes tops

>>91695533
Noice dubs

The main point I liked with Amon was that he could take their powers away. He instilled fear into their hearts (before they ruined him with bad writing)

Similar to how the media feels right now, the once invincible and powerful beings sprung a leak and was unable to be fixed, slowly losing their control. They died like anyone else, and would fight back even if led to situations similar to planet of the apes,

>we know what happens at the end of the upcoming movie of apes

>>91703804
I suppose it'd be the only interesting plot that could work PROVIDED humans are shown at total war and at their primal state rather being a defeatist cuck like aang or anyone who thinks "they are too powerful give up:3:3"

>if only

There was an actually pretty good fanfic about this linked a while back. Earth Avatar goes up against an Energybender. I'll see if I can find it again.

>>91694909
Impressive, t.b.h.

>>91713973
Found it
>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10953682/1/Avatar-Synergy

Solid read, definitely recommended for any Avatar fan looking to kill some time.

Korra comes back but instead of bending and saving the world she's an exotic dancer