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Mangalorian Edition

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2017.htm

>Out This Week:
Poe Dameron #13 (April 19)

>Star Wars: The Last Jedi trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB4I68XVPzQ [Embed]

>Star Wars: Rebels - The Final Season
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b7GAhnVwhA [Embed]

>Battlefront 2 trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kae-JjbLsgA&index=1&list=FLdSuXSeQXpX_Xax4qNKMnlw [Embed]

>Download links: (Check here for new Rebels Episodes + Books, Comics, Films, etc)
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya

>Canon Guide:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t1KovH_1GYLDTAe3yrleeWiuzwulm670o_anQqr5Rcg/pubhtml

>Legends Recommendation List:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/147N5EgCnZmcPaDYvnGQwl9cn7BhBroFb7mD2C4cmWb0/edit?usp=sharing
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First for Thrawn
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FUCK SAND
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Anyone working on new fan fiction?
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>>91665135
The guy on the right looks a bit like Io Fleming
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>>91665135
Detergent and magma?
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>>91665178
>yfw sand gets in your shoe
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>tfw Han probably always wanted to get the Millenium Falcon back to give to his son
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>>91665135
i'm excited for this, just to get some visuals for one of my favorite Star Wars stories

Very anxious about if/how they show Jude's death
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>>91665253
I hope the sex scene is hot. It had a nice tenderness to it in the book.
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Based on a discussion earlier, I decided to start a project I thought of nearly two years ago. I'm converting all the short stories from jpg to text (software is way more accurate than I had worried), cleaning them up, and then eventually I hope to format and make myself a print copy.

When I get them cleaned up I'll probably first drop them all in a google doc. Is this something that anyone else would be into for me to share here? Or is it just my own personal autism?
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>>91665312
You're doing god's work anon.
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>>91665312
This is absolutely a welcome effort
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>>91665321
>>91665365
Cool, glad there's some interest. I'll probably take it leisurely, but even at just one short story a day while I watch Netflix, it should only take about two weeks. And let's be honest -- I'm probably gonna go full autist and do it in just a few days.

idk what the next step will be though. Even if I included the longer short stories -- Bottleneck, Mercy Mission, and Levels of Power -- there's probably not a whole lot of pages, since the Insider stories are so short. Ultimately it'd be cool to have a full-size hardcover to match the regular novels, but who knows.
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>>91665178
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So what are the chances of a mando presence in episode 8 or 9? For as popular as they are I'm surprised they didn't show a random mando bounty hunter or two in episode 7.
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Has the story of how and when Han lost the Falcon been told anywhere yet?
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https://youtu.be/vqkHTHPz5x0

Posting keks and fun
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>>91665498
Nope. The only things that take place after Aftermath are Poe comic (no Han at all) and Bloodlines (Han is barely in it).
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>And here we see the rare Double Gran in its natural environment
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>>91665541
It's not an amazing design but I already like it more than the multitude of "lumpy earth-toned frog thing" aliens we saw in TFA.
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Was anyone else annoyed with this scene? The Deathtroopers were doing fine until they ran into Captain Asian Aimbot. Then they started stumbling around like drunks and their blaster bolts were flying sideways out of their blasters.
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>>91665572
he was one with the force and the force was with him
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>>91665572
So basically par for the course for Storm Troopers?
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>>91665517
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>>91665518
I've read Bloodline and know that It's after. Thanks though. Didn't know if it was addressed as part of Wendig's books which I have no intention of ever touching since the first one was painfully bad or something. Kind of bothers me actually, it seems somewhat important to talk about.
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>>91665572
He was an asian poweerd up by the death of his monk best friend. What did you think was gonna happen?
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>>91665666
Can't argue with satanic trips
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>>91665572
GREY JEDI
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So Kylo looked like Vader in a New Hope, he looks like EP3 Anakin now, and Rey looks like Obi in EP2. Does this mean Kylo is going to be little Ani in Episode 9,
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>>91665703
MAXIMUM POTTERY
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>>91665703
>It IS you....

>Are you an angel?
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>>91665445
3rd anon that would be very grateful of your work
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>>91665703
nope, crusty oldman Jar-Jar is going to show up in Ep 9 to round out pottery
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>>91665815
No memeing or irony I would legit love this.
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>nu-canon manga
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Taking guesses on BF2 launch heroes

>PT
Yoda
Obi Wan
Anakin (or maybe Mace?)
Maul
Grievous
Jango (only because we've seen Slave 1 on Kamino, don't lose all hope Dookufags)

>OT
Luke
Han
Leia
Vader
Palpatine
Boba

>ST
Rey
Finn
Poe
Kylo Ren
Phasma
Probably a TLJ villain
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>>91665898
wouldn't it make sense to add the bounty hunters from the first game in they already have the assets
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>>91665936
Makes more sense to keep them as DLC again.
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>>91665936
Hell, they can probably touch up the textures and reuse them for the prequels.
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Luke won't die in the ST because Yoda said he'd live to be 900 and we all know they take the OT as literal gospel to imitate and build from
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>>91665617
>Kind of bothers me actually, it seems somewhat important to talk about.
Download the audiobooks. Absolutely worth it.
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>>91665951
well they did say no season pass so idk
>>91665963
seems like a waste not to seeing as they have 3 studios working on the game this time around
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>>91665898
The trailer shows the Scarif space battle and Death Troopers, so I'm hoping Chirrut and Baze Malbus. Maybe Tarkin or Thrawn too. Also, if they do Clone Wars era Obi-Wan I'd like Old Ben as well.


>>91665994
I meant Han losing the Falcon is important, not the story in those shitty books. If anything important happens in them, I'll read the Wook. No audiobook, not even one read by Mark Hamill, can save that disaster.
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>>91665898
Knights of Ren can't come soon enough.
Regardless of what they're like character wise, they should all be fun as fuck to play as on BF2.
Like, I understand why Jyn was chosen as the R1 hero but B I G G U N would be way more fun to play as.
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>>91665966
900 years is also how long Disney would like to keep their Star Wars assembly line running.
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>>91665666
I expected something like this
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>>91665898
It's going to be at LEAST 4 heroes/villains per era

No way they're going to leave Chewbacca out again after the backlash last time.

Throw in Ahsoka/Ventress to PT, Chewie/Bossk to OT, and... And... Rose/Knight of Ren to ST?
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>>91666034
that station didn't look like the shield gate to me it looked more like a ship yard the size is way off compared to rouge 1
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>>91666069
We better get old hermit Luke. I sincerely doubt Ahsoka or any other cartoon character gets put in though.
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>>91666034
>nothing can save that disaster
>implying the Wook isn't equally a disaster
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>>91666109
I think Dice would be fucking obnoxiously stupid to leave Ahsoka out
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>>91665135
wait, is lost stars getting a manga?
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>>91666115
It objectively isn't. In no universe should a fan run wiki database be better written than an official published novel, but that is the sad, horrific reality here.
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>>91666068
>Force plus gunslinger equals dead troopers
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>>91665890
Kamille is a girl's name.
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>>91666133
Well they've proven they are obnoxiously stupid so I wouldn't hold my breath on them including Ahsoka
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>>91665898
EAfront 1 poured too much salt into one wound of mine.
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>>91666137
Yep, someone posted the news a thread or so ago
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>>91666133
I think it's simply a matter of literally every asset in the game being scanned in by photogrammetry and motion capture performers. The alien characters are even literally just scanned in from the old costumes and makeup. The cartoon characters would have to be completely added from scratch. Never gonna happen.
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>>91665890
Define is trash. 0083 Rebellion is the better nu-canon manga
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>>91666190
sweet

hope they don't skimp on the sex scene then. I want to see some sweet brown imperial tits.
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>>91666186
Shame the Bryar pistol sucks in Battlefront. That pulse rifle on the other hand was OP as fuck.
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>>91666199
This is a lie spouted by Dice when they needed excuses for their first Battlefront. A lot of their assets are were not scanned in.

Pro-tip, there are no real Clone Suits either. They're either modelling from scratch, or they had replicas built.

They can create a practical Ahsoka face model if they want to, and scan that in if they absolutely must. I'm sure they had to for Luke/Leia/Han's faces too.
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>>91666241
the rof is sex
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>>91666199
Yoda.

Chewbacca sure as shit didn't look scanned in, either
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>>91666246
Not a lie in any way. You don't seem to know much about game development.


>>91666266
Chewbacca was scanned in, but the process couldn't make any sense of the fur so it just looks terrible.
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>>91666246
Also wouldn't it be infinitely easier to add in CGI content from the prequels? The models are right there, just downscale them a little so consoles and PCs can handle them and you're done.
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>>91666241
>>91666250
the sounds it makes just gets me so hard!
Bryar pistol was great in indoor maps and the smaller game modes. One shotting people felt so crunchy
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>>91666069
If it's 4 heroes/villains for PT then that's Anakin, Obi-Wan, Mace, Yoda, Maul, Dooku, Jango & Grievous.
Ahsoka and Ventress MIGHT be DLC.
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>>91666282
That's not possible. You can't just port that kind of thing into the game engine since it wasn't made with or for it, doesn't work that way.
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>>91665135
I hate star wars, and I hate that it became a staple of /co/. If I could, I would mow you all down with a chainsaw
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>>91665830
>post credits epilogue of Episode IX
>we see a figure sitting in a dark room, lit up only weak wavering lamp on his table, his back turned to us
>he is writing
>in front of him, books, holocrons, datapads, stacks of paper
>suddenly, out of darkness on one side comes old Jar Jar
>on the other, Artoo and BB-8 roll into the light
>"And so, at last, the balance in the Force has been restored. At last, the Jedi have become the galaxy's enlightened and responsible guardians again." the mysterious figure says
>"...and yet this... this has only been the start of another adventure..."
>camera slowly pans around to reveal that the mysterious figure is George Lucas
>music swells
>George puts away the pen and the camera pans to reveal what he was writing
>it's a book, full of text, richly illustrated, with detailed maps and descriptions
>finally George closes the book and we see the title
>"THE JOURNAL OF THE WHILLS"
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>>91666364
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>>91666148
Whatever you say. Keep on thinking that Aftermath is the worst book ever written.
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>>91665666
>friend
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>>91665666
>best friend

I'd buy that these two fucked. Would make way more sense than anything else fangirls ship
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People are talking about all the various TLJ leaks and trying to piece them together with the newest teaser.

BUT

If those leaks are real, how come this whole "time for the Jedi to end" thing was NOWHERE in ANY of the leaks (to my knowledge)

I've not heard of that, or anything remotely comparable to that regarding Luke and his arc.

Doesn't that destroy the credibility of most-if-not-all leaks? Or at the very least, show that they are as outdated as "Luke's hand floating in space" was?

I think the true story of The Last Jedi is still very much unknown to us.
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>>91666827
It's possible that it disproves the leaks, though it's also possible that Luke gets talked out of it fairly quickly and his decision to end the Jedi isn't a major plot point.
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>>91666186
Poor Chris Kattan...
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>>91666827
Depends on what meaning you carry out of the "end of the Jedi".

Does it mean a literal end? No more Force sensitives taught in the ways of the Force? Or just that Luke just won't teach Rey in the Jedi way, opting for something different instead?

I don't really know where people get the idea that Luke is done with the Force altogether. His "it's so much bigger" line and the way it was said implies enthusiasm. Forget the past, forget the Jedi, there is so much more to the Force that we can learn.
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>>91666933
>>91667095
I'm guessing it only comes into play at the beginning, with Luke being reluctant to train anyone but he finally gives in and starts training Rey.
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>>91666827

Luke's part of the story is the least covered by the leaks. We know some stuff that has to happen early on in the film, and we know about stuff Finn does with Rose on Canto Bight. But where Luke fits into it we don't know.

The jedi ending bit is clearly two different audio clips mashed together too. It's just another layer of dumbass mystery box stupidity.
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>>91667155

I still say that's a fucking terrible thing to do. In a film with that much rehash material having Luke cut close to Yoda is just fucking stupid, especially when the audience knows he'll just relent anyway.
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>>91667237
I don't think Luke's "reluctant" phase will take long. Most of what we've seen in the trailer is from the first act, before Kylo and the KoR arrive on Ahch-to. When cut together with the Resistance plot, you'd esentially have to dance around Luke's reluctance, then do the Force vision, training, Jedi lore, the monster fight, Kylo's recovery and journey to the planet etc.

That's just a lot of stuff to unpack, especially since we know that Rey's training doesn't end with Kylo's arrival. You have to have the grand action scene and then more scenes with Rey and Kylo getting close before leaving Ahch-to.


I think Luke won't be screwing around for too long. "The Jedi must end" might be like a second scene with him, because we can see Rey's staff laying against the wall. He might invite her in, they talk, Luke explains that he doesn't want to repeat the Jedi's mistakes and then agrees to show her what he has learned on Ahch-to.
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>>91667281
WTF
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>>91667365

The screwing around at ALL is a mistake. We saw one jedi master go into exile when his order was destroyed, two now. Hell if we mine the EU there's about four or five of them by now. It's not an alien process or one we need to see again.
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>>91667379
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>>91665135
Brown fascist tits when?
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>>91667541
After we see Captain Phasma's
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>>91666827
Because it's a throwaway line for the trailer that means nothing in the movie.
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i want to shoot the biggest gooiest load all over gwendoline christie's stupid face

and i dont know why
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>>91667653
Face it, Anon, you're in love.
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>>91667653
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>>91667387
Obi Wan went into exile for very different reasons to Luke
Obi Wan had literally no other option than to hide in the desert and wait patiently for Luke to grow up into the saviour he was meant to be, Luke saw his life's work burn down around him (for the second time) because of a secret he'd kept and the pupil he'd trained
Obi Wan never stopped believing in the Jedi way, and went to his grave lying through his teeth to Luke to keep him on what Obi saw as the Jedi path
Luke abandoned the Jedi way after losing his apprentices, either to the Dark Side or to the massacre. He walked away from the entire galaxy over this crisis of faith
Trying to conflate the two is nonsense
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>>91667676
>>91667707
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>>91667551
Is she even human ?
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>>91667776
pls be chiss
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>>91667795
Blue makeup can and has done wonders for otherwise unattractive people
For the record Karen is attractive anyway, just not when she's bald and not blue
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>>91667810
>not liking bald blue Karen

nigga u gay
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>>91667746
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>>91665135
Where will this be available? And do we have any whatever that language is, Anons that could translate it?
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>>91667835
That's my point, bald blue Karen is 10/10, but plain bald Karen is not great
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>>91667857
>Where will this be available?
It's going to be a digital only release it looks like, the first issue should be released on May 4th (hue). Haven't looked at the news beyond that though.

>And do we have any whatever that language is
It's moon, you putz. It seems odd to me they wouldn't have an official english translation, but we'll have to see if any of the nip readers floating around the site bother much with it.
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>>91666827
post yfw Luke is the nuCanon Kreia
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https://youtu.be/6JfsysjFbD0

Definitely /ourguy/.
I also like how Kennedy tried to do some damage control.
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>>91667857
Starts on May 4th (because of course it does), with parts uploaded every other Thursday after that
No word yet on what languages its available in, but the site they're hosting it on is all Japanese so I'd assume its going to need a translation. Shouldn't be difficult, assuming the manga just uses lines straight out of the book
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>>91667879
>the first issue should be released on May 4th (hue)
Heh alright

Hopefully there will be an english release then
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>>91667885
So Luke is trying to destroy the Force and Snoke is trying to stop him?
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>>91667886
I think the funniest clip was then the guy asks Harrison if he was excited for the Han Solo film, but then Harrison and Lucas start laughing.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xN6IdhTQ7A
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>>91668187
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxMIECU0sK8

I think Andi would have gotten a better interview from Punished Ford. This guy acting like an obnoxious clown didn't help.
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>>91667879
/a/ will undoubtedly translate it.
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>>91667653
Might want to bring a step-ladder first, chick is built like a tower.

Just the way I like them.
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>Ezra's VA will be appearing at the little Star Wars fan event in my shitty, run-down English hometown
Huh... That's a severe step down after Celebration Orlando
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>>91668470
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>>91668416
Dunno, they didn't seem too enthusiastic when someone posted about this earlier over there. That said, it's Star Wars so someone will probably get around to it quickly enough.
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>>91665703
>Kylo Ren podracing sequence
Sweet Baby Jesus yes
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>>91665703
Yep. That includes the bowl cut and the "yipees"
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>anons think Greivous will actually make it into BF2
Normies don't care about Greivous. He's a niche favorite by a few select nerds, such as ourselves. Don't kid yourselves.
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>>91668644
Rewatched TPM yesterday, so many yippees
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>>91665135
Is the story some romeo & juliet type story between rebel and empire pilots ?
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>>91668686
Dunno, does it end with them being shot as traitors to the cause?

By the rebels?
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>>91667281
Kek
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should i add nips
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>>91668751
no that's fine

send it to her now
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>>91668336
>>91668451
>>91668751
MODS
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>>91668751
Are Chiss mammals?
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>>91668794
i dont have shwitter you send it
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>>91667897
>Shouldn't be difficult, assuming the manga just uses lines straight out of the book
This usually isn't the case and when you remove text you often have to redraw it see here: https://mangahelpers.com/forum/threads/advanced-redrawing-methodes.2993177/

Can take hours to redraw everything if the text is in transparent bubbles or on the art.

There are also plenty of books that have gotten manga adaptations and no one has picked it up.
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>>91668802
theres no nudity in the images what's the problem
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https://youtu.be/JBstE89j_7w
>inb4 Jar Jar Abrams

So is Mark gonna get away with saying that?
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>>91668908
lurk more you dip
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>>91668660
People recognize Grievous, even if they don't really care about his character. He's a cool design. That's all DICE needs.

And what is the alternative? Dooku is even more of a normie-deterrent. Ventress or Savage, two characters from animated shows that most of the potential purchasers of this game have never seen? Fuck, Jango is in and he's just Blue Boba for casuals.

The sad reality is that among the general audience, none of the prequel villains, sans Maul, are particulary popular.
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>>91668922
I don't have the time to spend all day shitposting on a Toydarian spare part trading holosite to know if it's been talked about already. I asked a question to invite conversation.
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>>91669003
lurk
more
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>>91668660
Grievous has video game written all over him. After Maul, he's the most appropriate Prequel villain.
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Have they confirmed mah boi Sio Bibble for BF2 yet?
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>>91669051
>tfw no season pass
>tfw no meme-pack DLC with Bibble, Yarael Poof and Kid Fister
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>>91669070
>ywn kick fisto a clanker
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>>91668908
Get away with saying what, that he disagrees with how Luke was written but was ultimately pleased to be wrong about TFA?
Its clear from other interviews he did at Celebration that Mark thought Luke was going to have a much more directly heroic role working alongside Leia to save Han, and admitted he was a little sad that didn't come to pass. That's not an indictment of the film, just him saying he was expecting one kind of story and role and instead he got another
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>>91668686
For a bit, it's actually one of the better NuCanon books.
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>>91668722
The hot one ends up in jail
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Will we see more of the Kanjiklub in the Solo movie?
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>>91669122
WHY DONT YOU ASK KANJIKLUB
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>>91669003
It's not really about lurking, it's that the last few days we had shitposters tearing the thread apart with their cries of DISNEY RUINING STAR WARS, using bait-y videos like this to incite arguments.

And yes, that specific video in question is bait, even if you didn't intend it as such. It's just an excerpt from a longer answer, where Mark says (paraphrasing) that his thoughts doesn't really mean anything, until he gets to see the full picture.
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>>91669154
this. finally someone speaking some sense
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>>91666069
>non-movie characters
You don't get how this works at all.
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DEAD THREAD

DEAD FRANCHISE
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>>91669338
Pic related used to be a thing tho, and not from a mod.
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In a perfect world we'd get a game with many characters from each era, but alas we live in a corporate world and normies are triggered by anything prequel or baby cartoon related.
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>>91669487
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>>91669562
>baby cartoon related

Like this guy?
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>>91669600
It took me ages of /swco/ lurking to finally be able to take TCW seriously and consider watching it after seeing this lil' fella the first time in the movie.
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>>91669579
>what have I done
TWO BILLION DOLLARS

Kathy got a pat on the back from Bob Iger. All she can regret is that Pablo refuses to share coffee with her now.
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>>91669640
the image implies she gives a shit
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>>91669102
My I ask for spoiler of what you means by a bit ?
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>>91669652
Even from a coldly corporate perspective JJ is increasingly unfolding into a mistake
You'd think after Star Trek people would have put two and two together and realize that JJ's mystery box bullshittery approach to film making and world building is irredeemably toxic for regenerating a franchise
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>>91669724
You'd think.
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>>91669724
Not yet.

TFA is still generating buzz. People will go see TLJ to learn OMG WHO ARE REY'S PARENTS AND WHO IS SNOKE AND IS LUKE EVUL OMG. The point where it'll come crashing down is when the answers inevitably won't confirm the headcanons of half the audience and salt begins to flow.

LOST was a mistake. They really should have went the Fantastic Beasts route and just make a simple story with sequel lead-ins, instead of crippling the first movie with their shadowplay and putting the sequels at risk by virtue of not being able to live up to whatever people dream up.
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>>91669753
Point, I briefly applied logic to an industry that can be unspeakably retarded sometimes
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>>91669724
It also ends up leading to stillborn franchises. Tomorrowland had a lot of interesting lore and ideas, but it was never utilized all that well and yet so much of the marketing was focused on a literal mystery box of stuff tied to said backstory and trailers going "What's the deal with this pin?".

I was so pissed to find out that the "Walt was a member of this secret society of futurists that actually built the city of the future in an alternate dimension" aspect of some of that build up ended up only amounting to the Small World cameo in the final cut because to quote Lindelof "Having Walt Disney in the movie would make it seem like too much of a Disney movie".
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>>91665224
>Ben and Chewie will never go on adventures throughout the galaxy
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I miss old Thrawn appearance wise. New Thrawn looks lame.
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>>91669923
>"Having Walt Disney in the movie based entirely on Walt's own utopian Futurist ideals for the World of Tomorrow that directly inspired this very movie would make it seem like too much of a Disney movie"
Hollywood was a fucking mistake
How do people this fucking stupid end up with that degree of influence? Is there some warped gravity in the movie industry that lets people consistently fail upwards?
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>>91669993
I'm not sold on the eye shadow but everything else is fine. I do like that nu-Thrawn has actual irises, the solid red always felt a bit off for a character who we should see focusing on and taking in specific small details from a visual language stand point
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>>91669990
>Rex will never confront Stormtrooper Cody
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>>91670036
Solid red was alien as fuck, I liked it
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>>91669993
I like the new one better. The old one feels almost generic in his appearance save the blue skin.
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>>91670015
>How do people this fucking stupid end up with that degree of influence? Is there some warped gravity in the movie industry that lets people consistently fail upwards?

Because we allowed it.

>the chucklefucks at Sony are spinning the Homecoming-verse out of MCU after Infinity War and Homecoming 2
>Suicide Squad made enough money to justify a sequel and two spinoffs
>Apocalypse is getting a sequel and Logan happened only because Jackedman took a pay cut
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>>91670072
Dude that face is retarded as hell
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>>91670069
Blue skin and a complete inability to understand human emotions and pride covers that for me
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>>91668660
>Normies
Then explain Nien Numb/Dengar/Bossak/Greedo in EAfront 1 you autistic fuck
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>>91665517
I like the Dooku switch at the end.
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>>91665890
Funny that you post this since Lost Stars is basically a Gundam story in Star Wars.
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>>91670233
>>91670072
>>91669993
Different strolks for different folks

The old design makes him look like a badass fighter. He comes off as much more physically intimidating because of the wide face and younger look. The new design makes him look weaker, but as such he looks more like the deep thing mastermind the should be.

I personally prefer the new one but I would never have been disappointed if we kept the old design
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>>91670233
Its a more expressionist version of the face you just posted. Its got a similar chin and cheekbones, just more exaggerated. Now that might be part of the vaguely Rebels art style, or it might be that they're hammering home the "human like but obviously not human" aspect a bit more by having the whole face feel faintly off by human standards
Either way, the new look really works
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>>91669993
agreed
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So the clones were white due to Kaminoans seeing in a different spectrum so why did the empire continue with the white colouring?
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>>91669507
That was then, this is now.
And you know what matters now?
The movies. Which one is Ventress in? That's right, the CG movie that normies (the target audience) are unaware of.

Movie characters only, I'll eat a lightsabre if I'm wrong.
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>>91670519
Is that canon?
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>>91670519
Because by that point white armour was associated with the Republic Army, and Palpatine had a vested interest in making the transition as smooth as possible
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>>91669993
I like the new one
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>>91670747
Where is this art from? The only official canon art I have seen is the Rebels stuff and the cover of his new novel
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>>91669706
The romance takes a backseat.
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>>91670547
Used to be so in legends at least, not sure about new canon.
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>>91670833
Meh. This is only half true. The drama is still centered around their romance, but that drama definitely does take place of the romance itself.

Really excited to see the Jakku scene played out visually.
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>>91670826
It's been around since 2013 but it has post-2014 characters too.
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Reminder to all the shitlords who think Sith Lords weren't a thing since the beginning.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ja4WudpzBYw
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>>91670747
Yeah this new facial structure makes him (and probably Chiss in general) look much more alien.
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>>91669706
They both start out as Imperials then the guy defects. Then they bone in a dingy hotel room while on their saved leave.
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>One big piece of information she discussed was the chance of an announcement for a new Anthology film
>While not confirming what the subject of the movie will be or offering any specifics, she did mention that Lucasfilm hopes to have the next Anthology film announced by the end of the summer.

http://lrmonline.com/news/kathleen-kennedy-comments-on-the-next-star-wars-anthology-film

So what's it going to be? We only have a few months to find out.

Hard mode: No Bobba Fett and no Obi Wan
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>>91671033
How dingy, like vegas sleaze or run down motel?
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>>91671082
It's literally a cave with furniture.
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>>91671046
Those the only two possibilities and of the two Boba is the most likely
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>>91671046
It's going to be something totally unexpected

>>91671091
Boba has a high chance. Higher chance than any other rumored one, but Im crossing my fingers for a new original idea.
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>>91671082
Cheap hotel in industrial china dingy. It had a bed, a bar downstairs and no security cameras.
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>>91670938
I wonder what he envisioned the Sith to look like. Pic related was apparently the concept for young Obi Wan but George changed the attire later to his ANH clothing.
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>>91670938
Wait what ? People actually believed that ?
Damn, I remember Vader being called a Sith Lord on the novelization and even on some toys.

Funny fact: on my french version of the book, "Lord of the Sith" is translated as "Seigneur de la Sith", as the word "Sith" being singular and female-gendered
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>>91671046
Sidious/Plagueis
Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan
Yoda, though Lucas never wanted to give him a backstory so probably not
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>>91671120
There are /tv/ posters who think the term was made for Episode 1 specifically and hate anything with the mention of sith.
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>>91671118
It would have been so much more believable for no one to spot the smith if they and the Jedi went round in concealing black robes.
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>>91671138
If we are getting a Plagueis movie it would need to be after episode 9 to avoid spoiling the big reveal
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>>91671138
There is room to give Yoda a backstory without ACTUALLY giving him a backstory. Tell the tale of him training Dooku and slowly watching him go against the Jedi ways. Lots of potential without actually having to answer any questions about yoda
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>>91671143
Phone will autocorrect Sith but capitalise Jedi.
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>>91671046
The world is too sinful for us to be getting a Thrawn stand alone movie, but its nice to dream of the impossible now and again
Otherwise, I'd say a Lando movie might happen, but knowing Disney they'd want to see the reaction to Glover's performance first
I mean, the obvious answers are what you suggested, but I'd say an Obi movie is much more likely. Ewan has expressed interest, and the idea has been received pretty positively
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What's the point of a Obi-Wan movie? He can't leave Tatooine or fight Vader
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>>91671120
Yeah, the Burger King glass, and Topps cards off the top of my head described Vader as Dark Lord of the Sith, but some asshats occasionally post here that Sith wasn't a thing until the prequels. Hell, Tim Zahn's name for the Noghri was Sith in the original draft of HttE, but Lucasfilm said, "no, the Sith is something else".
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>>91671210
A story set entirely on Tatooine, where Obi-Wan gets roped into a local dispute and has to solve it without openly admitting he's a Jedi. Basically take Star Wars back to its Western and Samurai flick roots
Alternatively you could do some prequel era story with him and Anakin just before AoTC
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It's worth remembering that they had an entire Boba movie planned and ready to start production before the director shit the bed and got fired from Disney. They even had a trailer ready for 2016(5?) SWC that they never showed once the movie was put on the back burner.

I have a bad feeling it's going to be a Bobba movie for that reason, but it's hard to say. If all they had was a script written, there is a good chance the next anthology will be something else, but if they already had a cast picked/props made, it's probably going to be the Fett movie next
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>>91671046
D O O K U
F I L M
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>>91671210
Tbh I think that's a perfect reason to give him a movie. It's a recognizable character in a setting and under circumstances that forces the plot away from traditional star wars tropes.

Tbh if he COULD leave tatooine or fight Vader, I think the movie would be completely predictable. It's the fact that he's forced to stay on tatooine where I would have to think "where are they going with this?"
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>>91671241
>>91671316

Too bad he can't have a proper live-action encounter with Maul now, that's the biggest thing I regret about Rebels.
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>>91665135
Will we see her naked during the sex scene?
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>>91671142
This. They were also doing damage control when the clip was posted, claiming that it CGI'd in by Disney just to fit it in with the rest of the films.
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>>91671388
The fact that his maul encounter was during rebels means that there was no plans for a live action version in the first place. I wouldnt beat yourself up over it.

This shit is planned so far in advance I'm sure they looked at all of their possibilities and decided rebels was the best way to go.
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>>91671243
If they had a trailer and props ready they would be hinting at Boba much more strongly than they are. And there would have been rumours about the casting call for it
Besides, what did the director do? Literally shit in Iger's bed or something?
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>>91671444
Of course, I don't doubt it.
But I was dreaming of this since TCW, it was just a personal disappointment.
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>>91671388
Honestly even if they had saved that for live action I would still prefer the way they did it over them getting some wire-fu fight in the desert. These two have fought each other so long it just fits for them to have that brief stand off, try and predict the fight before one incredibly brief yet decisive clash
>>91671395
>CGI'd in voice lines from an actor who's been dead for twenty years now
Damn /tv/ that is some dedication to a dumb conspiracy theory
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>>91671446
They were at the time. Bobba had 2 interludes in the Aftermath books that were clearly hinting at something bigger. At the time there was still plenty of time to prepare the canon for him too. Plus, it's not like the Han movie was hinted at very hard before being announced.

>what did the director do?
directed Fantastic 4 and publicly shit all over the studio, calling the movie quality their fault.
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>>91671525
>Damn /tv/ that is some dedication to a dumb conspiracy theory
Well, what do you expect? The idiots still believe in that false force tree rumour.
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>normies dont like asohka

but TCW clip videos have like a million views each on youtube and it was a 5 season long cartoon on cartoon network that spawned videogames and a movie

im pretty sure normies can recognise her way better than the other jedi like plo koon and aayla secura
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>>91671576
The real problem is you can't make people shoot a teenage padawan.
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>>91671623
heroes dont die in battlefront

plus you know

shes a jedi
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>>91671547
Yeah, now I think about it there's not a lot to be gained from hinting that Boba might have crawled out of the Sarlaac unless you planned to use him later. And, to be fair, a Han movie about his early life is kind of an ace in the hole, you could always fall back on that if you needed to
I feel for that director though, he's not wrong. The FF movies exist purely to satisfy a legal requirement so Fox can keep the rights. But you really shouldn't say that
>>91671549
The one about midichlorians being some kind of fungus spore shat out by Force trees or something? How the fuck did that ever come up?
>>91671576
And she turned up in the best season of Rebels, that will endear the modern and/or returning audience too her
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>>91671623
George had his own son be shot on screen in RotS
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>>91671549
The force tree rumor is being spammed so hard because even if it's not 100 percent accurate, they already got the fact that "force trees exist" right, so when the movie comes out they can all say "AHAHAH LOOK I WAS RIGHT! THERES A FORCE TREE! THIS MOVIE IS SO SHIT"

It's just an elaborate setup for shitposting. I see right through their autism.
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>>91671391
It's not hentai, so only some tasteful exposure is guaranteed.
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I finally read the Poe Dameron comic series and honestly I don't know why you guys never talk about it. I had found the sequel era really boring before but this comic run actually made it interesting by making the universe feel bigger and introducing legitimately exciting concepts like the giant beings from the egg and the prison planet. Also, Terex is a good villain and I've never once seen him brought up in /swco/ before.

Did TFA sour /swco/ to the sequel era so much that they don't even want to acknowledge anything taking place around then?
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>>91671639
It doesn't matter who's fault it is the movie was bad.
If the director just kept his fucking mouth shut and took his crappy RT scores like a man, hed probably be directing the next movie. It's nobody's fault but his at this point.
Of course I don't know that for sure, but I think the chances of him being fired for shitting on the studio that hired him is much more likely than being fired for making a crappy movie
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>>91671668
Tasteful delicious brown Imperial booty is all I could ask for. Hopefully the manga delivers
Or EABF2 could surprise all of us and have a Starship Troopers style unisex shower scene
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>>91671656
It's cause people are scared/ paranoid of the whole bother/sister shit
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>>91671656
>they already got the fact that "force trees exist" right
We don't even know that either. Right now it's literally just a weird Star Wars looking tree in a set. For all we know it could just be a small hut made out of the tree that Luke uses to keep books or jedi material.
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>>91671637
>>91671646

Video games don't work that way, children and teens were and always will be either non-existent or unassailable, except for some niche games.
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>>91671243
I am hoping the Boba Fett movie will be retooled into a bounty hunters movie with Boba Fett in a big but not necessarily lead role. My ideal bounty hunters movie would be an ensemble piece. It would be like Suicide Squad but good.
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>>91671688
What is the overarching Poe comic about? How many issues?

Tfa didn't sour me to the sequel trilogy, the sequel trilogy did that itself. I just can't get into "not rebels vs not imperials". It just feels like a discount OT.
Hopefully Episode 8 will change that. The shot of that salt planet or whatever it was looked like nothing I have seen in star wars before so it gave me hope. That's all I wanted from this trilogy, settings and tones I have never seen in SW before
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>>91671707
Luke personally goes after two force tree saplings (taken from the tree seen in TCW at the Coruscant temple) in the Shattered Empire comic.
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>>91671692
Having a shitty movie tied around your neck is something that never leaves you anon, and it rankles even more knowing that it sucked mostly for reasons out of your control
>>91671688
I enjoy the Poe comics but Poe himself drives me up the wall when they can't fall back on Isaac's own charm. He's such an insufferable git I wound up wanting Terex to win, at least before he went off the deep end and pulled an entire pirate fleet out of his ass
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>>91671709
The Last of Us was hardly niche and had kids killed.
Just raise the rating of Battlefront and there you go.
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>>91671707
True, but the fact that there is a giant tree set, and Luke gives a tree powerful in the force to Poe Damerons parents is enough evidence for me. I'm convinced a force tree will have SOMETHING to do with the movie
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>>91671753
It was also marketed as horror.
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>>91671688
the ST's problem is fundamental. "rebels vs empire" has been done to death, and TFA continuing it but with new names instead of creating entirely new factions has probably turned a lot of people off
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>>91665200
Glad I wasn't the only one thinking this
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>>91671740
Its 13 so far, and its mostly about Poe digging up information about the First Order and currently he's trying to track down info about Hux while plugging a leak from within Black Squadron
I won't lie to you, its got a lot of the "not Rebels v not Empire" feel in places, but it does have the decency to frame it better and explicitly point out that the Resistance is an illegal organization
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>>91671741
He gave one to the Damerons, and kept the other for himself. I doubt it could grow as large as the one in TLJ is in just over thirty years (that shot of Luke in a doorway from the trailer is from inside a tree, you can tell if you boost the light levels on a screenshot of it)
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>>91671767
People should stop thinking that Star Wars is just for children. I only recently had that talk with some dude at Gamestop that refused to sell some kid Battlefront because he was too young and the argument of the kids' father was "but it's Star Wars"
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>>91671838
>I doubt it could grow as large as the one in TLJ is in just over thirty years
Anon you should know by now that the force works in mysterious ways that don't match our real life ways.
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>>91671688
I've fallen behind on every comic except the Maul one.
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>>91671879
Point, but it would somewhat undersell and unnecessarily muddle the story of Luke hiding out in the ruins of the first Jedi Temple, exploring the relics kept in the tree at its heart if they said he'd brought the tree with him and it grew to this ancient gnarled thing within thirty years, complete with fancy driftwood bookshelves
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>>91671865
It's not JUST for children, but it is meant to able to be enjoyed by children. That gamestop employee is a fucking idiot because there's nothing unsuitable for a child in Battlefront.

Need I bring up the Lucas' final say on the matter at celebration not even a week ago?
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>>91671961
It's a FPS which default to a 16+ rating in my country. The kid was maybe 11. He would have violated against the law if he sold them the game knowing it was for the kid.
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>>91671961
Battlefront has a rating of 16 or Teen depending on what system you use, if some 12 year old comes in asking to buy it the store has every right to say no. Yes BF1 doesn't have any particularly objectionable but the rating is still the rating, and you have to apply it to everyone at all times to prevent people from taking advantage of a relaxed policy in a way that blows back on you
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>>91672002
>shooters default to 16+ in your country
EVEN VIRTUAL GUNS ARE BANNED IN BRITAIN SHAKING MY DAMN HEAD
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>>91672020
Its Teen in the US, probably just for the whole "shooting other humans, or people who look like humans" thing. 11 is not 13, so its still illegal
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>>91672018
>>91672002
But, he had his dad with him...you're allowed to sell those games at the behest of an adult guardian aren't you? I've never heard of kids being denied video games when their parents were OK with buying them.
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>>91672061
>>91672018
>>91672002
TOO BRUTAL FOR KIDS, FEDERAL OFFENSE TO PEDDLE IT
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>>91672065
That also depends on the country.
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>>91672065
Its an edge case, and you'll probably find the manager had been on someone's ass about something similar with a much more violent game, but if its clear that the adult is purchasing the game for the kid you have to base the decision off the kids age
Its mostly to stop idiotic latchkey parents buying little Timmy GTA 5 and then storming back into the shop demanding a refund, full corporate apology and/or store credit after they see how violent the game is, and then proceed to blame the store for not warning them about the clearly visible age rating and material warnings on the box
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So when does the Ahsoka novel take place?

In season 2 of Rebels both Vader and Palp are only just finding out Ahsoka is alive, but she is being hunted by an Inquisitor in her book, which I was under the impression took place before rebels started

Did the Inquisitor just not know her identity? I would have assumed he'd report it to Vader
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>>91672143
It's retaed3d that fad could have just bought the gaem for himself
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>>91672143
I have never heard of this happening. I've also never heard of any dumb shit parent having any sort of legal claim to recompense in such a situation, all the culpability is shifted away from the seller to the consumer with all those warnings.
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What kinda dumbass brings dual pistols as a primary weapon to a tactical military situation instead of a proper rifle or an SMG?
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>>91672196
It takes place a year after Revenge of the Sith, so 18 BBY.

And the Inquisitor probably didn't report it because he ded
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>>91671688
I'm just not interested when the grand scheme of things is literally the premise of the OT but 10 times less interesting.
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Anyone else getting tired of Mandalore?
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>>91672295
yes, I'm beginning to hope that season 4 concept art was a prophecy instead of just cool random shit

bokatan and ursa are qt though I hope they live
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>>91672232
Its not about legal, its about keeping the customer happy and not having some angry parent screeching about how "vidyagames are for kids, how could you sell this filth to my innocent boy!" while said innocent boy is clearly anything but since he's looking so dejected over not being able to play the game with the strippers in it anymore
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>>91672324
THINK
OF
THE
CHILDREEEEEEEEEEEEN
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>>91672295
No
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>>91672253
>What kinda dumbass makes the same copypasta every thread
Why do we have such retarded bots?
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>>91672295
Not really, but then I checked out of Star Wars for a long time so I missed a lot of the Mandowank that went down in the EU
I'm enjoying it in Rebels so far, and I'm especially grateful that Sabine openly admits she's not the one to unite Mandalore. Its good to see main characters step aside sometimes

And part of me kind of wants to see what the Mandos have gotten up to in the thirty years between ROTJ and TFA. Have they reignited their militancy? Have they returned to their heavily armed peace? There's a lot of questions I'd like to see answered
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>>91672295
Armors are cool, but holy shit TCW burned me out on them.
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>>91672263
You'd think a dead inquisitor would raise some flags.
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>>91672403
Not a year after the Wars ended, there were still a lot of Jedi out there on the run, it could have been any one of them who killed the Inquisitor
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>>91672395
How? The final mandalore arc was in the top 3 best arcs of tcw.
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>>91672437
True. I didn't consider this, I'm stupid.
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>>91672449
I wouldn't have minded if they finished the Siege of Mandalore liked planned. It feels like it was building up to nothing otherwise.
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>>91672253
>bringing any guns at all when you could bring your own spinning helicopter saber
Amateur.
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>>91672449
No denying that. That arc was pretty awesome.

Went into the first Mandalore arc with a blank slate. For some reason, everything there just seemed to rub me the wrong way. The people, the beliefs, the architecture (looks awesome, but feels claustrophobic as fuck; a problem I also have with Coruscant for some dumb reason). With each episode, I wound up liking the place less and less.
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>>91672455
Don't knock yourself mate, its an easy thing to miss
Besides, if you apply that level of logic you do have to ask why Vader wouldn't start hunting Ashoka immediately and exclusively, since as a ex-Jedi she would have slipped the net of Order 66 anyway, and yet still be a danger to the Empire
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>>91672518
Just don't expect to fly unless you're on some Dark Side heavy locale.

...and after seeing her gameplay video the other day, I'm still trying to figure out of she can hit while running.
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>>91672579
Who said that?
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>>91672519
Yeah, Mandalore in TCW is weird. Lucas seemed to have this unofficial scale of morality where absolute pacifism even to your own active detriment was seen to be the most good anyone could achieve, but was equally shown to be painfully naive so the best good you could DO was to be like Obi-Wan and only fight if you have no other option.

That and the whole system just doesn't make sense as a Mandalorian invention, going off what was canon at the time, so it just comes off like a society that was dictated to the Mandalorians by the Republic after their wars with each other
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>>91672548
Maybe we're getting an answer to that in Darth Vader Rising or how that new comic is called.
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>>91671243
Why do people in here not want a Boba movie based on him fucking up in ROTJ (ignoring that it wasn't supposedly have gritty badass villains) and messing up one other time when he was a kid (meanwhile nearly killing the leader of an order of plasma sword wielding space ninjas)? All his other appearances in canon show him to be a pretty competent guy even if he has to lose most of the time because obviously he can't just up and kill Luke Skywalker. If they made a Boba movie it wouldn't be them making fun of the character and having him constantly fuck up and it wouldn't have him become a big Gary Stu like his EU appearances either. It would probably just be a cool action movie that's basically John Wick in space. You guys need to realize that neither Lucasfilm or the fans see Boba as some dumb faggot who can't properly screw in a lightbulb let alone kill someone. There's a reason why he killed a member of Death Watch, Cad Bane, and is considered one of the best bounty hunters in the galaxy. Even Filoni would agree with this.
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>>91671046
>Podracers
>Ahsoka (would nut so hard if we get live action Siege of Mandalore)
>Mace Windu getting too old for this shit, motherfucker
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>>91672594
>Just don't expect to fly unless you're on some Dark Side heavy locale.
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>>91672822
Courscant was pretty solid in the prequels so it can only get better
>Dex and Mace buddy film never
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>>91672779
They need to set it after RotJ. If they set him up as super competent and then he fails at the sarlaac pit it leaves a sour taste. Have him escape the pit and recover and then do something all John Wick style and it would probably be received better. He was never raised mandalorian so the most I want to see out of that is mandos consider him pretty good. Maybe a clan would want him to join, but that's about it.
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>>91672835
Half-assed excuse, but it was explained that flying via Heli-saber only works on locations rich in the Dark Side of the force.
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>>91672579
>>91672622
Well than you are a salty piece of shit with bad taste.
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>>91672907
I think post ROTJ would be the best so you can do a getting back in the game/building yourself back up from nothing plot with Boba. If Aftermath is anything to go by he's either lost or sold his armour to some Jawa scavenger, leaving Boba at his lowest point since the Geonosis
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>>91672943
Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities, some considered to be... unnatural.
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>>91672943
I believe they took that back and Pablo explained that they can do it because the hilt of their lightsabers contains a repulsorlift.
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>>91672449
All the Maul & Savage gang up fights were great: Obi Wan & Adi Gallia, Obi Wan & Ventress
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE_CVWMWK74
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufGInoX0mzw
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>>91672943
That's retarded
>>91673018
Less retarded but still more retarded than just forcejumping with grappling hooks or something
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Poor little Jedi boy.
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>>91672992
Depends on how they adapt old material. He could have a lot of armors. But getting taken down. By a blind man and thought dead would be a blow to his reputation.
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>>91673063
List of girls I want to see Ezra with:
>Ursa Wren
>Hera Syndulla
>Sabine Wren
>Bo'Katan Kryze
>Numa
>Ahsoka Tano
>Leia Organa
>Chelli Aphra
>Pash Davane
>Evaan Verlaine
>Taun We
>Sana Starros
>Rae Sloane
>Gold Three
>Mon Mothma
>Captain Brunson
>Rey
>Captain Phasma
>Iden Versio
>Jess Pava
>Shara Bey
>every other conceivably alive female in star wars canon that I can't remember (and some males)

List of girls I don't want to see Ezra with:
>Seventh Sister
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>>91673170
Gee, thanks for the vote of confidence anon.
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>>91673258
ss belongs with kanan
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>>91673101
I think it would work better if it was like a Batman thing, that armour was what he was known for and without it people don't take him as seriously or think they have a shot against the great Boba Fett
Trying to rebuild while maintaining his failing rep all while the Empire burns down around him could make for a very interesting movie, especially if it ends with Boba proving himself to the Republic as an Imperial Hunter
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ssfag genocide when?
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>>91673284
ss belongs with the rest of the trash
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>>91673284
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>>91673293
>>91673318
>being this angry
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>>91673376
wrong age
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>>91673376
Artwork is iffy, but I've always had a soft spot for this pose
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>>91673292
Ooh. That does sound all right. I'd kinda like him to start with almost no armor and have to go to his old caches and take it from his enemies for a bit too. Maybe have someone jack his ride? Like have that be the final blow and he tracks it down and takes it back but a lot of the contents are missing. And a part of me hates to say this...but a sidekick? At least an informant or friend like Deadpool and weasel.
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SS belongs with Kanan and Ezra desu
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>>91671118
Looks kinda Tales of the Jedi-ish.
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>>91673408
I-is that shota Kanan?
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>>91673478
I don't think you know what the first S in SS stands for.
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>>91673478
As sub or as dom?
Because I'm down for either arrangement but I'd like to know
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>>91673568 here
Disregard that post, I'm a dumbass.
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>>91671046
I really really really hope it's not anything about an already existing character. I want it to be about something we've never seen or heard about before.
No tie ins, no cameos, no reoccurring characters.
Just a new movie, with new characters and a new story.

Rogue One was great sure, but it was still something based on something we've already heard before.
And the Han Solo movie is probably going to have a fun story, but it's still about a character that already existed.

I want something completely new with this Anthology.
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>>91673607
Honestly that joke has been made so often I had to think about it for a second
Somebody at LucasFilm must have known what they were doing, giving the female villain who acts all creepily seductive to the young boy the initials SS. They just had to know
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>>91673521
yes
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>>91670938
It's so weird to hear them say Sith in the OT
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>>91673584
As a sub of course.
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>>91673632
They definetly did.
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>>91673631
They tried some completely new characters, and nearly two years on people are still falling over themselves to be the ones who "totally called" who the parents of Finn and Rey are, no matter how badly they maul those characters in the process
Besides, you can't really have a movie that has no tie-ins as part of an expanded and connected universe, it just doesn't work. Maybe, some time down the line, we'll get something like a heist movie set on Coruscant, but even that will have to tie in to some element of the story to give people grounding and to explain why it is this has the Star Wars name attached
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>>91673716
This faggot is obssessed with wolves for whatever reason
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>>91673719
Technically you could do an Old Republic movie with no established characters.
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>>91673771
We're all obsessed with something anon.
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>>91673802
I doubt Disney will touch on the Old Republic for years yet, if ever. Besides, you know if they even floated the idea there would be thousands of people screaming about how Revan is totally coming back and how the new movie is just going to be an adaptation of KoToR. And, as in your scenario, when that doesn't happen they'll take to the internet and do nothing but bitch about it for years afterwards
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>>91665541
He looks sleepy
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>>91673853
You're obsessed with having nothing to obsess over.
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INTENSIFY FOWAD FYAHPOWAH
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>>91666673
>>91666713
Fuck off /co/mblr. Two people of the same sex can just be friends
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>>91674021
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>>91673860
Oh I know it won't happen. I'm not even sure I'd want it to. I'm just saying it's an option for having no established characters.

Anything set within 30 years on either side of the current movies basically HAS to have established characters show up.
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>>91670260
DICE's lazyness
They didn't care if anyone actually thought they were "iconic".
They had the assets already done, so they used what they had.
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>>91673771
He's a furfag. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
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There's been a lot of discussion about the Grey Jedi recently, about defining the term and whether they could exst in current canon.
A consensus around here seems to be that if a Jedi uses Dark Side techniques, then by definition, they aren't a Jedi, which I generally agree with but I'm led to ask, what exactly are the Dark Side techniques?
I ask mostly because of that scene in TCW where Obi-Wan, Mace and Anakin interrogate Cad Bane by overpowering his mind definitely comes across as a Dark Side technique, but Mace and Obi Wan are certainly Jedi (Anakin less so).
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>>91674162
it's possible to be deeply interested in various types of animal (or one specific type) without it being a paraphilia, it's just that Filoni has the most boring normie spirit animal possible, more than even eagles, dragons, lions, tyrannosaurus, or great white sharks

of course we should be thankful at least that it's not a hedgehog
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>>91673719
I think it could work. With the right marketing.
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>>91674261
Mind reading isn't a Dark Side technique, that was just a deeply immoral thing to do that the Jedi felt they had to in order to save lives
Which exposes another problem with determining Force alignment. Is it the intent, or the technique? Because I'd argue its the intent and use that matters, but I also know that just opens the door to a dozen donut steels that use Force Lightning but are still totally Jedi because they think warm fluffy staticy thoughts to generate lightning
On the other hand, techniques are often shared or at least replicated across both sides. Dark Side users are just as capable of mind reading as their Light counterparts, they simply rely on it less
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>>91674261
I hate the idea of force powers/techniques/moves etc. The force isn't a video game mechanic
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>>91672295
Nope
I fucking love Mando stuff
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>>91674261
there's a supernatural, spiritual, hyper-consciousness thing about it, that would be difficult to put into concrete terms instead of abstracts, but Force users seem to instinctively "get" what is and isn't dark side, and if they can consciously avoid using the dark side to augment their powers, then whatever actions they commit, to whatever end, aren't dark side actions

but we can also assume that certain force powers flirt with or skirt upon the dark side without necessarily dragging one down to its depths, for example force choking, but it seems to require a conscious effort to control oneself, and that force lightning can only be drawn from an evil spiteful desire to inflict pain and suffering for one's own amusement or satisfaction, and this probably requires being steeped in dark side knowledge to even acquire, so you'd probably be long gone before seeing that around
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>>91673860

As it stands, all the ancient setting stuff works really well with the Legends branding, the idea that these events are to the Star Wars universe, what Arthurian poems are to the British. Kotor, Tales of the Jedi, Bane Trilogy; they all still exist, you can still enjoy them.
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>>91674438
Excellent point, I wonder if that connotation was something that helped with the decision to brand it as 'Legends' over something else
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I'm going to dump some cool Star Wars pictures, because why not?
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>>91674539
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>>91674562
This bad boy is my favorite Capital Ship, the Dreadnought class Heavy Cruiser.
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>>91674595
This one is my computer's desktop background
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>>91674539
>tfw this image will never be canon
although to be honest it was a disastrous fucking idea to have rebels be equipped with a shitload of Separatist surplus warships, absolute PR nightmare
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>>91674617
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>>91674595
I like the one they showed in the BF trailer. Always like the star destroyers but hated the bridge, so it was perfect to me. Also really liked the fighters in the comic based on the original scripts.
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Here is the best light freighter ever built. Corellia fags need not apply
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>>91674640
I think it would be fine if they were Uglies or they made a point of salvaging and converting.
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>>91674641
>>91674640
If you like this one, then you'll probably like this one too
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>>91674644
stubby little bridge
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>>91674644
The raider isn't a capital ship. More like a corvette.
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>>91674644
You mean the Raider? Yeah, one of the sexier designs FFG have put out over the years, I'm so glad its coming to canon and slightly sad it looks to be getting its shit wrecked over Jakku
I'm hoping it becomes Iden's own version of the Normandy over the course of the campaign, even just the chance to wander a set corridor and see how it changes between missions would be great
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>>91674700
a corvette is considered a capital ship for the sake of star wars discussion

>>91674644
>hated the ISD bridge
baka desu senpai

>>91674678
again I love the visuals but I hate the narrative
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>>91674678
>>91674700
Corvettes are capital ships, they are the smallest class of capital ship
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>>91674726
That isn't how it works. A corvette isn't a capital ship
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>>91674673
That would have been a neat story for Rebels, Phoenix Squadron hits up an Seppie ship graveyard to try and reactivate some of the battleships, only to realize that the damage is so extensive they could barely salvage one functional ship out of the dozen or so wrecks. And then the battle droids activate and conclusively kill that idea for good
Even just as a "and THAT'S why we don't try that plan" moment it would be neat
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>>91674704
>>91674700
>>91674690
>>91674726
I like sleek profiles. Always saw the massive bridge of a star destroyer as a liability. All the command staff in there and everything. Wouldn't it be better behind more armor?
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>>91674778
Agreed. But what's stopping them from taking the engines off of them, or power supplies, or armor plating?
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>>91674777
trips of falsehood
corvettes have always been considered capital ships in star wars just because they aren't irl doesn't make it not so here
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>>91674810
All those parts would have been nicked...AHEM I mean rightfully salvaged either by the GAR or the Empire afterwards
We know from Thrawn that the Empire was obsessed with collecting any and all reserves of metals and materiel that could be used in ship building as part of the Death Star project, if I was in charge of acquiring resources for that project the old CIS ship graveyards would be the first things I'd plunder. You'd be lucky if you found one bulkhead screwed to another by the time word got out the Empire was desperately interested in salvage from those old ships
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>>91674773
>>91674777
It is in Star Wars
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>>91674783
>wouldn't it be better behind armor
it IS armor
the only vessels in history not to have exposed obvious command areas (barely) are modern submarines and that's only because vision is totally useless underwater
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>>91674783
There's something to be said for the advantage of a commanding view, especially on something with such a long nose as an ISD
But they could have been a little more recessed into the hull like the Raider, or perhaps off set to one side or the other so as to prevent the obvious conclusion of just shooting for the window in the middle
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can anyone do a poe storytime? looks like readcomics.tv isnt working, don't know of that's temp or permanent
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>>91674931
It's made of armor. That doesn't mean it's truly armored. It's exposed and an obvious target. Instead of making that huge profile they could expand around the rear section in a more circular fashion. and make the whole thing relatively more armored.
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>>91674958
Would it have been bad to make that a "crow's nest" and have the actual bridge in the middle?
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WOOOOOM
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Holy shit at Poe Dameron #13

Mr. Bones is back.
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>>91673170
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>>91674378
>>91674432
Dark side techniques maybe isn't a great term then...
The only true Dark Side ability seems to be Lightning, which can probably be classed as a special case that can only be brought about by hatred.
The Dark Side itself seems to manifest in the form of its seductive nature. It offers quick solutions and a promise of faster and greater power. If you look at it through this lense, it's more of a philosophy than a set of abilities. I think that really rules out the possibility of Grey Jedi more, because the Dark Side wouldn't be a toolkit you can dip into when convenient and then be a nice guy the rest of the time, the Dark Side is an outlook and way of life which you need to commit to in order to reap the rewards of. Sans Lightning, it doesn't offer exclusive techniques, just quicker results in return for your humanity. The Dark Side shouldn't be look at as the abilities themselves but the means of attaining them.
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>>91674899
And now I'm out of cool Star Wars pictures
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>>91674783
There is a secondary bridge more or less in the center mass of the ship. In battle, many of the senior officers would be sent there just in case. Same thing on real naval ships.
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>>91675046
Nah, in the middle would have been a little too Star Trek, Star Wars is the kind of setting where space battles are observed through windows rather than display screens
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>>91674045
I don't think Jyn and cassian would work. I don't think any other ridiculous pairing would work. Krennic and Galen were friends. Those two were fucking.
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>>91675087
Ah. Well that actually makes it perfect with what >>91674958 said. Best of both worlds.
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>>91675064
>Mr Bones
>without Wendig
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>>91675064
The cameo everyone has been waiting for.

Mind posting a picture?
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>>91675218
I never noticed, but George has very fancy hair
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>>91675197
His body doesn't appear, but his personality is inserted into Nunzix.
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>>91675231
Yeah, he does
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>>91675218
>>91675243
>George will die in you lifetime
Better end myself now to keep that from happening
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>>91675262
>Millennium Falcon fanny pack
Why is everyone at Celebration so based?
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>>91675218
>>91675243
That poor shirt.
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>>91675281
Kill me, Pete
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>>91675290
It's the way he is sitting, and he probably hasnt adjusted it in a while

happens
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>>91675317
whoops, forgot I found one without the watermark
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>>91675243
>George and Filoni will never collaborate on their own spin-off trilogy as creative leads, with Gareth Edwards as the dedicated director
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What if the OT came out today and it was just as successful as back then? Would it be MCU 2.0 ?

>Fucking Gary Stu Luke stealing the spotlight from everyone!
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>>91665572
I was annoyed by the whole movie.

>oh no look guys the empire is back and its meaner than ever!!
>it's more inefficient, weaker, stupider, and more comedic than any appearance of the empire EVER in star wars fiction
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>>91675537
The sad fact is that the OT would not be anything special if released today.

Look at China, they only just got ANH in 2014, and it performed very mediocre.

Groundbreaking at the time, everything in the OT has since been done again, and again, and again, sometimes better (at least visually).
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>>91675584
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(Poe Dameron 13 spoilers)

Press F to pay respects.
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>>91675617
The Empire was way more effective and threatening this movie though. By a wide margin.
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>>91675649
Aw no way are you fucking kidding me dude?

I knew he was gonna die, but I didn't want it to happen
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>>91675649
Damnit why did I click that? That makes me very sad.

He was my favorite character.
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>>91665666

Satan has a point, he was a cunning warrior an a good friend.
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>>91675657

I see this posted a lot.

It's old.

It's not funny.

It's not even effective bait.

It's just a fucking lie.
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>>91675641
>not posting best version
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>>91675082
>>91674432
>>91674378
>>91674261
I'm not a huge lore guy and I don't know anything about the EU really, just the movies, TCW and Rebels and I really don't understand what the definition of a Grey Jedi is.

You can be a Jedi who doesn't strictly play by the rules, like Qui Gon. You can be a non-Jedi who's still Light Side aligned, like Ahsoka. You can be a neutral Force sensitive like the Bendu. What are the parameters for what defines a Grey Jedi and a something-else?

If we're defining Jedi as a member of the Jedi Order, you can theoretically be whatever the Hell you like and still be a Jedi. Anakin was defying the sacred tenet of possession and was a card carrying member of the Jedi until the Mace Window incident. You could be a secret Dark Side-Jedi if you pulled off a Sheev scheme and nobody finds out.
Can Ezra really ever be counted as a true Jedi if the Order is disbanded? He can carry on the traditions to the letter but if there's no Jedi Order can there be any Jedi?

And if there can be Jedi without the Order, then why can't there be Sith after the Prophecy?

As far as I can tell, the term Jedi is used too loosely to define either a member of the Jedi Order or a generally good person who wields the force and has a lightsaber, to accurately describe what a Grey Jedi is without people's interpretations causing argument.
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>>91675707
l-lewd
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>>91675707
Who is this strange and unfamiliar gentleman?
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>>91675748
Nah
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>>91675747
>>91675763
Hayden seemed a little awkward and reserved up there on the stage, but you could at least tell he's happy to be back.
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>>91675696
Stop playing the fool

Watch this video and tell me to my face that the Empire has ever been shown to kill so many, and be so effective.

Especially the TIE Pilots, but the regular Stormies too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsBNYcQF9ls

>>91675726
The thing about grey Jedi is the implication that they don't exclusively stick to the light side.

BY DEFINITION, that is what a Jedi is, they follow the light side. A Jedi using the dark side is like a Catholic using Buddist or Islamic prayers. It's completely inaccurate to the religion. A contradiction.

The idea of grey Jedi was just to justify videogame characters in the EU, like Kyle Katarn who could inexplicably use force lightning (literally magic hate bolts) and still be a Jedi with no consequences.
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>>91675794
Yeah. I think as celebration went on he got a little less awkward. I think some of it was just him not having been to one for a long time and not being used to the environment.

All the cheering and positive reception probably warmed him up to it
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>>91675805
>1000 rebels killed
>92000 imperials killed

Fuck off, fuckboy.
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>>91675852
Uh, you do realize that the rebels have tinier numbers right
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>>91675243
>Dave's vest-hat combo
It's the little things
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>>91675851
>that face
That's the look of someone who might be regretting returning to the limelight.
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>>91675725
Nice.
>ywn hug George
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>>91675852
Pretty sure most of those Imperial casualties are from the Death Star nuking the base.
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>>91675852
>taking shit out of context
That was only because of the two crashed Star Destroyers

Also what >>91675871 said. It was like David and Goliath, the little guy toppling the giant.

It was still way more Rebel deaths than they've ever shown before.
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>>91675871
Which makes it even stupider that they achieve a 90-1 ratio of casualties, retard.
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>>91675622
It's also because people's first real exposure to SW in the mainland were the prequels. That just leaves a bad taste. In retrospect it was obvious, even finding bootleg rips of AOTC from street dealers in the big cities was impossible even during 2005 when ROTS came out.
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>>91675871
Fucking this

people seem to forget the rebels are operating on the budget of two ships and a ham sandwich at times
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>>91675908
>That just leaves a bad taste
Actually the prequels were just better received.

Possibly for their more modern visuals, but also because of the stronger eastern influence so the movies may actually have been received better in Asia for cultural reasons.
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>>91675905
Are you perhaps, the same Empire-fag that was unironically justifying the destruction of Alderaan a week ago?
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>>91675898
No, at Endor way more Rebels died because of how many ships they lost, more than the Empire did, and that was with the Executor under specific orders from the Emperor to not attack Rebel capital ships as he literally didn't want to win too easily.

At Hoth the Rebels lost huge numbers of men and an entire base.

>just two star destroyers

You mean the ships much more powerful than any of the Rebel ships at Scariff that got blown up because a shitty Ackbar ripoff watched Spongebob and decided that taking a star destroyed and pushing it somewhere else would work, despite being a tactic that would fail immediately, based on the idiotic premise that these two STAR DESTROYERS didn't incinerate the entire Rebel fleet of light ships in a heartbeat?
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>>91675726
Grey Jedi is something that mostly springs from the old EU, and refers to people who tried to blend Jedi teaching with some use of the Dark Side of the Force in a bid to maintain balance. A lot of it is fan created, and what was 'canon' tended to be a few steps down the ladder
You have hit the nail on the head there, people use Jedi as short hand for "good aligned Force user with a lightsaber" when in reality it refers to someone who follows a very specific and constricting religious lifestyle. Although I'd disagree with your point about Anakin, he might have been officially a Jedi but he was still breaking one of their core tenets so he was really "only a Jedi until the truth comes out". Same for Palpatine, you can bluff about your alignment but you can't change what it is on the sheet to suit your lie.

And honestly, I'm not sure what the hell Ezra is, or what he was meant to be. He and Kanan regularly dance around the subject of whether or not they are actually Jedi, to the point I'd argue that in-universe they've both fallen victim to that tendency to just use Jedi as a generic blanket term for Force using, lightsaber swinging do-gooder .
Ultimately Grey Jedi is a pointless label and it would be far better for both fans and for the franchise as a whole to stop using 'Jedi' as a generic term and embrace Luke's words in the TLJ teaser: "Its so much bigger"
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How long is the Poe ongoing expected to go on? There can't be that much material to work with considering it is set so soon before The Force Awakens (I don't know the exact timeline but I'm assuming a few months tops).
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>>91675852
Without using Alderaan, go through any Star Wars movie and show me where the imperials killed that many people.
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>>91675955
I'm trying to look at it from a neutral point of view for both sides of the conflict.

I don't see Impfags or Rebfags, I see it as it is, a large militarized empire fighting a smaller insurgent force of reactionaries.

Somehow the smaller force inflicts lopsided casualties because writers think that rebels are invincible.
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>>91675961
>this faggot never saw 300
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You guys are retarded

it's tactics vs. brute force. It's not that fucking complicated.
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>>91676011
Empire confirmed good guys. The Rebels are genocidal Marxist psychopaths.
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>>91675955
>the Emperor wasn't evil
>he just had to obliterate an entire planet of people
>because there were a few Rebels there
God that was a rough conversation
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>>91676011
>only using the movies guys
>setting arbitrary canon gates
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>>91676023
But what you don't realize is that the Rebellion is still quite small at this point.

Most of the Rebellion DID get killed at Scariff.

The few survivors that made it back to Yavin IV had to immediately strike at the Death Star with what little crew and ships they had left.

Only then, after the Death Star was destroyed, did the Rebel Alliance begin to form in to a larger force that could start to match Imperial numbers in firefights.
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Rian on why Kylo Ren's scar looks so different in TLJ

https://twitter.com/rianjohnson/status/854760359097286656
>It was my decision to slightly adjust it, and that was my justification. It honestly looked goofy running straight up the bridge of his nose
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>>91676039
And the Empire is supposed to excel at both, yet gets its ass inexplicably kicked in Rogue One more than anywhere else.

Sure, it happens in ANH and ROTJ too, but in both those movies it's explained and justified in the movies themselves or through expanded content or novelizations.

ANH: Stormtroopers lose on the Death Star because Tarkin orders them to not kill the heroes. Death Star blown up by a literal Force miracle and Tarkin's own overconfidence.

ROTJ: Empire isn't whipped by Ewoks, they actually annihilate almost all of them and win on the ground. A-Wing hits the Executor bridge, backup bridges can't take over in time, it crashes. Couldn't destroy the Rebels because Palpatine ordered Piett not to. Death Star destroyed and Palpatine dead by his own overconfidence.

In Rogue One, the Empire loses just because.
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>>91676078
Original post: >>91675617
>it's more inefficient, weaker, stupider, and more comedic than any appearance of the empire EVER in star wars fiction

Yes, I'm sure SOMEWHERE in Star Wars fiction there's a time where the Empire was more effective. But not in the films. And if the other three OT films already go against your point, what's the point of bringing the EU into it?

So do you want to actually respond to my post rather than greentexting?
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>>91676096
Meh.

So this means we can blame JJ for the shitty scar right? Because I see what Rian means, it is kinda silly for it to go along his nose and for Kylo to still even have a nose.
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>>91675961
Star Destroyers are good, but even they need time to focus their firepower onto multiple small targets. And the Star Destroyer was crippled by an ion torpedo, allowing the Lightbringer to effectively shunt the one ISD into the other.
Just because the numbers are weighted in the Empire's favour doesn't mean they would win automatically. Shit, the fact that the Empire genuinely believes that "more numbers are better numbers" is one of their biggest downfalls and something the Rebels regularly exploit
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>>91676095
Then they shouldn't have killed so many Imperials.

Hell, I'd take 1000 casualties to 2000 even, but in any realistic scenario Rebel casualties would far outweigh Imp.
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>>91675985
I don't know but it sure is taking him a long ass time to find Lor San Tekka
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>>91676126
>cherrypicking.xls
How can you justify the A-wing taking out the Executor, but not the Hammerheads taking out the Star Destroyers in Rogue One?
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I got baited
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>>91676152
It was probably easier this way too. Let's Adam Driver act without needing a bunch of scar makeup covering his entire face.
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>>91676155
>crippled by an ion torpedo
>Lightbringer
>shunt one ISD into the other

Behold, you just summarized everything wrong with the Space Battle of Scariff.
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>>91675679
>>91675673
>>91675649
>it was lulo all along
fuck I thought it was gonna be Kare Kun, Snap Wexley's black girlfriend who didn't appear in the movie
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>>91676126
Scarif is the first major victory against the Empire.

Until this point, the Empire has slaughtered every single attack or rebel force, such as the Twi'leks on Ryloth.

The Rebels have only managed to win very small victories, as seen in Rebels.

But actual battles? Scarif is the first time the Rebels have ever managed to defeat so many enemies in pure combat, and escape to live another day. And even then they had to run the second they could, the Empire still technically "won" Scarif by sheer overwhelming numbers.
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>>91676162
>in any realistic scenario Rebel casualties would far outweigh Imp
That's simply impossible, as there are so few rebels comparitively. They managed to be scrappy and take out those Star Destroyers -- that alone is going to outnumber any Rebel losses no matter what.
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>>91676175
Because it flew into the unshielded bridge of a ship that could never have expected such an attack and was ordered to hold fire so they couldn't start shooting in time to take it down.

What the fuck is this meme of an A-Wing blew up the Executor? You make it sound like an A-Wing hyperspaced in and fought the Executor one to one and the A-Wing was victorious.
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>>91676204
There's a fakeout in the issue where it looks like she's about to die but is saved.
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>>91676023
>a large militarized empire fighting a smaller insurgent force of reactionaries.
>somehow the smaller force inflicts lopsided causalities
Well fuck my arse seven ways till Sunday anon, its almost like Lucas was writing this shit as the Vietnam War was happening or something. You know, that real world conflict where one of, if not THE, largest and most well equipped militaries in the world went up against a small force of insurgents and lost so hard they're still a little sensitive about the whole thing?
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>>91676223
So again, you're forgiving one ship changing the game in RotJ while not allowing the same to happen in Rogue One. The Star Destroyers didn't plan to get rammed into each other any more than they planned for a kamikaze A-wing.
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>>91676253
>its almost like Lucas was writing this shit as the Vietnam War was happening or something. You know, that real world conflict where one of, if not THE, largest and most well equipped militaries in the world went up against a small force of insurgents and lost so hard they're still a little sensitive about the whole thing?

Holy fucking shit. I am on your side and I never thought of it that way. That's actually really interesting
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>>91676204
Only Filoni has the power to kill waifus
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>>91676250
fucking lel, I'm glad she lives though, Snap had a hard life, but L'ulo was too cool for school I'm gonna miss the duros ;~;7
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>>91676052
Ford was at the celebration or is that an old pic of Indy 4?
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>>91676325
L'ulo black series when?
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>>91676344
He was there, somehow. Clearly didn't give a shit, but he was happy and unantagonistic. I still have no idea how they got him to come out.
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>>91676344
He was at Celebration
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>>91676306
Usually Filoni (and Lucas before him) are the only people who have the balls to kill off women, but I was surprised and shaken when Claudia Grey killed Jude in Lost Stars.

I thought liberals hated violence against women, why do my waifus keep dying?
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>>91676253
Yeah, but the North Vietnamese didn't lose ten men while the U.S. lost 90,000. That's a broken allegory.

>>91676264
The star destroyers could've easily destroyed the Hammerhead, though. There was no in-movie or out-of-movie justification for why they didn't just shoot it, and why the other destroyer didn't take maneuvers to get out of the other's way.

>>91676214
Scariff, they shouldn't have taken out the star destroyers. Let Jyn's little group do okay, but otherwise it's a Rebel massacre in the face of superior training, tactics, and numbers. The Imperial leadership is not incompetent or unprepared, they're resolved under fire and handling the situation with their trained tactical acumen. Sure, let Krennic and Tarkin have a rivalry, but that's it. The Rebels come in desperately trying to save Jyn and company, but get decimated by the two star destroyers in orbit. However, Jyn manages to make a desperate escape, handing over the plans to a small group of survivors who just barely escape. The last Rebel ship sacrifices itself to kamikaze ram a star destroyer and disable it temporarily, while the last Rebel ship just barely escapes. A dozen or two Imperial casualties, entire Rebel force but that one ship gone, end of movie.

That's not the perspective of an Impfag, Rebfag, whatever. It's the perspective of what would realistically happen if a highly-trained and superior-numbered force engaged a smaller and poorly-trained but determined force of insurgents in open, conventional warfare.
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>>91676223
Truthfully that scene has always been idiotic. Even on a modern warship, destroying the bridge would not founder the ship, nor would it serve to really interrupt its functions for more than a pittance as command devolved to the next officer on the appropriate deck.

On a ship as big as Executor, the freak A-wing crash should have done nothing but cost the life of Admiral Piett and a bunch of unnamed mooks.
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>>91676344
He was there for the first day.

Pretty much straight up said he didn't give a shit about the Han Solo movie, and then left.

Strange guy.
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>>91676191
What's wrong with "crippled by an ion torpedo"? Star Wars has shown, time and time again over a variety of media, that even dedicated warships are highly vulnerable to ion weapons that disrupt their electronic systems. That's just canon, has been since the Rebels used their ion cannon to open their escape route at Hoth
And equally what's wrong with using a heavily armored and well built ship like a Hammerhead cruiser as a battering ram? Its unorthodox sure, but its bloody effective. Guerilla and unorthodox tactics are not strictly the reserve of ground forces you realize, space battles aren't conducted on an equal playing field either
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>>91675885
>Be Hayden, be in Star Wars, have the time of my life.
>The movies come out and they did okay, but I enjoyed it who cares.
>A couple year later some faggot makes a video on how I ruined his childhood.
>Whatever, I own a farm now. I'm just gonna relax with my wife and kids.
>Go on the internet occasionally, people are saying they want me killed and how terrible of an actor I am.
>Well fuck you too, this is why I don't have social media
>Disney buys Star Wars and makes new movies
>I get called down to film some stuff for the next movie
>Sure why not.
>They ask me if I can attend the newest Star Wars convention to somewhat promote the new movie, but not really, just get the fans talking.
>Okay
>No one gives me death threats, but they keep asking me to repeat lines that George wrote.
>Fat chicks keep hugging and groping me, I'm married you landwhale.
> Some guy dressed up as my fucking sword wants a picture with me
>mfw
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WHY THE FUCK DO YOU FAGGOTS GET TO KEEP -YOUR- GENERAL

WHY DO MY GENERALS KEEP GETTING DELETED OR SENT TO /TRASH/

FUCK STAR WARS
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>>91676415
>Yeah, but the North Vietnamese didn't lose ten men while the U.S. lost 90,000.

You're moving fence posts anon. An allegory doesn't have to be 100% accurate, especially not in a fucking kids fantasy/sci-fi film series
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>>91676454
Because we have had comics and cartoons releasing regularly for the past 9 years, and you have not.

Sorry anon. May the Force be with you.
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>>91676434
>And equally what's wrong with using a heavily armored and well built ship like a Hammerhead cruiser as a battering ram? Its unorthodox sure, but its bloody effective.

Here's an experiment for you: go take a smart car, known for a ridiculously reinforced structure, and ram a freight train engine.
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>>91676454
What is your general?
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>>91676483
Oh, and make sure to do it while you're not wearing a seat belt, to simulate the hammerhead's bridge crew standing around when they hit a fucking battleship at flank speed.
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What is the name of the alien race with the white, skull/ghost-like faces? I think they first appeared in the background of the cantina in A New Hope. I can't remember any specific named characters of that race though, sorry.
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>>91676483
>>91676517
Yeah, but you have to take into account;

A) Fucking SPACE

B) Hammerhead having magical Sci-fi shielding tech up, and the Star Destroyer did not
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>>91676454
Because we have new content every week.

/swco/ is also the only place you can like George Lucas.
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>>91676415
>There was no in-movie or out-of-movie justification for why they didn't just shoot it
Except there was, in fact it was the crux of the entire fucking plan
The first Star Destroyer (lets call it SD-A for short), the one that got rammed, had been disabled by an ion attack. That's basically the Star Wars version of an EMP, just in case you don't know, so its scopes and engines were down meaning it could neither detect the Hammerhead nor maneuver against it.
Meanwhile, the Lightbringer was smart enough to fly around SD-A's far side, so as to prevent the second Star Destroyer (SD-B lets say) which was still online from engaging it because SD-B couldn't fire without risk of hitting SD-A
By the time both commanders could react, Lightbringer had made contact with SD-A and was busy ramming it into SD-B. Total surprise on account of a totally unorthodox and completely non-standard tactic
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>>91676415
>It's the perspective of what would realistically happen if a highly-trained and superior-numbered force engaged a smaller and poorly-trained but determined force of insurgents in open, conventional warfare
It's a fantasy movie, anon. Stop being autistic.
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>>91676415
>The star destroyers could've easily destroyed the Hammerhead, though. There was no in-movie or out-of-movie justification for why they didn't just shoot it, and why the other destroyer didn't take maneuvers to get out of the other's way
What part of "it was crippled by ion torpedoes" do you not understand?
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>>91676430
Why did he even go?

Is he trying to suck up to Disney so they don't do a Indy 5 without him?
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>>91675885
Or of someone who can't really smile on cue. I know I can't

It's not for everyone
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>>91676483
>>91676517
Here's an experiment for you: try to go to hyperspace.

Star Wars physics don't have to match the real world.
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>>91676532
I know the one you are talking

One appears in heir to the Jedi, they speak in mathematics.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Drusil_Bephorin

They're called Givin
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>>91676483
Apples to oranges, a Hammerhead cruiser is a military grade ship as well. If you want a correct allegory (I'm given to understand you prefer those) ram a slightly smaller train engine into a larger one. If the larger one is stationary and without power, it will be moved quite some distance by the smaller engine, but not without cost.
And what >>91676544 pointed out about shields taking the brunt of the initial impact
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>>91676483
Why would it have to be a smart car? The Hammerheads are literally made to do what they did. If you want to design a car purely for the purpose of knocking a train off the rails, you absolutely could.
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>>91676609
That's the one! Thanks!
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>>91676554
Probably got paid a lot to play nice for the 40th.

He also "promoted" the Han Solo movie by saying even though he wasn't interested in it, the new actor was good and that we should give him a chance.

Wouldn't be surprised if we never hear from him ever again now though.
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>>91675874
UGH HE'S CUTE
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>>91676554
Because they paid him
Harrison is only ever involved with Star Wars stuff for the money, and he's pretty open about that
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>>91676439
Thank you for this, anon.
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>>91676592
Did the crash happen in hyperspace, you stupid cunt?
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>>91676645
Well, at least he isn't talking shit about the movies like Hamill is
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>>91676645
That was a top 5 banter moment from the weekend. He straight up said he didn't give a shit about the movie.
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>>91676708
>I literally can't read
Hyperspace isn't real, anon. As I said: SW physics doesn't have to match real world physics.
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>>91675231
It's well-quaffed.
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>>91676592
>REEEEE WHY DOESNT REAL SCIENCE APPLY TO A UNIVERSE WHERE FORCE JESUS USED HIS POWER TO GO OLD TESTAMENT ON ALL THE OTHER WIZARDS
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>>91676711
Hamill didn't "talk shit" about the movies, please stop spreading this baseless lie
He said he wasn't convinced by the script for TFA, but was very surprised and happy to be wrong after seeing the finished product
Similar thing for his comments about Luke in TLJ, he said he disagreed about the characterization but after TFA he was happy to wait to be proven wrong again
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>>91676454
Fuck off pedo scum.
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>>91676752
Sheev built the Empire for entirely selfish reasons. And it isn't handing a win to the New Republic, it's making sure both sides go with him.
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>>91676618
"Slightly smaller?" A Hammerhead is significantly smaller than the TOP OF A STAR DESTROYER'S BRIDGE TOWER. The two ships are nowhere near of comparable mass!

>>91676544
Inertia still exists in space, dumb fuck. What do you think happens when a meteor hits the Earth, it just bounces off and knocks us out of orbit?

>>91676544
>>91676618
As for shields, if the Hammerhead can take literally no structural damage despite ramming a Star Destroyer at speed, then the infinitely stronger shields of the undamaged Star Destroyer should have caused the collision between the two destroyers to do no damage.

>>91676621
There is no canon lore to suggest a Hammerhead cruiser is designed to ram ships as its main method of attack. It's not a fucking Pokemon.
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>>91676483
They're in zero gravity you fucking dumbass.
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>The Contingency was a plan devised by Emperor Sheev Palpatine to ensure that the Galactic Empire would not outlive him.

I haven't read the new aftermath book yet, but why exactly would the emperor want this? That's essentially just handing a win to the New Republic.
Did the emperor have a reason to not want it to continue past his death, or was he just so self absorbed that if he couldn't have it, nobody could?
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>>91676731
So your argument is that you have no point, because magic can be used as an excuse for anything.

wew lad
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>>91676752
Well, the details are a spoiler for Aftermath but basically Palpatine could not stomach the thought of anyone, an Imperial successor or a reborn Republic, taking power after him so he set up the Contingency to just create havoc and destruction across the galaxy. Basically Palpatine's belief was that if he could not have the galaxy, then no one should.
So basically, the latter of your two theories
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>>91676822
>durr what is inertia guys?
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>>91676752
Sheev was a selfish as fuck Grade A mega cunt, but he was so convinced he would never die that he didn't think his contingency plan would ever happen.

But just in case, JUST IN CASE he was wrong and he died, he would make sure he burned everything to the ground.

It wasn't just the Empire, it was any significant planet or location of importance that could result in someone stealing his legacy. If he couldn't rule the Galaxy, NOBODY could.

He believed that he was the end result of the Rule of Two. If his Sith apprentice is the Chosen One, and the damn CHOSEN ONE got crippled, why should Sheev ever be replaced, right? Surely this means he can be the best of the best forever, and rule the Galaxy the way Bane intended?

That was Sheev's logic. That he was the final solution, and if he wasn't, then fuck it all.
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>>91676418
Technically, that's the case, if you follow EU lore.

There was a malfunction with the Executor's backup command bridge that prevented them from taking control. They tried to do some evasive maneuvers to open fire on the Rebel fleet against the Emperor's orders, but a systems error caused them to veer downward and hit the Death Star.

>>91676461
It's not a kids fantasy series, retard.

>>91676483
This.

I remember some admittedly autistic kinda guy on /tv/ did some math calculations comparing the mass of the Hammerhead to the star destroyer and their respective weights and speeds.

The Hammerhead in all circumstances would've crumpled up like a soda can if it hit the star destroyer.

>>91676551
Ion torpedoes don't work that way.

>>91676744
>REEEEE I'M DUMB AND DON'T WANNA THINK ABOUT DAT SCIENCE STUFFS GIVE ME MORE EXPLOSIONS AND LAZERSZ LOL
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>>91676483
>whatisatugboat.mkv
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>>91676823
>Blow up Jakku
>btfo the empire and the nuRepublic
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>>91676839
>What are shields against a ship who's shields and engines were just knocked out?
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>>91676831
Dude you're assuming their physics are the same as ours. It's dumb as fuck. You have no argument.

riddle me this: How does the force work? How can someone use a wave of their hand to bring an item across a room, or read someones mind?
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>>91676831
It's not magic, it's fucking sci-fi. Magic is how Luke beat the Death Star. This is small ships overpowering a big ship.
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>>91676439
That looks like one of those awkward school photos you take
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>>91676856
Seriously! I have no problem with the Rebels winning, Just make it look plausible, or make the physical cost actually fucking meaningful. Otherwise it's just tiresome.
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>>91676856
>It's not a kids fantasy series, retard.

Someone please post the quote where Lucas literally says it is a kids series
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>>91676863
Didn't realize I had the 4D Benis gif open in the reply box. welp
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>>91676812
>There is no canon lore to suggest a Hammerhead cruiser is designed to ram ships as its main method of attack
>What is Rogue One
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>>91676861
Are you so mentally retarded that you think a tug boat pushes boats by ramming them prow-on at speeds so high it sends standing men flying?

Tug boats SLOW DOWN before making contact, they don't SPEED UP. Do you want to take a guess what happens if they don't?
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>>91676823
His plan was to quickly end his Empire, get rid of the weak links, and cause a lot of destruction while getting the most important people and assets to the Unknown Regions to start again.
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>>91676864
The still-moving Star Destroyer still had its shields, dumbass.
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>>91676812
>There is no canon lore to suggest a Hammerhead cruiser is designed to ram ships as its main method of attack.
Rogue One now is this established lore, whether you like it or not.

Also, it's kinda in the name.
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>>91676812
What part of "hit by a absolute blizzard of EMP munitions" are you failing to understand?
The Star Destroyer was dead in the water, with no engines, no weapons and no shields. The Hammerhead, which is a stupidly overbuilt and heavily armored ship, then rammed the thickest part of its armour square into the side of the Star Destroyer, allowing for the Hammerhead to direct the course of the Star Destroyers drift
But you're just going to ignore this post, or talk about everything other than the core element that makes the plan work aren't you? Ion weapons have been a thing since ESB anon, or do you not accept that they worked there too?
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>>91676823
The latter, pretty much. The Galactic Empire was literally -his- Empire. Ruled by none other than himself. He built it and presided over it. If he died, then his Empire would have to die with him because to put it into the hands of others is to give away his power.
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>>91676941
Maybe a HUGE FUCKING STAR DESTROYER CRASHING INTO IT was enough to break through the shields
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Of course the alien is the one who dies.
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>>91676870
>>91676876
So your argument is 'whatever I say is true because of magic,' I got you. Hey, why not just have stormtroopers jump so high they can go into space and land on the Rebel ships? I mean, their physics are different, right?
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>>91676856
>Ion torpedoes don't work that way
Yes they do, that's how they've worked since ESB
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>>91676921
It's literally a suicide action that Ackbar has to request of a ship after thinking outside the box. Or was it ramming a bunch of other Imperial ships in all those scenes that don't exist?
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>>91676941
Yeah, but the active Star Destroyer got hit by the falling mass of something of equal mass i.e. an actual Star Destroyed that had been pushed into freefall towards Scarif
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>>91676946
>Also, it's kinda in the name.

This just in, Star Destroyers can blow up stars. Dunno why they ever bothered with the Suncrusher!
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>>91677008
And the Star Destroyer that got rammed by the Hammerhead is of much, much, much greater mass than the Hammerhead. Which means that its shields should not have been a factor.
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>>91676968
Can't say I'm surprised, he flew an A-Wing and we didn't even get a hit of one of those in TFA. Still, RIP
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>>91676898
Ok, I'll post the quotes where he says Jar Jar is the key to the Star Wars story and where he calls "Gungans" "Goongus".
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>>91676894
>make the physical cost actually fucking meaningful
They lost a majority of their people. The cost for the empire was basically nothing outside the Death Star plans; they couldn't give a shit about the 100k people that died though.
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>>91676969
No, you strawmanning douche. I'm saying that you can't assume their physics are the same as our own. They have a logical reason with the hammerhead literally being built to do just this, but you're covering your ears and screaming "BUT OUR PHYSICS". When you build a fucking star destroyer and prove this wouldn't work in a real scenario, then you can complain. It's entertainment, suspend your disbelief a bit you autistic dipstick
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>>91676925
>my space fantasy movie where a guy with a stick kills 20 guys with guns didn't accurately depict a tugboat-like battle scenario.mp4
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>>91676974
A planetary surface-to-space ion cannon, maybe, but not ion torpedoes.
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poe storytime when
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>>91676950
Do you not understand that there were two Star Destroyers, one of which was untouched? It still had its shields, because it wasn't fucking hit with ion munitions.

The thickest part of the armor, really? The thickest part? That's the part with the viewport into the bridge that you can see multiple shots, right?
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I wonder if Jake was able to watch the celebration wherever he's locked up.
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>>91676969
Keep spiraling into delusion, anon.
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in b4 the First Order is defeated in Episode IX by lack of pottery in their ship designs.
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>>91676856
>It's not a kids fantasy series, retard.

>It’s a film for 12-year-olds. This is what we stand for. You’re about to enter the real world. You’re moving away from your parents. You’re probably scared, you don’t know what’s going to happen. Here’s what you should pay attention to: Friendships, honesty, trust, doing the right thing. Living on the light side, avoiding the dark side.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/394542.stm

>He said the allegations said more about the people making the claims than they did about his film.

>"There is a group of fans for the films that doesn't like comic sidekicks. They want the films to be tough like Terminator, and they get very upset and opinionated about anything that has anything to do with being childlike.

>"The movies are for children but they don't want to admit that. In the first film they absolutely hated R2 and C3-PO. In the second film they didn't like Yoda and in the third one they hated the Ewoks... and now Jar Jar is getting accused of the same thing."

--

>"It was made for kids. It was made for twelve year olds, in fact." - John Dykstra July 1977

--

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/George-Lucas-Interview-Circa-April-1977/id/12234

>George Lucas does nothing to disguise the fact that Star Wars is for the schoolboy in us all. "I decided I wanted to make a children's movie, to go the Disney route," Lucas explains in his distinctively nervous manner. "Fox hates for me to say this, but Star Wars has always been intended as a young people's movie. While I set the audience for Graffiti at sixteen to eighteen, I set this one at fourteen and maybe even younger than that."

---

http://partners.nytimes.com/library/film/091276wars.html

>It's for young people. 'Graffiti' was for 16-year-olds; this is for 14-year-olds. Young people don't have a fantasy life anymore, not the way we did. All they've got is Kojak and Dirty Harry. There's all these kids running around wanting to be killer cops.
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>>91676967
I agree, a huge Star Destroyer crashing into a Star Destroyer should overwhelm the shields. I mean, but imagine if a tiny ship the size of like, a Hammerhead hit a Star Destroyer! Man, its shields wouldn't last a sec - oh.
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I'm fine with the Hammerhead crashing the star destroyer with no survivors, but pic related is still the most absurd thing I've ever seen
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>>91677045
I'm just going to ignore any arguments from now on that require me to stop believing basic newtonian concepts like inertia exist.
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>>91677104
George also said it again during Celebration. This thread went nuts (in a good way) -- one of the best moments of the weekend.
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>>91676856
>>91677104
>"Rather than do some angry, socially relevant film," he answered, "I realized there was another relevance that is even more important--dreams and fantasies, getting children to believe there is more to life than garbage and killing and all that real stuff like stealing hubcaps--that you could still sit and dream about exotic lands and strange creatures. Once I got into Star Wars, it struck me that we had lost all that--a whole generation was growing up without fairy tales. You just don't get them anymore, and that's the best stuff in the world--adventures in far-off lands. It's fun.

>"I wanted to do a modern fairy tale, a myth. One of the criteria of the mythical fairy-tale situation is an exotic, faraway land, but we've lost all the fairytale lands on this planet. Every one has disappeared. We no longer have the Mysterious East or treasure islands or going on strange adventures.

>"But there is a bigger, mysterious world in space that is more interesting than anything around here. We've just begun to take the first step and can say, 'Look! It goes on for a zillion miles out there.' You can go anywhere and land on any planet.” - George Lucas April 1977
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>>91677086
Is he really in prison?
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>>91677127
Here's a tip for your life:

If you ever find yourself using the phrase "newtonian concepts like inertia" in a discussion about a kid's movie, you're probably overthinking it.
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>>91677139
Yeah that is the first quote there. I added it
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>>91677127
>I think I'm smart and EVERYONE MUST KNOW I'M BETTER THAN TO ENJOY MEDIA FOR CHILDREN the post
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>>91677184
Oh nice, I just assumed it was the old pasta. Thanks, anon.
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>>91677121
I was fine with it up until JJ forgot that space is big and light can't travel faster than light AGAIN. It's just so dumb that it ruins the entire scene.
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>>91677104
>JarJar is the key to all of this.
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>>91676774
I don't know, he did compare TFA to the transformers movies.
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>>91677198
You're welcome!
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>>91677159

maybe a mental hospital.
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>>91677121
Even Pablo said this was stupid.
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>>91677169
>>91677192
Newtonian physics are literally an elementary school concept, and I'm from fucking burgerland. Dunno what to tell you if you find those too complicated to understand.

And hey, I'm not the one trying to defend the scene as believable. But by all means, fall back on the 'it's for kids, it doesn't have to make sense' argument.
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>>91677105
>>91677081
Fore armour is always where the armour is thickest, on account of that bit being pointed towards the enemy and such. Just because its got a viewport cut in it doesn't mean its weak. Or do you think that bunkers can just fall down in a stiff breeze on account of a view slit being part of the structure?
And the second Star Destroyer is irrelevant, the Lightbringer flanked around the disabled SD's side as as to begin the ramming maneuver while also using the disabled Star Destroyer as a shield from any potential fire from the still active Star Destroyer
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>>91677159
Mental hospital. He is diagnosed schizophrenic.
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>>91677231
I don't think hayden would appreciate him hurting shmi
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>>91677231
Jesus, what a shit show.
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>>91677104
>>91677147
>IM GEORGE LUCAS AND I KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT STAR WARS DESPITE SAYING JAR JAR IS THE MOST IMPORTANT CHARACTER IN THE FRANCHISE AND THAT I THOUGHT MY MOVIE WOULD SUCK AND I LITERALLY PLACED BETS AGAINST IT BACK IN 1977 BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS A PIECE OF SHIT
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>>91676410
The most feminist thing to do about fictional women is to kill them the same as you would kill men anon.
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>>91677275

>JUST RACE MY POD UP
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>>91677246
>I'm from fucking burgerland
So am I? I'm a fucking engineer and I love the fuck out of star wars. I'd bet a lot of money I understand physics far better than you

You sound like an autistic douche who can't enjoy anything and has to ruin it for everyone. I'd say you're no fun at parties, but I doubt you've ever been to one
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>>91676126
>In Rogue One, the Empire loses just because.
>What is surprise attack
And the Empire doesn't lose in that battle.
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>>91677121
I like big dumb superweapons. I hope they make more in the future.
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>>91677231
Jesus Christ. This is what the "fans" did to him.
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http://www.starwars.com/databank/hammerhead-corvette

>Receiving its name thanks to a time-honored design that stretches back centuries, the Hammerhead Corvette is a powerful transport. While not flashy, this starship has a strong body, forceful engines, and heavy weaponry; Princess Leia Organa once delivered a trio of Hammerhead Corvettes to the Phoenix Squadron rebels on Lothal, adding some much-needed craft to the rebel fleet. Indeed, they were the key to the Alliance's victory at the Battle of Scarif, as a Hammerhead Corvette was used to drive a Star Destroyer into Scarif's shield generator. This allowed rebels on the surface to successfully beam the Death Star plans back to the Rebellion.

>While not flashy, this starship has a strong body, forceful engines, and heavy weaponry

>While not flashy, this starship has a strong body, forceful engines

>a strong body, forceful engines
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>>91677121
It could have worked if they put a little more thought into it and had some First Order not-Interdictors hanging about in space to help rip open a hyperspace tunnel for the main beam to go through
And the refracting is still dumb, probably would have been better if they'd just fired missiles or something
I appreciate the attempt to take the nuclear weapons metaphor reading of the Death Star (something reinforced by Rogue One) and taking it to its logical conclusion by having Starkiller basically be a space laser ICBM but its probably one of the dumbest super weapons in Star Wars. And that is saying something
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>>91677210
>>91677276
Wow not only are you acting like a child, but you have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>91677246
This is a franchise where faster than light travel is possible. Where cloning is trivial and aided by sped up aging. Where moon-sized space stations can travel around with ease. Where there are swords made out of lasers.

And you're worried about a small ship hurting a bigger ship?
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>>91677301
>he said 'pod race,' I heard 'race riot'

>>91677308
I'm sure you do, but if you're saying inertia is somehow a concept with no place in a children's film, than I can only assume you're just saying whatever to "win." It's a dumb scene, so was the one in RotJ, but it doesn't exactly ruin the experience.
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>>91677324
Not really. He has legit schizophrenia, which would've shown up regardless.
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>>91677391
I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about, considering your evidence that Star Wars is and always will be a kids series is based on the ramblings of a washed up director who regrets selling his money maker off to even worse money makers.
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>>91677301
He looks more like pre-suit Darth Vader than Hayden does.
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>>91677358
>mentions of ramming, tugging, drydock ship pushing: 0

Lots of ships have 'a strong body.' That's why I used the smart car comparison in the first place (very structurally sound relative to their laughable size).
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>>91677246
Watch a video of a space shuttle launch.

Then watch the Millennium Falcon taking off.

Does it look like Newtonian physics matter AT ALL in the Star Wars universe?
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>>91676856
>Ion torpedoes don't work that way.
>Raddus: "That Star Destroyer's been disabled!"
>Star Destroyer crew running on minimal power from being hit

Are you trolling?
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>tfw the Warhammer idea would've been a better superweapon

it would've been just different enough to not be a complete rehash of the Death Star, and if the First Order had a shipyard building several of them, attacking that could've been the big climactic battle scene instead of a planet with a hyperdrive and a MIRV laser.
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>>91677475
You can't compare a smart car to a navy vessel in a sci fi series for kids, you idiot
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>>91677551
I can compare a small, sturdy object hitting a incredibly more massive object just fine.
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>>91677456
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>>91677549
Definitely more unique and cool-looking than the Mega Star.
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>>91677564
>a whole bunch of posts proving me wrong have been posted
>better respond to this one instead
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>>91677549
That's fucking cool
>Got replaced by Death Star III

Cool trash planet in concept art
>Got turned into Tatooine II

I really am not a fan of JJ
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>>91677549
>The RESISTANCE war hammer
Oh fuck

Could we have seen a totally different kind of resistance in the old drafts? That sounds awfully aggressive for the resistance we see in Ep7
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>>91677614
None of this is JJ's fault. You really need to understand that these are all Kathleen Kennedy's decisions.
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>>91677549
Honestly even some fucked up hybrid of the two, with the base being the launch unit for these colossal planet cracker missiles would have made more sense and been more interesting
And it would have made the whole MIRV metaphor work a lot better
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>>91677708
You really need to understand that these decisions aren't made by a single person.
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>>91677602
Zero have been, actually.
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>>91677708
Do you have an ounce of proof of that?
Because the tatooine designs for Jakku only start showing up after JJ got onboard, and Kathleen was involved before that
Face facts, unlike the other Star Wars movies there isn't any one person you can point to who fucked up the things that went wrong. Shit I'd argue half the reason TFA came out the way it did was because there were so many hands on the rudder it devolved into a formless mess driven forward by nostalgia
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>>91677708
So what did the director do?
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>>91677708
no they're not. JJ decided these things when he reworked the plot after firing Arndt. KK just signs the checks
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>>91677778
Whatever you say.

>>91677477
>>91677434

There's at least two
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>>91677777
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>>91677686
A lot of early leaks suggested that Leia had become a violent extremist and a secondary villain in the film who wanted to kill Rey and Finn. Seems to line up with that ship. Guess they decided that making Leia and the new Rebels just as bad as the First Order was going too far. Then again, Rogue One plays with that notion a lot by having the Rebels doing shit like suicide bombing, torturing prisoners, and killing civilians to keep them quiet. And with Luke seemingly turning his back on the Jedi and light side in TLJ it seems like they haven't abandoned the thought entirely.
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>>91677896
>Tfw one of my earliest episode 7 theories was that Leia would go evil

Breaks my heart that I never got to see that
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>>91677896
I think Leia willingly using a massive invasion ship like that would have been too far, but I'm glad they're going more morally grey. One of my big issues with TFA is no one seems to stop and think (well, shit, in general that's a huge problem) about how blatantly illegal every single thing the Resistance does is, and how right the First Order are to want Leia and her band of wannabe heroes crushed or in chains to answer for their bullshit
Hopefully the sequels will actually build a little on that, remind us that the Resistance is a bunch of gloryhounds raised on the war stories of their Rebel parents following the lead of a washed up ex-Senator seeking the easy glory of her wartime days
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>>91677935
It's interesting to me that the stories always toyed with the idea of Luke turning to the dark side when Leia being a dark sider would make much more sense for her character.
>>
What the fuck is the goal of the Resistance now that the New Republic is dead?
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>>91677456
>I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about,
Ah, the classic "No u" response. The sign of someone who knows they're losing.

>considering your evidence that Star Wars is and always will be a kids series is based on the ramblings of a washed up director
No, my evidence is multiple consistent statements from George Lucas and one from the effects lead on ANH. And most of the George statements are from 1977. It's always been the intent. You can meme hating him all you want but that doesn't change the facts.

> who regrets selling his money maker off to even worse money makers.
George wasn't in it for the money.
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>>91677935
I think it would have been very interesting if there was a bit of role reversal where instead of the First Order having a planet killing super weapon it was the Resistance. Who knows? Maybe that'll still happen in Episode 9 and Luke and Rey and whoever else has to stop them. The natural end point to this war from my perspective is mutually assured destruction because both sides are entrenched in wanting vengeance and retribution.


>>91678137
A huge underlying theme of the ST that I've noticed is exactly what you just said basically. The kids and grandkids of people who fought for or against the Empire are now becoming extremists playing at war to live up to all the stories they grew up with. All the First Order officers look like teenagers, and I'm confident that's intentional.
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>>91677564
And you're an idiot for trying to apply real life logic in Star Wars. A series which breaks physics on a daily basis. Where is your out roar about hyperspace? Or cluttered and chaotic asteroid fields? Or lack of reentry? Or the aerodynamics of a TIE fighter or X-Wing? Sound in space? Starkiller base?
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>>91677102
Wow
That looks pretty darn badass
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>>91677829
1.) Millennium Falcon uses an arbitrarily more advanced form of power generation combined with repulsor technology. It's not a chemical rocket. Nothing the Falcon does taking off violates Newtonian physics.

2.) This one is just saying 'well because this internally-consistent unrealistic thing is possible, ANY unrealistic thing should be arbitrarily possible, with no need for any form of consistency at all!' This is an old fallacy. If the film were a cartoon, like say Genndy Wars, I'd concede the point, since toon physics are in constant effect on pretty much every level.

The reason I didn't reply to these was because they're fucking asinine and one literally isn't an argument.
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>>91677549
Man do I wish it was the New Republic that had the super weapon this time. Literally anything from the concepts of TFA is better than the finished product.
And because of that the entire Sequel Trilogy suffers.

I hope JJ loses sleep over how he ruined an entire trilogy.
Honestly, they should have just let him do an Anthology instead.
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>>91678373
But then you did.
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>>91678194
As the name implies, they do their best to resist the First Order and whatever they plan to do next
Which highlights another issue with TFA, the Resistance is a fucking stupid title that reeks of egotism and projection
On whose behalf are the Resistance resisting? Who are they seeking to liberate? For all we know the First Order's worlds are places like Vardos that see the benefits of a strong regime and welcomed the not-Empire. Shit, just judging from the aesthetic I'd say a lot of the First Order was influence and grew from places like Vardos
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>>91678417
I really really really like the design of Vardos
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>>91678260
Yeah, there is a distinct theme of "sins of the father being passed onto the son" about the whole affair. Shit, look at Hux, he looks barely 30 but he's still far and away the oldest FO officer we saw. And its clear from Aftermath that Brendol clearly takes after dear old dad in a lot of ways, especially in terms of how they approached training soldiers
Its a really neat theme that I hope they build on in TLJ, especially now that Rey is about to meet one of these storied heroes and realize he isn't all he's cracked up to be
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>>91678448
>>91678417
>Red leaves that bleed when they fall into water
It's going to be a fun setting, hopefully beyond BF2 as well.
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>>91678271
>what is consistency in fantasy
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>>91678416
Hey, I'm nothing if not a pedantic pain in the ass.
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>JJ and his fucking mystery box

I hope it eats at him that he cut a Carrie Fisher scene just to keep the audience in the dark about what the fuck was even going on in the galaxy, politically.
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>>91678448
Its like Helghast on steroids, I can't wait to see how the campaign mission there plays out. My hope is that's when Iden turns against the Sentinel robot that we saw in the trailer, as she realizes the Emperor was absolutely bug fuck but that Vardos is physical proof that the Empire can and has done good for people, and that its worth fighting
I don't know, guess I'm just trying to pre-emptively reason away the "redemption" line from the website. I really want Iden to stay Imp, it would be neat if she was ordered to attack her home planet and decided to redeem herself by defying the pointlessly destructive orders of the Contingency
>>
Someone make a new thread please

>>91678609
The upside is that we got Claudia's Bloodline book which was fantastic and shit on whatever JJ could have done
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>>91678655
She could turn against Palpatine, but like Ciena Ree, still loyal to her dream of the Empire, where they're doing more good than harm
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>>91678490
I love that even the Sheev statues are in red, its very cool
>>91678609
Yep. I had to watch the movie twice to confirm that it wasn't actually Coruscant they'd just blown up
JJ's mystery box fixation is the chief reason TFA is being remembered so poorly right now. Even basic shit like "what was Leia's connection to the New Republic?" or "what was the ultimate plan of the Resistance?" took way too long to tease out, its fucking dumb
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>>91678752
>>91678752
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