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rebels sux

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Post yfw the canon cannon isn't actually canon

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I'm going to miss Kanan

Is S3 any good? I haven't watched it yet.

>>91634273
Damn, I thought it was a preview of like, a grenade launcher for Battlefront or something.

>>91634279
ezra should die instead T B H

>>91634245
You sux.

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he's right, you know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qLXcl5uCK0

Rebels is SHIT

SHIT

Glad its ending

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Here is the updated Canon Guide. It should include every 2017 (and Celebration) announcement included. Please tell me if I am missing something!

The Short Stories take up a lot of space, but that can be easily fixed and we'll cross any problems when we get to them.

I removed all fan-made posters, and fixed any errors in the last version too. The Canon Guide in the OP will be updated soon.

I am also curious about what the hot topics are for people post-celebration, so I made a poll:

>What are you most hyped for?
http://www.strawpoll.me/12770730
http://www.strawpoll.me/12770730
http://www.strawpoll.me/12770730

>>91634307
The ST is not canon because Mark doesn't like it. Eat it Pablo.

>>91634196
>fake The Last Jedi trailer again

God dammit, OP.

>>91634446
>>91634196
LEL

fuck posted this in the last thread before realizing we made a new one

>>91633892
eugh the Binary Sunset at the end of RotS is so fake looking. I know George filmed that scene back in 2002 when they were in the desert cuz he knew he wouldn't want to go back for 5 second shot but then in the making of Revenge of the Sith book it says he decided to reshoot it on green screen. Was the original completely out of focus or something? Or the lens cap on?

Honestly I think the reason why people always hark on the CGI of II and III in particular is because the early 1080p digital cameras Lucas used made them look out of place because of how the way a digital camera processes light (especially early ones) is different from film cameras, so all of the CGI artists weren't able to make the blending of CGI and real in-camera stuff look natural.

Did they say if there is armor customization in Battlefront 2? I want Scarif armor

>>91634337
Also pretty hyped for Star Wars Land, myself.

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>>91634446
>know that someone rused us with a fake
>went back to an older OP to avoid this
>didn't realize the last OP was corrected and the one I copied had the fake

>>91634514
the dark ride sounds great, especially if the "hide from AT-ATs halfway through" part is true, but the falcon ride sounds like shit

>>91634548
>OP tries to avoid the ruse but ruses himself
Whoever started this has been getting some good mileage out of it

>>91634196
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzpBS9cC83U

PLAGUEIS CONFIRMED?????

>>91634337
Thanks cAnon
Crap, i'm really behind in the books

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>>91634484
>eugh the Binary Sunset at the end of RotS is so fake looking.
I disagree. Only one shot looks bad and it's not the one in that that thumbnail (or the one in my picture, this one looks great).

>>91634484
>is because the early 1080p digital cameras Lucas used made them look out of place because of how the way a digital camera processes light (especially early ones) is different from film cameras, so all of the CGI artists weren't able to make the blending of CGI and real in-camera stuff look natural.
Pseud detected. This was only true of AOTC that used an 8-bit color depth camera. ROTS used a 10-bit camera that didn't give the CG artists any issues.

>>91634484
>know George filmed that scene back in 2002 when they were in the desert cuz he knew he wouldn't want to go back for 5 second shot but then in the making of Revenge of the Sith book it says he decided to reshoot it on green screen. Was the original completely out of focus or something? Or the lens cap on?
ROTS was rewritten many, many times. The circumstances probably changed, story wise.

That, or he shot the scene and planned to composite Ewan in later since I don't think Ewan went to Tunisia for AOTC, but that didn't end up working.

>>91634634
>or the one in my picture, this one looks great

looks like a highschool digital editing project

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>>91634512
Shoretrooper is great (not quite as good as Scout Trooper armor imo but still very good), I hope it's playable outside of only Scarif.

>>91634196
Kanan is cute but he belongs with Ezra and Janus Kasmir

>mfw all of the problems with TFA script are because JJ and Kasdan both went to Bob Iger and told him they needed at least another year in order to figure out how to get the story right with all of the elements in it and characters that needed to have the right amount of screen time that they couldn't figure out how to navigate (both old and new) but Iger told them he'd give them 6 more months and thats it

It's why instead of May it was released in December and set that release precedent and also why shit like R2 turning on at the end is completely random and unexplained.

he talks about it here with Michael Arndt:
http://ew.com/article/2015/12/20/jj-abrams-answers-burning-question-about-r2-d2-star-wars-force-awakens/

I'll look for the source on the Bob Iger thing (I thought it was in that article but I guess not) and post it when I find it

>>91634663
Nope.

>>91634634
aright well it applies more to Attack of the Clones anyway since that one's always felt like the most criticized for the amount of unnecessary CG that hasn't aged well (the CGI in ROTS has definitely aged really well, and not just compared to the first two films)

and wtf does
>Pseud detected
mean

>>91634337
Anthology hasn't been the official name for the spinoff movies for quite a while. And even when it is used for it, all spinoffs going forward are going to be the same.

I'd recommend removing the purple grouping of the "anthology" movies

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>>91634337
I'm excited for the Luke book, looks like you might've forgotten it

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>>91634663
more like high school painting class amirite

>>91634634
I dunno man especially considering it's the final frame of the trilogy and meant to be compared to the Binary Sunset in A New Hope, it looks really fake and almost like it was done last minute.

>>91634698
Is this your best counterargument for him? "nope"?

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ducktroopers have been saved

>>91634781
>it's the final frame of the trilogy
It's not though.

Why shitpost?

>it looks really fake
What about it looks fake?

>>91634337
>http://www.strawpoll.me/12770730
Didn't knew that there was going to be a new Vader comic, when does it start? Who is making it?

>>91634774
>using a matte painting in a 35 year old film as a counterargument when someone says the green screen in the final shot of a 12 year old film looks poorly done.

u sure got him lmao

>>91634769
Is there a list of every announcement at swc?

>>91634337
The text for

Secondary Ongoing Series

and

"Join the Resistance"

is a little hard to read due to the color. I'd recommend either changing it or putting duplicate text behind it in black and slightly larger to make a "border" of sorts to make it easier to read

>>91634769
Is that supposed to be Threepio?

>>91634337
was Kanan ever going to be ongoing, i thought it was always gonna be 12 issues

>>91634824
Are you still going to use that argument in 20 years when both films are really old?

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I HATE NEW STAR WARS REEEEEEEEEE

Luke giving up and living in a cave is directly contrary to his core characteristics of hope and optimism. Moreover, the darkness ascendant in Disney Wars undermines Anakin's struggles and sacrifice in the earlier movies. Making Luke hide in a cave to make Snoke seem like more of a threat shits all over Luke and Anakin.

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>>91634824
>final shot
But that's not the final shot?

Why are you shitposting?

>Join the Resistance

>kids vs kid kidnappers played for laughs

wait seriously?

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>>91634634
I just noticed the faint halo around the two and the grain that's in the background but not on them.

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>>91634824
dude so realistic and immersive lmao

fuck cgi so fake xD

>>91634337
BASED cANON!

Looks great man. Glad my ideas helped. Also I didn't know about the Droid Awakens. Gonna have to look into that.

>>91634891
>Luke giving up and living in a cave is directly contrary to his core characteristics of hope and optimism

he did something that helped lead to the jedi massacre and is obviously guilty as fuck about it

>>91634903
>grain
you played yourself

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>>91634806
how the fuck is an opinion a shitpost? cuz you disagree with it?

>what about it looks fake
it looks like someone applied several shitty instagram filters to it. You really think the bottom one looks better than the top? You think it looks as real?

>>91634891

I don't think there's a single person who isn't retarded or in the middle of a mid life crisis who'd disagree with you.

>>91634337
Oh shoot you forgot Vader Down one shot.

Also for the comics it might help to do like:

>Darth Vader
>26 issues, 1 annual

Or whatever the count is.

>>91634891
watch the movie first to find out why

>>91634935

The justification the film uses doesn't change the fact that it's a bad premise to begin with.

>>91634981
no my opinion is already formed. I've seen enough in the teaser trailer to know everything that happens in the movie.

>>91634946
Oh yeah, they were shot on digital. I guess that makes it noise

>>91634986
>doesn't change the fact that it's a bad premise to begin with

I don't want to see Lukes scooby doo team of jedi teenagers with atittude and neither should you

its star WARS

>>91634758
Alright. Good point, considering I foresee a lot more than just three of them

>>91634769
Shit yeah, I'll get that in there in the next update

>>91634633
No problem!

>>91634514
I actually haven't seen anything on that yet

>>91634512
Yes, armor customization is confirmed, but they've been vague on the details.

They said that there is customization, but things like Snowtroopers on Hoth, and Phase I Clones on Kamino, will be the standard designs for those locations.

But I am guessing you can upgrade upwards from there. Probably just slight variant.

Remember classes are confirmed, so Shoretroopers are probably just a specialist Class on the Scarif map.

>>91634865
IIRC it was initially announced as an ongoing, and then they said they were cutting it short after the first volume, before backtracking and saying they were finishing the second volume too.

>>91634853
Yeah, I noticed after posting, I'll change the colors for those.

>>91634814
Charles Soule is making it, it's set right after ROTS.

>>91634929
Thanks man.

Droid Awakens is just a single issue compiling three of those droid mini-comics that were previously released in other comics. Nothing too exciting, you might have even read all the stories.

>>91634970
I wasn't sure if I should include crossovers or not. I initially had Vader's Down, but removed it. But if it make things clearer, I'll add Vader Down (and Screaming Citadel) back.

And yeah, I'll start including the issue counts too, that's useful.

>>91634954
>Top frame
>Sunset, but the suns are still fully visible in the air
>dude no sunlight on luke or the house lmao xD

>>91634954
>it looks like someone applied several shitty instagram filters to it. You really think the bottom one looks better than the top? You think it looks as real?
I truly do, yes.

>instagram filters
ok bud
The top one's color scheme looks less natural.

>>91634954
>it looks like someone applied several shitty instagram filters to it.
No, it looks like a real life vibrant sunset.

>You really think the bottom one looks better than the top? You think it looks as real?
Both look really good and both look real

>>91635006

Then why do you want to see Abrams's group of scooby doo teenagers?

>>91635002
...noise that is very apparent on Beru's face.

>>91635063
because I hate Jedishit

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>>91634946
okay he mixed up film grain and digital noise, that doesn't void his point that you can clearly notice the poor compositing done with how out of place they look. Do you not see the lack of noise on the two of them in comparison to the background?

>>91635075

Then it's irrelevant, because now this is the Rey show where jedishit happens instantly and everyone else is secondary.

>>91635075
Go back to bed, Karen.

>>91635102
Are you blind??
He talked about the noise not being on the actors. Look at Beru's face!
Look at it!
NOISE

>>91634307
And now I am suerp sad

>>91635071
fucking obviously there would be some because they had to shoot the two of them on a camera. He's saying the amount of noise in the BACKGROUND isn't present on the two of them.
>>91635123
I feel like you're just trolling at this point because you're just trying to pick apart our arguments with the minutiae of what we're saying (like disregarding him for mixing up film grain and digital noise) rather than having actual counterarguments

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>>91634634
>>91635102
Had to switch from mobile to computer for this,
I think I see the problem now

>>91635006
But Young Jedi Knights was better than TFA.

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A normie friend just sent me this

The Last Jedi is using jedi in plural

>>91635102
>>91635123

I think you both fucked up.

The issue isn't noise, it's shitty set lighting. Owen, Beru, and Baby Luke all have a rim light on them from behind. But you can tell that light isn't traveling through the air behind them the way it would if they were physically on set. The effect is subtle and barely noticeable, if you do a lot of CG effects and lighting and rendering it's a bit more visible to you.

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>>91635174
>He's saying the amount of noise in the BACKGROUND isn't present on the two of them.
Do you not know how cameras work?
There is going to be grain/noise in a background when the focus it the foreground.

>I think you're just trolling
touche

>>91634337
https://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Front-Daniel-Wallace/dp/1785652141

Wait, what is this? is there any info out there about it?

>>91635194
>The effect is subtle and barely noticeable,
Then who gives a shit?

If we're sailing into
>but your brain did
territory, let me know right now so I get abandon thread.

>>91635102
>>91635194

To go into a bit more depth, when you want to green and bluescreen you light the screens separate from the actors, because the light will bounce and everything may wind up green tinged. It'll get rid of your tint, but it becomes kind of obvious you needed to throw a rim light to avoid a colored tint.

That light doesn't match the light that'd "really" be behind them if they were in the desert, at least to me. There's a light, but it comes off as being a different color and warmth.

>>91635192
It's also been confirmed that it's singular and the plural in other countries is a mistake.

>>91635028
Ah bummer on Droid Awakens, but I didn't like those shorts a lot.

And you should definitely include the crossovers. gotta keep everything.

>>91634954
There is way too much moisture in the air in that second shot
The suns are way too dim in the first one

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>>91635039
>>91635059
but the top one IS natural

I have a question. Which one in pic related looks more real, right or left? I'm curious because Rogue One seems to be loved here, but it also wasn't directed by Lucas so thus it's allowed by you guys to be flawed.

You both said the 2005 green screen sunset looks just as real as the 1977 location one, with the first guy saying he thinks the one shot on location looks somehow less natural than the one literally done on computers. So let's see if that applies to CGI Tarkin.

>really want to play some new Star Wars videogames
>only options are shitty mobile cashgrab games
>the only shitty mobile Star Wars game that looked like any fun was shutdown

I miss Star Wars vidya

>>91635283
You now realize that Tatooine has two different hued suns and that means the lighting even in ANH was objectively incorrect. If anything ROTS is closer since they could better simulate the otherworldly lighting conditions.

I trust this settles that matter.

>>91635322
read my above post

Rey is a Solo and Ben is a Skywalker

>>91635357
or nah

>>91634196
>trailer for season 4 pushing an Ezra/Sabine pairing

Disgusting. If this is truly the route Rebels was going to take, then it's best it dies.

>>91635272

Filmmaking is made or broken on things that the eye barely notices, building up one after another until things either look ridiculous or believable.

This goes double for when CG or composits are involved because when you render out half a dozen different layers and need to recombine them after there are a number of ways it can go wrong. The more that's not just plunking down a camera and going for it you add the more ways it can go wrong.

>>91635322

The skin textures aren't quite right in a few shots. But more generally the entire thing isn't quite right conceptually.

Peter Cushings hair wasn't that dark. His eyes weren't so baggy. His skin didn't have quite so many spots on it. He's sure as fuck not four inches taller than he was when he was alive.

Rogue One's Tarkin is a caricature of the original. For the most part it's not a question of is the tech there so much as they just went in a fundamentally wrong direction.

>>91635322
>but it also wasn't directed by Lucas so thus it's allowed by you guys to be flawed.
So what are my options here?
What am I allowed to think looks good?

>>91635322
Make these a gif and suddenly the right one looks weird as fuck

How old were you when you grew out of discussing Star Wars?

I started yesterday

>>91635347
Anon...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kae-JjbLsgA

>>91635394
see
>>91635356

>>91635411
They over-acted his face, it happens sometimes with CGI

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>>91634676
>KanEzra shipper
>I am not alone

Oh thank the Maker for you.

>>91635356

There's a difference between what might logically be there, what's viable, and what's actually good looking to the human eye. Doing a full lighting setup like that would be impractical at best, especially in the 70's. It also wouldn't quite look right since the audience has an expectation for what things look like and having it be subtly off doesn't work.

>>91635283
the grain/noise argument only started because the other guy said he noticed the different amount
of grain in the background than on the actors, and then him saying grain and not noise was used as a way to dismiss our points.

From the beginning I said the lighting was off, the argument just snowballed.

>>91635419
Yes I saw, but the first one was shit so no amount of promises and fancy trailers will get me excited. If they somehow manage to make decent maps, some semblence of balance, and don't go full Jew, then I'll get it.

>>91635414
I'm going to be 60 years old and yelling at kids on the internet about how they shouldn't criticize MY Starwars

>>91634677
I still have faith (for some reason) that Eps VIII and IX will redeem VII, and it will take its rightful place as the first of three and not just a bastard stepchild with IV's hair and eyes.

>>91635451
>and having it be subtly off doesn't work.
Then how come I think the lighting at the end of ROTS looks good?

>episode 9, final battle between first order and the resistance
>a huge fleet jumps out of hyperspace
>THE CONFEDERACY WILL RISE AGAIN
How would you react?

>>91635444
only ironically for fapping purposes, because I once dreamt that they were both fucking in naughty lingerie and kanan was the little spoon and both hera and sabine were watching

>>91635457
Fair enough man, I agree with you

I think BF2 is showing a lot of promise though, I have faith it wont suck

>>91634891
>implying it wasn't Anakin that told him to go into hiding to preserve the last of the Jedi Order after Kylo's betrayal

>>91635357
Ben is a skywalker and not a solo thats wh6 he killed his moms husband

>>91635472
maybe you're mixing up "looking good" with "looking real", because the whole discussion started with him saying it looked fake.

>>91634289
Don't be silly. They're both going to die.

>>91635516
he got pranked by Snoke

>inb4 he switched the kids and stole Rey away

>>91635523
But a twin sunned planet is "fake".
As a fantasy lighting situation, I have never had an issue with it.

>>91635478
>episode 9, final battle between first order and the resistance
Yeah, what the hell even is the goal of these new movies? Destroy the First Order? Restore the Republic (again)? End the Dark Side?

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I just want to fuck tarkin

>>91634677
It's pretty much backed up by the Art of TFA, which is a chronicle of some of the behind the scenes developments. And one thing that was apparent is that they were working on a Death Star 2 level work schedule. Yes Abrams is imo a hack, but ultimately the reason Arndt quit in the first place and Kasdan/Abrams gave us such a shit story was because of the deadlines for production/pre-production/shooting and they couldn't work fast enough to satisfy Disney (Arndt couldn't write fast enough).

(And this is strictly my theory, but I think there is even more damning stuff about the behind the scenes stuff in regards to Iger/Abrams in the Making of TFA by JW Rinzler, the unoffical archival person at ILM/LFL, and why the book was suddenly scrapped despite the entire thing being finished)

>>91635548
How about we F I N D

O
U
T

>>91635472

In most of the shots I'd say it's fine and barely noticeable even if you specifically know what to look for. It's just in the last three shots that I think could have been better. Even then that's just two shots with them cutting from then back to.

>>91635551
I want yandere Krennic to fuck long-suffering Galen.

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>>91635490
Okay, you're in a sicker place than me with it, but it's still cool you'd prefer to see them together than apart.

I'm still going to be assmad if Kanan dies and Ezra lives. They should go out together, not have one still lingering around as failed potential. Kanan lived incomplete after Order 66 despite Hera's best efforts, Ezra doesn't deserve that fate too.

>>91635548
Get rid of the jedi and the sith and knughts of ren and have grey jedi who use both sides protect the galaxy

>>91635580

Hell no. I barely got up the enthusiasm to see Rogue One. I'm not waiting another three years to see what's in J.J.'s mystery box. If you can't establish your protagonist goals in one movie you shouldn't be making movies.

>>91635589
>It's just in the last three shots that I think could have been better. Even then that's just two shots with them cutting from then back to.
I disagree. The second to last shot maybe, but the final shot is perfect in every way.
I'm sure they spend an inordinate amount of time on that last shot to get it just right, and it shows.

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>>91635591
Galen was too good for him.

and too good for Lyra. Galen was too good for everyone in that movie. Except Jyn. He deserved to say goodbye properly.

>>91635548
Erase the universe with the power of Darth Mickey

>>91635625
back to your toons

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>>91635620
>grey jedi

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lel I was reading about the history of George's ST ideas (I don't know why he doubles down on "everything was planned from the start" when there are even books made by Lucasfilm that contradict that with evidence of him making up ideas and changing things as he went along but whatever) and I saw this

so even though Mark openly dislikes how little he was in TFA (and understandably so, don't get me wrong) he has a bigger role in the ST than he would've if George stuck to his plan, but like I said, George changed his mind about this stuff all the time so who knows

>>91635322
The one on the right is CG right?

>>91635593

I think Ezra would be better off if they gave him a fate beyond being a Jedi at this point.

I mean anything, literally anything. Give him a friend who's not on the Ghost Crew. Give him a girlfriend. Give him a couple of droids.

Ezra right now is only living for one thing that's obviously never going to work out.

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>>91635591

>>91635650
>(I don't know why he doubles down on "everything was planned from the start" when there are even books made by Lucasfilm that contradict that with evidence of him making up ideas and changing things as he went along but whatever)
Why do people not treat George like a human being?
Why do they expect him to be so robotically internally consistent?

>>91635631

I think the problem is you're thinking of those shots in a vacuum instead of the three chained together. But having your light source be in front of the characters, then doing a reversal and a rim light from behind is kind of silly. This goes double for if you did a lot of shots from behind and show them walking around and there clearly isn't a light source where that light is coming from.

>>91635661
But then he would just be Kanan v2.0. The "one gets left behind" schtick's been done to death. Either both live or both die, no more of these in-between "unknown fate" Ahsoka asspulls.

>>91635649
What else do you call the middle of the road force user

>>91635685
Because his chin makes him look like that farmer who's body is taken over by the alien in Men in Black.

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>>91635661
Done.

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>>91635698
A Force user.

>>91635593
not sicker because I don't actually ship them I just fapped to gay shit about them once :^)

I don't want canon gay shit in my star wars, I want Ezra and Kanan to live and be with their respective waifus Sabine and Hera, fap fantasies always take the backseat to narrative poetry

>>91635692
>But having your light source be in front of the characters, then doing a reversal and a rim light from behind is kind of silly.
Is it though?
Dramatic effect trumps anything else.
Your thinking is ridiculously mechanical.

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>>91635698
Just a middle of the road force user.

Or alternatively, "The Bendu".

Jedi are an entirely belief system, with rules and order. Part of that is explicitly avoiding the dark side, so to contradict that is to contradict being a Jedi.

>>91635718
No they are jedi but use dark techiniques and methods too so they are gray jedi

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>>91635724
But canon gay shit's already in Star Wars.

>>91635694

Yeah, but then it'd literally be pointless. The raid on Lothal is guaranteed to fail simply because of how the metaplot goes. They'd die achieving nothing.

Which is the problem with fucking all of Star Wars now. Nobody actually has a good, appreciable victory. It's all about how our heroes die or go to exile in shame so that the next big jedi hero can have the stage to themselves before dying and going to exile in shame.

>>91635703

Fuck at this point I'd take it. Someone, somewhere in the fucking galaxy deserves a happy ending.

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>>91635566
I'm actually the one who was posting pages from the Art of TFA book yesterday and noticed that Filoni was involved in the group planning out the ST story from the beginning. I don't understand why everyone here gives Abrams literally ALL of the blame for the misfires in TFA. I'm not saying he didn't fuck up and I'm not saying he wasn't at fault for things that were bad, but the fact that they think that somehow he had more power over the way the film was made than Kathy Kennedy or Bob Iger is bizarre to me. The two of them should be the ones that everyone here hates, JJ just made the film they allowed him to make. He didn't decide not to use Lucas' ideas, that was Kathy Kennedy. And when Arndt needed more time to write, Kennedy had him replaced by Abrams and Kasden, and when the two of THEM needed more time to work on the script Bob Iger only gave them half of the time they asked for.

But anyway, here's the page where it mentions Filoni.
>pic related, first paragraph

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>>91635749
Victories are fleeting; power is eternal.

>>91635746
yeah but hopefully it remains one sentence extras in the background of novels instead of visible protagonists on the screen
I'm bi but I hate people cramming insane politics into my fucking fiction

>>91635782
>I'm bi
high schooler detected

>>91635478
>THE CONFEDERACY WILL RISE AGAIN
Only if it's been built up beforehand and goes somewhere in a movie afterwards, instead of being a one-act-only thing. I would be hyped as fuck.

>>91635733

You could've had the same effect and got both if you just put some lights in the set as props. But they didn't do that.

To me filmmaking is always a mechanical thing. You can always explain good composition of design. It's something that's down to a science. There are near infinite variations on what looks good but it's a thing that has to work mechanically. It has to, otherwise there's no point in having a DP and grip crew and gaffers and layout people and all these guys who's specific job is to have it locked down to a science, and they're clearly very necessary to the process.

>>91635782
oh and speaking of being bi I really fucking hope they dont' screw up Aphra with sjw shit I want to see her in a threesome with Luke and Ahsoka

>>91635794
26, fuck yourself, I don't advertise that shit irl I only talk about it on the internet where I'm anonymous

>>91635580
I mean...Episode 4 pretty well established what the whole fucking point of the Original Trilogy was.

>>91635685
Where did I not treat him like a human being? All I said was I don't know why he pretends like he had everything planned out from the beginning when his own company has published books that show evidence contradicting that. It's like if he all of the sudden said "Star Wars came out in 1963", it just wouldn't be true. I don't understand why you guys take everything so personally. I wasn't even attacking Lucas, you don't have to defend him every time someone points out something that makes him look flawed, especially something as trivial as what I said.

>>91635822
>You could've had the same effect and got both if you just put some lights in the set as props.
No?
If you could have gotten the EXACT same effect, they would have done that.
They are professionals. George Lucas isn't rigging the lighting.

>>91635763
But they did use Lucas's idea. I'm going by my copy, but you can draw a line from the original characters like Kira or Sam or Doe to the TFA counterparts. And frankly a lot of the problems with TFA originate with Abrams (but abetted by Disney). The origin of Kylo Ren foremost, but also the death of Han which I blame a combination of Kasdan/Ford/Abrams.

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>>91635742
Jedi don't use dark techniques in the same way Catholics don't question the pope. Jedi don't use the Darks Side because its bad shit that turns you into fucking Anakin. You're either obeying the rules, or you're not, and if you're not then you aren't a Catholic Jedi anymore but a fucking apostate. Fallen or rogue jedi is a real thing, but Gray Jedi is a stupid term.

>>91635625
You realize that ANH didn't give any indication that the trilogy would be about Luke vs Vader, right? Considering the fact that the only time they ever interact in the movie is the trench run, and Luke has his back to him the whole time. Vader being Luke's father wasn't even decided until the late stages of figuring out the story for ESB, and he was originally having Luke's sister introduced in a sequel trilogy, and we wouldn't see the Emperor until Episode 9, but then he decided to cram it into Episode 6 and call it a day, which is why Leia being Luke's sister feels like it comes out of left field.

>>91635826
i thought ahsoka was dead. And straight.
Also aphra a shit. Shit

>>91635703
I still say Ezra and Sabine should dom that kid at the same time.

>>91635899
But the jedi are evil by being too light so you just gotta use force lightning for good and you are a grsy jedi with good force balance

>>91635917
>You realize that ANH didn't give any indication that the trilogy would be about Luke vs Vader, right?
And the saga suffers for it.
Even as a little kid I knew the "certain point of view" speech was just a bullshit retcon.

>>91634337
Pretty sure Phasma is classed as a regular / full "adult" novel, not a teen book. It's listed as such here on wookiee:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_future_books

>>91635735
>Pablo of all people not understanding that Grey Jedi are morally grey, not in the middle of the Light Side and the Dark Side.

Although if I'm wrong and they aren't called that because they're morally grey then that's fucking stupid in and of itself

>>91635917
It is pretty clear though that it is 1) a story about Luke learning about the force 2) Luke becoming a Jedi 3) defeating the Empire.

>>91635919
Ahsoka is alive and straight, but even straight girls do other girls.
And Aphra might be being set up to be a romantic counterpart for Luke in the screaming citadel comics, I'm hoping that's the case.

>>91635932
But who takes what position in that menage a trois?

>>91635962
>but even straight girls do other girls.
Only slutty ones and my waifu isnt a slut
Also aphra is unbelieveably shitty when will her series end

>>91635962
Sabine puts on a strapon and bends him over while Mizel sucks off Ezra. They tie his arms around his back and put a ribbon on his dick.

>>91635749
>Yeah, but then it'd literally be pointless. The raid on Lothal is guaranteed to fail simply because of how the metaplot goes. They'd die achieving nothing.
If in the long run it gets the Empire to disregard the Rebellion as a credible threat that eventually leads to the attack on Scarif being a success due to underestimation of capability, then it's hardly "for nothing". Not everyone gets to be the scorer in the game, sometimes you're just the guy throwing yourself into defenders just to keep them off the quarterback.

>>91635853

Of course they're professionals, but sometimes professionals make mistakes or cut corners, or they do something that seems like it would work and it doesn't and they can't fix it.

What probably happened by my reckoning is that they filmed everything separate, the rim light came in on the bluescreen, and everyone nodded along and said that that looked better on the set. Then they dropped it onto the background plate and it didn't quite match up.

Dropping a light in was probably judged as being more complicated than it was worth at that point since you'd have had to reshoot both plates and even if every actor's schedule lined up and nobody'd changed their haircut and the baby hadn't grown too muc by that point, you'd probably need to figure out a new setup to accommodate those lights without accidentally bouncing blue or green onto the actors clothes.

>>91635954
You are the one who has misunderstand it anon.

Gray Jedi was a term given to EU characters who weren't evil or Sith, but still flirted with the darkside, often without consequences. They usually get to be Jedi too, despite their actions going against the very idea of being a Jedi.

Think Kyle Katarn.

It's a fucking stupid special snowflake concept, and Pablo was calling it out.

Dark Disciple showed that you can't be a "Gray Jedi", by having Vos completely meltdown and consequently have his waifu killed when he started embracing the darkside

>>91634891
It hurts that they took your Sonu from you doesn't it Em?

>>91635917

Even then, the larger thing is about defeating the empire and saving the galaxy so democracy and freedom can return too the galaxy.

What's the resistances endgame at this point? Nobody fuckin knows.

>>91635995
>pegging
into the trash it goes

>>91636012
>Kyle Katarn.
Wtf i hate kyle now

>>91636007
What I personally think is going on is that you are displaying the 4chan tendency to be overly-cynical, and that they got the look they wanted.

>>91636000

The timeframe and presentation Filoni gives are all wrong for that.

>>91636050
>looks like I'm now a #cruzmissile
I love these stupid fucking election memes

>>91635862
why do you blame them for Han's death? it's well known that not only was Han originally going to die in Return of the Jedi, but that Ford has said since Jedi was released that he felt like his character should have died then. He even says in the behind the scenes doc for TFA that he wasn't sure about coming back because he didn't know where else there was to go with Han's character, and that he always felt like Han should have died sacrificing himself heroically in Jedi to save his friend and that'd be his character's arc, rather than having it end with him defending a door in a forest for half the movie. He also says in the part of the documentary that they talk about shooting his death scene that he was happy with the way Han goes out and thought it was the right way to do it.

So Ford probably only agreed to come back if Han was going to get killed off in a way that he found to be a satisfying conclusion to his character's overall arc. Dude got paid $20 million, which I think is even more than Abrams got paid for both writing and directing. He definitely had the most leverage on deciding how to finish Han Solo's story

>>91636012
Vos was never a Gray Jedi and his entire story in the comics was about using the dark side (even if it was to get close to dooku and find sidious) had negative consequences.

And the Legends Imperial Knights were also considered Gray Jedi and they were strictly anti-dark side to the point they would remove an Emperor by force if he strayed to the darkside.

>>91636073

Not really, look at those three shots again. They don't work as well as they otherwise could.

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>>91636101

I'm still siding with Hamill in that Han and Luke should have had at least one scene together.

>>91636110
I have already said that I disagree.
I think it successfully conveys multi hued light from two suns.

>>91636112
THE GALACTIGATES SHEEVARY

>>91636041
Well how would you do it?

>>91636112
>the zodiac killer is in another galaxy far far away
No wonder we never caught him

>>91635956
okay, but it's also clear from TFA that the ST is 1) a story about Rey learning about the force 2) Rey becoming a Jedi 3) defeating the First Order.

>>91636012
but what you said doesn't indicate whether or not they're called Grey Jedi because they're morally grey or because they're Jedi who are smack dab in between the Light Side and the Dark Side.

Not saying you're wrong, but just that I could still be right with the morally grey thing. I'm still curious as to what the definite answer is though.

Guys I'm getting excited for BF2 help

>>91636148
>not knowing that canonically Sheev used the same tactics as Trump to make his political competition look bad

"Bail Organa, or as I like to call him, 'Little Organa', if you know what I mean folks. Am I right?"

>>91636174
Its both. They are morally gray so the use both sides of the force but lean more towards light hence grey

>>91636159
Sabine sitting on Mizel's face while Ezra pounds him and he and she kiss while doing it

>>91636183
Me too, anon.

Although strangely I'm only excited for the single player. I'll start getting excited for the multiplayer if they announce Ahsoka

>>91636183
DICE is still involved.

>>91636224
Excuse me for the next 30 minutes.

>>91636174
Well defeating the Order is Finn's journey. They're stacking him against Phasma. Rey's will be her understanding the force and herself. What'll Poe get?

>>91636086
That's not his fault. Lucas's compression of the events between eps III and IV did that.

>>91636221
Wtf i love trump now

>>91636183
DO NOT PREORDER UNTIL THEY CONFIRM PLAYABLE Y-WINGS IN FIGHTER SQUADRON

>>91636174
>but what you said doesn't indicate whether or not they're called Grey Jedi because they're morally grey or because they're Jedi who are smack dab in between the Light Side and the Dark Side.
The latter, because it contradicts what it means to even be a Jedi.

The former is interesting though. Do you mean "morally gray" as in someone like Qui-Gon, who might bend the rules a little to otherwise be a good Jedi?

>>91636241
>What'll Poe get?
Hopefully some character development.

>>91636221
Crooked Mon Mothma is no saint (check out sex tape)! She is using the lying media to say unfair things about me! VERY BAD!

>>91636133

Except both suns are in front of them and there's an unseen light source BEHIND them that doesn't exist in other shots.

>>91636240
Also, Governor Pryce keeps a harem of feminized shemale slaves to use as living dildos for all her holes, including her cleavage and Hera and Kanan have loving consensual missionary for the purpose of procreation.

>>91636224
What's so different about that then? I didn't mean they wouldn't switch off. There's only so many ways Sabine can dominate him that don't devolve into cock and ball torture is all.

>>91636281
>Mon Mothma
>Sex
You almost fools me sheev, but we all know this one can't be true.

>>91636101
Because storywise it was far too late to kill him. Everyone's arcs was pretty much complete by the end of ROTJ by Lucas's design (and I think his thoughts outweigh that of Ford or Kasdan). Han and Leia are together, Luke is a Jedi and Vader redeemed and the Emperor dead in that ending. If the sequel was 5 years chronologically after ROTJ, it might make sense since then you are saying like the EU novels that the journey/story are not over. But this is decades after the OT and instead of building on the ending Lucas created, they sweep the rug out on the OT cast screw everyone. Luke becomes a Hermit and still the last Jedi, Han a deadbeat father/husband and Leia marginalized and fighting the same war. Han's death and the treatment of the OT cast is basically a fuck you to the fans.

>>91636248

From what I understand it kind of is. He's jumping farther than usual so the raid on Lothal and Scarif are REALLY close together.

>>91636183
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>>91636256

Stay cautious.

It's okay to be hyped. For all intents and purposes, it looks exactly like classic BF2, but with a new era and story, and that's great.

But do not forget the failure of Battlefront 2015. It's too early to know for sure that they didn't fuck up.

For all we know, the PT era could be only 2-3 planets.

The story could be a buggy clusterfuck.

They might not include Ahsoka or Ventress.

There may not be any playable Y-Wings, or Defenders, or Gunships.

We have hope brothers, but do not lose your sanity.

>>91636300
You deserve to be banned for that last post.

>>91636269
Yeah he needs something. They're turning Finn into a Republic Agent. And while Poe is a great pilot he isn't gonna be in the air the whole movie.

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>>91636281
>Check out sex tape
OH, I WILL, MR PRESIDENT, I WILL

>>91636302
you could also go cowgirl position sabine instead of pegging

>>91636330
ehehehe, implying you don't want hybrid babies

>>91636307
It was her forcong leia tp go down on her

What the fuck will the Resistance do after defeating Space North Korea?

>>91636241
he'll stand in front of a door like Han and Leia

speaking of which how fucking shafted does Leia get in RotJ. In one scene, she learns:
>Luke, her best friend and once love interest who she made out with and kissed another time, is her brother
>Darth Vader, the guy who tortured her and with Tarkin forced her to watch as they blew up her home planet, killing everyone she loved including who she thought were her birth parents, is actually her father
>and now Luke is going to go confront Vader and The Emperor on board the Death Star II, where he could either die in the destruction of the Death Star, die in the duel with Vader, die at the hands of The Emperor, or possibly be turned to evil by both Vader and the Emperor
>he leaves, possibly for the last time

and Leia reacts to this by basically shrugging and casually telling Han he's her brother at the end of the film like it's nothing. Sheeeit, fucking Han reacts to the revelation more than Leia does.

>>91636318
The story outweighs the fans.

>>91636325
It would make sense. A failure at Loyal would mean "the rebels are no real threat" and also back mon mothma's statement of not having enough resources to go after the death star data.

>>91636318

Even if you wanted Han to die, it's not the ideal way to kill him.

If it were me I'd have had him send Chewie off in an escape pod, and crashed the Falcon into Hux's star destroyer to buy everyone else time to escape from some threat. He'd die, but he'd die giving a feeling of accomplishment instead of to make the villain look tough.

>>91636368
leia/mothma is way hotter than huma/Hilary desu senpai

>>91636372
Re-rebuild the New Republic unsuccessfully.

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>>91636377
>forgetting her breaking down in Han's arms after Luke leaves the Ewok village

>>91636298
>there's an unseen light source BEHIND them that doesn't exist in other shots.
And this goes back to the fact that you are being one-note and are seemingly incapable of understanding that they might choose a set up that doesn't look "realistic" on purpose.

And then you say that they could have had that light in the other shots.

But what if they only wanted it in the final shot? What if they liked that look for the ending shot of the film, and the ending shot only?

Am I arguing with an autistic person?

>>91636326
Even though the game was a huge fuck up I found a lot of fun in some of the smaller modes. The death star dlc killed an already bad game though. Shit sucked.

>>91636394
Is that what Star Wars is going to be now? Eternal failure of our heroes?

>>91636364
I feel that Sabine's puss should be for Ezra's exclusive use is all. Mizel could use her as I suppose.

>>91636386

The rebel Fleet is barely bigger than it is at Scarif. A defeat of the size that it would logically be, would be smaller than what they lost last season.

The rebellion can't keep affording to lose whole squadrons of fighters and entire battlegroups.

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>>91636281
>"Separatists, if you're listening, how about you release Little Organa's deleted holomail! Well, maybe the Order 66 people will take care of him, right?"

>>91636403

It's not IN the final shot you fucking moron. That's the problem.

>>91636412
>solely for ezra
I like the way you think anon, that is prime shipping headcanon

>>91636377
I hope there's a scene between Leia and Kylo where she tells him about Anakin. Because ts too cruel to think the only one she knew was Vader.

>>91636439
But it is.

>>91636446
She sends an heartbreaking message to him in Bloodline.

Kylo was at the Academy when the revelation occured.

>>91636418
Hmm. Agreed. Perhaps light damage and run away? How long does the average repair and refit take?

>>91636466

No it's not. Again, the last three shots. The first one, no light, second one, light, third shot, it's gone again.

Do you want me to draw you a fucking diagram?

>>91636479
He and Luke were out traveling the galaxy, not stuck in one location as far as Leia knew.

>>91636404
How did that DLC kill it, anon?

>>91634337
>aftermath not with the adult books

lol you did good cAnon

>>91636442
Like I said. Mizel could use her ass. But he'll have to pay for it.

>>91636318
do you ever wonder if the OT was made today people would be getting pissed that Luke could make the trench run shot when he not only barely trained with Obi-Wan to be a Jedi but never uses the Force in the film until that point, aside from being able to deflect those tiny lasers without seeing them. And that's not even thinking about how mad people would be about Obi-Wan's death being out of character.

>>91636486

However long the plot demands.

The problem is that the rebels would need to COMMIT to Lothal. There's multiple destroyers around it now with escorts. It's a level of force where throwing a couple of extra destroyers in wouldn't change much.

The only thing I can see happening is Thrawn does his whole Thrawn Pincer, and uses it to flank them. But then they'd probably be cut off from escape and then destroyed.

>>91636411
No, it's going to be the growing pains of them getting the New Republic right without it succumbing to the shit that led up to the Galactic Republic's downfall within the career timeframe of a single Senator.

>>91636479
I need to pick that one up sometime. Who wrote it?

>>91636496
>The first one, no light, second one, light, third shot, it's gone again.
And what evidence do you have that this wasn't by choice?

>>91636557
Claudia Gray, one of the best new writers of nucanon.

>>91636411
but that's how life works, anon. Would you prefer they have eternal plot armor and nothing goes wrong for them ever? it wouldn't make for any interesting movies.

>>91636531

If the Prequels came first then I could kind of see that. But the difference is that's exactly one thing Luke does while Rey has literally three or four such examples spaced very close together.

The problem is that these examples are also academic. Luke is our baseline. Anything faster than Luke needs an explanation.

>>91636411
Episode 10 will begin with the New New Republic being destroyed by the Order Segundus.

Episode 13 will begin with the establishment of the New New New Republic For Real This Time, Really (NNNRFRTTR, pronounced Nerf Herder) but it's immediately destroyed by the Order of the Third Imperial Regime.

Episode 16 is when they finally give up and just call themselves the New Empire, to which the villainous Neo Imperial Final Order has no idea how to react

>>91636582
THIS

>>91636565

Experience mostly, and talking with people who've made similar errors.

People aren't perfect dude, not even Lucasfilm or ILM.

>>91636535
I'm thinking they'll have to resort to suicidal tactics. Hyperspace jumps close to gravity wells and such. Heavily mine areas. Infiltrate and sabotage enemy ships in mid battle. Stuff like Saw would command really.

>>91636507
the first dlc killed it, and I'm not talking about outer rim I'm talking about the free jakku dlc which came out early for preorder owners

it became immediately apparent that the playerbase would not and could not survive playlist splits between all the modes, in the end you wind up splitting the population between about a dozen different types of servers that cannot connect with one another, and the exclusivity of certain servers absolutely murdered the playercount, it dropped from 100k to 10k pretty much overnight, and now it hovers barely around 3k

and all of this is ignoring the huge endemic cheating problem

>>91634337
I say add the Rebel Dossier book to the character guides

>>91636575
Nice. Her Lost Stars was good. Met her Saturday at Comic Con too. Nice lady. I badmouth ed Wendig in front of her and she defended the guy.

>>91636581
>the only interesting movies are ones where the heroes lose
fucking neck yourself you edgy tween

>>91636604
>91636604
That's not evidence. What evidence do you have that they didn't intentionally light the shot where the actor's faces are the focus differently?

>>91636581
I'd rather Star Wars end on a good note because it isn't real life.

>>91636625
Ahh, alright, yeah. I'll agree.

Thankfully Dice have admitted that they screwed up, and are not having a Season Pass again, which heavily suggests free DLC/no playlist splitting for BF2

Downside is that usually means they'll have a micro-transaction system to compensate, but we'll have to see

>>91636582
true, but with all the mystery around Rey specifically being related to the Force I wouldn't be surprised if she's capable of more than the usual Force user because of something to do with that.

Plus Luke was just told about the Force by Obi-Wan because he was telling him about his dad being a Jedi and it came up. Aside from that and the scene on the Falcon that's really all Obi-Wan tells him until he shows up as the voice of God at the end and just says "use the Force Luke, let go" and Luke figures the rest out himself.

MARK SUE!!!!

>>91636671
>I badmouthed Wendig in front of her and she defended the guy.
Anon... what the fuck

Wh-what exactly did you say?

>>91636507
It was the third seperate playlist that divided the player base even more. On top of that it was the most spartan of offerings which included the most spammed weapon in the game. Balance changes to HvV wrecked the mode and fighter squadron was and is still broken.

>>91636693

Because it's not a focus issue, it's a shot continuity issue.

>>91636717
>Chuck Wendig? More like Cuck Wendig haha"
>"uh, what?"

>>91636581
America didn't die within the life time of George Washington.

It also didn't die by the British summoning a meteor from space and smashing it into Washington DC.


Set the movie 100 years after RotJ and you are just fine.

>>91636712
>true, but with all the mystery around Rey specifically being related to the Force I wouldn't be surprised if she's capable of more than the usual Force user because of something to do with that.

That's mystery with no backing. There's no evidence Rey is anything other than she appears even if J.J. signaled his mystery box hard.

>>91636726
no
What evidence do you have that they didn't want the ending shot to look one way, and the face shot to look another?

>>91636741
you didn't actually say that did you? I can't believe anyone could be THIS socially inept

>>91636717
That I liked his writing the least out of all the new authors. Felt like his plots were okay but I hate his prose. Her response was that "he's not for everybody" so she defended him kinda like you would a coworker you don't hate but you don't like either.

Asked her if she knew if Zahn or anyone else was getting any trooper or soldier centric books and she didn't know. Pretty well said they don't really get together at a round table as writers. So I guess the direction comes solely from the story group and the authors fill out the details.

>>91636743
>America didn't die within the life time of George Washington.

well the White House was burned down by the British 13 years after he died, and if he had the lifespan we have today he'd probably have been around to see that.

>White House burned down by the British even though they were defeated years earlier
>Jedi Temple burned down by a bunch of Dark Side guys even though they were defeated years earlier

again it's like poetry, they rhyme. every stanza sort of rhymes with the last one.

>>91636785
He's joking.

>>91636763

Again, experience. All I can do is just say I've seen similar issues in the past and seen them come up naturally as a result of the processes they used.

What are you expecting me to do, pull testimony out my ass from the rendering guy or the grip crew guys from that specific sequence?

>>91635540
>But a twin sunned planet is "fake".
Actually binary star systems with planets have been found and do exist

>>91636809
Did the government get destroyed by that?

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>cmon dooku! turn evil ill teach you how to shoot lightning out of your hands!

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Those speeders on crait will wrap around the atats legs and bring them down
Rose will betray Finn and he'll be returned to the FO In carbonite, transported by Boba Del Toro
Snoke will meet Rey and tell her he is her father
Episode IX
Rey will rescue Finn from boba del toro's lair
Poe, Finn & Rose will be sent to a forest moon to deactivate the shield protecting the new star killer
Rey will go back to find Luke and be upset with him for not telling her who her father was
Rey & Luke will take on snoke and kylo in a lightsaber 4 some. Snoke kills Luke and just as he's about to slay Rey, kylo will step in and throw snoke down the power shaft
Kylo and Rey get married and start a new force order
The end

now shut up, all of you

>>91636809

The difference is that the U.S. wasn't completly destroyed and there wasn't a dude autistically trying to cosplay Benedict Arnold.

>>91636806
>and she didn't know.
I doubt Disney lets the authors freely talk about unannounced projects, even something as small as novels.

>>91636806
Alright, that's a fair enough response from her I guess.

Was kinda dickish of you to call Wendig out like that, but I wouldn't expect anybody less from someone from 4chan/swco/

>>91636847
Probably not, but it was what she said after. Straight up said the authors don't really contact each other much. Granted most of then are working in completely sepseparate areas so it's not impacting anything yet. I just think they should all hash things out a little bit as they're expanding the lore.

>>91636835
>>91636844

one would argue that you can't destroy something that was broken from the start but that might be a lil bit

E D G Y

Should Boba Fett come out of the Sarlaac?

>>91636823
>Again, experience. All I can do is just say I've seen similar issues
You are arbitrarily assuming that they didn't know what they were doing.
The color palette of the three so called out of continuity shots each benefit IMO by the lighting people having their cake and eating it too by lighting the shots differently.

As I said, you are overly mechanical.
Nice colors>lighting continuity in this instance.

>>91636843
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsLeaks/comments/65wqxe/star_wars_the_last_jedi_details_opening_crawl/dge2grc/

>directly stealing comments from reddit

nice try bitch

>>91636904
nah, it doesnt make any sense. i was a fett fan as a child mind you.

although didnt the sarlaac get killed by jabbas barge?

>>91636854

In all honesty Wendigs big problem is there are characters way more interesting than his main cast.

When he introduced ex imperial guy and then had him talk to a super excited Twi'lek dude I was way more on board with Twi'lek dude. That character had way more energy and enthusiasm and felt like someone I actually wanted to read about.

Then the next chapter came and that dude died offscreen, but imperial guy lived through the same thing for unspecified reasons. So of the two people we meet we follow someone with less energy, less personality, and less reason to care about.

Because for fucks sake can someone describe his personality to me besides "being gay"?

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>>91636931
your one of them to!

>>91636854
How was that dickish?

>>91636909

Except shot continuity exists for a reason. If you cut from two shots with slightly different light levels and lighting that's not quite right it'll be a bit jarring to the audience. Shot continuity is important. If it was somehow an intentional thing I'll maintain it was a bad one.

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>>91636931
you caught me anon

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HELP US!

>>91636986
>it'll be a bit jarring to the audience.
And i'm saying that as an audience member who has watched the film at least 80 times, I do not have an issue with it at all.

>I'll maintain it was a bad one.
I disagree.

>>91636959
>can someone describe his personality to me besides "being gay"?
Prudish and resilient? That's all I got.

>>91636982
Just seems a bit harsh to out someone as the "least good" of the dozens of writers at Lucasfilm. Especially when it's kinda unrelated, you'd think it would make more sense to just talk about Claudia or her books in that situation.

>>91636854
>dickish

People hate Wendig especially after he painted the target on his back and tried to be an asshole to the fans of the old Legends continuity and tried to make it look like they hated him because of homophobia.

>>91636809
But America wasn't destroyed because of that war and their entire government wasn't removed with the Capitol. Ultimately, all that happened with the burning of Washington was that some nice art was lost.

Besides that isn't the point. The point is, sometimes people can succeed at creating a new government, organization, ect. and it doesn't automatically blow up in their faces because "that's life."

>The Han Dynasty didn't fall within the lifetime of Liu Bang
>The Roman Empire did not fall within the lifetime of Augustus.
>The Kingdom of Jerusalem did not fall within the lifetime of Godfrey of Bouillon or Baldwin I.
>Japanese shogunate did not fall within the lifetime of Minamoto Yoritomo.

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>>91637021
go up the ventilation shaft

>>91637026

I don't know if I'd even call him prudish. One of his monologues about SHIT I'VE DONE DUDE FOR REAL is about regretting how prudish the empire is.

>>91636904
Yeah, but since his armor is being used by someone else he should be retired.

>>91637026
Dozens? Thought there was just a handful of novel writers. On the other point I'll give you that one. It didn't relate to anything personally about her. There was a part of me that just assumed she would also dislike Wendig's aftermath series that doesn't actually deal with the aftermath of the war.

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>tfw been banned for the past 4 or 5 days for saying that Rebels would be announced as cancelled/ending with season 4 at the Celebration panel and everyone bitched and moaned at me saying I was a "lying shitposter"
>mfw it actually happened with the season even being shorter than the others as evidence of how hard Filoni must have had to fight to even get that much
Vindication sure is sweet you dumb assholes.

>>91637111
Stop being a dumbass

>>91637111
How about some proof mate? And hiroshima-deleted-my posts isn't an excuse these days.

>>91637111

You know I'd be fine with it, if literally anything else at celebration looked good.

>>91637111
You don't deserve those trips

>>91637111
Yeah you didn't get banned

>>91637229
>>91637143
If he did get banned, it's because he was shitposting and being a twat, not because of his opinion/theories on Rebels ending.

>>91637111
You said and did no such thing. And you weren't banned for it.

rebels is ending? sweet maybe they'll make some thing awesome.

what if they make an awful KoToR show?

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>>91637350
>what if they make an awful KoToR show?
haha, I wouldn't worry about it anon

>>91637350
They'd have to try really hard to make a bad KOTOR show.

>>91637350
Kotor is irrelevant to the ST, so there won't be a show about it in the near future.

>>91637143
>>91637229
>>91637251
>>91637262
I absolutely did and I was. Since last Thursday. I said the reason why it took so much longer for them to announce the show was even getting a season 4 than it did the previous seasons was because it was ending and Disney was hesitant to not just cancel it outright. Half the fucking thread at the time responded, so if you were there at all you saw my post.

>>91637350
They'll do a show in the ST era, and once that's done, come back to post-ANH with Star Wars Ghosts, feat. Hera, Chopper, and whoever doesn't die in season 4.

R-right, Filoni?

>>91637431
I do remember that post.

But I am refusing to believe that you was banned for thinking the show was cancelled. IF you was banned, it was because you was shitposting.

I am also going to call you a fool for thinking Filoni is lying. He was very open about how ending TCW was out of his control, but ending Rebels earlier was entirely his call. He has literally no reason to lie about it unless you're going to go tinfoil-hat-mode and come up with some conspiracy.

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>>91637475
>thinking he's going to let enough people live that they could continue the show

Why is there no ficwriters in this general? Or is writing fanfiction for official fanfiction kinda weird

>>91637350
I suspect it will be something significantly shittier than Rebels. That show was an abject financial failure for them, so Filoni will probably be getting yet another significant decrease in budget like he had going to Rebels from TCW. I expect the animation and art style to suck even harder and it will probably pander hard to feminists with yet another forced female protagonist

>>91637475

They'll probably wrap up everything else in a comic or novel if they care enough to.

>>91637520
That wouldn't be canon and there are some people here that can't deal with that.

>>91637493
good goy

>>91637524
>That show was an abject financial failure for them
source

>>91637520
There were a few fanfic writers who posted from time to time

>>91637524
Filoni already said the new project is "on another level" to both TCW and Rebels and he is very excited about it, so cut out that stupid talk there anon.

>>91637493
The fact that the season is much shorter is a dead giveaway that this is exactly the same situation as TCW but they gave him enough advance notice to actually finish the story arcs that are most important. Do you really expect him to just be like "Yeah, Disney cancelled my shit. Sorry."? Definitely not if he wants to keep his job.

>>91637559
"on another level" can also mean on a shittier level, anon. It doesn't inherently mean something positive.

>>91637559
"Another level" isn't indicative of an increase in quality. Could simply mean entirely different tone and subject matter. You're being very naive.

>>91637585
>The fact that the season is much shorter is a dead giveaway
Filoni has already explained that the season is being structured very differently this time. No standalone stories or """""filler""""", it's completely serialized once the Mandalore arc concludes. Back-to-back-to-back in one big story.

>>91636743
>Set the movie 100 years after RotJ and you are just fine.
This. In the old eu they didnt totally lose until like 100 years had passed

>>91637475
It will be set between OT and ST. Every show has bridged something so far. TCW bridged episode 2 anakin to episode 3. Rebels bridged the beginning of the Empire to the circumstances which led to its end. The new series will probably be about the First Order building up their forces, the demilitarized new Republic, and a small group who decides fuck that were gonna keep an eye on those assholes.

>>91637588
>>91637609
You guys both know that's not what Filoni was intending.

He was saying that his next show is going to be worth it, he even said he's getting to do something not done before in Rebels/TCW.

He was very excited about what he is working on, he obviously thinks wrapping Rebels up was for the best.

Don't twist his words.

>>91637692
I'm not twisting anything, I simply am capable of reading between the lines to see the unspoken truths unlike you.

>>91637692

I never really got a feeling of him being super excited. Rather I got the feeling he was kind of bummed.

>>91637671
That would fly in the face of the established canon with Bloodline where up until like 4 or 5 years before TFA the First Order were a total secret and even by the end of that book Leia doesn't really know what's going on and still thinks it' s some kind of huge criminal enterprise made up of old Imperial mercs trying to fill the Hutt Cartel power vacuum.

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>>91637710

>>91637666
And even the Jedi didn't get totally wiped out, but went underground to survive.

>>91637768
Well then it would have to be set five years before TFA, if they were to do that I guess. Other than the unknown regions I'm not sure what they could do with republic space since they let them back pedal so much in terms of military. To demilitarize at all means they believed they had no need of one as there is no major conflict.

Are there shotguns in star wars?

>>91637912
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Shotgun/Canon
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Shotgun

>>91637912
The Scatter Gun from DICEFront comes to mind, and there were many in Legends. Republic Commando is a notable example.

>>91637761
I'm sure he is bummed, he's ending a show.

But he seemed very excited for his newer show in his interview with Andi

>>91637946

I never saw that interview. Link?

>>91637912
The Flechette gun in Jedi Outcast sort of is. The Jawa gun in Battlefront is one. The Trandoshan guns in Republic Commando were. The gun the Bothans used in Battlefront 2 was.

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>>91637710
wew

>>91637945
That Scattergun IS the same one from Republic Commando (technically first made canon in TCW)

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>>91637962
>That Scattergun IS the same one from Republic Commando

Never noticed that.

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You think Bossk might finally make his Rebels debut in season 4? Or you think there might not be enough time?