How the fuck is Stark not in prison after what Ultron did?

>>91574096
Richies don't go to jail.

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>>91574096
>What Ultron did
You kind of answered your own question.

There's actually more logical argument as for why Stark wouldn't be in jail.

1. Strictly speaking Stark technically didn't do anything illegal to land him in jail, and he did exactly what he said he was going to do; run tests on the scepter. Ultron resulted as a freak accident of those tests (even JARVIS was bewildered as to how he gained sentience) and Ultron was a conscious, self-determining being that made the individual choice to do what he did. You don't go to jail for something your kid has done, for example.


2. Stark was actually the biggest factor in saving the world from Ultron. His idea stopped the doomsday scenario from reaching completion, and localizing the damage to a small, poor city and the surrounding area. Don't forget, he flew a nuke through a wormhole and saved New York almost at the cost of his own life. That probably won him a lot of brownie points to spend.

3. Whether you like him or not, Stark GETS SHIT DONE. He's one of the Avenger's heaviest hitters (possibly THE heavient hitter in Veronica) and unlike the others, he can think of unorthodox solutions to complex and pressing situations. He straight up single handedly brought multiple terrorist organizations and private armies to their knees by his lonesome even before his tenure as an Avenger, and there was a point in time where America couldn't wait to sic Iron Man on their latest actionable target. You don't put competence like that in prison for charges in the interest of a vague sense of punishment for the man that was actively involved in the solution to the problem, you put his ass to work for you.

A better question is how the fuck is Wanda not in prison? She did a lot worse than Stark, and not accidentally.

>>91574096

He also created vision, which saved the day, is loyal to a fault and would probably be mildly irritated that you locked him up.

Also technically, Stark didn't create Ultron. Stark tried to create his own AI, using Jarvis to run a preset list of combinations; the AI from the staff that became Ultron then awoke, settled itself quite nicely into the Stark suits, killed Jarvis, and began causing havoc.

TL;DR Ultron already existed in the staff, Stark merely used the staff as a template, staff AI proceeds to escape.

>>91574096
Plausible deniability against direct charges, he can also pay off or mitigate all the damages.

He agreed to be the goverment's Iron Slave.

>>91574096
Stark is a flawed human being like all of them, though he does also have the advantage of being human and rich.

Thor nearly started a catastrophic war between the Frost Giants and Asgard, Steve is stubborn and lives in the past, Wanda acted upon anger without understanding what she was doing, Natasha has done a ton of bad shit, Banner is part monster, Sam is anti-authority.

I get the impression Tony is the only active Avenger as we enter Infinity War, perhaps Steve is active as a vigilante, but the rest have likely all quit.

The implication by Marcus and McFeely is that Stark is the only one concerned with the impending threat. Everyone else has disbanded.

>>91574096
Same reason none of the Avengers are at the start of the movie.

The Avengers have been breaking laws left and right well before and after Ultron. The world's governments had given them a pass up until the Lagos incident, and even then it's not "We're going to punish you for everything you did" but "We'll let your past actions slide, but not any future ones." It's a blank slate.

>>91574256
cap probably vouched for wanda, and his endorsement carries a shitload of weight

but because the accords were drafted up, the avengers were already on thin ice

Look what happened to the last people to try to lock him up.

Saving the world a couple times kind of gives you a pass after something out of your control kills a couple hundred people

>>91582824
>Out of his control
>created the AI and gave him the facilities to build himself a physical body

>>91574096
What charge would you place on Tony?
He didn't conspire in any way WITH Ultron, he didn't sit idly and let Ultron get away with shit...

Ultimately Tony fought to the nail to stop Ultron having accidentally created him.

There's no crime in accidentally giving birth to a criminal.

>>91574224
First post is often the best post. End thread

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>ultron can have bodies all over the world
>confines them all to a single town
was this ever explained? Or was whedon just checked out at that point of writing the script?

>>91574328
>He also created vision
he didn't tho
also, his ambition is what got him to experiment with the staff in the first place
while ignoring the only advice he got from anyone else (Bruce) while keeping it from the rest of his teammates

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>>91574096
Same reason why John Hammond wasn't in prison during The Lost World.

>>91584603
Ultron's ego got in the way of his own logic.

Plus Vision shut him out of the net. I imagine Ultron has to be within some semblence of range to jump to a sentinel.

>>91584689
So he could do the score for the movie?

>>91585796
Not that John Hammond

>>91574256
He still created Ultron and he went to do another one.

He was also going to drop Sokovia and kill people ala MoS but Cap stopped him.

Nah fuck Stark.

>>91574256
Still love that scene. Between that and Tony's little freakout when the mom was reaching into her bag, Civil War really sold me on Tony being very rattled and fucked up from superheroing.

>>91574096
Simply put, with a mind as extraordinary as his, you either want it on your side or you want it deader than dead. Trying to kill him has clearly been shown to be easier said than done and failing gets you a pretty terrifying enemy for your troubles. Having him believe he's your ally and you are his is clearly the superior choice here.

Even disregarding all of that, what's to say you could even *keep* him imprisoned for any length of time? While more than capable of getting out of anything anyone could come up with to keep him locked up, he's also friends with a god, a raging natural disaster, a super-soldier and 2 super-spies.

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>>91586971
>created Ultron
there were ultrons in strucker's lab

>>91574096

I assume something similar to what happened in IM2 happened and he got off.

>>91574096
You don't put weapons manufacturer in jail when somebody use one of their gun to kill somebody.

>>91574096
How is Wanda not in prison?

>>91579554

He can vouch all he likes. She still helped the murderbot. Good to see captain facist thinks he's above the laws of lesser people... again

>>91574256
>Stark was actually the biggest factor in saving the world from Ultron.

wow he solved a problem which he helped create

the avengers as a whole are pretty fucking retarded; basically the entire world is suffering because of the ripple effect of their own actions. In the first movie, the calamity came from Thor's baggage

>>91586971
>He was also going to drop Sokovia and kill people ala MoS but Cap stopped him.
it was all the people up here vs all the people down there.

>>91586988
Same. I remember when I saw the trailer, and that look of utter "ohmigodthatalmostkilledme" terror in his face.

>>91574096

Big Question is why is Steve not going to prison for what he did in Civil War?

>>91589219
Because he's in hiding, you dope.

>>91589312

So he's guilty as fuck then

>>91589392
I guess? I mean, he did kinda help out Bucky even though he's wanted for all the stuff he did (albeit under severe mind-control, which is where the ambiguity comes in). Not to mention beating the stuffing out of Stark, which again was only because he was trying to kill Bucky.

>>91589411

Bucky is guilty Steve helped a criminal thus he should be hunted down and sent to prison.