I don't get it.

Then you don't deserve to get it.

>>91555914
you need to read most of the comic to understand it

...Is this some sort of reference to Kandor?

>>91555967
Kind of. It's a reference to Stalingrad, which is Kandor's stand-in in Red Son.

>>91555948

fpbp

>>91555914
As legend has it, Millar is still coming after furiously jerking himself off to that outstanding example of word-wrought magnificence.

I mean, I remember reading it and just hitting me so, /co/. I just thought to myselft --as I clumsily waded through wild torrents of Stendahl's overdrive- "I want to sex this man"

That just reminds me of golden age superman linking planets together with a chain(?) and dragging them around

Never did either, or maybe I forgot. I think it's related to Kandor but that's it.

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>>91555914

>>91555914
He's got the whole world, in his hands
He's got the whole world, in his hands
You've got the whole world, in your hands

>>91555948

FPBP

Been ages since I have read Red Son but the basic gist is that Lex Luthor defeated Commie Superman by calling his bluff: IE the only way to stop "evil" in the world is to basically turn Earth into a prison planet IE "putting it in a bottle" ala Kandor, which IIRC is a gulag in Red Son where Commie Superman imprisons political prisoners.

>>91555914
Does Braniac do that?

>>91558808
It's a gulag now but it started as brainac Imprisoning everyone which Commie Supes was against and Lex showed him to a hypocrite

>>91558808
So he made Superman feel guilty. He beat Superman with guilt?

>>91561763
Well, it's not as if he's capable of beating Superman by matching or surpassing his strength

>>91561763
yep. Why are comics so shit?

>>91561763
More than that, he showed Superblyat that he'd become the very monster he'd sworn to protect the world from.

>>91555914
Superman is ashamed he didn't think of such a great idea first.

>>91555914
Sounds like a plan to me.

>>91555967
Yes, it's a reference to how Braniac in that universe bottled Stalingrad. Superman was never able to reverse the effects and is one of his bigger failures.

>>91561763
>He beat Superman with guilt?
Yes, because Superman despite everything that had happened he still genuinely wanted to do what's best for people. Red Sun superman isn't a villain superman like Injustice murder happy superman.

>>91555914
Absolute power.

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the one thing I wish was in Red Son was a little blurb at the end, when Superman was rattling off all of Luthors achievements, that he was also able to rescale Stalingrad

>Communist Superman isn't a villain
>Nazi Superman isn't a villain
What did they mean by this?

>>91562495
Superman isn't a villain most of the time

>>91555914
This made me so disappointed after the rest of it.

>>91558808
Kind of an interesting commentary on certain far-left (and, to be fair, far right) ideologies like communism too. You try to make the world perfect and you'll either fail or rob everyone on Earth of their individual will.
Its a lot like what Jack Kirby was writing about in the early Fourth World stuff, where order and perfection and eternal sustainability is evil and chaos is good.

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>>91562555
>Zod Superman isn't a villain

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>This sounds like a bad life to anyone

But naw mannnn, like, crime and poverty is just like, the human expeeeerience maaaan.

>>91562495
Even with different contexts, he's still the same basic person.

>>91562762
The only way to achieve perfection like this is through measures that are less tolerable than crime and poverty.

>>91562762
>accidents never happen
nigga what

>>91562762
He was lobotomizing people.

>>91561763
No, he beat him with a Rotten Tomatoes score

>Why don't you put all your anger in a bottle?

>>91559487
Yeah, that's the point.

>>91563541
Superman is there to save the day
Every time

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>>91555914
It's not hard.

>>91562762
It doesn't sound bad on paper until you hit that last part. Everyone in the world having the same mindset in public AND private implies a threat.

>>91564924
It's not a threat
It's the implication
No one's really in danger

>>91565003
Even assuming that, there's no way that everyone in the world would feel the exact same about something.

In any given temperature, some people might be too cold while others might be too hot and a third set might be comfortable.

And not one of these people with different points of view on something as small as that have any kind of dissenting thoughts from Superman's world-changing ideas?

>>91561843
So basically Injustice?

>>91562762
Sounds like a boring life.

>>91565003
it's
>implying
that Superman is always listening and removes any dissenting opinions

>>91564608
what a thread that was

>>91565003
It's fine and dandy until you remember he turned people into robo-zombies for expressing dissent.

Why don't you just rotate the Earth in the opposite direction to reverse time, Superman?

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Lex stopped superman from pulling a Maken. Maken who is in pic related, in one ending can eat the psi of all living being on the planets and control them until the end of earth. Maken was made to be a man-made god. Game is called Maken X. It is a rather fun game.

>>91565365
I prefer the explanation that Superman actually achieved FTL and sent himself back in time, but the perspective made it seem as though he was rotating the planet while he was staying outside Earth's atmosphere to avoid causing global hypersonic booms but remaining in its orbit to avoid having to fly whatever distance it would be behind him in the past.

Though that still raises a few questions.

>>91561763
>So he made Superman feel guilty. He beat Superman with guilt?
No he defeated him by changing his perspective and expanding his ability to perceive.

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>Lol I'm going to defeat communism by centrally planning the entire economy and directly controlling the means of production!

Does Miller actually get why communism is bad?

>>91565586
clearly he thinks it is merely a case of bad leaders

also Millar, not Miller

>>91565486
>a boss battle against the pope set inside the Vatican.
Every time, Japan. Every time.

>>91562643
Yeah, he wasn't. He was a bit hard-edged and didn't care about authorities too much at first but he was nowhere near a villain.

>>91565003
>It's the implication
What uh, what implication?

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>>91565912
That something might happen. Not that something is going to happen.
It's just people are thinking Superman can hear anything, be anywhere, invulnerable, unstoppably strong. So there's, you know.

The implication.

>>91556348
>golden age superman
Silver age. Golden age Superman is the one who threatened bankers and the like with annihilation if they didn't leave the little guy alone.

>>91565104
only with an actual well-thought story this time

>>91565626
is it not?

>>91565586
It's like you refuse to get the point of the book or something.
This is all very basic stuff here. How are so many people having a hard time with this?

>>91566211
Sort of like how when you invite a woman to your yacht she has to sleep with you because of the implication of not consenting when she's in the middle of the ocean with no one else but you around.

>>91567733
I dunno, man... Seems a bit rapey to me.
Great fucking bit.

>>91565586
You're giving Millar too much credit. He doesn't even know what Communism is.