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The Last Jedi Edition

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2017.htm

>Out This Week:
Thrawn (April 11)
Adventures in Wild Space #3 (April 11)
Doctor Aphra #6 (April 12)
Celebration 2017 (April 13-15)

>Star Wars: The Last Jedi - Teaser Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB4I68XVPzQ

>Download links: (Check here for new Rebels Episodes + Books, Comics, Films, etc)
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya

>Canon Guide:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t1KovH_1GYLDTAe3yrleeWiuzwulm670o_anQqr5Rcg/pubhtml

>Legends Recommendation List:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/147N5EgCnZmcPaDYvnGQwl9cn7BhBroFb7mD2C4cmWb0/edit?usp=sharing
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give the QRD on the new thrawn book

anyone read it?
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When will Wedge get the nucanon book he deserves?
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>>91542454
https://youtu.be/6JfsysjFbD0
>force Mark to under go training for months for a character role only to change the fucking story during production so the character only shows up for one shot
>send Mark off for talking about Luke's backstory from probably Lucas's original vision
Why can't they give the guy a break?
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I want more aliens.
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First for Ripped2-D2.
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>>91544760
>We want the axilla audience
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>>91544753

Because there's no real coming back from the disappointment that there was. She was billed as being hot shit for a full year by everyone involved with that movie, went down with no fight, got thrown in the trash where she belongs, and somehow lived anyway.

Even if she comes back there's no real way to redeem the character without an uphill battle you can't devote screentime for. You're better off just saying she died on Starkiller base and having a new captain.
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WHATISSHE?
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>>91544795
Unless they can give him more than "le Imperial detector", I don't think so.
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>>91544795

Probably never. They'd need to bring back Stackpole to do him justice.
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The important question people should be asking is
Does Wedge still have a sister?
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>>91544864
scar is in wrong place
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>>91544807
>tfw no Ssi-Ruuk
>tfw basically no recognizable Star Wars aliens in either TFA or RO
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Rate the TLJ trailer.
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>GCW ended a year after Sheev died
Lame
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>>91544864
Is he completely abandoning his helmet in TLJ? The only shot of him is without it and it seems to be shown earlier in the trailer in a shattered pile on the ground.
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>>91544797

>Join film
>Fall in love with costar
>She runs off to fuck another costar who's married, then he blows her off
>They make out in both sequels
>Vanish from the public eye for decades
>Come back
>Work out for a year to get into the best shape of your life
>Almost all your scenes get cut
>Old costar dies, after writing out she always loved the other guy
>Spill your spaghetti at a fun nerd con for the world to see

Mark had a hard life. Holy shit I want to just give the guy a hug.
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>>91544795
When he becomes an empowered female character.
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Do not steal my original character guys!!!
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>>91544927
>forced
>force
eheh
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>>91544795
But will Soontir Fel still be banging Wedge's sister????
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>>91544760
Dave Filoni action figure when?
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>>91544937

3/10

It does the bare minimum by showing things happening but it doesn't get you excited because it doesn't show any real conflict.
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>>91544966
what
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>>91544885
>>91544975
#BaseRival
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>>91544975
>sex in Disney Wars
Good one
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>>91544795
Never. Rebels ruined his backstory completely and Aaron Allston is dead so he can't come in to fix this fuck up. Stackpole likely isn't ever coming back either.
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snoke wanted kylo to kill his father

his training is to be completed?

are we to assume snoke is ancient, hes heavily associated with the unknown regions

there isnt a whole lot to glean at this point is there?
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>>91545008
>main characters have sex in Lost Stars
nice meme
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>>91544947
That was Vader's helmet on the ground, anon. Did you not hear the breathing?
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>>91544903
This is what it sounds like when doves cry.
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>>91544760
Teaser trailer was fucking boring.
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>>91545008
Lost Stars had a sex scene.

It didn't go into detail but it was explicitly stated that the two characters had sex. I think they even used the word sex.
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>>91544885

If Fel was coming back, he'd have been in the intro episode.

What gets me is how shit Rebels treats both rebel and imperial pilots who aren't main characters. Wedge is treated like a joke. Rudor was an even bigger joke until they forgot about him. Vult Skerris has only been in like one episode. Phoenix Squadron are treated like disposable towels.
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MY NEW EMPIRE
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>>91545036
Watch it again and kill closest. The foremost part in the middle that it zooms in on is very clearly the silver visor of Kylo Ren's helmet
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What new books were announced?
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>>91544937
I don't know about giving it a number, but this whole "balance between light and dark" and "the Jedi need to end" stuff rubs me the wrong way intuitively. Even if it's the case that Luke changes his mind on it, it seems like a pretty shit direction to take things.
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>>91545008
>he didn't read shattered empire
>he didn't read lost stars
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>>91545036
I think not
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>>91545064
> kill closest
What did he mean by this?
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So, I have a friend who is 39 and has been a SW fan for many years. He told me sothing that I have a hard time finding any sources on.


He used to subscribe to the Official Star Wars Fan Club Newsletter "Bantha Tracks" and he remembers before the release of RotJ that there was a lot of speculation that in ESB when Luke left Dagobah and Yoda said to Obi-Wan "No, there is another".

Nowadays we know Yoda meant that Leia is his sister but apparently they thought that Han Solo was his long lost brother and he would become a Jedi.

Can anyone confirm this? Did Lucas ever say anything on the matter?
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>>91545064
Look closer*
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https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2017/04/rian-johnson-we-will-find-who-reys-parents-are-in-the-last-jedi-more-cast-interviews.html

>Rian Johnson revealed that in his mind The Last Jedi has always been singular, with Luke being the last Jedi.

old EUfags BTFO again and again and again
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>>91545088
Damn. I liked it when he wore the helmet.
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STAR WARS EPISODE VIII: THE LAST JEDI

>The Force has awakened, and with it, an ancient evil...
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>>91544941
He pulled a Darth Jadus (if he had really died) to fuck shit up because he was that much of a cunt?
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>>91545070
Phasma book by Delilah Dawson
Another Leia book around the OT time by Claudia Gray
Some kind of Luke book by a new author
4-issue comic run for Phasma as well

That's it so far
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>>91545064
make sure your battery is charged.
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>>91545106
REVAN
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>>91544966
>How can i stand out as an alien, but not be ugly gross thing with headtails or horns?
>I know, I'll just be an elf! It's still a cute human, b-but not, I swear!
>And then... dyed hair, so people know I am not like the other girls!
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>Post YFW "Rey's Lightsaber"
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>>91545064
>>91545088

Also Kylo Ren's theme was playing during that part.
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>>91545080
>woman covers herself up after having sex
"You just had your dick in me and came inside, but please don't stare at these tits that you were roughly fondling a minute ago"
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>Daisy stated a big part of Rey's arc is learning that Luke is not the hero she thinks he is

Luke being an asshole and ruined as a character confirmed.
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>>91544966
Are you threatening me master elf?
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>>91545051
Can't have anyone overshadow Hera as a pilot after all :^)
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>>91545114
It is anon, fret not. My autocorrect has been fucking broken as shit lately though. It thinks "because" isn't a fucking word all the sudden and I have to manually correct it every single time.
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>>91545128
I mean who cares
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>>91545117
Revan dindu nuffin wrong
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What are some good Legends comics about pilots?
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>>91544790
IT'S GREAT
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>>91545128
I mean she is the most recent wielder.
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>>91545138
These movies are awful.
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>>91545093

I can kinda see where they'd get the idea from.

Back in the old Marvel comics they did have Han briefly use a lightsaber and say it was kinda cool before tossing it back to the guy he borrowed it from. Leia got a similar scene in Splinter but Han comes off as having more to develop into because Leia was more or less a developed character out the gate while Han always seemed more dynamic because he changes over time.
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>>91545128
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>>91545158
Rey sucks and I want everyone to know this truth.
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>>91545129

he had a theme?
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>>91545128
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>>91545128
Didn't this happen with Dumbledore's wand/elder wand? I recall anakin's lighsaber going by "luke's lightsaber" depending on the merch
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>>91545181
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp433n4KzDA
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>>91545106
Is that the official synopsis?
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>>91545168
There was an old Rogue Squadron comic series.
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>>91545128
>Post YFW "Han Solo's Millennium Falcon"
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>>91545138

And autists will invariably say because there's thin justification and an eventual novel to try to make it look good they pulled it off. It doesn't matter what's actually in the movie.
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>>91545158
It's not a dildo?
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>>91545128
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>>91545128
>Lightsaber toy
>Uses bright red button to turn it on
>Not the switch on the side that actually turns it on
>Literally only Qui-Gon ever used a bright red button
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>>91545215
>Rey's Millenium Falcon
FTFY
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>>91545154

What gets me is that Hera has no relationship to the squadron. They couldn't even name one pilot when Fenn Rau attacked so they had to put Sabine in another A-Wing.

They never even mention that Rau killed a bunch of rebel pilots.
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>>91545187
It's obi wan's fault
for being a punk ass thief
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>>91545138
I'm a diehard fan who has loved and forgiven many things in the history of Star Wars that some would consider to be... unnatural. But I genuinely cannot abide this if true. If they destroyed Luke, they destroyed everything. The entire core of the franchise. Unacceptable.
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>>91545202

The difference is by the time they both lost it they'd both been using it for about the same time: Three years.

Rey has literally had it for under a week.
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>>91545128
FUCKING NORMIES
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>>91545128
Why is it okay when you call it Luke's lightsaber (it wasn't his) but calling it Rey's lightsaber makes you REEEE?
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>>91545246
...and suddenly I'm in the market for a good high end lightsaber
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>>91545293

Luke wielded it as long as Anakin did. Rey did not.
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>>91545132
Us Americans don't like others knowing that we look at titties in comics
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>>91545263
>Fenn Rau
Add him to the list of Rebels character I forgot existed
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>>91545293
It's not?

Luke's lightsaber is his green one, from Return of the Jedi.

You know, the one that's actually his.
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>>91545293
Luke's was given to him from a former jedi

Rey just

>oh whats this
>How did u get this
>"Story for another day XDD"

BRAVO JJ
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>>91545138
I would imagine Luke is very bitter and scarred over what happened

Also was he actually there when his academy and Jedi were destroyed?
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>>91545293
Because Rey is shit and I hate her.
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>>91545051
>Rebels treats both rebel and imperial pilots
Yeah, but other media is light on good pilot stories. Plus it's mostly regulated to short stories:
Blade Squadron
Scorched
Last Call
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>>91545311

I've always been of the school of thought that says you should just make your own from whatever is available. Plumbing parts, old flash light bits, and the like aren't actually that expensive.

Unless you want a full one with light and sound.
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>>91545293
fragile /pol/sculanity
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>>91545215
You mean rey skywalkers millennium falcon
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>>91545351
I still have a guide saved for the former, actually. Think I'll give that one a go.
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>>91545102
The more I hear about the ST the more I think it's just a bunch of people that try and replace the original ideas with their own. Remove Sith and Jedi and replace them with Not!Sith and Not!Jedi.
What do you think the Not!Jedi will be called?
Inb4 Knights of Rey
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>>91545391
You know, that reminds me.

Who was the original "Ren?"
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Don't worry

Pilot appreciation will come to rebels VERY soon
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>>91545075
I loved TFA and I feel this exact way about this new trailer. Will rubs me the wrong way.
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>>91545391
The Bendu
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This trailer was suspiciously similar in structure and soundtrack/tone to the trailer of The Force Awakens. It couldn't possibly by copying it, right?
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>>91545419
i can't wait to get to know characters that will die horribly!
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>>91545263
You know realize that if they bring back the Rogue Squadron series they will all have been taught by Hera, well minus Luke of course.
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>>91544898
Its the flashback scene with Phasma where they burn down the new academy.
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>>91545425
No no, they will be really creative: Jida
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>>91545446

Which would be fucking stupid. Rogue Squadron is LUKE's thing. They aren't Red Squadron.
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TCW marathon in finishing soon on cytube if anyone else wants to join
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So now that the dust have settled, is this gonna be the new ultimate qt3.14 star wars waifu?
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>>91545449
Holy shit he looks good there
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>>91545409
Snoke?
For all we know the Knights of Ren existed for a long ass time as a Dark Side cult outside of known space.
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>>91545138
If they shit all over Luke's character to benefit Rey I might kill myself.
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>>91545449
I keep seeing this, where is it coming from
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>>91545128
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>>91545509
The TLJ panel had some extra still shots of characters shown.
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>>91545419
post more scariff space battle webms
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>>91545480
Yes, but Hera is such an AMAZING pilot that she was the one to fly the first B-Wing :^) Sometimes I really hate Hera.
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>>91545502
Goodbye anon
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>>91545419
>>91545438
Wasn't one of Blue Squad's helmet art done by Sabine in-universe
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>>91544812
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>>91545128
Exactly what I would expect to happen. It is her lightsaber now after all.
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>>91545008
>he didn't read Lords of the Sith, where theres lots of mentions of twi'leks being sold into sex slavery and where the female Moff has a harem of twi'lek girls
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>>91545051
Pilots die all the time but it's constantly mentioned that creating a strike team and developing a fighter corps is a crucial element to the Rebels squad.

I wouldn't say that rebel pilots are made to look like towels, I'd say that they're just shown with a bit of realism. Your jaunty and inadequately outfitted teensy squadron isn't going to hold up well against Imperial pressure.
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>>91545502

I don't want you to die anon. Don't give them the satisfaction.
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>>91545502
That's the whole point of the ST.

The achievements and accomplishments of the OT cast have been undone just so Rey and these shmucks can save the galaxy.

Wouldn't surprise me if she's the real chosen one either.
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>>91545290
Could you possibly be more autistic? It's hers now, just like it became Luke's once Obi Wan gave it to him.
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>>91545520
>Sometimes I really hate Hera.
Only sometimes?
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>>91545480
>Rogue Squadron is LUKE's thing
Ehh, the Marvel ongoing alluded that the Rogues started as a black ops squad form by Luke,Wedge and Leia.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Stealth_Squadron
>Antilles: "I know Leia Organa's gotten us going by "Stealth", but we can't be Stealth forever, and I want the Alliance to retire the "Red" designation, in memory. So why not Rogue? We are Rebels after all."
>Skywalker: "I like it. And I know Biggs would approve."
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>>91545520

It's not even that Hera is particularly bad outside of some REALLY stupid shit. It's that the rebels staff writes stupid shit AROUND her. She doesn't tell the A-Wings to jump in time after putting them in Rau's sights and nobody ever calls her on it. She left a pilot to die in the spider cave and it never came up once. She treats them like shit and the story acts like she's an amazing leader for it.

>>91545557

Rogue Squadron had pilots die all the time but it mattered, because they bothered to give those pilots names and personalities.

It's not even realism. If the rebellion kept losing literally hundreds of thousands of credits in highly conspicuous modern fightercraft every engagement there wouldn't be a rebel fighter corps. Phoenix Squadron literally never had a decisive victory in their entire history. They just lose pilots then keep doing like it never happened.
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I wish Disney never bought Star Wars, if only to see the end of The Clone Wars.
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POTTERY
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>>91545650
damn...
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>>91545645
Why does the Alliance want to retire the "Red" designation? Is that also the name of a famous Imperial squadron or something?
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>>91545650
CALL UP MATPAT
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>>91545645

That's an EU article, it has no bearing on Marvel which never brought it up once.

Because instead of showing how the ANH cast developed into their ESB roles it's just them fucking about and doing big events with a bunch of OC's.
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Last year it was Thrawn.

What do you think tomorrow's bombshell Rebels announcement will be?
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>>91545645
Aw, they had a Trandoshan! I wish he still existed.
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>>91545695
X-wings because normies are insufferable.
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>>91545609
I like her when she's Kanan's waifu.

>>91545647
And she's set to become General Syndulla. Have fun with that.

Though to be fair I can see why they didn't bother with Phoenix Squadron seeing is it's pretty much dead now.

>>91545645
Part of me was actually hoping the Rogue Squadron would be a tribute to Rogue One.
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>>91545649

Frankly I'd rather Star Wars have ended. At least let it die with dignity instead of going through more of this shit for the world to see.
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>>91545715
fuuuuuck you
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>>91545715
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I don't get Filoni and X-Wings.
Who cares about X-Wings so much more than other SW stuff that he acts like they're for special occasions?
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>>91545719
>And she's set to become General Syndulla. Have fun with that.

I still wonder what the fuck she could possibly become a general for or a general of. Ghost Team fucks up constantly.
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>>91544797
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghHgrjT_Hfk
>"I'll tell you where i thought i came in"
>"In the forest when the lightsabre goes like this and flies off"
>"I said oh what a great entrance"
>"HUH?! Rey caught it?"
>"She hasn't even been to dagobah for training? What's the deal?"
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>>91545721
Even if Lucas kept the rights to Star Wars, then never touched it again after TCW finale, we'd still see mountains of cancerous EU every year for all time.
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>>91545695
Bounty Hunters.

The rebel cells are on the run. Now the Empire is taking more proactive measures to stopping the rebel scum.
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>>91545649
I wish Lucas had had the confidence to keep it and make the sequels he wanted. He genuinely thought no one cared anymore though. TCW had bad viewership because it got such a bad rap early on and practically no toy sales which made CN want to cancel it the entire time but since he paid for it entirely they couldn't really argue. He just felt like everyone hated him and that Star Wars was no longer popular. Pretty sad, but kind of his own fault for not thinking it through and really looking at what people had to say and now he's kicking himself.
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>>91545760
>>91545760

I'd rather if they were going to end it just end it. Wrap up whatever was ongoing and be done with it.
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>>91545695
Starkiller and the show finally stops looking like garbage
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>Luke is referring to Yoda's teachings when he said "Jedis should die"
>Luke found out the truth about Yoda's order
>Film is restoring the "Jedi means force user, light or dark" in the OT.
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>>91545757
based
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>>91545760
that so called cancerous eu would still have been better than the shit we're getting now
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>>91545715
>>91545761
These. We'll get Red Squadron and Boba Fett and Cad Bane.
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>>91545760
I'd prefer that.
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>>91545757
>"I'll tell you where i thought i came in"
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>>91545792
>there are retards who actually believe this
HAAH WAAW
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>>91545804
But Cad Bane is dead, anon.
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>>91545764
I love him to death, and I think Kathy or someone from Disney pressured him into selling.

>tfw no Lucas ST
There's nothing I wanted more.
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Rebel Pilots getting shit on?! Deploy Phoenix Squad!!
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>>91545786
>Film is restoring the "Jedi means force user, light or dark" in the OT.
It was never that way in the original trilogy. They even just released an extended scene where 'Sith lord' was supposed to be used in A New Hope.
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>>91545804
>Cad Bane
So you haven't heard?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbhMNFDvQM0&t=10s
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>>91545752
I wonder about that too. Can't be something too big since the Death Star war their first major victory.
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>>91545837
*grazes you with a tie fighter*
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>>91545846
>They even just released an extended scene where 'Sith lord' was supposed to be used in A New Hope.
hit me wit dat sauce
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>>91545760
ide bet george would have just kept the clone wars going past the clone wars, through the galactic civil war and eventually make a way better sequel era by season 25.
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>>91545760
I think I'll take that cancerous EU stuff over what the ST is doing to Luke thank you very much.
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>>91545862
>Clone Wars just turns into a Countdown to Final Crisis (but done better) type "backbone" of Star Wars canon.
oh mama
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>>91545757
That would have been awesome, even if it's just a deus ex.
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So are the Rebels TIE Fighters weirdly proportioned due to art style, or are they an older model of TIE Fighter?

I'd usually just say it was art style but the weird-looking AT-ATs in Rebels are canonically older models of AT-AT.
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>>91545786
Luke is simply training Rey as a new type of force user.
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>>91545851

And lets get real she has nothing to be general OF either. Mustache douche from Rogue One is in charge of X-Wing stuff and she has no ground experience. Why in gods name would she be made a general?
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>>91545861
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja4WudpzBYw
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>>91545861
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja4WudpzBYw
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>>91545914
>>91545915

>This is getting out of hand. Now, there are two of them!
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>>91545853
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>>91545824
>>91545849
That is NOT canon. Until they release a final version of that in Rebels or as a comic, he's alive. Period. End of discussion.
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>>91545914
>>91545915
thanks mates
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>>91545957
Jesus christ we've had this argument like 5 times
fuck off
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>>91545853
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>>91545939
You see that a lot if you read early SW stuff. The PT draws heavily from early drafts.
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>>91545202
I wish I bought that when it was still under $10 before DH. Now it's like $40. Even the original price was a bit much for a literal stick of wood.
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>>91545957
Filoni himself has said that the unfinished episodes are canon.
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>>91545901
Uh, logistics?
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>>91545914
>>91545915
>the cosmic force
well damn
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*blocks your path*
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>>91545982
Yeah, and we're not going to again because you're fundamentally, entirely fucking wrong.
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>>91545721
You could just stop watching you know, right?
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>>91545487
we thicc Aphra now
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>>91545502
Take some story group schmucks with you when you go, anon.
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>>91546007
That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works.
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>>91544966
How did pulse get in the star wars universe?
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>>91546023
>tfw white male

I lose by default
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>>91545880
>cancerous EU stuff over what the ST is doing to Luke
Legends luke was basically a Space Jesus. Shadow walking, can self heal from fatal wounds in hours, slows down time thru the force, etc.
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>>91546064
then how does it work, cupcake?
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>>91545914
>Tarkin is supposed to be hyper-competent
>only gets by by stealing recognition and others' accomplishments
>>
Is it wrong that my OC is literally just a guy who works on a Star Destroyer? i-is he a Gary Stu?

pretty comfy 2bh
>>
So is the ST just shitting on Lucas's vision and interpretation of how Anakin was the chosen one and that balance is the Sith being gone?

He must be so pissed that the OT has been made pointless now.
>>
I really can't wait for the sequel trilogy era to be as fleshed out as something like the Clone Wars era. I have a feeling it won't be that way until a while after the trilogy's over though.
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>>91544898
>scar is in wrong place

It's not. Driver has a wide brow.
>>
What is Darth Vader's best line?
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>>91546113
Why would he be a Gary Stu just for that?
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>>91546023
*hotglues in hair*
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>>91546079
>tfw
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>>91545890
might be an older model, just like how the AT-ATs in Rebels are older models
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>>91546092
But he also suffered a lot and didn't quit. Wife died on him, killed by ghis nephew and he sure as hell didn't go to some remote planet and spouted shit like "Jedi need to die"
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>>91546113
Did he build the Star Destroyer personally? Is he a Super Ultra Supreme Admiral? Does he have Force powers secretly? Does he fuck every hot woman he meets? If you answered yes to any of these questions, he might be a Stu.
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>>91544937
10/10 great misdirection and mystery. Perfect kind of TEASER Trailer.
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>>91546170
Any of his quips
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>>91546121
That's why he hated TFA.
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>>91544790
The new Thrawn book is incredibly fun.
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>>91546170
The scene where he chokes Motti is pretty great. But also:

>Be careful not to choke on your ambitions, director
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>>91545757
>>"I'll tell you where i thought i came in"
>>"In the forest when the lightsabre goes like this and flies off"
That would have been fucking wizard.
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>>91544937
Kind of a shit trailer honestly. Hype as fuck for the movie, but there's something very bland and unfocused about the trailer.
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>>91546234
>I bet you're wondering how I got into this situation
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>>91545487
Rey should've remained Kira and Kira should've been played by her.
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>>91546194
No he's just a guy who runs a console and tries not to get into trouble

he's really boring who would want to read about him
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>>91546079
nope just male
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So why is the Force being in balance a big deal?
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>>91545824
>>91545957
>>91545982
>>91546007
>>91546064
>>91546095


Its not like he got chopped in half and thrown into a bottomless pit. Calm down Autists its Canon and its NOT a death scene.
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>>91546234
Yeah, but JJ hates actual fun. I bet he must be pissed that Luke fucking Skywalker called him out on that shit.
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>Luke gets a red lightsaber
>Rey is all "BUT YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE PERFECT MASTER"
>'I am so fucking tired of cleaning the universe up. Every time, I get my shit kicked in'
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If I follow this, plus the honorable mentions, will it feel coherent?
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>>91546288
Cad Bane gets shot in the face and is killed in a clip that hasn't been specifically confirmed canon.
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>>91546308
The show already won't be coherent if you follow that. It's a shitty list.
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So the Force Tree stuff is confirmed, huh?
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>>91546308
The only way for it to feel coherent is to watch the entire fucking show.
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>>91546322
You saw him hit the floor not get killed.
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Man, imagine how stressful the events of Rogue One through A New Hope must have been for Alliance High Command.

>A superweapon nobody knew about shows up out of nowhere, nukes a city and pretty much the entire upper crust of that section of the planet it was on.
>Only knowledge of this weapon is hearsay from some teenage girl who's the daughter of an Imperial scientist that got busted out of jail two days ago.
>Half their fleet fucks off to an Imperial planet out of nowhere thanks to this girl.
>They lose their entire ground team, the ground team's reinforcements, almost all of Blue Squadron, one of their only capital ships, a bunch of transports and frigates, and a decorated Admiral all in one fight.
>Leia manages to escape with the plans but is captured a few days later. The entire Tantive IV crew is killed and as far as the Alliance knows, the only copy of the plans is back in Imperial hands.
>Alderaan is destroyed. This fucking weapon is way bigger than they thought.
>Suddenly this shitty freighter shows up with Leia and the plans, but they've been tracked so now the superweapon is now hovering on the other side of the planet.
>They're so fucked they let this literally who dirt farmer pilot their starship because they're out of options.
>Almost all of Red Squadron and Gold Squadron are killed.
>This fuckhead is the last one capable of doing anything, and he has the brilliant idea to fucking turn off his targeting computer.
>The Death Star is literally about to fire when it gets blown up.

I mean, yeah, they technically won, but FUCK.
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>>91546350
nope
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>>91546170
>"Then you will die braver than most"
>"Perhaps I was wrong"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76QnHMSDWwc
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>>91546308
At that point, you're watching 2/3rds of the show

Just watch it all man, make your own opinions. It's Star Wars, if you like Star Wars you'll know you gotta get through it all to decide what you like.
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>>91546308
No
just watch the whole thing fucker
>>
>No more Jedi
>Everyone talking "Oh that's so good, they were dumb in the prequels."
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>>91546372
yup
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Did they show Rebels trailer already? I didn't watch the celebration. Also, were there any new announcements yet?
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>>91546308
Watch the whole series in chronological order.
http://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-the-clone-wars-chronological-episodeorder
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>>91546023
>respond to the complaint about the lack of Rey action figures from 2015
>Lucasfilm responds with this
>generic girly girl dolls that look like Barbies

Could they be any more tone deaf? This is exactly what people DIDN'T want.
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>>91546335
>>91546354

Yes but what if i want to watch the show but secretly don't? hmmmmm?
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>>91546170
Angry yelling Vader is too good not include
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JygtTPaPVX0
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>>91546390
DOOD WTF? FORCE TREE CONFIRMED 100%
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>>91546308
Just watch the fucking show you faggot.
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>>91546396
Rebels panel is tomorrow I believe
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>>91546414
There's also that sacred-ish scroll displaying a tree.
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>>91546368

they probably blew a lot of money on spice and deathsticks after that.
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>>91546307
Nah itll be more like
>Rey: Muh friend are in danger we need ti go help
>Luke: nah thats what the Jedi would do
>Rey: omg i cant even! Wtf i hate you now
Later..
>Luke comes back and realises his wrong doing and saves Rey just in time

Classic disney
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>>91545817
yeah, fans that have been around longer than you and know more about star wars than you and enjoy it more than you
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>>91546390
That's a book shelf anon
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>>91546396
No that's tomorrow at 11am Orlando time. They announced:
>a shitty little flash show with female characters from all eras called Forces of Destiny
>Captain Phasma book
>Captain Phasma 4 issue comic
>Another Leia YA book written by Claudia Grey
>A Luke book that looks like it will show stories from different eras of his life including possible New Jedi Order shit
>Journey to The Last Jedi media franchise
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So does it plan on going back to the balance is between light and dark EU thing?
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>>91546308
Chronologically is the only acceptable order
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>>91546229
WHAT THE HELL JUST HAPPENED??? DOES IT LOOK LIKE I'M RUNNING THE DEATH STAR RIGHT NOW???

YOUR HIT ON THE CAPITAL CITY, IT DIDN'T WORK, MY FRIEND! AND NOW YOU'VE GOT MY DEATH TROOPERS RUNNING AROUND THE GALAXY DOING GOD KNOWS WHAT, AT 24 HOURS A DAY! HOW, EXACTLY, IS THAT MEANT TO HELP ME RETAIN MY COMMAND??
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>>91546390
Bendu confirmed.
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>>91546487
yo'rre'e are a book shelf
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>>91546491
That was never EU, that was 100% Lucas' vision and intent. There cannot be one without the other.
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>>91546368
There was probably a few unironic suicide-by-blaster's in the Yavin IV bathrooms because that is basically nightmare-situation

I wonder where Hera was
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>>91546412
After Rogue One it makes so much more sense that he's pissed off
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>>91546503
Either that or the feminist force tree leak.
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>>91546503
>Thrawn shoots Bendu.
>Bendu dematerialises
>Bendu voiced by Tom Baker
What did Filoni mean by this?
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>>91546521
>I didn't watch TCW
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>>91546530
Doing what Twi'lek do best. What they were born to do.
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>>91546504
Who is Yo'rre'e? New character confirmed?
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>>91546488
>A Luke book that looks like it will show stories from different eras of his life including possible New Jedi Order shit
So him getting a wife too?
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What did he mean by this?
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>Daisy Ridley says everyone she knows who saw a rough cut of The Last Jedi said it was "different"

Is this good or bad?
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>>91546543
>I'm a retard who completely failed to understand the 6 films and the Mortis arc


Stop posting. You know nothing.
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>>91546443
What, the Jedi order symbol?
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>>91546563
The book is apparently written by the author of Dandelion Dynasty suggesting that it's something to look out for.
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>>91546578
Good if you didn't like TFA, bad if you liked TFA and hate the Prequels
>>
Is it just me or is the universal reaction to TLJ's trailer kind of... mixed? The big curated platforms like Twitter and Reddit have nothing but praise but every smaller forum run by fans or with a smaller subsection only don't seem to think it's that great.
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>>91546499
Do you feel in command?
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>>91546588
100% against what was taught by the force priestesses.

The darkside is a cancer on the balance. Light is the natural state.
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>>91546590
Uh, ok?
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>>91545890
They're just stylized. Ultimate Star Wars initially had them as a different model but Pablo(iirc) confirmed that that was incorrect.
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>>91546488
What is there to write about Phasma?
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>>91546578
good

>>91546604
this
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>>91546632
Wrong. So fucking wrong.
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>>91546170
I've always liked "I find your lack of faith...disturbing."
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>>91546617
Mixed is good.
Rian has said he likes the PT.
We might actually get a risky movie.
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>>91546617
There does seem to be a general feeling of "meh" to it. Then again, that was pretty much the reaction to the Rogue One trailer.
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>>91546652
The comic explains how she got off Starkiller Base. Idk what the book is about.
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>>91546633
I fucking hate Luke though but it's an author that several anons keep shilling on /lit/ which has about a 50% likelihood of being good.
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>>91545983
>I am a genius!
>Oh No!
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>>91546170
I fucking love the way he says "But you are not a Jedi yet."
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>>91546170
WAT
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>>91546633
Oh I responded to the wrong post.
No idea if he's getting a wife.
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>>91546670
Explain anon.

This fact was imparted onto Yoda by the Force Priestesses.
>>
So it took me a bit to realize Luke was saying "breathe" at the beginning. I thought he was saying "leave... just leave" like that was the first thing he was saying to Rey
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>>91546685

The Rogue One "meh" was because of clunky dialogue and most of the actual positive buzz I saw was for the space battle at the end.

They put the battles in this trailer and it's STILL a meh.
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>>91545914
Really good scene, shame that it was cut.
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>>91546684
I like the PT, but I didn't like the teaser either.
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>>91546700
>I fucking hate Luke
>>
>Ben Solo is dead... H-he was weak, and foolish like his father, so I destroyed him!

>Anakin Skywalker was weak! I destroyed him!

Even though Rebels copied this line, did they do it better?
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>>91546747

>They put the battles in this trailer and it's STILL a meh.

that's because Rey is there.
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>>91546780
No. Not at all.
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>>91546764
I didn't like it either, but it might mean that it's not a just money shot movie (DUDE APOCALYPSE NOW LMAO) and actually has an interesting plot.
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>>91546780
>Even though Rebels copied this line, did they do it better?
Nah, I liked Ben's more.
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>>91546700
>I fucking hate Luke
How is it possible to have taste this shitty?
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>>91544812
you know if JJ stayed on I can see him doing something this fucking stupid

act 1 r2 saves them then we see his head survive beeping

act 2 meme-midget alien finds him

act 3 he shows up in the knick of time to save them "wheeo whiiiii WHOOOP WHOOP"
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>>91546747
The RO trailer music was GOAT, though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvSNVe-MMlQ
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>>91546780
Nah. Adam Driver is a better actor than any of the voice actors. Just the truth.
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>>91546785
this
Rey is just a character with no potential period. IMO
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>>91546617
At this point nothing will please me until I'm watching the movie. They're not going to show much in the trailers. Most of the stuff in the teaser was obviously just from the beginning of the movie too.

I am surprised more people here didn't get hyped at the jedi order's symbol. You'd think after months of whining here you'd see praise of a prequel thing in the sequel trilogy.
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>Snoke is a super hardcore jedi fundamentalist hence why he wanted ren to abandon his familial sentiments
>Thought he'd be restoring the jedi order to its greatness with luke
>Luke wants to teach balance and Snoke is dismayed because its not the true jedi way
>Is forgiving of anakins actions as darth vader because despite his fall from grace he was still the chosen one and eliminated sith lord sheev
>Manages to convince Ren and the majority of the new students that his way is the right way and forms his new jedi order, the first order
>Seeing luke as a threat to his new order, pehaps seeing him no better than sith, Snoke along with his new jedi knights of ren attempt to eliminate luke
>Everybody gets fucked up, their temple is destroyed and luke escapes
>Still sees luke as a massive threat and fears what would happen should Luke start training new jedi with his degenarate beliefs.
>Lukes ties to important people within the new republic also make him and the new republicc itself dangerous
>Musters up support from imperial remnants to oppose luke and the new republic and to eventually get strong enough bring a new order to the galaxy
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>>91546845
>hardcore Jedi fundamenalist
>teaches the Dark Side
"no"
>>
>>91546838
His performance was literally the only thing I liked about TFA.
But i'm still not sold on the character, writing-wise.
>>
>>91546817

No, I mean a lot of those communities are full of people who'll shill for their favorite franchise through thick or thin. I'm talking about the kind of people who'll say Andromeda was good or that TFA was an enjoyable film.

But they draw the line here almost universally. Which is weird.
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>>91546873
But Andromeda IS good, people who shit on the animations like they're a total deal-breaker are just being nitpicky
>>
>>91545438
is that really a critisism of this movie?

you cant enjoy a fictional story if the fictional characters don't survive to the end?
>>
>>91546838
Well, that's the truth. Too bad he looks like he's even more of an alien than Blendamed Cucumbersnatch or 11th Doctor.
>>
>>91546844
>I am surprised more people here didn't get hyped at the jedi order's symbol. You'd think after months of whining here you'd see praise of a prequel thing in the sequel trilogy.
I associate that symbol with the Legacy of The Force books more.
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>>91546845
That's sounds fucking retarded.
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>>91546617
I'm incredibly excited for the film, but the trailer isn't great. It feels like they're tiptoeing around a lot of stuff so couldn't show much in order to avoid spoiling shit. Also, the second trailers for both TFA and RO were both much better than the initial teasers so it will probably follow suit here as well. One thing I'll say is that Looper is a great film so there's a high chance the director has done good work here that we will just have to wait for the final product to see.
>>
>>91546867
>teaches the Dark Side
New republic propoganda
also ren's is just a goth
>>
>>91546892
It wasn't just the facial animations, the entire game was buggy as shit when it was released.
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>>91546892
Andromeda isn't good

The animations are just the funniest thing about them
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>>91546110
>>91546499
>>91546629
Fuck all of you
>>91546548
Sucking dick?
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>>91546893
Not to mention it's fucking star wars

Literally everybody dies
>>
>>91546892
Andromeda is not good by any standard of measurement. Animations are nothing, it has a bland story that develops exactly as you think it would, the characters are inoffensive at best, it suffers from the same kind of useless and meaningless sidequests infestation as DAE, and there's no sense of any real accomplishement in the end, since final boss is anticlimactic af. It's not bad, but it's just mediocre.
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>>91546964
>poggle-the-lesser
I love that name.
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Is it bad that when I saw the junky-ass speeders on that salt(?) planet, I thought they were podracers at first?
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>>91546892
But two of your partners in Andromeda ARE good, people who shit on the rest of the game like they're a total deal-breaker are just being nitpicky*


Fixed that for you
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>>91546589
Which looks like a tree.
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>>91546939

according to Mark Hamill, it's a teaser, not really a trailer.
https://twitter.com/GMA/status/852982333145853953
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REMOVE /V/

fuck's sake
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>>91546491
Between dark and light? Maybe, but not in the way the EU described. With the light, the brighter it gets, the more blind, arrogant and self important you become. With the dark, the darker it gets, the more murky, clouded and destructive you become. Both are extreme, and stuck in dogma and scheming. What Luke and the canon - as well as the Force if you intend to become a spirit, want is something a little simpler and arguably more sensible, in touch with reality and how things really are. So Bendu was right, to a degree until he showed imself as too stuck in his own nature. Kreia was right only in that the Jedi's teachings, well meaning as they may be, are wrong - but she became a Sith to prove it so that's a moot point.

So from what I can make out, this is a kind of retread of the founding of the New Jedi Order at the end of The Unifying Force. Only whatever results will not carry the name Jedi.
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>>91546985
I thought so too. Definitely evocative of it so it was likely intentional.
>>
>>91546985
i really hope this isnt the battle of hoth
if you look closely in that scene you can see walkers
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>>91545837
Sleggar law?
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>>91547025
Why would it be the battle of Hoth if that already happened anon? Just let it go.
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>>91544937
This timeline is almost making me miss the Vong/10.
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>>91547025

it's the Battle of Crait.
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>>91546985
This movie isn't about podracing.
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>>91546368
>Bail Organa died thinking Leia was dead, and the Rebellion routed
>>
>The Light. The dark. The balance... It's so much bigger.
BENDU CONFIRMED FOR TLJ
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>>91545534
tf is this droid
>>
>>91547045
That's it. Might as well be wearing red shirts under those suits
>>
>>91546308
I like to imagine that when the Rebels crew was making the episodes they saw this list, and decided to make Rebels as connected as possible, so that no one could skip episodes
>>
>>91547093
I'd love to see movie-quality CG Bendu
>>
>>91547057
Literally the only bad thing about the Vong is how it retconned Palpatine's reasoning for creating the Empire.

>>91547079
>Bail Organa thought Leia was going to be trained to become a Jedi.
>>
>>91547076
fuck you JJ
>>
>>91547014
The fuck are you spazzing about?
>>
>>91547057
>This timeline is almost making me miss the Vong/10.
So far we have
>Vong 2.0 Snoke Boogaloo
>Luke as an immense failure
>New Republic as an immense failure
>Jedi are going to die
>GREY SIDE IS REAL AND THE TRUE MORALITY
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>>91544760
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>>91547057
Almost? The Vong were so good. It sucks that they're gone. The NJO was a proper Star Wars story, very dramatic and epic. Many of those books are of a quality that Star Wars books ever since have never again reached except maybe the Legacy of the Force.
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>>91547187
Snoke is more like Krayt though and Ben is of course Caedus mk 2.

So TFA future is the bad end to Legends EU being the "good end"?
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>>91546985
A Podrace scene would have been better than Hoth 2.0
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Why is it so damn easy to farm (You)'s from /tv/?
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I wouldn't be too opposed to the elimination of Jedi and Sith altogether if it meant something new for the franchise.
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He was a good _____ .
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Is Mace Windu still alive?
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>>91547057
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>>91547277
Don't bring this shit here where it doesn't belong.
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>>91547283
Director of the death star project
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>>91547287
Iger looks like's he's made of plastic.
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>>91547277
Why do people care about height so much recently? 5 years ago, NO ONE cared if you were 5'9", but now it's like having a disability like Down's or Autism.
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Can we be reals for a second and recognize Ian McDurmond as Palpatine for a second?
He was fun and more importantly-
He looked like he had fun playing the character of Darth Sidious.
I absolutely unironically would want a stand alone "Sidious" Star Wars movie. Him doing his thing and showin how far his reach is and how smart he is and how his UNLIMITED POWERRRRR is while setting up more plans and shit.

And this humming theme alone is just awesome.

Props to Palpatine and the man who plays him I tell you what.
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>>91547285
If Maul and Boba Fett can survive what happened to them, I don't see why not?
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>>91545669
Probably because all but two of them died saving the day at Yavin.

Hang up Biggs' jersey, etc.
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>>91547334
Insecurity. It's the same reason cuck caught on the way it did (well that and it's a funny sounding word).
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>>91547334
>Why do people care about height so much recently?

Much like being a cuck, it's an arbitrary insult you can throw at anyone.
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>>91547301
>Allows traitors to sabotage project under his nose for almost 20 years, despite being their direct supervisor
>good
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>>91547336
I want that movie so fucking bad. Ian is a fantastic actor. Plus it would mean more badass Vader scenes. By far the best spin-off idea aside from a Boba Fett/Bounty Hunter movie.
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>>91547334
People have caught on
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>>91547368

This is basically it. Nobody actually cares as much as you do. It's the idea that it triggers you that has value.
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>>91547336
It's a shame that even though Ian has said repeatedly he'd love to play him again, they haven't capitalized on it, even as a cameo.
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>>91547093
>>91547111
I just assumed bendu was kind of shackled to atollon. I was thinking that he used to be a person but through deep force meditation on atollon he reached another state if being. Hence his simillarities to the planets terrain
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>>91547285
He definitely could be.

Jedi can fall from great distances, and even still, Coruscant is full of buildings and speeders and platforms so he probably didn't even fall very far before landing on something. Force lightning is also not necessarily lethal either.
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>>91547259
>Snoke is more like Krayt

Snoke is a pretty decent Prequel era character, tortured into become Mr. Darkside?
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>>91547415
Atollon didn't get blown up, nor did Bendu "die." The planet can still be visited any Luke or Rey.

You could also argue the tree thing at Ahch-to where Rey looks at the book of old looks similar to Bendu.
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>>91547285
Very unlikely but not completely impossible.

>>91547349
>Maul and Boba Fett can survive what happened to them, I don't see why not?
Maul only survived because of pure hatred and dark side teachings, but he's dead now.

Boba's fate is unconfirmed but presumed dead in the Sarlaac.

Mace is unconfirmed but presumed dead due to being intensely shocked by force lightning and then flung far out the window to fall for miles
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>>91547388
>By far the best spin-off idea aside from a Boba Fett/Bounty Hunter movie.

Hey, giving Ewan MacGregor the chance to play Obi-Wan in an inarguably good Star Wars movie is a good idea too.
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>>91547285
If he were, what would be a good reason for him to be? I mean, what kind of character arc/story could be told with him?
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>>91547414
Sadly, how good an actor is, and what they want, isn't enough. Even if the fans really want it, it's not enough.

There has to be genuine, uninimous agreement at Lucasfilm that it is the right thing to do, that there is a story, that its worth telling. It cant just be fanservice.

Did Sheev really need to cameo in Rogue One? Would it make sense? Not really. That's why Chopper and Hera got cameos, and Sheev didn't. They may not be as popular, but they fit for that movie.

Same reason why an Obi-Wan movie, despite being on everyone's wishlist, isn't happening. Lucasfilm have been pretty open about there being no story they want to tell with him on the big screen. I'm sure they'd all love to see Ewan on screen again, but hey also know it's not worth it to do it for the sake of it.
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>>91547492
I would enjoy that as well, but it is a far more limited premise that isn't likely to be picked up unfortunately.
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>>91547492
>in an inarguably good Star Wars movie

This is the only metric we have for inarguable. I could say that ESB has bad pacing cast ESB down to the same level as you have the PT.
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>>91547501
Punished Windu would be Snoke
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>>91547514
Vader didn't *really* need to be in Rogue One either, but he is and it's a better movie for it. Sheev could have similarly been included to good effect with a single scene if they wanted.
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Oh hey look a figure we're never going to be able to find in stores! How thoughtful of you, Hasbro.
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Does anyone have that quote about the Force being in balance when the Sith are gone?
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>>91547574
Is this real?! FUUUUCCCKKKKK
I'm still looking for Revan ;_;
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>>91547438
Darth Plagueis.
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>>91547574
Fuck yes I'm gonna have to get my hands on this
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>>91547572
Well it is his Star Destroyer chasing the Tantive IV, and the movie literally ends with the Tantive IV on the run, so they probably worked around that to justify him being in the movie

I mean, how can you NOT have Vader in the movie on the heel of ANH.

But was Sheev in ANH? Nope, just mentioned by name, so that worked enough for RO too
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>>91547232
>Jacen becomes one with the Force and defeats the Vong
>He then goes on to become literally Darth Vader and Sheev combined with the help of a Mon Cala admiral
>He has to be killed by his twin sister after she gets Mando training
>A man educated since he was kid about how his grandfather turned evil and then redeemed himself does exactly what he did because he was told LOL NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL ACCUMULATE POWER by a secret Sith Lord hiding out among the Vong since the time of the Old Republic
I will always hate that storyline. Krayt and and whatever Skywalker he fought were stupid as well, though the Fel Empire was kinda cool.
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>>91547574
>looks like the original book version instead of the ruined cartoon version
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>>91547693
Look closer
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>>91547657
That was my favorite personally. Jacen became my favorite character after Anakin Solo died and I liked him even more as a Sith.
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>>91547693
>pretending to be a Thrawnfag
>can't even tell the difference between the original and Rebels versions
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>>91547693
>ruined cartoon version
What are you talking about?
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>>91547769
muh pupils
muh lack of pauldrons
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PLACE YOUR BETS

Will TLJ make less money than TFA?

I say yes.
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>>91547797
Obviously
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>>91547797
no shit??

in what universe would it ever make more?
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>>91547812
The timeline in which TFA was good.
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>>91547797
No shit, thrawn. It will make more because the fucking hype for episode 7 was palpable
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>>91547797
Definitely
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>>91547797
Yeah, but I don't think it'll necessarily be the movie's fault. It can be amazing but it's not ever going to get the hype levels TFA did.
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>>91546170
NOOOOO
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELRdfkgN4j0

SIEGE OF MANDALORE CONFIRMED.

But probably just a ghost cameo
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>>91547812
>>91547797

I think the question is how much less or more.

I mean, interest in the trailer is fizzling fast outside of the most normie of normie circles. If you'd gotten invested since the last one you're seeing a whole lot of mixed reaction or general indifference.

I doubt it'll flop, but bad word of mouth is never a good thing.
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>>91547824
It doesn't matter if TFA was the second coming of jesus, there was so much fucking overblown hype for a new star wars movie that's impossible to reproduce for a sequel
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>>91547797
It will make a lot less if they pair Finn with the asian chick.
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>>91547783
Fuck people who hate the pupils and who think pauldrons looked anything other than silly on Imperial uniforms. Thrawn's canon, more-alieny look is much better than the designs Legends used.
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>>91547769
Aside from the fact that they made the Chiss look stupid with less glowy eyes and weird lumpy faces and his uniform being wrong (no epaulettes), he's totally downgraded from the original books. They made him a worthless mook set up to fail against the D list, bottom of the barrel Rebels characters during a time when the Alliance is weak and tiny when he originally kicked the New Republic's ass against Han, Luke, and Leia. It's a huge waste.
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So when are they bringing back Ahsoka?
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>>91547854
Lucas picks nice people.
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>>91547885
>less glowy eyes and weird lumpy faces and his uniform being wrong (no epaulettes)
Yeah you realize all of those are still on that toy, right?
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>>91547868
He looks like a blue chimp. Fuck off faggot.
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>>91545837
>Call in a IVP
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>>91547885
>Aside from the fact that they made the Chiss look stupid with less glowy eyes and weird lumpy faces and his uniform being wrong (no epaulettes)

Are you assmad that he looks like an actual alien now, and not a rejected blue man group OC?
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>>91547280
You are my man. Gonna get a whole host of new force user groups
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Shit, I got to remember to avoid /swco/ during announcements.
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>>91547885
Someone hasn't read the Thrawn book yet.
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>>91547885
>gets excited about the figure being like classic Thrawn
>proceeds to describe classic Thrawn
>at no point realizes that this description does not match the figure
Anon I think you may be retarded
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>>91547854
>Published on Jun 9, 2016
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The EUfag having his meltdown lately is really getting annoying.

It was funny at first, but now this "CANON RUINED EVERYTHING, WEDGE IS RUINED, THRAWN IS RUINED, KOTOR IS RUINED, LUKE IS RUINED" is getting really old
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>>91547885
I don't even like thrawn, but making him look like an actual alien and not just a blue human was a good move. Get checked.
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>>91547941
Sounds like he never actually read the Thrawn trilogy, which is strangely common with people who complain that Thrawn was ruined.
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>>91547941
I read the only three that matter. The new one is soulless, non canon trash cranked out by Zahn out of obligation and a desire to protect his legacy from further meddling.
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>>91547963
but everything except for Thrawn is ruined.
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>>91547963

Stop dickriding bad products and there won't be an argument.
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>EAfront II teaser has me more hyped than TLJ teaser
>Even though I liked TFA, hated EAfront, and don't have time for much vidya anyways
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>>91547963
He's right though. Sent.
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>>91546499
Director Krennic , the Emperor removed you from the project for a reason
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>>91547995
You first.
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Guys I found the real trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzpBS9cC83U
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>>91547987
>non canon trash
>non canon
Words have meanings, anon.
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>>91547995

>Stop dickriding bad products

like anything with the Vong in it
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>>91548002

EAfront knows they took a lot of shit for the last one and have to make up for it. So just a partial leak showed new ships, all eras, and a bunch of new stuff.

TLJ is made by people insulated from criticism.
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>>91547901
Hopefully never.
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>>91548024
And that reason was...?
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>>91548024
You're a cunt and you won't let me talk to him myself
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>>91548027
>>91548036

For every Vong book I can point to an X-Wing book or Kotor trade or something that's top shelf. You can't do the same.
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>>91546403
>This is exactly what people DIDN'T want.
as someone with a little brother who buys action figures, and a little sister who buys dolls; I can tell you that this is exactly what kids WHO WILL ACTUALLY BUY THE FUCKING TOYS AND NOT JUST COMPLAIN ABOUT PATRIARCHAL TOY CHOICES ON BUZZFEED do want.
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>>91547885
>Aside from the fact that they made the Chiss look stupid with less glowy eyes and weird lumpy faces and his uniform being wrong (no epaulettes),
All of those changes are objectively better. His unsettlingly blood red eyes look great with red pupils too. The epaulettes always looked extremely silly on him.

>he's totally downgraded from the original books.
He's written far better in Rebels and the new canon book than he was in the old trilogy.

>They made him a worthless mook set up to fail against the D list, bottom of the barrel Rebels characters during a time when the Alliance is weak and tiny
Clearly didn't watch the show.

>when he originally kicked the New Republic's ass against Han, Luke, and Leia.
Except for the part where he died.

In any case, he just wouldn't fit in the Canon Post-ROTJ era anyways, at least not unless he is part of the First Order or something.

> It's a huge waste.
Not really.

>>91547906
He doesn't. Fuck off faggot.
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>>91548088
This.
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>>91548002
I feel the same way.

Rebels is going to blow everything out the water though. This will be the third year in a row where Rebels wins Celebration.

>2015
>Predictable nostalgiabait trailer people only liked for Han/Chewie
>Battlefront was fucking nothing
>Rebels got to show off Ahsoka, Rex, but most importantly, motherfucking VADER

>2016
>Rogue One didn't even get a trailer
>Rebels showed THRAWN

>2016
>Battlefront 2 (which while looks cool, is following EAfront2015 and will never be able to hype anybody until it releases and is actually somehow good)
>TLJ was boring as fuck, and actually seems to be pissing people off with that Luke line, than causing hype for anything
>Rebels can show literally anything and will generate more hype
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>>91548109
For it's because Filoni is the only one that I can safely know Lucas is happy with, even if I don't like TCW as much as the PT like some people.
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>>91548109
Delusional. Nobody even watches Rebels.
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>>91548100
Funny how you lump the new canon book in with that shit show known as Rebels.
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>>91548088
Lando, Tarkin, Catalyst, Kanan, Rebels, Shattered Empire, Lords of the Sith, Thrawn, Obi-Wan and Anakin, Darth Vader, I could go on.
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>>91546170
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>>91548082
>Krennic comes to the meeting room
>"Director Krennic, didn't you know? We all wear funny hats now. It's a new policy."
>"Oh. Okay."
>next day Krennic gets a hat and shades
>everyone is hatless
>"Director Krennic, what is that you're wearing?"
>"But you you said hats were policy now!"
>"You didn't think I meant permanently, did you? Yesterday was funny hat day. How embarrassing this must be for you!"
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>>91548140
No you couldn't and none of those are good or on par with the the EU.
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>>91548140

>Lando

Wasn't even as good as the 80's anthology where he meets the space whales.

>Kanan

Isn't even in the list of top five post order 66 jedi comics.

>Rebels

Don't you have a crashed A-Wing to masturbate over?

>Darth Vader

Call me back when you have anything half as good as Ghost Prison, and that's not even the best Vader story.
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>don't like the new comics
>don't like the new cartoons
Why are you even here then?
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>>91548153
>everyone laughing at him while Krennic just sits there uncomfortably
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>>91548002
I'll be honest, I liked the TLJ teaser more than TFAs but I still feel underwhelmed by it a little.

DICEfrontII doesn't interest me all that much since I don't play too much vidya nowadays.

Rebels S4 may end up exciting me more than TLJ this celebration.
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>>91548210
>only shills and fanboys are allowed in these threads!
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>>91548131
>on /co/
>calls praise for a cartoon delusion
>and says nobody even watches it

Hey, hey buddy, guess what?

The Rogue One trailer from that Celebration has 3 million views.

The Rebels trailer that released the same day has 4.5 with overwhelming positive response in ratings and comments

Tell me again Rebels didn't win Celebration
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>>91548212
I like you
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>>91548243
3 million CTR Shill accounts, obviously.
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>>91548210
To bait. Most of them have never actually read any books, EU or nucanon, but they know how ridiculously easy it is to bait /swco/ about it. That's why they never go away.
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>>91548213

Hype is literally all rebels had going for it.

Remember those dark troopers who were generic noncombat models that didn't do anything?

Remember those red striped interceptors that didn't do anything?

Remember that sith holocron destroyed like three episodes in?

Fool me once anon.
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>>91548153
I want this to be canon
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Someone shoop motti with the cowboy hat
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>>91548267
Oh you figured it out, how foolish of me
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>>91548271
>liking the EU and giving the nu canon valid criticism is trolling or bait
Sent. Seriously. You need a fucking break from here. You're insane and a piece of shit. Grow up and get some fucking perspective.
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>>91548178
A New Dawn, Maul, Lost Stars, Aphra, that's all I feel like right now. It's fruitless convincing you considering you've read none of these.

>>91548198
Your opinions are all bullshit, but the Lando one in particular is just wrong.
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>>91548293
How would Tarkin have handled the destabilization of North Korea?
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So I'm analyzing the voices in the trailer.
So far i got Leia saying "You're my only hope" when she's in the shot.
And then Obi-wan's "Vader was seduced by the dark side of the force".
But I can't work out the yoda one. Anyone?
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>>91548328
>Sent.
What?
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>>91548139
Funny how you call something you haven't seen shit
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>>91548328
What is it that you don't like about the new canon anyway?
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>>91548342
>Blame Krennic
>blow it up
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>>91548243
Not him but Disney is really limiting itself by putting it on XD. I guess if I put some effort in I could watch it illegally. I catch the good parts on youtube anyways
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>>91548331
>A New Dawn
Not him but this was not good.
Especially with JJM coming off Kenobi.
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>>91548359
Funny how you automatically assume I haven't watched it you retarded assumption making shit.
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>>91548331
See
>>91548328


Applies to you too if you aren't the same person.
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>>91548363
He doesn't care. He's baiting you. Stop falling for it.
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>>91548366
I'm crying on the inside
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>>91548058
Because you've continued to use non-regulation gear, transports, and uniforms, and to mention the waste of special forces under your direct command. Those costs are holding back the Project's schedule. The Joint Chiefs, Colonel Yularen, and even Admiral Screed have agreed that you are jeopardizing the entire operation.
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>>91548342
Bomb it until South Korea is an island. Now China need not worry about refugees, or a westernized country on its border.

>also blame Krennic
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>>91548363
There's no way that guy actually reads anything in the Canon, he just wants to bitch because stuff he played or read 5-10 years ago has been replaced.
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>>91548343

"surrounds us"
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>>91548378
If you've seen the show you'd know it wasn't shit and that it handled Thrawn very well
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>>91548404
>I made the project work and took the brunt of all the criticism
>AND YOU SWOOP IN AT THE LAST SECOND
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>>91548383
>>91548413
If he's baiting, he won't reply. I'm the sort of stickler who needs confirmation.
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>>91548363
The stories are soulless, boring, lacking any artistic merit or integrity. They have nothing to say. Nothing of substance to contribute. Most are poorly written. They aren't even fun. The EU was always entertaining, always felt like a genuine Star Wars adventure that understood the spirit of the films. All of that is gone with the unoriginal, uninspired retread material.
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>>91548366
>>91548411
Krennic is the type of guy to accidentally leak critical nuke plans to the NKs because of a security oversight

Never put Krennic in charge of anything!
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>>91548415
Nah, I don't think that's it. This line was in Rey's force vision in TFA though.
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>>91548455
>The EU was always entertaining, always felt like a genuine Star Wars adventure that understood the spirit of the films.
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>>91548439
It handled Thrawn very poorly like they'd written a part for a generic villain and just inserted him in for the views.
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>>91548440
god damn they parked that ship a long way away, that was quite a hike
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>>91548455
Yeah, well, y'know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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>>91548441
>If he's baiting, he won't reply.
What? Of course he'll reply. He needs to string you along.
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>>91548455
>The EU was always entertaining, always felt like a genuine Star Wars adventure that understood the spirit of the films.

The EU encompassed hundreds of stories over at least three decades. There's no way you can tell me literally every single story in that was a winner.
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>>91548455
>understood the spirit of the films
by definition, ANYTHING in the EU that takes place after ROTJ does not understand the spirit of the films, considering that ROTJ was 100% the absolute final end of the empire by 1983, and reconfirmed in 1997 special edition. The only reason I give new canon's first order faggotry bullshit a pass is because the company responsible for the franchise says so, as opposed to being shitty fanfiction by a hundred authors who all hate each other.
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>>91548478

NuCanon is mostly just groping at the trappings of Star Wars.

We've been shitting on Phoenix Squadron but they're the perfect example. We have fighters to dogfight because that's what they did in the movies, but whereas ANH at least tried to show Luke and Biggs have a connection and camaraderie and have the pilots banter for a couple of lines all Phoenix Squadron does with a longer running time is get shot down. Since the death star battle had so many casualties now they have to die every time they sortie, and in mass numbers.

If feels like half of NuCanon is just doing things from the films out of obligation to justify whatever it is you'd rather be doing.
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>>91548455
>The EU was always entertaining, always felt like a genuine Star Wars adventure that understood the spirit of the films.
You're hilarious anon
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>>91548518
95% of them objectively, easily were. And that 95% was all significantly better than all of the new shit.
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>>91548440
Ah, you see Director, the Geonoisan laborers that you acquired from Poggle the Lesser were sabotaging the battle station. That is a risk we cannot take. Any breach in the construction's security is a dire threat that must be responded with extreme force. Fear will keep them in line... fear of the Empire's might.
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>>91548555
if that isn't the biggest selection bias I've ever seen
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>>91548440
>>91548560
their hatefucking would be a sight to behold
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>>91548555
>95% was all significantly better than all of the new shit.
You haven't read 95% of the EU, nor Canon

If you're going to bait and lie and shitpost, at least try and be believable.
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>>91548440
>>91548560

Fucking Empirepublic scum we help you get into power and what you do. Send some emo punk to murder me and then genocide my people after we built the super structure and interior. Fuck you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLfzh6zkIZo
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>>91548490
That statement there tells me you haven't seen the show.
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>>91548560
>I say we kill the Geonoisans
>all of them

>And also fuck you for taking credit for my project
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>>91548583
I have. It's not that hard to read everything they came out with as they were coming out with it. Are you a retards that can only read one book a year? No wonder you think the mindless, generic new trash is good. You're just unintelligent and illiterate. Pathetic. Now fuck off kiddo, you're done.
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>>91548342
>Single reactor ignition
>Fire when ready
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>>91548637
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>>91545764
Somewhere in the endless reaches of infinity there's a world where Lucas made a sequel trilogy immediately after the OT like he originally planned. A sequel trilogy with still-young Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, and Carrie Fisher. Practical effects and miniatures all around.
The knowledge that I do not have the power to reach such a world haunts me.
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>>91548595
>Art
Oh no, someone didn't appreciate the art, must pick him up and shake him to show how much I am an /ic/fag!

>Randomly kills one engineer who might have been
Oh dear, oh dear, we must make him seem DISNEY TIER threatening when he completely jobs to a bunch of children.

Funny how Pryce and Thrawn seem like actual people in the Thrawn novel. Really makes you think.
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>>91548539
This guy gets it. It's like half assed emulation and imitation of what worked before. No actual originality or fresh material at all.
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>>91548690
*behind the vandalism
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>>91548669
I feel it anon. I feel it. It was real. Somewhere, somewhen it happened.
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>>91548637
There is an uncommon structural similarity between the posts made CTR/Shareblue shills on /pol/ and the EUbaiters on /co/mblr, yet I cannot imagine what on earth they'd be doing here except possibly to false flag with SJW conspiracy theories. Can someone give me a quick rundown on Kathleen Kennedy?

It really makes me think.
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>>91548746
>he unironically thinks CTR/Shareblue shills are real
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>>91548787
They've literally got their own website trying to hire people, of course they're real. The question is whether they shill beyond /pol/. It's quite uncanny how the syntax and tone matches.
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>>91548746
I actually unironically believe that there has been an anti-SJW falseflag operation across the internet for a while, to justify pushing stuff as necessary, and to gain sympathy/acceptance for the non-white, non-male newcomers.

Remember that #BoycottVII hashtag that was trending, but if you looked at it, it was all just posts talking about how dumb it was, and how racist/sexist some fans are. But I couldn't find any seemingly genuine tweets as far back as I looked.

As for Kathleen though, she's just an old friend of Lucas who seems to be letting Lucasfilm follow in George's footsteps, I don't necesarilly believe she is trying to ruin Star Wars. She's just emphasizing the "grrrl powah!" side of things way too much.
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>muh Mara Jade
>muh Vong
>muh Xizor
>muh Sheev clones
>muh Jorus C'Baoth
>muh Joruus C'Baoth
>muh Luuke
>muh Breast
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>>91548859
I wouldn't mind having Xizor back, the rest can fuck off

Even breasts
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>>91548746
>Kathleen Kennedy
She's the one pushing really hard for girls to be the center of Disney SW. Whenever she gives an interview or participates on a panel you know that at some point she will talk about female taking lead roles
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>>91548690
>Art
>Oh no, someone didn't appreciate the art, must pick him up and shake him to show how much I am an /ic/fag!
That was a very realistic, small moment that makes Thrawn seem a little more real. He briefly grabs the guy and hisses angrily but mere moments later apologizes and returns to his normal demeanor. It's funny how later on you pretend Thrawn doesn't seem like an actual person but then complain about him acting like one here.

>Randomly kills one engineer
The engineer killed himself by sabotaging Imperial equipment. Thrawn simply made Sumar test it out, which revealed that he was a Rebel part of the sabotaging so Thrawn used him to make an example to the other workers.

>Oh dear, oh dear, we must make him seem DISNEY TIER threatening
What are you talking about here?

>when he completely jobs to a bunch of children.
He doesn't, though?

>Funny how Pryce and Thrawn seem like actual people in the Thrawn novel. Really makes you think.
They seem like people in the show too.
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Who would win in a fight?
Fif?
Or Nninn?
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>>91548857
I don't remember boycott 7 but I do remember a bunch of retards doing the same thing with Rogue One. It seemed half retard /pol/-bait and half controlled opposition. I'll never know the answer though. The Kathleen Kennedy stuff is just inexplicable. It's true she's pushing, but there's this one guy in these threads who constantly screams about this conspiracy theory that she's pushing a radfem agenda and usurped control of Lucasfilm. Beyond being farfetched and ignorant, it's a woefully pathetic forced meme, without any of the humor of the ironic bogpill.

>>91548909
>women in star wars
>women caring about women characters
HEAVEN FORBID
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>>91548857
Kathleen is killing Star Wars. Not on purpose, she's just an incompetent, agenda pushing moron like all feminists. That shitty new cartoon and the tie Barbie doll ripoff toys for it are going to be a financial failure. If she keeps it up, she may honestly get ousted. Disney is well aware of how the feminist tard who was CEO of Yahoo tanked her company last year by throwing all their money at Tumblr and aren't going to tolerate similar stupidity for long.
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>>91548971

Nninn is clearly larger and would eat the smaller Fif.
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>>91548857
See what I mean with this guy? It's worse than the EU defense force.
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>>91549001
>That shitty new cartoon and the tie Barbie doll ripoff toys for it are going to be a financial failure.

When it makes a billion and she's give the new title of Grand Moff Kennedy you'll be Krennec on Scarif in this metaphor.
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>>91549049
See, that's what I was thinking. Nninn even has a bigger pillow
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>EU nostalgia fags and nucanon kiddies continue to shitpost at one another
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>>91548988
>>91549001

I like how that guy showed up literally in the next post
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>>91549102
That comparison is insulting to Krennic. And Krennic usually deserves a lot of bullying, but that's going too far.
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>>91549102
You're dumber than she is if you honestly believe this. It's gonna flop.
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>>91549001

I think this is probably it. Kathleen probably wants to do the right thing, she just doesn't really know what that is.

Considering how TFA had to justify itself that much, and how TLJ is getting less hype, and Han Solo is getting a resounding meh in hype as well despite sounding good on paper, I think a reckoning is coming.

I think Disney is looking at what happened with Burton's Alice series and how it went from making upwards of a billion dollars to basically tanking after they invested that much into it, and know that previous success doesn't guarantee current success.

Last Jedi has no guarantees, and while I don't think such a failure is super likley, any amount of negative buzz will make them antsy. If this doesn't do well, heads WILL roll.
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>>91549001
>That shitty new cartoon and the tie Barbie doll ripoff toys for it are going to be a financial failure
Honestly it doesn't look like they're spending that much on it. Even if it does flop (I imagine the dolls aren't going to sell well but the show will probably do okay) it's not going to be some massive financial collapse.
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>>91549119
The nucanon kiddies are shills, pure and simple. No real Star Wars fan would sit and throw a temper tantrum all day at people liking the EU and voicing valid criticisms of the new material for being generic and weak. Nobody is that pedantic, spiteful, whiny, and autistic for free.
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>>91549189

Is the show on channel or XD? Big difference in expectations.
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>>91549102
>women caring enough about SW to give Disney a billion in SW girls' dolls
Is this the point where you try to convince me that pandering to feminism increases video game sales?
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>>91549001
I know I shouldn't rise to the bait but I don't see what's so bad about having more female characters in Star Wars and why a cartoon focusing on them is a bad idea.
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>>91549199
>Nobody is that pedantic, spiteful, whiny, and autistic for free.

You'd be amazed.
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>>91549205
Youtube
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>>91549219
Not that guy, but it screams corporate smugness to me.
They KNOW men will eat up any SW stuff, so they're making most new stuff female centric (including the ST) to double their profits.
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>>91549199
The irony of this post is lost upon you.

I saw this exact same post answer this exact same question in at least three different threads. That says a lot about the Alliance to Restore the Expanded Universe.
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>>91549238

Wow, even worse.
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>>91549205
main channel.

Its literally only two episodes long, people are acting like the new cartoon and toys are this huge new expansion.

It's literally just two special episodes, and 4 dolls. Would have gone over everyones heads if they didnt announce it right before Celebration, and instead let it float around all the other announcements this weekend.
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>>91549102
He has a point though, she has been pushing female characters just for the sake of her agenda, it would be okay if these characters were good, but ask yourself, were Rey or Jyn any good? Majority of people calls Rey a Mary Sue, and Jyn was one of the most criticized parts of Rogue One.
Just a final remark on this matter, but at the begining of the Disney transition Kathleen Kennedy was being praised for her work, but lately you can notice that there have been critics of her popping up here and there precisely because of this agenda pushing atitude of her
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>>91549205
It's on Youtube. Also flash-animated.
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>>91548912
>The engineer killed himself by sabotaging Imperial equipment. Thrawn simply made Sumar test it out, which revealed that he was a Rebel part of the sabotaging so Thrawn used him to make an example to the other workers.
As said in a previous thread, Thrawn did not know which engineer was colluding with whom and was not interested in finding out. An interrogation would have sufficed especially as the degree of collusion could potentially be widespread.

In TTT he witnesses the work of a tractor operator who is directly responsible and also asks his supervisor about the degree of the individual's training whereas in Inside Man he didn't care. Moreover, he is not limited just to ruthlessness in TTT as was the case when he was dealing with Mithel. Thrawn leads by honour and not by fear, if he leads by fear as he does in Rebels he is just an OC character they've slapped some CG over to attract views. (Which is why I'm not too pleased with Thrawn losing his temper over artwork, he never displays such an out of character action with Pellaeon or any other officer in TTT who doesn't appreciate this particular method of deduction, he allows the results of the deduction to stand for themselves. )

Moreover, the bike is just one bike. One can assume that the likelihood of malfunction is stochastic in probability and therefore testing should be applied to everything rather than one person on one bike. Ergo, Thrawn's actions are wasteful. Furthermore, his later actions with the AT-AT walker strategy in Zero Hour is quite wasteful with the walkers unless these were the walkers which were already destined to explode due to vandalism. Thrawn is traditionally very conservative with his pieces and I can't see him sacrificing a good number just to make a point.
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>>91549248
>They KNOW men will eat up any SW stuff, so they're making most new stuff female centric (including the ST) to double their profits.

Why is attracting a wider audience remotely a bad thing?
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>>91549273
>>91549238

Correction, First episode is going up on youtube in 8 parts.

Then the first episode, along with a second episode of another 8 shorts, will be aired together on Disney.
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>>91549189
The dolls will likely cost far more than the show to make, but the folly is that she is going all in on it when the toys look really shitty. Little girls pretty much universally want Barbies not Star Wars stuff, it's really that simple. It's not sexist or MUH PATRIARCHY, girls just inherently want a toy that they can play dress up and shit with.
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>>91549275
Rey is dogshit but Jyn was ok.
Underwritten, sure. But SW and underwritten go hand in hand.
Rey is ACTIVELY bad.
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Again notice how this guy keeps talking about Kathleen Kennedy's "feminist agenda" without ever ever EVER backing this claim up with anything so trifling as a source, citation, or evidence. He doesn't even have the deceitful self-esteem to make up quotes on the internet.
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>>91549293
Not really, just a bit frustrating to people who are seeing the ironic imbalance here
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>>91546375
>"Then you will die braver than most"
Seconded
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>>91549293
It's just that corporate mentality that's gross. That's not why George did things.
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Just watched the new trailer

Isn't it exactly what we had huge erections for?
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>>91548912
*
>What are you talking about here?
Because Thrawn simply allows the children to completely elude his grasp, it appears that Thrawn is completely incompetent and is not a threat at all. Therefore, Filoni et al fall upon the oldest Disney trick in the book which is to get the villain to kick a dog or rip the wings off a butterfly or something which is equally harmless and/or innocent in order to appear frightening to young children.

This tactic does not make a villain seem frightening, it simply makes Thrawn appear even more incompetent, out of character and the writers look desperate.

>He doesn't, though?
He openly says that he lets them go, in order to 'wipe the rebels out'. And yet, openly allowing a known set of rebels possessing 'Jedi devilry' which have already obstructed his plans and are unlikely to defect shows a complete lack of both characterisation and intelligence in Rebels,
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>>91549341
Yeah I don't know why people are so underwhelmed by it. I thought it looked better and more original than TFA and I'm excited as hell.
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>>91549324
George did what he did for two reason:
1. to not be told what to do by suits
2. to make a shitload of money

LSG has taken the reins in the form of Kennedy, Hidalgo, and Filoni, and a few others. They get to do what they want to without Disney execs breathing down their necks beyond "make sure it makes a shitload of money."
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>>91549341
What do you mean?
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>>91549317
>"I know precisely what you mean"
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>>91549341

>No plot threads
>No development for people who aren't Rey
>Every ship is a revamp of an OT model
>Walkers vs Speeders
>Luke gives up on the jedi
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>>91549305
>The dolls will likely cost far more than the show to make, but the folly is that she is going all in on it when the toys look really shitty
This isn't remotely the first time Hasbro and Lucasfilm have done this, so if the dolls are a flop (which they very likely will be because they do look horrible) it's not really going to be anything.
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>>91549317
>Everyone that Vader killed succumbed to fear just before dying
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>>91549396
>Luke becomes the Korra-Toph of Star Wars
WHY IS THIS ALLOWED REE
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I would love for usernames to be mandatory on /swco/ for just one day so we can see how much shitposting about certain subjects was all done by one person.
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>>91549393
Grey Jedi/ "Force users accepting that the Jedi were literalistic assholes and finding a Bendu-like middle ground is far better"

It's not just Luke going "GOTTA BE THE JEDI AGAIN"
It's Luke going "Yeah, if you make people hate themselves for feeling, you're gonna have some problems"
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>>91549392
The interest in money he had was in building up the Ranch and doing projects. He never wanted to be rich beyond financial freedom tier.
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>>91548857
Some people were mad about a black stormtrooper. Even though this was no longer the old empire and canon was moving away from the empire continuing clone usage b/c muh clones dindu nuffin.
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>>91549434

Except Luke did that in the EU.

He just didn't need to fuck off to a cave for like 8 years to figure it out.
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>>91549427
nah that's trash
temporary thread-specific ID's perhaps would be useful, and definitely flags (I guarantee you most of the worst shitpost flamewar bait will be made by Canadians), but dedicated permanent trip/namefaggotry is not welcome on any anonymous image board
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>>91548908
Breasts?
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>>91546170
His quips are just very good, but "Most impressive" for some reason stuck with me as a kid so strongly that to this day whenever i think of the word impressive i think Darth Vader
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>>91548912
*
I suppose that you cannot entirely lay the blame on Filoni for a complete lack of Thrawn that feels like Thrawn on any level except the superficial.

Firstly, Rebels is a children's show and the characters and deeds are oversimplified.

Secondly, it would make children cry to see their heroes killed.

Thirdly, the show is thus limited in what story it can tell.

Ultimately, is not handled well, in that the original Thrawn he is based off has shades of complexity that are completely missing in Rebels.
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>Pablo goes on a Twitter tirade a couple months back about how idiotic the concept of Gray Jedi is
>everyone assuming TLJ is introducing Gray Jedi into canon
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>>91549396
>>No development for people who aren't Rey
Have you seen the new poster?
It's Rey doing the Luke lightsaber pose with it shooting up into the sky.
But it's going from blue to red, with Luke and Kylo split.

I hope it's foreshadowing Rey falling and Kylo rising

Didn't you see the crushed Vader helmet? Kylo is going to the Light, baby
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>>91549341
We didnt see enough to really know for sure.

But we did see a Hoth 2.0, complete with airspeeders and walker, which is literally horrifying to all the people who joked about Episode 8 being a ESB remake

Couple that with Rey's training mirroring Dagobah, complete with a cave scene, and things shot downhill fast.

The most "new" thing in the trailer was the surprise that Luke seems to dislike the Jedi now, which is only pissing people off because its a 180 of his character.

So yeah, things... Didn't go the way we hoped.
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>>91549481
>I hope it's foreshadowing Rey falling and Kylo rising
>Didn't you see the crushed Vader helmet? Kylo is going to the Light, baby
I mean, we can hope.
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>>91549487
good summation
Still mildly hopeful though.
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>>91549454
The EU doesn't exist anymore

I'm glad it's becoming canon again though
In film no less
So even normies can experience it
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>>91549427
>rejecting anonymity
leave 4chan and never return, tourist
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>>91549475

Zahn's take on NuThrawn is something I legit prefer to the original, even though I don't like Rebels Thrawn.
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>>91549399
DC just did something similar with an all girl toy line and it was a huge financial loss for them actually. Disney has way more capital to play with for merchandising, but it'll still be a loss and they aren't going to just sit by and let Kennedy continue to double down on such things if it does fail. My hope is that this sends the right message, nips her shit in the but, and we get Star Wars back on track instead of more and more feminist pandering. If not, well, then she gets fired and it gets corrected that way. Either way, I think the business side of things may yet correct the issues currently killing the franchise.
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>>91549481

That's Ben's helmet, not Anakins.

You're making shit up to justify your delusion you autist.
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>>91549487
>because its a 180 of his character.
Is it though?

Luke has always been grey
Wasn't ROTJ huge on his greyness?

Combined with Ben going Columbine on his ass, it really should wake him up to thinking that the Jedi way breeds psychos like dear old Dad and nephew
Accept that people can feel bad and that's OK
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>>91549427
Sent. You are cancer and don't belong here. Take your hurt feelings to Reddit you nu canon shill bitch.
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>>91549553

So he was grey.

And taught his ways to people.

And they died.

But he's right. Ok.
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>>91549547
Nope
It was definitely Vader's

Kylo didn't have those curved lenses
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>>91549427

Get the fuck out and go back to Facebook.
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>>91549516
There's not really any difference between new book Thrawn and Rebels Thrawn except the amount of time we get to see them. Although the plot of his canon appearances are far less grand and spectacular than the Thrawn Trilogy, I find his actual genius to be put to use with more narrative coherence than in his original novels, where he was really just a walking deus ex machina. He was so full of plot hole bullshit in the originals its refreshing to see some actual tactical genius instead of an imbecile's interpretation of genius as magic. Additionally I made a point of this in an earlier thread I like Eli Vanto better as the Watson to Thrawn's Holmes because Pellaeon's characterization and appearance was given to Yularen in TCW.
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>>91549553
>Wasn't ROTJ huge on his greyness?
Not at all, it was supposed to be showing his temptations to the dark.

Remember at the time, the last time the audience saw Luke, he was being contacted by his father, calling him to his side.

Then ROTJ starts with Luke in all black, and what do we see him do? Fucking choke the guards, Vader's signature move.

ROTJ was supposed to push the idea that Luke is becoming like his father, taking the bad path, even unleashing his anger against the teachings of the Jedi.

And then, at the end, when it came down to it, he stood up, threw down his lightsaber, and declared himself a Jedi. He realized what he would become, and he said no.

The flap on his outfit even flaps open, showing it was white underneath the whole time, often unnoticed and underappreciated pottery.
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>>91549481
>>91549607
m8 it was Kylo's
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>>91549607

Vaders doesn't have the silver lining.
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>>91549607
Watch again asshat. It is very clearly Kylo's helmet. The very center where it zooms in is the silver visor.
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>>91549583
The New Jedi Temple may have been him trying to quash his doubts on the Jedi
Remember that in ROTJ he was all like "I am a Jedi, like my father before me"?
His new academy may have been a recreation of the best Jedi temple he could do

But if failed
Failed hard

I'm glad Luke is accepting of the grey
The Jedi shit is absolutely wrong if you want sane followers
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>>91549648
dumb KOTOR poster
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>>91549607
See
>>91545088


Not Vader's helmet.
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>>91549623

Book Thrawn is more tactical and doesn't start with force or threat of death. He has a place to escalate to unlike most imperials.
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>>91549634
>>91549635
>>91549644
OK you're right
Looking closer, it does have the arching loops of sliver

Too bad
It was a based helmet

But that just reinforces my point
Ben is rejecting the Dark Side.
It failed to make him stronger after killing Han
He is full of doubt.
He will come back to Luke
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>>91549478
This, i think i finally understood what triggered means
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>>91549703

He has yellow eyes now.

He's dark side.
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>>91549670
Accurate

But I'm not wrong
The Jedi as we saw them in the Prequels/TCW was a machine to make psychos
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>>91549732

There's more than one way to be a jedi anon. The idea that Luke HAD to do it that way is retarded.
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>>91549727
Thought so too.
But it was just light from the saber reflecting
Purposefully, obviously
I think in the actual scene, he'll pull the saber away and then reveal a blue reflection
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>>91549756
Have you listened to the Jedi creed?

If you feel emotions, you failed.
That makes most people into failures
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>>91549727
Where? The only shot of him is with the Lightsaber reflecting but they look normal.
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>>91549720
It's because people still think that there is a light side, thus a grey. There's not. There is only the Force, and darkness.
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>>91549516
Zahn's take on NuThrawn is identical to Outbound Flight/Choices of One/the other short stories honestly. It's just how Thrawn's character has evolved over the years, whereas, Rebels Thrawn is taken from one static snippet at the start of the trilogy and made more ruthless.
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>>91549778
>If you feel emotions, you failed.

You are allowed to feel emotions if you're a Jedi. You just can't let them overcome you and lead you on a dark path.
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>>91549757

Red doesn't reflect back yellow.

>>91549789

They also had a bunch of stills through the panel. One of them was full Dark Side Ben Solo.
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>>91549789
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>>91549816

Yeah, if it was a saber reflection there would be a red glow through the whole thing, but there's no red light at all.
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>>91549816
I don't know, it's pretty hard to tell what his eyes look like from the side like that.
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>>91549804
LITERALLY the first line of the Code
>There is no emotion

Whoops I felt anger about something
Guess I'm a shit Jedi

The Jedi raise psychos
The Sith recruit psycho megalomaniacs
They feed into each other.

Luke's grey shit is superior to either
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>>91549851
>LITERALLY the first line of the Code
>>There is no emotion
not canon
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>>91549851
>Luke's grey shit is superior to either

Luke has no grey shit. They dubbed over that shot with lines from Benicio's character.
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>>91549623
Yularen also feels as if he is more/present and active in his own decison making, whereas Pellaeon on a few occasions when he feels his own morality being somewhat challenged by Thrawn he rarely if ever responds. Yularen takes the intiative to find Thrawn and come to his own decisions although he initially suspects Thrawn.

Pellaeon's quite passive, like Vanto but on the other hand Vanto sometimes can't help himself internally whereas Pellaeon is more consistently generally moral.
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>>91549813
>>91549839
It's clearly a reflection of the lightsaber
Look at the angle
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>>91549816
Hux's uniform looks better now

still not as aesthetically pleasing as the imperial uniform, but it's a start.
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>>91549623
And I agree with what you said, it appears to me that Zahn's ability to make believable deductions improves over the course of the books alongside his ability to make more complicated plots and characterisation.
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>>91549280
>As said in a previous thread, Thrawn did not know which engineer was colluding with whom
Of course not, canon Thrawn isn't near-omnipotent like TTT Thrawn was.

He simply asked a random worker(who just happened to be Sumar in that scene) to test out the last bike they inspected. It turned out that he was one of the sabotagers. So Thrawn used the moment to set an example to the workers.

> and was not interested in finding out. An interrogation would have sufficed especially as the degree of collusion could potentially be widespread.
He was interested in finding out, he just used Sumar to set an example. He knows it's a widespread issue in the factory, it's the whole reason he was investigating. And he does use interrogation, we can presume the guy we see carted away for sabotaging an AT-DP was interrogated heavily.

>In TTT he witnesses the work of a tractor operator who is directly responsible and also asks his supervisor about the degree of the individual's training whereas in Inside Man he didn't care.
OR, he already did research on the degree of training of the workers in the factory and knew that the massive amount of failing products from this factory could only mean deliberate sabotage.

>Thrawn leads by honour and not by fear,
Not anymore.

>if he leads by fear as he does in Rebels he is just an OC character
No, it just means he's not 100% the character he was in 3 books in Legends.

>they've slapped some CG over to attract views.
He's been planned since 2014, and Filoni has wanted to do something with him since 2010. This has fuck-all to do with views.

>Which is why I'm not too pleased with Thrawn losing his temper over artwork, he never displays such an out of character action with Pellaeon or any other officer in TTT who doesn't appreciate this particular method of deduction,
Just because he acted one way in Legends does not mean that the Canon character has to act the exact same way. Also it wasn't about no respect for the method
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>so is this episode 8?

>what was rogue one?

Actual comment I just saw.
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>>91549944
Given the book, it's entire possible Thrawn expected Sumar to break down and confess and hope for leniency (which Thrawn may have been willing to give) instead of stubbornly trying to save face and not give away any info and getting blown up for it.
Of course this is a retroactive explanation, but that does not render it invalid.
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>>91549280
>Moreover, the bike is just one bike. One can assume that the likelihood of malfunction is stochastic in probability and therefore testing should be applied to everything rather than one person on one bike.
It was one bike from a factory with an unusually high failure rate

> Thrawn is traditionally very conservative with his pieces and I can't see him sacrificing a good number just to make a point.
He only sacrifices what was absolutely necessary to test the defenses, and all he sacrificed was some AT-DPs and a few soldiers. He keeps his real firepower in reserve.
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>>91549944
>Thrawn leads by honour and not by fear,
>Not anymore.
The crux of his entire character is that he is the Rommel and some of Sherlock to the other Imperials. That's how Pellaeon remembers him by, what Vanto comes to respect and Parck goes to the Hand for. Without that he is generic Imperial asshole: an OC character and Thrawn only in name.
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>>91549970
But Rogue One was when they got the plans for Starkiller Base.
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>>91549944
>Just because he acted one way in Legends does not mean that the Canon character has to act the exact same way.
And he acts like that in Zahn's work. Author's intent. Zahn stresses Thrawn's moral code. Author's intent. Zahn makes Thrawn's decisions seem empathisable despite being ruthless. Author's intent.

Zahn might say on his lips that he believes Rebel's to be good characterisation but the way he writes his canon novel says something quite different.
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>>91550038
Why can't you accept that Legends Thrawn and Canon Thrawn will have to be different, while still being the same character essentially?
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I think the Idea of Ewan and Hayden practicing their duel all the time is kind of cute. After a point practice feels like it would go from "we want to have a good, fast-paced fight" to "we just wanna play with lightsabers"
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>>91550131
You said this:
>If you've seen the show you'd know it wasn't shit and that it handled Thrawn very well
I said, it did not handle Thrawn well. Reasons A, B, C etc.
Now you said:
>Why can't you accept that Legends Thrawn and Canon Thrawn will have to be different
My definition of 'handling Thrawn well' is to be handled well with respect to the fidelity of his characterisation. A characterisation which is completely, as you say, 'different' does not constitute 'well characterised Thrawn', it is the characterisation of a character who is not Thrawn.
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>>91549371
>Because Thrawn simply allows the children to completely elude his grasp, it appears that Thrawn is completely incompetent and is not a threat at all.
Were you not paying attention? Thrawn isn't interested in the Ghost crew or Iron Squadron, he wanted the Rebel Fleet and Atollon base.

>This tactic does not make a villain seem frightening, it simply makes Thrawn appear even more incompetent, out of character and the writers look desperate.
This entire post makes you look like a complete buffoon who has trouble understanding the show.

>He openly says that he lets them go, in order to 'wipe the rebels out'.
Yes

>And yet, openly allowing a known set of rebels possessing 'Jedi devilry' which have already obstructed his plans and are unlikely to defect
His goal is to wipe out the Rebel fleet and destroy their base, not seek defectors. If he allows them to get more daring and take more risks it allows him to find their base easier because he draws them out

>shows a complete lack of both characterisation and intelligence in Rebels
It does not.
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>>91550184
>>91550184
>>91550184
new
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did the new republic declare war after what the first order did with star killer base?
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>>91549475
>I suppose that you cannot entirely lay the blame on Filoni for a complete lack of Thrawn that feels like Thrawn on any level except the superficial.
Thrawn feels like Thrawn. He's just not 1:1 the character he was in Legends.

>Firstly, Rebels is a children's show and the characters and deeds are oversimplified.
Star Wars is a children's franchise and the characters in Rebels and their deeds are not any more simple than anything else in the franchise.

>Secondly, it would make children cry to see their heroes killed.
It also just isn't necessary.

>Thirdly, the show is thus limited in what story it can tell.
It's not.

>Ultimately, is not handled well, in that the original Thrawn he is based off has shades of complexity that are completely missing in Rebels.
He is handled well, and is plenty complex in Rebels.
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>>91549396
Kylo already had twice the development Rey had in TFA unintentionally. I'd actually predict that his story will be the only interesting one while Rey will stay the static role model girl and boring.
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