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The Jedi must end- Edition

>Celebration Schedule:
http://www.starwarscelebration.com/Events/Panels-Screenings/#

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2017.htm

>Out This Week:
Thrawn (April 11)
Adventures in Wild Space #3 (April 11)
Doctor Aphra #6 (April 12)
Celebration 2017 (April 13-15)

>Download links: (Check here for new Rebels Episodes + Books, Comics, Films, etc)
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya

>Canon Guide:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t1KovH_1GYLDTAe3yrleeWiuzwulm670o_anQqr5Rcg/pubhtml

>Legends Recommendation List:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/147N5EgCnZmcPaDYvnGQwl9cn7BhBroFb7mD2C4cmWb0/edit?usp=sharing

>the trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB4I68XVPzQ&t=0s
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First for episode 8 trailer is shit
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trailer was shit
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>>91534668
>inb4 Luke is convinced he is wrong by the end of the movie
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our guy
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>>91534693

It was subtle!
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>>91534693
>>91534696
JJ please
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>>91534693
better than tfa 2bh

>>91534668
YOU FORGOT THE SUBJECT HEADER FOOL
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the guys doing a playback on the live stream are fucking awful. THey dont know anything, the crowd in the back is literally yelling at them that they are wrong
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>>91534696
>>91534693
First Trailers are always weak anons.

Don't you remember
>I REBEL
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>>91534702
nice Anakin scar
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>>91534721
She looks like Lena Headley
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>>91534668
>It's an Anakin was right episode

I'm hyped
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>>91534726
Thank god Lucasfilm got around realizing that line was lame and cut it out of the final movie.
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>>91534727
just like granpa
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>>91534719

The TFA trailer at least had the appearance of things happening.
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NO GHOST HAYDEN ANAKIN NO BUY
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>>91534693
>>91534696

Same as TFA, it's just the teaser. They only have a few minutes of the final movie far enough in production to use, so they have to cobble the teaser together with what they have lying around.
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>>91534753

The changed Jyn's entire character.
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>>91534727
>>91534754
Scar should've been bigger, but I don't know a whole lot about anatomy or whatever it is that studies healing properties in the body
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Holy Shit, the fat blogger fucks on the star wars show stage are so fucking cringey.
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I wonder if Hayden went home already.
Or if he's at Disney World.
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The trailer was bland as fuck.

I get it was just a teaser, but it was just vague shots of familiar things exploding, Rey doing poses, and then Luke's stinger which almost feels like he is completely different character.

What exactly am I supposed to be excited about here?

Rebels Trailer can't come soon enough.
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>mfw Luke doesn't change his mind

it's over, Jedi. someone else has the high ground.
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>>91534768
It was very similar to TFA's teaser, and it did it's job.
Next trailer when?
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>>91534668
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB4I68XVPzQ&t=0s
can we just like get Disney to make every movie?
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>>91534768
>so they have to cobble the teaser together with what they have lying around.

Those were some nice shots of Poe running in a hall, Poe running in a hangar, Finn lying down, Luke standing.
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>Rey, we really are Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
fucking really?
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>>91534554
Canonically the Journal of the Whills exists already. The Church of the Force has it in Empire's End.
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>Cuck Wendigo
muted
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>>91534795
Photoshop Hayden Naboo fields into Disney world
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Oh. Wendig.
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>KEK WENDIG ON SCREEN
>HE SOUNDS LIKE AN ACTUAL KEK
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>>91534795
He was shooting t-shirts this morning

>wendig
MAKE IT STOP
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>>91534779
>Scar should've been bigger

bruh
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>>91534668
>0:41 Jedi of Steel?
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/swco/ BTFO
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>wendig segment
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>that's how Wendig looks like
not surprised
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You guys think that single a-wing was L'ulo?
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>KEK WENDIG
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>>91534798
TFAs teaser had an ape hyperventilating in the desert and vague shots of familiar things exploding
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>>91534824
Wider, my mistake mane
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>>91534824
I wonder if Finn will show off his back scar?
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Where's the stream?
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>>91534668
>Redesigned X wings
>Redesigned A wings
>Redesigned B wings
>Redesigned Nebulon Bs
>Redesigned Tie Fighters
>Redesigned ATATs appearing in the second film of the trilogy looming in the distance on a white surfaced planet with some scrappy looking fighters that also use improvised methods to take them down according to spoilers
>Rey on a secluded learning the ways of the force with a powerful jedi hermit whos been in hiding for years
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>>91534768
>>91534768

The differences is on the same timeline we got those teasers six months ago.
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>implying Luke will not die at the end of the episode
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>>91534854
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgxO6mQI9k0

But don't watch it now Wendig is on
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>>91534702
>the lightsaber reflection in his eyes

Is it kino?
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>>91534864
It like Disney actually listen to the complaints of Force Awakens being too much like New Hope and actually made well on their promise.
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>>91534823
>ywn get a t-shirt from Hayden
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>>91534873
He won't. He's gonna die trying to nap talking to Try and become one with the Force
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>>91534823
He looks so uncomftarble
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>>91534873
>Solo ded
>Leia actress ded
Oh fuck.
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>>91534864
SAME SHIPS!!!!! 1/10
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>>91534864
They're not remotely Nebulon B's at all, they're the New Republic Starhawk Battleships from the books and the "B-wings" are totally different aside from the cockpit.
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Wendig is officially not doing anymore Star Wars books (as of now)

It's over /swco/

We won
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Hey, I'm looking through the books in the pastebin.

What do you run a epub file on?
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>>91534873
>>91534896

Episode IX. the Pottery wills it. (whills it?)
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>>91534919
I hope we get more abusing tractor beam shenanigans
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>>91534884
>Rian Johnson

yes
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>>91534919
just because it has a thing hangin down in the front doesn't make it the same any more than the Coronet from TCW or the Profundity from Rogue One is
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>>91534936
An e-book reader. so likely some random free app on your phone. No clue about PC stuff.
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>>91534702
The top part of his head doesn't even look all that weird. it's his jaw that's misshapen.
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>>91534928
Yessss. Time to celebrate. Send over some Padawans.
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>the best reveal of Celebration was that there is no Wendig book reveal
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>>91534787
Wait, they are really doing that?
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>>91534936
google
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>>91534928
Source?
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>>91534928
Are they that bad?
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>>91534919
Theyre clearly based on nebulons, the segments underneath are just more covered
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>>91534998
Someone post the TIE fighter line.
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>>91534983
>>91534787
I'm so sick of looking at this, he shouldn't be alive by the Battle of Endor, the aging process is too fast. I love Rex but fuck internet calm down
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>>91534975
We sent you 2 already, where are they? Why you need more?
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>>91534998
yes.
he's a massive SJW as well, straight up gave one of his protagonists "non-binary gender pronouns," he's a cuck
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>>91535025
Aging process is doubled. He'd be in his early 70s. Why couldn't he be alive?
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>>91534990
He was just interviewed on the stream

He is dong one short story, but thats it, his only other books are not Star Wars related.

He also said Mr. Bones is going to be in the Poe Dameron comic

>>91534998
Honestly, they're just really mediocre. Bad writing for a somewhat ok story.

Outside of the books, Wendig went on some SJW-tier rants, which is why many of us dislike him, beyond his meh books.
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>>91534983
>>91534787
Rex is still too fat
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>>91534936

Surprisingly, the best ePub reader on Windows 10 is Edge. They added the functionality with the recent Creator's Update.

If you're looking for a device, grab a Kobo, they're cheap and they work as a mass storage device so you just drag and drop books to it; no syncing, no 3rd party software, etc.
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>>91534983
Yes, they basically indirectly confirmed it on the panel
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>tfw no shots of new characters, just ships
>tfw no clear shots of the new T-80 X-Wings, because they're going Sanic speed.

I want to see Laura Dern's ridiculous hair. and whatever's on her head too.

>>91534948

the Trekkie in me says "yes!" and also hopes for deflector dish bullshit. but then again Star Wars has The Force, so they don't need deflectors to do Space Magic.
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>>91534702
Wait didn't Rey slice his lightsaber in half?

Does Ren have a drawer full of them?
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>>91534998
The stuff that happens in them is interesting. The plots' events are, strictly speaking, good. It's the tenth grade yaoi fangirl slash fic tier combined with Millenial's First Exposure to Left Wing Politics 101 For Dummies writing style that gets on everyone's nerves. Had the exact same stories been written by Timothy Zahn, they'd receive nothing but praise.

>>91534948
this to be honest family

>>91535012
aside from the proportions being all wrong they're also like ten times the size of the nebulons
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>>91535036
>he's a massive SJW as well,
>>91535043
>Wendig went on some SJW-tier rants
Son of a murglak.
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>>91535024
>The TIE wibbles and wobbles through the air, careening drunkenly across the Myrran rooftops - it zigzags herkily-jerkily out of sight
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FUCKING DISNEY WANT TO ELIMINATE THE ORDER JEDI TO BORN AN ORDER CREATED BY DISNEY

FUCK YOU DISNEY FUCK YOU
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>>91535071
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>>91534936
Calibre.

>>91535083
That's the kind of line that Ansible regularly laughs at.
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>>91534702
What's winter soldier doing in this movie?
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>>91535083
>It's a miracle I finished those books
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>>91535028
For research.
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So the last line was a red herring, right? New Jedi Order confirmed, Abeloth confirmed, episodes 10 - 12 being about Vongs confirmed.
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>>91534702
I feel like the scar doesn't make sense. It should be a different type of scar.
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>>91535050
Nice
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>>91535025
>>91535042

also this is in Space. they could probably come up with some Space Magic or Space Science to slow down the aging to standard human, or even extend it without going Full Sith. (like the juvenat treatments in 40k, or just chugging a lot of Bacta)
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>>91535088
>not wanting Duck Vader
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>>91535083
>this guy was allowed to write 3 books
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>>91535049
Does this 'kobo' play audio books as well?
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>>91535143
Didn't he write SW comics too?
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>>91535122
The most amazing thing about this is for some fucking unknown reason in 1983, they had this Rebel attempt to disguise himself as a Stormtrooper (which is basically Rex's thing in Rebels due to his past)

It's like destiny or some shit. Like they planned this random guy to be relevant 30 years later
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>>91535111
We got your "researches" on holodisc. You want say something to us?
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>>91535127
>>91535042
I just want his legacy to end before it has a chance to be tarnished. It's a good thing they ended maul's life, not that I'm shitting on him, people just run out of ideas eventually and start making shit
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>>91535102
I could barely stomach one book, took months of forcing myself to read it.
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>>91535181
No, he """""""""""wrote"""""""""""" the TFA comic, but it was just him basically copy/pasting the scrip into text boxes.
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>>91535083
Most professional writers say using adverbs is bad.

Wendig is such a bad writer that he makes up his own adverbs to use.
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>>91535185
I want the link or something to the full art you bastard
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>>91535185
ISB Agents, go away.
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>>91535172

No, it's just an e-reader. Material Audiobook Player for Android is a really good open source app.
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>>91534998
Holy shit yes. With the Old EU bad writing meant dumb shit. With Cuck Wendig bad writing means we get SJW bullshit in Star Wars, like the Empire persecuting gays.
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Guys they're not ending the Jedi. Luke is wrong.
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>Rey's dramatic reveal mirror's Finn's in TFA
>Rey's narration dialog mirrors Snoke's
>Ren's shattered mask mirrors Darth Vader's

Pottery, we've got pottery here!
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Ep 8 is going to be another shitshow isnt it?
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>We must ruin the west
What did Luke mean by this?
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So how likely is it that Rey finds some "balance" between the light and dark side or something?
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>>91535279
This, it's a fucking textbook case of red herring. If anything, he wants to end the prequel era flawed old Jedi order and build a new one, that will be similar to the old EU one.
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>>91534798
>and then Luke's stinger which almost feels like he is completely different character

It's literally been thirty years. People change. Motivations change. Reasons change.

CHARACTERS change. If he didn't follow through on the wishes of Obi-Wan and Yoda to kill Vader, do you really think he's going to try to resurrect the Jedi AGAIN after getting them wiped out YET AGAIN? When there's literally so much more out there other than the Jedi? Which is what this new canon has been looking to establish? This stuff was even in Lucas' notes and story treatments.
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>>91535291
Well, you only need to wait 1.5 year for maybe a good one
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>>91535300
That's going to be Kylo's job anon.
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>>91535083
I'd pay some money to hear that line said by David Tennant
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>>91535270
When did the Empire persecute gays? There was an openly gay Twilek-fucking Moff in Lords of the Sith.
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>>91535291
>TFA was shit because it did nothing new
>TLJ is shit because the new stuff it does are just fucking awful
What did we do to deserve this?
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So far so good, I like TLJs teaser better than TFAs
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>>91535300
>We're going to get Grey Jedi bullshit again
B R A V O
R
A
V
O
D I S N E Y
I
S
N
E
Y
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>>91534936
Google Play Books.
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>>91535083
What.
I'm being memed, right?
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>>91535185
She regrets nothing
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Well I guess if the Sith are gone for good it SORT of makes sense for the Jedi to go away, too.
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>>91535318
>wibbles and wobbles

Heartly kek
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>>91535300
As likely as it is that Trioculus and the Glove of Darth Vader will be recanonized
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>>91535331
No, Pablo confirmed there's no such thing as Grey Jedi. they will be Bendu
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where did this gray jedi meme come from and why does every single normie on facebook and youtube jerk them off?
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>>91535322
never, it's just cuck virtue signaling and pushing his agenda
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>>91535323
>>TLJ is shit because the new stuff it does are just fucking awful

We know exactly jack shit about the movie.

Luke is gonna karate kid Rey. Poe will probably have more to do. Leia is in it.

Kylo has a scar.
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>>91535390
EU
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>>91535384
>they will be Bendu
So what makes the Bendu different from a Jedi, anyway? Why would being closer to the dark side make it better?
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>>91535390
Kotor, and because manicheism is boring
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>>91535390
EU

The source of all Star Wars autism
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>>91535417
I'm mostly memeing anon, it deserves a chance

Teaser trailer was shit though
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>>91535390
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gray_Jedi
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>>91535417
Rey is still a Mary Sue

Luke is turning into a suicidal emo
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>>91535300
I assume the balance is the "so much more" that Luke refers to. Being the several other Force sensing/using groups in the galaxy. Institutions dedicated to upholding extreme dichotomies are dangerous. It's better to have those who represent the Force as it naturally is to keep the Dark Side in check, because light and dark will war on forever and ever, taking the galaxy with them. Whether that also means a true new generation and type of Jedi is up for us to see later.
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>>91535390
>why does every single normie on facebook and youtube jerk them off?

Well you see good and evil a is a childish fantasy, real MATURE EDUCATED ADULTS know there's only shades of grey and caring about anything is for CHILDISH LOSERS.

now read my 500 page manifesto about how star wars should have more topless women

pay attention, you will have to take a written test afterwards to remain my friend
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>tfw they cancelled Sarah Michelle's femdom and BDSM panel
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>>91535390
From the garbage side of the EU
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"First comes the day
Then comes the night.
After the darkness
Shines through the light.
The difference, they say,
Is only made right
By the resolving of gray
Through refined Jedi sight."
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Apparently people are starting to point out that the "it's time for the Jedi to end" are actually two lines meshed together, and that "to end" is Del Toro's voice. Sounds like grasping at straws to me but holy shit if Disney swerved us this much.
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>>91535417
Finn is there. There's explosions. Might have some lightsaber stuff.

totally gonna be shit, anon. this two minute clip proves it.
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>>91535513
Step 1: Denial
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>>91535390
Same people that jerk off to mandos and Revan
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>>91535025
Same here. I think it's interesting if did have Rex on Endor, but I still think Rex should've died around after Episode 3 and not become part of the Rebellion at all. It just bugs me a bit knowing that Luke barely knew his father, yet he fought alongside a clone trooper who fought beside Anakin for years. As well as that, we will probably never see how Rex goes out.
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Why all the hate for gray jedi ?
And please don't mention the fandom, just in-universe arguments. Also try to limit the use of buzzwords such as "fedora" or "edgy".
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>>91535451
>Rey is still a Mary Sue

Rey is a female character you don't like

>Luke is turning into a suicidal emo

Luke is bitter and withdrawn. His jedi academy burned down.

It's better than the "unhinged" Luke idea they had for TFA where he was going to be genuinely suicidal.
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>>91535482
If they actually turn Star Wars into space Witcher, I'm done with the franchise. I'm so sick and tired of MUH REALISM AND GRIMDARK SHADES OF GREY in fantasy, it's painfully overplayed.
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>teaser just looks like a rehashed empire strikes back

What happened to original ideas? Wasn't that was Star Wars was about?
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>>91535441

Remember how bad Rogue One's "I Rebel" trailer was?
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>>91535566
Star Wars is a rip off of Samurai movies.
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>>91535566
Prequel haters killed original ideas
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>STILL no Ahsoka movie announcement
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>>91535592
Thank god.
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>>91535547
Because "Jedi" by definition are an order based in the light side of the Force. If you no longer follow their teachings you can no longer label yourself a Jedi. Also it just stinks of special snowflake shit. Look at me I can toe the line of the dark side but I'm just so skilled and powerful I don't fall to the dark side!!
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>>91535600
Wasted Dubs
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Howbout those character images from the panel? I honestly wasn't expecting Kellie's to have a qt hairbun
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Did anyone else find Lucas's response to the questions at the begging of the 40 year event kinda depressing?
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>>91534693
>>91534696
It's called a teaser, impatient fags.
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TALKIN ABOUT MARA JADE ON THE LIVE STREAM

CANON CONFIRMED
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>>91535566
>What happened to original ideas?

They've never been in star wars.

>Wasn't that was Star Wars was about?

No, star wars is about re-jiggering fantasy archetypes and japanese samurai films into space opera.

With a healthy pull from john carter of mars, commando cody, buck rodgers, and flash gordon.
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>>91535611
Wasted Dubs
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>>91535589
this. people like to shit on the prequels but honestly there are so many iconic moments in them that are memorable and fun

yet if you asked a person an iconic moment from TFA they'd probably just say the ending
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>>91535606
Borderline jedi like Qui-Gon or Vos are pretty cool tho
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>>91535431

not being dogmatic fuckups like the Jedi (see: the Prequel Trilogy)
but also not being devoted to evil like the Sith.
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>>91535588
Aye but Star Wars was new when it first came out.
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>>91535482
Explain why the way it was should continue
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>All these people defending the ep8 trailer
>"B-BUT 'I REBEL' WAS CHEESY"
Yeah, it was cheesy, but the Rogue One trailer was actually exciting. TLJ trailer is boring as fuck.
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>>91535650
Oh definitely. Qui-gon is the best Jedi.
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>>91535626
Link or quote please
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>>91535669
Only to you.
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>>91535644
And that mix was good but Disney is quite literally copying the old movies, scene by scene.
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>>91535676
this
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>>91534816
what the fuck I just googled it and you're right. That's so stupid I don't even know what to say. It defeats the whole purpose of the Journal of the Whills and everything Lucas has said about it in the past.

how the fuck can the Star Wars Saga be "taken from the Journal of the Whills" if it was already written during the events of said saga. That's like if halfway through the bible Jesus held up a copy of the New Testament and was like "have you guys read this? it's great!"
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>>91535676

It's a teaser, not a trailer.
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>>91535644
>we have yet to see a King Lear/Ran type of deal yet

would enjoy seeing that in star wars
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>>91535676
This
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>>91535697
>obviously nobody thought star wars was new at the time and therefore flopped

Nice thinking retard. How about you go back to /tv/.
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>>91535680
Yeah Qui gon is chill asf.
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>>91535721
Maybe it's being constantly expanded and added to?
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>>91535735
>sales and normie thinking means the movie was good!
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>>91535650
Qui-Gon wasn't a borderline, he just headbutted a lot with the Council
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>>91535547
Gray Jedi, as most people understand it, is effectively a force user that freely uses the dark side and sees the "light side" and the dark side as something that needs to be equally in balance. This not only goes completely against the Jedi philosophies and the applying this naming to the view is sort of like saying a Satanist Catholic since Jedi is not a catch-all term of force users and is instead an order/religion.

A real Grey Jedi is a bit more akin to Qui-gon. Still follows much if not all of the same beliefs as the Jedi Order, particularly on how the force works, but differs in some ways on how certain things should be carried out.
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>>91535600
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>>91535088
I saw this coming ever since TFA was announced with a destoryed Jedi order. I want other kinds of force users anyways, but not Jedi and Sith, which the whole franchise needs to get over. Like the Baran Do Sages, more wizards like the Nightsisters, straight up knightly orders who aren't pacifist like the Jedi. It's all I want out of the sequel Era, and I'm pretty sure I'm going to get it. Glorious holy wars between this sect and that sect with outrageous force powers will dot the franchise for decades to come. Maybe KOTOR fags have got it figured out: Kreia was right (about the Sith and Jedi being stupid as the only major force user paths)

I'm sorry it has to be this way, but a reconstructed Jedi order is not only boring but straight up hubris after the blindness and failure of the Order in the Clone Wars. Even before then they were rotting, and now Luke has failed to rebuild them, and the Republic falls. The old regime before the Empire cannot be restored and maintained, and I love it. That does not mean there will be noble groups in touch with the light, or benevolent masters of the arcane ways of the Force. Just no Jedi, and could we ever really say Lukes order were truly Jedi when they were only a fraction of the ten thousand knights that stood before the fall of the Republic? That great order of Knights failed to protect the galaxy, and they will never arise to their old heights again. Too bad this is gonna cause endless butthurt

>>91535331
>Grey Jedi
No such thing, never will be, just as boring and uncreative as a restored Jedi Order. You can't be a Jedi if you don't follow the teachings of the Order
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>>91535721

it's probably been changed. the Whills didn't have Guardians running around either. or blind guys being able to use the Force to dodge blaster shots like that Chirrut guy without also being a full-on Jedi or Sith.
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>>91535736
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>>91535547
Grey jedi are bullshit because the approach to the dark side that it depends explicitly runs counter to what's spelled out in the films. The dark side consumes you, and the set of powers that come with that side of the force come at a tremendous cost. We see the dark side consume Anakin, we see Yoda warn Luke about it dominating his past, and absolutely nowhere in the films are we given any indication that the dark side can be safely tapped into.
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>>91535764
If the Jedi Order literally gets destroyed Disney's gonna get fucking death threats.
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>Disney ruins another franchise
NEWS AT 11
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BASED WARWICK IS BACK
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>>91535778
This is an Evian bottle ?
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>>91535763
I'm perfectly serious.
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>>91535650
Borderline? There's being a Jedi of the Order and a Jedi of the Force. The entire Order was the former. Qui-Gon was the latter, and went on to instruct Obi-Wan and Yoda of this finding. Anakin too may as well been of the latter, having no real ties or care for the Order itself but rather for people. He was swayed by the Dark Side for a while, but in the end he cared more about people than any ideology.
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>>91534873
>Star Wars Episode IX: Everyone Is Dead

>Opens with Lando waddling into the Resistance headquarters with a smile on his face
>"hey everybody, what'd I miss?"
>BB-8 turns to the camera and makes a "uh-oh" beep
>laugh track plays because John Williams is dead and they couldn't decide who to replace him with so they just decided to use stock audience sound effects instead of a score
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>>91535802
The fuck is the Making Rogue One panel
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I feel like /swco/ liking the sequel trilogy is a lost cause at this point. /swco/ thinks of the sequels in the same way normies think of the prequels.
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>>91535804
It's where he keeps his Qui-gon gin
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>>91535675
>Explain why the way it was should continue

Obi-Wan says for a thousand generations the Jedi were guardians of peace in the galaxy.

The Jedi of the prequel trilogy are show to be very inconsistent, sometimes sending Jedi on secret missions to negotiate treaties. And eventually they were drawn into the clone wars and even given military ranks and honors.

Mace Windu allowed the jedi to transition from being true keepers of the peace to soldiers all too easily.

The PT era Jedi were too unwilling to challenge evil openly, and instead allowed them selves to become a systemic part of corrupt institutions.

Gray Jedi actually epitomize many of the behaviors of the PT jedi council. Being a "gray" Jedi is not a magical solution to the conflict between good and evil in the universe. They just really needed more actively good Jedi.
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>>91535827
The difference is that we actually have good reasons for disliking the ST.
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>>91535815
>Borderline? There's being a Jedi of the Order and a Jedi of the Force. The entire Order was the former. Qui-Gon was the latter, and went on to instruct Obi-Wan and Yoda of this finding. Anakin too may as well been of the latter, having no real ties or care for the Order itself but rather for people. He was swayed by the Dark Side for a while, but in the end he cared more about people than any ideology.

This sounds like Space Catholics vs Space Protestants.
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>>91535827
I still have hope, I'll need to see more to decide what I think.
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>>91535827
I want to like the sequels, but I have many valid reasons why I just cant. They're doing just about everything they shouldn't.

I loved Rogue One though, so it's not some kind of anti-disney, anti-OT contrarianism.

I just want good Star Wars movies.
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>>91535721
>>91535752
This most likely

The bible wasn't written all at once either
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>>91535792
You were saying? Also Yoda isn't the be all end all authority on the force by a long shot
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>>91535827
/swco/ is not one person. I like the sequel trilogy so far and enjoy most of the new canon. We're just being flooded by /tv/ and /pol/ contrarians like every Celebration and post movie release.
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>>91535816
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>>91535760
>Harshing my Gray Jedi vibes man. What are you going to do, take my lightsaber? Oh shit what are you doing, your stripping the force from me? Fuck man I take it all back. Pls stop
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>>91535860
You Are right but the New Testament was not written until after Jesus died.
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>>91535588
>>91535644
>inspiration means stealing

I hate this site
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Just as Star Wars is a lot of things, that's likely to be one of them
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>>91535792
> absolutely nowhere in the films are we given any indication that the dark side can be safely tapped into
Form VII
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>>91535928
The point is that the ideas were not original.
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>>91535721
>That's like if halfway through the bible Jesus held up a copy of the New Testament and was like "have you guys read this? it's great!"
Do you know anything about the bible?
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They're saving the weirder and prequel looking parts of the movie for now guys.
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>>91534702
Huh, so Star Wars tech can heal away that nasty a wound with just that level of scarring?

I wonder what kind of wound Anakin got to get his little scar.
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I can't really see how using the dark side in addition to the light side somehow makes you balanced.
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>>91535827
Anybody who dislikes even a single Star Wars movie, let alone any of the trilogies, isn't a fan and doesn't belong here. Period.
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>>91535827
>/swco/ thinks of the sequels in the same way normies think of the prequels.
You do realize normies like the prequels right
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>>91535928

I never said stealing, bro.

no one owns fairy tales.

star wars has ironically come to epitomize the space opera genre.

now everything gets compared to star wars in some way. even the sequel trilogy
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>>91535951
>Form VII
Isn't the darkside aspect of that non-canon?
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>>91535827
ST isn't over, i'll wait after episode IX to give the veredict
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>>91535760
I thought most people thought Gray jedi just made different decisions not necessarily drawing from the dark side occasionally
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>>91535993
>mfw I'm not a fan
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>>91535993
Rubbish.
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>>91535792
???
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>>91535951
>Form VII
What about it?
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>>91534919
>Still no capital ships for the republic

Look at the size of those windows, they're pretty damn small ships. Is it just going to be another battle where the bad guys have star destroyers and shit and they're fighting a rag tag group of small ships?
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>>91535083
I used to hold my wrirting to such high standards and self-critique but this just makes me want to say fuck it because apparently you can just send in a first draft and it'll get published.

that's as bad as the line in the 5th Game of Thrones book about Daenerys having diarrhea in the middle of the desert
>Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was shitting brown water. The more she drank, the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew, and her thirst sent her crawling to the stream to suck up more water.

turns out she wasn't taking a shit but was actually giving birth to Chuck Wendig's entire career
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>>91536003
>star wars has ironically come to epitomize the space opera genre
Video games?
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>>91535951
Dark side of it was made non-canon
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>>91535951

Was used by Darth Maul and basically nobody else who didn't also fall to the dark side besides Mace Windu, who had to reinvent the entire thing from scratch.
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>>91535043
>He also said Mr. Bones is going to be in the Poe Dameron comic
Based. Everyone wins.
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>rewatching the trailer

When Rey says "light" and Leia is shown from behind, the audio playing at very low volume is "Help me Obi-Wan Kenobi"

Right before she says "darkness" I'm pretty sure Obi-Wan (Guiness) says something about the dark side.

And then when the books are shown in the tree, something else plays, but it's indecipherable to me.

It's almost subliminal.
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>>91536013
The common person's understanding of the force comes from game mechanics from KoTOR/2, Unleashed, and Jedi Knight 2/Academy. Which basically means that to them, constant Force Lightning/Force Choking is totally cool as long as you have mostly good intentions.

At least that's what I've seen from people in person/online. If you've seen differently, you've got a much less retarded crowd you're running with.
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>>91535993
You must be new here
Everyone knows real star wars fans hate star wars
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>>91535036
>>>/pol/
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>>91535114
I would honestly prefer Abeloth and/or the Vong to more Jedi/Rebellion vs Sith/Empire with analogues of the latter for the PT and ST for the 10th time. At least it'd be a new threat that we haven't seen instead of a new threat that we've seen but this time biggerer and more evil

>mfw Disney goes the literal route and gives the Vong a Death Galaxy
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>>91536093
Maul used form VI not form VII
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You little shit you don't like Sand people!? Fucking rEEEEEEEEe
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>>91536096
How is Mr.Bones gonna be in the comic if he gets vaporized on Jakku? I mean I guess maybe Snap builds a new one.
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http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mark_One_Starhawk

Where those ships Starhawks? For some reason the Wook put them here.
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>>91535036
>protagonist
>character only mentioned in a side story interlude and has no bearing on the story
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CUTE!!!!!!!!!!
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Every day the EU becomes more nostalgic
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>>91536129
Fuck off faggot
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>>91536111
"seduced by the dark side"
The one talking in the book shot is Yoda
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>>91536164
They fit the description of Starhawks in the book pretty much exactly. They're supposed to be the New Republics main warships now.
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>>91536179
You showed me, anon. You really proved that you're not from /pol/.
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>>91536177
>muh corruption
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>>91536132
Filoni said that if they would ever do Vongs (and they will, considering that they were supposed to be in Clone Wars and they are planning to do episodes 10 - 12), they would be severely nerfed, because Lucas hated the idea of beings that are immune to the Force.
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>>91536111
>>91536187
>And then when the books are shown in the tree, something else plays, but it's indecipherable to me.

I'm like 50% sure now it's Yoda saying his monologue from ESB about energy and the force.
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>>91536164
>Check the edit history
I wouldn't trust that m8
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>>91535315
unless you're talking about The Adventures of Young Indi- Han Solo, Episode IX was confirmed to be shit the moment it was announced Treverrow was going to write and direct it. Rian was our last hope since TLJ could still be good and he's also writing the story for IX. If TLJ is shit then everyone may as well give up.
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>>91536140
>maul shows up with red blades behind you
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>Harry Potter cribs
What did they mean by this
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>Post YFW Kyle Katarn anthology film announced starring Sam Witwer
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>>91536117
Which is always strange to me. I always presumed giving into negative emotions is what gives you those powers, you can't just decide to use them.
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>no third anthology movie announcement

reeeeeeee
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>>91536211
>Episode IX was confirmed to be shit the moment it was announced Treverrow was going to write and direct it.
(You)
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>>91536175
>small talk with warwick davis
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>>91536257
Could be announced at the closing ceremony

At the very least, I'd expect the Han Solo movie's official title
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>>91536283
oh shit am I missing more bantz today?
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>>91536129
>le /pol/ boogyman XD
>>>/reddit/
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>>91536289
Yeah, it's ultra bantz
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>>91536289

yes, a girl asked him a question and he got out of his seat and picked up an envelople labeled "better questions" and handed her one
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>>91536289
I hope so, but it will be just half an hour long
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>>91536254
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>>91536289
Batnz between Warwick and audience members
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>no cute SS cosplayers at celebration

REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>91536322
W E W
E
W

I never had any idea Warwick was so based.
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>>91536289
It's basically bantz hour, he's inviting people up and shitting on them.
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>>91536303
>le shitposting
>>>/tv/
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>>91536303
>unironically using cuck
>calling someone a faggot
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>ywn have a YUB NUB license plate
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>>91535482
desu Star Wars should have more topless women

but in all seriousness I hate how sterile and sexless the Star Wars universe is. I get it's for kids but is the audience really that different from Indiana Jones or the James Bond films? I was the same age I was when I was introduced to Star Wars as I was when I was introduced to those, maybe a little older with Bond but still.

I mean there's genocide, murdering of innocent children with their dead bodies shown on screen, and even a movie where every single main character is killed horribly, but not even fade to black, off-screen sex?

Sheeiit, even Doctor Who hasn't pretended sex doesn't exist, and that's probably watched by even younger kids than Star Wars is. I WANT ANSWERS
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>I'm 12
based crowd girl

She's the 12-year old star wars was made for
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>>91535483
W-What?
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>>91535566
yeah Star Wars was about an original idea called "what if Flash Gordon was in The Hidden Fortress"

if I didn't know any better I'd say George Lucas isn't as creative as he's made out to be...
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>>91536042
we have no idea what the scale is we only see them for like 2 seconds

and besides we know that mon cal cruisers are still around
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>>91536393
Han Solo movie with sidekick Lando should be interesting
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>>91535958
>>91536003
wh-
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>>91535760
So a Qui-Gon-type Gray Jedi is just a Jedi that understands the real world doesn't follow some strict dogma? I can deal with that
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>miss TLJ panel
>open stream just in time to see based warwick
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>what was it like for you growing up..not literally.

holy shit
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>>91536415
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>>91535906
thank you, that was exactly my point. It wouldn't have made sense for him to know about it because it's written about him after he dies.

I'm not even religious and I know that
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>>91536454
That was from a question warwick gave him

the entire thing is warwick taking the piss
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>>91536419
>lucas pitches a movie that's inspired by many different sources
>disney makes carbon copies

Truly /tv/ was right once again...
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>>91536470

I thought the guy added it on the end of the a question just about growing up
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5qTGqBkpqY
based Prince telling it like it is, no gray Jedi faggotry
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>>91535687
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTqmkkw22vs
Begans at 3:34
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>>91536419
There's a difference between 'internally derivative' and 'many external sources', anon.
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>>91536470
Because he'd bitch and moan if someone actually said that to him.
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>It's time for the Jedi to end

I swear if they're going for some bullshit "grey Jedi" end to this

I have to be one of you faggots and jump the gun on rage while we have way too little footage to go on

I don't want emo Luke
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>>91536393
>there's genocide, murdering of innocent children with their dead bodies shown on screen, and even a movie where every single main character is killed horribly
And this franchise is supposed to be fun and kid-friendly...
>>
T H I C C LADY
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>>91536254
holy shit he should always have a beard, I'd have thought it'd cover up his based jawline but it only accentuates it

>also mon visage
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DEM TITS
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>>91536494
>source needed
He was literally in a show called lifes too short and has made a ton of jokes at his expense.
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>>91536339
dude has been the go-to guy for a short character in a sci-fi/fantasy movie ever since he was 11. He's lived the dream, plus he's funny as fuck. See:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW6VenOC2Fw
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>>91536393
Big titty overly sexual Zeltron character when
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>>91534928
>We won

Nope, only that the slate is taken by other books. He can come back anytime in 2018 or forward.
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>>91536555
>I have aids
One of my favorite videos
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>Carrie hanging around set in her gold bikini
:_;
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>>91536558
I liked the DH comics.
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>tfw they cancelled Rinzler's TFA making of book forever because JJ knows how massively he fucked up.
Rinzler himself said there was a lot of stuff about George's original drafts in the book.

>yfw George never cancelled any of Rinzler's PT books
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>>91536604
>You will never be an OT member dork around on set with Hamill and Fisher in their prime
seems like the comfiest time
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>>91534998
They are basically as bad as a book can get and still somehow be published. 50 Shades of Grey tier garbage. Easily and by far the worst books in the history of Star Wars expanded universe material.
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>>91534668
>being trained by a old hermit Jedi
>speeders going up against what seem to be imperial walkers, the Falcon, X-Wings and a Vader wannabe
Eh. It just feels familiar to the old trilogy shit which is stuff I've already seen. They lost me by play it this safe when starting a new trilogy .
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>>91536617
>ywn do coke with 22 year old Carrie
I don't even do coke but damnit that sounds fun.
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>>91536609
They might release this stuff once the ST wraps up, because Lucas's ideas likely have spoilers for 8/9

But yeah, I think most people here are 100% convinced Lucas's ideas were better than what we got in TFA.
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>>91535792
>and absolutely nowhere in the films are we given any indication that the dark side can be safely tapped into

So that must be why Mace Windu and his super special snowflake ability to use the dark side at no cost exists, huh?
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>tfw Return of the Ewok looks like kino
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>>91536646
>BOBA FETT! He must've heard I was up for the part
Absolutely based.
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>>91536641
where does it say mace uses the dark side
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>>91536608
They were objectively better than anything Marvel has given us. KotOR and Legacy were fantastic.
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>>91535676
Both trailers are garbage. Rogue One is garbage except fot the third act. Hoepfully EP 8 is good
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>>91536628
this
At least 7 makes you appreciate 4 all the more.
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>That wickett dress
Fuckin lel
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>>91536669
Agreed, Marvel's SW comics have been unremarkable at best.
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>>91534668
Haven't read through the thread, so excuse me if this has been brought up, but does this not hit many of the same points the pre-TFA leaks touched on?

It's almost like the leaks from just before TFA came out were actually for this. The "balance" stuff, the idea that the jedi need to come to an end (the theory I think at the time was that if one was to stop they other would, due to the "balance").

I will say I think Luke's line at the end is just cut off and it finishes along the lines of "the jedi need to end... the conflict that has waged for centuries."
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>>91536693
Most of them have been pretty great, though.
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>>91536663
That's the entire point of his fucking character, you mong. Read any description about him and it'll always mention that he can use the light and dark side together.

>Mace Windu was a powerful Jedi Master who possessed highly advanced skills in both lightsaber combat and Force abilities. As a duelist, Windu favored Form VII—also known as Juyo or Vaapad, the seventh form was considered the most aggressive and unpredictable version of the art of lightsaber combat. Though more prominent among dark side users, Windu was able to master the form without falling to the corrupting influence of the dark side.[48]
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>>91536681
>Rogue One is garbage except fot the third act
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>>91536732
yes
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>>91535853
>There aren't good reasons to dislike the PT
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>>91536693
In your opinion

>>91536706
Yeah the teaser was literally nothing.

Not hyped at all, will wait for the next trailer
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>>91536732
Great tits too.
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>>91536737
>quoting from the wook
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>>91536733
Vader was amazing at first, but the conclusion was weak in my opinion. Last Command handled Vader's visions of Padme much better.
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>>91535721
You know how history books eventually include new sections for the past 5-10 years in new volumes? There you go.
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When is the Rebels panel?
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>>91536778
Once Vader got too Aphra-y is when I stopped liking it. I just don't care for her.

But the main SW comic has been solid for the most part, and I can't think of a mini that I've outright disliked. Almost all the art outside of Larocca and fucking Deodato is great too.
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>>91536793
http://www.theforce.net/story/front/The_Star_Wars_Show_LIVE_From_Star_Wars_Celebration_Stream_Schedule_173276.asp
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>>91536737
Doesn't that info come from Star Wars: Absolutely Everything You Need to Know, a book with the disclaimer that most of the stuff in it came from Legends?
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>>91536737
>Though more prominent among dark side users, Windu was able to master the form without falling to the corrupting influence of the dark side.
That literally says he doesn't use the Dark side you illiterate faggot
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>Warwick speed taking selfies
What a madman
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Looks like bland shit other than this shot.
Is this the Bendu?
Or where the leaks right and it's the feminist force tree?
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>>91535721
>It defeats the whole purpose of the Journal of the Whills and everything Lucas has said about it in the past.
Literally comes directly from Lucas. The Church of the Force is from Underworld.
>That's like if halfway through the bible Jesus held up a copy of the New Testament and was like "have you guys read this? it's great!"
That literally happens multiple times in the Bible.
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why does the ST hate jedi so much
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>>91536825
>shrunken
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>>91536816
B A S E D
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>it's a /swco/ gets preemptively mad by jumping to conclusions episode
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>>91536833
Because normies whined about muh monks muh no Han Solo character in the PT.
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>>91536816
Did the same thing last year but the setup was better this time.
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>>91536806
I wasn't big on Aphra either, especially the whole Ordu Aspectu thing in her own series.

I liked the Yoda segments and the lightsaber wielding Stormtrooper.
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>Warwick panel is over
feelsbadman
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>>91536733
No, they really haven't. Vader is the only ok one, but it got really stupid really my fast. The Mon Calamari Grievous? The obnoxious overused LMAO KILL ALL MEATBAGS AMIRITE psychopath droids? The stupid doctor villain that clones himself? Mary Sue Ahora? All of that shit was awful. And NONE of Vader's dialogue felt right at all. The action scenes of him killing everything were barely worth suffering through the rest of that fan fiction stupidity. And that's the best thing Marvel has even don't! There's no argument to be had here, go back and read the Dark Horse stuff because you clearly haven't if you actually think this.
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>>91536822
it looks like they're inside the force tree
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>>91536732
>>91536747
>>91536754
>>91536825
pics?
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NO NOT THIS GUY
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>>91536852
>No one to tell 3po to shut the fuck up
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Everyone can go home how, nothing interesting for the rest of the day.
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>>91536913
But when will we have the Rebels panel?
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>>91536913
Carrie Fisher tribute.
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so whiney
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this guy is so fucking annoying
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>>91536929
Tomorrow at 11.
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>>91536913
Mark Hamill's Carrie Fisher tribute later might be nice, but otherwise you're right.
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>>91536289
Yesterday George was making short jokes while sitting right next to Warwick Davis.
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>yfw big black cock
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what happened to the rogue one making of?!?!?!1
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>>91536970
Attendee exclusive.
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Old Republic animated series when?
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>>91536983
It was on the streaming schedule though wtf
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>>91536986
Never, the market is nowhere near big enough
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>>91536361
>everyone who replies to a post is the same user
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>>91536986
Never ever. We're more likely to get an animated series set either between IV and V or VI and VII.
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What Yoda says is "the last of the Jedi you will be"
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>>91536986
Haha
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>>91536852
the only Jedi Knight we knew before the prequels was Luke, and he was relatable and had a personality.

In the prequels they were suddenly celibate monks who thought emotions lead to evil, especially love, which is like the universal emotion for an audience to identify with. So they were ultimately uninteresting characters for the audience because we couldn't relate to them. They had as much humanity as R2-D2. In the originals Obi-Wan had a personality even though Alec Guiness didn't really want to be there and it's kinda obvious, and Yoda was comic relief at points, especially when we're first introduced to him.

Compare that to Mace Windu sitting around and saying "I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi" 10 times without doing anything about it until Anakin is like "Sheev is a Sith Lord" and Mace keeps walking at the same pace as if there's no urgency at all.
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>muh wymyn panel next
JUST
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>>91536833
>second movie called the last jedi
>is all about jedi lore
>hates jedi
Ok, anon.
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That guy backed up real quick lol
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>>91536859
>and the lightsaber wielding Stormtrooper
I love that arc.
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See the twist is that the movie refers to the Last Jedi as plural but then its going to be the Last Jedi as singular after the movie ends lmao
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>>91537035
Lucas always described Yoda as a sage/guru

The prequel-era Jedi have tons of personality. Admittedly, this shows best in TCW, but even in the movies Anakin and Obi-Wan (where 95% of Jedi focus is) are portrayed as very charismatic characters.
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>>91537032
Do people really not like the technological plateauing?
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>>91536870
>There's no argument to be had here
Jesus christ, learn what opinions are.
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>>91537058
His whole backstory was interesting.
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>>91537032
God how is Pablo so fucking based?
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>>91537032
I agree. The videogame Old Republic era did a disservice to the comic Tales of the Jedi era which was so archaic compared to what we understood to be Star Wars that it truly felt alien, even with some similar iconography.

KOTOR shows up and is clearly heavily influenced by Phantom Menace's technology and world design, to the point that it completely stagnates technology in-universe for thousands of years.
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>>91537078
I really didn't like it. I wanted it to actually feel like it took place a long time in the past, when really it feels like it could have been a year before TPM.
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>>91536983
mfw
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>>91535721

>Like prophecy and straight out seeing the future don't exist in star wars.
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>>91537128
>pic
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>>91537032
>>91537117
>>91537102
>/co/ hates KOTOR/TOR now

Wtf
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>>91537102

He's at a stage in his life where he has no reason to care. Lucasfilm needs him enough to not casually fire him, he gets bombarded with stupid fan questions on twitter every day, and even he doesn't actually LIKE the J.J. stuff or sequels materials.

He increasingly has no compulsion to lie to cover anyone's ass and has run out of patience for the stupid shit currently surrounding him at all sides.
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there is no possible way for disney to convince me that ep 8 will be good, even if they released a perfectly fine movie nothing will take the disney stink off of it
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lmao Jyn Eatso in the back
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WHERES ANDI. FUCK THIS GUY
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>>91537078
Depends what you mean?

If you're referring to KOTOR's shitty artstyle, then most people (except extreme KOTORfags) hate it, yes.

Technology stagnating for a thousand years (and longer) is just shitty.

Thankfully canon has been pushing much older looking designs for any of the ancient stuff they have displayed thus far.

But yeah, we wont be getting an tv series in that era because there's just no demand for it.

Books? Eventually. Comics? Eventually. Games? MAYBE, but definitely not a priority.

Tv and movies? Basically never, which Pablo snarkily alludes to in his tweet.
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>>91537161
>now
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>>91537076
ehhh, I would argue that Anakin is notoriously uncharismatic in the prequels, which is why people hated the romance with him and Padme (since it made no sense) and Hayden got all of the blame for the character since it wasn't really clear if it was the writing or his performance that made the character so uncharismatic.

Obi-Wan maybe, but that might just be because I don't think it's possible for Ewan McGregor not to be charismatic.
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>>91537161
>now
some of us never liked them, its leftover nostalgiafaggotry from /v/ crossposters
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>>91537161
Any sane person should hate TOR.

KOTOR is a mixed bag, but anybody well-versed in Star Wars should be able to acknowledge the games have problems even fitting into Star Wars.
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>>91537161
I don't hate it. I have no feelings one way or the other about it. But that's still a pretty based tweet by Pablo.
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>>91537208
Star Wars has a problem fitting into Star Wars
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>>91537161

TOR was called the TORTANIC since launch for a reason, KOTOR 2 was a buggy mess unless you use the restored content mod even if a lot of it is really cool, and KOTOR 1 is great for a couple of playthroughs but it's replay value kind of drops off in the way that linear story based RPG's tend to.

The KOTOR COMICS are really cool though. Zayne Carrick is fucking amazing.
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>>91537201
>stop liking what I don't like
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>>91537186
I mean I didn't really like the art style but the game was interesting and the story was fun
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>>91537222
this is what prequel haters ACTUALLY BELIEVE
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THE PHANTOM PAIN
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>>91537208
>>91537228
But I like it and disagree and want a Netflix series
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>>91535083
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>>91537228
>a meme was a meme for a reason

FUCK RIGHT OFF

Its clear everyone of you trolls who spam the same fucking RLM level memes have clearly never played the game for more then an hour.
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>>91537035
>In the prequels they were suddenly celibate monks
They're not celibate

>who thought emotions lead to evil,
No, fear is said too and it turns out to be true.

>especially love
The Jedi don't forbid love. In fact, they teach to love unconditionally.

>Compare that to Mace Windu sitting around and saying "I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi" 10 times without doing anything about it until Anakin is like "Sheev is a Sith Lord" and Mace keeps walking at the same pace as if there's no urgency at all.
Have you even seen the films? I have no idea how you even came to this frame of mind
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>>91537222

Mainly because of shit like KOTOR. As a setting the prequels show the passage of time as hyperspace rings give out to hyperdrives and assault fighters like Arc 170's become more streamlined into X-Wings. The Venator and Acclimator clearly segue into the ISD

Kotor doesn't really work on that same scale.
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>>91534823
How many younglings perished?
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5 > 8 > 4 > R1 > 3 > 6 > 7 > 2 > 1
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>>91536741
It's true tho
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>>91537251
That's fine.

Just don't expect that to ever happen.
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>>91537259

Of course I didn't. I downloaded the free trial which was a chunky as shit file, the aesthetics were awful, and unless you play one of the three lines people shill for the story is shit. I played it six months after launch and the whole thing was still full of textures that refused to load, rigs that would break, and assets clipping through in ways that should've been obvious to fix.
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>>91537281
>implying
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>>91537251

Then you have shit taste and nobody should indulge you.
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>>91537259
I bought the fucking TOR strategy guide like a fool

I still think TOR is shit and regret every second I wasted.

You're free to like it, I cant stop you, but I am glad that shit got wiped from canon.
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>>91537281
Other than eight bein gout yet I kind of find this agreeable
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>>91537263
>The Jedi don't forbid love. In fact, they teach to love unconditionally.
exCUSE me? did you not watch Attack of the Clones? The whole storyline about Anakin's romance with Padme was that it was forbidden by the Jedi to love.

do you even watch the movies you defend or do you just make stuff up to defend them in hope that the person you're arguing with doesn't know anything
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What hilariously incorrect theory do you think MatPat is going to pull out of his ass for The Last Jedi?
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>>91537128
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>>91537259
>RLM level memes
>implying the RLM hate isn't a meme itself
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>>91537359
>kylo ren dies in TLJ
>gets clone body at the very end of the movies in a secret after credits scene
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>>91537359
That RLM don't have shit taste
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>>91537326
And suddenly, I'm reminded of an acquaintance who keeps trying to tie everything in canon to TOR. Even going as far as to cite TOR as an official reference to why things are
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>>91537359
I'll bet money on an abysmally under-researched "Grey Jedi" theory based on Luke's quote
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>>91537281
6 > 4 > 5 > R1 > 3 > 1 > 2

Unironically.

You're right. I have shit taste.
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>>91537395
Yeah but pretty soon, we'll have a 100k upvotes thread on reddit of a way OVER-researched Grey Jedi theory done ironically but half the users buy full into.
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>>91537359
>Is Benicio Del Toro an evil clone of Luke??????
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>>91537326
There were parts of it that were good like the imperial agent, smuggler, and warrior stories. Maybe parts/elements of it could be salvageable and reformatted into something different maybe a comic in a new era.
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>>91537421
Oh yeah, for sure.

And everybody but /swco/ will ignore that Pablo has already shut down Grey Jedi
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>>91537424
>Benicio Del Toro
>clone of sifo dyas
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>>91537359
Fuck, why did you have to remind be about that awful Rogue One Knights of Ren video
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>>91537473
Sauce?
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>>91537359
That Luke is a Sith Lord and the reason why Kylo Ren betrayed him is because he wants to finish what Anakin started by destroying the Sith.
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>>91537348
>exCUSE me? did you not watch Attack of the Clones?

Did you?

>The whole storyline about Anakin's romance with Padme was that it was forbidden by the Jedi to love.
To love one person more that everyone else when you're a Jedi.

Jedi don't forbid love, they forbid attachment to one particular person where your love for them compromises your ability to be a Jedi. Like how Anakin wants the LAAT to go land and see if Padme survived, but Obi-Wan has to remind him that they have a mission and if they turn around Dooku will escape.

>do you even watch the movies you defend or do you just make stuff up to defend them in hope that the person you're arguing with doesn't know anything
Do you even watch the movies you shit on or do you just make stuff up to shit on them in hope that the person you're arguing with doesn't know anything
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>>91537359
Snoke is actually the fire that burned down the temple, his dark side power is the ability to become a flame like the Human Torch.

>When there's Snoke, there's fire!
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>>91537485
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4QOpYMsFXQ
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>>91537516
>Jedi don't forbid love, they forbid attachment to one particular person where your love for them compromises your ability to be a Jedi.

this
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>shot of andi bending over from behind

What a great day.
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>>91537348
>"The Jedi are trained to let go. They're trained from birth," he continues, "They're not supposed to form attachments. They can love people- in fact, they should love everybody. They should love their enemies; they should love the Sith. But they can't form attachments. So what all these movies are about is: greed. Greed is a source of pain and suffering for everybody. And the ultimate state of greed is the desire to cheat death."
>--George Lucas, The Making Of Revenge Of The Sith; page 213.
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DAB YODA
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>>91537557
I want to be held by andi's muscular arms while I look up into breasts and face
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>>91537541
>15:00
Thanks for the link, but nope.
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>>91537541
>"Haha, we did it, you guys! After suffering through three horrendous prequels, Star Wars is great again!"

He could not have picked a more obnoxious way to start the video.
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YUB NUB
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>>91537573
tl;dw

>everyone in Rogue One turns into Knights of Ren because one of the KoR has a staff and so does Chirrut
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>>91537541
>15 minutes
>AH HA WE DID IT YALL
>it's fucking matt pat

WEW
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>yfw ESB walker scene in the second movie
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Who is this edgy motion capture kid fuck his shit
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This Movie will suck
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>>91537642
me on the right
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>>91537628
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so are we just going to start pretending AoTC didnt suck because TFA sucks?
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>More based Warwick
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That fucking guy's obnoxious laugh. God he needs to get the shit beat out of him.
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>>91537433
>tfw no handsome young boys to take home
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>>91537683

tell that to kanjiclub
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>>91537683
What I want to know is why there is suddenly an influx of people who think The Phantom Menace is the best prequel.
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>>91537281
5 = R1 > 4 = 3 > 6 > 8 > 7 > 1 > 2
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>>91537683
>so are we just going to start pretending AoTC didnt suck because TFA sucks?

No, because AoTC never sucked.
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>>91537653
>kreiafag
>namefag
>shit opinion
so much b8 in one post
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>>91537683
I liked AOTC since it came out in 2002 because I don't let extraneous pop culture dictate my tastes so I can fit in.
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>>91537683
TFA doesn't suck. AotC definitely does aside from the gladiator arena battle.
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>>91537359
Kylo Ren is Revan reincarnated.
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>>91537710
Best cosplay. Even if she's a butterface you can just tell her to keep the hat and mask on.

In fact I'd tell her the same if she was a qt.
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>>91537359
Grey Jedi and Evil Luke will definitely shoot through the roof
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>>91537738
AOTC has some of the worst dialogue I've ever heard in my 20+ years of watching movies.
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favorite new ship even though i cant see shit.

although it could just be an A-wing
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>DIS IS A REBELLION, INNIT? OI FOOKIN' REBEL YA ROIGHT CUNT

Why did people think this was a better first trailer than TLJ's first trailer?
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>>91537710
She's scoping out some prey right now
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>>91537770
Pretty sure it's just a super blurry X-Wing
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>>91537770
That's an a-wing
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>>91537770
Definitely an A-Wing
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>>91537717
It is rather sudden but I do understand it. There's a very compelling aesthetic, both in terms of design and the particular method of CGI and practical composition. The pre-war setting is also understandably intriguing.

It may also be reactionary. Not just to the inanity of RLM prequel hate, but to the ridiculous Machete Order method of viewing the movies which inexplicably excludes TPM entirely from watching.

>>91537770
it's an updated a-wing

>>91537767
then you never watched the original trilogy :^)
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>>91537750
>TFA doesn't suck

Nice bait.
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>>91537784
It was very stylish. The cool Imperial alarms blazing set a great tone.
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>>91537750
Coruscant was nice, as was Kamino. The ingredients felt right, the proportions felt off. It was still a serviceable enough meal but I wouldn't leave more than a pity tip.
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>>91537784
Everyone mocked that shit line.
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>>91537161
TOR was always hated, and as much people loved KOTOR it is undeniable that it doesn't really fit in SW universe, the games being set so far away in the timeline was what kept most of the fanbase okay with what was in the game
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>>91537828
>anything I don't like is bait
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>>91537728
id really like to be mad, but its really a funny concept
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>>91537683
TFA was different.

AoTC in the meta, works. Zoom out and read a synopsis and I guess a wiki and the lore inside AoTC is coherent, thematically fits the universe and is a good primer for the Clone Wars. Zoom in and it's just fucking shit, with a terrible script, bad emoting and its just all around a bad movie.

TFA, is the complete opposite. In the Meta, its badly written, doesn't fit in terms of what RotJ left and is inconsistent in terms of previous SW themes and is a bad way to start the ST trilogy. Zoom in and its a decently written movie, with good effects, jokes, actors, timing, etc. It's not a bad movie.

So you really have to look at these movies both as Star Wars movies, and as just movies in general. They each come up differently.
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>>91537800
>There's a very compelling aesthetic, both in terms of design and the particular method of CGI and practical composition.

I'm the one you are responding to and I admit that even though TPM is my least favorite Star Wars movie, I also consider its aesthetic to be the comfiest hands down. That could just be dewy-eyed nostalgia though because I was 10 when it came out.
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>>91537828
TFA doesn't suck, it does not mean it is a masterpiece either
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>>91537717

To me Phantom Menace is a story that has a strong concept but it has fundamental flaws you can't fix without redoing it from scratch. The last minute decision to de age anakin by about five years but keep the script and direction probably had some issues going in, and Jar Jar is probably fine outside of being badly directed and having a design that needed another pass through.

It has good sequences. Duel of Fates was cool, the space battle was cool, pod racing was cool. But the stuff that isn't a set piece suffered from design and casting issues.
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I think Luke's Jedi were on the Temple of Eedit on Devaron. Notice how the Phasma shot is a different scene (blue lights), then look at the statues to the left of the temple, the grasslands surrounding it, then watch this video. Also keep in mind Luke went to this temple in a Journey to TFA book and said that he would visit again someday (even though the Imperials took everything from the temple). Wouldn't surprise me if while making TCW Lucas envisioned the Temple of Eedit as Luke's temple and wrote that into his version of the ST.
https://youtu.be/BkBS3J99IwY
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>>91535451
>Mary Sue

Please learn what certain phrases mean before using them in a sentence
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>>91537870

I heard it described as TFA being a 7/10 movie in the vacuum, but it's like 3/10 as a star wars sequel.
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>>91537828
i remember when AoTC received the same hate, but i like TFA.

do i like a shitty AoTc grade movie?
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>>91537848
The chase scenes and investigation parts on Coruscant are honestly boring as shit. The Jango and Obi-Wan fights are cool. The part where Anakin speeds across the desert and then murders the sand people is actually one of my favorite scenes in the entire franchise. The end battle is cool. The Dooku duel sucks. Certainly the weakest Star Wars film overall as far as I'm concerned.
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>>91537895
Fixing the Falcon and the Mind Trick are enough to qualify her for Sue status. Not to mention Han himself being impressed with her after only having known her 20 minutes.
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>>91537828
What does "bait" even mean at this point if "something wasn't horrible" is considered bait?
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>>91537870
jesus fucking christ some one actually made sense
>>
What would your ideal ST be about, /swco/?
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>>91537890
Also notice the middle spire.
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>>91537890
Oh wow while reading that book I completely forgot that location was in TCW.
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>>91537194
>(since it made no sense)
Worst meme.
The reason it makes no sense to people is because society is sick.
In a better world, saying
>you're exactly the way I remember you in my dreams
Wouldn't be creepy, it would tell someone how much you care.
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>this redhead with the nose piercing
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>>91537918
I mean it's not like she's imbued with the fucking force or someth....oh wait.
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>>91537851
I liked Kotor 2's concept of wounds in the force and we really didn't know if Kreia's plan to kill the force could even work. Maybe she was just crazy in the end. How does Kotor not fit in starwars honest question? I'm fine with scrapping Swtor, fucking ruined Revan. Maybe Kotor could be pushed closer to the prequel timeline maybe a hundred years before Bane to avoid technological plateauing
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>>91537961

Luke took two movies for Mind Trick and it took Ezra almost a whole season and they're both supposed to be prodigies.

Even Mark came onstage TODAY and said he thought it was bullshit when he read the script.
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>>91537800
>which inexplicably excludes TPM entirely
I'm not a fan of the machete order, but don't act like it's unexplained. If anything, the whole watching order is way too overthought.
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>No Daisy Ridley ass training webms posted

You guys are slipping
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>>91537890
Doesn't look like statues to me
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>>91537959
she looks like an MtF
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>>91537923
its a blurry mess at this point, maybe we could consider him "slightly" triggered.
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>>91537940
Jedi Order is restored and we see a group of Jedi have adventures in space. The big evil is some pirate crimelord. Luke, Leia and Han all live happily ever after.
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>>91537870
I never thought someone would actually fucking get it.
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>>91538001
These fags like Jyn more
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>>91537940
The Thrawn Trilogy. Literally should have just made those into movies back in the 90's. Then the movies now could have been the NJO. They fucked up eternally.
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I a huge fucking faggot going through TLJ reaction videos just to see people's faces when "it's time for the Jedi to end"
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>>91537985

The thing about KOTOR 2 specifically is that it's less a thing within star wars and more an essay ON Star Wars. If you accept it as is the jedi kind of just get wiped out every so often and it destroys the significance of the OT and PT. You also have to assume that the jedi in the span of a generation went from ancient and crazy outfits to dressing exactly as they do in the prequels and then didn't change for centuries.
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>>91537870
This is spot on.
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>>91537870
I kind of agree with you.
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>>91537917
>The chase scenes and investigation parts on Coruscant are honestly boring as shit.
How can you be this wrong?

>If you'll excuse me!
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>>91538005
You seem to be under the impression that this changes things.
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>>91538049
kek
I should do that too
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>>91534702
that's some good bacta
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>>91538049
I'll wait for someone to make a compilation video
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>>91537870
Holy shit this is an A+ post.
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>>91538001
She's posting training videos again?
I thought she stopped with the social media
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>>91537942
>Temple_of_Eedit.
>live action flash back of savage opress
please
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>>91538064
It sucks anon. It's boring and goes on forever. I don't rewatch AotC very often partly because of that bland chase.
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>big tiddy wookie

i didnt know i wanted this
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>>91535968
According to Lucas he slipped in the tub.
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>>91538086
Oh wow, the scar is not even in the right place
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>>91537870
i've tried to explain this before but I didnt come close to how you explain it

good post anon
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>>91538049
I absolutely despite "FUCKING KIDS THESE DAYS" attitude, but the one thing I outright hate about current internet trends is fucking reaction videos.

I understand Let's Plays, even though I don't like them.
I understand the annoying text on top and bottom trend, even though it's annoying.
I understand why a lot of this youtube meta shit like h3h3 is popular, even though I don't get it myself.

But why the fuck do so many people like watching other people overreact to new movie trailers?
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>>91538111
Yikes, I completely disagree.
I think the most boring opening (I love the rest of the film though) is the ESB walker scene.
I think that goes on forever and for no reason because that AT-AT's are a stupidly slow and illogical vehicle, even for SW.
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>>91537870
I've been trying to explain this to people since I saw the film a second time and no one listens. Thank you for being sane, anon.
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>>91537870
>Decently written movie
>the ENTIRE PLOT of the movie gets put on hold 1/3 of the way in, so that they can introduce and then destroy the nu-Death Star, before resuming the plot less than 5 minutes from the movies' close
>decently written movie
I disagree
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>>91538064
I'm with the anon on this one. I'm not sure I'd call the chase scene boring, but it lasts way too long. Just like the podracing and the droid factory.
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>>91538152
*the AT-ATs
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>>91537870
Best post in a while
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>Heroines of Star Wars panel
>*closes tab*


Let me know when that agenda pushing cancer is over so I can tune back in.
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>>91538176
Disagree on everything but the droid factory.
Slowest scene in SW is the AT AT scene.
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>>91537940

If you're gonna have troopers, have them all be imperial cultists. Even if none of them are strong in the force and have lightsabers, I feel just giving them power swords and forcing a jedi character to fight outnumbered would be cool from a cinematic perspective. So every trooper would have a carbine and a sword. It would also underline how good a full jedi is meant to be. The villain could just be some underling of Palpatine's who survived and escaped and was planning his revenge through the force instead of raw military might and is using dark rituals instead of a super weapon. Maybe he uses a giant kyber crystal and human sacrifices for a similar effect. In space he uses smaller cruisers and a bunch of starfighters to swarm and have something equivalent to battle meditation to bolster them.

The new republic has no idea how to counter this threat and like half of Luke's new jedi turn to the dark side and become clone wars style generals. We follow one younger apprentice and a few republic characters trying to destroy the big crystal, but they can't just do a trench run and the fighters just hold off enemy air support while ground troopers do their thing.

That's a basic elevator pitch for a movie that's clearly different but invokes similar ideas to previous films.
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>>91538152
Jesus Christ. The Battle of Hoth is my favorite part in all of Star Wars and is pure cinematic greatness. What the fuck anon?
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So is Finn going to spend the rest of the series in a coma?
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>>91538100
Master and a Padawan girl where I've seen that before? Ummmmmmm
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>>91538149
The Fine Bros. take it to such a horrible and hilarious extreme. They base their entire livelihood on showing various people shit that other people made, and they have the audacity to claim they own a monopoly on that type of video and have actively threatened anyone doing similar videos. Reaction videos are the least creative videos you can make on YouTube and they somehow feel they have an ownership on it.
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>>91538207

If you wanted to REALLY push the pottery angle the republic fleet could have big destroyer type ships, but then the next generation TIE interceptor type ships would come out of hyperspace and drop proton torpedos into the ship bridges and exhaust ports to cripple the fleet before flying off.
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>>91538196
come on anon dont be mopey
at least we're going to see some more ashoka
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>>91537870
I appreciate this analysis, and I'd agree that AOTC is better for lore, considering it sets up TCW, aka the best era of Star Wars. But ultimately, you also have to understand that different people have different priorities. Especially casuals -- they're going to care way more about a good fun movie than one that perfect encapsulates SW lore.

Also personally, I don't mind the way TFA fits in, but I get why others think that way.
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>>91538229
I watched the four SW movies that were out all the time as a kid.
AT AT scene is boring badly paced nonsense.
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Tomorrow is the big day for me in Celebration, we're going to have Rebels panel, games panel and comics panel
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>>91538152
>coruscant
I can appreciate prequel hate to an extent, but those who imply they're fully bad wholesale is an idiot, because the planet design is fucking GOAT.
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Fave Diloni!!
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>>91538196
Yeah you want to see some swinging dicks, amirite? Some big hairy manly men?
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>>91537870
Man I've been saying this since it came out but you worded it perfectly.
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Wheres Andi!??!!!!!
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>>91538205
Podracing definitely wasn't a slow scene -- the pacing itself was fine. It's a fucking awesome set piece, and really well done for a race sequence. I just think it's an unnecessary distraction in the film.
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STRONK FEMAL DUN NEED NO MANG
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>>91538262
>I watched the four SW movies that were out all the time as a kid.
>four
>as a kid
Damn I'm old :/
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>>91537870
Hope you don't mind anon but I made a screencap for posterity. It was too good to let go.
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>>91537717
I acknowledge TPM is shit but I can't help but feel like a kid again when I watch it. I just have too many fond memories to hate it
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>>91538317
you like penis, i get it.
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>>91538168
this

>>91538312
Eh, I don't agree. It serves both a purpose in the plot and is exciting.
Lucas could have written a quicker way to get the parts, but then we wouldn't get the podrace excitement.
I think people forget the point of movies sometimes.
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>>91538293
>meanwhile on stage just Dave Filoni and some Tumblr haired landwhale
Nice try you faggot SJW.
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>>91538348
Same for me. I also think it gets more hate than it deserves. In my opinion, AOTC is far more flawed, despite the better world building.
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>>91538264
Me too bro and i have to work
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>>91538348
I feel you, anon. TPM is the only Star Wars movie I consider to be a legitimately bad movie but I'll be damned if it doesn't give me the nostalgic feels.
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>Filoni is hosting a women in star wars panel

there's a layer of irony here
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>>91538337
You're in your late 30s and only just realizing that?
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>>91538149
I kinda get it. Social lives are moving ever more into the realm of social media and with access to all the people the web grants you, kids especially are feeling less inclined to spend time with the people they find themselves with in terms of family and location, and more to seek out people whose "company" they enjoy online. It's essentially "virtual social life".

I find reaction videos less odd than lets plays to be honest. Just play the fucking game, Jesus I'd find sitting watching someone else play a game tedious as hell.
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I wonder if TLJs opening scene will match up with the end of its crawl or if it'll be like TFA and not match up
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>>91538348
>I acknowledge TPM is shit
But TPM isn't shit.
It's on par with any other Lucas film.
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Rose is cute.

Also, Rose is a very un-Star Wars name.
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Did Tia lose some weight?
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>>91538424
>STAR WARS EPISODE VIII
>THE LAST JEDI
>It has been ten minutes since the end of The Force Awakens....
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>>91538232
Based on how his actor was talking about today, I'd say that's not the case.
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FILONI JUST TEASED ABOUT KILLING SABINE

REPEAT, FILONI JUST TEASED KILLING SABINE

#SUICIDEWATCH

WHO WILL STOP THIS MADMAN?
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>>91538367
>exciting
Oh no doubt about that. It's maybe the most fun sequence in the entire saga. And without it, we wouldn't have gotten the GOAT N64 game.

>I think people forget the point of movies sometimes.
Oddly enough, that's the same way I feel about TFA hate lol. But I think the "point" of movies has several tiers. Maybe entertaining comes first, but I storytelling is up there. And I just think the story would've been better served using that 15 minutes elsewhere.

I'd say droid factory and Naboo picnic are worse pacing errors, though I know I'll get hate for the latter. ROTS, on the other hand, is pretty solidly paced throughout, even if I think the final fight goes on a bit long.
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>>91538368
Hey it's cool, man. You're into dudes. Im sure there will be plenty Kylo Ren in the movie for you to drool over. Maybe he'll even take off his shirt!
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>>91538424
I'm willing to bet that the opening shot we see in the teaser with the "stars" actually being the lighting on a stone is the opening shot of the movie after the crawl.
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>>91538456
Is this another Chinese actor that can barely speak English shoehorned in simply because China owns Hollywood?
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>Ahsoka lives
Ashley please
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>>91538456
I mean we start off with characters named Luke and Ben so it's not completely odd for someone to have a real name. But she is cute.
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>>91538478
Unworthy to be of the Mando'ade
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>>91538402
>late 30s
...ow

I haven't even turned 30 yet
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>>91538481
>and Naboo picnic
Enriches ROTS so i'd never get rid of that.
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>>91538478
Who will be Mandalore now?
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>>91538484
>Kylo Ren
>attractive
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>>91538513
There were four Star Wars movies when you were a kid.
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>>91538400
Dave and girl characters is like Sheev and democracy, he only pretends to love it.
>I love waifus
>Until I want to murder them
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>>91538470
>LUKE SKYWALER, the missing Jedi, is parched. He's been waiting two years to speak
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>>91538497
The more she spouts this, the more he regrets not making her death scene more explicitly clear. Being vague was a stylistic but foolish choice.
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>>91538504
>>91538525
Sabine was never trying to rule Mandalore. She said in the episode she just wants to help find someone else to rule.
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>>91538494
If you watched the panel shes American and speaks English.
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Write the opening crawl, /co/
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>>91538494
She's Vietnamese
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>>91538481
But TFA isn't fun or exciting...
Like, not even compared to JJ's other movies. It's bad on every concievable level.
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>>91538561
THE
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>>91538541
By that logic, there were 5. Maybe 6, considering ROTS came out a few months before my 18th.

I still consider my childhood as a Star Wars fan to just be the OT boxset we had. But yes, I was mostly just making a joke.
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>>91538561
A GALAXY DIVIDED
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>>91538586
FORCE
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>>91538430

With some very minor edits it's an excellent film. I've said it before, the biggest problem with the prequels as films is poor editing (directors shouldn't be in the editing booth until the end).

With the original plates and audio tracks, Lucasfilm could take these rough gems and polish them with relatively few changes.
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>>91538560
Ok, good. It's becoming a rather noticeable and unpleasant trend. Kong Skull Island is the most recent and obvious example. At least the two guys in Rogue One were actually good.
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Fucking encouraging mandofags
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>>91538585
I had fun and was excited.

So I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
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You anit-Mando fags will be the first to perish when we rise
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When can Filoni finally direct a film?
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>>91538610
AWAKENED
>>
Why is the soundtrack of Disney's SW movies so lackluster? I thought that SW was supposed to be one of those series where you could always say "say what you want, but the music was amazing."
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>>91538611
Lucas is an excellent editor though, an he's noted for it.
Read this. I trust you know who John Milius is.

The cross cutting of Padme's death and Vader's birth in ROTS was his idea.
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>>91538614
They were fine but Baz shouldn't have been able to pull off what Chirrut did.
>>91538645
Too cheap for Williams in rogue one
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>>91538645
The music in TFA and Rogue One is amazing. What the fuck are you on about?
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>>91538645
For TFA it's because Williams didn't get to see any footage (maybe not even a script?) before writing it. It's still pretty good though, even if not GOAT. I don't know that he'll ever reach PT levels again.

RO, idk.
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Who needs strong female characters when you can have touchy-feely fucksluts?
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>>91538641
REVAN
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>>91538656
>>91538611
>was his idea
Lucas' idea that is.
Not Milius. In case that wasn't clear.
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>>91538666
I like the music in TFA but cmon the music in Rogue One was literally slapped together in 2 weeks and you can hear it.
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>>91538645
Rogue One has an amazing soundtrack though

even TFA is alright. nothing special, but alright.
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>>91538665
>Too cheap for Williams in rogue one
I think it's more that they wanted it to be something different. The Anthology films don't need to be married to the same formula as the Saga films. I know Didney is pretty cheap at times, but I can't imagine that they'd skimp on Williams if they really wanted him.
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>>91538672
She was in the Slideshow you fuck
Dave Filoni fucking weeb confirmed
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>>91538666
pffft
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>>91538669
>For TFA it's because Williams didn't get to see any footage (maybe not even a script?) before writing it.
What the fuck, is this true?
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>>91538611

>With some very minor edits it's an excellent film

If by minor edits you mean "remove the Gungans entirely" and "make Qui-Gon-Jinn and Maul actual characters in the story" and "totally remove the Trade Federation and make the the Separatists from the beginning then sure, I guess.
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>>91538722
>"make Qui-Gon-Jinn and Maul actual characters in the story"
They were though.
I hate this meme.
I think /tv/ is here or something, I'm out.
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>>91538645
quiet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qemb3iBlp1o
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>>91538712

He has specifically mentioned Macross and Akira as major influences on his work, his weeb status has been out in the open from the get-go.
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>>91538665
Nope, they didn't use Williams because he's been busy writing the music for TLJ and Episode 9. He wanted more time for them than he got for TFA. So they used his old student Michael Giacchino for Rogue One, who is a great composer in his own right.
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>>91538760
fucking based
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>>91538746

>Maul
>character

Even the biggest PT defender can't pretend this is true.
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>>91538722
>remove everything that was in the movie to make it a good movie
holy shit just when you think prequel hate can't get any more retarded, this guy shows up with his hot opinions and sets a new low
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>>91538714
You know, I thought it was. But I can't find a sauce.

So for now, let's just say I remember reading that two years ago but I could be retarded.
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>>91538722
Maul doesn't really need depth in TPM.
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>>91534998

I could get a random college dropout to write better books. He is one of the worst people to ever put words to a page.
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>>91538773
Rogue ones score still doesn't live up to even force awakens.
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>>91538776
But it is.
Palps is the brains and Maul is his weapon.
We even see Maul and Qui-Gon contrasted when Maul paces while Qui-Gon meditates.

IF Maul was the only villain of TPM you might have a point, but as a contrast to both the other villain, and one of our heroes, he's great.

>>91538820
bingo
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>Rey, thank you for following my wishes. It looks like we will truly be a Walt Disney Picture: Star Wars Episode 8: The Last Jedi
really, Disney?
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>>91538760
Who the fuck thought it would be a good idea to put Harrison up there?
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>>91538746
>Maul
>has 3 or 4 lines in the entire movie, and they aren't even spoken by the guy in the costume
>"He's a real character!"
No. Just no. You're really embarrassing yourself here.
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>>91538760
Harrison gives no shits. He got his paycheck and he got out of there.
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>>91538760
There's just something admirable about Ford not giving a fuck.
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>>91538722

Nah, just some slight tweaks, removal of needless exposition, some trimming down of Lloyd's dialog, and a couple Jar-Jar scenes trimmed. It doesn't require much.
>>
So can someone help me figure out when Thrawn takes place chapter by chapter? Apparently it begins 2 years before Tarkin since in Chapter 12 (which is 3 years after the book starts) they mention that Tarkin has been a Grand Moff for only a year. But everyone is saying it ends right before Season 3 and takes place over 6-7 years? I've also hears people state that it begins 2 years after ROTS. This has been the most confusing book to chart out timeline wise. Normally I can just control-f the terms 'year' or 'month' to figure out when a book is set but Thrawn is vague as fuck.
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>>91538847
This
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>>91538820
>>91538847
He might not need depth, but that doesn't make him a good character. He's basically a plot device.

It's a plot device that serves the story well, mind you, but don't pretend like it's anything else.
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>>91538760
>Doesn't give a shit about the role
>Still puts a good performance
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>>91538795
>>91538714
I read that he was allowed to see the footage/script only piece meal. Instead of being given the whole thing at once to get a narrative feel for scoring, he was only given a scene to score because JJ was paranoid or something.
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>>91538894
Ah, maybe that was it. I knew I remembered something like that. I'm still looking but I can't find a good source. So for right now I'm not gonna treat it as gospel because I don't wanna be one of those shitty internet rumor people.
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>>91538712
Are you implying she isn't a touchy-feely fuckslut?
>>
Tiya's kind of cute
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>>91538760
Disney just will not learn their lesson about putting Ford out there to promote shit. Kathleen Kennedy is such a retard that doesn't understand that Harrison Ford does not care about Star Wars and is not on their team, and I think George loves every fucking minute of it.
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>>91538874
I'm not sure exactly but the first chapter takes place after Tarkin I believe (14bby), and the last chapter before the epilogue takes place right before Rebels S3 (2bby). The Epilogue however is anybody's guess, it could have been right after the last chapter or it could be set post-ROTJ or during the Sequel Era.
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>>91538891
His performance in TFA was serviceable, but it was pretty phoned in.
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>>91538789

>>remove everything that was in the movie to make it a good movie

It's almost like the whole movie was shit.

>>91538820

He doesn't need depth, but I need at least some semblance of personality or importance. Tarkin was not some sort of amazing 3-dimensional portrait of humanity in ANH, but there was enough there to give him characterization and the actor sold the rest.

>>91538894

>because JJ was paranoid or something.

Weren't they still doing major edits to the film until the last days before it went out the door? The production of TFA sounded like a nightmare.
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>>91538820
Yes he fucking does you absolute cocksucker.
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>look Rey, here's a radical idea, maybe the Jedi shouldn't be the only light side users in the Galaxy, maybe we should start an another order, call it Reydi or whatever, this time with no celibacy, big temples and politics, I mean, look at the Sith, they changed their name and introduced more guys into their ranks and it did them wonders
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>>91538885
I agree, I had to clarify that I think that he serves the story very well and is enjoyable to see on screen.

I mean, he looks like the fucking devil.
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>>91538714
>What the fuck, is this true?

Yes. TFA's production was rushed so that they forced Williams to score the movie AS it was being filmed. Thus leading to not having a finished cut to score to, and not being able to use the LSO and forced to use a local (and smaller) LA orchestra.
>>
What was the point of the battle of Endor if they could have just warped in underneath the Death Star's shields?
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>>91538941
>and I think George loves every fucking minute of it
I'm pretty sure Disney knows; they just think it's adorable and agree with George.
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>>91538874

It begins somewhere in the same timeframe as Tarkin, probably a little after. They have TIE's but also use Venators. He graduates a few months later. It jumps around chapter by chapter though.

It does end right before Season 3 since we see Pryce gain her governership and explain why she wasn't in the first couple of seasons of Rebels. They allude to things the rebels have been doing. Thrawn gets his promotion at the end and his intro in rebels say that that was incredibly recent so you can assume it's concurrent with Season 2.
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>>91538928
She strongly conforms to a touchy feely fuckslut
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>>91538820
Holy shit dude shut the fuck up. You're making those of us who like the prequels look like EUfags.
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>>91538760
Harrison Ford probably gives the least fucks about Star Wars out of everyone who has ever been in the movies.
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Is Ewan going to be in a panel?
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>>91538948
>He doesn't need depth, but I need at least some semblance of personality or importance. Tarkin was not some sort of amazing 3-dimensional portrait of humanity in ANH, but there was enough there to give him characterization and the actor sold the rest.
see
>>91538847
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>>91538983
Because they were already there and they didn't know the shields were still up.
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>>91539004
That arguement is absolutely terrible and you are a complete retard for trying to push it.
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>>91538942
So I'm assuming it skips a bunch of years at some point? Other than Chapter 12 which is set 3 years after the start of the book can you tell me when the next time skip (I assume there's only one or two more) happens?
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>this feminist wankfest panel
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>>91538864
My favorite thing related to his no-fucks attitude about Star Wars is when he was promoting TFA on the Jimmy Fallon show and he was asked "did you get emotional getting back into the role after all these years?" and his answer was "no, I got paid."
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>>91539027
>That arguement is absolutely terrible
Then refute it.
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>>91539035
even in real life, he is the perfect han solo
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>>91539029
What's the source of these?
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this fuckin stronk women panel man, jesus christ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNTjNkD7ifU
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>>91537958
>"you're exactly the way I remember you in my dreams" Wouldn't be creepy, it would tell someone how much you care.

do you by any chance post on /r9k/ as well? because most normal girls would find that incredibly creepy and the fact that you think that it isn't creepy is depressing
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>>91538168
That's kinda what I mean. In TFA, the star-killer base is not really treated as the threat it is in universe. Think about Rogue One and more recently Thrawn, the Death Star is painted as this ultimate fist about to crush everything, its destruction and meaning is amplified. Then look at Star-killer, its actually more threatening and powerful then the death star, but when that's pointed out the character reaction is '*sigh* not again' as opposed to outright terror.

But Star-killer base is decently shot, has some interesting moments, and is entertaining throughout its existence and works as a threat to the characters in the immediate sense. In meta, it doesn't work. In the movie, it does.
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>>91539027
He remained mysterious, like a terminator sent to capture Padme. Did Sideous know Anakin was on Tatioone?
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>>91539053
Ok.

Lucas brought him back. You don't do that if you're content with what you did with the characters. The end.
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>>91537958
>you're exactly the way I remember you in my dreams
>Wouldn't be creepy, it would tell someone how much you care.

If I were a girl and some dude I hadn't seen in 10 years said that to me I would be creeped the fuck out.
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>>91538864
Because he's not a suckup shill trying to pretend like he loves it just to get more fans or whatever. It makes him real and honest. Also, he probably partly does it as a pre-emptive intimidation tactic to keep more timid fans away so he doesn't always have to bother with spergs asking him for autographs and more questions he couldn't possibly have an answer to.
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>>91537870
Ever since TFA came out, I always said that the Prequel Trilogy were good movies done badly, and The Force Awakens was a bad movie done well. I guess it's up to the viewer as to which of those is better or worse.
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>>91539068
Some socks I think
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>>91539106
>because most normal girls would find that incredibly creepy
Exactly.
Star Wars is a "maiden let down your hair" tier fantasy. ESPECIALLY the PT, which is basically a stage play.
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>>91539131
Nah. He knew when Anakin and Qui-Gon showed up but not before.
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>>91538820
bullshit, look how deep he is here
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>>91539106
>because most normal girls would find that incredibly creepy
Stop dating boring chicks.
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>>91538864

I think it's the difference in life and approach he has. Ford wasn't a professional actor, he'd done a couple of parts but he had a life as a regular person for many years and worked his way through many smaller parts, then moved through bigger parts.

Daisy Ridley is basically a grown up kid who landed this as a big break and is super attached to the role. She gets legit offended when Rey is called a Mary Sue.

John Boyega by contrast doesn't really seem to give a fuck. I mean it's a good job but he's got other big parts lined up. Adam is the same way since he's in a lot of other big and small ticket movies. They didn't need to reorient their lives around Star Wars.
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>>91539133
10/10. Dismantled his entire autistic argument with one sentence.
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>>91539165
What happened to his legs?
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>>91539135
You're on 4chan in a general, which are the most cancerous parts. Expect creep virgins like the guy you replied to, to ingest this place.
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>>91539133
wat
Lucas brought him back because he regretted killing him off.
Not that he felt he fucked up on the character himself.
Look it up.

Anything else?
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Daisy is so expressive
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>>91539004

>he's the weapon!

And? He still needs personality, and two seconds right before he dies is not enough to justify how little he mattered in the rest of the movie. He doesn't do anything that matters until his final fight scene.

You can make a mindless, sociopathic monk into an interesting character. Or a character at all. Play into his training, make him like Clive Owen in The Bourne Identity.

>other villains

WHAT other villains? Palpatine is sequel bait, Nute Gunray is a spineless delegate tied to a worthless organisation and...what's after that, Sebulba?

Maul was the one character you COULD have fleshed out into the villain of that movie, similar to what Dooku was in AOTC. Fuck, for as horribly handled as Grevious was in ROTS he at least was present in the movie and did things.

TPM's most menacing villain is trade law.
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>>91539139

I'd second that assessment.
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>>91539178
see
>>91539187
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HOLY SHIT WE'RE GETTING FILONI DOLLS
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>>91539187
>Lucas brought him back because he regretted killing him off.
And why was that genius? Jesus Christ how dumb are you?
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>>91539173
John Boyega is the opposite of "doesn't give a fuck" because he's a lifelong Star Wars nerd himself. This shit is his dream come true and he's just having fun with it. As far as an acting job, yeah, he's found success elsewhere already, but this is more like play time for him.
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>>91539208
>Palpatine is sequel bait
wat
He is literally the architect of the entire plot AND ascends to chancellor in the movie.
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I like how everyone is shitposting here instead of watching the stream. I don't either.
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>>91539187
Yeah Maul served his purpose and was changed by his failure.
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>>91539187
>Gets BTFO
>Keeps digging the hole
Just stop anon. You got BTFO. Lucas fucked up with Maul, just admit it and move on.
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Poor Dave.
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>>91539240
Because he killed him off too soon?
Are you stupid?
That's not a comment on character, it's a comment on plotting.
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>>91539247
Exactly you moron. He's not the main antagonist for this movie. He's the Big Bad behind the scenes.
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Ahsoka looks so much better than the others
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Ok I think I know the general timeline of Thrawn now I just need someone to tell me when the final arc of the book begins so I know which section of the book is set in 2BBY.
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>>91539275
?
see
>>91539278
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Maul living was fan service nothing more. He can't be the same character from surviving from being cut in half and failing his mission.
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>>91538064
>be Obi-Wan
>driving a speeder at hundreds of miles an hour while thousands of other speeders fly past in every other direction
>catch a 6 inch long piece of metal after glancing at it falling in my direction even though I was busy both trying not to hit any other speeders as well as tracking another speeder and had no idea that said piece of metal was even a lightsaber, let alone that Anakin dropped it

fucking what

Lucas constantly breaks his own rules of what the Jedi are capable of. He gives them lightning fast reflexes but then has them defeated in fights when the plot demands it. He gives them the ability to hold their breath when poison gas floods the room but 10 minutes later has them need gadgets to breathe underwater. He gives them the power of running incredibly fast and dodging rapid fire from droids and then later in the film when it'd be useful to run at that speed Obi-Wan just runs normally and Qui-Gon gets killed cuz of it.

The complete lack of consistency is what people hate, so "the prequels showed the Jedi at their prime" argument that usually comes up to defend this stuff doesn't apply.
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>>91539304
That's the thing about non-human dolls.
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>>91539304
I want it.
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>>91539208
>Palpatine is sequel bait
Dude, Sheev was the real villian for the entire trilogy. Maul was just a tool for his plan, a distraction, a silent assassin.
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What characters had hard lives?
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>>91539206

People gave her a hard time but she was really giving a good show.
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>>91539278
>Because he killed him off too soon?
Yes exactly. Seriously how can you be this retarded? He killed him off before we even got to know who Maul was. He fucked up. That's why he brought him back.
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>>91539302
But he is the main antagonist.
Everything that happens happens because of him, and he has lots of screentime.
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>>91539208
>Palpatine is sequel bait
It's a prequel trilogy explaining how the most powerful being in the universe came to power, the point of a prequel is to explain what happened to get in the situation of the original movie, of course he's there

What would be the point of a prequel trilogy to the OT if Palpatine isn't in it
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Why is the Sabine doll so brown?
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>>91539309
Dude just stop. It's sad seeing you flail around going
>N-n-no
>>
The "Female Heroines" panel is just a lowkey Dave/Rebels panel.

Quite comfy, aside from the occasional "its important because she's a girl!" the host and Tiya keeps saying.

Oh and Daisy Ridley showed up for a minute
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>>91539340
With the complete lack of iron sights and that much barrel shaking, she would have missed the shot anyways.
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>>91539187
>>91539278
You literally just proved his argument irrefutably correct. Everything you just posted plays into his hand and contradicts every dumb as fuck thing you've already said. Just stop you sad sack of shit.
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>>91539340
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>>91539369
>>91539309
Can y'all just both stop at this point?
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Dave is such a fun dude. I want a figure of him too.
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Dave just teased that we're going to find out about the owl tomorrow
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>>91539338
All of them. No one in Star Wars has had a cushy, happy life. If they did, they wouldn't be constantly killing each other or driven by a need for revenge or to rise up against tyranny.
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>>91539373
B-but she's perfect and can do no wrong! M-mary Sue!
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why is the Sabine doll black?
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>>91539340
*widens eyes*
*sticks out lower jaw*
BACK THE FUCK OFF????
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>>91538367
wait, what? what changes could JJ have made during post-production that were so significant that Johnson had to overhaul his script and do a major rewrite? From watching the making-of videos, I can't think of anything that seemed like a last minute change, or anything big story-wise that they didn't mention at one point in the videos during production. Now I'm really curious
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>>91539314
>Lucas constantly breaks his own rules of what the Jedi are capable of. He gives them lightning fast reflexes but then has them defeated in fights when the plot demands it.
Jedi fighting each other negates that advantage.
>He gives them the ability to hold their breath when poison gas floods the room but 10 minutes later has them need gadgets to breathe
under a minute in a room=/=swimming to an underwater city.
>He gives them the power of running incredibly fast and dodging rapid fire from droids and then later in the film when it'd be useful to run at that speed Obi-Wan just runs normally and Qui-Gon gets killed cuz of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3dI-ghYimg

>>91539374
pfft
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>>91539377
Requesting delet this edit
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>>91539247
>>91539334
>>91539345

>He is literally the architect of the entire plot AND ascends to chancellor in the movie.

And Thanos was the architect of the plot in The Avengers, I guess that makes him compelling too.

He didn't DO anything. Lucas for some insane reason decided to keep playing his reveal as a mystery in the first film, so Sideus can't do anything but menace from the sidelines.

Being the villain on the macro level doesn't matter if that macro eats into the movie itself. He's not a real villain that matters in the narrative to the actual characters until ROTS.

Before that he's glorified lore bait. Your argument boils down to "He's compelling because the movie tells me he's important!"
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>>91539304
Ashley looks so much better than the others
FTFY
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>>91539373
>>91539377
>>91539421

iron sights just get in the way of your eyes
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>>91537670
>dat schnozz
Suspicious.
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So what's Ashley doing these days?
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>>91539431
kek
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NEW THREAD:
>>91539477
>>91539477
>>91539477
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>>91539440
>And Thanos was the architect of the plot in The Avengers
But Thanos doesn't have screentime in the movie.

McDiarmid has tons.
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>>91539461
Fucking her super rich pro athlete husband so she can keep funding her dumb clothing company.
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>>91539506
Aw good for her.
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>>91539440
>I guess that makes him compelling too
Except Thanos has done absolutely nothing in the films. Not one line of him plotting something, apart from "I'll do it myself."
Maul is really no different from the usual MCU villian, though.
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>>91539428
>she'll never turn to the dark side and torture you by gnawing at your cock and balls with her gigantic teeth
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>>91537281
4>5>3>6>7>2>1>R1
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>>91538610
#WOKE
>>91538714
no it's not, no one who has ever said that here can ever find a source to back them up. Meanwhile:

>In July 2013, Williams was confirmed to be writing the score.[3] The music from the first two trailers for the film was reworked from earlier compositions.[4][5][6] Williams began working on the score in December 2014 and by June 2015, he had been through most of the film reels, working on a daily basis.[7][8] In May 2015, Williams said he would reuse themes from the previous films, such as those for Luke, Leia and Han, in ways that "will seem very natural and right in the moments for which we've chosen to do these kinds of quotes. There aren't many of them, but there are a few that I think are important and will seem very much a part of the fabric of the piece in a positive and constructive way." He said that working with J. J. Abrams was similar to the process he went through with George Lucas in the earlier films.[9]
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>>91539377
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>>91537870
>there is no bad SW movie
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>>91538666

you are literally baiting, they have the worst music of all the starwars movies.
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What do you guys think Ahsoka is doing in the Sith temple on Malachor ?

Learning about the Sith, to try to defeat them ?
Learning the ways of the Dark side to get stronger ? ("I'm no Jedi" line could hint to that)
Fighting some Sith ghosts ?
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>>91539340

I can't tell if you're being serious right now
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>>91539173
>Ford wasn't a professional actor
At last, someone says it out loud.
>>
Why is Boyega so based?
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>>91539247
so Kylo Ren didn't need to have any depth because Snoke was a villain too?
and Darth Vader didn't need a redemption arc and could have just been one of the Emperor's cronies because Sheev was running the show?
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>>91539975
He has the same nice guy atmosphere as Hamill, but doesn't take things too seriously like Ford.
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>>91539975
He's the Mark Hamill of the ST
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>>91539431
>Jedi fighting each other negates that advantage.
ok explain how Grevious got those lightsabers then, since he killed at least 4 Jedi (not counting Shaak-Ti in that deleted scene) because he wasn't a Jedi/Force Sensitive.

I will still never understand why George thought it'd make sense to give a robot a cough. Like I get that he's technically not just a droid, but it just seems like one of those things that seems like a good idea when you come up with it and don't think about it any further than that, but requires a shitton of explanation and mental gymnastics by guys like Chee and Pablo to justify it when it's really just not necessary in the first place.
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>>91540108
>why George thought it'd make sense to give a robot a cough
He was Vader-Proto-Type
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>>91538760
>George laughs
>He know how little the two of them give a shit
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>>91534355
>EUfags
leave EUfags the fuck out of this

most eu fans love the prequels and the prequel timeframe is incredibly rich with airtight EU story/continuity
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