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Syaf contract terminated by Mahvel

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>Following a major controversial over highly charged political and religious messages hidden into “X-Men Gold” #1, Marvel has officially announced that Ardian Syaf is no longer that series’ artist as his contract with the company has been terminated, “effective immediately.”

>Due to the fact that the next two issues of the twice-monthly series has already been sent to the printer, Syaf’s art will continue to be seen in “X-Men Gold” #2 and “X-Men Gold” #3. R.B. Silva will draw “X-Men Gold” #4, #5 and #6 — issue #4 was originally solicited with art by Syaf — and Ken Lashley will illustrate “X-Men Gold” #7, #8 and #9.

>The original plan for the series was for Syaf to act as lead artist, with Silva and Lashley also rotating on the book. Marvel has stated that a replacement for Syaf on “X-Men Gold” will be named in the near future.

>Marvel’s statement, released to CBR, reads in full:

>“Marvel has terminated Ardian Syaf’s contract effective immediately. ‘X-Men Gold’ #2 and #3 featuring his work have already been sent to the printer and will continue to ship bi-weekly. Issues #4, #5, and #6 will be drawn by R. B. Silva and issues #7, #8, and #9 will be drawn by Ken Lashley. A permanent replacement artist will be assigned to ‘X-Men Gold’ in the coming weeks.”
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Syaf also had this to post on his FB page.

>Hello, Worlds...

>My career is over now.
It's the consequence what I did, and I take it.
Please no more mockery, debat, no more hate. I hope all in peace.

>In this last chance, I want to tell you the true meaning of the numbers, 212 and QS 5:51.

>It is number of JUSTICE. It is number of LOVE. My love to Holy Qur'an...my love to the last prophet, the Messenger...my love to ALLAH, The One God.

>My apologize for all the noise. Good bye, May God bless you all. I love all of you.

>-Ardian Syaf-
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I think it was the right thing to do, but i'll never feel good seeing someone throw their career away like this, especially when they're just starting out

Could someone post the symbols and what they mean?
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>>91457816
>Ardian Syaf won't be lead artist of X-Men Gold
I think it's a win. I don't like his art. Boring house style
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>>91457816
poor guy, the whole thing really blew up in his face
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>>91457816
Damn, his career is over.
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>>91457958
While I agree, thinking he could get away with such an effort was not worth risking his career on. An example has to be set.
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>>91458041
Fuck him and fuck you too.
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>>91457861

I want to feel bad for him, but he brought it upon himself. He'll be lucky if he finds a job as a political cartoonist on shitty paper in his country.
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>>91458041
To be fair, it was discriminatory stuff
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>>91458041
I get it
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>>91458041
>poor guy

You actually have sympathy for a guy who hates Jews and Christians and advocates for Sharia as law of the land? You are a terrible person.
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>>91457816
This will happen to all antisemites, and good fucking riddance.
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>>91457958
The pictures are in news stories everywhere but essentially there's "QS 5:51" on Cyclops' shirt, referencing a verse about not submitting to Christian or Jewish leaders and a prominent "212" on a building which refers to a protest in Jakarta on Dec. 2, 2016 against a Christian governor for the reasons stating in the verse. Those are the big two, though there's a conspicuous shot of Kitty Pryde next to a sign that says jewelry (with her head cutting it off past "jew") and another two panels where it's franed to look like Nightcrawler (a german) is hitting Kitty Pryde (a jew) in the face with a bat.
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Can't say he didn't deserve it.
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>>91457958
>especially when they're just starting out
He's been doing comics for almost 10 years
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>>91457958
He's a piece of shit but I do wonder if he can crawl his way back up from this.
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>>91458107
>Cyclops
Colossus
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>>91458060
That's one of the things that frustrates me with this guy, acquiring the skill to illustrate entire comics well takes a long time and he squandered his opportunity to start his career off right with this shit.
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>>91457816
>work for Jewish company
>put on minority team book (with Jewish leader)
>put in hidden anti-nonmuslim (Jews and christians) messages in book
>get fired
Karma
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>>91458098
You're assuming that anon already knows the whole situation; the nature of the artist's messages wasn't included in detail in the OP

ya prick!
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>>91458107
Yikes
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It's just mind blowing how someone could commit career suicide like that. Really just unbelievable.
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Pretty bold move by the guy in the first place. I kinda blame Marvel editorial for not catching it but this IS Marvel editorial we're talking about.

Sucks to have your career ruined even if you were the one who ruined it yourself. I'm old enough to have a career and I can't imagine what I'd do if I fucked up and was told I couldn't do it anymore.
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>>91458041
No,what he did was the equivalent of a white guy putting 14/88 in his drawing, he deserve eveything he got.
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Hail Syaf, he dindu nuffin
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>>91458139
>karma
No, that's cause and effect
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>>91457861
I feel no sympathy for him. There's a reason he didn't bring it up until he got flack, because instead of just doing his job, he wanted to shove in his own ideals into the comic in the most subliminal way possible.
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>>91457816
>the pc police took down another artist in the name of MUH FEELINGS
Getting sick of this shit, people should be aloud to do what they want when it comes to art, it can't hurt someone physically, so it shouldn't be an issue.
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>>91458201
Nobody's going to get these jokes just give up
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>>91458231
Fuck off Hasan
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>>91458041
that what you get for trying to mock your overlords
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>>91458257
He cost Marvel money, that's more than feelings.
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>>91458281
allah ackbar
*explodes*
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>>91457816
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Get fucked, asshole!
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>>91458289
If anything it's the opposite, now everybody's buying the issue before they can issue recalls because there's value to it now
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>>91458207
They're pretty obscure references, but besides that i don't think it would have been any better if they had kept on such a discriminatory person anyways
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>>91458013
Boring artist for boring book.
>>91458207
>I kinda blame Marvel editorial for not catching
No one but indonesians got that reference, so fuck off, retard.
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>>91458257
If this was a creator-owned book then I would agree. But it isn't. He was a work-for-hire artist.
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>>91457861
>I hope all in peace.

Except for, y'know, non-Muslim Indonesians, who deserve mob violence.

Asshole.
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>>91458345
Marvel doesn't get any of that though, retailers already paid them for the issues months ago. They did have to spend money removing the art for digital and reprints.
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>https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/04/11/x-men-1-gold-regular-first-print-now-selling-50-amazon/

you know, back in the day, X-Men #1 sold 8mln copies. given how much we live in a times similar to the 90s, wouldn't it be hilarious, if X-Men gold #1 also sold a shitload, and for an insane price?
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>>91458257
I know you are trying to bait for (you)s, but this isn't like those comedy strips where you can take the piss out of everyone when they fuck up (like with Charlie Hebdo), this was straight up anti Christian/Jewish propaganda hidden in the comics, which is something really damn stupid and actually awful to do.

Then again, this also showcases how bad the Marvel Editorial is, or do i have to post that fucking grammar murder in Miss America #2?
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>>91458257
This isn't because of SJWs if that's what you're implying
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>>91458367
They weren't calling for the violent removal of his head of anything. They were calling for him to peacefully step down from his position because no Christians allowed.
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>>91458107
>where it's franed to look like Nightcrawler (a german) is hitting Kitty Pryde (a jew) in the face with a bat.
Where is this scene in question?
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>>91458207
>I kinda blame Marvel editorial for not catching

I don't, given that they are specific references to Indonesian politics and Marvel editors live in New York generally.
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>have a dream job
>throw it all away because of an old book
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>>91457816
And to think just a few days ago people here on /co/ were convinced they wouldn't fire him just because he's a muslim.
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>>91458211
>14/88
What does that mean?
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>>91458477
>marvel
>dream job
has anyone ever thought that maybe he wanted out of this ride?
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>>91458424
>peacefully step down
*rot in jail
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>>91457861
>It is number of JUSTICE. It is number of LOVE. My love to Holy Qur'an...my love to the last prophet, the Messenger...my love to ALLAH, The One God.

So basically it's a message of "fuck everyone who isn't like me or believes something I don't."

It's baffling to me that people honestly try to defend the religion. I'm not saying all Muslims are bad, because I've met some that are genuinely good people, but those that follow the philosophy to a T are narcissists.
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>>91458516
nothing, just random numbers
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>religions ruin lives
NEWS AT 11
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>>91457816
Good, now marvel will have to give a damm about the x-men, we know they put a mediocre writer and artist on this book because they dont care, now they will have to put a good artist.
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>>91458516
14 words
8=h
88=hh=heil hitler
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>>91458516
White nationalist thing

The 14 is about preserving and promoting white people/culture. There is a sentence stating it in 14 words. Should be able to google.

the 88 bit is a reference to hitler - H is the 8th letter of the alphabet. Heil Hitler
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>>91458516
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_Words
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I love how much shitstorm this situation caused
I want to kiss the guy
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>>91457816
>turn down Green Lanterns books and leave DC
>go to work for Marvel and put on X-Men book
>decide to sneak in Muslim propaganda since he got away with it last time
>fired
>career over
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>>91457816
>>91457861
I wonder what he'll do to pay the bills now.
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>>91458653
He might become a truck driver
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>>91458653
Draw jihadist pamphlets.
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>>91458611
>I want to kiss the guy
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>>91458615
>since he got away with it last time

What was the last time?
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>>91458059
>>91458098
>>91458211
>>91458288
It's a joke you nincompoops.
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>>91458698
Now when I look at her, she does look like one of them terrorist, isn't she? Or a thief
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>>91458709
Something in Batgirl I believe. No one noticed it because no one reads Barbara Gordon Batgirl.
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>>91458534
>I'm not saying all Muslims are bad, because I've met some that are genuinely good people

If they were good people, they wouldn't choose to adhere to a terrorist ideology made up by a genocidal child rapist.

That's like saying "I met this Klansman once who was a great guy #notallKKK"
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>>91458742
Yeah. A killer one, I tell ya
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He still has work at DC though. Or are they kicking him off of Green Lanterns too?
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>>91458370
The book also had to be pulled from Comixology until they could scrub all the subliminal messages out of it, so any digital sales they would have gotten from the controversy or just from people looking to buy it in that period was void.

Also, now they have to scrub through the next two issues to make sure he didn't sneak anything in there too and, since those have already been sent to the printers, potentially have to do a recall which would cost them even more.

I mean, I find it funny and all because screw Marvel, but to say this guy shouldn't have been fired for this is insane.
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>>91458766
Apparently, the world is not "awaken" enough to see this

>>91458776
Given that the overlords of DC are the same as overlords of Marvel, I guess that yeah.
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>>91457958
Meanwhile in /pol/
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>>91458466
Yeah, no one would have caught this were it not for one lone Indonesian redditor.
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>>91458766
Except the Bible also perpetuates some shitty morals too. If you follow them to a T, you get the Crusade.

Also, KKK is a group, not a religion.
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>>91458804
But have they given any official statement?
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>>91458802
That sneaky bastard!
I guess that there's no bigger punishment than reading X-Men. And now they'll have to re-read it numerous times, before they're sure
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>>91458776
No, he was never on Green Lanterns. Announced last year but then was taken off the book before it came out.
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>>91458751
a few shopfags had some fun with that a while back, have a few but wish I had saved the rest
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>>91458837
Wasn't Crusade against muslims, though? It's like this group were always troublemakers
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>>91458742
Explain the joke to us, O wise one.
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>>91458888
not that guy but it seems like a Muslim bombing joke to me, not really funny but it's there
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>>91457958
/pol/ right now
>>91458041
Best post!
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>>91458848
So does that mean we can already cross it off of pic related?
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>>91458888
nice double eights. In a thread that has a lot of double eights
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>>91458776
He turned down GL for X-Men. And now....
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>>91458742
Well it bombed pretty hard
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>>91458888
Muslim.

Blowing something up.

It was pretty obvious.
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>>91457958
He's got enough talent that I think he could make a comeback. Maybe not at the big 2. I would think some place like black mask would actually go for his shit.

>>91458207
The issue was posted here, and nobody caught it then. And 4chan is as versed in racial insults as you'll find on the internet.

>>91458211
A better example would be dumping Lev 20:13. in the book. The quote by itself is an unabiguosly accepted part of the koran. Even if it isn't followed the same way, or strictly by all muslims.

>>91458424
They also want him in jail for blasphemy. And those are the relative moderates. Darul Islam literally want him murdered.
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>>91458924
someone should do the ms marvel pic, though
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>>91458837
The Crusages were largely a defensive war against Muslim Invaders into Europe. It's just that the last one was offensive, and ended in failure, smearing the reputation of the Crusaders for the rest of time. Apparently it's France's fault.
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What did he do? Can someone post the page
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>>91458924
I guess, but it never should have been added there since the book has been out a year and he never did any issues.

Really glad he didn't though, imagine having that shit in there with Simon and his family?
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>>91458924
#BrinkBackSyafGate
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>>91458837
>muh crusades
>muh christianity
>not even getting either part correct

What is it with mudslime apologists and doing this?

You haven't defended Islam, you just changed the subject with outright lies about something completely different.
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>>91458946
He turned X-Men down for Allah.
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>>91458984
Gotcha fampai.

>>91458960
Indonesian news sites are slamming Marvel already. That shit is going to bleed into Tumblr, image is imminent.
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>>91459021
>Muh mudslime apologist

How am I even saying this? It's without a doubt a religion that promotes violence, aggression, and intolerance. That is not debatable. Please, explain it to me.
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>>91457861
typical excuse bullshit

>but its LOVE, AND PEACE GUYS

>ISLAM ISNT MEAN!

nah dude youre a racist cunt same as everyone else you just got caught
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>>91458881
>Wasn't Crusade against muslims, though? It's like this group were always troublemakers
Look it up. Most of the people the Crusaders killed were Christian. Basically they had to raid and pillage on their way in order to stay supplied, and the cities they robbed were mostly Christian.
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>>91458837
Different anon but, christians being barbaric a thousand years ago doesn't excuse barbarism in 2017.

And the KKK is a group with a belief system. A religion is a group with a belief system. The only difference is many religions go cosmic and metaphysical with their beliefs because they were created at a time when people we're dumb as fucking dirt. The same reason the KKK uses dated science like the shit Jimmy the Greek said or Dicaprio's character believes in Django.
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>>91458981
The bottom right of >>91459058 is what he drew in X-Men. Middle left is what it's referring to.
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>>91459077
That's why I'm a buddhist
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>>91457816
10 bucks says he starts drawing ISIS propaganda with the X-men in it
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>>91459081
>christians being barbaric a thousand years ago doesn't excuse barbarism in 2017.

I'm not saying it does. Never said anything even close to that.
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>>91459090
I don't see anything wrong? Gas clouds around a german maybe?
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>>91459070
You just changed the subject with outright lies about "but muh Christians."

Without fail, that's what mudslime apologists do when confronted with how objectively shit their ideology is.

It you're not a mudslime apologist, then stop impersonating one.
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>>91459145
He knows you didn't, but it would be hard to counter you without imagining you were implying things he was ready to counter.
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>>91459209
The shirt Colossus is wearing is a Qur'an verse. The Qur'an verse that is pictured on the left.
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>>91458128
Muslims are known for being short-sighted.
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>>91459238
Wew thanks for spoonfeeding me, good riddance
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Will he be a martyr? At least by his brethren?
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>>91459145
That's exactly what you did. Whether it was your intention or not is beside the point.

I'll give you some room to wiggle here: why did you bring up the crusades if not to compare the actions?

>>91459228
anon 1
>Muslims are scummy because their book is based on a scummy guy

anon 2
>but the crusades prove the bible is scummy

Why say that if not to excuse the actions of muslims?
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>>91458962
Venice using the crusades as an excuse to sack the Byzantine empire didnt help
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>>91457861
>It is number of JUSTICE
Yes this number about not trusting the jews is all about JUSTICE.
No idea why he thought this even made sense though.There was no point to this, like not even from a brainwashing scheme, those numbers mean nothing to the average person. What was he trying to do?
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>>91459383
>Yes this number about not trusting the jews is all about JUSTICE.
He's not wrong, though
Trust jews at your own peril
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>>91459383
>those numbers mean nothing to the average person. What was he trying to do?
Make Allah proud? He's clearly a devout believer, he probably thinks it will get him good boy points.
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>>91459401
Marvel's run by Jews and the writer for the comic he's on is Jewish. He was playing with fire.
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>>91457861
This reads like a suicide bomber's last note. Marvel HQ is gonna get Charlie Hedbo'd.
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>>91458881
At the time of the crusades, the Islamic Ummayad Caliphate had already conquered Spain and was pushing into France. There were two major fronts to the Crusades, the famous one in the East meant to back up the Byzantines against the invading Seljuk Turks (the Turks had just recently conquered Muslim principalities content with living in the sphere of influence of the Byzantines and governing multiethnic and multiracial city states of Christians, Jews, and Muslims, and were now butchering entire cities and encroaching on Byzantine territory), and the Reconquista, or the reconquest of Spain, aka the front no one likes to talk about because it shows that the Crusades were a reactionary war against Islamic aggression.

Or at least they were originally. The Eastern front kind of went off the rails when they were more successful than anyone expected initially and the Papacy decided it could solve all its problems by keeping the kingdoms in a constant state of war fever, urging lesser nobles to go grab territory and treasure from the Muslims. They decided that marching for years just to get to the right battlefield was harder than just looting the Christian peasants along the way and eventually Crusaders ended up sacking Byzantium itself.
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>>91459486
Or maybe, he was Fighting Fire with Fire?
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>>91459496
Holy shit, imaginr all the comics Ike could move off shelves from pity points.
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>>91459431
If I was allah, I would be proud of my good boy for sure
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>>91459383
>>91459401
I don't mean to be the faggot here but are you ignoring christianity for a reason?

The script isn't just about jews. He spit in the face of the largest religion in the country and world. It wasn't the jew backlash that they feared. The company courting straight white males like myself obviously didn't want the "leftist" shitstain of favoring muslims more than christians.

Gugenheim being the writer obviously shifts focus but lets be fucking real here.
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>>91459307
I brought it up as a reference that if you follow these books and religions to a T, it's no shit that you'll be a violent sociopath. My original point before you decided to cherrypick my comments was in defense to >>91458534 , where all I said is that I've met people who defined themselves as Muslim that weren't complete dicks, because they chose to pick the non-violent and non-aggressive words from the book. It's not defending anyone like this douchebag artist.

>wiggle room

Go fuck yourself. You guys sperg out the moment someone's comment isn't "REEE MUDSLIME" and do everything you can to throw everything out of context.
Islam is a shit religion, no duh, but that wasn't what I was explaining in the first fucking place.
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>>91459576
No one cares about christians.
Sorry.
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>>91459598
Unironically this.
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>>91459515
>the Reconquista, or the reconquest of Spain, aka the front no one likes to talk about because it shows that the Crusades were a reactionary war against Islamic aggression.
That's because it wasn't really a crusade, it was a long process that took several centuries with very little involvement from other Western powers, it was mostly the Spanish christian kingdoms slowly conquering muslim territory which ended when Granada was taken in 1492.
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>>91459225
see >>91459583
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>>91457861
Sure bud the verse in question is about war and distrust. It tells Muslims not to work with Jews or Christians. It is taken out of context by extremists all the time. Disgusting.
He thinks no one reads his scripture but extremists.
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>>91459652
Its just interesting that at the time of the Crusades there were two major fronts where Christians and Muslims were fighting, but the only one anyone knows about is the one fought on Muslim territory for (((some))) reason.
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>>91459576
Christianity is everywhere I guess I can tune it out as I do in my daily life.
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>>91459583
>if you follow these books and religions to a T, it's no shit that you'll be a violent sociopath.

That's certainly not true for Christians who follow the old testament, not Buddhists.

It seems to be mostly a Muslim thing, because Mohammad was a genocidal child rapist. As far as we know, Jesus and Buddha were not.
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>>91459681
Well, I'm not sure if I should say it here.. but that's not why Trump won... Him being the christian was the least important matter, especially that he equally praised jews as well. But maybe let's not start this discussion here...
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>>91457861
>Please no more mockery, debat, no more hate. I hope all in peace.
>I dindunothing, shut up now or else!
Those fucking fanatical shits I swear.
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>>91459598
This.

The sad thing is if this had just been about Christians then he wouldn't have been fired, but there's not a SJW alive that can talk shit about Jews and get away with it.
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>>91458041

Now he can get his dream job working for Boom!
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>>91459717
>Genesis 19:34
And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

>Exodus 21:20-2120
When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. 21 But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money.

If you're trying to tell me the Old Testament isn't fucked at points, I disagree. Not comparing them, but I am saying following that will make you fucked.
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>>91459702
It's because the "Reconquista" was a local issue in Spain, history books don't care about Spain itself, only what Spain did to/with other countries. The Crusades were several campaigns in which various European powers sent soldiers all the way to the Middle East, they had more of an effect on the wider world.
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>>91459751
The best proof is in music business.
Any band that was labeled as "anti-christian", didn't have problem with having mainstream popularity.

Meanwhile, bands that were anti-semitic, are considered extreme fringe, and are a big no-no's.
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>>91459598
Lol. Sure.

Keep thinking that. They aren't a protected class in the media, but they're the largest group in the world.

>>91459583
Your response to "the quran is scummy" was "the bible is scummy and created scum too."

That's a justification. You faggots just REEE when someone spouts flat out facts that a large portion of muslims DO in fact back many of the tenants and principals espoused in the book. Just look at the stats for how many legitimately do think that you deserve to be punished for drawing their favorite child molester.
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>>91459058
DC is somehow blamed...i bet Spencer and Waid are already firing up their tweets to shit on DC...
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>>91459576
>He spit in the face of the largest religion in the country and world.

Marvel has done this shit for years. Lately they shit on white men just as hard but no one cared or praised it. Mockingbird had a little girl shoot an innocent cop in the head because LOL TAMPONS.
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>>91459813
Sorry, meant *New Testament.

I'm pretty sure Christians don't follow the old one, because Jesus said God is chill now and done with flooding the earth and turning people into salt.
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>>91459863
>Marvel has done this shit for years
Care to provide examples?
The Purifiers don't count.
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>>91459835
>Your response to "the quran is scummy" was "the bible is scummy and created scum too."

It is, yeah, if you follow it exactly as written. That doesn't make the Quran any less shit. The difference is that people have learned to stick with the good lessons of the Bible moreso as a society than Muslims, which inherently has made them a more violent and intolerant culture as a whole. But that wasn't the point. You MAKE it a point because you are a babby who can't stand to hear anything that isn't "REEEE MUDSLIME," so instead of reading what I wrote and getting the idea of it, you automatically shove it into your shitty pre-conceived context.
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>>91459863
White men and LEOs aren't even close to being as big of a national or international demographic as christians.

I guess you're right, in a waym, but the fact is they removed the artist so clearly they do care and everyone is focusing on judaism. It's was at least as much about shitting on the largest global demographic in the world in the same week the MCU/Disney side was releasing the trailer for one of their big releases. If you think this came down to the jews that run comics instead of the global christian audience you're neglecting a major factor in the decision.
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>>91459943
Why nobody mentions that christianity is not only Bible, but also Oral Tradition (no innuendo intended)? Also, for thousand year, people were prohibited from reading Bible exactly, because they would misinterpret it. Then Luther came and ruined everything
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>>91459962
They let Chuck Austen make fun of Christianity with exploding communion waffles, and he wasn't fired for that. That's for sure
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>>91459991
I'm talking text specifically. That's why I said Christianity in general has adapted better, because with them there was almost an evolution of understanding what morals to get out of the book.
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>>91460036
That was a big pile of failure because Catholics don't even believe in the rapture.
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>>91459431
Funny thing, the Indonesians are giving him shit for being a hypocrite, since hes quoting a verse about not associating with jews while working at fucking MARVEL
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>>91460085
And even if they did, why would everyone suddenly follow the Church of Humanity or whatever they were called?
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>>91460121
Part of the cockamamie plan was that Kurt would become Pope with the use of an image inducer and they'd make it fail to reveal he looks like a demon.
I can't remember whether or not Austen addressed that Popes are all senior citizens and that this would mean waiting decades for the chance that he'd get the title.
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>>91458373
>https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/04/11/x-men-1-gold-regular-first-print-now-selling-50-amazon/

people who buy floppies are 95% speculators still.

obviously the first printing of Gold is going to be worth more than Adjectiveless #1 since at the most there's going to be like 100k copies of Gold in the wild and 8M of the other one, now with a recall you can subtract like maybe 10k from retailers who over ordered to get the Deadpool variant.
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>>91460114
I've been on /co/ for years, but it has never been as filled with overly-political faggots like now. God for fucking bid you say something that isn't 100% critical.
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>>91457816
>>91457861
Was it worth it, Syaf
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>>91460206
How were they gonna make Kurt become Pope?
And even if they get the image inducer to fail, wouldn't that just mean that people would think that muties are trying to take over the Church? Nightcrawler's existence is common knowledge, people would recognize him instead of assuming he's a demon.
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>>91460036
And most companies let black people say nigger without getting fired.
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>>91458776
no one is going to hire him, he's not talented/famous enough to overcome his actions, He's not Frank Miller

also Syraf was sneaking in the same stuff in Batgirl and Superman Earth One, E1 is one of DC's evergreen books we'll have to see if they release an edited version of that the next time they print the book.
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>>91460257
I regret nothing
-Syaf, 19XX-2017
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>>91460263
Well he was already a priest but not really. During Claremon't's 2nd run he was training to be one, then in Joe Casey's run he suddenly became one (even though the process should have been much longer), but it was implied that there was some mind control/backroom shenanigans happening. Austen was just trying to tie up a loose plot thread and failing quite spectacularly due to his ignorance and general hackery.
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>>91457861
Some crybaby guy is now projecting because he got caught pushing his agenda. He should have known better.
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Why couldn't he have put in something about peace and love and not about hating jews and christians?:
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>>91460392
because YOLO
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>>91460223
>God for fucking bid you say something that isn't 100% critical.

What you said was 100% critical.

Just incorrectly so against Christians, in a thread about about an Islamist sneaking hateful Islamist propaganda into comic books.

Consequently, this is a thing that Muslims and Muslim apologists always do, without fail, and also incorrectly, when Islamic ideology is brought up.
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>>91460263
Chuck Austin is not a good writer and really dislikes Christianity. That's really the only answer you need. After the Nightcrawler-Clergy arc he started setting up an alternate dimension filled with mutants who look similar to Nightcrawler, and another one that was filled with mutants like Angel. Both groups had been at war with each other for thousands of years and had visited Earth. Marvel fired him before he got to where the arc was obviously going: Implying that Christianity was really inspired by demonic-looking and angelic-looking mutants fighting each other on Earth thousands of years ago.
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>>91458678
severely underrated and overlooked post, m'lad.
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>>91460392
Because hate is the superior emotion.
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>>91460263
Austen was writing the other X-Men book opposite Morrison which had already established an obscene number of mutants, and that in one generation's time there would be no more humans.

The X-Men were like celebrities and mutants had positions of power they never had before in all walks of life, it wasn't as far fetched as it sounds at the time
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>>91460257
I mean, in a certain way, maybe? 99.9% of the people talking about this wouldn't have known anything about this otherwise, so it does bring awareness to an "issue" that up until now, literally only a Indonesians (and who the fuck cares about Indonesians) knew about.
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>>91460336
>Syraf was sneaking in the same stuff in Batgirl and Superman Earth One
He was? Any examples? First I'm hearing of this.
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>>91460392
Because he wanted to comment on a current political topic that he was interested in. He agreed with the protesters and he wanted to declare his support for them.
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>>91460498
>literally only a Indonesians (and who the fuck cares about Indonesians) knew about.
O now it's ok because of some racist shit.
Can you get more slimy and vile when exposed you fanatic shits.
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>>91460498
Yeah, now people outside Indonesia can know that all those "but look at Indonesians, they prove that muslims can be nice and tolerant" apologist arguments are bullshit. Good job promoting your cause, Syaf.
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>>91460565
I just see that as bullshit damage control
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>>91458098
>not hating jews
I mean yea hes an idiot for doing that and could have just done it in his own work instead of shit hes getting paid for.
But lets be honest, no one likes jews
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>>91460519
there are drawings of Indonesian politicians he likes in billboard in Batgirl and the 212 thing appears on firefighters in Superman.
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>>91460677
>But lets be honest, no one likes jews
You've been on /pol/ way too much, most people stopped hating jews long ago. They're normal people and part of our society, deal with it.
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>>91460744
>t. Mordechai Shekelberg-Goldstein
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>>91458924
>Somebody tries to sell the issue for hundreds of dollars
There's a ebay listing for $199.99 and $7.50 shipping
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>>91460858
Oi vey!
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>>91460858
Post pics are it's not real.
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>>91458924
They're already selling it at, like, 30 dollars. I think, don't quote me.
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>>91460431
The comment to defend was essentially "Not every person of a specific thing is always awful." That's not 100% critical.
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>>91457816
Now I'm really curious about these sort of hidden messages in the next couple issues. They have supposedly been printed already, after all.
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>>91460943
>They're already selling it at, like, 30 dollars

...
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>>91461010
Yeah that was stupid, my bad. Please no more mockery, debat, no more hate. I hope all in peace.
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The guy had balls to do this but Marvel is just spinning this to boost sales for X-Men Gold. They always like to make something appear controversial so that they can profit from it. Remember Nazi Cap?
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>>91461054
You forgot love. May God bless you
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Good fucking riddance
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>>91457816

That's a pretty shitty statement.

Absolutely no mention of the fact that he was an Islamic extremist who snuck Islamist propaganda endorsing discrimination against non-Muslims, that their incompetent editors failed to catch.
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>>91460744
>implying i go on /pol/
/pol/ is just a bunch of backwater retarded parrots mindlessly spouting whatever gets the biggest rise out of people and pretending this makes them the enlightened few.
>They're normal people and part of our society
No one believes that anon. We just tolerate them and look how far we've fallen because of that.
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>>91461158

/pol/ is the board of peace.
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>>91458041
I thought all the replies were going to be "Carlos!" or something like that, but some anons legitimately didn't get the joke. Huh.
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>>91460858
I think that square should be save for when the normal cover gets to $100, it's currently hovering around $25-30 which is fantastic for a book that's only been out for 6 days.

>http://www.ebay.com/itm/X-Men-Gold-1/332178024266?_trksid=p2047675.c100012.m1985&_trkparms=aid%3D777003%26algo%3DDISCL.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D40130%26meid%3Df6c01109a24d4da0b941536214829197%26pid%3D100012%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D132155834366

here's the Jim Lee cover being sold for $3,999.99! the 90's are back let the speculation commence.
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>>91461227
people tend to lose their sense of humor when it gets religious or political these days. sad times.
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>>91458924
>syaff hasn't thrown a fit
God dammit we almost had bingo
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>>91461334
Just wait for it.
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>>91457861
>It is number of JUSTICE. It is number of LOVE

Yup, he's a liar and an asshole. He's like Dobson with talent.
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>>91461318
Yeah but to be fair the square did say "someone tries to sell" and >>91461306 is showing people trying hard to sell their copy for $100+.

I guess maybe the square should be changed to "someone actually pays $100 for the regular issue on eBay".
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Fucking sjw's are already destroying each other.

Praise the hijab, praise women's rights!
Kill the Jews!
You're fired Goy.
I lost my job, truly Allah is great.
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>>91461505
It's like it's some part of plan, or sth
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>>91457816

Well, congratulations! You got yourself caught!
Now what's the next step in your master plan?
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>>91461558
WTC

oh wait
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>>91457816
Good, he fucked up on Kurt's tail.
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>>91457861
>>91458048
ALLAHU ACKBAR MARVEL HQ
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>>91461733
Syaf writes a letter to marvel employees:
"some of you infidels are okay..."
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>>91461530
I honestly do think there is a plan and I don't think its going to remain a big thing in the years to come. I think its just these idiot college age kids that are going to wake up one day and realize that they are nearing their thirties and having nothing to show for it but a gender studies degree and then real life ensues.
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>>91460658
That's too sincere to be damage control. He said right out that Muslims are forbidden to vote for non-Muslim leaders.
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>>91461853
*don't think
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>white writer makes Cap a Nazi and spends a year pandering to /pol/ faggots

Marvel: Give him his own event!

>Muslim writer puts some numbers on a shirt

Marvel: Destroy his career!

Man, being white is the best. Thanks for setting my life on easy mode, society.
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>>91461306
Man, so close to getting a bingo.

Someone go on Facebook and egg Syaf on
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>>91461952
>Spencer

>Pandering to /pol/ faggots.

You don't read comics, do you?
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>>91458048
>>91461054
>Please no more mockery, debat, no more hate. I hope all in peace.
I like how that sounds like a longer variant of "pls no bully"
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>>91459383
>Yes this number about not trusting the jews is all about JUSTICE.
That is correct.
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>>91461952
Islam isn't a race you retard.
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>>91461952
>Tumblr doesn't read comics.

Wow, how shocking...
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>>91459813
>Hurr the New Testament produces warmongering sociopaths
>can only quote the Old Testament

The New Testament never advocates violence against even oppressors like the Romans. Fuck sake Jesus told the Jews to pay their Roman taxes which was a controversial statement for a Jewish leader to say.
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>>91462199
>Fuck sake Jesus told the Jews to pay their Roman taxes which was a controversial statement for a Jewish leader to say.

Kek
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>>91461952
You are welcome my bright friend. You have to use your privilege as best as possible.
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>>91457861
He dindu nuffin he was just expressing his love for persecuting jews and christians as an act of love for his god
Do you hate love?
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>>91462237
You ever wonder why tax collectors are compared to sinners? It's because they were local Jewish elites who paid Rome for the privilege of collecting taxes for them. The Romans bid the contract out to the local elite, the Jew who won had a base quota to collect and after that he could skim from the top any extra money he bled out of his fellow Jew.
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>>91461227
they're not here for jokes, they're here to attack people with different points of view than them
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>>91462366
I just thought to myself "what a wonderful world"
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>>91458060
Oh I imagine he'll find at least that much, he'll find a nice cushy job in whatever his country's equivalent of Breitbart is.
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>>91460206
Actually, the requirements for being pope aren't as strict as you might think. It typically goes to cardinals of so many years, but failing that any priest can become pope
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About that kamala pic
please be a kelley
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>>91459515
>The Eastern front kind of went off the rails when they were more successful than anyone expected initially and the Papacy decided it could solve all its problems by keeping the kingdoms in a constant state of war fever, urging lesser nobles to go grab territory and treasure from the Muslims. They decided that marching for years just to get to the right battlefield was harder than just looting the Christian peasants along the way and eventually Crusaders ended up sacking Byzantium itself.

I've also read that Roman politics probably played into this too, as the papacy, and the prestige of Rome was greatly deminished by the city that basicly founded itself on 'ROME 2.0 NOW WITH JESUS AND GREEK LITERACY."
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>>91457861
Are those his actual words, spelling mistakes and all?

Herd to believe someone like that got hired as a writer in the first place.
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>>91461505
Why aren't more fucking with Marvel telling them how bigoted they are for firing a Muslim expressing his religious beliefs. It'd be hilarious and more than deserved.
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>>91462721
He's an artist.
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>>91462781
Ah.
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>>91459681
If people cared about Christianity, Cruz would have won. Trump pretends to be Christian not because people care about Christianity, but because they care about atheism. Trump can't claim to be atheist, so he just defaults to whatever Christian denomination he wants.
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>>91462766
>Good golly gee, I sure wish someone would break into my house and fuck my wife. That would sure make life more interesting.
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>>91462766
This is just barely getting a non-corporate reaction due to the fact that this was a Judeo-Christian double-whammy, and it's the Judeo portion that got him fired, Christians complaining about the verse would just get Tumblr on Syaf's side
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>>91459814
But the whole point of the Crusades was that they failed and had no effect on the world. It was meaningless violence in the name of religion.
The Reconquista, however, has lasting effects on Spanish culture for better or for worse.
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>>91462882
>has lasting effects on Spanish culture for better or for worse.
And like I said, nobody outside of Spain cares because nobody cares about Spain.
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>>91462882
If anything they were a warm-up until the Mongols came and ruined the middle east so hard it never recovered.
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>>91462957
There are many British historians who do.
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>>91461991
It really should become the new "pls no bully".
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>>91457861
Qu'ran, Sura 2:12
> Unquestionably, it is they who are the corrupters, but they perceive [it] not.
Qu'ran, Sura 5:51
> O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.
tldr "Don't trust Jews & Christians, even if they honestly believe they will help you."
I'm not seeing the love here.
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>>91463338
212 isn't referring to the passage in the Qu'ran. It's referring to the protests that were held on December 2nd.
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>>91463338
Sounds like love and justice to me!
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What are the odds he goes postal in the name of Allah?
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>>91463776
100%.

>>91457816
Now that we know that even referencing the Qur'an is literally hate speech, how do we get Ms. Mohammad canceled?
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>>91463776
>Marvel offices get bombed
It would be an expected death for this publisher.
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>>91463133
Pls no bully is perfect as it is, no need to change perfection
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He's not sorry for being a mudslime racist

He's sorry he got caught

Good riddance, his career is pretty much over, except in racist Indonesia I guess
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>>91459383
is that a new pic by TheBoogie?
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>>91460431
>What you said was 100% critical.
Not against Christians, but against Christian ideology. Which, like Muslim ideology, can be shit at times, and most certainly can be interpreted to justify shitty things.

The grand scope of the point is that being a Muslim doesn't make you an inherently bad person, just because the ideology, when taken literally, would mean that, because religion has always been subject to a lot of interpretation.
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>>91465134

You keep saying that, and you keep being wrong.

Comparing any other religion to Islam is like comparing jaywalking to genocide.

I'm not sure what went so wrong in your life that you would even attempt to equate the two. Its not some "enlightened middle ground view", it's dangerously psychotic.
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"My career is over now, I'll never be able to provide for my family, I've thrown away years of hard work, but hey, at least I got to tell people that I'm against having a Christian be governor of Jakarta. Scrawling those numbers barely anyone would recognize in a comic was totally worth it."

I will never EVER stop finding imbecile's self-destructive stupidity hilarious.
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>>91465519
You don't want to know what's in the old testament. Hoo boy.
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>>91457816
Wtf? I hate Marvel now
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>>91458534
>but those that follow the philosophy to a T are narcissists
You can say that about any religion you fucking idiot
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>>91466521

At least you can criticize the old testament without being beheaded or blown up. Poor Charlie Hebdo learned that the hard way.
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>>91466521
Good thing Orthodox, Catholic and Protestant church and most of the bigger christian denominations do not follow the Old Testament, nor do they adhere to the New Testament anywhere near as much as Islam sects do with the Koran.
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>>91466521
Because today's christiandom is like te one from the middle age.
Not like Islam, an evolved religion.
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>>91457816

Good fuck the scum bag
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>>91457816
>inb4 Syaf allahu ackbars Marvel HQ in the name of the religion of peace
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>G. Willow Wilson, the creator of Marvel's Ms. Marvel character and a Muslim, also wrote about Syaf and the X-Men Gold controversy on Sunday.

>"This is all to say that Ardian Syaf can keep his garbage philosophy. He has committed career suicide; he will rapidly become irrelevant. But his nonsense will continue to affect the scant handful of Muslims who have managed to carve out careers in comics. From what I can deduce off of Facebook, it appears he is trying to claim the Charlie Hebdo defense…ie, he doesn’t mean anything by it; we just don’t understand the nuance and subtly of the local bigotry. Much good may it do him. Goodbye, Ardian Syaf. We hardly knew ye, which is just as well."

Damn.
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>>91466521
>>91465519

What the book says is less important than how the people practice it. Outside of a few assfucked african countries, nobody's going around enforcing levitcus with armed death squads. On the other hand, Islam dominates religious terrorisim harder than Diamond dominates LCS books. Hell, even through in communisim, anarchisim and antifa, and Islamic terrorisim still beats every other ideology on the planet combined.

>>91463776
He's relatively a moderate. More likely is that some other insane motherfucker gets mailbomby at Marvel or some shit.
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>I have two copies of this issue

People are buying them off of eBay right now $15 - $20

Should I sell now or wait a few years?
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>>91466576
Try it in Uganda.

They're all books written by fucktards that lived in the desert and decreed that their opinions were sacred and should be The Final Word On Everything For All Time, and btw all unbelievers deserved to die. Christians just managed to twist themselves into knots worshipping a guy that said "you totally shouldn't kill nonbelievers. But don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you should ignore the holy texts about it being vital that unbelievers be killed. And that sacred law about stoning adulterous women to death is 100% sacred, but, like, ignore it. Not to say it's not sacred..."

This century it's Islam's turn to inspire the most violent bloody-minded retards, but looking at the Holy Books out there, genuinely looking at the pieces of shit, any of the Abrahamic religions has the makings for another idiotic holy war.
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>>91466861
Sell at least one now. I really feel like not going to stay high in value in the long run. No one will give a shit about 1 of 80k+ issues in a few years.
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>>91457958
He put some quoranic verse 5.51 i think, its basically says dont be friends with jews or Christians, he also put ALM on another guys tshirt which stands for tha Arab Liberation Movement
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>>91467374
Are there Arabs in Indonesia?

Thought it was All Lives Matter with the way this dude was trolling this issue.
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>>91463338
You missed ALM on the second panel, Arab Liberation movement
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Piece of shit puts years of work into fine-tuning a skill, makes a career of it, blows it all so he can put a secret message in a comic that almost nobody would understand or appreciate.

Guy must've spent his years of art training licking the lead paint.
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>>91467478
Muslims almost always support at least one psuedo terroist groups like the white hats, muslim brother hood or the ALM.

Not followed the guys so couldn't tell you if he meant all lives matter, but given that every other thing he slipped in was related to muslims in someway (ie quaranic verse and the 212 rally which was something to do with Indonesian chirstian vs Muslim politicans) i figured alm was probably also similarly related but ocfourse i dont really know.
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>>91467478
Arabs no, Muslim yes.
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>>91467767
>>91467805
I guess there is the group think but just between arabs an non arabs there are deathly rivalries.
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>>91467478
amazing that no one seems to know that the vast majority of Muslims don't live in the middle east, they live in India and Indonesia
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>>91457816
>get put on X-Men
>risk your whole career to put some shitty hateful quote from your shitty magic book
Goddamn, why are religious people so retarded? Do they think Allah is sitting on a cloud and thinking "Good job, Syaf! You just saved all of Islam by putting a anti-Muslim quote in a book about a Jew leader while working for Jews! Forty virgins for you!"

Was all this worth it?

Was it really worth it?

All it did was get everyone to hate his ass and blacklist himself from everyone. And as powerful as God is, I don't think he plans on getting you a free comic job soon.
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>>91460392
Because he's Muslim.
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>>91467916
And as I smarmily replied to the other two: Muslims don't just blindly back muslims. Arabs hate many non arabs. Is that the case with Indonesians?

And it's amazing you make the leap that I don't realize how vast islam reaches.
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>>91467936
He put in some shit he didn't think anyone but a few of his bros would spot for the lulz, forgetting that, oh right, fuck, actions totally do have consequences don't they?

Like some artist doodling a pedobear in a Power Pack comic or something. Fuck, people who get the reference will say so? On reddit? And word will spread? WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?!?!?!?!?
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>>91459496
>>91459551
Would Ike get killed in the crossfire?
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>>91459058
>Indonesian news sites are slamming Marvel already
Source?
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We, of course, took his words out of context, Islam is a religion of peace, surely he meant differently but we're blowing up disproportionately. Sorry, in the name of all white people.
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>>91468373
In a perfect world, yes.
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>>91468609
>Ike tries to use Bendis as a human shield
>Someone tries to activate an emergency procedure
>It fails because Ike's too cheap to get something better
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>>91458041
That'll teach him to ham it up like that.
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>>91461306
What a shame.

They sacrificed the career of a talented artist just to increase the value of a comic that no one will care about in 10 years!

Marvel really is the home of ideas, and they all stink!
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Why do people always blame the company and never a writer/artist?
There's a difference between avoiding writers and avoiding companies.
If I avoided Marvel altogether I wouldn't have enjoyed Tom King Vision and Carnage.
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>>91468920
dumb, reddit line jumper.
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>>91457861
>Justice and Love
>line in the quran that says Christians and Jews cannot be friends with Muslims or something
>number with a message that pretty much says there should not be a christian government

sure thing,
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>>91468773
>place is burning
>the sprinklers can't put it all out because he only paid for enough water for one fire per employee
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>>91457861
>Playing the victim

how typical
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>>91459717
Jesus ain't real from a historical prospective.
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>>91469324
>After the controversy, people think Stan Lee is dead
>His twitter stops posting for a while
>People make funeral tributes
>Turns out he just forgot his twitter
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>>91457816
Just give us Lashley as the regular with Silva helping, I doubt this will double-ship every month
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>>91458041
This nigga.
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>>91458041
holy fuck, this took much for me to get
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>>91469417
As far as Roman records show, you're wrong.

Even if none of them existed historically, that has absolutely no bearing on that point. Emulating an genocidal child rapist that never existed isn't any better than emulating one that did.
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>>91470051
I'm saying Biblical Jesus isn't real you fuck. There's plenty of evidence of "Jesuses" that were promoting a free Israel, and many of open revolution against the Romans.
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>>91459733

>Him being the christian was the least important matter, especially that he equally praised jews as well.

You act like those are mutually exclusive things. Don't American Christians love Jews?
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>>91470234
Christians love Jews in the sense that they love egging Israel into starting wars with everyone in the Middle East so that Jesus can come back and kill all the non-believers (including the Jews who don't convert).
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>>91458201
muslims are pretty well known for committing career suicide as long as it'll leave a shitshow behind that they'll be known for
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>>91470097

We're as certain that biblical Jesus existed as a person as we're sure as anyone else existed at the time who wasn't a literal emperor.

Which is still completely missing the point. Are you angry because your fedora is on too tight, or because Mohammad was a genocidal child rapist?
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>>91469417
Check out the works of Josephus and Titicus.

1st century historians that will tell you that you're an idiot.
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>>91470097
Biblical Jesus? As in the brother of James? The one who knew John The Baptist?

>"Festus was now dead, and Albinus was but upon the road; so he assembled the sanhedrin of judges, and brought before them the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ, whose name was James,......"

- Josephus, 1st century historian - Antiquities of the Jews (Book 20, Chapter 9, 1)

>"Now some of the Jews thought that the destruction of Herod's army came from God, and that very justly, as a punishment of what he did against John, that was called the Baptist: for Herod slew him, who was a good man... Herod, who feared lest the great influence John had over the people might put it into his power and inclination to raise a rebellion... Accordingly he was sent a prisoner, out of Herod's suspicious temper, to Macherus, the castle I before mentioned, and was there put to death."

- Antiquities of the Jews (Book 18, Chapter 5, 2)

>"About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he was one who performed surprising deeds and was a teacher of such people as accept the truth gladly. He won over many Jews and many of the Greeks. He was the Christ. And when, upon the accusation of the principal men among us, Pilate had condemned him to a cross, those who had first come to love him did not cease. He appeared to them spending a third day restored to life, for the prophets of God had foretold these things and a thousand other marvels about him. And the tribe of the Christians, so called after him, has still to this day not disappeared."

- Flavius Josephus: Antiquities of the Jews, Book 18, Chapter 3, 3
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>>91472315
>Titicus.
HA-HA
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>>91458041
I came to this thread hours after the fact and only now do i understand

quality pun
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>>91468434
>https://tirto.id/ardian-syaf-etika-kerja-dan-ideologi-marvel-cmpo

Google translate might've fucked some shit up.
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>>91458958
>And 4chan is as versed in racial insults as you'll find on the internet.
Oh, there are far worse places.
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For the reference. If I ever get a job at Marvel, would I get away with creating an alternate version of Kang who's black (assuming I keep the memery to minimum and write him as an actual character rather than a stereotype), or would someone catch on?
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>>91473539
He's literally an Egyptian. The joke is already as obvious as it can get.
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The most annoying part about this is that he's literally the stereotype that's going to take this as him and his kind being oppressed and radicalize more instead of realizing that he's in the wrong.

Which is definitely not to say we should find other ways to fight this. Everybody likes this needs to be shut down at every single turn.
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>>91473607
Good. Maybe we can finally get a bingo if he does that.
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The only way I can cut him some slack is that he doesn't live in the States. Maybe this kind of prejudice is more common where he's from, so he didn't realize how badly it would go over.
But what a dumb thing to do. No publisher will want to work with him after this.
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>someone decides to pull a Charlie Hebdo to avenge him
>everyone survives but Brevoort, Bendis, Slott, Leth and the bitch who writes America
One can dream.
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>>91473659
>wanting Perlmutter, Alonso, Amanat and Henderson to survive the purge
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>>91473642
Should punish him according to his own country's horrible laws instead of just politely being fired. Probably get his hands cut off or get executed.
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>>91473856
Good point.
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>>91473659
>>91473856
I do hope that all those people die
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>>91474073
Except Spencer.
As unpleasant as he is, I'm still waiting for him to lay off Marvel's cock and make another issue of Bedlam.
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>>91473659
>#JeSuisMutie starts trending
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>>91466701
>New issue of Ms. Marvel has Syaf as the villain
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>>91474423
Mutie is a derogatory term though.
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>>91474507
we're taking it back
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>>91474423
>It's OK if they say it.
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Now if we could only get that hack Ramos out of marvel, he talks shit about Trump but it's not retarded as to put some political stuff on his pages. he does on youtube tho.
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>>91473642
That's really what it seems like, he thought that if people caught on they'd just be like 'haha, that Ardian Syaf and his little jokes, he's so clever. Look how he indirectly depicted this jewess being hit in the face!'
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Good fucking riddance. As an Indonesia who was raised as Muslim, this is a good news.

Don't inject religious propaganda messages in comics, it's out of place. Period.
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>>91472315
People are going to spend a long time searching for the works of Titicus.
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>>91458041
>/pol/fags not getting the one good racist joke in the whole thread

Reverse SJWs.
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>>91458048

>Damn, his career is over.

He could become a religious artist. Although in case of Islam that means drawing fancy decorations on pamphlets and thats pretty much it.
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>>91476676
I will laugh my ass off if he becomes a muslim Jack Chick.
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The editors didn't notice it themselves at first because nobody's read an X-Men comic since the late 90s.
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>>91459431
> good boy points

Does he exchange them for halal tendies?
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>>91472315
>>91472571
biggus dickus
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>>91476792
Muslims aren't allowed to draw anything that's alive

So that would be very difficult
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>>91466701
I'm assuming I'm misinterpreting part of that about Charlie hebdo, did she compare this guy spouting divisive Islamic views with Charlie criticising those views?
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So how are muslims reacting to this? Especially the indonesian ones?
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>>91472571
Then look at the stuff from Josephus that I posted. You can also look at the Babylonian Talmud, writings from Lucian of Samosata, and letters from Pily The Younger (Roman governor of Bithynia) to Emporer Trajan.
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>>91457816
Good.
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>>91478976
Mass beheadings, calls for sharia law, suicide bombings and pig sacrifices.

Same as usual.
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>>91460945
it's still deflection
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>>91478976

Weren't they the ones who ratted him out to Marvel in the first place?
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>>91458107
>Nightcrawler (a german) is hitting Kitty Pryde (a jew) in the face with a bat.
Holy shit lol
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>>91467002
Islam has always been violent. learn some history apologist.
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This whole thing is sounding pretty islamophobic.
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>>91457816
>when you suicide bomb your own career
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>>91480023
When keepin it real goes terribly wrong.
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Reminds me of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjIvF7NFm_o
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>>91479929
As has christianity, funny how someone can't say they're all shit without the pol faggots reeing their heads off.
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>>91480219
No it really hasn't, people have posted constant evidence that christfags have been backwards as fuck and ultraviolent all the way up until current day too, but they've benefited from constant whitewashing (Actual usage of the phrase stay mad faggot) to be dindu nuffin gud boiz, despite contributing to strife all over the world and running massive campaigns against people that don't follow their flavor of book. Please do look at swathes of africa, the caribbean, south america and similar, I guess the people running reducation camps, violent oppression of minorities of many flavors and those foaming at the mouth machete mobs are just friendly neighbors being misunderstood.
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>>91458678
Fucking kek
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>>91480364

what christian inspired violence happens in south america?
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>>91480433
So you have no response as to why christians get a free pass for hacking people apart with knives, corrective gangrape and massive multimedia campaigns advocating violence or oppression of their peers then.
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>>91457861
>Love is hating others
>Love is blasphemy laws
Thanks Islam!
I hope this guy fucks off and never returns to the spotlight until he learns to behave in western society.
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>>91480510
Not him but they dont get a pass specially with the examples you said.
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>>91480509
None and i can confirm, currently there is no "chrsitian terrorist or gang" we only have problems with communist terrorist and in the north and problems with native american gangs in the south
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>>91480510
Are you talking about the inactive LRA personality cult, or your average Muslim?
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>>91458041
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>>91457816
Are they going to fire the fucking EDITORS that let it slip by them, too?
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>>91458249
And yet it's fine for the SocJus crowd to do exactly that...

Just playing devil's advocate here, if one group of people are allowed to use what is a form of entertainment for children at heart to push their half-witted polemics on complex social issues without fear of editorial reprisal, it's a double-standard to fire this guy for doing the exact same thing.
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>>91458257
>it can't hurt someone physically

Clearly you haven't read recent Guardians of the Galaxy
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>>91480591
>Implying it takes the LRA to make uganda or most of central africa devolve into roving machete gangs

Hell, jamaica does it without any of that shit too. And guess what, muslims are shit too, that's the catch that retarded niggers never seem to get, everyone's shit, there's no defense of anyone here, everyone's dirty laundry deserves to be aired, it only becomes even more worth it when retards try to pretend it's isolated to sandpeople, there should be opposition to brain rotted extremists as a whole.
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>>91458766
>If they were good people, they wouldn't choose to adhere to a terrorist ideology made up by a genocidal child rapist.
There's the problem of being brought up in said ideology, and having all the fellow members of said ideology want to murder you if you leave. The Koran is quite clear about what should happen to apostates.
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>>91480739
Islam is an ideology, not a race.
Fuck off with your >implications.
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>>91480677
>One group will put in a message about abuse of power being shitty or defending the new popular to harass group
>Another group is promoting their brand of religious extremism, with the idea in mind to terrorize out a minority group
>Muh false equivalence tho, truth always in the middle
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>>91480852
What are you sperging out about here, if you're buttmad about the greentext then yes, it doesn't take a big movement to get them hacking apart gays and lesbians or assassinating people that want anything other than theocratic hellholes.
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>>91459496

Yeah, it's a passive aggressive cry of:
>Shit! They found me out!
>I'm going to run away before they come and get me!
>Don't talk about this or else!
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>>91480590
Videla pls
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>>91480631
>implying Marvel still has editors left to fire
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>>91466701
That woman's existence will never. E anything less than hysterical to me.

>After converting to Islam while attending Boston University, Wilson moved to Cairo, where she contributed articles to the Atlantic Monthly, The New York Times Magazine and the National Post.[1]

She converted to Islam at university and lived in Cairo for a few years, and this somehow makes her the voice of and arbiter for Muslims in Western media?
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>>91480883
>Both groups using a pulp entertainment platform to bully people they don't like

Same shit, different day.
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>>91481227
>has minor experience with a culture but claims to represent it and feels they should be the sole voice of it

sounds about right for SJW's
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>>91478963
There's no misunderstanding what she was saying
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>>91480904
The bug difference between islamic countries and catholic countries is for example: on catholic countries LBGT can actually fight for the right and get them like marriage while in islamic countries is illegal to be queer, again i dont know why are you trying to portray christianity as the same as islam
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>>91457816
[UNSOLICITED OPINIONS ON ISRAEL?]
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>>91481624
>again i dont know why are you trying to portray christianity as the same as islam
Because he's a leftist. Attacking Muslims for being hateful bigots confuses and scares him so he's desperately trying to move the conversation on to ground he's more familiar and comfortable. I'm actually amazed he hasn't brought up Holy Terror yet.
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>>91459383
It's not about not trusting jews but not to pick any non-muslim as leader or friend
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>>91481565
So one muslim at marvel slips in messages that Muslims can't be involved with none Muslims and another thinks Islam is above criticism, I'm not gonna say Wilson thinks Charlie deserved it, but I'm certainly thinking it loudly
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>>91458837
Muslims were invading Europe.
Next you'll saythe Reconquista was wrong
Fuck off
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>>91458837
If you follow the Morals of the Bible to a T, you get sharia law. The only thing that separates Muslims and Christians is that Muslims actually bei]lived. Their book while most Christians are just paying lip service to fit in with other motherfuckers that are only paying lip service.
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>>91457816
Syaf did an interview in Indonesian where he blamed his "no mercy" firing on the "Disney Jews" who have Marvel and he dindu nuffin.

>http://m.jpnn.com/news/ardian-syaf-yahudi-disinggung-ya-tidak-ada-ampun
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>>91457816
Wow. Actual balls.
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>>91458678
10/10 would kek again
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>X-Men GOLD
>has a Jew
How is the book itself not cancelled yet?
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Comic book artists would be executed by Islamists if they got their way.

Staff is a fucking moron.
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>>91483165
*in Willow voice* Yes, but stop jumping to conclusions and find out what he REALLY meant by this
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>>91483540
*Syaf
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>>91460392
because, from best I can tell, in Islam peace and love can only exist when there are no christians, jews, or pagans.

the problem with having a singular good path of existence (based on anything, not just with Islam) is that so long as anything else exists as an "alternative path" then their existence prevents all that is good/love/peace from being the sole of existence. And thus ruins the entire world.
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>>91481283
One of them at worst most times wants you to use some doofy ass pronouns, the other is cutting people's heads off for apostasy, false equivalence to a distressing degree.
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>>91482037
Suck my cock you faggot, you're wrong on basically every count. I already said earlier it's because there should be opposition to every group of braindead fucks that wanna use "MUH BOOK, MUH SCRIPTURES, MUH HOLY TEXT" to brutalize people, which shithole muslim countries do and shithole christian countries both do, it's almost like theocracies are shit regardless of who's running the place.
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>>91458107
>referencing a verse about not submitting to Christian or Jewish leaders

so whats the problem with this?
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No one posting this yet? I'm surprised /co/
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>>91460744
>Most people stopped hating jews long ago

this is true (though how much of that hate stopped because people constantly got destroyed with the excuse of muh holocaust, is debatable). Most people do not care about Jews being Jews.

of course, the reason /pol/ has as much of a base as it does is because a lot of Jews do care about being Jews, and there is a disturbing amount of Jews who push things like the idea of "white privilege" while acting as "White" people, but suddenly turn into Jews when fingers start pointing at them about their "white privilege."
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>>91483188
You don't even try to hide your shit anymore pol, go back to your quarantine. Also yes you pretty well do, unless it's different when muh dindu jezuz bois stone people, oppress women and otherwise try to exert power over people. Inb4 desperate defense as to b-b-b-buh muh old testyment ain't the thing anymore!
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>>91483836
This is still the worst stretch people try to make from the image. The only part even obscured is the Y.
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>>91462199

but anon, telling jews to pay taxes will incite them to violence!

Sorry, I really couldn't help myself
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>>91483836
>When jews are offended, there is no mercy
The balls on this guy. Every time someone puts muslims in a negative light they start fucking rioting.
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>>91461954
>>91483165
Does this count as a bingo?
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>>91467805
Arabs some but not a majority

>>91468278
Indonesians can tolerate or hate non-Indonesians

A vocal minority hate China for being slightly more rich in general than they are
Some people hate liberalism, white people etc

>>91473360
Not slamming marvel there, not even a news site
Major news sites are not even bothered with these news

t. chinese indonesian
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>>91483880

>Inb4 desperate defense as to b-b-b-buh muh old testyment ain't the thing anymore!

Well, it isn't.
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Syaf is an asshole and is now showing his true colour as an arrogant prick.
Translation : "Seriously, if any of you claimed to have been rejected (By Marvel, because of my case). Please Post it right now so I can see the quality of your artwork.
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>>91484100
and we have a bingo
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Wait, what happened in Indonesia?
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>>91486018

Some christian guy got elected and muslims got mad.
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>>91486018

A Christian mayor got elected. A few assholes got mad, because they always do, and they started quoting Quran verses saying not to allow Christians or Jews to rule over you, because there's always something. Said mayor said that's a lousy reason, and in doing so may have tripped over a law prohibiting Indonesia's official religions from shittalking each other. So, now there's a whole hubbub about it.

It's politics. It's always politics.
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>>91486216
>>91486306
And by mad, it means rioting in the streets, burning police vehicles, Something in the Baltimore/furgeson range. That's the 212 reference. The next year they did it again on the same day.
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>>91486306
Governor, not mayor. Higher position.

>>91486405
Well, it was nowhere as bad as Baltimore. The actual protest was peaceful, but fucked up traffic. Also full of people from outside Jakarta, meaning they were unaffected by the governor and just wanted to start some shit or get paid by the governor's political enemies.

After the actual protest ended though, some of the protestors went berserk and tried to break into the governor's house.

t. person living in this shithole
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This guy was given a golden ticket to work for DC and Marvel just because he is a poor man's Jim Lee while there are more talented artist out there struggling to break into comics and this fool throws away over nonsense, I have no sympathy for this guys stupidity and ignorance.
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>>91462882
>was that they failed and had no effect on the world
I wouldn't call taking and holding Jerusalem and massive territories for almost 200 years a failure. later crusades may have been total shit shows, but at least the first was widely a success. By you logic if Britan were to annex the U.S. the war of independence would have been a failure looking back a 100 years later.
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>>91482602
Yes she was equating it with Charlie Hebdo. I too condemn her sentiment
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>>91480433
Though with a ratio of 10.479 deaths per attack, Christians are by far the most efficient with no one else even getting above five. Wew lads, not easy being the best.
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>>91483836
I guess he didn't plan on getting picked up by DC

I'm pretty sure he can still get a job at Bioware though
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>>91458766
Yeah it's not like most religious text are filled with what we'd consider rape an genocide but for some reason it only matters when were talking about Muslims. I guess Jews, and Christians get a free pass for worshipping the same rape and genocide loving death God is Muslims. The pedophile thing is the worst point you guys bring up. The amount of historical figures form around the world that would be considered child molesters now would probably blow your mind. No one gave a shit about age of consent until like the 1940s.
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>>91457861
he also put the word jew next to kitty price in the most creepy way possible
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>>91457816
And he digs himself even deeper after being fired. Looks like the only cure for stupidity is death.
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>>91483880
According to standard Christian theology the Old Covenant was fulfilled by Jesus and is no longer necessary, and much of it was only ever meant fir the Jews to follow anyway. This should be common knowledge to anyone with even a cursory understanding of the religion but we still constantly get this false moral equivalency where people say Christianity and Islam are just as bad because both holy books have shocking content.
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>>91489245
*for
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I will miss Ardian "Threw the Jew" Syaf
Ardian "Ride the bike over kike" Syaf
Ardian "Go back to oven" Syaf
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>>91484681
>chinese indonesian
save?
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>>91483775
Guess you didn't watch any of the post election campus demonstration live streams with students unironically threatening to send undesirables to gulags when they established communism and Antifa beating and pepperspraying innocent bystanders then...

Ideological extremism in any spectrum is a bad thing. In an ideal world both this man and Kate Leth would be shot from a giant cannon into the sun.
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>>91458678
Once
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>>91459751
>The sad thing is if this had just been about Christians then he wouldn't have been fired, but there's not a SJW alive that can talk shit about Jews and get away with it.

You must be rusing. SJWs are more rabidly anti-semitic than the alt-right. Look at how violently they support BDS and Muslim terrorism, while not caring about any other aspect of foreign policy.
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>>91457861

Literally "what would a terrorist say as he sets off the bomb".txt

"I'm doing this for LOVE and for Allah!"
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>>91458678

*angry laughter*
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>>91460104

HA

Seriously who does this guy think he is
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>>91460223

A guy was fired for sneaking in hateful Islamic imagery and for some reason your first impulse is to throw shade on Christians. How can you accuse others of negativity when you're the one cherry picking history to insult the offended parties here?
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why is this thread still going? It's not like there's any new fucking developments and there's nothing to argue about. Absolutely no one supports this faggot and he got what he deserved.

Anyone trying to """""argue""""" about this shit is obviously a /pol/ falseflagging faggot. So why respond?

Let it die.
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>>91467002

You've got a chip on your shoulder
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>that_black_alien_from_GotG_who_says_WHO?.webm

Really wish I had that webm on hand
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>>91492328

It's useful to remind people about what is really in the hearts of most "moderate" Muslims.
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>>91492603
back to your shithole plz
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>>91492659
Oh please.

>http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2013/04/gsi2-overview-1.png

>http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2013/04/gsi2-chp1-8.png

>http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2013/04/gsi2-chp1-9.png

They are better off finding out now.
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>>91484608
Yep

>>91488251
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>>91476676
>He could become a religious artist. Although in case of Islam that means drawing fancy decorations on pamphlets and thats pretty much it.

Indonesia's neighbour Malaysia does have a long tradition of religious comics based on arguments that:
1. drawings are used for educational purposes and not worshipped upon (coughcoughRussianGadgetismcoughcough)

2. the law related to making images of living things was at a time and setting when idol / statue making was still prevalent (at least if my memory serves me right) and it's somehow loosened as picturing something has become more secularised.

Don't take it wholely from me though, I ain't some scholar.
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>>91494308
OK, the 1990s isn't really that long...I may have gone hyperbole on that, and it's regrettable.

It's still established and legitimate though. Even religious magazines geared to conservative families here have little comic corners in them.
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>>91458107

Y'know, that does sound just a little bit 'problematic'.
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>>91481227
Someone please explain to me why any women would ever willingly convert to a religion that actively hates women.

inb4
>love/marriage
If it was about love, shouldn't HE be the one leaving the religion instead of her joining it?
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>>91495661

It is literally not only illegal in islamic nations for the Muslim spouse to be the one who converts, in some it actually carries the death penalty.
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>>91460223
We live in overly-political times. EVERYWHERE has never been as filled with overly-political faggots like now.

Why would you assume /co/ to be an exception?
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>>91495661
Pretty much every religion despise women. Islam is definitely the worst from the Abrahamic religions but every major religion agree women suck and they only exist to serve men. I've never got why women are so much into religion
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>>91497434
Religions don't despise women...well, except Islam.

The reasons why religion is seemingly so one-sided against women is because yes, the rules were written by men, but mostly in an attempt to regulate who fucks their wives. Humans were just starting to stop being nomads, farm land, and hold onto property. As a result, they wanted to pass along said property to their offspring, and not the offspring of someone their wife cheated on. That's why the penalties for adultery for women are so much more stricter than the punishments against men. Because a guy could fuck as many women as he wants since he's the one that owns the property and will pass it on to his kids anyway. Now if you go and fuck another man's wife, that's a different story. Basically, there's an outdated logic to why they did things the way they did and it wasn't just because they hate women.

Islam however seems to really hate women for no real reason other than they can.
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>>91497573
That sound like despising women. Also there's the New Testament quotes of wives being sumisives to their husbands still used on churchs
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>>91497623
Not really. It's kind of like the rules about being "kosher." Is it because people "despise" pigs and seafood and bats, or is it because they didn't know how to properly cook and prepare them? If a pig is eating shit outside of the city (where they dumped shit, because there was no plumbing) and you ate it, and got sick, how would you know about bacteria or swine flu or whatever gross-ass disease it got out there? You'd just call it an act of God and the animal must be cursed. Or rabbits, who you could get protein poisoning from if you eat too much of it. Guy at a ton of rabbits and starved to death. Must be another animal God doesn't want us to eat.

I'm not saying the rules are fair to women, because yeah the punishments for the same crime are different, etc. But it doesn't mean there's maliciousness behind it.
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>>91486831
People keep saying he's a poor mans Jim Lee but his art bears zero resemblance. His art is actually very generic, I've seen about a million Indonesian artist on deviantart that draw the same if not better than him. Glad he's he sucked.
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>>91497623
>Lists historical and social reasoning for the laws
>"That sounds like despising women"

Come on now.

>Also there's the New Testament quotes of wives being sumisives to their husbands still used on churchs

That's just typical familial hierarchy politics. It's not like it outright turns the spouse into property.
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>all these liberal losers who don't know how to react to this
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JUST
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>>91457861
What a cunt
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>>91458107
>not submitting to Christian or Jewish leaders
>worked for Disney
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What I want to know is why are people trying to sell Gold #1 for $20+ on eBay when it's still sitting on shelves? Like, are they expecting Marvel to pull and re-do the issue or something?
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>>91502348
Leaders in a political sense.
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>>91502398
Speculators. Bleeding Cool reporting on copies selling for $50. People still fall for the speculation garbage and rush out to buy stuff thinking it will be worth thousands of dollars "someday".

Marvel is reprinting #1. My store did sell out. Marvel had Diamond not allow reorders on #1 as well, they likely did have overstock.
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>>91458678
not Nice anon
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>>91502398
I live in a big city and have and go to a BIG comic book store and Gold's are gone speculators even grabbed up the all ugly variants.

it sucks too now the Campbell cover is out of my comfort zone
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>>91479863
The references were really specific to Indonesian politics so probably.
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>>91502444
All of my stores still have a good handful of first prints. Then again, I live in Atlanta so I don't know how big our comic scene is out here. I did scan this thread & read that article from Bleeding. Made me feel depressed.
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>>91502444
Muslims might consider it a collector's item.
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>>91502530
Really? Damn. I didn't even know Campbell had some touch on the variants. Pretty nice.
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>>91457861
>love and peace
>can't have jews as allies
okay
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>>91502761
I'll post them for ya. there's 6, 3 for Gold 3 for blue sold in a set on his website, which people are flipping on Ebay for big bucks
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>>91502853
this one is a virgin cover no text or logos
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>>91502865
here's the blues
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>>91502882
Legs!
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>>91502853
>>91502865
I dig the textless cover, heavy. The only variant I have seen in person are those basic X two sided covers. Makes me wonder how issue #2 & #3 are going to shape up.
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>>91502914
and I know no one has noticed this because modern Jean's costume is an abomination, and badass floating Xavier head but the modern X-Boys are drawn with considerable less defined muscles.

just an awesome touch to tone down the beefcake and cheesecake in the modern versions.
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>>91496402
But what about when the converting happens in a non muslim country?
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>>91503043
you obviously shut the fuck up and go to church like everything is cool.
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Exterminate all muslim vermin.
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>>91503145
Hush /pol/, adults are talking.
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>>91503173
>/pol/
>implying it's not tumblr falseflagging to get /pol/ deleted
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>>91503319
>implying it's not a bait.
>on Indonesian political email service
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>>91458698
I WANT TO KISS KAMALA!
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>>91494308
>2. the law related to making images of living things was at a time and setting when idol / statue making was still prevalent (at least if my memory serves me right) and it's somehow loosened as picturing something has become more secularised.

The correct answer is "Right now, no crazy who' really is against the visual arts is recieving funding from the Saudis" because really, that's all that stands between the population at large and mobs breaking into houses to grab any image they can find.
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>>91489765
Don't know what you're talking about m8
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>But Marvel is owned by Disney. When Jews are offended, there is no mercy

what a nice guy
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>>91504900
And when Muslims are offended?
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>>91504932
Death to everyone that isn't a muslim
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>>91457816
>tfw even the local newspaper that doesn't literally publish outside small nordic city made a 300+ word news article about this spectacle

This is really getting out of hand
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Fuck Islam.
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>>91480677
You're implying that I'm saying I don't hate the obsessive shove for SJW ideals in mainstream comics. That doesn't make this guy any less of a shithead.

Also, while that stuff is propagandic, this guy pretty much sbiliminalled hatespeech into his art.
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