They're actually going to do it the absolute madmen

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How do we kill Disney?

>>91438588
>>November 3
>Thor: Ragnarok
Don't plan on seeing.
>>November 17
>Justice League
Plan on seeing.
>>November 22
>Coco
????
>>December 15
>Star Wars: The Last Jedi
Depends how much Rian was able to wipe away JJ's shitscum. Will see if I hear that Lucas liked it.

>It's another Mouseketeer console war thread.
Okay.

So, now we have Summer AND Winter movie seasons?

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What gives? All of those movies look boring and uninteresting

I'm looking foward to see War of The Planet of The Dongs rather than anything in that list

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>>91438679
FUCK YOU, IT'S FOREVER!

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>>91438618
you don't they'll kill you first

>>91438679
summer is year long now

>>91438745
Am I the only one who liked Rise better than Dawn?
I actually like Franco.

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>>91438748
>red cuck media

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>>91438588
>yfw when Disney is going to give Justice league the battle born treatment.

Those monsters.

>>91438781
>look up Battleborn
>it's a video game
remove /v/

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>>91438762
...I mean, Rise was OK, why you liked it over Dawn that I do not seem to understand

>>91438781
Disney wants complete and total control

and not just of movies Iger might be running for president in 2020

>>91438806
if we didn't have /v/ how would we know which side was winning and which was complete irredeemable garbage?

>>91438618
Why contain it?

>>91438831
>spoiler
Christ on a stick.
Well, i'm voting for Trump again.

>>91438806
If you want context, Battleborn was Gearbox's shit stain of an excuse of a FPS.

To add insult to injury, Blizzard put out an Open beta for Overwatch, the same day Battleborn launch. Effectively killing any hype Battleborn would have generated.

>>91438855
Ok cuckservitive enjoy paying even more for that wall with no healthcare in the middle of ww3

>>91438885
I don't care /v/.

>>91438930
You cared enough to reply.

>>91438971
No I didn't.

>>91439005
its okay buddy.

>>91438588
>Coco

This won't do much. It's not going to do as good as, say, Finding Dory.

>>91439034
>This won't do much.
That's what people said about Inside Out

>>91439031
No, it's not.

>>91438637
hey, nom.

Lucas said he liked it.

>>91438745
>>I'm looking foward to see War of The Planet of The Dongs
I think that's in the summer so that's not really relevant

>>91438679
and Spring. (Logan, Kong, Beauty and the Beast, Jungle Book, Zootopia, BvS).

>>91438679
It started with The Hobbit. Now every December there's going to be a huge release

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Marvel is the pre-inauguration Trump of cinema.

>>91439122
wat

>>91439319
But will Marvel after Trump be like post-inauguration Trump?

They retconned the first two infinity stones into existence. So they probably weren't originally planning on doing the Infinity Wars soon. What big plans if any do they actually have for after Thanos if they kill him off in Infinity Wars?

>>91438618
You don't

>>91438618
Make a product that appeals to more people than holier than thou neckbeards that communicate solely through dank memes.

>>91438753
Does he realize how evil that picture looks?

>>91439666
>. So they probably weren't originally planning on doing the Infinity Wars soon
Didn't they announce Infinity War back when Civil War was first announced? I'm pretty sure they knew

>>91439777
Of course he does, Bob is actually Snoke.

>>91440070
>Snoke
Does anybody even give a single shit about that plotline?

>>91440144
People who make clickbait for a living.

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>>91440144
probably not

>>91439734
>make movies for illiterate chinese

not sure which is worse

>>91440284
>not liking the plot and dialogue being baby level
How else am I going to text my side chick and fuck my GF while watching the movie?

>>91438618
You don't. You either fail to compete against them, or you eventually get absorbed by them. It's only a matter of time before all fiction in existence becomes Disney's property, including all the public domain stuff. And then they'll start working on owning every man, woman, and child, both living and dead, on this planet.

>>91440313
if only they could mix the two extremes

>>91440982
apple and amazon are already further ahead on doing that though

>>91438618
Stop watching this shit

>>91441101
Wel, really, when it comes to animated movies, do you see anybody else doing them better right now?

People don't want to be Disney anymore. They want to be Illumination's Minions

>end it now

Remember when marvel and DC had a movie scheduled for the same date and DC moved theirs?

>>91439073
And secret life of pets

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>>91441101
how's that stop everyone else?

>>91441180
>>91441245
literally a shill

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>>91441255
just give in join the winning side you can't beat them

>>91438588
>fun, heavily '80s-themed space opera that looks like GoTG 1.5 starring a norse god
>another grim, rain-soaked spectacle of misery and weariness

Snyder had it coming.

>>91441343

Disney cancelled Star Wars Celebration and moved up the release date of the Han Solo movie to summer probably because they are worried about what the reception to The Last Jedi will be. So there's that.

>>91441459
>>another grim, rain-soaked spectacle of misery and weariness
This sounds appealing to me.

>>91441478
unfortunately (or not), you're in the minority of the movie-going audience.

>>91439777
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n69A1HHlyG0

>>91438588
>Let's All Laugh at an Industry That Never Learns Anything Tee Hee Hee.webm

Market saturation? What's tgat?

>>91440041
They wouldn't have made the Inifinity Stones too small to actually fit into their spots on Thanos' Inifinity Gauntlet if they had planned to do Infinity Wars soon after The First Avenger.

>>91441572
>Market saturation? What's tgat?
Something that doesn't really exist.

It's not saturation it's overall decrease in quality or a changing of the times that makes moviegoers stop seeing things. I'm assuming you're going to use "but Westerns" to which I might add that falls into the latter category. And comic book movies are ultimately action films which are never ever going away

>>91438588
How strong is the hype for coco? otherwise, JL has like 4 free weeks. If Disney wanted ultimate rape they'd move Episode 8 one week before.

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>>91441572

>>91441478
Go watch BvS

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>>91442386
That's why it sounds appealing to me. I liked BvS.

>>91439294
It started with Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter actually.

>>91442455
I like her Nike's.

>>91442574
:( autism takes the fun out of everything.

>>91442676
You should probably leave 4chan forever then.

>>91440144
>does anybody give a shit about the major villain of the highest grossing movie since Avatar?
Don't be so retarded.

>>91442838
I mean, there's nothing interesting about him. He's just the Emperor 2.0 in JJ's OT redux.

>>91441477
>Rogue One
>story about literally who
>makes a BILLION dollars
Yeah, I'm sure that Disney's real worried about whether or not the first Luke Skywalker movie since 1983 is going to do well.

The whole movie could just be Luke lighting up a lightsaber and having a vision about his father, roll credits five minutes later. And it would make a billion.

>>91442861
>there's nothing interesting about him
Oh cool, you saw the movie? What happens?

>>91442949
????
Mate i'm just saying what i've observed. Others seem to have similar opinions too.
>>91440186
>>91440188

>>91442905
RO had Darth Vader and Tarkin in it.

>>91442972
You said there's nothing interesting about him ... he hasn't even really been a character yet. People are going to be more than excited to see him in Episode VIII and IX.

Though I'll be honest, I don't think it's gonna be some megatwist reveal. No Plagueis, no Skywalker, no Bane, no whatever the latest theory is.

>>91442905
He said they're worried about the reception, not the box office.

>>91439073
>>91439073
>Inside Out came out during a downer summer
>Finding Dory has its fucking name
>Coco launching against Thor, JL, with a holiday season lined with Star Wars

Thanksgiving Weekend will be the only way this movie even turns head away. People who loved Book of Life will ignore it killing most of the hardcore animation fan base, there's only the family dollar that's split between the two superhero fares.

Unrelated, if Thor beats out Justice League will that officially axe all the movies coming out? I'm already nervous that WW will get slaughters by GotG2, but getting beat at every base by Disney, especially the flagship movie getting beaten by fucking Thor of all films, would be really god damn embarrassing.

>>91443092
And TLJ has Luke, Leia, R2, C3P0, plus all the new characters in it. If you think Tarkin is as big a draw as any of them, you're crazy. Though I'll admit that Darth Vader ending probably accounts for like 50% of RO's profits.

>>91443108
That's exactly it.
Like the ease of Rey's powerups and the flaccid trench run copy, Snoke is just The Emperor knock-off for the OT 2.0.

First Order v. Resistance=Empire v. Rebellion
Old Ben=Old Luke
Luke=Rey
Sheev=Snoke
Kylo=Vader

etc

>>91443131
At the end of the day, they don't give a shit about the reviews. If it prints money (spoiler alert: it will) they'll be happy.

They cancelled Celebration because there was no point in doing it every year. It used to be every 2-3 years. I can't say exactly why Han Solo was moved, but so was Rogue One.

>>91438588
Thor 1 and 2 were shit, ill never watch another thor movie in my life, i have no clue what the fuck coco is, and i dont give a shit about star wars either.

Now that i think about it, i think god of thunder is the only thor comic i have ever bother to read, and even that was disappointing.

>>91443159
>if Thor beats out Justice League will that officially axe all the movies coming out?

Why do you guys think they're in a direct competition with each other to get the biggest box office? They only care about if the movie makes a profit, not if it beats another company's movie. Company wars only exist with autistic manchildren on the internet.

>>91443291
this

>>91443190
Republic v Seperatists
Qui Gon
Anakin
Still Sheev
Maul, then Dooku

Anon... this is how Star Wars works.

You could also do it for a ton of other movies.

>>91443300
nope
nice try tho

>>91443316
>nope
good rebuttal

>>91443345
thanks

>>91443291
Prestige matters a whole lot more to the industry than making a profit. If a franchise flagship preforms worse than another franchise's weaker hitter that's a god damn black eye the company could conceivably never recover from.

>>91443372
damn...

>>91443291
truth

that bein said, Thor will beat Justice League and internet will explode. its going to be insufferable around here.

>>91443223
>At the end of the day, they don't give a shit about the reviews. If it prints money (spoiler alert: it will) they'll be happy.
So does WB, but that doesn't stop the internet from melting down when their movies get bad reviews and thinking they should scrap everything. Fact is, BvS and Suicide Squad made a lot of money which is all WB really cares about and gives them enough reason to keep making these movies.

>>91443397
>Thor will beat Justice League
I don't really like the DCEU but I disagree.

>>91438618
You can't.

Their CEO is might be running for president in 2020

>>91443372

You're a fucking idiot. They're a business and their main goal is to make money. If they want prestige, they make Oscar bait movies which they've been doing for 100 years. This is the company that survived the atrocity that was Batman and Robin and came back with Nolan's trilogy. The only people who jizz themselves over box office number competitions are fucking autists.

>>91443159
> People who loved Book of Life will ignore it killing most of the hardcore animation fan base
That's not very many people. And almost anyone who considers them part of the "hardcore animation fan base" will still go see this, as it's one of the years biggest animated films.

> there's only the family dollar that's split between the two superhero fares
The family dollar is a SHIT TON of money. Same reason Marvel and DC don't court the hardcore comic book fans who want nothing but faithful adaptations of the books.

JL and Thor aren't as kid friendly as Spider-man, and being on Thanksgiving week will be huge for Coco.

>>91443501
Thor has bright colors for the kiddos tho.

>>91443399
>and thinking they should scrap everything
That's because WB doesn't know how to do anything, and they refuse to commit. Marvel didn't back out of things just because the two Thor movies didn't blow away reviewers.

Fuck disney

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>/co/
>Comics and cartoons they said

>>91443536
????
Thor 3 looks different than Thor 1 and 2.
How is that "committing"?

>>91443536
But Ragnarok is literally doing everything different because people hated the first two Thor movies. No Portman, very little Earth, more Thor being a badass, helmet is back, Hulk is in it. It actually feels like a Thor movie for once.

>>91443572
By making another one and not giving up. How is that hard to understand? The only thing they've backed out of is Inhumans, and that was always the property they were least committed to.

I didn't say they doubled down on what went wrong.

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>>91438588
>As an anon said

That anon was me. OP is copy / pasting my post :3

>>91438588
Snyder is seriously one of the worst directors of our time, why do people defend him just for working on DC?

>>91443547
I see an animated feature and two movies based on comics in the OP. There's Star Wars, true, but that's the only outlier.

>>91443622
>By making another one and not giving up.
But that's what DC is doing????

>>91443610
this

>>91443627
>Snyder is seriously one of the worst directors of our time
hell no
I hate this meme.

>>91443610
I know. See >>91443622

I'm not going to pretend I care about any of those but
>end Snyder
I'm down with that.

>>91443397
>>91443417
Everything depends on Guardians of the Galaxy 2. If it doesn't live up to the hype it could tank performance of other light hitters.

>>91443479
You think WB is proud of B&R? You think their CEO was shaking hands with shareholders because of B&R? You fucking say 'atrocity' on one hand, then on the other defend yourself with, 'It made money!' B&R made back it's money, and killed with the merch, loads of kids had the toys, fuck I still have a few B&R toys in my attic. You can't be saying both realities are true, either prestige and reputation doesn't matter or it does.

'muh Oscar bait,' Oscar bait doesn't make prestige for studios, it makes prestige for actors and directors.

>>91443501
CoCo will perform as well as The Good Dinosaur, believe it or not the film is going into almost the same exact situation that Dinosaur went into, and possibly will be received in reviews just as well.

>>91443653
Not a meme though, it's true

>>91443660
You have bad taste.

>>91443678
nah

>>91443622
WB isn't doubling down either, they're making JL a quipfest because that's what people want.

>>91443678
Watch more movies then you pleb. Snyder is far from a bad director, he's just not a good fit for superheroes.

>>91443685
I don't see how disliking bad things means I have bad taste.

>>91443722
I'm looking forward to his Fountainhead adaption he wants to do.

>>91443653
Fucker only has one good movie: 300 and only because it's the most straightforward and simple plot ever, and what little plot he added was cancer af.

He should fuck off to directing perfume commercials.

>>91443738
>disliking bad things
This is your problem.
Your judgment is poor.

>>91443705
>quipfest
The movie looks like it has the production value of that Power Rangers movie that just came out.

>>91443722
Synder is one note, all he can do is make things dark and even then he's like a dog with a red rocket rubbing a couch cushion, it doesn't mesh.

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>>91443765
>cancer af.
Come the fuck on.
Is this a troll or do we have facebook teens here now?

>>91443781
>The movie looks like it has the production value of that Power Rangers movie that just came out.
So high?

>>91443766
I don't see how disliking bad things means I have poor judgement.

>>91443722
>far from a bad director

Have you even seen suckerpunch? That shit sucks

>>91443671
>You can't be saying both realities are true, either prestige and reputation doesn't matter or it does.
I didn't say that. I gave an example where 'prestige' didn't mean shit. They made a bad movie that's been mocked ever since in Batman and Robin and it had zero affect on their company. Justice League hypothetically making less money than Thor will have zero affect on their company. They might care for a week, then they'll go on to making more capeshit.

>'muh Oscar bait,' Oscar bait doesn't make prestige for studios, it makes prestige for actors and directors.
Bullshit, studios like MGM and TWC made their names off of producing Oscar caliber movies all the time.

>>91443802
I know. And it's sad.

>>91443653
While I don't think he's the worst, I do think he's probably the most overhyped. I don't think he's earned the sort of status that gets a bunch of people to ride his dick waiting for his next masterful work

Nigga is treated like some kind of genius director by his fans when he should be in Michael Bay tier.

>>91443815
That's because he wrote it to and had way too much control. He's a shitty writer.

>>91443781
>The movie looks like it has the production value of that Power Rangers movie that just came out.
Wouldn't that mean it's really good then?

I mean that movie is complete shit but it clearly used it's budget

>>91443861
I don't see how disliking bad things is sad.

>>91443815
Have you?
The issue is the script.
It's well directed.

>>91443865
He's better than Bay if only in the sense that Bay has even less restraint. Also Bay wouldn't have made a movie like Watchmen, with it's hour+ of just people talking.

>>91443781
>Synder is one note
All fucking directors are one note, it's called having a signature style.

>>91443907
????
I know. That's the whole issue. Your judgment is poor.
Let's not do this for the next 4 hours. I will, but i'd rather not.

>>91443705
>not doubling down
BvS made all the same mistakes that Man of Steel did, and it's not looking like JL will be any different, aside from maybe some more humor.

But more importantly, they clearly have no plan. They've cancelled/delayed/adjusted/etc several films already. Because they wait for reactions before making a plan.

>>91443910
I mean Bay tier in the sense that "yeah, nobody pretends he's a master but I'll go see his movie anyway cause I want to waste time" sort of thing. Except actually pretentious

>>91443865
He's treated like some kind of genius director by other directors too though. The only people who seem to have a problem with him are capeshit fans.

>>91443941
>He's treated like some kind of genius director by other directors too though.
Name 3

And these better be actual directors who people know

>>91443932
I don't see how disliking bad things means I have poor judgement.

>>91443925
There's a difference between a signature style and being one note.

That said, being one note doesn't necessarily mean bad inherently. Wes Anderson, for instance, pretty much has his one schtick, but he's really good at it. And -- if that's your thing -- it works really well.

I just don't think that Snyder's one note skills translate into particularly good films, because "great action" doesn't make a whole movie (in most cases).

>>91441245
>BatB remake is going to make a billion dollars
Can someone actually explain this one to me? Who did that appeal to?

>>91443935
>BvS made all the same mistakes that Man of Steel did,
More like kept the course.
BvS doubled down on the most interesting aspects of MoS. i.e. humanity's reaction to a sovereign super power.

>>91443965
James Cameron said he invented a new and interesting visual style. That's all off the top of my head, but i'm not that guy.

>>91443994
apparently everyone

>>91443980
see
>>91443932

>>91443989
>Wes Anderson
>le centered shots man
He's alright.

>>91443965
James Cameron
Scott Derrickson
Chris Nolan

>>91443801
>>91443906
Very well done generic dark shlock, if that's your thing enjoy.

>>91443828
Hey genius, B&R made money but made WB a laughing stock, Disney had some shit movies, but they never had shit movies that cost them directors. I will admit that making Oscar bait in a way does build prestige, directors choose studios as much as studios choose them, and WB has issues securing any legitimate directors in between meddling with productions, booting directors off wholesale, and pissing over creative choices, all to make generic shit preforming films. If Harry Potter didn't happen we wouldn't have WB anymore desu.

>>91443925
There's having a style then there's having the same exact style over and over and over and over and over. That's one note. Even Michael Bay has more variety than Synder.

This style argument is legitimately retarded anyway. Style is supposed to shift over films. Nicolas Winding Refn's films have a very distinct style, but they look different film to film, color pallets are swapped, the set design shifts, the character's dress differently. While he's famous for neon colors and the slow pacing, his films look different film to film.

Every single Synder lead looks exactly the same, has the same exact color palate, against the same exact dark and brooding backgrounds. And that's why WB producers chose him to direct, they wanted a stylistically different film from Disney's bright and colored films, and for the most part it's working.

>>91444021
see >>91443980

>>91444128
>Even Michael Bay has more variety than Synder.
nope
My "you don't know what you're talking about meter" is through the roof.

>>91444137
see
>>91443932

>>91438618
Give Snyder your energy! Send him 52's and repeating digits until he has enough power to wipe them out!

>>91444128
>but they never had shit movies that cost them directors
John Favreau left Marvel/Disney because of Iron Man 2.

>>91444128
>if that's your thing enjoy.
No, I think JL looks like shit. I just also think calling it like "That Power Rangers movie" would mean it has some kind of production merit to it

>>91444128
>>91444203
Well, I was the other guy and I think JL looks great.

>>91444162
see >>91444137

>>91444192
Iron Man 3, he was still a producer through all three films, and I think he left because RDJ didn't want to make anymore Iron Man films. Also he left to make Chef with his own production company from that sweet sweet Iron Man money.

>>91444249
see
>>91443932

>>91444386
see >>91444249

>>91444392
see
>>91444386

>>91438588
>Disney is trying to end Snyder here and now.
As a DCfag that hates the DCEU I honestly can't fucking wait.

>DCEUfags were talking about how JL was easily going to do 1 billion +
>already walking those back
>saying it's a huge success if it makes 800 mil
>tfw Suicide Squad makes more money than Justice League without China
It's going to be beautiful.

>>91444414
Y'know it's not fun for me if you don't cry about how Snyder is a misunderstood genius and how deep Man of Steel is.

>>91444448
Why is it about money though?

>>91444150
The visual differences between The Rock, Pain & Gain, Bad Boys, and Transformers while retaining Bay's signature style is far more diverse than 300, Sucker Punch, BVS, and Watchmen

>>91444128
>B&R made money but made WB a laughing stock
No, it made Batman a laughing stock. It affected WB hardly at all. Less than a decade later they turned out The Dark Knight which is considered the best comic book movie ever made with one of the most iconic performances seen in film.

>If Harry Potter didn't happen we wouldn't have WB anymore desu.
You're forgetting Lord of the Rings, The Matrix and all of Chris Nolan's movies.

>There's having a style then there's having the same exact style over and over and over and over and over. That's one note. Even Michael Bay has more variety than Synder.
The irony being Michael Bay is so lazy he literally reuses footage from his previous movies because he's creatively inept. None of Snyder's movies look visually the same, BvS sure didn't look like MoS which doesn't look like JL or Watchmen and 300 had a very unique style. He just has a religious fetish and likes darker stories.

>>91444461
I also have better things to do than redirect posts all night so can we just agree to disagree?

>>91444466
>Why is it about money though?
Are you seriously asking why WB (a business) would think making money is important?

Oh it's also going to do terribly critically as well. Lucky if it gets 35% on RT.

>>91444361
No it was Iron Man 2. He was outspokenly pissed off at the meddling from Disney and refused to make another one for them. It wasn't until they offered him the Jungle Book that he came back to Marvel also and most of that is because he's good friends with RDJ.

>>91444467
But those (Snyder's films) are all fantasy movies.

Look at his Dawn of the Dead or Ga'Hoole for how he works in other genres.

>>91444504
I'm asking YOU why it's about money for YOU.


>Oh it's also going to do terribly critically as well. Lucky if it gets 35% on RT.
You're obnoxious mate.

A future of only Disney flicks. Just imagine. No actual creativity. Just taking well established IPs and cramming them into a well established formula then raking in the dough.

I look forward to the MCU x Star Wars x Pixar crossover where Doctor Strange, Vader, and Buzz Lightyear have a dance off battle to a Beyonce song.

It'll be fucking epic.

*sips koolaid*

>>91444467
>>91444517
Forgot to add, Ga'Hoole is fantasy, but an animated one, and for kids.

>>91444484
>I also have better things to do than redirect posts all night
No you don't. And I'd be happy to prove you wrong by continuing to reply to you but you're just so god damned boring. Give me something funny. Like, I dunno, something about how deep the conflict between Batman and Superman was on an intellectual level.

>justice league will end up making $800m+
>M/co/U will consider it a flop
oh boy

>>91444570
What the fuck man?
I thought you were trying to disengage.
I'm bored too!

WHEN THE FUCK IS WARCRAFT 2

>>91444538
>I'm asking YOU why it's about money for YOU.
Because I hate the DCEU and Snyder and can't wait for them to fail so it can be rebooted and hopefully done right this time and if another movie made by Snyder bombs critically and under performs financially then it's probably done.

Plus it'll be fun to see the DCEUfags initially lose their but then desperately try and defend it for months to come.

>You're obnoxious mate.
>thinking a Snyder DC movie will be poorly received based on past performance and everything we've seen of JL so far makes me obnoxious
wew mate.

>>91444448
It's already begun
>>91444613
Delicious.

>>91444752
Well damn. You're mind's made up.
I'll just keep enjoy Snyder's movies.You do you , I guess.

>>91444480
>LotR and The Matrix
Wow, two franchises WB fucking murdered due to their combined negligence and meddling. Really good examples there champ.

>Nolan
He made them a billion, he basically can do whatever he wants now on their dime.

>Likes darker stories
That doesn't mean make a zero emotion bland pointlessly moody fucking movie. Tom Ford likes darker stories yet his two films look dramatically different from each other, and yes, I bet you could edit a cohesive trailer from the footage of Sucker Punch, Watchman, and his Supe films because they all look exactly the same. The only difference is MoS is a tiny bit brighter with more yellows and reds because it takes place mostly in the country. But even then you got shit like the Tornado scene, which is nothing but the same exact color pallet he's been using for a decade now

>>91444517
Ga'Hoole is literally the only Synder film I enjoy, and I almost cannot recognize it as a Synder film. It will go down as probably the greatest achievement of his career. It would be a god send if he made a film with as much vibrancy as Dawn of the Dead, but that movie is shit except for the opening scene which is utter perfection.

>>91444785
>I'll just keep enjoy Snyder's movies
Not for much longer you won't friendo.

>>91438588
I don't understand this meme. If anything whatever the fuck coco is, it's probably going to be the one that gets hurt the most. JL will trim Thors third week to non-existent.

Star Wars, if it was in either of those other two slots, would be the JL killer. But a month after JL? Idk I don't think that would factor in as much. JL will benefit from a thanksgiving/black friday boost.

>>91444780
You have autism.

>>91444801
>Wow, two franchises WB fucking murdered due to their combined negligence and meddling.
wut

How did they murder either of those franchises? They weren't supposed to go beyond trilogies. And lack of meddling is why the Hobbit movies were so shit, they let Peter Jackson go full George Lucas on them.

>I bet you could edit a cohesive trailer from the footage of Sucker Punch, Watchman, and his Supe films because they all look exactly the same.

I bet you could do that with any number of director's with a unique style.

>>91444810
?
He'll be making movies for a long time. The industry doesn't hate him like you do.

>>91444929
The box office and critics say otherwise.

>>91444830
Everything is hinged on the round 1 scuffle between GotG and WW, whoever wins critically could usher in an easy victory for the November bout.

>>91444910
No, Hobbit films were shit because of meddling, the original trilogy was so great because New Line basically let Weta do whatever they wanted, gave them a huge budget, and destroyed their own studio making the three films. WB kept a tight lease on Jackson.

Nigga I fucking dare you to try it with actual artists of the craft. There are a handful of directors that have similar movies, but Synder is a director whose made his career out of delivering the same exact movie over and over again.

>>91444963
>The box office
no
>>91444963
>and critics say otherwise.
Yeah, but money is what counts.

>>91444810
Has Disney invented a mind control ray?

>>91445010
>but Synder is a director whose made his career out of delivering the same exact movie over and over again.
That's just completely false. In what fucking way are 300 and BvS similar? Or Watchmen and Man of Steel? They don't even look visually the same.

>Everything is hinged on the round 1 scuffle between GotG and WW, whoever wins critically could usher in an easy victory for the November bout.

Jesus fuck you're pathetic. There's no bout. Both companies want each other's movies to do well. Competition is a good thing.

>>91445054
Hey idiot, ever heard of Fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice shame on you?

How about, you only burn your hand on the stove once?

How retarded do you think the movie going audience is that a movie they already didn't like is getting a sequel that's more of the same movie they didn't like by the same director they didn't like? Normies are retarded, but you're overestimating how stupid a normie is. Literally one person in my office liked BvS and he's a Synder dickrider who likes Suckerpunch. Normies are fading, and after the normies fade away what's left?

>>91445184
Suckerpunch, Watchmen, 300, BvS, those four movies are visually exactly the same. Deny all you want but there are levels of set design borrowing, color pallets, and scene staging that are nearly the exact same laziness as Bay using the same exact helicopter shot of a car twice lazy.

Also do you think audience just exists in a semi-transparent bubble that lacks the ability to discern what franchise belongs to who or are you actually retarded?

The average person knows what company makes what film and they know that quality carries over. If WW is poor, it's close enough to JL to legitimately hurt its performance, doubly same for GotG and Thor as they seem to share the exact same design aesthetic.

>>91445010
I actually think you're right when it comes to the Wondy thing but I don't think it matters in relation to GoTG. I don't think GoTG correlates to Thors success or failure as Wondy does to JL.

Wondy really is a fucking toss up right now and who fucking knows what the reception will be like. We can assume it will be divisive like the rest of the DCEU but if it trends as negative as quickly as BvS there could spell problems for Justice League. If people are relatively middle of the road with it or end up liking it I think JL will be mostly unaffected by it. I don't think women are going to be going to see it. I really don't see the "YAAASSS" hype-levels they should be at. Bitches should be knockin beyonce in formation for Wondy, not some fat spanish chick on a terrible comic.

>>91445054
>Yeah, but money is what counts.

>Watchmen was a bomb financially
>Legend of the Guardians was a bomb financially
>Sucker Punch was a bomb financially
>given the two most well known superheroes of all time
>in the middle of a cape movie boom
>can't even beat Iron Man 3 or an R rated Deadpool domestically
People know by now what type of movie he makes and they're not excited. Suicide Squad will easily make more than JL will.

>>91445504
>>Watchmen was a bomb financially
>>Legend of the Guardians was a bomb financially
>>Sucker Punch was a bomb financially
And yet... he still helms 200 million dollar movies.
I ain't worried.

>>91438679
>now

Anon, winter movie season isn't particularly new. Studios love the Thanksgiving weekend box office take almost as much as they love the Christmas Day take. It's not quite as pronounced as the whole "summer blockbuster" thing, but winter has always been fertile ground for big releases. Well, up until January, anyway.

>>91445390
>The average person knows what company makes what film and they know that quality carries over.
We know that's bullshit though considering Suicide Squad made nearly as much as BvS which would have been met with laughs if you said that prior to BvS's release. Fact is, the DCEU has its audience despite being shred to pieces by critics. If poor criticism is going to hurt anyone at this point it'll probably be Marvel. Spider-Man Homecoming will be the true test because it has all the markings of a disaster

>>91445504
Watchmen ended up making a ton of money in DVD/Blu-ray sales, which is why they even agreed to let him direct Man of Steel at Chris Nolan's request. The problem with Snyder is he's not trying to make movies for the masses, he makes movies for himself which is kind of respectable but he's under a huge microscope consider he's being given hundreds of millions of dollars and beloved characters to manage.

>>91445594
>considering Suicide Squad made nearly as much as BvS which would have been met with laughs if you said that prior to BvS's release.
bingo
The DCEU is out of critics hands.

>>91445730
I tend to like directors who make movies for themselves.
You can always see so much of their personalities.
I feel like I know Malick, Lucas, etc because they put so much of themselves out on display.

>>91445735
It really is. Even go look around Youtube at the people who hated BvS, they're all hyped for Wonder Woman and JL. If there's one thing WB is good at it's marketing and getting asses in the seats opening weekend.

>>91445594
>>91445735
Suicide Squad made bank of the one two punch of Hot Topic aesthetic and the promise of Joker. In a world without Dark Knight Suicide Squad would be a flop.

>>91438588
>Coco
this movie will kill JL.

>>91445767
>tfw I like the DCEU
I don't even care if I have shit taste, these movies and even the hatred surrounding them just tickle me.

>>91445786
>excuses
Next it'll be
>in a world without female "nerds" WW would have flopped

>>91445786
>Suicide Squad made bank because of these things people liked about it

Wow, sweet analysis.

>>91442455
Except WB is making a concerted effort to make JL as different from JL as possible. Only reason you want to see it is because you're a blind shill.

>>91445813
wow Hot Topic is really the demographic you want to associate with? Do you still unironically *giggle* rawr xD *hugs you tight and licks you're face* SQUEEE

>>91445997
You sound a tad insecure.

>>91446040
>you sound like the definition of the average connoisseur of Hot Topic

caught me. I shop there regularly for new bag pins. Got to be up to date on this stuff. They got in more exclusive Harley <3 (that's a heart philistines) Joker badges and I want all of them. That way I can give patronage to the high class piece that is Suicide Squad: It Made Money™

>>91445981
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Hey, /co/ tells me JL is still the same edgy, washed out, grimdark shit I love, and /co/ seems pretty sure of itself. I think i'm in good hands.

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>>91446197
Wow, even the brightest shot in the trailer is color graded to be darker! /co/'s wrong once again!

>>91446341
????
I'm saying i'm happy about the washed out look.

>>91443865
Don't you fucking ever compare a trash director like Snyder to Michael Bay ever again.

>>91446371
meme

>>91446341
How exactly is this shot supposed to look then?

>>91446367
You and me both buddy! I love how this movie looks just like Avengers™: But Darker™! I just hope that this movie can earn the title of It Made Money™! Who watches movies to enjoy them? Just mindlessly march down to your local AMC™ Theatre, get yourself the LoveTub™ of AMC™ PoppedKernals™ with Fine Grated Butter™ and Foam Cheese™ and a Fountain Drink™ sit down in the CINAPLEX™: CHAIR™ OF THE FUTURE! Buckle yourself in for a bloated three hours of mediocrity! It's the American dream! Make the film Money! It's JUST a Product™!

>>91446525
What do you mean? It's perfect! It's SYNDERVISION™! Enjoy with SYNDERGOGGLES™ (only available at private screenings with personalized audio commentary from Zach 'The Messiah' Synder)

(We do parties)

>>91446617
How fucking pathetic is your life that you get this invested in capeshit movies?

>>91446617
yikes
u mad

Snyder just needs a fucking good writer.
Back me up niggas.

>>91446832
He has one in Terrio. JL will be the first time Terrio isn't working from a Goyer base, and i'm excited.

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>>91438588
It was inevitable. The modern day crucifixion.

>>91446851
What bothers me all the time is the reviews of the preview and coming from Snyder, they tend to be low rated and people watch the movies with low expectations. Fuck all the comments in Thor Ragnarok are full of DC vs Marvel autism.
I need to calm down.

>>91446815
>>91446819
Wow friends, how can you be angry in 51st Year of our Lord? These fil- er, Products™ have only made Money! and they continue to Make Money!™ We all need to go out and see Our Lord's newest film- ahahaha, whoops, I mean Product, and Make Money™ so more Products can be made! Who says Marvel needs to make the most Products? We need to show them that we're only getting started with our soulless money printers!

>>91438618
You can't. They've cornered so many markets they can afford to lose huge amounts of money and can then regain everything by putting out Frozen 2. It's essentially self sustains

>>91438836

's cool.

>>91446914
Just chill. I've been on 4chan for (only) 5 years and I'm just now learning to not give a single shit about other people's opinions here.

>>91438855 I can see you are committed to being a soulless and idiotic scumbag, but he'll never run again

>>91447646
I do wonder.
I'd really like for Rand Paul to win, but that would never happen.

>>91443536
>they refuse to commit
Isn't Snyder directing JL2?

>>91438618
can't. its an entertainment monopoly.

>>91443756
I want to see that George Washington movie.

>>91447837
Didn't even know about that.
>Snyder recreating the painting of Washington in the boat
Count me in.

>>91438588
>Nov 3
>Thor: Ragnarok
nearly 8 months away? Fuck me.

>>91444448
You're out of your mind if you don't think the Justice League movie isn't going to make $1 billion.

>>91447870
Fuck all of us anon.
It's going to be a long ride.
off-topic Godzilla 2 got moved to 2019 and my insides hurt.

>>91444538
I want them to stop making DCEU movies. A connected universe is too restrictive. Let creators make whatever with your properties.

the latter will never happen, but the attempt at a new universe can't be much worse than this one

>>91448124
>but the attempt at a new universe can't be much worse than this one
I disagree.
I think the DCEU is growing nicely, and i've enjoyed all the films so far. MoS and BvS are good films, SS really isn't, but I've watched it like 5 times anyway, so it's doing something right.

>>91448124
>>91448199
I do however agree that connected universes aren't always conducive to the best stories. I think that's why I like Iron Man 1 so much better than the other MCU movies.

>>91447904
Based on what do you possibly think it will make a billion?

>>91441543
>that atrocious "marching"
Jesus Christ, can't they get themselves some veteran to train these idiots?

>>91438588
All this really means is Disney doesn't have faith in Coco. Are moviefags really this stupid?

>>91438618

How the fuck are you going to do that. Some horrible live action remake is going to cross a billion dollars and they have more coming and then there's Star Wars and their cartoon movies that also make billions.

The MCU isn't arguably the 4th biggest weapon in their arsenal and it's huge! The mouse always wins

>>91438588
Is that why they are releasing their big movies two weeks before and after justice League?

If they wanted to end Snyder then they would have released something on the same time as Justice League

>>91449969

Coco has under performance written all over it

>>91449997

is* arguably

>>91450010

Two weeks before isn't going to do shit. JL will probably kill Thor's tail end completely. I don't know if Coco can really do the same to JL. If it was Star Wars JL wouldn't be making over 500mil

>>91450060
Exactly, two weeks doesn't mean anything so this thread is pointless

>Seeing Thor: Quipnarok or Mary Sue Wars

KEK