Marvel responds to to X-Men Gold #1 art controversy

This won't get any traction.

Why not post in the existing thread?

>>Oh, they can remove this but they can't undo Nazi Cap? Hmmm, I wonder if it's because of a Muslim being behind this issue.

I bet you that's a response growing right now.

>>91381579
>disciplinary action
so not fired like anyone else would be? what's he getting, a time out in the corner?

>>91382045
10 minutes of no posting political bullshit on social media

>>91382045
>firing Muslims in 2017
lul

>>91381964
Because Nazi Cap gets them clickbait attention.

>>91382102
>10 minutes of no posting political bullshit on social media
The harshest punishment you could deal out in today's society

>>91381579
what are the anti-christian and anti-jewish references in the art?

Can someone tell me what was wrong with it?

>>91382184
christians are offended

>>91382184
no idea, maybe is something that make US people uncomfortable

>>91381964
There is a difference between a dumb narrative point in a story about Americans versus Nazi's, and sneaking in shit like this when nobody is looking to push your own beliefs.

>>91382162
There is a quran verse on one of the t shirts. It refers to a passage that basically says 'whites and jews are not our allies'

the 212 refers to a group of activists that rally around using this verse to keep non muslims from being re-elected in muslim countries

>>91382226
why? I am christian and I don`t find anything offensive

>>91382162
Colssus wears a t-shirt with a Quran verse on it. The verse was looked up and it was talking about how you shouldn't befriend any Christians or Jews because they are the enemy.

>>91382267
thanks I had no idea about that.

>>91382184
The artist is from Indonesia and decided to put some numbers in some panel's backgrounds that have a significance to current Indonesian politics
It's completely irrelevant

>>91382281
If you're not offended by this then you're not an actual Christian.

>>91381579
>Hiring actual radical Muslim extremists for your superhero comics
When will the big2 ever learn?

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>>91382339
As a guy who lived in Indonesia until last month, let me tell you- this Christian governor the Mudslimes are opposing (and what this nigger Syaf is butthurt about) is one of the people trying to actually clean up the capital.

I was there for some of the riots and these fags are just as much delusional backwards freaks as any other hardliner Mudslime sect.

>>91382354
why? I am baptized, I took the communion, I married at a church and Jesus says that you have to forgive and give the other cheek, plus love your fellow

>>91382226
Considering how the verse legit says that Christians and Jews and lesser beings then it kinda makes sense why people are offended.

>>91382452
>I married
hokay

Can someone actually post the verse so we know what it says?

>>91382354
Ah so you get to define other people's religions. Got it

>>91382508
no spoonfeeding. just type in what it says on the t shirt in OPs image

>>91382534
dumb phoneposter

>>91382504
I am old...sorry?

>>91382267
>whites

Christians. You mean Christians.

>>91382162
Colossus is wearing a t-shirt with QS 5:51 which is a quote from the Quran that says "You must not befriend the christian or the jew and it is blasphemy to follow the leadership of a christian or jew."

212 appears a few times as a reference to a riot when a bunch of muslim extremists wanted to kill the elected leader of a city because it was discovered that he was christian and they proclaimed that he had committed an offense against the Quran by trying to lead muslims.

In addition, the 'moneyshot' of the issue has Kitty Pride standing tall and giving an impassioned speech about how everyone is equal, and someone being different or mutant isn't reason to try to dehumanize people... Except that she is standing in front of a jewelry store when she gives the speech and her head blocks all the letters on the front sign except JEW. So she is giving this speech while everyone is reminded that she is a Jew and the Quran says you must not listen to her.

>>91382614
>blasphemy to follow the leadership of a christian or jew
I bet the comic artist absolutely loathes himself for working under a jewish-owned company

>>91382580
Yes he does.

>>91382580
Whites are christians.

religion is just console wars with history lore.

>>91382508
O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.

>>91382668
The whole point of extremists, be they liberal or conservative, religious or secular, and rich or poor, is that they don't use or think in logical terms because their entire argument is undone with even the simplest of logical discussion.

They sit in the corner with their hands over their ears screaming their personal beliefs as loud as they can so that they can hear the echo coming off the walls and assume their message is changing the world.

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>>91382614
>Except that she is standing in front of a jewelry store when she gives the speech and her head blocks all the letters on the front sign except JEW.

>>91382580
No, he means whites. The word "Christian" wouldn't be useful for his narrative.

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>>91382045

He is still employed aka they did fuck all.

He should get kicked out and hope to get a 3rd rate gig in the industry now

Marvel was built by Jews, this is a fucking crime to the company

>>91382800
Has Jew Overlord Lv99 Ike "the Kike" Perlmutter manifested himself in any way?

>>91382749
Yeah I know. It's pretty apparent considering the guy the 212 thing was about isn't white and if they really cared they'd know that.

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>>91382854

> Never forget everything you love in /co/ was created by Jewish people

You hate them? You hate yourself.

Then again it's /co/ so........

>>91382854
LIke he cares, he probably is excited about all the sales because of the controversy.

>>91382668
Funny thing, Indonesians are dragging him on FB for that exact reason

>>91382854

Perlmutter never says shit about anything.

Bleedingcool is the only reason anyone even cares.

>>91382988
They aren't going to get any added sales. The reprints are going to have it removed. Only the LCSes profit from this because people will actually buy the issue in case it inflates in value.

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>>91381579
I hope he gets fired.

>>91381579

>mutants are supposed to represent minorities
>Insert your religious dogma into it

it's kind of poetic. I can't wait for muslims to take over and all liberals will be forced to deal with their killer pet.

>>91382463
It does not even say that. It just states that Christians and Jews are allies to one another but not to Muslims so one should not seek to be their ally.
Which is a historically hilarious idea from a guy claiming to receive dictates from God directly.

>>91383089
Liberals want atheists to take over dumbass.

>>91383119
What they want and the logical outcome of their policies are two completely different things.

>>91382739
>Jewish by association
Wow, this is actually worse than Hitler.
The Nazis at least required a family member in direct line.

>>91383189
Should read some more of the Quran. It's fun stuff.

>>91383215
Not my fault Hugo and Jake get sidetracked with their disgusting musings on anal sex so much.
They are the only fun Quran study out there.

>>91382988
>>91383037
I don't think Marvel artists get royalties either.

Is it bad that the only problem I have with this is the fact that a Russian man, who AFAIK, has not converted to Islam, is wearing a Quran shirt? I mean, that's like putting a Jesus fish sticker in your car and it turns out you're actually an Atheist.

Even with the 212 stuff, I honestly thought it was a parody of Forever 21, and that JEWelry thing seems like it's reaching.

>>91382969
It's true. For those who don't get it:

>All superheroes descend from Superman

>Superman was created by two Jewish guys.

Checkmate in two moves.

>>91383479
What if I read anime inspired webcomics by shitty online artists.
>Checkmate Jews

>>91383340
The artist confirmed it all on his facebook.

>>91383340
When the artist admits to everything people are claiming, there is no "reaching".

>>91383512
The cape industry it self has spawned many tropes that leaked into other genres.

Like, before Spider-Man, a story about a down on his luck teenager doing things a man would typically do was pretty novel.

Checkmate goy.

>>91383512
You aren't allowed to move your own king in front of your opponent's queen.

>it's controversial to publish something which the billion qurans already state

It's literally what muslims believe. If it's bad to put it in a comic why is it ok to put it in a holy book for billions

>>91382800
Isn't he a freelancer? How do freelancer recruitment work with Marvel?

>>91382434
Indonesia truly is a shithole. I feel embarrassed we had a president from there. but i'm glad to hear things are picking up a little. I hope you get out of there soon

>>91383119
Atheist are useful idiots

>>91383551
>>91383552

He seems very confident that this wont bite him in the ass.

>>91382434
>I lived in Indonesia
No you didn't, stop lying.

>>91384886
Of course. Allah will protect him.

Never underestimate the confidence of the truly religious.

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>>91382854
You make it sound like he only appears in the human realm at certain instances.

Can we stop talking about this already? How are ""subliminal messages""" about political strives in a 3rd world country will affect us in any way?

>>91385519
Entertainment

>>91381579
From the perspective of someone who tries hard to get something working out of art, stuff like this marvel incident makes me think some faggot artists just don't know how good they have it since they pull stuff like this in their position that is hard to get into

>>91385519
they might influence us into caring about other nations and that's terrible

>>91385519

Not Americans, but Indonesians are grilling his ass over it. The moderate muslims AND the fundies who'd agree with the message, mainly because the latter thinks he's being an infidel for working at Marvel, the Jewish company, in the first place while spouting that shit.

wasn't this guy announced to be one of the rotating artists on Green Lanterns for Rebirth? then i don't think he ever draw a single issue. leaving Rocha to carry the whole first arc himself with help from fill-ins. I assumed he had bailed for the X-Men gig. wonder what happened there

>>91385519
Well it's legitimate news at this point. And the issue is not whether it affects anyone. It's shady as hell to just put it in something potentially derogatory into work for hire shit. If it was creator owned it would just be gossip, but this is kind of a genuine ethical question.

>>91383119
Athiesm is the the fastest declining religion right now

>>91382045
What? Do you want Marvel to go the way of Charlie Hebdo?

>>91382969
also all of christendom was derived from jewish teachings so every christian is a secondary jew, meaning america was founded on jewish values

Hopefully he gets pulled from the book, cause regardless of the controversy, his art is just shitty for such a high profile gig.

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>>91382226
This board might as well just be moved to /tumblr/

>>91383119
I want the Zen Buddhists to take over. they know where its at.

>>91383658
>a story about a down on his luck teenager doing things a man would typically do
its called 'Boys Own Adventure' and was a very popular literary genre in Britain

>>91383119
No they don't. They want Muslims you know the people known to love feminism and fags.

>>91385729
Proof?

>>91386070
I want anything that results in dead Christians

>>91386070
those aren't liberals those are clowns the media is trying to convince you are liberals

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Lol

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>>91385729
>athiesm
>religion
Is that the joke?

>>91382614
I want pics of that last one.

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>>91382614

>Except that she is standing in front of a jewelry store when she gives the speech and her head blocks all the letters on the front sign except JEW.

Pfffft hahaha. I don't know if that's intentional or not but it's hilarious as hell.

>>91386587
it's the second image in the OP

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>>91386192

after the French revolution and all the communist dictatorships, I would pass on militant atheists taking over.

>>91386713
After the entire middle east I would pass on religious people taking over.

>>91386678
The black and white makes it hard to see
>>91386679
Holy shit. I thought Msrvel not having sufficient editors was a meme. How the fuck did anyone not see this?

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>>91386496
no-one believes in god more strongly than the atheist, who froths with rage at the thought of being watched and judged 24/7 by a self-appointed cosmic arbiter, and actively tries to pursue and kill any trace of God he can find in the world

>>91381579
Are artist an hero themselves to leave Marvel?

Considering the controversy, and Marvel's vow to remove those references from future printings and digital versions, will this make the issue more valuable?

>>91386977
I'd know what you're smoking there buddy.

>>91387140
Probably

>>91385519
It's very retarded for Colossus to wear that t-shirt.

>>91387174
*don't

>>91386953
Honestly it could just be a coincidence if the other messaging wasn't there in the issue too.

>>91383479
It goes deeper than that, all of the most popular individual superheroes were created by Jews. Not just Superman, but Batman, Green Lantern, Captain America, Spider-man, Fantastic Four, X-Men, etc.

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>>91387250
I think you do

>>91385853
>also all of christendom was derived from jewish teachings so every christian is a secondary jew, meaning america was founded on jewish values
I mean modern Judaism comes from Pharisaism and the Pharisees were the group Jesus spent most of his time arguing with, so that argument is pretty flawed.

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>>91386977
Clearly bait

>>91387440
>Pharisees were the group Jesus spent most of his time arguing with
most of jesus' arguments were with his own apostles

>>91386679
>But call him a Jew and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I've been found out."

>>91387140
its worthless and will remain worthless.

>>91387140
Yes but it's an issue that probably sold 80k+ copies so probably not that much. That issue from the Johns Avengers run with Hank and Janet is only worth like $5 and Marvel took out the sex scene page in the collections and digital releases.

>>91381579

INDONESIAN POLITICS STRIKE AGAIN!!!

>>91381772
Well I would say as a Muslim attacking Christians he wouldn't but going after the Jews too? He may very well be done at Marvel. Remember that no single group holds a grudge the way Jews do.

>>91383089
Muslims aren't a religious minority in Indonesia, though.

>>91384223
Most of the people in Indonesia are nice, progressive and peaceable. In general, those are the areas which still adhere to indigenous religions, though. Toraja, for example.

I can't say the same about the major tourist spots like Bali or Jakarta, which are super-predominantly Islamic. Just saying that it's not really the nation as a whole which is shit - though, that should be a given, as it has like 3,000 inhabited islands.

>>91381579
My local comic shop is letting customers know on facebook that they can return the books and that they'll be pulling all of their copies of their shelves.

>>91386908

Why are people so disingenuous with regards to Islam?
Only Islam is a problem.
Islamists are a problem in Europe, in China (xinjiang), between Pakistan and India, in the Philippines (and Indonesia and we saw in this thread due to this issue), in Russia, and also in Africa in Sudan or Nigeria and many other places like Ethiopia-Somalia.
It is true that Islam has bloody borders.
Even in Syria the dictator is supported by minorities like secular people, "heretics" like alawites and the druze, and christians while ISIS and the other rebels are Sunni muslims.

the only thing that can be done to solve this is to invest in renewable energy to stop financing Saudi Arabia, let them eat sand.

>>91386679

You can clearly see the rest of the word. I have no doubt the artist would have moved kitty an inch to the left if he could have gotten away with it

>>91382800
It's really sad. Reading it, this 212 shit is being led/vanguarded by an extreme Islamist group that has literal sharia patrols and apparently does whatever they can to fuck up non-Muslims (and ethnic minorities too) and believes no non-Muslim should hold positions of power in Indonesia because Indonesia is a Muslim nation.

It's the equivalent of if some WASP was putting coded KKK messages into the art next to Storm. But of course he'll get a slap on the wrist, told not to do it again and keep on keeping on while a white guy (Christian, Jew or whatever) who dared to say anything against Islam in the art would be fired.

>>91388290
or remove/change the word. The writer didn't tell them what to put there.

It could very well be a coincidence, but with the other stuff it's suspicious.

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If a white artist slipped 1488 in he would have (and rightfully so) been fired already

>>91388661
How do you know he's not been? Just because they didn't announce that's what they did?

>>91388661
See I wonder if they are saying disciplinary action instead of fired because he must already have issue 2 or 3 in the can so they don't want to hold the book and have them redrawn. They put what he's finished out and then let him go.

>>91386908
>every religion is islam
What is is about Obama's presidency that turned Liberals from the more logical party to just as bad as the conservatives? Seriously.

>>91386977
False. Only retards believe in god.

>>91388284
>Only Islam is a problem

Ate you completely ignoring the religious right in the west? Christians do way more damage to the west than Muslim's, especially in America.

>>91389016
You got stupider and started making disingenuous leaps in logic to defend your far right ideology

>>91389195

you are as deluded as an upper middle class college educated white woman who thinks she has a harder life for being a woman than a man from Romania.

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>>91383552
Oh shit, he did? What a fuck head.

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>>91386977
>>91387174
>>91387250
>>91387435

>>91389319
Whatever you say, Cleetus. Don't you have an abortion clinic to bomb whole you cheer on the war you started in Syria?

>>91381964
Also, Nazi Cap is going to be undone by the third Avengers movie rolls out. Got to wait for synergy to kick in.

>>91389254
>Imply that liberals stooped to conservatives level
>literally implying that conservatives are dumb
>That makes me a conservative
Nice try buckaroo. But no. I'm liberal on most issues, but the party and the people who follow it are ideologues. Impotent ideologues to boot.

>>91389195
>Christians do way more damage to the west than Muslim's, especially in America.

Yes, my Christian terror attacks are such a problem. It's like you can't turn on the news without seeing a Christian terror attack taking place. Remember that bombing the other day? We all know who was really behind that. The Christians.

>>91381579
Mess with Jews? You lose.

>>91389538
Yes, why*

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>>91389378
Are you implying Planned Parenthood shooting that left 3 dead 9 injured is somehow less damaging than the Orlando night club shooting that killed 50 and left another 53 wounded?

Christians do some hypocritical shit in the west, but Christian inspired terror attacks are nowhere near the level of Islamist terror attacks

>>91389378
Nigga, there were only two abortion bombings last year. Wanna know how many Muslim terror attacks there were?

>>91389195
>Christians do way more damage to the west than Muslim's,
>Oh no, the advancement of gay rights was slowed
>Oh no, people don't believe, abortion is universally justified.

Compare that to mass rape in Germany, gang violence in England, and any other of the slew of issues the European media is knowingly under reporting. And that isn't even getting into the terror attacks that happened.

Seriously, the religious right is assbackwards alot of the time, but to compare that to murder and rape is fucking delusional.

>>91382226
>christians are offended
It was anti-Jewish. Marvel been openly anti-Christian for years. Even preacher wasn't half as anti-Christian as x-men get at times.

>>91381579
OP, how many times i should tell you that this thread belongs to /pol/ and not here?

>>91389378

I am latin american and never lived in the USA (although I have an EU passport and have worked many seasons in european ski resorts).

Trump won because of people like you. Democrats should stop being the manspreading, gay wedding cake, tranny bathroom political party, and start to care about real things like the economy and healthcare.
You are really trivializing some of the worst humanitarian disasters of this millenium btw.

>>91389768
>Happened in a comic book
Yeah, I'm sure you'd be making the same argument if somebody snuck in white supremacy messaging, wouldn't you.

>Inb4 I t-totally would

>>91389589
The church shooting was as damaging as the nightclub shooting.

>>91387252
But Marvel does have a history of not looking over shit in non english to the point they just throw in random words not caring if they make sense in the grammer rules of the non english language.

But this is super embrassing since they have Wilson on call so they can double check with her for the phrase.

>>91389768
How many times has everyone told you that you're retarded and that this is comic related, Lefty/pol/?

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>>91389892
The Charlston one?

Because that wasn't a Christian terror attack. That was racially motivated.

If anything it was a terror attack against Christians because it was at a church.

>>91389807
>and start to care about real things like the economy and healthcare.

Because Trump has been succeeding at both of those.

>>91389807
>spic pretending to know about a country he never lived it.

You have to go back.

>>91381579
So does this just prove that Marvel's editing team needs to get it's shit together?

Also, why the fuck do people still care about subliminal messages?
They don't really exist.

>>91389966
They wouldn't really have any reason to think bad of it. Artists put shit on shirts and things all the time. It's the Artist's fault and he's done it before.

>>91390269
He has on the economy. Even before he took office he had already saved more jobs than obongo did in his whole eight years.

>>91383276
Watch Masked Arab.

>>91389892
You mean the person shooting at Christians was pro-Christians?

>>91390389
Im not blaming Marvel more than the artist for it even existing but i would always double check something especially if it another lanague or make sure the art goes with the writer's intentions of the scene.
This is just them being lazy. Which i do blame them for. It should be a problem if Marvel looked at their own books.

>>91390501
No he hasnt.

>>91390501
730 jobs is hardly a blip on the radar.

>>91389807
>waaaahhh waaaahhhh how dare you call me a racist for saying I want to kill all niggers

Good thing all you conservaniggers are going to die in Trump's war like you deserve.

>>91390269
At least he offered something. The dims proposed a grand total of nothing to actually help the working class. They just kept pandering to nogs and transgendered and illegals while ignoring the vast majority of the country and offering them absolutely nothing but insults and accusations of racism. Well, guess what, the majority got sick of the dims trying to fuck them over.

>>91383189
Well at the time when the Quran was written the warning is there because associating with a Jewish or Christian tribe and becoming allies with them can sometimes lead you into going to battle against your other Muslim allies.

The context is a lot different. Tribalism wasn't just a mentality back then. It was their whole actual society, they were literally tribes.

>>91390501
Trump has enacted exactly zero changes to "save jobs"

The only thing he's done is allow companies to dump coal slurry into rivers, allow companies to sell your internet history, and start a war

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>>91390779
>the majority got sick of the dims trying to fuck them over.
>majority

Is that why Trump lost the popular vote by 3 million people?

>>91390590
What he considered Christians.

>>91390745
>Falling for the WWIII meme.

Oh, man. Because nothing like this has /ever/ happened in that shithole country.

>>91385648

I have friends who would kill to have a chance like this moron just wasted.

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>>91390745
>conservaniggers
>using the N word

That's not very progressive of you. What if your allies at the LGBTQP+* coffee parlor find out you said that?

>>91390947
>We want New York and California to be super states!

>>91390745
Go back to tumblr, sweetie.

>>91391089
Do you not understand what "majority" means?

>>91391019
He was right, obongo did start shit in libya to try to salvage his poll numbers. The whole country is a mess because obongo just waltzed in and toppled its leader in order to make himself more popular.

>>91390979
That's not what his motive was though.

He was trying to start a race war, where the hell are you getting your information from?

>>91382668
Probably he thought he was leeching off their Jewish money by getting paid to sneak in his oh so clever and conspicuous references into their comic books.

>>91391125
Conservatards can't count.

>>91391142
And now Trump is starting a war in Syria to try and recover from his 30% approval ratings.

>>91389860
>>91390090
I'm not even leftypol
Be honest. You know you're not even talking about the comic book, you're talking about its political implications. and that's why it belongs to /pol/

Just look at what the thread have devolved into

>>91391166
Gone be honest. I'd draw so many pepes just to amuse myself.

But to me they don't mean anything.

>>91389016
Eight straight years of a black man leading a white country made them feel like they were top of the world despite doing nothing and that they were on the right side of history.

This last part is quite curious: Did you notice how after Trump's victory, suddenly no liberal dares to pull out the Current Year card?

>>91391125
The majority means more than 50%
Guess what, even with all the nogs that the dims have been breeding and illegals they've been importing, whites are still more than 60% of the population, which means that they are the majority.

>>91391125
Do you not understand the population difference there is in California and New York versus the rest of the country?

Popular vote means jack shit and rightfully so. The electoral college is set up so that states with lower population will have a fighting chance against those with higher populations. As such, the states with higher populations wont determine how the states with lower populations operate.

>>91391347
Instead, the states with lower population get to determine how the states with higher population operate. Wonderful.

>>91389768

>This thing that happened in a comic should be on /pol/ because it triggers me

Really, anon?

>>91382434
>>91385000
as a guy who lives near Indonesia, those people are fucking barbarians

>>91391347
>>91391342

You've changed your argument. You said the "majority" of people supported Trump, but he couldn't even get the majority of the vote. Now you're trying to argue muh electoral college as somehow representing the number of people that support him, which is false.

>>91390353
He is already back. It's just that the US is so bloated with political drama, it is actually spilling and reaching everybody. Who else is it to blame for the attack on Syria and Putin being up in arms about it, if not Americans who have clearly gone all full retard?

>>91391519
Can you reign this shit back to comics in some manner?

>>91391408
All the states are weighted equally.

So when 31 states go against 19 states, yeah. The one with the higher number wins.

Sorry you don't know how your own government works.

>>91387503
most of jesus' arguments were with himself

>>91391408

It ain't perfect but it's probably the best for what you guys got. Really though the Democrats and Republicans need to be split into two different parties each. A bit of decentralization never hurt anyone.

>>91391519
The electoral college exists so that everyone gets represented, even if they live in smaller states. I'm sorry that you dims think that California should get to rule the whole country, but the fact is that the Founding Fathers specifically designed the Constitution to prevent a single super state from dominating all the others. And considering what a massive shithole California is, that is unquestionably a good call.

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>>91391519
Not the same person familia.

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>The boardroom of Marvlel

What an wholly unexpected turn of events.

>>91389807
>Trump won because of people like you

Trump won because he didn't ignore the swing states like Hillary did. She was to busy sucking herself off and being chummy with celebrities. She probably would have been a better president but anyone who denies she fucked up massively due to her own hubris is a retard

>>91388284
>Why are people so disingenuous with regards to Islam?
Because they don't want to get fucking murdered.

>>91389195
>Christians do way more damage

I laugh at you.

>>91391683
First past the post voting means that is not a viable option. We need transferable vote or something like that in order to get more parties.

>>91389377
cute

>>91381579

>Arguing about Trump because some Jew and Christian hating Muslim inserted his shit into a comic

You just can't stop talking about the guy can you?

>>91391263
>starting
you mean entering a war that's been in progres for the past half decade or so?

>>91391640
Only in the senate. In the electoral college, even if you got 31 states you're not guaranteed to win. You're the one who should learn how the government works.

>>91391688
You are still persisting with this. You said the majority of PEOPLE supported Trump. When presented with facts that prove the opposite, you run and hide behind an unrelated argument.

This is why people call you stupid.

>>91391519
Trump did get the majority of the vote when you remove the illegals voting, the extra votes done illegally, the fact that votes for trump were being destroyed illegally. All these things have been proven and you can easily look it up but you cancer liberal trash don't care and just want to ruin the world.

>>91389807
>Trump won because of people like you.
and how about you show a little gratitude for that

>>91391879

He hasn't even entered it in any official capacity. The Syrian government didn't even call the attack an act of war but aggression.

>>91389807
>I am latin american and never lived in the USA
Worthless then.

>>91391920
>Trump did get the majority of the vote when you remove the illegals voting, the extra votes done illegally, the fact that votes for trump were being destroyed illegally. All these things have been proven and you can easily look it up but you cancer liberal trash don't care and just want to ruin the world.

Provide this proof because even your own president has yet to do it.

The only illegal votes reported were republican ones:
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/303406-iowa-republican-voter-arrested-for-alleged-voter-fraud

>>91391966
> call spics worthless because he's a spic
It never ceases to amaze me how liberals are so quick to accuse others of racism when they're some of the most hilariously racist people around.

>>91392186
>haha liberals are the real racist
>also fuck kikes niggers and muslims we need a fucking holocaust

>>91392142
> Provide this proof
Easy.

http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-is-right-millions-of-illegals-probably-did-vote-in-2016/
http://www.dailywire.com/news/12760/flashback-wapo-publishes-study-claims-millions-john-nolte
http://www.wnd.com/2016/11/obama-encourages-illegal-aliens-to-vote/
http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/30/its-naive-to-think-illegal-aliens-arent-voting-by-the-millions/
http://www.newsmax.com/TomFitton/aliens-fraud-illegal-voter/2017/01/30/id/771123/
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/15/nearly-2-million-non-citizen-hispanics-illegally-r/

>dont apologize

lel

>>91383340
If he were some random normie it would be one thing, but it's as obvious as a freemason using 33, or a new yorker using 9-11

>>91385519
I don't give too much of a fuck because I actually want comics to push boundaries, and take chances, but where the fuck are you that you're not affected by islamic fundamentalisism, or people wigging about comic book controversies?

>>91391816
Trump is

>>91386662
muslims are the most anti-semitic people on earth. Of course it was intentional and all the /pol/posters here need to convert immediately

>>91392142
Google "illegals voting." You'll get a ton of news articles that show that millions of illegals did vote in the 2016 election. But of course you won't, because you shitlibs are too afraid to actually confront the fact that the American people rejected your shrill hag.

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>>91382118
Just have to do it the propper way

>>91387745
I love it when /pol/ defends muslims

take them in as refugees already

>>91392296
>>91392435

Alright now why don't you do one iota of fact checking instead of just reading the headlines?

http://pilotonline.com/news/local/trump-s-order-for-major-investigation-into-voter-fraud-is/article_c1e0e01b-8e65-5a50-806a-cc199719bc13.html
>Trump’s order for “major investigation” into voter fraud is based on misquoted ODU research

>Richman, an associate professor at Old Dominion University, found his work tangled up in Trump’s latest effort to support his unsubstantiated claim that millions of illegal ballots were cast in November – the reason Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by nearly 3 million.

>“First of all, he’s confusing our study with another study,” Richman said, “and then he’s flipping ours around and exaggerating the most extreme estimates from it.”

>The Pew Charitable Trusts did release a study in 2012 that indicated 1.8 million deceased voters remain on the rolls and millions of other voter records are out of date. But the study did not say anything about voter fraud.


Why are all conservatives so fucking stupid?

>>91391342
>>91391142
>>91391688
>dims
>obongo
>nogs
Why are you trying to sound like a chain email from a grandpa?

>>91387745
I'd say the sandniggers hold some pretty strong grudges, too.

>>91392560
That's the thing I've found the most disappointing about the alt-right. They're neckbeards that think like racist grandpas. At least old people have the excuse of senility.

>>91381579

That is why everyone in the region calls them InDOGnesial.

>>91392371
tell me more about the freemasons

>>91387218
It's very retarded for Colossus to wear t-shirts in general.

>>91391333
Well, we've clearly taken large steps backwards, so it's a piss poor barometer for shaming backwards thinking.

Also hope this guy gets fired.

>>91382739
>They are [in fact] allies of one another
wow /pol/ btfo by M (p.b.u.h)

>>91392666

Your grandpas were smart. Look at the rates of black crime vs white crime. I will never move into a black majority community (again) after being homeless.

>>91393280

and when you look at the crime rates, realize that there would be 5x the murders if not for modern trauma care.

Yes, the murder rate would be something like 20000-25000(IIRC) without advances in trauma care over the past 3-4 decades.

>>91381579
Right in the JEW of time.

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Just remember, /co/.

The GOP in their first week of power tried to obliterate the Independent Ethics Panel.

It was, ironically, halted by Trump. But god damn they actually tried it. Like, what the fuck is wrong with these states electing these people? Christ.

>>91391908

You're out of the loop. We don't live in a democracy. Especially when both sides commit mass voting fraud.

Your democracy ends where oil, rare earth elements, and internation shipping begin.

The majority people are stupid low energy game players. Why the fuck would I trust "The People"?

>>91382434
Neat

There's a few narratives trying to spin it for muslims but hardlining against the jewish run clickbait sites, good luck.

>>91393762
>You're out of the loop. We don't live in a democracy. Especially when both sides commit mass voting fraud.

You have yet to provide proof of voter fraud.

>>91393911

You don't think an election regarding the most powerful man in the world (whoever sits as president) would have cheating in it?

You're fucking naive. The election brings out the most base emotions and the most "means to an end" driven action.

>>91385519
It won't affect you in anyway if someone came up to you and called your mother a whore, but you still wouldn't like it. Also,
>Can we
>>>/reddit/

>>91393995
"Muh feels" are not proof. I asked you to provide proof. Why do you insist on relying on feelings instead of facts?

>>91393995

If you want an example, look at Lyndon B. Johnson. He cheated in EVERY election he was a part of. Even the election to be student president of a backwaters Texas college.

I don't think he was super ambitious compared to most presidents.

>>91394097
>Why do you insist on relying on feelings instead of facts?

It's not feeling, it's observing that man will sacrifice body and mind for power and status.

You are completely clueless to the world if the above doesn't form something to take into consideration when looking at political matters.

>>91382854
Until recently, Perlmutter was one of the most reclusive CEOs around. He never does interviews - we didn't even have a photo of him taken within a decade until a few months back.

Perlmutter would never talk about shit like this.

>>91393995
>>91394141
Proclaiming that people who don't agree with you are naive and clueless isn't the same thing as providing evidence. You have claimed that there is massive voter fraud. Where is your proof?

>>91384223
>I feel embarrassed we had a president from there.

Having a spoiled rich kid for a president is somehow less embarrassing?

>>91393995
>the most powerful man in the world (whoever sits as president)
This isn't supposed to be true, though, and this attitude is what causes so many political problems within the united states.

Funny that America was founded to get away from monarchies, and now all American people want is a king to lead them.

>>91394327

I don't know. I'm not a fucking walking encyclopedia.

Think about it this way. Would you bet $100 on the proposition that there was no massive voter fraud (on the part of both sides)?

I'd bet a $100 in person that there was massive voter fraud.

Thinking of statements and propositions as bets, and counter bets, helps establish what you truly think are iron-clad propositions and which ones are propositions barely gleaned at for scratches or faults.

>>91394391
Trump at least made something of himself unlike the community-organizer-in-chief.

>>91394141
And yet you have no proof or facts to substantiate your argument. You are making an irrational emotional argument.

Again, I ask you to provide a single fact that proves your voter fraud claims.

>>91394478
Massive as in millions as mentoned earlier?
Then yeah, I'd bet $100 dollars that there wasn't massive voter fraud.

>>91389807
>Trump won because of people like you.

That would be true if he won the popular vote, but he didn't.

>>91394506

I'd bet a $100 on my view of things. If I had enough money to waste, I'd bet $1000 on my view.

How much would you bet on your view?

>>91394497
A perpetually-bankrupt land baron?

>>91389319
>>91389538
>>91389740
>>91391750

I know it's easy for you to ignore facts, but for the rest of us, facts and statistics matter.

>>91394572
I'd bet $100 that you're wrong.
Being willing to bet one something just means you think it's true. That's different from it having any real basis in fact.

>>91393762
>>91394451

Hobbes was right.

>>91394451
It's something innate in all people, I think. When there's troublesome times what people want is a big strongman with broad shoulder to hold them, to tell them that they'll be taken care of. They want security.

>>91394451

The wages of mass communication. The fascists would be NOTHING without radio. Television created the need for a "photogenic president".

We're social animals stuck with social evaluation systems when a tribe might only be 100-200 people. From a certain viewpoint, it's a monstrous situation.

>>91394451
Nothing sours people on liberty more quickly than being granted liberty.

>>91394478
>>91394572
You aren't even making an argument now.

You started with saying that voter fraud absolutely existed and was the sole reason that Trump lost the popular vote, then you said that both sides committed fraud because "emotions run high," and now you're saying that you feel like it's true enough to bet your meager NEETbux on it.

If you have no facts to back up your argument, then why do you persist in believing them? Why have you convinced yourself of something that you have no evidence of?

>>91392296
All these links are ultra-conservative links that purposefully frame their news in an ultra-conservative manner. These are meant to feed your hateful ideology rather than supply with actual facts.

>>91394654

You're right. As I said before, my own experience expects shady, double dealing, and even monstrous actions by political figures. I think the pessimistic view has far better returns than the optimistic view. In regards to our system of politics.

>>91394718

Because voting machines and gerrymandering are things.

Electronic voting systems are notoriously unsecured. If LBJ could cheat elections before the advent of electronic voting machines, a person seeking power, now, can hire minions to mess with electronic voting machines.

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>>91394506
Not that anon, but what are you trying to do? Say that American elections are a squeaky clean and immaculate process where all parties play honestly and are open about all the dealings that happen behind closed doors?

>inb4 T-THAT'S FALSE EQUIVALENCY™
It's not. Either politicians are corrupt or they aren't. What you're asking is that people forget everything and follow blindly corrupt, borderline sociopathic leaders.

Some facts exist on their own.

>>91394750
My experience leads me to believe that people aren't anywhere near as good at maintaining a conspiracy as you seem to think. People fuck up. People sell out for book deals. This is the problem with conspiracy theories. They general require that the people involved be a lot more capable than human beings actually are.

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>>91381964
You know damn well if anyone else put messages all over a book they would be fired in seconds.

This guy gets.....well nothing at all. Expect more messages in the future from Marvel

Diversity is totally working

>>91394750
Something something anecdotal evidence.

Which means your wrong and your experiences on this issue didn't actually happen or matter.

>>91394857

LBJ didn't get caught.

>>91392861
They are traditionally a very rich fraternity who because of their previous highly secret nature were once believed to be part of the Illuminati and new world order.

Though most probably some sects are just where rich people go to shoot the shit.

>>91394857
And my experience is that people's competence and smarts get a boost when they're plotting something amoral more so than when they try to do any honest work.

Especially so if the amoral plot leads to heaps upon heaps of money, which is the best incentive there is.

>>91394696
this is why I say the USA was a mistake. better for the states to instead be allied independent nations

>>91381579
Doesn't Indonesia have anything more important to do than this christian/jew/muslim shit? Maybe try to stop being a shitstain of a country?

>>91382969
Islam derived from Judaism, muslims are deep down secretly jewish!!!!!!!!!

>>91394895
It's not that the experiences didn't happen, it's that they aren't evidence for the thing that is actually being claimed. What evidence is there that there were millions of illegal votes?

>>91395018
They tried something pretty close to that at first under the Articles of Confederation and it didn't work. The United States was vastly more effective.

>>91395029
What is more important, anon? The trappings of your mortal life, which are ephemeral and passing? Or the state of your immortal soul?

>>91394825
>>91394845

Again, can you provide a single fact that there was voter fraud? Not if it's possible, not if it FEELS like it happened. I want to know if it happened. Because if you can't prove that it happened, then I seriously question why you believe that it did.

>>91395029
some people actually believe that applying sharia laws will automatically fix everything wrong with the country, because it will grant them divine blessing etc etc

>>91383089
>mutants are supposed to represent minorities
You all know there is a billion muslims in the world right, Thats 1,000,000,000

>>91395155
'sharia law' is as meaningless as 'good christian values'. everyone has heir own highly detailed idea of what that means and just assume on arrogance everyone else means the same thing

>>91394862
They have to options

1) immiediate termination
2)termination after his contract is up. (which is after issue 3)

The latter is probably true.

>>91395154
> then I seriously question why you believe that it did.

It happened in the past (LBJ). Human nature hasn't changed in 50 years.

>>91382281
That's because you're too dumb to realize you're being insulted.

>>91381579
>shitpost your extremist political beliefs secretly in your PROFESSIONAL WORK
>expect the autists on the internet to not figure it out and complain to your bosses

Woooooooooow how was he supposed to know????

>>91395198
So you're saying that you have zero proof of voter fraud, but persist in believing it anyway because your feelings matter more than facts. You latch on to irrational ideas because you dislike the facts that oppose them.

Okay.

>>91395198

CONT

And to be honest, given the history of politics in this country, you should be the one providing evidence of no corruption.

>>91395029
Muslims believe spreading their religion is the answer to everything, and their religion hates jews and christians, so you can see how a muslim country is always muslim/jew/christian shit. The muslims always fucking with everyone else.

>>91383340
Even if the artists didn't blatantly confess, I'm sure that planning, sketching, inking and coloring a panel with the words JEW next to a jewish character is a reach. The faggot had hours and hours of looking at that shit and for no one to notice it, now that's a reach.

>>91395336
every election I and about 2 dozen other people that I know, get paid to drive a bus of minorities and immigrants to as many polling places as we can and have every person on the bus, vote at every one. because you can't prove voter fraud exists without asking for ID and it's illegal to ask for ID in the state where I live so there's no way to get caught.

>muslims complain about a police dog touching a hat in an advertisement is blasphemy because dogs are unclean
>ad is pulled immediately
>muslims complain that a picture of a stylistic ice cream cone on an ice cream product looks like the word allah so it's blasphemy
>image gets changed immediately
>muslim literally and purposefully includes a reference to anti-christian and jew hate speech in his work
>"""disciplinary action""""

W E W

>>91395198
>>91395338
The US had institutionalized slavery based on race in the past. That alone is not evidence that we still have it now.

>>91395637
I'd boycott this guy's work, but I don't specifically buy any comics, so it wouldn't do anything. Does Marvel run any diagnostics on how many people are reading which books on Marvel Unlimited?

>>91395719
> implying we don't still have slavery
Just look at how devoted liberals are to the idea of keeping nogs on the government plantation by making them dependent on government handouts.

>>91395613
Proof?

>>91395719

Slavery was a peculiar institution.

The drive for men to do anything for power and status has existed since civilization began.

>>91393347
Where are you getting this from? Wouldn't that just carry over to violent crimes stats that don't end in death like assault?

>>91395600
This one I don't get.
>So Colossus wearing a shirt with a Quranic reference on it is problematic because it calls for de facto segregation of Muslims and Christians/Jews
>The 212 on the sign references a political movement which calls for the same

But what's the problem with pointing out that a Jewish character is in fact, Jewish?

>>91395970
Slavery predates elections, and thus election fraud, by a fair margin. Dismissing it as merely a peculiar institution ignores that it too has been a long running part of human civilization.

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>>91381579
Welp the guy didn't even try to apologize or anything. He even defended his actions

>>91396284
>this damage control

lmao, embarrassing
if it really was nothing he would have just told them from the start

>>91393280
>Look at the rates of black crime vs white crime
but those stats said they were more likely, not that most of them are criminals and a lot people on both sides seem to have trouble reconciling this.

>>91396284
Really roasts my rutabaga when people think Islam shouldn't be mocked just like all religions.

>>91396284
>Baww someone made fun of the part of my book that said we shouldn't trust jews or christians!

No shit sherlock. That's stupid advice, regardless of what make belief magic book you get it out off. You think Christians will get buttblasted if you make fun of the parts of the bible that are ridiculous? There's tons of that shit in there that everyone ignores.

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>>91383479
Wrong. They're descended from Conan.

>>91396284
>qs 5:51 is the verse he mocked
>this is very special memory for me
This alone ought to be damning, seeing as it confirms he intended to make it about that line, and since anyone with an internet connection or a couple of dollars can see what that line is.

Also, Just looked it up. Ahok did absolutely nothing wrong. He was firing back over people who were trying to use that line to discriminate against him and deny him political power based on his religion, and now he's facing blasphemy charges for it. Fuck Syaf.

>>91389747
>X-Men is anti-Christian
>X-Men was a book that was meant to proxy social commentary about minorities and marginalized groups
>Bible-Belt Christians have a long running history of using the Bible as an excuse for denying rights to women, minorities, and gays
>X-Men are proxies for two of those groups

Gee, I wonder why?

>>91382614
>Quran that says "You must not befriend the christian or the jew

Didn't Mohammad call Christians and Jews " people of the book" and say they were allies? I mean it was the Christian king of Ethiopia that gave him shelter when the merchants of Mecca wanted to kill him

Okay, absolutely serious question here.

Does the Quran follow a linear narrative structure like the Bible and Torah? Because, if it does, I want to know what's going on in the surrounding verses of this whole "never ally with Christians and Jews" thing. Because there's a ton of situational verses in the Bible that, if taken out of context, would imply that Christianity wants Jerusalem to burn forever and the Torah insisting that they should forever be at war with all surrounding nations.

>>91396960
he also said pretend to be friends to destroy other peoples cultures from the inside.

>>91396960
Yeah. I'm sure most of the whole "THE QURAN IS 100% ABOUT KILLING ALL WHITES... I MEAN CHRISTIANS" shit is people picking single lines out of it to justify shit, aka how Christians themselves have justified their own horrid shit over the centuries.

>>91396960

The later inscriptions (violent ones) supercede the earlier ones (peaceful ones).

>>91396991
Christians and Muslims don't have one faith. It depends on the sect.

>>91397076
That doesn't answer the question.

The question was "Does the Quran have a linear narrative structure" not "Do Christians and Muslims believe the same things."

>>91396284
Fucking chinks.

>>91388168
Mine did the same. I had two friends ask me to pick up copies for them (I wasn't planning on getting one before or after the controversy) but when I called my LCS to throw a couple into my pull, the owner told me they're doing a voluntary recall and sending them all back to Marvel.

>>91397125
which quran you want, senpai?

>>91397188
You should try and get them. In a few years they might be valuable.

>>91396960
iirc the whole thing wasn't written in one go, it was written partially according to whatever situation the muslims faced at that time

The one you referred to was written in earlier days, when they really don't have anyone who are willing to support them except those "people of the book"

In their later days, when their power has grew into a state, they started getting into conflicts with the christian/jewish states. That's when the 5:51 thing shows up

>>91397198
Original Arabic, senpai.
Only Christians think that translating from one ancient language from another doesn't confuse/obscure/destroy the meanings of whole verses.

>>91397248
Huh.
Makes you wonder if The Bible wasn't written all at once.

>>91397058
Like any religious text it's really bipolar. Comes with having multiple authors over long periods of time

>>91397296
>Makes you wonder if The Bible wasn't written all at once.
Not sure if this is a joke or you don't know

>>91397296
It wasn't. Interestingly, it seems to get more Antisemitic as it goes on too, as it gets more Greek influence, and the lines between Christians and Jews became more clearly defined.

>>91397299
That's what I figured. Just like how The Old Testament stops being a history lesson and randomly goes into songs, helpful hints, and a really really pissed off guy talking about how much he wished God would just smite everyone already.

Had a Christian friend who put more faith in the 4 Gospels and Acts than any of the rest of the New Testament, because he said that all the other letters were basically written by simply ministers trying to push their own agendas.

>>91397328
It was. The King James Version is the only real one and it was preserved in the Pyramids for centuries until the Anglican Church discovered it and translated it word for word, meaning for meaning into English.

>>91397329
That's the Devil's version of the Bible.

>>91397394
>push their own agendas.

Basically until the Protestant Reformation the Bible was only in Latin to keep the common person from reading it, they had to rely on the clergy for all spiritual readings. Getting caught translating the bible into a common language was a death sentence.

>>91397429
>That's the Devil's version of the Bible.
You mean the Catholic one?

>>91397329
Well it becomes more "antisemitic" as it goes along since Jews couldn't stop worshipping false gods. Seriously like even after Moses leads them to freedom it seemed like every few months they'd stop worshipping God and start praying to idols. Then as soon as any thing bad happen they'd immediately go back to God and ask for help. They do it so many times God got pissed and said "Why not ask your idols for help huh? You give them praise then why not ask them for help." I'm surprised that God just didn't smite all of them.
Then God sends his son to do great things and what happens the Jews reject and hate him and eventually lead to his death.

>>91397462
I want puritancucks to leave this planet

>/co/ - politics and religion

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Why would you do this and risk your career? I don't understand.

>>91397461
No, no. I mean the ACTUAL writers of the letters; the various Disciples who all had a different opinion on how the church should function. My friend felt that, once it wasn't Christ who was talking, it was basically his buddies saying "No, this is what Jesus REALLY wants the Church to be like". Whatever actual clergy did with the Bible after the formation of the Old Church wasn't want I was talking about.

>>91397468
No, you're not getting what I'm saying. You're looking at the whole bible like a single completely valid story. The old-testament stuff from Exodus wasn't part of my point. The books of the New Testament were written at different times, and there wasn't a clear split in Christians/Jews at the time of Jesus' death, it happened later. The specific Antisemitic stuff is from the books that are thought to have been written by Greek Christians during or after the split.

>>91397468
I thought the whole "Jews ignore God, get their shit wrecked, Pray to God, get saved, repeat" reached its peak with Judges?

Also, i think he means more of the sentiment of "No, Christians and Jews have nothing in common" trope you see most American Christians say.

>>91397509
To be fair, this IS a discussion about why someone would put a quote from the Quran in some final art for the new X-Book and the readers trying to figure out the real intent behind it by figuring out the meaning of the verse itself.

>>91394623
In what world do you live where Christian terror attacks do more damage than Muslim terror attacks? Any stats that say that include attackers who happen to be Christian (or even just white but raised Christian), regardless of motivation.

>>91397622
>Also, i think he means more of the sentiment of "No, Christians and Jews have nothing in common" trope you see most American Christians say.
Nope, I'm talking about stuff that's actually written into the New Testament. The later written accounts of Jesus' life have him saying some rather puzzling stuff against the Jewish religion that doesn't appear in the earlier ones, and doesn't make much sense either, because he thought of himself as a part of the Jewish religion, seems to have observed Passover, and is in some parts of the Bible called a Rabbi. But if you look at the whole thing from the perspective of the animosity the Christians or Christian who wrote the parts that insult Jews felt for a temple that had labelled them heretics, it makes a lot of sense.

>>91397659
Looking into Indonesia it's because a conservative Muslim group is trying to get the Christian Prime Minister removed from office because they don't think a non-Muslim should rule their country

The Verse in question is one that they use as proof that a Christian shouldn't be in charge. Looks like the artist has thrown his hat in with them

>>91397715
Jesus was critical of the Pharisees and the Jews who believed them to have more authority than the Torah.

To put it in a modern sense, He was critical of what amounted to a political party made up of self-important rabbis who were making a mockery out of Judaism and flaunted their positions to get what they wanted from the Israelites. The Pharisees had Jesus crucified because He was basically starting a movement that would have knocked them out of power.

>>91385834
Who doesn't?

>>91397731
I think what we should REALLY learn from this is to not let religious conservatives anywhere near politics.

>>91397848
>Jesus was critical of the Pharisees and the Jews who believed them to have more authority than the Torah.
You're talking about this as if the book gives an accurate depiction of what Jesus thought, when some of it, particularly the Gospel of John which I was referring to, was written decades after Jesus' death in a different social context.

>>91397890
The narrative of the Gospels is pretty clear that Jesus was critical of the Pharisees and that what he preached was incredibly against what they were about.

You wouldn't happen to be Muslim would you, because I know that Muslims are highly critical of the Gospels because they believe that Paul and the Early Church purposely altered them to gain power.

GB2 >>>/pol/

>>91397927
>You wouldn't happen to be Muslim would you
Nope. Not everyone who questions the validity of the accounts in the gospels is in a conspiracy against you. Most Historians do too, and look at them as saying more about the times they were written than the actual person of Jesus.

>>91398069
I wasn't crying conspiracy; it just would have been relevant to the discussion if a Muslim was in the thread pointing out the inconsistencies of the Gospel. I'm just speaking from how it appears from a narrative standpoint; not a theological/historical standpoint.

I absolutely don't deny that an anti-Semitic stance has crept in over the centuries thanks to the time between the writings claim to chronicle and the events themselves, in addition to various translations and the agendas of those translating; I'm just saying that, in the story itself, the anti-Semitism has more to do with Jesus's actions and the Pharisees reactions.

>>91396284
I'd actually sincerely be okay with part of what he pulled if Colossus had ever been Muslim. Kurt's had a lot of time with his Christianity being put front and center, with verses quoted.

But... nope.

I love Syaf. Disney won't fire him because diversity and he's driving Perlmutter insane by continually threatening to exterminate his entire race..

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>implying he's not secretely a self-hating muslim and he's playing 4D chess by drawing peoples attention to these anti-christian and anti-jewish lines in the quran so people become outraged at islam and stop thinking it's a religion of peace

>>91396284
> he mocked my religion and the police should take him in
That's a country you should never visit

>>91396960

"people of the book" means that you don't have to outright enslave christians and jews like everyone else, they can live in muslim lands if they pay a tax, called the jizzya, which I presume they pay in cum

>>91398198
That's fair, I suppose.

Cool, I picked up a few of the first printings today. May be able to make a quick buck.

>>91397848
So he was anti-Republican.

>>91397539
muslims are close to literally getting away with murder

what the fuck do they have to fear from a bunch of limpwrist lefties?