Muslim comic book artist puts bigoted ideas into Marvel.

>>91367920
But muslims are third worlders.

>>91367920
>the city of Marvel

>>91367920
Holy shit

>>91367920
>durka durks to Allah

What a surprise

>>91367920
>reddit
>literally looking for ways to be offended
Too bad that artist works with a bunch of jews and can be considered their ally.

Also you have a codename Kitty: Shadowcat, it's just really lame.

>>91367920
>"212" refers to a anti-non-Muslim movement in a third-world country.
Forgot to mention, but the comic book artist is from said country, and a supporter of the movement based on his facebook posts.

>Reddit

You understand you have your own board and whole other forum, right?

>unironically linking to le reddit
if you ever wanted an indication of how far /co/ has fallen there you go

also >>>/pol/

>>91367920
Didn't we just have this thread?

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Pretty sure drawing living beings is forbidden for them.

>>91368043
You're mixing up your harams bro.

>>91368041
Yes but you may have noticed muh controversy threads being reposted over and over and over and over of late. Almost as if this wasn't /co/ at all. Isn't it strange? I wonder (((who))) could be behind it?

>>91367920
Literally what? I'm pretty sure those are issue numbers. You should take this to /pol/, this is your second thread on this topic, I'd rather you didn't spam /co/ with your conspiracy theories.

>>91368041
OP here, tried searching keywords like "Muslim", "Moslem", or "Indonesia" on catalog and archives, but couldn't find anything.

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>>91368040
>>91368030
>talking about a comic book artist's drawings isn't /co/ related

Really activates the almonds.

>>91368062
It's /pol/, mystery solved.

>>91367976
yes, racist x-men penciller. we know. anyone who has ever read a book with kitty pride in it knows she is a jew.

>>91368070
You're talking about the artist or the drawings, you're talking about subliminal messages.
>take it to /pol/

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>>91368070
Not /co/ material if it's not Szechuan sauce or Samurai related.

>>91368067
there's a reason for that

>>91368098
woah so this...is the power...of a mouseketeer...

>>91368070
Dude I wish we could actually have a discussion about this, and maybe we could look at other references that have been put in comics books throughout decades and it would be a fun and interesting thread.

But on this topic? With this OP? No this is going to be a dreadful shit thread. If you are outraged by the OP go write Marvel, maybe they'll care.

>>91368129
OP hure, I'm hurt.

>>91368108
>>>/reddit/

>>91368129
>that time Lois, Clark and Jimmy appeared in Marvel Knights: Spider-Man
Good times

>>91368159
Reddit is literally linked in the OP, fucko.

>>91368129
It's literally comic book-related. If it upsets you, go to another fucking thread. This is my last response to you, you cocksucking fucking retard.

>>91368040
Somehow Tumblr complaining about Reddit invading /co/ is hilarious to me. Some serious pot:kettle action going on here.

>>91368065
Apparently the artist doesn't deny it it and is pretty cocky about it on his facebook (from the little that's not in Indonesian)
What a knobhead, he's getting fired without a doubt.

By the way he also put the Indonesian president in Batgirl.

Got to wonder how that guy got into cape comics if he hates non-muslims.

>>91368166
You can go to

>>91368188

Go to where?

>>91368205
To HELL

>>91368187
I have no ideas what these numbers are supposed to mean, and I'm smart enough to not read a comic about Babs when she's able to walk, or read a comic written by a man who managed to make season 3 and 4 of Arrow worse than season 1.

This all sounds like /pol/ to me, I don't care about these political views or events and them being reference doesn't impact me at all, in fact your thread has had more of an impact on me.

So why are you spreading this propaganda around OP? just ignore it like I do with Snyder and Bendis.

>>91368187
>Apparently the artist doesn't deny it it
Source?

>>91367920
there was another thread earlier that better explained this.
212 is also nyc's area code. it's a clever thing to put in and i wouldn't normally buy it. jewelry is obscured so that you only see jew on one side of kitty and 212 on the other, with the quran passage on colossus' shirt pretty much confirms it. the only real doubt i have is that they're on separate pages. the 212 movement uses that quran passage to justify their shitty actions.
also, putting a quran passage on a russian. bold.

>>91368030
>go away this is a brainwashed board only!

>>91368176
>It's literally comic book-related.
No it's not, take your meds because no one is trying to send you a secret message.

>>91368259
>also, putting a quran passage on a russian. bold.
There are plenty of Muslims in Russia though.

>>91367920

this is really unnacceptable

>>91368264
GB2reddit.

OP here. If you don't believe it or think it doesn't matter, great. I personally find it disgusting someone tried to insert radical Islam references in X-Men comics.

>>91368268
It is comic book related in that an individual artist decided to put this in. It's not comic book related in the sense of some vast Islamist conspiracy.

>>91368233
Not OP, I just wanted to check if there's any substance to this.
It's definitely /pol/ /pol/ing along, but in this case they happen to be correct.
Not that it's that big a deal, I mean nobody is going to read this and go "wtf I hate jews now".

>>91368242
His facebook (Ardian Syaf), as I said.
Can't link it because 4chins thinks it's spam

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>>91367920
>tfw Sciver can do this and get off scot free
FUMING

>>91368312
I checked out the facebook and it looks like he's taking a fair bit of flak from fellow Indonesians including Indonesian muslim. I guess it'll be interesting to see the fallout. That verse seems like a really stupid one to choose.

The islam defense force is all-out here.

>>91368274
They've caused problems in the past. Belsan School Massacre.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_siege

>>91368372
And that's where we veer into definitely non-/co/ territory.

>>91368337
There's a difference between expressing disdain for politicians on twitter and hiding messages of religious intolerance in Marvel comic books.

>>91368187
>Got to wonder how that guy got into cape comics if he hates non-muslims.

That just goes with the territory of being a moderate muslim. It's a very commonly held belief. Add in SJW politicising everything, and you get people doing shenanigans such as this.

>>91368379

>O-okay it's DEFINITELY not /co/ related now. M-m-mods!

>>91368382
Now if he had put a pepe on there he'd be a hero.

>linking to reddit
Holy shit, no wonder /co/ is one of the shittier boards on this site.

You need to go back.

>>91368372
Would you consider it bold to have a French or British Muslim character? Russia has an equivalent or higher % of a Muslim population than those countries, and they have also suffered terrorist attacks.

>>91368398
kek

>>91368338
I checked out his face but couldn't read Indonesian so I have no idea what they're saying.

>>91368398
Wow anon, I guess its okay to hide religious hatred in Marvel comics if the stoopid /pol/ bogeyman likes Pepe!

Do you think that we won't get any religious imagery in the upcoming DC Films if this gets momentum?

>>91368312

Pics or it didn't happen.

>>91368389
He hardly seems moderate and you're a retard if you think SJWs have anything with the islamic resurgence in Indonesia.

>Marvel's nonexistent editorial at work again

>>91368397
Well it is, and unrelated to the topic discussed too. Still didn't report it.

>>91368445

No, but they certainly are NOT helping.

>>91368161
>that time when ethan van sciver disneyfied (before disney brought them too) an issue of morrison's new x-men with lots of hidden sex inuendo.
quesada blew a gasket and fired him, morrison laughed, van sciver did it on purpose so he could work on green lantern rebirth (not the new one) with geoff johns.

>>91368446
>implying anyone who's not a muslim would even realize what that shit means
Marvel editorial is shit, but I won't fault them for not realizing what this means. If the autistic OP didn't find it out, nobody here would notice either.

>>91368437
It is when trolling you with it is so easy. And I'm not a good troll eh?

>>91367920

If you really care tweet this shit to Marvel and the editor of the book instead of complaining here.
twitter.com/danielketchum
twitter.com/MarkPaniccia
twitter.com/axelalonsomarv

Hell, send it to clickbait websites. I'm tired of Marvel's hypocrisy and this is the only way to make this blow up in their faces.

>>91368446
I'm guessing that none of them knew what this was supposed to be referencing, I know that over 90% of people who read that issue without having read this clickbait first will have no idea as well.

>>91368446
>expecting editorial to recognize Quran passages
Maybe if it was Amanat

>>91368473
Damn anon, you got me good dude! I guess we both agree this religious intolerance isn't acceptable at all.

>>91368312

this is a book with a Jew leader (Kitty Pryde) and the writer includes
-a religious text that says muslims should not accept christians or jews or leaders
-the date of a demonstration in Indonesia by islamists against the christian governor of Jakarta

and a store with the word JEWel next to Kitty

If I were Marvel I would fire this islamist

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>>91368442
There's not much to screencap, people are calling him out and he isn't responding except with ad hominems.

>>91368486
>Something that actually happened and is relatively noteworthy
>The OP is a link to reddit and an explanation
>Clickbait

What did you mean by this?

>>91368412
>Would you consider it bold to have a French or British Muslim character? Russia has an equivalent or higher % of a Muslim population than those countries, and they have also suffered terrorist attacks.

Not at all. Also, what does the % of Muslims have to do with anything in regards to historical context? Russia has a history of bloody terror attacks since the 60's vs the UK and France. A much better parallel would be inserting the IRA into the UK.

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>>91368445
Anon, but that IS moderate muslim beliefs. Part of the reason I left the religion.

>>91368441
You mean that movie where Superman comes back to life?

>>91368539
Fucking religious fags, forcing their shit into comics, how dare they!

>>91368530
>Anon, but that IS moderate muslim beliefs. Part of the reason I left the religion.
Just a reminder Indonesia is regarded as exemplary moderate Islam at work. And Turkey too in the past.

>>91368520
Maybe cause it's actually nothing? Have you ever thought that maybe...just maybe that he didn't actually put subliminal messages on his comic.

>>91368559
>Just a reminder Indonesia is regarded as exemplary moderate Islam at work.
Said no one ever.

>>91368500
Nah. Intolerance is pretty acceptable when religion is shit.

You're not really grabbing me here trying to explain it like that.

>>91368523
>>Something that actually happened and is relatively noteworthy
Not in any place of the world that actually matters
>>The OP is a link to reddit and an explanation
>>Clickbait
I'm not clicking a link that's going to bait me onto reddit
>What did you mean by this?
Buzzwords, what are you, some kind of newfag?

>>91368530
>Anon, but that IS moderate muslim beliefs.
I wonder how so many muslims manage to have non-muslim friends and coworkers.

>>91368510
>the writer
Is it the writer or the artist? Make up your mind.

>>91368523
>link to reddit

>>91368560
Too much of a coincidence.
212 is a well-known number for anti non-Muslim movement in Indonesia.
The said movement like to refer to this particular Quran phrase QS 5:51.
Artist is also from Indonesia.
His interactions on facebook basically confirms he's a supporter of that movement.

I never really got the point of using magic number codes that will only ever be understood by extremists that use them. Is it just like

>"Hey shoutout to my fellow psychopaths!"

What's the endgame here?

>>91368575
Obama said that.

>>91368575
That's patently false, Indonesia has been long recognized as a nice moderate Islam country.

Considering the other options, it IS a moderate country. They're the most moderate majority country out there. What other country are you going to pick, Saudi Arabia?

>>91368560

they arent subliminal, they are as clear as writing a Leviticus verse and writing a famous date related to that quote.

In his case it was a text about not accepting christians or jews as friends or leaders, and a date about a demonstration of islamists against the christian governor of jakarta (a person you shouldnt accept as leader in a muslim country like Indonesia)

>>91368605
>He doesn't understand how clickbait works
OP doesn't get anything out of you clicking that, its like calling a particularly striking 4chan thread clickbait.

>>91368560
My original claim is that he didn't deny it.
Maybe he didn't put it in there with any malice, but apparently Indonesian readers noticed it pretty overwhelmingly.

That's not what subliminal means. When some edgy shit writes 88 on a wall, he's not actually trying to convince anyone to become a nazi, he's just expressing how much of an edgy shit he is.

>>91368560

I'd give you the 212 could be a coincidence. putting 14 in a comic doesn't mean you are a nazi.
But 5:51 is not a 'regular number' you immediately think of verses. QS 5:51 having that meaning is a little too much of a coincidence, don't you think?

>>91368268
adrian syaf, the artist, isn't denying he did it on his facebook and supports these 212 protests going on in his home country. i checked it out earlier, it's legit.

>>91368187
i don't think he'll get fired for this. muslims have achieved ultimate dindu status.

>>91368389
he's been around for awhile now, and made name for himself at marvel.

/pol/ was a mistake

>>91368337
>equating a silly joke to scripture that literally says to kill white people for God

Stop being a faggot

>>91368640
Doesn't the op get more views to his thread on reddit? Thereby increasing the chance of getting more of whatever the reddit equivalent of (you)'s are?

Yeah, no thanks, I'm not getting baited onto reddit.

>>91368628
>Saudi Arabia
Why would you pick pretty much the worst?

Tunisia or Lebanon are better examples.

>>91368588
>Not in any place of the world that actually matters

It does in the world of comics. Which is why it's posted here.

>>91368471
they're going to star having G Willow Wilson start QC'ing Syaf's work

>>91368679
>white people

Anon, come now.

>>91368618
Hopefully by some miracle someone would look it up and convert/right their wrongs.

>>91368681
Do you think you're going to accidentally make a reddit account and upvote him? This argument is stupid, you tried to discount the OP by implying the story was click bait and thus worthless and now you're backtracking.

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>>91368673
>muslims have achieved ultimate dindu status.
Yeah that's why they're barred entry to the US regardless of if they commited any crime.

>>91368673

He is not even that good. I'm reading the issue rignt now and half of the time the characters have crossed eyes. I hope he gets fired.

>>91368678
I'm not even /pol/ and I hope this fucker gets fired. If a Christian, Jew, Satanist etc had done this I'd also want them to be kicked out.

>>91368681
That's not how Reddit works, it doesn't rank you on views, it takes you on how many people upvoted your post.

>>91368701
Yeah, its much more inclusive than that! They shouldn't associate with anyone who's not muslim; whether white, black or brown.

>>91368689
Only not really, the majority of comic readers aren't going to understand or care about the reference
>>91368704
You need an actual account for reddit? Why do people go there?

>>91368628
>They're the most moderate majority country out there. What other country are you going to pick, Saudi Arabia?
Saudi Arabia is a fucking shithole and very fundamentalist, what are you on about?

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OP here, again, it's no biggie if you don't believe it. Or you don't think it matters one bit.
I'm not /pol/ling around. And I also didn't write the reddit thread.

Pic is not related.

>>91368688
Saudi Arabia is not the worst muslim majority country. Saudi Arabia both has a functional government, some veneer of laws, and isn't going to eventually be bombed by the United States.

I'd argue that the various shitholes in africa are the worst.

>>91368723
Exactly. Making it about white people makes you(that poster) the racist as well.

Why leave out a large portion of the world.

>>91368337
>People who have different opinions as me should be fired.

There's a huge difference between making a joke that supports a candidate and wanting to kill the infidels.

>>91368756
We were talking about "nice moderate muslim countries". Saudi Arabia is in no way populated by nice moderate muslims.

>>91368742
If you've actually been on 4chan for more than the last 6 months, you would have passively picked up on how Reddit works just from everyone shittalking it, so you're either pretending you don't know to look cool or you're a newfag.

>>91368742
You need an account to comment in most palces on the internet, sometimes you have to use your facebook account.
That's why many people still come to 4chan.

>>91368742
Accept we do, so the discussion point is whether or not this should be allowed.

>>91368756
>Saudi Arabia both has a functional government, some veneer of laws
Both largely based on the Quran and a variety of muslim/tribal tradition. They're functional, but not moderate by any means.

>There are more people defending the artist on here then on Reddit.

Jesus, we actually are /co/mblr, aren't we?

>>91368673
>it's legit
Just like how Pizzagate was legit. I don't trust your conspiracy theories op.

>>91368795
Had the OP not explained in great detail what these numbers mean no one in this thread would understand them.

>>91368812
Sorry if we didn't buy into your witch-hunt.

>>91368823
So blatant racism is ok, if nobody else speaks your language?

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>>91368812
Yes, a couple of people having one opinion while other people disagree with it means we're /co/mblr, get with the times already.

>>91368716

Indonesia's not on the list IIRC.

>>91368812
more like pol/co/mblr, the 2 spectrums of facism in a single board

>>91368812
/co/ is unironically the most tumblr 'major' board on 4chan. If you post that cuckold comic on any other board, you get everyone laughing and shittalking it. If you post it on /co/, you get two thirds laughing and shittalking it and one third explaining to the shitlords how its a legitimate fetish.

>>91368678
/pol/ is love

>>91368836
It's not blatant at all though.

>>91367920
What average person would even pick up on that shit?

>>91368823
Indonesian readers would, they're the ones who apparently originally called him out on the Indonesia subreddit.

>>91368823
And I still think OP is bullshitting us.
212 is a New york area code

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Anons, Tony Stark himself would be ashamed of you.

>>91368847
You've obviously never been on /gif/

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>>91367920
OP.... there's more to it than that

>>91368812

We're just being rational about it.

So far, no evidence has been presented that what OP claims is what it actually is. Until such evidence is brought forth, this just looks like an unfair smear, and we have bigger things to complain about.

>>91368821

Are you mentally retarded? Go to his facebook and the guy clearly supports the 212 movement. No one is saying this will brainwash people into becoming anti non Muslim, it's just a fag trying to sneak his extremist beliefs into a comic and if this was a alt righter putting shit like 88 or 14 he would get fired right away.

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>>91368812
You haven't figured out /co/ is a magnet for people who want to trigger you guys because you take to it so well? Cause since the BatGirl at Comicon shit this is every day for us.

How to trigger /co/:
Pudgey female characters. (Males are fine because we're sexist as hell.)
Reference to Islam (Other religions are fine.)
Brown people or women being uppity
Something we can possibly turn into being anti men or anti white because we're hypocritical.

>>91368835
>>91368838
So how blatant must your messages of religious hatred in superhero comics be before any action gets taken against you?

>>91368867
What's QS 5:51 referencing?

>>91368821
i'm not op. i like my pizza with lots of toppings

>>91368836
Pretty much, yes.
>>91368861
>Indonesian readers
I wonder if this just started as one person and it just snowballed along? I'm betting that's what's happening.
>>91368867
I'm pretty sure you're right anon.

>>91368594
"Friends" as we non-muslims consider them, or just non-muslims they are forced to deal with daily, so they try to act as nicely as possible in order to not make unavoidable interactions unpleasant?

>>91368873
I'm excluding the porn boards where people genuinely have the fetish, I'm talking about
>Gosh shitlords, don't fetish-shame, I thought we were better than this, what would Rebecca Sugar think?!

>>91368823
But some people had to have so we could have this discussion.

>>91368867
He was bragging about it on his Facebook apparently.

>>91368893
That's entirely Marvel's decision at this point.
Not sure why you're replying to me though.

>>91368885
I don't know what the 212 thing is and I certainly don't trust you to tell me.

>>91368838
that guy looks familiar. is that goyer?

>>91368919
One person complains to two people, who complain to two more people and so on. You see how this is working right?

>>91368628
>What other country are you going to pick, Saudi Arabia?

>capital punishment for apostasy, atheism, drug use, adultery, homosexuality which can be carried out by by beheading with a sword, stoning or firing squad, followed by crucifixion
>no political parties allowed
>no freedom of the press
>women cannot drive or do pretty much anything without the permission of their male guardian

Nice moderate country you got there.

>>91368914
Nobody posted shit like that in any of the numerous threads. People did say that they didn't see it as the downfall of the West, for sure.

>>91368924
Sounds like he was holding you to your ideals and standards, a fair question. not sure why you didn't answer him.

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OP here again. Believe it or don't.
Draw your own conclusions.

>>91368914

> /co/
> where people want to fuck cartoon characters of all shapes and sizes
> understanding that a weird fetish doesn't actually hurt anybody unless you're forcing an unwilling participant or doing that shit in public

god I wonder why

>>91368924
Okay, how blatant must your messages of religious hatred in superhero comics be before *you* think there's anything wrong with it?

>>91368882

QS 5:51

https://quran.com/5/51

>>91368906
>I wonder if this just started as one person and it just snowballed along? I'm betting that's what's happening.
Probably, yeah. So?

>>91368932

What? You don't have to trust me. Google it. and then look at Ardian Syaf facebook.
If it wasn't for the QS 5:51 I'd not have believed it either. But twice is not a coincidence.

>>91368943
Okay? So your argument changed from.

>No one understands it.

to

>One person understands it, so now it's circulating so everyone does.

Glad we can both agree it's something worth talking about.

>>91368954
No shit, no ones crying into their cereal, its stil /tumblr/ as fuck to get upset when everyone has a good laugh at the cuckold comic.

>>91368956

A reference that doesn't require me to either be personally part of a social movement or have a degree in religious studies.

>>91368975
And I suppose the non-muslim Indonesians who pick up X-Men and find messages suggesting they shouldn't aspire to be anything of value in their country because they're infidels, that doesn't matter? Is it because they're a minority, or is it just because it doesn't affect you?

>>91368979
I've been on this board for longer than tumblr has been a thing. I bet you sure as fuck haven't.

>>91368912
So nobody who's a muslim òf any denomination ever had a durable genuine positive connection to a non-muslim?
Is that your actual claim?

>>91368979
>to get upset

the board got upset because you can only laugh at the same dumb comic so many times. First thread? Yeah, it's funny. Tenth? Not funny and now we have to talk about the topic of the comic itself.

>>91369001
So what, faggot? I said this board is tumblr as fuck and it is. Go fap to encylopedia dramatica or something.

>>91368919
Well apparently you don't have to post any evidence of said bragging bit still expecting me to take everything on hearsay.

>>91369000
I think you're commenting to the wrong person m8.

>>91369013
>It's not that this thing is problematic, its just so boring...

The oldest line in the book.

>>91368914
Literally every weird fetish is okay here, shit that's much weirder than cucking. I think you're misunderstanding the responses as specifically defending cucking when people do that shit with literally every fetish.

Not that I'm happy with that, but thinking it's only about cucking says more about you than it does /co/.

>>91368947
>your ideals and standards
What ideals and standards did I express here >>91368838 ?

>>91368972
I did google it and you're full of shit. 212 is a political protest cry against their president and it's a reference to a 70s fictional character.

>>91368991
Ahh, cool as shit, so you wouldn't mind references to how gays need to be stoned sprinkled throughout your comics as long as you personally don't understand them?

And even if it came out later, you wouldn't want anything to be done about it because at least the artist hid it well enough?

>>91368935
Yes.

>>91368956
I already think there's something wrong with this one. Again, not sure why you'd assume otherwise simply because I contradicted you "hurr /co/mblr" comment.

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>>91368855
i recognized the QS 5:51 as a muslim passage on colossus' shirt, and thought it was weird. didn't what passage though. didn't make the connection of kitty the jew and 212. that page, i caught the word jew next to kitty and chuckled, and assumed the 212 was for nyc's area code. later when say the other thread on this. hell of a coincidence, a jewish woman saying she is the leader of a group standing next to the 212, then finding out what 212 means in the Syaf's home country, and what the passage QS 5:51 is about. hell of a coincidence is all i'm sayin...

>>91369052

if you are somehow implying that threads about controversial topics don't go to shit after the second one or so (if they even last that long) then you must have starting posting literally yesterday.

>>91367920
OMG Alt Right found their version of being offended at people mentioning 14 or 88

>>91369053
>Literally every weird fetish is okay here
The day someone comes into a Dobson thread and starts lecturing about how inflation is perfectly normal and we're being shitlords will be sad day indeed.

>>91367920
Quick everyone! Break out the red lines! That won't make me look like a nutjob!

>>91368879
colossus got rid of his zangief beard and mohawk

>>91369102
Then don't open them? Why the fuck would the solution to that be to start defending cuckolding of all things? Your argument doesn't add up at all.

>>91369074
>212 is a political protest cry against their president
Opposition tried to make the governor election into a religion issue.
Incumbent governor is a Christian and not Malay-descent.
Conveniently, they tried to tie the issue to the current President. Trying a pseudo-coup of sorts, at least to undermine his electability.

Moral of the story, don't live in a third-world country. Stories like this are common.

>>91369052
Not even them but it's true though, jokes get old faster than ever with the internet involved and already low hanging jokes just get beat into the ground.

>>91368958
>Sounds like Leviticus
But in all seriousness, Never take religious text at face value.

>>91369103
So you'd be fine with people purposely slipping in 14 or 88 in comic books to signify how all other races are inferior?

>>91369122
>Why the fuck would the solution to that be to start defending cuckolding of all things?

> why is /co/ easy to bait

oh god, you really ARE new.

>>91368821

literally look him up, and look into the fucking imagery in that comic you stupid shit. its not a conspiracy if its in the open

>>91369145
>oh god, you really ARE new.

>>>/tumblr/

>>91368895
O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.

>>91369078
>Ahh, cool as shit, so you wouldn't mind references to how gays need to be stoned sprinkled throughout your comics as long as you personally don't understand them?

Yeah, as far as I'm concerned, you can put "jasjnadj" into your work and tell me it means "death to all queers" and it won't bother me because without any sort of context whatsoever it's just a bunch of letters.

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>>91367920
>>91368000
I guess he was triggered that he had to draw a jew protag

>>91369147
And we should care because...?

>>91369074
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/02/asia/jakarta-indonesia-protest-ahok/
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/indonesians-rally-governor-purnama-blasphemy-161202055726769.html

They are not simply 'rallying against the president' they are rallying against perceived blasphemy.
>He is currently standing for re-election as governor, and has faced attacks on his Christian faith, with some opponents claiming that Muslims were forbidden by the Quran to vote for him.
It is clearly a movement by extremist to try to take power from a more secular leader.

How do you explain QS 5:51? Why would a sport shirt will have that?

>>91369074
>212 is a political protest cry against their president
That's exactly what OP claims it to be. Or more accurately it's the governor of Jakarta
>Tens of thousands of Muslims gather in capital demanding Basuki Tjahaja Purnama be jailed for insulting the Quran.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/indonesians-rally-governor-purnama-blasphemy-161202055726769.html

>>91369165
Sounds like the kind of thing muties would preach to be honest.

>>91369104
You obviously haven't been here for that long if you haven't seen any inflation fetishists around.

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>>91369170
You don't need to.
As all issues, some will care and some won't.

>>91368560

How fucking afraid must you be?

Like there's literal proof that this guy supports terrorism and Muslim supremacy and you're saying it's nothing because you're afraid of hurting someone's feelings.

Hand in your balls at the office.

>>91369170
Nobody gives a fuck if you care, faggot. Just stop shitting up the thread with your passive aggressive 'stop talking bad about muslims lalalla' bullshit. If you don't care, don't respond to me, don't respond to him and do something you enjoy doing.

>>91369194
Oh I have, but I also don't see people getting butthurt when people make fun of Dobson for it.

Yet, anyway.

>>91369195
The only people who care about this are /pol/ rejects who are afraid of TEH MOOSLUMS. Sorry that your world didn't remain white and pure, but you lost that battle years ago.

>>91369165
Yeah I'm asking what it means if not that.

>>91369203
>TRIGGERED
>GET OUT OF MY SAFE SPACE FAGGOT

>>91368043
that's with statues, though iirc many muslims believe it also applies to drawings

>>91369170
because someone drew racist and xenophobic remarks under the radar, lying and potentially compromising marvel?

>>91368958
Syaf is getting shit on both sides of this. a lot of his fellow countrymen are accusing of being "an ally to them among you the indeed he is them." for drawing western capeshit and taking infidel money. that guy is about to have a shitty weekend

artist inserts his shitty beliefs in the work he's doing, news at eleven
have you fine gents heard about templeos?

So how is this obscure Indonesian political shit going to affect me in the long run?

>>91369223
>You have to be /pol/ to care about a guy who's putting subliminal messages in his book indicating that two large groups of people are lesser beings.

Sure thing Lefty/pol/

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>>91369223

Fuck the right off. I'm not /pol/ but I don't support artist doing shaddy shit like this.

>>91369176
>>91369177
>it's muslim extremist
Or it could be people protesting against what they perceive to problem in their government.
People have a right to protest.
>but what about the quran quote?
It's a warning against being too chummy with non-believers, something that you find in judaism and Christianity.

>>91369242
>Hanging around in a thread making a dozen or so posts talking about how you so totally don't care and have no opinion on the topic
>Gets told to fuck off to another thread then
HAHAHA TRIGGERED YOU xD

>>91369242
Ironically you're the one who looks like you want to get people out of your safe space by actively trying to shut down discussions that hurt your fee fees.

>>91369245
Something that has happened time and time. Just you care now because it's not your racism and xenophobia on display. How quickly the right becomes the left and starts screaming about racism and hurt feefees.

>>91369223
I don't exactly care, but I don't think it's okay for people to openly express hate towards other people through Disney-licenced comic. And the fact that it's thinly-veiled (enough so that people caught on it) doesn't really change much.

I have no issues with Mulsims in general btw.

>>91369201
>Like there's literal proof that this guy supports terrorism and Muslim supremacy
Uh no there isn't, there is proof that he's a muslim activist but not any proof that he supports islamism.

>>91369139
Show me proof it was purposely done

>>91369201
>terrorism
Well not that, no.
He's a shithead but he doesn't support terrorism, at least not openly.

>>91369266
Name one Jew artist and one Christian artist who blatantly put that shit in a major comic by Marvel or DC.

>>91369245
But are they truly controversial remarks? What do you know of Indonesian politics that you so easily accept that idea that he's a radical muslim.

>>91368212
You're ten thousand years too early to try and take ME down, kiddo.

>>91369274
>Not offended by this and aren't emotionally reacting to something.
>You're offended and buttblasted because someone put stupid shit in comic books and are crying about it being in comic books deflowering them.
>HAHAH YOU WANT THE SAFE SPACE, NOT ME! HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA. GTFO FAGGOT

You ladies should just start wearing flannel and hoop earrings.

>>91369279
what? I'm not even american.

hiding political undertones from your co-workers are inexcusable no matter what.

Does anyone have an archive link to his Facebook.

Because he deleted comments supporting this.

>>91368958

And why does QS mean Quran?

>>91369258
The guy who made TempleOS didn't sneak it in existing operating systems he doesn't own.

>>91369323
I'm Indonesian. Using a Quran verse to stop people re-electing a competent governor just because he's not a Muslim sounds pretty radical to me.

why don't you bomb more syrian civilians if you're so mad, america

>>91369335
More like.

>This is a topic we should be talking about as it is rather major.

>N-N-NO! DON'T TALK ABOUT IT! RREEEEEEE, IT'S NOTHING!!!!!

>>91369266

What problem? Read the articles.
>opponents say that the Quran prohibits them from voting for the Christian candidate
>Christian candidate quotes Quran and says that people that claim those who vote for him will go to hell are liars
>somehow this is blasphemy and Islamist groups are protesting this

You really don't see what's wrong here?

I don't know the bible so I don't know about verses that call for the deaths of other religious groups, but I would be equally pissed off if a comicbook artist 'sneakily' put it in a book where it doesn't belong.

>>91369378
Why would the US need to bomb Syrian civilians when Syria's already doing the job for them?

>>91369352
Guessing something like quran scripture?

>>91369297
Really? 'cause Daredevil draped himself on a cross which could be offensive to Christians. Colossus was from a false Russia where apparently the only technology present was industrial-era tractors. Storm was a primitive African who didn't know what a shirt and shoes were and was celebrated as a goddess by people who apparently were too stupid to know better. She also needed to be saved by a white man.

Any of these things can be considered hatred towards people if you twist it enough. If anyone is going to demand its acceptable to draw Mohammed even though it is hateful to do so, they can't then demand no hatred elsewhere.

You, and others, only care because this hatred that you see is from Muslims to Jews and Christians. It's against you, and that makes you break out the -isms, rainbow dye, and tumblr posts.

>>91369266
>It's a warning against being too chummy with non-believers, something that you find in judaism and Christianity.
Right, but that usually isn't referenced in cape comics, let alone those where they've been pushing the diversity and acceptance message for decades. And if they are, it's by Apocalypse, or Magneto. You know, villains.

>>91369357
>I'm Indonesian
I'm sure you are.

>>91369352
S stands for surah. The individual chapters of the Quran.

>>91369356
only because he's too insane to be hired

>>91369394
No, sounds exactly like what the religious right do.
>and those are the moderates.

>>91369392
You can talk about whatever you want, Downie. I'm pointing out that you're shitting yourselves in Sarkeesian-esque style and that it's silly to react viscerally to something that is not remotely major. The same way that others would laugh at microaggressions, I'm laughing at you.

>>91369394
I don't think there is one in the bible. Maybe in the Old Testament, but the point would be moot since those laws are undone in the New Testament.

>>91369429

And yet the SJWs want to court the muslim version of the religious right.

>>91369417

Alright, I'm appeased.

>>91369429

>religious right do.
Who?
Also nice whataboutism.

What does this topic have anything to do with reddit? You could've posted the pic without linking reddit. Literally Kys.

>>91367920
Just tinfoil hat nonsense. This doesn't mean anything.

>>91369404
>Daredevil draped himself on a cross which could be offensive to Christians.

How is that offensive?

> Colossus was from a false Russia where apparently the only technology present was industrial-era tractors.

Poor farmers don't exist?

>torm was a primitive African who didn't know what a shirt and shoes were and was celebrated as a goddess by people who apparently were too stupid to know better.

She has control over the weather, that sounds like a pretty good reason to me.

None of these scream offensive. However, putting in a verse saying two large groups of people are lesser beings? Yeah, that kinda is.

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>>91369502
OP here.
Because the reddit link contains a more thorough explanation.

>Literally Kys.
I won't. You're going to Hell for that.

>>91369404
And yet none of those openly *preach* for hate and disdain of other humans, they're just clumsy and/or lazy representations of those specific demographics, problematic if you will.
It's more comparable to Kitty having a conspicuously Jewish nose in this book compared to other artists.

Nobody is demanding Marvel artists draw Muhammad, and none of this controversy would exist if that artist put those references in work that he owns rather than in Marvel comics.

I'm neither Jewish nor Christian, I just don't like open discrimination whoever the target. Nice ad hominems btw.

>>91369536

You could have just copy pasted it and saved everyone the trouble.

>>91369517
>it doesn't mean anything I swear! Total coincidence!
the generic defense force against mudslimes.

>>91369429
So?
I'm amazed by how often I have to say that because some people act like retards isn't an excuse for others to act like retards.

>>91369186
>>91369186
they have put their kind ahead of the greater good in the past. granted it's usually because they're on the verge extinction, except for the time when Morrison was running the show.

>>91369438
No, you're trying to shut down discussion.

Also, I wouldn't exactly call this a microagression.

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>>91369556
Then I'd need to fix the formatting. Too much work.

>>91369459
No, they want to court the liberal muslims.

>>91369536
How is it that none of your pics aside from the OP have been /co/ related? Somehow I get the impression that you're not from this board.

>>91368481
Holy shit, we should totally do it. Can someone name a few clickbait websites? I only know of daily mail

>>91369581

They're doing a very poor job then since they defend half the shit they attack the religious right for just because a muslim does it.

>>91369586
I'm not. I usually hang around /a/, /adv/, /ck/, and /fa/.

>>91369477
It's not whataboutism, the muslims and religious right are extremely similar, especially when it comes to our extremists.

>>91369586
What does it matter if he's from this board or not? His discussion is still very on topic.

>>91369608

The difference is, one of them is out there causing mayhem and destruction. The other are for the most part impotent.

>>91369557
Wouldn't it be defense force FOR mudslimes, dipshit?

>>91369586
>Don Bluth
>not /co/

>>91369608

>our
I'm not American buddy. I'm from an actually secular country. So I find anyone 'rallying' about blasphemy from the president not justifiable.

>>91368678
/pol/ is better than this shithole has ever been

>>91369702
Nah.

>>91369229
it means that muslims are not friends with jews and christians. allah turns their back on them, and the muslims who hang out with them.
more extreme interpretations say it means not to be ruled by infidels. one can interpret this passage as a reason the why the mostly military age syrian male "refugees" that are actually mostly from other muslim countries chimp out and act like savages when they reach west and get all their free shit.

The point is, never trust a devout muslim, as they are permitted by their faith to lie and murder if it furthers the cause of Islam.

>267 replies
>51 posters
Really makes you think.

>>91369702
Only when it was /mlpol//.

>>91369737

If there's anything GOOD about Ms Marvel or DC's Muslim Green Lantern, is that they don't give that scripture the time of day.

>>91369378
You're thinking of russia. There were no casualties in the US strike.

>>91369737
You literally can't read or follow a reply chain.

I know it means that, I originally was replying to someone who though 212 was just a NY area code and asking them what they think the other reference is.

>the mostly military age syrian male "refugees"
I know /pol/ loves that meme but 46% of Syrian refugees are female, and there are children too (no, not just obvious adults disguised as children).

Sorry, OP, /co/mblr would only care if some artist put 1488 in a book

>>91369777
People feel strongly enough about this topic to reply to people who've replied to them?

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>Islam

>>91369877
More like /co/ just doesn't give a shit, other threads with similar number of replies has over a hundred posters.

>>91369606
/co/mblrinas are pretty dense. don't take it personal, most of them are just kids

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>>91369404
>Russia where apparently the only technology present was industrial-era tractors
So it was pretty fucking accurate.

>>91369922
Don't you mean
>more like only a small part of /co/ gives a shit
Which is fine

>other threads with similar number of replies has over a hundred posters.
Of the 12 top threads with 100+ replies in the catalog, only 3 have more than 100 posters. And that includes threads with 400+ replies.

You're extrapoling the "it's just OP samefagging" method wrong.

>>91368274
More's the pity.

>>91367920
Lol, the reddit thread is removed.

>>91369404
>>91369404
>'cause Daredevil draped himself on a cross which could be offensive to Christians.

This is where anyone reading the post should've stopped reading the post.

>>91369139
I'm sure you're fine with being another flavor of the oversensitive Tumblrinas.

Do you need a Trigger Warning in your comics buddy?

>>91368678
/pol/ is a board if peace

>>91368681
You don't have to go to reddit to understand the issue talked about. I didnt click on the link but I've read the thread. Stop being autistic.

>>91369536
>relying on reddit to make argument for you
Are you really refugee from /pol/ after last week?

>>91368742
I'm glad your stupidity is keeping this thread bumped

>>91370134
You should be glad. The reddit thread was just removed.

>>91369429
>We can't complain about these faggots over here because there's still those faggots over there

Hey Ardian if it's any consolation I was more distracted by the confusing panel layout

>>91369786
that shit was awesome. i couldn't believe the amount of nazi ponies being posted. bronies are weird fuckers, but they're fun. i'm kind of curious if the 4th Reich has risen in /mlp/ yet.

I like how even Neogaf isn't OK with this, but /co/, proving how /tumblr/ it truly is, is standing up for this.

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I'm assuming he's already got several future issues completed as well as a few more still working on

Has Marvel ever taken an artist off a major book in the beginning of its run?

>>91368594
I'm a Muslim, and I'm currently studying a health care course. There's one other Muslim on my course, and he and I don't really get along. No bad blood, but he's a weirdo. The people on my course that I do hang out with are non-Muslims, as are the majority of people I work alongside at placement. Before I started my course, I used to work in hospital and many of my colleagues were non-Muslims. The only reason I would not have hung out with them is because they're closer to my parents age, than mine.

My social group is made up of plenty of non-Muslims; Christians, Hindus, agnostics, and even atheists. The last friend I hung out with is a white girl.

I actually wonder how many of you even know a real Muslim. Not know of, but actually personally know.

>>91370277
But the quran says you can't be friends with jews and Christians.

>>91370277
My brother's wife and her family are Muslim (Bosniaks).

But get this they're only actually Muslim when it serves a purpose of pissing Serbs off.

>>91370277
Only guys I really talked to were Kemalist Turks. As in pro strong state, against religious entanglement. One wants to join the German armed forces and toss out the Turkish passport because he is strongly opposed to Erdogan.

>>91370258
>/co/ beat both reddit and neogaf in the sjw game
Time to nuke the board

>>91369170
>nobody cares about me, why should I care about anything?

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>>91367920
>I've not been on 4chan in awhile; why did I ever stop browsing it?
>Oh, it's worse than I remember.
Bye.

>>91370258
You can only be outraged by so many things before you ask yourself if you shouldn't be sketical.

Random side-character gets race-swapped for the movie adaptation:
>reeeee fucking Holywood JEWS putting niggers in my comic book movies
Guy put subliminal political message about how he hates christians and jews:
>do you have proof, idiotic /pol/tard? Always triggered by muslims, uh?

This board is so confusing.

>>91370432
Maybe it is different people senpai. That said the anon continually refusing to accept the 212 thing and Quran verse is clearly a troll.

>>91368594
I grew up in DC with a bunch of Muslim kids whose parents came over in the 70s-90s. Played Halo at one of their houses like every day after school (couldn't afford games at the time and we were cool as fuck). Not that I never fought with any of them, but it was never religion-based dispute.
I'm aware drama with roots in Islamic fundamentalism happens in the US, I've seen plenty out-of-towners with signs about killing Jews and gays and non-believers, but I can't think of a time something like that happened in my area and I wonder why it's an outlier when there's so many fucking Muslims living there.

>>91370432
I imagine the people crying about the race swap, are the same people who are anti-Muslim.

>>91369223
Disney will care about messages of exclusion being slipped into their product. He'll be fired.

>>91370481
Only if this gets enough media coverage. Reddit thread is already removed.

Something that's not too clear to me. How is simply referencing a verse of the Koran supposed to be anti islamic? Even if it's something commonly focused on by fedoras or haters, it's still just a direct citation to their holy book.

>>91370509
I wonder (((who))) is behind it.

>>91370277
This guy >>91368594 here. I was trying to point out that many mulsims do have non-muslims friends and coworkers (like some of my friends and coworkers who are muslim but still hang out and work with me), maybe I worded it wrong.

>>91370523
Read better, it's anti-Jew/Christian/Non-Muslim.

>>91369404
None of those things are offensive, Arif

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>>91369223
1.I don't like hidden agendas in my distractive media like movies/games/comics/etc...

2. Same people that are causing #1 are trying to bring about a muslim crusade or trying to get everyone pissed off at each other for some reason.

3. Why the fuck is it everytime something doesn't agree with the happy global peace thought that /pol/ gets blamed, people outside of there can have the same thoughts cause globalism and peace suck ass.

>>91369840
i'm not real familiar with ms marvel, but simon baz always seemed pretty normal. johns (who is part lebanese) based him partially on his own upbringing making him a lebanese dude from dearborn, mi. a suburb of detroit. growing up in the detroit area myself, i can say the lebanese are the most populous and have been there almost a century. their muslims are pretty chill compared to most. lebanese christians (like Johns) are no different that any other christian american. they have awesome food too.

DC has a nice habit of treating their minority characters like people, and not props. Ms. Marvel's writer seems to have done a similar thing. I'm afraid that won't last once she decides to move on from the title.

>>91370553
Mods, trying to sweep any controversy under the rug? I wonder if we can get some clickbait site to cover this. That would be dope.

>311 replies
>65 posters
The number of posters doesn't really budge. Stop samefagging plese. It's clear the average /co/ anon doesn't care about this. Just let this thread die.

>>91370596
Yes, but it's still a part of the Koran. I mean if I started printing out Korans WITHOUT that verse, or asked that it be removed from future editions, or said that any part of the Koran was hateful, I would expect muslims to lose their shit, charlie hebo style.

There's no context saying that the verse is bad, or wrong, or anything in the book. It's simply the index number of the verse.

>>91370523
And printing it on a Russian Orthodox doesn't mean anything, either.
"O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people."
I guess we have a Christian who is an ally to a Jew there?
And does the author not call himself a Christian/Jew with this? He's working in one of the Jew-heaviest industries out there.
This shit makes no sense to me.

>>91370432
>subliminal
inigomontoya.jpg

I disaprove of this artist but that's not what "subliminal" means.

>This board is so confusing.
Only if you refuse to read all the people ITT who disaprove of this, or the people who don't mind raceswaps. It's almost like you need to be constantly told that /co/ is not a hivemind.

>>91369404
hello Arif

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>>91370651
Really gets the old neurons firing.

>>91369598
Bleeding cool, duh

>>91370481
He's a decent artist so I wouldn't want him fired, just have the editor pay attention to these details he puts in his books.

>>91370651
I never got this meme.

>>91370660
I thought Peter was a socalist athiest. I don't think he'd wear anything that edgy though. I could imagine him not knowing what is said.

>>91370651
>STOP TALKING ABOUT IT DAMN IT, ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE

>>91370463
Imagine how it is being a European who lives around muslims every day with no issues, but gets told by people that they're all out to decapitate me and the nice ones are merely pretending or don't count as muslims.

>>91370707
That makes even less sense, then.
Unless he's on an anti-Islam bent and wants to remind people of how shit their book is.

>>91370722
Enjoy your peace truck convoys, Sweden.

>>91369860
i spent 3 months in france last year. that's bullshit. i've dealt with those fuckers first hand. there are barely any women or children among them.

>>91370722
Yeah, I don't think I have seen a true Scotsman in my life, either.

>>91370647
As I've said in a previous thread, most minority characters in Marvel are handled in a similar way DC ones are, the notable exceptions are "muh feminism" white female characters.

>>91370676
They don't allow tips to be submitted from outside of the US.

>>91370651
Obviously 65 people care. That's about the number of posters in your average general.

>>91370760
They keep their women inside the house covered up, women who walk on the streets alone are considered prostitutes

>>91370722
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3s

So sick of hearing this >muh pissful mudslimes.

>>91370838
why the fuck do gays and feminists fight for them then?

>>91370760
So anecdotal evindence beats official stats? Is that only true when it goes with your narrative or in general?

>>91370873
Maybe stop talking with people who frequent muslims in everyday life, then.

>>91368129
>It's a dreadful shit thread because it's critical of Ahmed
I wonder if it's peaceful being this fluoridated

>>91367920

Why did she give all that useless exposition to the police? Why in hell would they care about her lack of a nickname or her insecurities? Let them do their jobs in peace.

>>91370965
Guggenheim is a hack.

>>91370887
>>>91370838
>why the fuck do gays and feminists fight for them then?


That's a damn good question, anon.

>>91370887
Gay's that fight for them are a minority, most gay people want to be left alone, feminists are just mentally ill and think covering yourself and your kids up is something to be proud about

>>91370760
forgot to add that most of the women and children are still waiting in fugee camps in turkey. my source, muslim fugees. mixed bag that lot. some were pretty friendly, others seemed borderline psychotic. also, in 3 months, i came across 4 syrian refugees out of dozens that were actually from syria. they make no bones about it, an Eritrean dude told me that he and most of the people he came in with were only there because they were promised a place to live and free shit.

>>91370928
>obviously hasn't watched the video

bur

>>91370463
This, people think I'm a tumblrfag when I say that most Muslims I know are okay but in Northern Virginia they actually are; the valedictorian at my school was a gay muslim kid and there was zero drama with his family, yet we consistently get faggot protesters coming to the District calling for people to be beheaded. Is it the Unitarian presence? Is it mutual hatred of protest-tourists? I want to know why it isn't a problem here when everyone else says it's a problem where they are

>>91371018
Muslims who assimilate are fine. They don't assimilate in Europe. The US's problem seems to be that some kids of immigrants hate their lives and decide to go the religious equivalent of school shooter.

>>91371018
Cause there is a group of assholes being funded to stir shit up everywhere, who are they no idea but they are there.

>>91371080
>They don't assimilate in Europe.
Do you live in Europe?

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>>91367920
It's okay, they are not white straight males, they are allowed.

>>91370509
Indonesians are talking about on FB. At least one guy linked in the reddit thread has complained directly to Marvel. If Rich gets it, that'll snowball western market awareness.

surprised how Rich isn't lapping this up. And speaking of Rich, anyone have any idea why he just made a bunch of articles against Levitz? I mean now I'm seeing people thinking Levitz was a real bad guy

>>91371007
I've watched part of it. I've never claimed that all muslims were peaceful, or that the violent fringe is not a huge problem, or that they should not be portrayed as violent, so I don't really see how it applies here.

The original point is that, yes you can be considered a muslim and have non-muslim friends and co-workers and do fine with them.

>>91371107
No, but the situation can be looked at by all.