So who was the villain in this movie?

>>91358084
Their lack of communication

Time

>>91358084
No one. Max is the protagonist, Goofy is the antagonist, but there is not villain. Part of the genius of A Goofy Movie.

>>91358172
Today marks the 12 anniversary of this movies release

Growing up.

>>91358172
Sorry meant for>>91358084

>>91358084
There isn't one.

>>91358172
Just like Evangelion

Roxanne

>>91358257
>>91358195
>>91358172

This

>>91358267
I'd argue Goofy was. He completely jumped the gun when all he should have done was ask max what actually happened that day at school.

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>>91358084
Movies with no villains thread?

>>91358323
That seems like a huge stretch to call him a villain.

>>91358084
Childhood is idolizing Max, but adulthood is realizing that Hitler makes more sense.

>>91358284
Out of curiosity, what do you think would have happened if Gendo had been up front up to Shinji about his plan to use everyone and destroy the world to bring back Yui?

>>91358391
Fuck you, I expected Pete

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Goofy is stupid thicc

Bigfoot.

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>>91358434
Probably would have done the same thing that happened to him in EoE

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>>91358323
But wasnt it pete who was giving him the bad parenting advice in the first place and making goofy paranoid about the road max could be heading down?

>>91358323
Max should've explained his situation to Goofy, they're both in the wrong

>>91358172 got it right

>>91358434
Kid would be so desperate for some father-son bonding he'd go along with it.

>>91358284
GAAAWSHH SON

>>91359764
Pete wasnt giving him bad advice dumbass
He was teaching Goofy to be more assertive because Max was treating him like shit

Watch this scene and listen to what Pete tells Goofy in the hottub

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGJyCLRR9rc

Goofy Time

Technically Big Foot

And the retard teens outside Max's girlfriend who bullshitted him to lie in the first place

>>91361376
So was Pete really in the wrong here? Because yeah, he's not the best dad and sometimes he even stomps PJ, but the respect part he has a point

>>91358084

The glove compartment.

>>91361657
Pete has a very good point.
He's basically saying: "You can be a friend to your son, or you can be a PARENT to your son"

Be noted that Max was always being mean to Goofy throughout the movie up until that point

>>91358084
You.

Sadly your part was cut from the movie, because the makers realized that you suck.

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>>91358284
Anyone got any fanart of max in the robot (or at least Goofy doing the Gendo fingers?)

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How about...

SCIENCE SLUMBER PARTIES

>>91361376
Holy shit, I never saw this movie, that's... really fucking good. The animation is fluid, the jokes are funny, and they even manage to pull off drama? Why didn't I know, /co/?

>>91362546
Shut up you fucking toy dinosaur

>>91358084
Getting enamored with a loud world and letting it drown out your loved ones.

>>91362556
go watch the movie dumbass
dont worry about the sequel unless you want to fill up your rection folders

>>91362556
It's a seriously underrated Disney movie. I think not that many people gave it a chance because it's technically a sequel movie to a saturday morning cartoon.

But you should really give it a watch if you haven't.

>>91358084
inhibited communication between father and son.

I'm serious.

>>91362559
Inconceivable

>>91362868
It's an all too real thing, which is why it works so well. I loved the movie as a kid, but as an adult I can appreciate it further and realize that my dad and I shared a similar relationship during my teenage years. I'm just glad we worked it out and that for the most part we can be open with each other.

>>91358434

Im quite sure that gendo plan stop when he fuses with yui. What happens next (the third impact) isnt exactly his problem.

But i would love tonsee a group therapy of the main cast trying to fix themselves which is the anime ending, but i want more

>>91358084
Bigfoot.

>>91358237

A little longer than that brother.

>>91361376
This movie was better than I remember.

>>91358084
popularity?

>>91358284
Max I need you to get in the robot, Ahyuck!

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Pete. Pic related.

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>>91363743
Shinji once he's in the fucking robot.

Gendo and Yui deserve the Parents of the Year award for their neglect and psychological abuse towards their son.

>>91361376
>....my son loves me.
>my son RESPECTS me.

Kino.

>>91362556
Because you're 14.

>>91361376
>>91361657
I had always been conflicted.
Was Pete supposed to be a "bad dad?" in this movie? Or just someone who was just too tough on his son? Or just a parenting style that didn't work for Goofy?

>>91364555
They were both extremes of different parenting methods, Your son should respect you but you should leave him enough space to develop a personality

>>91362556
the sequel is good too

>>91361760
Can you blame Max for being upset?

1) His dad yoinks him away without asking if he had anything planned for the summer
2) Hormones

>>91358084
Goofy, clearly.
https://youtu.be/edXVt2u5HZM

>>91358084
Hormones?

>>91364555
Pete was too harsh on PJ, but it made him disciplined
Goofy was more of a friend than a father to Max, and Max treated him like shit

>>91358084

Pete. He convinces Goofy to do something he normally wouldn't do to the son he loves. Max, who can't stand Pete, gets very annoyed when his dad, who he loves, starts acting like Pete. Max isn't PJ. Max has a spine. Max reacts like Max would to Pete. Shit happens. Goofy realizes that he was acting like Pete, decides Pete is an asshole and he would rather be Goofy instead Pete. Max loves his dad still, when things are cleared up, all is well again.

Pete is the villain because Pete is an asshole.

>>91364835
Yeah, "RESPECT MUH AUTHORITAH" parents either end up in a retirement home or murdered by their own kids.

>>91364835
Pete is correct about disciplining your child
He is too harsh with PJ, but he is in the right

>>91358084
Pete, but Max and Goofy were one another's antagonist

Big Foot was the mini-boss.

>>91364371
This reminds me of the microphilia comic strip.

It still haunts me to this day

>>91364903
Plus, PJ and Max got into some really crazy delinquent antics when they were younger during Goof Troop

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>>91358508
>>91358434
>>91358284
So Shinji and Asuka were a first one who "found themselves" and came out from unity soup?

>>91364937
Not a wounder given how retarded Pete and Goofy were in their parenting

>>91364903

There is a big difference between disciplining your child and what Pete does. Pete is a border line child abuser. Pete is very much a narcissist, and treated PJ like property. PJ is a classic scapegoat child, with Pistol is the golden child. Peg is an enabler until she realizes if she doesn't step in Pete is going to do something to PJ that will get her life fucked up.

PJ and Max are good kids, but do get in trouble. There is no reason for Pete to treat PJ like slave labor. Hell, in the movie he is treating PJ worse then he did in the TV series.

>>91364788
for a teenager no but mind you Max wouldn't go any where even if goofy asked.

>>91358084
Man, this movie and the series really cement Goofy as best character of the Disney trio. Donald is a close second. Mickey is Mickey

Why would any woman want to have sex with goofy? How come he scored?!

>>91366686
I remember there was an episode in classic era Goofy where he takes place of his wife for a day, and every service man kisses him. My guess he'd be just money provider and she'd throw him a bone once in a blue moon while having all the action on side.

>>91358172
FPBP

>>91366686
retard dick

This movie is the only animated Disney movie I can think of that felt like a real movie. Don't go screeching at me for saying that, you know exactly what I mean by this comment.

Sasquatch

>>91361376
Come on, Pete. There's a difference between respect and fear.

>>91366907
Emperor's New Groove

I always wondered where Mickey was in these movies. Fucker would set Pete straight and see through his bullshit in an instant. Why did Pete go after Goofy?

>>91364971
Yes. The two suicidal kids.

>>91367572
>Goofy has a son
>Donald has nephews
>Mickey has ???

>>91367634
A dog

>>91364555
Pete's a working father who makes sure his son knows how to earn his keep.

He's a dick at times and his business in used cars was pretty shady but he's still a go-getter that gets results in the right places. He's the type of character you loathe as a kid but makes more sense as you grow up.

>>91361742

And don`t forget its fiendish accomplice, the pencil

>Come ooon, uuuuse meeee...

>>91366907
I know what you mean. It's like if you were to remake it with real people, even with the songs, it would be, like you say, a "real movie."

>>91367634
Mickey has twin nephews.

Puberty.

>>91367848
I think Lilo & Stitch would've worked as an Amblin movie. It's original story basically was one anyway.

>>91367572


Mickey and IIRC Donald was in the crowd scenes in the concert

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>>91358195

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>>91361376
That cheese pizza makes me hungry every time

Think about Max's age. this is exactly the time all teens get rebellious and hate their parents. Plus the fact Max FINALLY got a date with his girl only to find out he's going to miss it and that she will go with someone else. I'd be pissed too.

Communication is clearly the villain as even Max thought the whole trip was only for the Possum Park

>>91366907
you mean that the setting and plot are down to earth regardless of the animal people

>>91368332
They were also trying to hitch hitch ride during the open road song.

>>91369196
He means this movie has no magical plot, exotic locations, talking objects, or broadway theme songs. Its about a father son roadtrip. very down to earth

>>91368992
That Roxanne makes me horny every time

>>91358288
>Today I learned the movie was animated in France

that fucking explains so much shit.

>>91358084
I watched this movie like 15 times, I wonder if I still do have the VHS

>>91366686
Goofy is a genuinely nice person, if a bit of a dummy. He'd get laid someday.

>>91364903
It's not just a simple scale of discipline. If your kid acts weird or unappropriately then a parent should also try to understand why. Empathy and all that you know.

>>91366784
>My guess he'd be just money provider and she'd throw him a bone once in a blue moon while having all the action on side.
stop projecting your fucking cuck fantasies onto a Disney movie

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>>91368992
>>91372258

It was their inability to see eye to eye

>>91375307
This. The whole conflict would've been averted if they had only listened to each others' hearts

It was the school principal. He was upset that no one was excited for his science slumber party so he took his impotent rage out on Goofy's family.

>>91358334
Nah, that cunt The Sun was constantly hounding them and trying to trip them up.

Also, the fucking UN blasting Santa out of the sky. So, grownups are the villain.

>>91358391
Max should've just told his dad up front . he was his own villain

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>>91364835
pete has ALWAYS been the villain

>>91368992
my first boner as a kid, no lie.

Goofy, accept your kid is old, senpai, don't go to college with them and ruin their transition to real life.

>>91361760
Pete and Goofy's parenting styles were basically two extremes, and both had major flaws.

Goofy tried too hard to be Max's friend, and while they had fun, Max didn't respect him as an authority figure.

Pete, meanwhile, kept PJ, in his own words, "under his thumb", and while he kept PJ in line, PJ was afraid of Pete, and it was very likely that they never really bonded. Pete was less a person in PJ's life and more a presence.

>>91358084
It's a coming of age story. They are one of the few genre types that don't have villains, and barely have conflicts.

Though I think the first several posts are amusing or insightful answers as well.

This is the first I've ever seen a goofy movie thread on /co/

I wish we had more considering this is my favorite childhood movie.

>>91377583
Pete's less a villain in Troopverse, and more of just a jerk that has to deal with a one-sided friendship with an annoying but good-hearted idiot.

>>91361376
I still dislike this movie for being too fucking real.
It's fucking Goofy! It shouldn't be this real!
Fuck!

>>91378140
Well it fits his original character, remember how goofy use to be a everyday man and the shorts showed him dealing with every day problems

>>91361657
he's in the wrong for saying that Max is a bad kid. But he was right to tell Goofy,

>>91378204
Truth, but to be fair there nothing extrange in parents criticizing each pareting style, i think is more like this anon said>>91377933 Diffrent styles of parenting Pete should just let PJ have a little more fun, but i can see he's trying to
toughen up for the future

>>91364395
Yui saved his ass so many times though.

>>91361376
Whose kid went on to become a success and whose kid went on to become a dirty beatnik?

That's right Pete, your parenting was shit.

>>91367818
Yea and in the end he was reduced to taking pictures of babies for a living. I am guessing that the IRS came knocking on his door after a few odd 'business expenses' during tax season.

>>91361376
Goofy's voice actor is really good.

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>>91358334

Technically, Thrax was really just a force of nature carrying out his existence. Hell Ozzy and Drix weren't really heroes but just doing what they exist to do.

If anything the real "villain" of the movie was Frank/The mayor's stupidity.

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>TFW this movie was Disney's best animated film of 1995, as opposed to the mediocre Pocahontas.

Too bad it's not labled renaissance due to being a "continuation" of a tv show. Same thing with Rescuers Down Under not getting labled due to being a sequel.

>>91358172
fpbp

>>91380388

>Best animated film of 1995.
Not counting Toy Story. GM was Disney's best 2D animated film of that year.

>>91378415
Did she really have a choice though?

>>91380388
They only don't count it because it was done in the Burbank studio.

Goofy's stupid racism

>>91358084
You were because you didn't connect with your father soon enough. Now it's too late.

>>91368992
>Bulge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDTZ7iX4vTQ&list=LLkAZqAoZT4rO8a46uBzIZsg&index=5

>>91358084
ROXANNE

>>91380272
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oJpcJeFmk0

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>>91380901
Too close to home...

>>91358172
Easily this, which makes it all the more satisfying when they finally begin to understand one another.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGvRQfycyxI

>>91364555
Pete's meant to be a dick but his parenting ideas aren't necessarily wrong in theory. The problem is that he goes way too far with it. He's more like a bully than a father and treats PJ more like a lackey than a son. Discipline and respect are good things to instill, but if your kid is acting cowed and almost afraid when they're around you, that isn't the kind of "respect" you should be aiming for as a parent.

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>>91380901
i actually get pretty well with my dad, thanks for asking senpai

YO, STACEY!

TALK TO ME, TALK TO ME, TALK TO ME BAYBAY!

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So what exactly was this nigg's deal?

Half of his seems he talks like he barely knows Max but then there's pic related scene where he's doing them a big favor and talking like they're good friends.

>>91398116
He really likes him some spray cheese.

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>>91358172
>>91358284

>>91361657
Yes. One good point doesn't cancel out bad parenting overall. There's a very important distinction between having your son's respect, and having their contempt/fear.

>>91364903
Pete's a narcissist, abuser. The discipline you meter out to a child should always be in their best interest. Pete makes pretty clear throughout the movie that his parenting style is more for his benefit than PJ's.

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>>91380901
FUCK
WHY AM I STILL HERE

>>91380295
That doesn't matter, because Thrax was personified and was actively malicious.

He was a villain

>>91380295
>movie ends with Frank turning his life around
>TV show starts with Frank as a fat slob sleeping in front of the TV

>>91358084
Movie critics.

>>91358084
The ego. Max was too into himself to appreciate his dad, and Goofy was more excited to take his son fishing, than to spend time in a way they both could enjoy.

Internal conflicts aren't great for "kids movies", so it bombed; making the writers the true villains. Roxie is best dog.

>>91364935
PETE TIME

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>>91358084
Max.

>>91362556
It's a really mature movie and I have no idea how it got made.

>>91398116
He was talking to the principal that way too, it was his shtick to act buddy-buddy with people to get them to drop their guard so he could take advantage of them.

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>>91384548
Roxanne was ready to go with Chad the moment it seemed like Max couldn't give her what she wanted.

You know it strikes me as a tragedy the sequel was not only worse but set so far in the future we didn't get to see the aftermath of the events of this movie. Would've been nice to see how Max's hope and optimism died when Roxanne dumped him for some reason.

>>91384548
YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT ON THE RED LIGHT