>Love is just a chemical reaction

>>91357679

Scientists believe in god.

>>91357679
I hate that phrase so much
everything is a chemical reaction

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>>91357709

Go away YMS

Is there a name for when a character is mistakenly believed to be the writer's mouthpiece by tons of people? Huey from the boondocks also has this problem if you don't watch that many episodes.

>>91357679
True so?

One reason why Interstellar sucks.

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>>91357734
Just do pic related.

>>91358164
I would do the same with people who claim reality is just an illusion.

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>>91357679

A chemical romance, you might say

>>91357709
used to anyway. and all do in a trench, as they say
>>91357679
of course in rick's case, you're supposed to not take much of what he says seriously. a lot of it, he's just convincing himself to get by in life having lost everything he ever loved
>>91357911
i mean, he was magruder's mouthpiece, but most of the writers, not so much.. which came out in a lot of great ways, like those pulp fiction guys. you can tell the writers loved those two and made them right more often than huey

>>91357911
the point about huey is that huey is wrong, thus he cant be a mouthpiece

>>91357709
A minority nowadays

Hey now, he might be on to something.

>>91357679
I love when people get insecure about their intellect, its cute.

>>91358302
This quote was the only good part of this episode. It really caught me off guard.

>>91357709
Anyone can or cannot unless you're in a 3rd wolrd country

>>91357679
i gave up on love, decided to focus on finding the wierdest porn i can get off to instead

>>91357734
Well people need to be reminded sometimes so their ego stops bothering everyone else.

>>91360041
Have you reached Tile Patterns yet?

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Morticia is the leading cause of my chemical reactions

>>91358164
Only a monkey would find this poignant.

>>91360103
It's not supposed to be poignant. It's supposed to cut through bullshit.

>>91358164
The problem with this is there are valid reasons to ignore pain just as there are valid reasons to ignore love. For example if you are alone and break your leg in the woods, you will have to ignore the pain and drag yourself back to civilization.

>>91357679
IMO, lust/infatuation is a chemical reaction. Love is a choice to stay with and continue to serve someone after the reaction has run its course.

>>91360229

That's literally autistic.

You're debating something that's not possible.

You will feel pain, and you will feel love.

That's the point of the comic. Chemical reactions are real.

>/tv/
>laughs at interstellar for implying love is anything more than a chemical reaction
>/co/
>laughs at people who point out that love is a chemical reaction
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>91357679
Its not that love as a chemical reaction is invalid(but rick is obviously flawed and goes against what he said here several times, shit manhe drinks and does drugs) but that you should reign youtself and not hold something so simple and shitty to such a holy stature.
>Tfw to inteligent for "comedy" burp burp

>>91357679
Go away Mr Enter

why do people pretend that Rick is the 'voice' of the show? The writers don't believe that love doesn't exist. Rick is painted explicitly as an asshole and even an outright bad guy.

>>91360282
Rick never said love isn't real, he said it is just a chemical reactions and nothing to fuss about, not denying it's existence but taking away the meaning of it.

>>91357679
This reminds me of that pastel manga, has a similar quote to this that I actually like

>>91357679
I mean hes not wrong, its basically biological hard wiring to ensure your species continues. But on the other hand, it does provide both social and developmental benefits. Its just that edgy fedora tippers will get carried away with the statement But then agian, I wouldnt know anything about love

>>91357679
A chemical reaction the never actually occurs in women.

>>91361644
lol

>>91357679
Everything in the body is a chemical reaction.
Hunger, the enjoyment in tasting butter, the need to pee, getting high

Signaling out love is stupid.

Love is a meaningless waste of time, though.
There is no possible benefit of tying yourself to some useless dumb whore which is all women are.
>b-but muh procreation
Yeah, that sure will matter 200 years from now on after you and your child will die

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>>91362675
I hope your edginess is ironic.

>>91358164
That's odd, usually this webcomic is a lot smarter than "NO U" shit.

>>91360290
Holy shit, I was just in tv as well
i wuv u

>>91358164
People are entirely aware that pain is a phyiscal response while some of them attach a whole lot of incentives to love.

>>91360290
interstellar made it a magical plot device that fixed everything which was stupid to say the least

>>91361644
is that the fucking mum from Home Movies?

>>91362860
The comic is observing that something being a chemical reaction doesn't render it meaningless. How is that "no u"?

>>91357709
The devil can quote scripture for his purposes.

Who gives a shit.

>>91360158
Ecept it's a strawman that he is arguing against. Saying love is a chemical reaction is meant to (pardon the quasi-pun) de-romanticize it. Most people can't even define love, let alone know what it is, beyond a good feeling, and because of this they tout it up as this magical, miraculous event. The reality is that it is indeed a chemical reaction that compells you to stick with a mate, breed, raise children and see your species survive.

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>>91357679

>>91363191
Philosophy aside, what is the edit referencing by asking Donald if he will fight or die?

>>91362826
>LE EDGY ECKSDEE
Sorry that truth hurts you.

>>91363060
Yes that is true, but remember, given the context of the show - Rick is an asshole who's just making up excuses for being a shitty parental figure. Since love is just a chemical reaction, I don't have to be a good father! Say what you want of Jerry's mediocrity, he's never shown himself to be a bad father like Rick.

Rick and Morty doesn't advocate for nihilism. On the contrary, it explores characters trying to find meaning in a meaningless world. The purpose of Morty's speech to Summer is that you shouldn't find purpose in Rick is that Rick represents a void of meaning in a meaningless world.

>>91360357
this

>>91360290
DUDE

4D GRAVITY ECHOES

LMAO

>>91358164

And...

Assault charges...

...

But hey, at least you showed up that one guy...

>>91363250
Indeed, but Rick isn't wrong in his statement, just the conclusion he draws from it. Just because something isn't a mystical thing, beyond humanity's ability to properly describe it, that doesn't make it any less real or a reason to seek it realized if it is what you value.

>>91363222
not sure if there's more than just the one panel, but I'd assume it means fight for the right to continue living/functioning, or die by yielding to the entropy of life and giving up forever

>>91363328
Way to show that fictional character whose boss.

>>91363337
You're gonna die regardless, but it is far more important to live knowing the truth (pleasant or otherwise) then to live an incomplete life out of synch with reality.

>>91363222
It's referencing philosophy. Specifically Nietzschean thought. The fact that nothing intrinsically matters doesn't matter - you fight for your own meaning. That is how you approach the state of the ubermensch.

>>91363355

Fictional character?

...

> Anon 1: "I hate when people do x."

> Anon 2: "You should do y when people do x."

> Anon 3: "If you actually did that you'd be slammed with assault charges so fast your head would spin"

...

Are you implying these Anons are fictional characters?

Are you a fictional character?

...

Am I a fictional character?

>>91363447
Nah, I'm fine with being a last man. We have better drugs. Blink.

>>91363469
You're about as good at the logistics of language as you are at formatting posts. Though I guess there's a lot of overlap in those skillsets so that's not surprising.

>>91363447
Yes but by realising that nothing matters you are freed from the philosophies that held you back and gain th realization that you are free to find your own meaning.

>>91357679
>focus on science instead

The two go hand in hand, if you have no love for humanity, the world, the pursuit of knowledge, scientific endeavours; fucking whatever, then there's no inherent purpose for you to focus on science. People aren't robots.

>>91363335
Yes yes, I agree with you. We shouldn't mystify romance. That, however, doesn't negate its importance. What Rick, and the guy in the comic are doing - this is SMBC we're talking about, he completely agrees with idea that everything is chemistry - is using that fact to justify something else. Most people who argue using that foundation usually do so to justify trivializing them.

>>91363513

Damn Anon, that cuts deep...

What did I ever do to deserve such scorn?

>>91363328
Who cares? The law is just a chemical reaction.

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>>91363524
You're likely a NEET on 4chan, so of course you're a last man.

>>91363481
>gain the realization that you are free to find your own meaning.
That statement means nothing. If you're free to find your own meaning, then you're free to choose the same meanings as others or to develop meanings that are identical.

Nietzsche was just saying to find meaning that is of this world, rather than relying on meanings derived from an idyllic other world, like religion.

>>91363648
We agree there, on finding meaning in the real workd. You also mixed up to whom you are replying.

>>91358399
WHEN I WAS

>>91363060

I think of it more like "Love is a chemical reaction. So is pain. That doesn't mean neither are real."

>>91358210
An illusion just is something that is incorrectly experienced by your senses.

How does making them sense pain prove anything other than the fact that you are a dick?

>>91363051
Yeah, but the meaningfulness is again, just your opinion as a result of chemical reactions.

>>91363698
Yes, exactly, but it also doesn't make love this otherworldly concept and pain a lowly mundane event.

>>91357679
The thoughts that drove you to this conclusion were also a chemical reaction

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>>91363689
>You also mixed up to whom you are replying.
Fuck.

>>91361644
on the nekxt rek n' mordo

>>91363717
Yes, recoiling in pain when someone kicks you in the junk is totally an opinion. That's obviously how physiology works.

It doesn't matter what your cobbled together pseudo-reductionist philosophy tells you about body and mind, a kick to the testicles and a shot to the heart is going to effect you the same way regardless. I thought the point was obvious, but apparently some people have taken the deconstruction train down to the city of retarded half-thoughts.

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>When you realize Love is caused by a chemical reaction but is not, in fact, a chemical reaction itself
>When you realize Love is actually qualia, an irreducibly mental substance
>When you shake off the modern materialist paradigm and embrace Dualism

>>91357709
A good number of engineers believe in a higher power. I'm one.

>>91357757
Most angsty atheists end up being the first one on their knees when shit gets bad.

>>91357757
I always feel like the "X scientist/atheist prayed before he died" sort of points are stupid.

It doesn't really say anything about the existence of God, or even the logic of the person who is refuting God in the first place... just more along the lines of "humans are fucking afraid of death". The exception would seem to be martyrs, but people only martyr themselves if they believe that they gain something from it.

>>91363809
>engineers
>scientists

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>>91363809
A disproportionate amount of terrorists are engineers as well.

Also,
>>91363825

>>91363790
This guy gets it.

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>>91357679
>Assad really loves his people

>>91363735

Nihilism and deppression are also chemical reactions

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>>91363970
Why are the best jokes the ones that take you a few seconds to get?
Not instantly, not after 10 seconds, no that good 3-5 second range is perfect

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I hate living in the modern world.

>>91363809
>"higher power" wastes time shitposting on /co/

>>91364524
I love how much I messed this thread up by saying scientists believe in God. It's hilarious

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>>91364577

It's funny because there is a great misconception about Academia. Many believe there is a general consensus on the subject of God, spirituality, the after life, etc. But no such consensus exists. In fact, in the medical field Theists make up a majority. Those who have done work on ESP and Near Death experience have been converted to believe in both Supernatural powers and the reality of the after life.

Oh well, but I guess they're just all quacks.

>>91357679
this show is just a pile o shit

>>91364641
>In fact, in the medical field Theists make up a majority.

wait, people who aren't necessarily scientists make up the standard spread of religious faiths? shocking.


>Those who have done work on ESP and Near Death experience have been converted to believe in both Supernatural powers and the reality of the after life.

bullshit. all the actual scientists say the exact opposite. just because you have a ghost hunter show doesn't mean you are a researcher

>Oh well, but I guess they're just all quacks.

yep, mostly.

>>91364797
Einstein pinkie quote is my favorite one about god

>>91364797

>I say ESP
>He thinks I'm talking about ghosts

Kek, "skeptic" doesn't even know the terms to which he's referring. Typical

Dubs are just a chemical reaction

>>91357757
>That episode
>Rick diving into the void to save Morty

Did it really all mean nothing?

>>91362935
I didn't think anyone on this board was still old enough to know what that is

>>91363809
>Most angsty atheists end up being the first one on their knees when shit gets bad.

You want to believe this, because you cannot conceive of anybody sincerely not believing as you do. But do you have any citation for it?

>>91357709

How many, versus the ones who don't?

>>91363809
As long as you don't believe that Genesis was a historical accurate event in Earth's history, I'm fine with you and I would like to have a drink with you.

>>91363059
>bad things can manipulate good things against you
this isn't news and works just as well the other way around. Doesn't invalidate scripture or its usage.

>>91364988
No, it's painfully obvious Rick likes his grandkids and all he says is smoke and mirrors because he's an emotionally fragile old man. There's no reason for Rick to drag along Morty other than to hang out with him, and it is implied that Rick showed up one day out of the blue, presumably to foster a better relationship with his family. In that episode where he dives in to save him, he says he wants Morty to grow up better than him, which is probably the reason he is taking him on the adventures in the first place. He additionally lied about Morty giving into his rage in the purge episode, with no other reason than to preserve Morty's sense of self.
>>91357679
Everything that Rick says should be taken as a grain of salt, and most of his lines are edgy shock humor. His hypocritical stance here >>91357757 shows that he's not the show's mouthpiece.

>>91365946

I still think his true beth/wife getting killed will be his origin story.

>>91357757
I still say it would have been funnier if Rick legitimately believed in God and his rant at the end of Anatomy Park was genuine.

>>91365956
None of the ricks are sure who created the first portal gun. It was probably c137, and so he feels directly responsible for a lot of shit.

>>91365978

I get that it may be all metaphor but he really really hates his other selves.

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>>91357679
S-SO WHAT, RICK? HUH? Y-YOUR STUPID NUGGET SAUCE YOU WANT S-SO BAD IS JUST A CHEMICAL REACTION, TOO! A-A-AND YOU STILL KEEP TRYING TO GET IT, ANYWAY! S-SICK OF YOUR SHIT, RICK! M-MAYBE THE REASON Y-YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT LOVE IS BECAUSE NO ONE LOVES *YOU!*

>>91357679
He's not wrong. But he's coming to a weird conclusion with that information. It's like saying you can't enjoy a good sandwich, just because it's made of atoms.
Our entire life is just a bunch of chemical reactions. Most people still seem to enjoy life, including Rick.
Just because a process is meaningless, doesn't mean you can't enjoy the end product.

>le "mechanical universe removes all meaning" meme
The 18th century called, they want their enlightenment back. Are we gonna have to go through another Romantic era to consider that life is more than just the physical stuff that it's made of?

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>SCIENCE!

>>91365967
>Rick and God meet
>They both think the other is an asshole

>>91366043
His point is probably that love is not important enough to chain yourself to some specific other people for your whole life and make each other unhappy because of it.

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>>91366183
>Spoony will likely never make anything even remotely approaching good ever again
Hurts right in my nostalgia

>>91358164
This is the major problem I have with these people. they automatically think they're above it.

>>91366315
Twitter addiction ruined The Spoony Experiment.

>>91357679
Only fedoras and children take this phrase to heart.

>>91363790

>Mind-Body dualism

Or as people who don't speak in weasel-words call it, magic.

>>91366315
I want to cuddle with the 'suzu.

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>>91365611
you can't disprove any part of genesis

>>91360270
My dude. The most sensible thing I've heard all day

>>91366522
ockhams razor

>>91357679
Passing chemical reaction. He elaborates that love is a passing chemical reaction.

>>91360270
Mostly this. The reaction is meant to fade, but true love keeps people together.

>>91366522

>you can't disprove any part of genesis

I can make up any number of fictional events or entities and you wouldn't be able to "disprove" any of them.

Fortunately not being able to disprove something is no reason at all to believe it happened.

And of course we can actually disprove genesis, but since you'll likely claim that all the evidence is fabricated I won't bother.

>>91366600
Anon.
Nobody cares about context.

>>91366600
>>91366611
>trips and dubs
>dubs
Checked my dudes

>>91360270

Making a choice is also a chemical reaction though?

If it's something that happens in your brain, then it's mundane and physical in nature. Thoughts don't become magical just because we assign meaning to them.

>>91366522
>you can't disprove
burden of proof on you though. so yes disproven until proven right.

>>91357709
they don't really "believe" it's just the social pressure of being born in a theological country in the first place.

>>91366620
Love is a reaction produced by IT or such.

>>91358164
But pain is a chemical reaction. It's not that you don't believe in the reaction, it's that you believe you should place value on it and go about halting or changing your entire life because of it.

When people say love is a chemical reaction, they mean don't get your panties in a twist and assume a relationship is the end all be all, because it's varying degrees of a mix of lust and liking someone. Similarly, pain is varying degrees of displeasure. You shouldn't put your whole life on halt because you experienced pain one time and you find it mystical for some reason. Like love, you'll probably feel it again, and if you want to feel it right now, you can use chemicals and drugs to simulate the feeling.

>>91366522
Genesis is literally self-contradictory, so it can't all be true.

>>91357679
Love is a battlefield.

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>>91366576
>>91366604
>>91366634
>>91366737
*tips fedora*

>>91366896
Meme posting doesn't help your case.

>>91366652
Oh stop with your oppressed minority nonsense. America is super atheist these days.

>>91357709
The majority of scientists do not believe in god. This is a statistical fact.

I know 4chan has to be contrarian and hate atheism now that reddit's picked up on it, but it is commonplace among the higher educated.

>>91366522
>you can't disprove any part of genesis

Actually, they've disowned their first album.

>>91366928

>Hollywood is super atheist these days.

FTFY

Why do both Conservatives and Liberals fall into this trap so often?

The people who make movies, talkshows and Netflix series =/= The actual population.

>>91358164
This is SMBC more full of smug dumb than people who say "love is just a chemical reaction".

>>91360282
>Chemical reactions are real.
They are, but that's beside the point. For instance, people are already quite pragmatic about pain management, but "love management" is looked down upon. If you tell someone you're trying to ignore, reduce or get over your feelings of love (or more realistically, infatuation that you call "love"), you are not going to get encouragement in response. No, what people typically will tell you is that you should embrace your feelings. They don't even consider if these feelings are objectively good or bad for your long-term well-being. This thread itself shows how eager people are to defend love. So when someone non-stupid says love is chemistry, what they mean is that you should be pragmatic about it.

>>91357911
>Is there a name for when a character is mistakenly believed to be the writer's mouthpiece by tons of people?
I live in terror of this happening to me. A nuanced character has mistaken opinions about things

>>91366928
>America is super atheist these days.

What the fuck are you smoking? Anti-atheism is more popular than it has ever been since the mid-90's.

Monotheism is a disease that thrives under persecution. The second Christians felt threatened by atheism our culture shifted to oppose it. That's why you see all this "le epic neckbeard fedora" bullshit the second anyone criticizes the blatant insanity and evil of organized religion. You used to be able to have a reasonable discussion about religion without religious people coming in to shit it up with their mental retardation. You used to be able to laugh them away.

>>91363469
Arent we all fictional characters in the dreams of a mad god

>>91367092
>trying to be rational with bitter virgins who probably never experienced love in first place
what are you doing

Are we getting the next episode today?

>>91367113
You ever consider that maybe you people are just awful?

>>91358210
this

>>91358164

This comic is idiotic and self-defeating

Everyone knows and understands that pain is mechanical and easily manipulated. If we feel pain we look for what exactly is causing it and then attempt to fix the problem.

Have a headache? Take a painkiller, drink some water, pain go away.
Cut your hand? Disinfect wound, apply bandage, take painkiller, avoid vigorous use of hand, pain go away.
Get kicked in the balls by smug pseudo-intellectual? Move away from assailant, apply cool compress to balls, file assault charges, pain go away.

But love? People treat it like it's quite literally magical as if it isn't ultimately mechanical in the same way, just much more elaborate. People act like it's something that just happens that you can't do anything to control and that even trying to is somehow morally degenerate.

Not to mention how concepts like "Fate" are so often drawn into the discussion.

>>91367179

Have you considered that being smug on the internet is an absolutely tiny moral crime compared to the shit that is routinely excused because of religious motives?

>>91357757
I like rare scenes like this that humanize Rick. I hope they don't overdo it in the next season.

>>91366652
And that gets swapped by peer pressure from/within an antitheological setting as is the intelligentsia.

Trends are to people what the wind is to sails.

>>91367211
Deep down, we all just want to be loved. Which means we want the hormones and drugs to be released by the brain when we are supposed to be in love.
Stupid brain, just give me the love drug hormones that are supposed to make me eternally happy.

Only science can give me love now.

>>91365989
because they abandoned their social connections to their families and proceed to form an entire society whether they jerk off to their own greatness.

>>91367257
i didn't realize i was on r9k.

>>91366043
The intent was probably to steer Morty away from his hopeless pursuit for Jessica's affection. Rick may have known the "love potion" was going to backfire and teach Morty a lesson somehow

>>91367218
Atheists and liberals go hand in hand, and the latter especially have labored hard for years to weaken institutions and reshape the social climate so it would benefit their political agendas at the cost of exacerbated partisanship, worsened racial relations, SJW culture, etc. So no, it's not just an Internet thing.

In fact, I find it funny how liberals and atheists can claim to be logical science warriors while reducing American colleges to anti-intellectual, feelings-centered safe spaces.

>>91358210
It's not an illusion, but it is a consensus.

>>91357709
and the Church was one of the drivers for more rigor in math

>>91366620
CANT PROVE THIS DOUCHEBAG

theres no reason to believe that the chemicals produce the choice. It us equally plausible that the choice comes first and the chemical reaction later, as a result of it.

Correlation /=/ causation BITCH

>>91367324
more like LIEberals am I right?

>>91360282
>and you will feel love.
wheredoyouthinkyouare.jpg

>>91360290
/tv/ wasn't invaded and infiltrated by tumblr years ago. That alone makes /tv/ the better board.

>>91367348
The Medieval Catholic Church did, indeed, encourage studying math and science as a way of better understanding God's creation.

I don't know as much about Medieval Islam other than it enjoyed the Islamic Golden Age, making many breakthroughs in math and medicine, and preserving and sharing Greek knowledge.

I'm certain other religions have similar histories.

I'm an atheist, but religion isn't all bad. It's also been important to liberation movements, like ending slavery in America.

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people will hate on this because it's true

>>91363531
Is it really that difficult in real life to be a scientist and a misanthrope?

>>91367400
Nah, /tv/ didn't need help shitting itself up. Even then, /pol/ faggots made sure to help, making /tv/ one of the worst boards on the site.

>>91357679
Well, yeah, it is.

That doesn't make it not beautiful or not worth pursuing for. A fact is a fact, but that's not the question. The question is what you do with said fact.

>>91367432
Why did you name that atheists.jpg when it's mocking people that feel the need to feel superior to both sides?

>>91366057
We're living a Second Dark Age, so who knows?

>>91366604
>I can make up any number of fictional events or entities and you wouldn't be able to "disprove" any of them.

Precisely. Facts don't exist, only opinions.

>>91363060
>i got rejected by a cute girl therefore love isn't real and everyone who believes in it is a un-edjucated peon as opposed to me

>>91367492

Only statements exist. We categorize them into facts or opinions based on our certainty in their truth value.

If you want to argue deep skepticism, you'll need to abandon your belief in the certainty of everything save the existence of qualia. The only way to avoid pure skepticism is to accept certain things axiomatically. If you accept axioms, facts exist. Even if you don't, the existence of qualia is an indisputable truth. Qualia is a fact. Facts exist.

Take your baby's first post-modernism back to your high school intro to phil class.

>>91367547
And what I choose to deny all of them at the same time?

>>91366604
>I can make up any number of fictional events or entities
and we'd both know that you made it up

the Bible is presented as proof because nobody knows for sure that it's made up, and as such it gains the same trust people put in history books

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>>91360067
Do you want to protect her smile or diddle her?

>>91367595

Then your view is inherently self-contradictory and can be dismissed without further argument

>>91367617

Why not both?

>>91363226
if life is so meaningless then why don't you kill yourself right now Mr. "i'm so intelligent and above human nature"

>this thread

you people

need

to go the fuck OUTSIDE

>>91367595

>Even if you don't, the existence of qualia is an indisputable truth. Qualia is a fact. Facts exist.

Denying qualia is paradoxically impossible. You can deny everything else. You can deny the external world, the existence of a persistent self, etc. It just turns out to be a philosophical dead end.

We are certain that we cannot be certain about most everything, but that doesn't really help us or move the conversation along. It's just something to be aware of.

>>91367641

No

>>91367641

the important thing is that you've found a way to feel superior

>>91366222
>God tries to be the "Kind father god" their entire conversation
>As soon as Rick leaves God sighs and calls Rick an Asshole

>>91363824
Dude but it happened to me. it's like a reflex. you are not really aware of it. It's like saying "Gruss Gott"

>>91367641
I was outside once, and it was awful.

>>91367636
Because Rick'd kill you before you could, which would destroy her smile

>>91367729
Good graphics, bad gameplay. 8/10. still a nice experience that everybody should try once.

>>91367626
Welcome to a world post-internet, then.

>>91367617
>>91367636

there is a reasın that Rick doesn't bring females in his "adventures"

>all this team fortress 2 shilling
make it stop you no talent hacks

>>91367688
>Rick continues to be a narcissistic dick in front of God
>God turns to Gabriel and starts bitching about Rick after he portals out

>>91367384
Underrated

>>91367334
They mean literal illusion not a approximation to reality.

Did Rick EVER actually say this? I don't remember it.

In fact he pointed out that the love potion stuff was 'fucked up' which would make no sense if really believed love was 'just' chemicals.

>>91367715
Because it's the baseline. Humans love giving up their autonomy in the face of challenges.

Doesn't mean the religious are right. That's like saying fat people have the right idea because humans are programmed to like sugary snacks.

>>91369507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGelJhg4B9Q

What he thought was fucked up was that Morty would risk fucking with people's chemical balance or whatever just in order to get some pussy.

Although Rick is certainly known for being hypocritical when it suits him

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>>91357679
>TFW scientists have found how to use magnetic interference/stimulation of human brains to alter perception of basic events
>TFW in an experiment, they altered people in a way that lead them to believe attempted poisoning was ok, because the guy accidentally didn't use the poison (mixed it up with sugar) "so it was alright in the end"

Yeah, every thought you have has a physical basis. It's real to you... but that doesn't mean that things like love transcend that.

>>91363191
Came here to see this, not disappointed.

>>91357734
It's also a lot like saying cars don't exist because they're just wheels and a chassis attached to an engine.

>>91367324
Liberal atheists fail at being atheists.
https://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/05/our-planet-is-infested-with-pseudo.html

>>91370055
Don't tell me you actually agree with that tripe anon

>>91367324
>not realizing that no matter what group it is, they like to create safe spaces.

>>91364988
>Did it really all mean nothing?
At the time, no, he genuinely cared.

Then the writers fucked themselves over and now after S3E1, anything he says will have to be interpreted as a lie. Don't know why they went that direction, and that episode was still good. It's just the show is now leaning way too heavily in the "Rick is actually 100% a dick" direction now.

This season might be like what Bojack Horseman Season 3 was like. Where you think they may have actually progressed as a character, but then they just revert and reveal they had no development as a character. Only difference is Bojack ended on a note which suggests maybe he'll start to develop. Frankly I don't expect R&M to touch upon Rick's garage rant except for 1 or 2 episodes.

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>>91367211
Love is an emotion, and the chemical process emotions undergo is an involuntary one. Those reactions can't be controlled (unless you're taking a pill or something). This is why when a loved one/pet dies, you feel like shit for a while.

The way Rick uttered that line made him sound like you're typical "I'm above love because I'm enlightened" person. Which is bullshit of course, because after Unity dumped his ass he got so depressed he tried to off himself.

This is also the point of the comic, because the kind of people that say shit like "Love is just a chemical reaction" are usually the kind of people that think they're above it. You gotta give the comic credit for not making the guy getting kicked a fat, fedora wearing neckbeard.

>>91357679
>>91357757
>>91361644
You know, I have this theory about the season premier, namely the real reason it was released on April Fool's: Rick didn't actually escape on his own. The second episode of the season will have him wake up, still in prison and the world still controlled by the Galactic Government.

And for the remainder of the season,
Rick actually ends up regularly blindsided and caught off-guard by his enemies because he keeps underestimating them. In otherwords:
a season which throws back all of Rick's own words at himself. Nothing he does matters because there's always a bigger fish, it becomes the darkest year of their adventures because Rick can't solve problems or just run away like he usually does, and generally gets humble pie forced up his ass.

>>91371082
Oh wow, look at this guy! He thinks he's so cool because he came up with a "it was all just a dream'" twist. Why don't you come with something original next time so it'd be worth the spoilers?

Fuck, the amount of newfags on this thread are staggering

>>91358164
because physical action is the same as a state of mentality. Its those kind of peolple that need to be purged.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdhNTOM5ESE
Japanese Rick and Morty is weird.

>>91372014
I actually think the voices are pretty spot on.

>>91372079
I don't think Rick's jap voice fits him
Also, here's goodbye moonmen in moonspeak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGeP3CoxypY

>>91372014
>Pupi Bathoru

That's all I needed

>>91372135
Eh, I can give this a pass because it's kind of a sequence that doesn't translate very well into japanese culture/humor.

>>91365946
he also killed jelly bean rapist`

>>91370811
did u even watch s3e1? rick doesn't like to admit that he cares about morty & summer but he obviously does, that has consistently been how he is characterized.

>>91363790
This is how I like to think of it. Whilst the initial trigger of the love response can be attributed to a chemical reaction designed to drive us to mate, what subsequently follows that chemical reaction is cognition. We rationalise this initial feeling of attraction by applying it to our own thoughts and ideals and we weigh up the other person's identity with our own. In that sense, love is very much a non-physical, intellectual process in that it requires us to find common ground with the object of our affections. In this day and age, we get to understand them on a level that extends beyond the physical and the chemical and that is ultimately what allows love to blossom into the magical force that we often propagate it as.

It might fade and it might waver, but I fully endorse the existence of real, intangible love that can't be explained away as pure science and logic. I'm nowhere near that cynical or egotistical yet.

>>91359185
Wow, my sentiments exactly

>>91363790
>>91373056

Experiments conducted a few years ago with thermal cameras proved that emotions exist in some physical form. The body heat of the subjects changed quite dramatically in response to the various emotions they were feeling. Love, fear, depression, happiness, anger, apathy, guilt, and so on. Depending on how they were feeling, their arm could be cold, warm, a mix or both, ect.

>>91363790
>he's not a nonreductive physicalist

Opinion discarded

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You know the revelation of love being a chemical reaction that's biologically intended to motivate procreation doesn't actually devalue the actual emotion.

It just gives it a backbone and grounding and not just "love is actually made of fairy dust and angel kisses" explanation. Love and romance still exist as they are and mean a lot emotionally.

People are missing the whole point, that Rick is a bitter lonely asshole who doesn't want to feel love and will take any chance he can get to take the piss out of it

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>>91357679
A chemical reaction is telling you that love is a chemical reaction, so by that logic it's automatically debunked.

>>91358210
I'm a reverse-solipsist. I believe that you are a Boltzmann brain and I and all my actions are just a memory you have during the instant of your existence.

>>91362675
Tip that fedora harder faggot.

>>91377377
As a solipsist I approve this. But it's a bit like patting myself on the shoulder.

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>>91357679
>>91357679

>>91358164
I hate comics like this.

>show caricature of a position you don't agree with stating a caricaturesque version of said position
>show someone delivering a counterargument which you clearly think is a powerful, unbeatable shutdown because you're a loser and would never get to use it in an actual discussion

>>91378964
That's basically every comic that has ever talked about a stance the author has believed in since the beginning of time.

>>91363809
>Engineers
>Scientists

>>91370764
>tripe

>>91378812
>>91377218
Mickey here actually fails at philosophy by confusing ethics (Donald's argument that it's chemicals, so nothing has intrinsic value) with epistemology (that it's chemicals telling us it's chemicals).

>>91379640
Just because it's been done for a long time doesn't mean we should just excuse it.

>>91357679
>A-actually M-Morty -burp- t-true communism has never been p-properly tried, all current "implementations" so far have been shortsighted facist dictatorships not properly led by the proletariat -burrrrp- w-which is why you shouldn't dismiss a government system that is perfect in theory, and never -burp- done in practice

>>91367750
The paid DLC is a bitch though

>>91357757
this episode bothers me, if there are infinite mortys and rick isn't above replacing morty (he grabbed the morty replacement coupon from the council of ricks) then whyd he risk his life for morty?

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pick your Morticia

>>91363696
A YOUNG BOY

>>91363696
A YOUNG WARTHOG

>>91380618

>Trust the chemical's word
>You were fooled ! Chemical isn't actually a chemical
>Donald's argument is down the shitter

Are you dense

>>91381762
Because deep down inside he cares about Morty, even if he's in denial about it. I thought it was obvious by this point.

>>91366939
>but it is commonplace among the higher educated.
Apart from this not being a sentence, you nigger, no it isn't commonplace, and you wouldn't know.

>>91370018
No, it's combatting someone saying that cars are metaphysical entities that give meaning to life.

You guys know everything Rick says is satire, right?

>>91363775
Illusions and opinions aren't the same thing though.

>>91385007
I don't think it's as cut and dry as that. I think Rick is only satire in the sense that he's the exact opposite of what would be expected of a cartoon character.

>>91381787
All of them!

>>91380618
It's nice that you know your words but ethics can still derive from one's epistemological stance

>>91385254
Like being funny, for instance

>>91385007
It's more like he's being facetious and wants to steer morty in a specific direction.
You shouldn't take the things Rick says at face-value, because he is a manipulative asshole who will say whatever he thinks is necessary to get his way.

>>91372014
Summer sounds hot

>>91372014
>arigato poopi butt holo

>>91371485

Kicking is an action, pain is a chemical reaction.

>>91357679
Going poopy is also just a bowel movement.

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>>91365946
>No, it's painfully obvious Rick likes his grandkids
You mean his new grandkids or his old grandkids?

>>91367477
>Second Dark Age
According to who? The "Dark Age" refers to a period with almost no historical records, meaning we have essentially no idea what happened during it, hence "dark" age. How the fuck can we live in an information age and a dark age at the same time? Let me guess though, the United States government has politicians you don't like running it?

>>91366939
You got numbers for me, smartass?

>>91367105
Rick is hardly nuanced.

>>91367409
If I ever meet you irl I will kiss you on the mouth.
T. Theist

>>91394662
http://www.pewforum.org/2009/11/05/scientists-and-belief/

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v394/n6691/full/394313a0.html

>>91366620
Everything's a chemical reaction in your brain, you autistic clownshit. Saying something's a "chemical reaction" or "social construct" doesn't invalidate the meanings people assign to them.

>>91360479
Except he isn't. Most people already know that love is (in part) a chemical reaction in the brain, they just CHOOSE to assign meaning to it. This is what humans do: we make meaning out of the world. Sorry that not everyone wants to regress to viewing the world entirely objectively.

>>91362675
By your logic, nothing matters unless you are one of the .0000001% of human beings that will become a historical figure. Do a backflip when you jump.

>>91363375
People place excess value on knowing the truth. I would rather live a comfortable life in ignorance with those I love than to die alone and in pain with absolute truth. For what good was the truth, if knowing it denied me peace and happiness?