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Isn't this classic supervillain logic?

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Isn't this classic supervillain logic?
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>>91314881
Yeah, that sounds like a villain's origin story monologue.
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>>91314881
No, it's pretty standard sociology.
you gotta learn the rules and how the world works as a kid so that you can fit into society
then when you grow up you gotta unlearn the rules so that you're cognizant of what your options are and you feel it in you gut that you can choose to stop playing whenever you want and that someone's failure to play by the rules isn't a failure at being a human being.

or to put it another way if your life gets too much you really can just pack and up go live innawoods or go backpacking or whatever, and going to jail over a mistake you made isn't the worse thing that can happen to you.

you've seen it too, havn't you? the massive guilt complex spread from end to end in western culture? white guilt, christian guilt, political guilt, yadayada. Unlearning the rules is a direct antidote to that kind of self-doubt.
none of what I said has anything to do with moon girl though, I'm just baked. dudeweed amirite?
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>>91314881
what dope means?
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>>91315164
You're saying /pol/ are supervillains?
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>>91314881
>mfw moon girl becomes a super-villain when she becomes an adult
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>>91315194
denotatively, a drug. often a performance enhancer.
contextually, "authority figures disapprove due to a belief it provokes rebellion and anti-social behavior" aka 'subversive in a way that I, as a rebel, approve of'
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She sounds the exact type of character tha'll try to unify the world with her great inventions but just starts new war
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>>91315682
"Told you she was dope"

Dope hasn't been used since the early 2000's
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>>91315189
why was this deleted?
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>>91315682
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>>91314881
>fight an oppressive system that keeps people down

>this makes you a villain

I guess if the Marvel universe were written by /pol/, this might be true.
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>>91315940
40 year old detected
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>>91316148
I suppose the one who gets to decide what's oppressive and what's not is her.
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Stuff like this just reminds me that more than any other kind of superhero the super geniuses are the ones that are incredibly useless. Superheroes have to preserve the status quo because "muh real world parallel" so it doesn't matter how smart Moon Girl or any one else is; they're never gonna actually change things for the better.
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>>91316175
A 40 year old would have developed enough taste not to buy into Blizzard's cartoon CoD trash.
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>>91314881
How long until Moon Girl walks the path of Rudy?
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>>91314881
I thought most classic supervillains preferred rules.
>the world needs order and only I can bring it!
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>>91316175
Why is it whenever people here aren't calling you underage, they are calling you an old man?
Wasn't aware I had to be a hip and cool teenager to use this site. This site is fucking old.
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>>91316092

I hope so badly that he comes back to face off against Heroic Dr.Doom.
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>>91316199
the trick is to change the status quo, but not here. go found new societies elsewhere in the solar system, but casually other writers don't think to blow them up or shock value
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>>91315164
Failure to follow the rules is failure to comply with the needs of society
To fail society is to fail as a human being.
If you intend to focus on selfish goals I suggest you neck yourself and go be selfish in death while decent, proper people will work together for a greater goal.
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>>91316192
Of course she's the smartest person on the planet.(apparently) That makes this nine year old child in charge of the human race's morals and gives her cart blanch to do anything. Because that has never led to trouble in the past ever.
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>>91316647
She kind of reminds of the judge child from that judge dredd book that went off the rails but still remained cool as fuck.

In the end, being all knowing, doesn't make you all understanding. And humanity doesn't necessarily need you or owe you anything.
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Anarchy is for dummies. Just ask those Somalian pirates that get gunned down by PMCs for fun.
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>>91314881
WTF is wrong with her hair, why is it so big?
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>>91314881

it's pretty reed richards-y too
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>>91314881
so is 'it'll be great if we make a shitload of money and then spend it'
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>>91316789
She's black. Good old fashioned light racism.
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>>If I say the character is the smartest in the Marvel Universe, that means all my opinions are right if they come out of her mouth!
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>>91314881
Well haven't you read early spiderman?
Heroes that are just villains with a bad career choice are a classic.
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>>91315164
>someone's failure to play by the rules isn't a failure at being a human being.
It is, however, a failure at being a social being.
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This is retarded. If a nine year old could do whatever they want, they'd just play video games non-stop and then go bankrupt.
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>>91314881
I know that most characters aren't written correctly outside their own books but why does Moon Girl get it the worst?
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>>91314881
a hero and villain may have the same motivations or outlooks on life

it would be interesting to see what happened to them that they diverged so far when they originally had similiar starts
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>>91316835
It's not racist! It's ETHNIC!! UGHHHH.
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>>91316192
>someone has a political point of view
>"lol, how ARROGANT of them to think they have the AUTHORITY to form that opinion"
This stock phrase can be invoked in any context. An all-purpose putdown is a no-purpose putdown.
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>>91316890
Blame Marvel for insisting on pushing her as the smartest person from earth, even smarter than Reed, who is off rebuilding the multiverse but is still dumber than Lunella so fuck you.
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>>91316905
So the next "No, you move"
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>>91316789
>>91316835
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>>91316898
Odd choice of strawman. Evidently you want me to hate anyone who draws a black person with big curly hair, because it's "racist".

And you say "they" are the ones with evil extremist social justice opinions.

Except they're even worse because they're hypocritical. So hypocritical, in fact, that they don't get angry over black people having curly hair.
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>>91316378
He will, in a couple weeks from now. The catch is that it will be written by Bendis.
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>>91314881
>Isn't this classic supervillain logic?

It is and I'm pretty sure I've seen almost literally every single super-genius-villain use this exact justification to basically.. Do whatever it is they want to do for the betterment of others that are to "stupid".

Like, the leap in logic from, "this world's rules are made to keep ME in line to keep ME under the thumb of the MAN" to "my happiness and well-being- and perhaps the happiness and well-being of others- depends upon my ability to destroy or circumvent these rules."
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>>91315164
Funny how Jewish guilt doesn't get mentioned, huh?
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I mean, she's not wrong. Imagine how many shelters and schools you could've built and how much other kinds of good you would've done if things like money laundering or arms trafficking weren't illegal.
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>>91316993
>"my happiness and well-being- and perhaps the happiness and well-being of others- depends upon my ability to destroy or circumvent these rules."
Huh? It doesn't?
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>>91316199
i mean the one good explanation with moon girl is that she's a 12 year old, and no matter how smart she is adults aren't gonna listen to a child.
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Sounds exactly like the philosophy of Gandhi.

You know, the guy who protested until the British left and subsequently plunged India into a third world nation (when under British heel it was a prosperous, growing second world nation.)
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>>91314881
Fucking edit, where's the real page?
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>>91317088
It was soviet-aligned?
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>>91314881
why is she wearing pants?
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>>91315224
/pol/ mascot is an ss dresses alucard knock-off with hundreds of underage girls representing concepts as varied as christianity, ebola, and the unforgiving cold. What the fuck do you think?
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>>91315224
They don't have the work ethic to be supervillains.
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>>91317122
>It was soviet-aligned?

Well yes, mostly because India had an extremely sour relationship with China and desperately wanted to avoid being under their rule. Russia were a bunch of friendly white guys who reminded them of England yet had a more persuasive marxist-communist ideology so they threw their hat in with them. But in the end it was all to spite China and communism turned into a big joke.
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>>91317158
>implying

The /pol/ mascot is a news reporter in a fedora and trench coat with heeb-o-vision. The unshaven ladyboy in a suit is accepted only by the worst artists.
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>>91314881
>Isn't this classic supervillain logic?
nigga this is the ultra-condensed version of every speech ever given by a "holier-than-thou intellectually enlightened utilitarian" archetype

I'm glad the America Chavez run is such a fucking trainwreck, it can serve as the containment zone for all social topics like this and keep all the "oppressed minority" characters in one place, with minimal crossover to the current DECENT runs

segregation, if you will
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>>91317201
/news/ died my friend. Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened.

>>91317163
>turned to
Your chronology is wrong there, might friend.
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>>91317035
>Imagine how many shelters and schools you could've built and how much other kinds of good you would've done if things like money laundering or arms trafficking weren't illegal.

If Africa has taught me anything it's that helping those who cannot help themselves only leads to an increase in useless layabouts who require more panhandling.

See also: native reservations.
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>>91317283
>Africa
No one cares about niggers. They're not even human and should never be used as examples of human behaviour.
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>>91317001
self-hating jews are so prevalent its a comedy cliche. even south park has done episodes on it
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>>91317283
>If Africa has taught me anything it's that helping those who cannot help themselves only leads to an increase in useless layabouts who require more panhandling.

Africa has a lot of lessons to teach us.
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>>91316403
>work together for a greater goal.
they're just working for self-interest
there's nothing wrong with that but pretending otherwise can lead to some nasty repression

even wanting a better tomorrow is in the end selfish because you want you and the people that make you happy to benefit from such a world
falling in with 'greater good' rhetoric makes it way easier for knee-jerk fear responses to get translated into short-sighted legislature

furthermore, realizing its all just a social game we play makes one far more willing to play by the rules even when it doesn't suit them, compared to people who see society as a competition they have to win at any cost.
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>>91316853
not at all because you can come up with new rules and invite people to play buy those instead. that's how new societies are formed
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>>91317388
>that pic
I mean all of that is true and reinforces how nigs gonna nig but the whole "POLITICIAN SPENT 5 MIL ON X JESUS" is dumb because that amount of money is basically spare change when compared with the money that flows (or should flow) in and out of a country.
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>>91314881
>this would sound like the rantings of a nazi from /pol/ if she was white
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>>91317283
>calling native reservations "helping"
In the same sense that prison helps a prisoner.
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>>91317485
why is every character in this drawn so dark, masculine, and ugly?
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>>91317546
Diversity.
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>>91317463
>you can come up with new rules and invite people to play buy those instead
Until the people get bored and inevitably swing back to the starting side. And that's assuming you won't be rejected in the first place.
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>>91317568
that's fine too
even a rotating door of a group can sate your social craving. most club scenes are that way
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>>91317473
>I mean all of that is true and reinforces how nigs gonna nig but the whole "POLITICIAN SPENT 5 MIL ON X JESUS" is dumb because that amount of money is basically spare change when compared with the money that flows (or should flow) in and out of a country.

5 Million would have gone a long way in Zimbabwe, anon.
You underestimate their level of poverty.

But, yes, at any rate the main point is the Zimbabweens (aka Ex-Rhodesia) basically destroyed their country both environmentally and economically due to their own racism.
Their president (whom I 'think' was and is the first and last african president Zimbabwe elected) being laughably corrupt is only the icing on the cake.
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>>91317564
I don't like it
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>>91316403
You are such a fucking pathetic cojone-less faggot dude, holy shit. /pol/ gets more and more cucked everyday.
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>>91317485
>ancestral knowledge is like, clutch, you know?

Please stop
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>>91315164
go back to /lit/ you commie cuck
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>>91317485
>trash can thrown through glass
>*KERBLAM*
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>>91317605
Mundus vult decipi
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>>91317671
Is anyone going to able to read all these new Marvel comics in the next 10 to 20 years with all these fucking colloquialisms and references packed in every page? Most of them die within a year these days anyways, look at how massive YOLO and swag were amongst normies and how much tard rage there was over them and people were getting tattoos and shit and now no one says YOLO or swag anymore. It's like if everyone in comics in 2006 described shit as being 'fergalicious'.
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>>91315486
to be fair, thats really the only way to make her character more interesting, to make her go from goody tryhard hero, to an edgy rebellious teen and then end with a transition to villainy as she grows up do to her "high intellegence" and ego making her bored with society and its expectations of her.
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>>91317738
now where's the fun in that? all the best games involve an underdog and an insurmountable force
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>>91317784
I'm sure Nadia Pym's influence won't help
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>>91317784
Anon, we didn't need another sexualized loli in the thread.
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>>91317784
Isn't that the plot of that Harry Potter fanfic that practically turns Harry into Sheldon Cooper turned up to eleven?
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>>91317869
maybe. I havn't kept up with Methods of Rationality but it seemed to be going down the Moriarty path
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>>91317855
theres nothing sexual about it.
>found the pedo who cant hide his hard on
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>>91317784
It would be nice to get to watch a villain grow up.
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>>91317869
That's what I've heard from people who hate it, so probably not.
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>>91314881
Can anyone tell me why she is the smartest person alive? What kind of feats has she had? Had she invented anything, has she got any degrees, has she got eidetic memory, what is it? Or is she just smart because they say she is?
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>>91317800
You got it all wrong. It's not an underdog vs an insurmountable force; it's two underdogs taking turns to bite at each other while the insurmountable force watches from the bleachers, now and again casting a bone at the arena when the game starts slowing down.
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>>91317898
Read 75% of the Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck and don't go any further.
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>>91317898
exactly, if they go this route her character might actually be interesting. But first Marvel needs to uncuck itself, since obviously they cant have an evil black character under the current regime.
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>>91317497
>it's like prison except they can drink and fuck and make money and own casinos and leave at any time
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>>91317978
>tfw ill never be native american masterrace and get to stay home,drink and shitpost on /co/ for a living
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>>91314881
Luna should just be a villain t b h

At least that would be interesting
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>>91317337
Good thing anon used other groups as examples in the post.
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>>91317718
Even the little things in that comic are bad. If I didn't know any better, I'd think they were doing it on purpose.
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>>91314881
>Young Intelligent POC Girl: "The system is rigged, if you try and play by society's rules it'll just hold you back. If you notice that you're failing, that just means you're doing things correctly."
>Sassy Gay Latinx: "She's totally right you know."
>CIS White Male: "HURR DY-NO-SWORE!"
What did Marvel mean by this?
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>>91316836
This.
I've heard that her series is cute for the kids, but that her appearances everywhere else are beyond insufferable.

Honestly, 80% of these new Marvel characters just strike me as the comic book equivalent of those kids who would always have all the powers and force fields so they'd never be able to lose when playing pretend.
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>>91314881
>To behave like the world wants me to

Theres tremendous utility in acting that way though. It's called being polite, and civilized and respectable. Violent savages act differently than the way the world wants them to.
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>>91317237
>Social justice politics have become so insufferable that segregation is actually starting to seem appealing to both sides
haha holy shit, never thought we'd end up back here, eh?
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>>91314881
>Dope

Did she seriously just say that? Are they trying to be ironic? I know Marvel isn't in touch but they can't be that out of it. Can they?
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>>91318206
>Violent savages
Well, she IS black after all.
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>>91318206
It's the after-effect of existing in an echo-chamber.
Being politically-correct is "just common courtesy" but living a healthy, productive life is problematic and abelist.
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>>91316338

No, most classic super villains think

>the world needs MY order, because everyone elses order is inferior and doesn't work.

Which is exactly what ops shit character is talking about.
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>>91317485
>maybe we can goes back and meet with the kangs we wuz and get the secrets to melinin magics n'sheet!
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>>91317237
>>91318230
The 20th Century Wept.
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>>91318362
>Huffpost
Fake news
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>>91317485
is this an actual page? It looks like shit.
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>>91316378
He is. Right now, U Reed is fucking Doom's mother.
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>>91317001
All the best Jew jokes were written by Jews
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When an Inhuman starts talking or acting like a supervillain, you just gotta accept it man. They're the good guys no matter what
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>>91318337
She's not even black you autist
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>>91318337
Avengers just wiped out Rama's weapon cache pyramids in the past. no Kang thundersticks to be gotten there
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>>91316860
Shit that's what I did and I'm 27
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>>91317776
Internet culture truly was a mistake. And it's a mistake perpetuated by social media.

Humankind has had serious problems with fads since the dawn of the 20th century. And the internet age has exponentially worsened the concepts of fashion and individual expression. The sidecut hairstyle is a perfect example of this problem.
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>>91318206
This is a comic read and written by people who think basic common sense is a dead concept (see; fucking mansplaining) and who think that it's okay to run around naked and make menstrual paintings. These are people who think things like hypothetical cures for autism are 'ableist' and that not wanting to fuck people who are HIV positive is a form of slut shaming. They think that telling bed ridden hamplanets who are one Big Mac away from getting a leg removed that their weight is killing them and they look like shit is 'fat shaming'. SJWs literally don't believe in common decency or not being entitled pissbabies, neither do they believe in just trying at some minimal level to be cohesive, respectful and co-operative with other people because they consider feelings, over common sense, to be the most important thing in the world.

I feel like tumblr and /pol/ are both testaments to why men and women need to be around each other to keep our society balanced and why it's bad to just leave masses of jaded ones stewing in their own juices with no opposing force telling them what they're doing is fucked, tumblr's fallen into a pit where literally nothing except their feelings matter and /pol/ has fallen into a pit where what they deem to be 'logical' is all that matters to the point of straight up wanting genocides and nearly all traces of empathy have left the more hardcore /pol/acks.
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>>91318718
>/pol/ has fallen into a pit where what they deem to be 'logical' is all that matters to the point of straight up wanting genocides and nearly all traces of empathy have left the more hardcore /pol/acks

If it's logically sound why is it a bad thing?
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>>91314881
This is the overarching plot of the capestory I am working on.
>Secret cabal of "heroes" keeps trying to set up what is essentially a Fascist state for "the greater good"
>Villian protagonist keeps having to murder them because what they have in mind would be bad for business.
If it sounds edgy that's because that's the barest of bones. There are good guys and the protagonist really isn't one.
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>>91318718
>to the point of straight up wanting genocides
/pol/ is more bark than bite, just like any internet forum. Internet tough guys never go beyond their superficial e-bravado.

Tumblr on the other hand have gotten people fired from their jobs, and driven some of their own to the brink of suicide simply over opinions of gender and race.
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>>91318718
>what they deem to be 'logical' is all that matters to the point of straight up wanting genocides and nearly all traces of empathy have left the more hardcore /pol/acks.
It's not so much that I want a genocide as I see the inevitability of one happening in the West. To be fair I think it's more likely to be enacted upon Europeans than against them.
And in this world, it's better to have no empathy than to have too much of it.
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>>91318791
>enacted upon Europeans than against them.
Sorry, that should be
"enacted upon Europeans than by them."
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>>91318708
if you study the history of trends you see that the opposite is true. trendsetters are more aware than ever before of the cycles of popularity. which means rather than ust going through the same three-step dance over and over there's pressure to really throw anything at the wall and see what sticks, and to abandon it the second it too passe when before that could take decades
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>>91317564
>Diversity
>Dark, masculine and ugly
So... aren't they technically implying all black/latino people are ugly?
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>>91318743
because humans are beings of both logic and emotion and saying one trumps the other leads you astray from the middle path. aspiring for a human society without emotion is like aspiring for a solar system without gravity
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>>91318204
>I've heard that her series is cute for the kids, but that her appearances everywhere else are beyond insufferable.
This sounds about right.

Sort of like Kamala I guess
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>>91318605
Wasn't she supposed to be "Blaxican" or something like that?
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>>91316148
>PRESERVING THE STATUS QUO = GOOD
>CHANGE = BAD
>OBAMA = DID 9/11

Here's how capeverses work for ya.
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>>91315164
>No, it's pretty standard sociology.
So, nonsensical soft junk pseudoscience garbage, then? Bring back Moon Boy, enough of this nappy headed ho.
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>>91318915
>nappy headed ho
She's literally a child.
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>>91318883
Nobody aspires for a human society without emotion. That wouldn't be possible. And even if it were, the resulting society would be unimaginably monstrous.

But certainly this society we have now where social and political policy are made on the basis of overly emotional shrieking is inferior to societies which do realpolitik.
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>>91316148
>fight an oppressive system that keeps people down
Considering that those people who claim to want to 'fight an oppressive system that keeps people down' lead chants saying 'What do we want? Dead cops!' and make heroes out of robbers and would-be cop killers, yeah, they're villains. They're not smart enough to qualify as supervillains IRL though.
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>>91318787
>/pol/ is more bark than bite, just like any internet forum. Internet tough guys never go beyond their superficial e-bravado.

So you'd respect them more if they actually went through with genociding people?
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>>91315164
I wonder who could be behind this post.

Honestly though, although you don't need to be a supervillain to abandon the arbitrary rules of human society, you DO need to abandon the arbitrary rules of human society to be a supervillain. There's some correlation there. And there are some expectations associated with the medium. There are few comics about people writing philosophical treatises on the Will to Power, but great many about people applying it themselves with some kind of giant nuclear spider tank.
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>>91318979
Not that anon, but sure. If someone set out to impose their will on the world at such a large scale and actually succeeded at it, I'd have to respect them for their results.
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>>91314881
So moon girl aspires to be a communist dictator ?
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>>91318985
>/pol/ blames the Jews
>It's a German philosophy that's destroying the west
Every time
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>>91316148
Honestly this speech doesn't sound like any sort of Black Lives Matter thing but like Moon Girl saying, "They didn't appreciate my genius! They looked down on me! They laughed at me! Well, who's laughing now, peasants? WHO'S LAUGHING NOW? Mwhahahahaha!" and blowing up her home city with a Death Lazer.
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>>91319028
She will bring true Communism tho.
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>>91319056
It's failure to adapt to reality that is destroying the West. People need to understand that their opinion are just opinions and nothing more, they are not some objective truth that people of other opinions would see as inherently superior and adopt when exposed to them. But it is your opinions and preferences and thus worth eradicating opposition for.
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>>91318271
Actively hating "political correctness" is the exact opposite of healthy and productive. That's kind of the whole point of the counter-movement; it's all about being destructively assholish towards others because their freedoms say they can and their victims deserve it.
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>>91318787
You are on 4chan.
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>>91319103
Don't try to tell me Nihilism, or at least some watered down for the masses version of it had nothing to do with it.
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>>91319028
Based DOOM will save us from her.

Times I wish like this I could draw. On one side of the field teenaged Moon Girl riding on her dinosaur, legions of poorly-made rusty junkbots bristling with homemade missiles and rocket gloves and flamethrowers behind her.

And against them, the steel and silver towers of Latvia, its populace huddled behind their windows. But they do not cower in fear. Instead their proud and worshipful gazes are all upon a single figure in green, standing between the city and Moon Girl's army, his fist raised in defiance. And behind him, the ranks of Doombots, each plated in gleaming chrome, beautiful as Moon Girl's robots are ramshackle and ugly.

If only I could get these images out of my head and onto paper...
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>>91319103
That falsehood has been hammered into every skull since it popped out of the womb. The vast majority of the time, when someone is shouted dowm with "THAT'S JUST YOUR OPINION" it's over something that does, in fact, hold a noticeable connection to objective reality. People need to stop shunting certain inconvenient fact into the Opinion Zone in order to act like they mean nothing and must be ignored, and start taking into account things that they know to be true.
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>>91319056
>destroying
>not uplifting
There is nothing to life that has value, except the degree of power—assuming that life itself is the will to power.
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>>91319105
oh you fucking pussy grow a god damned spine. Political correctness is basically mealy mouthed facism. You can't say anything mean, but the rules that define mean are arbitrary and made up and can range from actual mean things to things that you just don't agree wiht. And if I violate any of these made up rules, I get to be ostracized by people to afraid to speak up and I get to lose my job. Wonderful!

It's faggots like you that made it possible to violate the first amendment and make it so if I refer to some dipshit by the wrong pronnoun in ny I can get fined a quarter of a million fucking dollars.
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>>91319147
Nihilism is an effect, not a cause. Scientific progress exposes more and more facts about the world and demystify it, especially demystify human psyche, the desires, the decision-making, the morality etc.

Building morality and social politics on mysticism in this enlightened era is building a house on shifting sand. And when it inevitably collapse, you blame the contractor, you blame the brick factory, you blame the meteorologists and geologists who provided models to describe mechanisms behind shifting sands, instead of realizing that it was the poor choice of foundation.
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>>91319187
Facts are facts, but the choosing a goal is always an opinion. If you think otherwise, just imagine giving me your best argument in favour of your moral system, and me replying "why?" again and again until you give up, leaving your morality suspended in the air, proving me right.
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>>91318787
sure whatever you say, except they only do so from the comfort of theri own homes, they don't fight physically, they fight using underhanded cheap tricks, and annoying the right people so that people get fired.

And tmblr are the only ones who got people to kill themselves? You're on fucking 4chan numb nuts.
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Why are spics the worst thing to happen to America?
Remember the Alamo, cunts
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>>91319226
The reason he invokes Random Verbal Atrocity #n in the same breath as his political enemies is so that people will think they're one and the same. It's not as easy to hate people who disagree with him if it's JUST for disagreeing with him, even if he extends that hatred to people who disagree with him but don't commit the atrocities he accuses them of, and withholds it from people who commit those same atrocities but don't disagree with him.
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>>91319105
Why is respecting speech codes put into place as a result of the pressure of professional activists 'healthy and productive'? There is a difference between PC and just not being an asshole. You can be against PC and not be in favor of being needlessly cruel. Granted people on 4chan and /pol/ often ignore that distinction but it still exists and is valid. Like, saying a white person shouldn't comment on the facts of an issue relating to black people since they aren't coming from the same 'lived experience' is PC, and it's bullshit. Facts are facts regardless of who observes them. On the other hand running around calling black people niggers and animals is just being an asshole. See the difference?
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>>91318872
No, they're outright showing you that black/Latino dykes are hideous.
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>>91319221
>choosing a goal is always an opinion
I'd say most people generally agree about the GOALS. All the moral systems you see seriously peddled around are about happiness and prosperity for all people, and the most profound disagreements are on things that at least should be matters of objective reality. Like how do you reach that happiness and prosperity. And what constitutes a "person".
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>>91318897
Nope, maybe you're thinking of black spider-man.
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>>91319226
>they fight using underhanded cheap tricks
As everybody should?
If your cause isn't worth using trickery, then it really isn't worth much.
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>>91315224
Was there ever any doubt?
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>>91319332
>And what constitutes a "person".
Yeah, in a way.
Happiness for all is hardly anyone's actual goal. Some say all homo sapience are people. Some say you need to watch your own kind's first. Some say every man for himself. Some think capitalists deserve to exploit the less wealthy because they are superior. Some say workers should kill all capitalists and seize means of production. Some say you owe people welfare. Some say, if you don't work, you die.
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>>91317633
I don't see you starting a revolution despite all that fire in your heart. Why not show your way is superior? Go take over a country and create your grand visionary utopia. I'll be waiting here in comfortable conformity.
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>>91319321
I'm wondering if the artist has some sort of agenda to make the writer look bad or get the project killed. The art's stylized, but not so much that it gets people to ignore ugliness as
'style'. It's just that slight bit enough to cause revulsion and distaste. Very fine line they're walking there.
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>>91319319
>There is a difference between PC and just not being an asshole.
Not really. Assholes like to claim they're being oppressed while labelling anything they consider offensive "politically correct", and that's pretty much it.
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>>91314881
See, there is no problem with mentioning that society doesn't perfectly fit your needs. Nor is there anything wrong with wanting to change it.

What you need to recognise though is that you have no rights to. You are not entitled to shit. Rather, you've got to claw for what you want and know that you might not get it in the end.

It's why I like X-Men when they are done well. They know they don't 'deserve' to have anything. They recognize that they are going to have to fight for it.

Luna acts as if she is some sort of messiah who should be granted this shit. As if society should give it to her. The worst part is that it is, because of the writer’s total mental deficiency we are supposed to agree with this shit.
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>>91319319
Because the line is intentionally blurred. People constantly use facts to intentionally hurt others. Like it's a true fact that black people overall in America are poorer, more prone to crime, and less likely to get a good job compared to white people. But assholes end the conversation there and ignore the fact that 98% of blacks aren't poor criminals who respect the law and work for a living.
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>>91318167
>cis
>male
bruh...
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>>91318949
Of course, that's why the societies that try are the most successful in the world!

Oh wait.
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>>91319433
Is it mental deficiency that they want you to agree with? or are they writing a spoiled brat as a spoiled brat that thinks what every kid that age thinks?
It's not as if Reed Richards, Tony Stark, or Victor Von Doom were made automatically humble by their great intellects.
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>>91318949
>That wouldn't be possible
Unfortunately
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>>91314881
the main problem is... Lunella isn't that mature in her comics.
She's still a kid, super-smart but is still learning about life.

If this was an older Moon Girl, it would have been fine, but this is still kid Lunella.

tl;dr: Moon Girl is extremely out of character
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>>91317158
>Christianity
>Bad

you make /trash/ look good
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This place really is /co/mblr, holy fuck
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>>91319593
begone faggot
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>>91319553
Societies that try realpolitik tend to be more successful? Sure, they are.
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>>91319610
You first. Preferrably off the face of the Earth.
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>>91316403
>all rules are good by definition
>I spread my cheeks in anticipation whenever my boss wants me to work on Saturday
>I call other people cucks on the internet
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>>91317822
Nadia either becomes Hank 2.0 or Mad Thinker 2.0.

Or both. Unlimited SCIENCE! Works.
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>>91319630
jokes on you I'm on mars
now go self hate somewhere else slutmelon
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>>91319647
I don't hate myself, only idiots like you who think political correctness is a good thing.
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>>91319655
man you need to stop with the implications

pc shit is boring but getting a rise out of you by calling you a fag is always enjoyable
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>>91319579
Christianity IS bad. Particularly in America, there's a malignant extremist population of evangelical Christians rising up who hope to establish a religious hegemony and undermine secular values. Every effort should be made to assure these Christians that they are not going to get what they want.
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>>91318949
I'd say Singapore is an example of a country "without emotion" although I hesitate to use those words specifically. Government controls everything, civil liberties are strict, punishments are strict, media is controlled but it's one of the safest, cleanest cities in the world.

But it works because Singapore strives for diversity. Schools teach multiculturalism, immigration policy is designed to get people contributing to society, and the government goes out of their way to create recreational centers that celebrate the city's diversity. In any integrated society things fall apart when people can't trust each other.
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>>91317254
>society is trash
>he says as he makes use of devices and systems that spawned from society.

Dipshit.
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>>91319670
>Christian bogeyman
Our system is already set up to prevent a theocracy, Anon. You're worrying about nothing.
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>>91319332
>I'd say most people generally agree about the GOALS
And this is why Europe is self destructing now. The notion that people deep down just want the same things, and in principle all disagreements can be settled with open conversation and singing kumbaya, is laughably false and profoundly dangerous, yet it's very common.

The notion that people have inherent dignity and ought to be treated nicely is a rare and parochial value lacking in many societies. One of the world's largest religions holds its highest value as love of god and others. Another holds its highest value as obedience to the commands of god as outlined in a rule set that includes military expansion of theocracies, subjugation of nonbelievers, and execution of apostates.

And since the choosing of goals is, as the other anon mentioned, orthogonal to matters of fact, appealing to happiness or prosperity are useless even if such arguments are factually correct.
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>>91319702
>No argument
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>>91319383
Those are the means, though, not the ends. People who agitate for workers to seize the means of production don't think of the seizing as the end goal, but as a necessary step in securing good living conditions for the workers. People who argue against welfare don't want others to arbitrarily starve, they just think that it's necessary for a well-running society that limited resources are given to those who KEEP it running.

As for "every man for himself", that isn't really a moral system as much as an absence of one.
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>>91319564
They do. The author’s two self-inserts agrees with Luna and states that she is ‘dope’. They also have the frat white kids be the only ones who disagree with her and they don’t exactly have… character outside of being wrong.
That is what makes this comic very frustrating to read. America can be a good character, Ultimates and Young Avengers proved that. She is one of the most dangerous metas on the planet who can punch through space and now time. This could be a story of her maturity of her growing as an individual as she went around the multiverse. Seriously, it could be the Doctor Strange style book that Aaron and Hopeless lack the imagination and balls to produce. This has no creativity. It’s just… bland and pandering.
I mean, I love the shit out of Ultimates because it does something I love. It is a group that despite the current state of Marvel ignores pandering to its audience to tell a story. All of the characters have personality and flaws and there is a plot which looks and feels epic.
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>>91319702
>Be a peasant in the middle ages
>Criticize the feudal system
>While wearing clothes made thanks to the feudal system

Peasants, when will they learn?
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>>91319667
>LE I TROLL U XDDD
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>>91319523
Well who decides what facts are okay to say? The left uses facts like 'the West used slavery and colonialism' but ends the conversation there and ignores that the whole world used slavery and that Western civilization also brought great things. The media actively avoids mentioning those crime statistics you noted to the point where a lot of people are completely ignorant about those disparities and therefore assume that any time a black man is shot by police it must be because the police are racist. How can anyone deal with problems if they aren't acknowledged? Let's allow all facts to come out and not have anyone dictating to us which facts are not allowed. Get all the cards on the table so we can hash everything out honestly and openly.

Not being a criminal and respecting the law and working if able is normal, it's what you're supposed to do, it's what we expect of everybody, so it doesn't bear drawing any attention to it. You don't get a medal for doing what you're supposed to do as a normal functioning human being. The exceptions where people don't act normally are what draws our attention. That's why the nightly news is mostly bad news. If it was just an endless litany of 'Today a man went to work, and then took his daughter out for ice cream' no one would watch it because that's what you're supposed to be doing as a human. It's the murderers and rapists that draw our attention because those are problems that need to be solved.
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>>91319756
make that two rises
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>>91319712
Europe's doing fine! I agree that the acknowledgment of a shared destiny is necessary for a people to thrive. And I have faith that we'll get there eventually. Slowly but surely, the unimaginative peoples will die off and the creative ones will thrive. God, what a beautiful thing it is to bear witness to creation!
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>>91319523
>the fact that 98% of blacks aren't poor criminals who respect the law and work for a living
Define your terms, look up the relevant data, and you may be surprised.
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>>91319771
The only thing that rises is my dick when I read your shitposts
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>>91316993
thats why i hate this logic
western society has give us a longer life span, mobile phones, the internet. safe food to eat and a hundred million other amazing things, yes western society has rules and laws but they are usually mad to protect the freedoms that allow a society to flourish.
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>>91319805
going for three buddy?
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>>91316968
Not that anon, but obviously the lesson to be learned is to never include Black people at all in comics anymore. Hype will die down and balance will return if this is accomplished.
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>>91317182
china takes more from Africa and rarely gives anything back unlike the west did when they tried to colonise African continent
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>>91319768
Again, "facts without context" are harmful. You get "your cards on the table" and what next? It's just an endless pissing match.

So you look at crime statistics and what does it say to you? Assholes go "look, these are the people causing the problems get them out." But a rational person dives deeper, says that the problems are caused by a dozen different factors. Then other people say those factors are fine, because they're a non issue for most people (fact) BUT the people they are an issue with are the ones they're complaining about in the first place.

Facts are pointless. It's how you apply them that's important. And as it stands nobody wants to have that conversation because it ultimately reveals that the things they believed in for their whole lives are broken. Or that they need to mildly inconvenience themselves to make things better for others.
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>>91319670
>Evangelical christians

Evangelical christians aren't the whole christendom.
It's like saying all muslims are suicide bombers or all jews are bankers controlling the market from both political sides.

The constitutions of the vast majority of countries in the west are based on christian values, many of the ancient greek, arabic and roman writings were passed from christian monk to monk since centuries.
Modern hospitals, orphanages and universities are based on the christian version.
Even the modern economic recording system was made by christians.
Some countries wouldn't even have free healthcare if it weren't thanks to the church.

You're welcome
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>>91319792
>Define your terms

Funny thing about definitions is they change to match whoever is arguing for them.

Again, facts devoid of context are worthless.
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>>91319836
>a dozen different factors
Like low IQs, too much testosterone causing unnecessary aggression, being a nigger, etc
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>>91319655
Your obvious closet-case-status aside,
when I was a kid "Political Correctness" was just called "manners", you know: being polite to the most minimal extent so as to maintain a decent society.
Having lived in that past society for a time, I can recognize that people like you are simply using the false dichotomy of "PC oppression" to validate your sociopathic level of bigotry.
There has been no "imposed PC rules" since the days of state-sanctioned bigotry, this is all in your head.
Back in the day white people were racist as all hell, but they had the basic human decency to not shit out their mouths every time they spoke.
So what exactly are you trying to emulate? Because it's not the social rules of the past.
My grandfather would have beaten me bloody if I spoke like that in public.
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>>91319840
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/11/europe/britain-muslims-survey/
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>>91319638
>I am the bone of my hypothesis
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>>91319840
Rome lost all that shit. The Christians stole it during the Crusades. The numeric system your economic system uses? Arabic. Navigation? Arabic. Food preservation? Arabic.

It's almost like civilization is an amalgam of techniques spread through migration and integration.
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>>91319854
I need that aggression to protect myself from whitey shooting up schools and churches.
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>>91318787
>Internet tough guys never go beyond their superficial e-bravado.
Tell that to Shia
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>>91318430
Did this release today? I wanted to bear witness to the trainwreck
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>>91319788
>Europe's doing fine!
Not sure if serious, but anyway...

>the acknowledgment of a shared destiny is necessary for a people to thrive
Native Europeans generally want secular states with pluralistic, multicultural societies, mixed capitalism with a generous welfare state, and a high material standard of living. The current wave of muslim migrants (mostly unaccompanied fighting-age men illiterate in their native language) want a nice place to settle down with available women (polygamy in their homelands means there is a shortage of women for the general male population), a generous welfare program, and a culturally homogeneous theocratic state, with no one but members of their specific religious variant around to spark conflicts like the ones endemic in their homelands.

>unimaginative peoples will die off and the creative ones will thrive
Fun fact: there are several individual western universities/colleges whose alumni have more Nobel prizes than all muslims through history. The entire muslim world lacks even a single world-class university.
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>>91319872
No it wasn't, you dishonest piece of shit.
Manners are manners. PC shit is PC shit.
>all that retarded strawmanning
I can't even take you seriously. You're either a troll or this place is indeed /co/mblr. Either way fuck off.
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>>91319899
Statistically insignificant, you should be more worried about street crime from gangbangers. This is another point, like the guy above said facts without context are harmful. Well how about the media imbalance where any time a school shooting or spree killing (or yes, terrorism too) happens an inordinate amount of time is focused on that when the rate of people dying of gang-related or drug-related shootings should rationally be far more of a concern. That's just business as usual because it's constantly happening and so we've just stopped talking about it.
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>>91318230
Xavier's dream is dead. :,(
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>>91319788
Chipman get off of /co/
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>>91319542
CIS means "comfortable in skin", as in you consider yourself to be what are you on the outside

Pretty much everyone not trans is CIS
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It's classic rebelling teenager logic. Lately however there's many people who never outgrow this mindset so they stay irresponsible adolescents until their 30's
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>>91319712
The notion that people deep down just want the same things [...] is laughably false and profoundly dangerous

They... kinda seem to do, though. Like, all people I've spoken to have been pretty much relatable.

Have you actually MET these alien psychopaths of foreign lands? Do you KNOW they exist?
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>>91319982
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzsCio1XTMA
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>>91319840
Sounds like a convenient lie an evangelising proponent of a regressive theocracy would spread if you ask me.
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>>91317088
>British India was prosperous
Economic growth over a century averaged 1%. And that was from population growth.
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>>91319962
The vast majority of people dying from gang related and drug related shootings are the gangbangers and drug dealers.
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>>91317088
>third world nation

Uh, India is one of the world's fastest growing economies and its economic growth rate in the past 10 years is like 10x that over the century and a half of British rule.

Literally the only ones who benefited from British rule were the Britains.
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>>91319836
>Facts are pointless. It's how you apply them that's important.
And your solution is to... what?

Secure the dangerous facts to the possession of a secretive ruling elite that guides the hapless sheep with an invisible hand, through carefully crafted lies?

Acknowledging facts isn't, by itself, necessarily going to solve all of world's problems, but I don't see how NOT acknowledging them is going to help any.
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>>91320060
that maybe true but the government had to start a campaign to teach Indians not to shit in the streets
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>>91319982
"Cis" is a latin prefix that we've been using in chemistry for a long time, that is the direct opposite of "trans". You use them to describe a molecule's shape.
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>>91316297
>prevented over ninethousand deaths
ohyou.jpg
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>>91319872
>when I was a kid "Political Correctness" was just called "manners", you know: being polite to the most minimal extent so as to maintain a decent society.
I'm sorry I didn't realise getting arrested for saying mean things about islam was just "bad manners"
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>>91314881
This comic is so bad I don't even care about politics anymore. I literally want to give Gabby Rivera a hug and tell her you gotta do better. I'll give you another chance, but you have to step back from this character.
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>>91318609

>sheeet typical whitey blowin up da kangs n'sheet gats n'sheet.
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>>91320125
you from canada
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>>91319872
>There has been no "imposed PC rules" since the days of state-sanctioned bigotry, this is all in your head.
I live in Australia mate. It's literally illegal to say something that could offend them if it's based on their race or religion.
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>>91320022
Yes, and? Black lives matter, but only when white cops take them?
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>>91319982
"Cis" means "on the same side". "Not opposite". Used a lot in chemistry, where you have substances like cis-1-2-dichloroethene, meaning the two chlorine atoms are on the same side of the molecule, and trans-1-2-dichloroethene, with the chlorine atoms on the opposite sides.
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>>91320166
its a bullshit
a stupid useful idiot said on TV Islam is the most feminist religion and was berated and mock by a senator because well we all know that shit on a stick. the senator was called a racist and was ask to apologise and abc the state run broadcaster was blamed for not making a safe space for this shit spewing islamic death cult apologist. and its not the first time the Australian government has been in bed with Islamic hate clerics
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>>91314881

Which is cringiest - the 'art' or the dialogue?
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>>91317956
Black Maria
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>Yes. [At one point, another character,] the fire chief, describes how the minorities, one by one, shut the mouths and minds of the public, suggesting a precedent: The Jews hated Fagin and Shylock - burn them both, or at least never mention them. The blacks didn't like Nigger Jim floating on Huck's raft with him - burn, or at least hide, him. Women's libbers hated Jane Austen as an awfully inconvenient woman in a dreadfully old-fashioned time - off with her head! Family-values groups detested Oscar Wilde - back in the closet, Oscar! Communists hated the bourgeoisie - shoot them! An on and on it goes. So whereas back then I wrote about the tyranny of the majority, today I'd combine that with the tyranny of the minorities. These days, you have to be careful of both. They both want to control you. The first group, by making you do the same thing over and over again. The second group is indicated by the letters I get from the Vassar girls who want me to put more women's lib in The Martian Chronicles, or from blacks who want more black people in Dandelion Wine.

I don't agree with Ray Bradbury on more than a few things in that interview, but this is where he hit a nail on the head
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>>91320213
also the government denied a anti Islamic speaker from entering the country because they couldn't promise she would be safe which is code word for lets not piss of the racist homophobic anti western death cult leaders
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>>91317337
Kill yourself
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>>91320240
found the nigger
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>>91320235
The massive outburst against Ayaan Hirsi is insane to me. How are you supposed to be proving her wrong if you don't even want to let her fucking speak?
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>>91317693
That creed he's spouting is pretty much the exact opposite of communism. It's extreme individualism.
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>>91318872

Well yes. Pretty much all minorities are ugly fat trannies in most Tumblr-inspired comics. Its the truth they want to spread, that minorities are people you abhor to look at.
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>>91314881
Oh shit, she's going full Pym
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>>91319952
>You're either a troll or this place is indeed /co/mblr.
It's both, moron. He's shilling against PC shit by making intentionally bad arguments in its favor, because that's what you do on /co/ now, instead of discussing comic books.
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>>91320288
>discussing comic books.
What's the fucking point? If I wanted to discuss something of actual substance, I'd go to /lit/.
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>>91320263
thats what useful idiots on the left do, funny when Islam final takes over western society the feminist and the LGBT will be the first to hang from the cranes
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>>91320263
Your enemy can't get the last word in if you don't let them speak at all.

That's what debates are nowadays. Not about immutable information, not about the pursuit of the truth, but of proving the other person wrong and getting them shouted down by the audience.
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>>91320298
Good.
Praise Islam.
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>>91317182
Plus there was the whole issue with America being friendly to Pakistan (and China).
Really the whole situation in South Asia during the Cold War was utterly moronic.
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>>91319989
>alien psychopaths
Curious that you say that. The hallmark of psycopathology is a lack of empathy due to a particular cognitive deficiency. But empathy is learned in the first place, and humans are naturally tribal, with only "in-group" people subject to empathic reasoning by default. Have you ever seen the casual cruelty of children? Nice societies teach children to treat others how they want to be treated, and enough typically pick it up to perpetuate the niceness of that society. But not all societies do that. You know that may parts of Africa are controlled by warlords that conscript children and raise them in combat, right? That doesn't come from nowhere. It ties nicely into the prevailing tribal systems and casual disregard for outgroups. The religions that told people to be nice to strangers as a general policy were novel at one time, and they took over because such societies work better than what prevailed previously.

It doesn't surprise me that you haven't personally met people from outside dignity cultures, since groups of them tend to live in ghettos and war zones, which are prudent to avoid as a matter of course. But supposing you live in the US, Mexico has a rather robust cartel system if you want to take a closer look without having to take a plane trip.
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>>91320296
The last time I went to /lit/, it was just a bunch of high school dropouts circlejerking over Ayn Rand.
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>>91319028
Actually I've seen this exact same rant online from a million Libertarians.

"Systems aren't designed to make ME great" and "I shouldn't have to follow any rules or be nice to other people, I am Special and better than others" falls neatly right alongside "Statists are cucks" and "taxation is theft."

Communists don't tend to go on rants about the importance of Great Men (Women, whatever) and abolishing systems/rules/asking people to be polite to others.
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>tfw 2smart to follow society's rules
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>>91320350
Alright. Point taken.
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>>91320263
>How are you supposed to be proving her wrong if you don't even want to let her fucking speak?
That's the point, PC people know they can't prove their opponents wrong so they try to prevent their opponents arguments from being expressed in the first place.
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>>91320370
>PC people know they can't prove their opponents wrong
The smart and cynical ones know this. The true believers don't regard things like evidence, proof, and reasoning as things that matter. Such things are entirely unrelated to their ideological point and methodology.
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>>91320356
that image could easily have tumblr and snl replaced with infowars and /pol/
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>>91315224
>You're saying /pol/ are supervillains?

Quite the opposite.
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>>91317485
Is this seriously what they consider good writing? Cuz this is shit.
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>>91314881
>THEY WILL RUE THE DAY THEY CHALLENGED... THE MONARCH!!
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>>91316403
>society

Spook alert.
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>>91317485
>this would sound like the rantings of a nazi from /pol/ if she was white

No matter how "different" ideologies sound most people are just self-serving and advocate for whatever helps them in that moment. Neuroscience actually show that since we know now that when people make these arguments the parts of the brain that deal with emotion and base survival light up while the logic and reason areas stay dark. A /pol/tard that advocates White Power who woke up black with no way to change back would be all about Black Power. People just support whatever they think will personally help them that day for the most part and rationalize anything at all as being "objectively" true because of their kneejerk feelings.
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>>91314881
>"So what the fuck are you going to do about it? How much do you want it, and how much are you willing to pay for it?"
People need to realize that if they want to flaunt society's rules, they need to be willing to pay the consequences for doing so. If you're going to make a decision, take responsibility for it. Whining about how it was the only way to express yourself to the people who take you in for breaking the law isn't going to cut it.
The problem I have with her presentation is how she's blaming other people for reacting to the way she acts in a way she doesn't like.
Yeah, so? If you're not willing to take the heat, back down and reconsider why you got the reaction you did. Not every hill is worth dying on, and figuring out where your non-negotiable are is an important lesson in life.
You're not promised anything, not a system that fits your needs, not health, not money.
The reason why so many systems force people into line is because they work- for the moment, at least, not always in the long run. You're not allowed to kill people whenever they insult you because that sets a precedent for political instability, which doesn't benefit a terribly high amount of people.
Life's not fair. You want to play the game, learn the rules. I can't guarantee you'll get where you want, but trying to move the goalposts when everyone else has agreed where they are is looking for a world of hurt from people who don't want to re-adjust their life to meet your standards.
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>>91320445
That is, until you learn to change your mind. It's trickier than you might think, which is why so few people learn to do it.
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>>91319670
Where can I get one of those tinfoil hats like yours?
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>>91317001
yadaayada would include the thousands of other forms of guilt not mentioned. Do you really need that spelled out?

>>91316403
>The creator of Calvin and Hobs is now a failure
>Jim Davis is the greatest thing to society since sliced bread

How do you end up on 4chan if you want to be a bootlicker this much?
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>>91314881

Why does every cunt with a high GPA think they're the hottest shit in the world, that despite no real experience, skills or accomplishments they're entitled to thinks they haven't worked to achieve. You lean those rules so you can develop the skills needed to function in society/

No matter how smart you are nobody's going to give you a executive job out of school, you won't get a loan for a start up without some form of credit or collateral and nobody's going to want to work for someone who hasn't prove themselves potty trained so much a leader.

It reminds me of why I got fed up with the CW's flash. Girlfriend Journalist goes to work for a newspaper or some other shit and thinks she's going to walk in their day one and be handed the Nixon impeachment or that her case is going to make page 1 without any verification. Then she pouts and complains about how the old farts are wrong to keep her down because they've all been around for years and paid their dues and learned the ropes and know how the business works. But not doing that shouldn't stop girlfriend journalist she's got moxy and that's what matters.
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>>91320339
>humans are naturally tribal, with only "in-group" people subject to empathic reasoning by default
Doesn't that contradict your earlier argument? About people not fundamentally wanting the same things. Assuming you're >>91319712.
Wanting to help five people you personally know is still "happiness and prosperity for all people" if those five guys are the only ones you really recognize as PEOPLE. And yes, maybe that is stretching the definition of the word to the point where it becomes meaningless, but whatever.

I'll agree that the "compassion for all human beings" thing is learned, though.
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>>91320515
Garfield is better than Calvin and Hobbes.
Both are painfully unfunny, but at least Garfield is not pretentious.
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>>91320445
>A /pol/tard that advocates White Power who woke up black with no way to change back would be all about Black Power.
Wasn't that a movie?
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>>91320545
>Garfield is better than Calvin and Hobbes.
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>>91317485
Don't see it. Sounds exactly like those people who are into family tree collecting, history, etc.

Put another way, C-Span shows people beaming with pride over their relations and histories to presidents like Andrew Jackson and nobody (except SJW nazis) calls them crazy/racist.

Now that comic did have a lot of other examples of America being a racist bitch and sterotypes. Its to the point that if a white male was writing this it'd be comic book black face.
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>>91317612
Robert Mugabe is, yes, the one and only post-Rhodesian leader of Zimbabwe.

He is a disgusting example of the worst of humanity.
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>>91318362
And every racist in American rejoiced, thanking HuffPo for their support.
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>>91317088
it could be worse, it could be Rhodesia (RIP)
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>>91317546

Because lesbians and social progressives tend to be ugly in real life.
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>>91320060
A strong economy does not a first-world nation make.

India is the Beverly Hillbillies of developing nations -- rich but unrefined.
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>>91320543
>Doesn't that contradict your earlier argument?
No. Not all tribe members want to help members of the tribe. Since individuals care about different things and all (hint: happiness and prosperity aren't universally considered good things).

But also fundamentally here, "support my tribe's interests" is a subjective rather than objective goal. Two people from different tribes can be said to both "care about their tribes" but is objective terms this translates to one person caring about people A, B, and C, while the other cares about people X, Y, and Z.
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>>91320060
>Literally the only ones who benefited from British rule were the Britains
Factually incorrect, life expectancy and arable land in India drastically shot up under British rule, as well as household incomes slightly increasing and the travelling bandits who murdered people on the roads being wiped out
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>>91320589
At least Jim Davis is getting the most out of his creation. Unlike, unlike Watterson's naive, unrealistic moral high ground.

You only go around once in life. May as well take all you can grab. Nowhere in the world accepts "integrity" as legal tender
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>>91321236
Some people care about things other than legal tender. Watterson did what he wanted the way he wanted, made money doing it, then retired from comics to paint away from the public eye, just as planned. Sounds to me like he did alright.
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>>91321297
this
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>>91318204
It's funny because the lesson in her series right now is that she CAN'T just do whatever she wants, because that leads to people she cares about getting hurt, and that even though she's technically smart, she needs to recognize and listen to good advice from people with more life experience.

Her real issue is just that she fits in better eith superheroes than other kids.
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>>91319103
I can't believe how many smart people I know who don't understand this. Their opinions are always Truth, of course.
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