Justice League’s Steppenwolf Will Be a Motion-Capture Character

Snyder we get it
you liked Excalibur

>puts title of the article in subject line
>posts the article with link and nothing else
>uses the same image from the article

When did this place become Reddit?

cause cyborg looks so great m i rite

how about some fucking practical effects now and then hollywood. look at how nice star wars 7 looks.

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>>91313390
>look at how nice star wars 7 looks.

>>91313352
Did you prefer commentary?
Okay.
Because it worked so well for Doomsday, and Cyborg thus far.
Remember when DCEU defenders legit tried arguing that Cirian Hinds being cast meant Steppenwolf wasn't just going the model they used in BvS?
Lets all point at them, throw back our heads and laugh.

>>91312944
We knew this already

>>91312944
>who will be played by “Game of Thrones” star Ciaran Hinds.
hey not bad

>>91313390
No fuck practical effects for characters like this. Apocalypse and Ronan looked like shit. Thanos looks amazing.

Bring on the CG Stepphenwulf.

>>91313515
I'd prefer you didn't make a literal Reddit thread to farm (You)'s. If you don't like it, then just fucking make a thread and say it.

>>91313515
>Remember when DCEU defenders legit tried arguing that Cirian Hinds being cast meant Steppenwolf wasn't just going the model they used in BvS?
I can't speak for other people, but I only ever said the true statement that Steppenwolf will not be that color, because that is just what he looks like through Kryptonian skype and that story mural thing we see in MoS a lot.

>>91313917
>to farm (You)'s
You mean to submit a topic anon might want to discuss? Heaven forbid someone did that on a discussion board.
For the record, this is the format I've always seen it done. Title goes in the subject because it typically summarizes the content that will be the primary subject of the thread. The germane portions of the article is put in the OP to expand upon the subject, and provide more information regarded to it. The link goes at the bottom so I don't farm for "source faggot."
It isn't reddit. It is literally the most basic reasonable format to start a topic with information from another source.

>>91312944
Can't wait for this movie.

>>91315239
You're not allowed to have that opinion.

>>91313445

Prove otherwise.

>>91315345
The big pig thing drinking water on Tatoo- I mean Jakku, looks terrible. It looks like rubber over a wireframe.

>>91313352
shitposting alongside the news is better?

>>91312944

I'm not too fussed about Steppenwolf being CGI per se, but it does depend on how his design looks in general. While I get that the image OP linked is a blue print of sorts for his design I'm wondering how it will look when it's colorized, plus how the face looks.

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>>91312944

>>91312944

>Game of Thrones

Does every movie need someone from this show?

>>91315690
You can clearly tell where his real skin ends and the make up begins tho.
Practical babbies need to grow up.

>>91315764
And on cyborg you can literally tell where his real skin ends and the PS3 graphics begin, so what's your point?

>>91315893
>PS3 graphics
Why would I listen to a guy spouting one of the most stock memes around?

>>91315690
>it took thirty years, but we can finally turn dying men into cyborgs without sacrificing their eyebrows

>>91312944
Disappointing, but not surprising in the least. Christ.
>>91315690
I really do miss practical effects.

>>91316013
>Disappointing
how so
As mentioned before, Thanos looks fine.

>>91315893
>And on cyborg you can literally tell where his real skin ends and the PS3 graphics begin
If that's the power of a PS3 then I missed out.

>>91316050
I don't know. Its just that Steppenwolf, like a lot of the new gods, looks like a regular human. We really dont need to make him an overdesigned, CGI monster mash. And you cant really compare Thanos to him either, seeing how Thanos has more rugged features not unlike Darkseid (insert plagiarism joke). It just doesnt seem very subtle either. That said, I'll hold final judgment until actually seeing the design

>>91312944
This alone will guarantee a rotten score. Imagine if doomsday had a few lines in bvs and was the only villain. That's what Steppenwolf will be

>>91315690
You do know they used crappy stop motiom for Robocop right.

>>91316050
Not the same anon, but we haven't seen thanos in action at all. He just sits in a chair and grabs a gauntlet at the end of guardians (or ultron? I don't quite remember), so I don't think he's a very good example. Meanwhile, as anons have already mentioned, cyborg looks like shit from what we've seen.

Honestly, my biggest problem with the DCEU right now is how shit the costume designs are. I haven't liked a single one yet, with the exception of wonder woman and deadshot.

>>91316250
>This alone will guarantee a rotten score.
The greatest film ever made has a rotten score though.

>>91316050

>comparing a potential steppenwolf to thanos instead of cyborg in the same movie

bitch what

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>>91316260
>cyborg looks like shit from what we've seen.
Eh, I don't agree.

>>91316260
>my biggest problem with the DCEU right now is how shit the costume designs are.
I love Batman I think people that don't at least like his costume are trying too hard.

>>91316250
>This alone will guarantee a rotten score.
Directly competing with D*sney will guarantee a rotten score. The mouse does not allow others to play on "their" turf.

>>91316278
freddy got fingered was shit you petrol sniffing derro cunt

>>91316281
Can you read?
I was replying to a post talking about OP's Steppenwolf post.

christ on a stick

>>91313897
Ronan looked great.

>>91316309
My problem with Cyborg is that his design is needless busy, frail looking, and heavy on the CGI. A good blend of both practical and computer can do wonders, this just seems phoned in

>>91316355

it's on the same level as 2011 green lantern. we all know how that turned out.

I don't know why they would go down that road again.

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>>91316355
Again, I don't agree. His design is much better than some recent iterations.

>>91316387
>we all know how that turned out.
Do we?
That GL movie is pretty bland and middle of the road, but people act like it's some atrocity.

>>91316390

Jim Lee isn't exactly world renowned for his costume design.

Unless collars make your dick diamonds

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>>91316390
DCYou had the best cyborg design in a long time (2nd best ever in my opinion) and they threw it away for some clunky mess in rebirth.

>>91316421

>not an atrocity

high bar for the flagship film of the DCEU and the first appearance of the justice league on film.

lets compare it to the first modern appearance of batman on film (batman 1989) or superman's first (superman the movie) and ask ourselves is this something we should be satisfied with.

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>>91316428
>Jim Lee isn't exactly world renowned for his costume design.
Exactly. People are acting like this Cyborg is so bad, but it's really in the upper half of Cyborg looks.

Here's another shit look.

>>91316457
His face in that picture is more or less the same as his JL face/face armor.

>>91316479
Batman '89 is bland trash though.
Batman Returns is the only good Batman movie from that era.

And Hackman and Otis do their best to tank any emotion Superman 77 tries to build up.

>>91316260
>Honestly, my biggest problem with the DCEU right now is how shit the costume designs are. I haven't liked a single one yet, with the exception of wonder woman and deadshot.
That's actually my one real praise for the DCEU.

Don't care for Superman, Cyborg, or the Joker and the Flash is still kinda questionable, but the rest range from good-to-great. I think Batman, Aquaman, and Wonder Woman in particular look great. Harley Quinn had a great look in SS and so did Deadshot.

>>91316527

If you're that harsh in your criticism, you may want to temper your expectations for justice league.

>>91316561
Why?
I loved MoS and BvS- and SS, while not that good, had elements that I enjoyed. Like Leto's Joker.

>>91316592

holy shit, armond white posts on /co/

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>>91316491
>His face in that picture is more or less the same as his JL face/face armor.
But cyborg's face doesn't really change much. The thing that really bugs me is when it looks more like a big clunky robot from the 90s than a real cyborg. He should have at least some skin showing, without going overboard or looking like a guy who taped some tin plates all over himself (like your pic and his original design).
>People are acting like this Cyborg is so bad, but it's really in the upper half of Cyborg looks.
Yeah, but both of those are correct.

>>91316592
I rather liked Leto's performance, just not the visual direction they went with him which is the fault of the director rather than the actor

for gods sakes at least let the man have eyebrows

>>91316608
?
1 out of every 2 critics liked MoS.

>>91316621
>looks more like a big clunky robot from the 90s
I'd say the inspiration is pretty clearly bayformers aesthetic

>>91316621
>that picture
That's even more overdesigned than the real one.

>>91316621
That looks so much fucking better.

>>91316632

I agree with you there. I cringe at the idea of him appearing in reeves' batman movies unless they straighten out his appearance.

>>91316662
But I thought the complaint was that the JL costume was overdesigned?

>>91316650
Also this.

>>91316671
Looks less overdesigned to me. I like the plating over his shoulders and legs. Arms kinda suck still and I hate how they still haven't covered up his torso.

>>91316771
>Looks less overdesigned to me.
>I like the plating over his shoulders and legs.
But that's just adding more shit on top.

>>91312944
>“He’s old, tired, still trying to get out of his own enslavement to Darkseid, [but] he has to keep on this line to try [to] and take over worlds,” he shared.
Cool. I hope Darkseid actually doesn't care about him though in his ALE race, and that Earth only gets his attention once Stepps reports that Superman came back from the dead.

man it's gonna be horrible to see what they do to these kirby characters

>>91316864
I disgree. I'm going to enjoy it. The comics are still there m8.

>>91316390
Movie Cyborg looks like an anorexic Transformer to me.

>>91316800
It looks more defined than the Bayformers shit they have, with exposed parts and stuff everywhere.

>>91316864
>tfw we'll never get a New Gods movie with characters close to their comic book counterparts, with inspired visuals that incorporate stuff like CGI Kirby dots
I hope they boot Snyder before they get to Darkseid and let George Miller to direct a New Gods movie and/or JL sequels.

>>91317087
>George Miller
Happy Feet sucked.
Happy Feet 2 sucked even more.

>>91317133
Mad Max: Fury Road is one of the greatest action movies of all time and easily eclipses everything that Zack Snyder has ever done and that was Miller's most recent movie.

>>91317174
>and easily eclipses everything that Zack Snyder has ever done
Eh, 300 was better. Mad Max has even less of a story and it makes it hard to stay interested in the 2 hour non stop action.

>>91317193
>Eh, 300 was better.
You have fucking shit taste, just like every other Zack Snyder cocksucker on this board and /tv/. Jesus fucking christ.

>>91317218
I don't even think 300 was that amazing, I just know that Mad Max didn't have enough meat on the bone, even compared to 300.

>>91317253
That just makes your opinion even fucking worse.

>>91317354
rude desu

I really hate that we're drinking from the New God well already. Plenty of other characters they could have used as threats without jumping straight to Darkseid. Moreover, New Genesis vs Apokolips has enough material for its own movie. We could have gotten Orion as the main character too

>>91317174
>>91317218
I liked 300 but really Fury Road was the better movie

>>91317386
A New Gods movie without any Batman would not sell.
50,000 nerds would see it and that's it.

>>91317386
They're actaully going slower than the comic it's based off of.
Darkseid isn't in this movie, when he was in the first JL arc.

>>91317386
They'll be compared to Thanos if they don't use the New Gods first.

Imagine if Thanos appears then Darkseid. Imagine the RT scores. This way, they'll be dodging some of the damage.

>>91315764
Here's your (you)

>>91317489
I'm not baiting tho.
And I didn't say the CG looked good.

>>91313897
Except Ronan looked pretty good. Apocalypse was shit though.

>>91317386
Exactly. You have to build up to this shit. Starting out with the New Gods right off the bat just doesn't really work and creates so many fucking issues, like: what the fuck are they going to do once that's over with?

>>91317438
>A New Gods movie without any Batman would not sell.
People said the same thing about GotG and like half the movies Marvel has made. If Marvel can make those characters work and turn them into huge successes, WB can theoretically do the same with the New Gods.

>>91317452
There's another problem. No one liked Johns' JL. Why even adapt it?

>>91316278
But the original King Kong has a 98%

>>91317386

We're not getting Darkseid, we're getting Steppenwolf.

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>>91317438
>Swarms of Parademons fighting the forces of New Genesis
>Orion and Kalibak, each hating/wanting their adoptive fathers approval
>FUCKING DRAGON TANKS
>The Furies in their hot getups
>"This summer....The Gods go to war"
>Etc
With the right trailer, normies would eat that shit up anon. The added benefit is them finding out "oh shit, this is in DC comics?"

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>>91317457
>Imagine the RT scores.
Why?
Some of the best films i've ever seen have shit scores.

Going by Enchantress' bro in SS I'm not feeling it at all.

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>>91316333
>Snyderfags are so delusional they actually think the only reason their shit movies get bad reviews is because Disney pays off literally every critic
>Even though people who aren't film critics think it's shit too
>Even though WB owns Rotten Tomatoes

>>91317513
>You have to build up to this shit

How is this not building that shit? You're acting like suddenly the entire goddamn New Gods franchise is in Justice League, when it's just Parademons, Steppenjob and probably just a very small cameo from Desaad or/and Darkseid.

>>91317513
>People said the same thing about GotG
But the reason GOTG worked is because they crack jokes every five seconds. The audience is never going to feel challenged or intimidated if you have constant wise-cracks, le I am groot, and dadrock.

>you are now imagining a New Gods movie with quips every 5 seconds

>>91317452
>>91317457
It might as well be Darkseid anyway considering we're doing full Parademon invasion. Which Johns Darkseid/Justice League story was trash by the way. And yeah I get it, "Thanos/Marvel did it first!" they will cry, but does it really matter now considering they're basically redoing the fucking plot to Avengers?
>Cube Mcguffin
>Portals in the sky
>Endless waves of screaming aliens until the portal closes
>Turns out the guy behind it all is actually working for a big evil overlord
>Tech hero saves the day
I mean Darkseid is practically the end all be all villain, unless they decide to use the Anti-Monitor. Plus, what are they going to do once Darkseid finally shows up, throw more Parademons at earth?

>>91317558
>>Snyderfags are so delusional they actually think the only reason their shit movies get bad reviews is because Disney pays off literally every critic
Hey now, don't go pigeonholing. I love the DCEU but I don't think Disney pays off reviewers.

>>91317548
El Diablo's final form was great tho.

>>91317618
>they're basically redoing the fucking plot to Avengers?
But the first New 52 arc came out before The Avengers.

>>91317561
>How is this not building that shit? You're acting like suddenly the entire goddamn New Gods franchise is in Justice League, when it's just Parademons, Steppenjob and probably just a very small cameo from Desaad or/and Darkseid.
That's a decent point, but my own point still stands. By starting out with the New Gods, you're using one of your trump cards way too early. Not to mention using some of the most powerful antagonists at your disposal. What can follow the New Gods and actually feel like a threat other than going full Multiversal crisis and having the Anti-Monitor as your bad guy?

>>91317575
>But the reason GOTG worked is because they crack jokes every five seconds. The audience is never going to feel challenged or intimidated if you have constant wise-cracks, le I am groot, and dadrock.
The jokes were part of the appeal for normies, but you wouldn't necessarily HAVE to do the same to make audiences like your character. Just have your movie well-written, the roles well-acted, and your characters well-presented.

>>91317575
>Darkseid, more like DADseid, amirite, Orion?
>Shut up, Lightray

>>91317561
I think what the anon is trying to say is that going full Apokolips invasion out the gate is a poor decision, regardless if Darkseid shows up or not. Starro, Vandal Savage, Mongul, The Legion of Doom, Brainiac, all of which would have been acceptable options too

>>91317622
>I love the DCEU but I don't think Disney pays off reviewers.
Then congrats, you're not a Snyderfag.
I disagree, in that the only thing from the DCEU that looks promising is goddamn Aquaman, but different opinions are fine so long as no one feels the need to embarrass themselves.

>>91317622
It was decent, but Cyborg looks like trash, and Doomsday was also pretty bad.

>>91317675
>but Cyborg looks like trash
His face is great, and so is his demeanor.
>you should probably move
I'm happy so far.

>>91317670
>I think what the anon is trying to say is that going full Apokolips invasion out the gate is a poor decision
Why tho?
Especially is big D is absent?

>>91317648
You're acting like pulling from New 52 Justice League is a good thing. SPOILER: It was shit, just like Justice League War. And as far as casuals will be concerned, they will make the Avengers comparison and bitch. In short, doing New 52 origin was a very bad decision

>>91317711
>His face is great
I guess the 1/4 showed is, everything that's coated in CGI isn't though.

>you should probably move
>I'm happy so far.
You what?

>>91317719
>In short, doing New 52 origin was a very bad decision
I disagree, they are doing it, but correcting mistakes such as bringing in Darkseid too early.

>>91317670
>I think what the anon is trying to say is that going full Apokolips invasion out the gate is a poor decision
Oh yeah, this too. Like you already have Parademons everywhere and shit, it's already practically a full-blown Apokaliptan invasion sans Darkseid.

Like maybe introducing us to the New Gods via their own movie or a Superman sequel where we're introduced to them first via Intergang and we're shown they've been covertly prepping for an invasion of Earth this whole time would've been so much better.

And yes, starting off with literally anything else, Starro, Despero, the White Martians, whatever, would've been better than going full Apokalips.

>>91317660
>What can follow the New Gods and actually feel like a threat other than going full Multiversal crisis and having the Anti-Monitor as your bad guy?

You could stop with this power levels bullshit.

>>91317756
>And yes, starting off with literally anything else, Starro, Despero, the White Martians, whatever, would've been better than going full Apokalips.
But why?
Apokalips is the good stuff.
We don't need years of cock teasing like Marvel.

>>91317756

You've already seen Doomsday's rampage and Zod's alien invasion, dipshit.

>>91317711
Because lets say you do the Apokolips invasion first movie, you're basically going to get the same plot next movie only with Darkseid in the fray. And after that, anything else will seem kind of like a step down from "The god of tyranny/evil". I'm not saying we need to tease the ever living fuck out of Darkseid like Marvel sloppily did with Thanos, but cmon lets have some decent progression here

>>91317774
>We don't need years of cock teasing like Marvel.

Especially when it's fucking boring. Oh wow, Thanos sits on a chair. Again. Tune in next time when he might scratch his chin!

>>91317795
>you're basically going to get the same plot next movie only with Darkseid in the fray

Who says? Maybe next time it's an adaptation of Final Crisis and the entire world is suddenly under the influence of Anti-Life Equation.

>>91317795
>you're basically going to get the same plot next movie only with Darkseid in the fray.
No?
>And after that, anything else will seem kind of like a step down from "The god of tyranny/evil"
Also no. Mxy, Anti Monitor, Empty Hand, Mandrakk, Evil Justice League (inb4 they already are. it was only funny the first 8000 times) etc...

>>91317752
But isnt that a different kind of mistake in itself? Making JL 2 Darkseid invasion part 2 electric boogaloo? I mean you can feel differently about it, thats fine, its just that personally this seems like story told prematurely to me.

>>91317850
>But isnt that a different kind of mistake in itself?
Not seeing that logic at all.
>do X thing
>mistake

>don't do X thing
>mistake

>>91317863

clearly the answer is
>Do it like Marvel
>Except don't do it exactly like Marvel

>>91317840
I'll give you Anti-Monitor and Crime Syndicate, but at this time I don't really see WB pulling those off, much less the upcoming Justice League movie. But hey, I can always be proven wrong

>>91317758
But that's a logical progression.

Hero(es) fights bad guy(s) in first outing. Hero(es) fights bigger, tougher bad guy(s) in second outing. It's not fucking hard. It's a formula that fucking works.

>>91317774
>>91317808
This is blatant anti-Marvel shitposting.

>>91317885
>but at this time I don't really see WB pulling those off, much less the upcoming Justice League movie.
As a guy who loves MoS and BvS, I think they can.

>>91317891
>This is blatant anti-Marvel shitposting.
Are you saying that it's not possible to dislike Marvel's approach?

>>91317904
>As a guy who loves MoS and BvS
And that's exactly why your opinion should not be taken seriously.

>>91315961
underrated

>>91317913
>Are you saying that it's not possible to dislike Marvel's approach?
Well it's worked out pretty fucking well for them.

>>91317920
But 1/4 of critics at least liked BvS, and over half of critics liked MoS.

>>91317891
>But that's a logical progression.

No it's not, it's power levels faggotry with the illusion of progression. All you need from Justice League movie is this: the world is under a threat. After that you just need a compelling story.

By your logic, every movie after Infinity War is doing it wrong, since there literally can't be a bigger threat than Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet.

>>91317949
>But 1/4 of critics at least liked BvS,
Those are not good statistics.

>By your logic, every movie after Infinity War is doing it wrong, since there literally can't be a bigger threat than Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet.
And they're pretty obviously going to rethink their strategy with the Avengers movies after IW. If you think they won't, then lol.

>>91317949
>Tries to defend BvS by saying that, on a scale of 1-100, it's roughly a 25/100
You can enjoy the movie anon, but this was a stupid line of logic to follow.

>>91317988
Meant to quote >>91317950 for that second part.

My bad

>>91316344
>>91317508
he really didnt, he wasnt imposing at all, infact he was short as fuck.

>>91315239
same here anon

>>91318025
>>Tries to defend BvS by saying that, on a scale of 1-100, it's roughly a 25/100
That's not at all what one fourth of critics liking it means.
It means that 25% of people liked it.

Not that people thinks it's a 25/100 on a quality scale.

>>91317988
>And they're pretty obviously going to rethink their strategy with the Avengers movies after IW

Your entire argument is that you can't start with a big villain since nothing feels like a threat anymore, so how are the post-IW movies going to be any good with this logic? Have no villains at al- oh wait, that's basically been Marvel's approach all along, never mind.

>>91318058
It means that, out of 100 critics, roughly 25 would say it was a good movie.

If this was an exam, BvS would get about 25 out of 100 questions correct.

>>91318103
>It means that, out of 100 critics, roughly 25 would say it was a good movie.
yes
>If this was an exam, BvS would get about 25 out of 100 questions correct.
false equivalence

>>91315690
Cyborg looks like shit. But to be fair, Peter Weller could barely walk in that costume. That's not an option with the type of action scenes that JL will have.

Hell, even in just dialog scenes, Cyborg needs to have a lot more freedom of movement than Weller had in the suit.

>>91315736
Every movie could benefit from Ciaran Hinds.

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>>91315961
lel

>>91318223
>HE WAS A CONSUL OF APOKOLIPS!

>>91316491
So, is this iteration of cyborg only 3/5 a person?

>>91318211
the other characters have full body suits, you know. You can also have parts that are practical and fill the gaps with CGI.

>>91315408
>REEE 2 DESERT PLANETS, NOT MUH

This logic never ceases to amuse

>>91318648
>NOT MUH
?
The issue is that it shows laziness. Either create a new environment or just have it set on Tatooine. They're trying to copy Luke as a wayward kid on Tatooine anyway.

>>91318676
Star Wars has always been [insert environment] planet. People made the same argument about Starkiller Base and Hoth. I don't disagree with the Luke/Rey comparisons though

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>>91312944
>Steppenwolf
>A big guy in armor
>Will be mo-cap
Why?

>>91318698
>People made the same argument about Starkiller Base and Hoth.
And they are right?

There is absolutely no excuse for a THIRD planet killing laser that looks like/is a planet.

>>91318705
Why not?
What's wrong with mo-cap?

Makes it easier to make him really tall, makes it easier for him to be uninhibited by cumbersome prop armor during fight scenes.

>>91318705

Because Ciaran Hinds is 64 and they want Steppenwolf to be physically formidable against the League.

>>91318712
>Hoth
>Planet killing laser

I think you misread, anon

>>91318768
No, i'm pretty sure you mentioned Star Killer base.

>>91318712

Also, the Death Star looks like a moon, not a planet

>>91318780
The comparison they made was between Hoth and Starkiller Base, which is why I brought it up. This stems from the [insert environment] planet argument I was making earlier.

>>91318782
>moons don't look like planets
retard alert

>>91318871
You should probably get your eyes checked, anon. Also don't be proud of saying stupid shit

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As someone who absolutely loves the New Gods and all of Kirby's work, I'm super anxious to see what Snyder is gonna do. I liked MoS and BvS, and I enjoy the aesthetic he brings, so this isn't really a complaint about Snyder himself, it's a complaint about how the industry handles this kind of thing in general, and also how people handle the New Gods.
They are supposed to look just like us, they're Gods. I don't want fuckhuge CGI monsters. But it sounds like Steppenwolf is just wearing crazy armor. I can deal with that for him. Darkseid though, no thank you. He is a simple man, you know? He doesn't really go for extravagant.
Other thing I'm anxious about is the New Genesis side of Kirby's Fourth World. People always forget about it. The N52 reboot had no mention of New Genesis, just Parademons and Darkseid appearing out of nowhere. Not even Orion. (Casual) Fans always consider Darkseid to be a "Superman" enemy. Or the Justice League's. No one acknowledges the good Gods, but I hope the DCEU does.
Orion is one of my favorite characters.
This was more than I meant to type lmao

>>91313897
>Thanos looks amazing.
LOL

>>91318103

Judging taste via group think isn't a good way to judge something because you're trying to judge something subjective in the first place.

For example, lets say I gave a group of ten people chocolate ice cream and strawberry icecream, and lets say eight of them like the chocolate but only two liked the strawberry. It doesn't mean liking the strawberry icecream is wrong. It doesn't mean that strawberry icecream should no longer be produced because more people prefer chocolate.

Especially when strawberry ice cream outsells chocolate icecream, except when chocolate icecream produces it's absolute best.

>>91320658
Except that, applying this analogy to reality, only either chocolate or strawberry ice cream is produced at a particular time. And most people who like strawberry ice cream are assholes from /tv/ who ruined /co/ with their autistic chocolate versus strawberry company wars.

>>91312944
HE WAS A CONSOLE OF ROME