America Chavez is Latina AND Lesbian

>>91270693
>She wants to help others and she's doing her own thing
WOW! Quite original to a superhero, huh?

>>91270693
>America Chavez is Latina AND Lesbian
We known that for a long time now

>>91270693
>Latina
>She comes from a world which is literally the fanfiction of a gay sorcerer

>>91270806
This.
When has she ever really been Latina aside from looking vaguely brown?

>>91270693

There's a reason this is selling like shit.

>>91270806
How can you be a lesbian if you're from a dimension of only women? If there's only one sex, then concepts of heterosexuality and homosexuality literally would not exist to her and the entire culture of her home dimension. It's more like she's from a monosex species.

>>91270693
>CNN
How the mighty has fallen. Anderson and Wolf and Erin Burnett need to jump ship

>>91271038
Because it's badly written tripe?

BI-ERASURE!
RAGE!

>>91270693
>and she isn't the Latina you usually see on screen.
what fucking crack are they smoking?

>>91271347
I have no idea what that means, either.

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Wow so is being a lesbian all her character is going to amount to


Like i fucking hate that shit, you dont have gay characters for the sake of being gay or rather making everything about said character gay.

>>91270693
Maybe you should cry about it some more. That'll show 'em.

This self-fellating sort of liberal horseshit is just so disgusting. Who the fuck do they write this for? Just themselves?

What bugs me so much about America Chavez is that she's not a nice person. She either boasts about herself or threatens others. Where people say she's out to help others baffles me.

>>91270806
He wrote latinas into his fanfiction.

>>91271347
She's the kind of Latina you usually see through a screen

>>91271039
This, she is Cis scum

She is by definition not Latina at all. She just looks like one like how Superman looks like a white guy.

>>91271039
She experimented with guys for a little bit after she left her universe, and it wasn't for her.

>>91271038
We don't actually know the sales numbers yet.

>>91271192
No, because she's both female AND a minority. Both are sales poison.

>>91271466
Nu-uh.

She WAS straight. Created straight. Gillen made her gay to fit his "memery young adult" book. He also made the whole "gay fanfiction turned into reality". And you, motherfuckers on /co/, praised him for it at the time.

Guy is a fucking hack. The biggest of the kind.

>>91271039
If there's only women does that mean they also have penises? Do they reproduce by budding or something?

>>91271422
This. I can get its a personality thing but she never turns it off under some writers. It gets grating when there are situations that require a change in form.
Thats why code switching is a thing.
I dont speak the same way to my boss as i do to my friends. If she was really latina then she would have the same rules. The writer is(?) why does she not know this.

>>91270804
This is the modern western equivalent of the normal high-school student who suddenly has to save the world

House of Ideas amirite, lads?

>>91270843
she looks very latina, not all hispanics are mexicans looking

>>91271476
We don't? When will we?

>>91270843
She started out as a latina flying brick. Then gillen got a hold of her to fill the "America themed character" role in Young Avengers. He gave her more powers, made her a lesbian and did the dumb backstory with Wiccan.

So yes, she did start out as just Latina (and probably straight.)

Just be glad he didn't get Patriot like he wants and make him gay.

>>91270693
we've known both of these things for years. Where have you been?

>>91271347
She's not a maid.

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??

>>91271923
Remember, lefties don't read comics.

>>91271519
I liked his young avengers run :3

>>91271115
lol

>>91272069
Sadly this.

>>91271767
Later this month when March's numbers are posted.

>>91270693
Shows how (1) slow news media really is on picking up new stories that are really old and (2) how they only care when it sounds relevant to another issue.

>>91270693
>Wants to help others
>quits being a hero to go to college
Shill spotted.

>>91271893
Is it just me, or does she feel like One Punch Man, but without the benefit of being a parody.

>>91271923
Looks like batman is coming out of her asshole

>>91270693
Issue 2 (out tomorrow) is even worse than the first issue.

>>91272424
Wait what ??

>>91271394
Basically this^

Why do so many LGBT (I refuse to add anymore than that) feel like shallow cutouts rather than actual characters.

That's a rhetorical question by the way. I know these writers only want to add them for good boi bucks. After they have the character, they don't need to do anything else because every major comic website will inevitably suck their dick, even if your everyday fag doesnt.

>>91272424
How?

>>91271412
Probably, I know plenty of queers who find this shallow attempt to get their money irritating.

>>91270693

How is it that when Marvel characters go back in time, if they fuck up one tiny thing and then all of history changes or reality collapses or whatever but she comes from a universe where there are no men but EVERYTHING historically happened exactly the same?

>>91271422
How does she threaten others? I've only read the first book of her solo series and I didn't spot that.

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Real America WHEN

>>91272432
I can't scan it at the moment. I can give a summary. Reading/summarizing as I go here:

We start on Planet Maltixa with two brown girls looking up America online. The one girl has her hair dyed like Captain America's shield.

Meanwhile, back in WWII Peggy Carter gives America shit. America goes along with Carter to get info. Nazis drill into Carter's secret base, America, surrounded by Nazis star-punches the ground and leaves.

She lands in bed, crying over her girlfriend. Many panels of tears. She announces to anyone monitoring her she's done.

Meanwhile at Sotomayor University, some brown lady is meditating as she is the one influencing America into meeting Carter somehow. Then some campus shit where some white preps are annoying America, then the lesbian dance squad shows up.

Moon Girl is giving a lecture at the campus. Tells the audience how great she is. America thinks she's great. Some science mumbo-jumbo talk.

Later America is in X'Andria's room and someone throws a trash can through the window. Preps partying outside, America gets mad. Lesbo dance troup joins the melee and dance battles them.

The preps are revealed to have been cyborgs. Lisa (the ex) is revealed to have been kidnapped by...

The brown girls from page one show up upset that America hasn't responded to their beams (tweets). America vows to get them.

Then two pages of letters jerking off about how great this comic is.

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>>91270693
>you can call the token spicy latina a spicy latina

>>91271454
Another thing that bothers me is how she can be a Latina to begin with? I know Supes isn't a white guy, but he is defiantly an American, as one does not have to be born in America to be an American. But as far as I know, being Latino is to actually be a specific race of people. If super manly isn't white because he is an Alien, I assume that that same principal works on Chavez.

Also, Chavez was not raised in any Latin culture, unlike superman, who was raised American, so I don't think she should be able to claim being Latina, by definition.

>>91272619
That sounds awful.

>>91270693
Well, they have an add in the CNN now, maybe Tumblr . But, somebody buying? and the only selling point is that she's Latina Lesbian Miss America

>>91272593
Que es this?

>>91271038
Yes, because the public hates gay female, Latina leads.

>>91271039
A good writer might have actually have to deal with issues of being a hetrophobe or just have her make jokes about all the crazy sexual pairs she has seen from her multiverse hopping adventures.

>>91272658
Joe Casey getting salty over Marvel making his creaton a big deal without him.

>>91271519
Not all of us. There was a minority of us that were vocally disappointed to go from his fantastic JiM run to the complete shit he peddled in his YA run.

>>91270693
At this point I would be more surprised if Marvel managed to create a non-hyphenated character.

>>91272559
because women are capable of doing everything exactly the same as men and if you suggest they might be worse in anyway you're a mysogynist shitlord.

>>91272424
The storytime of pain tomorrow will be glorious.

The next dozen storytimes that will follow in rapid succession will be still.

>>91270693
>America Chavez is Latina AND Lesbian

Guys, GUYS... I've got some breaking news from the world of comics. I don't want to upset anyone some I'm going to spoiler this. Don't read it if you don't want your mind blown. Bruce Wayne is Batman

>>91272856
*shit.

Fucking autocorrect.

>>91272856
Hell yeah SDCC SOP week.

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>>91271394
>tfw the Japanese make their gays overblown stereotypes, yet still give them deeper characterization and natural likability than try-hard SJW American comic companies.

It'd be sad if it wasn't so amusing.

>>91271039
Get your logic out of here

>>91272619
>America, surrounded by Nazis star-punches the ground and leaves.
>She lands in bed, crying over her girlfriend. Many panels of tears. She announces to anyone monitoring her she's done.

What kind of transition is this?

America is delicious as fuck, and if the art in her on going was my taste I would buy it.

>>91271205
Also, Trans, Gay and Lesbian issues get more internet cred than bisexuals. We're either mythical, like unicorns or pegasus, or traitors to The Cause.

>>91270806
>>91271039
The Utopian Parallel has never really been figured out on page. Rivera isn't going to do shit to give us a good hook there but Ewing might. MAC is certainly much better in Ultimates than she is in America.

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>>91273693
>She lands in bed, crying over her girlfriend
The one she treated like crap because she didn't get what she wanted.

>>91270693

WELCOME TO LAST DECADE, SPORT.
Now please go cry about SJW elsewhere.

>>91270693
Quick question: Has anyone EVER seen a young latina wearing anything remotely american flag related?

>>91274389
Yes, at least in Puerto Rico.

>>91274389
Yeah, do you think it's impossible to be a latina and wear the red, white, and blue ensemble?

>>91274389
Latinos around here reeee at the mere idea that the US exist, so no, they are more likely to be the cuban/soviet union/venezuelan version of Bandit Keith. The British flag is also common, but just because you can find a shitton of foreing brands using it.

>>91272619
>Meanwhile, back in WWII Peggy Carter gives America shit. America goes along with Carter to get info. Nazis drill into Carter's secret base, America, surrounded by Nazis star-punches the ground and leaves.

Wait so America just leaves powerless Carter to be attacked by Nazis?

The pacing in this book is all over the place. I don't know if I'm retarded, but I actually found it difficult to follow issue 1

>>91274559
This is what happens when you get someone who never wrote comics before to make it.

>>91274582
Can you believed America book is being edited by moss https://comicvine.gamespot.com/wil-moss/4040-56390/issues-cover/

>>91273633
Bravo Parfait Man was a true hero, what are you talking about

>>91274559
>The pacing in this book is all over the place
Yes, just seems that the writter make America do everything she thinks is cool, like she goes to space to save some alien and then she goes to science Hogwarts and the she goes back in time to WW2 to punch Hitler.

>>91273633

Oren is best girl

>>91270693
>from fake news
Great this shit comic is not going to fade to obscurity any time soon huh?

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>>91272413
There's also a huge quality gap in the art between the two.

>>91272417
I can almost hear the elfman theme music.

>>91272619
As terrible as it is, I think it needs to cut EVEN MORE loose and go even more full insane parody of itself.


>>91274389
>>91274412
The technicality is that the PR flag is US flag related.

Pic related. It's chongas in star spangled bikinis.

>>91275165
That’s the flag of Cuba. Neither are related to the Star Spangled Banner anyway, other than the colors and they’re not even the exact same colors.

The real technicality in the case of Puerto Rico is that a lot of people are pro-Statehood (of PR in the USA), including many young women.

>>91274559
No, Carter leaves America down there as the Nazis are drilling in.

I'm sure my summary is missing some nuance, but I had a hard time actually reading it. Some pages my eyes just glossed over entirely.

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>>91275405
Fucking palette swaps.

Well, that PR people are US citizens is also a part of it.

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>>91270693
STORYTIME
>>91276459

That's silly. You can't be lesbian AND latina.
That's two minorities.
Next you are gonna tell me you can read both Marvel and DC.

>>91274135
Ok but do bisexuals even matter?
If you are in a relationship, you have to choose a side even if you still like to fap to the sex you aren't dating.
You either have an easy life as a person who seems straight to everyone else, or a life of discrimination as a person who seems gay to everyone else.

>>91270693
>You can't call America Chavez a spicy Latina

I can and I will.

>>91274389
Yes. When I went to Arizona there were a bunch of mexican people wearing american shirts.
One of those said "Made in America with Mexican pieces" or something along those lines.

Was she always lesbian? I fail to see how you can make character that hot a lesbian from conception.
That's the real kicker here Latinas in hot pants were always my thing, and the one comic character I find like that is lesbian!

>>91276772
Why does it matter? You'll never going to bang her.
Can`t you be a normal straight dude and enjoy the mental image of America fingering other girls?

>>91271923
Shhh.

>>91276802
I haven't looked for this, but I hope it exists: America chaves fisting star shaped portals into women.

>>91276802
Depends on your progression of fapping material. For me it was:

Playboy
Penthouse
Swank
Lesbian scenes
girls taking dick

At least that's as far as I've gone, no blowbang bukkake scenes for me or trannies.

>>91276802
I can.
But I also want to see her drenched in seman. And knowing she's lesbian ruins my mental picture.

It seems like the word "badass" has become a clear indicator that everything and everyone related to this shit should be burned in a giant incinerator.

>>91276888
>not having fantasies about converting lesbians

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>>91276864
vanilla fag get out
I bet you are over 30 too
disgusting

>>91276945
Real life lesbians are ugly as sin and gross as fuck.
No, I'm not talking the "lesbian" porn actors you immediately imagine.
REAL LIFE lesbians are revolting, "converting" that shit would be a living nightmare.

>>91277006
Who the hell is talking about real life here? Who?
You are in a damn filipino claymation forum, anon.
We are talking about damn fantasy.

>>91276945
I'm too PC for that.

>>91274710
Oren disproves the Female Rider curse.

>>91277038
That's fucking stupid. You should be ashamed of your shit-tier fantasy.

>>91274670
Hey, I love Oren too. I'm just using him as an example of a well-written gay character who is also stereotypically flamboyant.

>>91273633
I havent seen one gay male in anime that wasn't an overblown stereotype or likable.

>>91277098
you are fucking stupid because you can't even have fantasies about people who you aren't even going to fuck anyway

>>91277149
Even Tumblr enjoyed Yuri On Ice, no?

>>91277149
Samurai Flamenco.

>>91277230
Oh please they're not actually gay and never will be revealed as such, that's just pandering to the fujo audience.

>>91277261
I didn't watch it, I just assumed.

I guess you're right then. There's plenty of gay men romances in obscure Anime, but most of it is strictly Fujo pandering.

>>91277251
>Samurai Flamenco.
Same as Yuri On Ice, not actually gay and just fujo pandering.

>>91277261
You know how I can tell you haven't watched Yuri on Ice?

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>>91277251
Anon there's nothing gay about realizing love and proposing to your bro

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>>91270693
>From an alternate parallel dimension that is Utopian and has no influence of Earth of much less Hispanic culture or politics

>This alien humanoid creature that happens to have a moderate amount of melanin in her skin for some reason speaks spanish and associates herself with the hispanic community

How is she latina? Honestly I can't understand how she is Latina.

>>91277723
aliens literally speak english and look like blue humans with white features all around the same universe
deal with it, dude

>>91277528
I've literally watched all the episodes, and I'm telling you they pander as hard as possible and posture them being gay and giving each other rings, but they're not actually gay. It's not a bad show, but they're not explicitly gay or even romantic.

Does Yuri love Victor? Oh for sure, but I don't know if he's IN LOVE with him, as in a gay way.

>>91277149
Then you haven't been watching the right kind of anime.

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>>91271916
>America in a maid outfit

she should be

>>91277528
It's Japan. Unless we actually see the kiss or full on love confession or something that can't be ambiguous they aren't gay they're just super special buddies

>>91277762
yeah but Zod isn't white american or british, he is kryptonian and a reflection of that culture.

How does someone who isn't hispanic at all and has no connection to hispanic culture represent being hispanic.

That'd be like saying the klingons represent black people.

The only reason english is used is for the sake of the narrative.

This is just like all the TV commercials where the doctor is black and the robbers are white. Fake SJW BS.

>>91270693
Welcome citizen of 2010.

The current year is 2017 here's a list of things that you have missed out on over the past 7 years.

Rick Remender and Matt Fraction quit Marvel

Jeff Lemire and Charles Soule left DC for Marvel.

They relaunched the Superman movies with Zack Snyder and they kind of suck.

Geoff Johns is retconning the Nu52 as a creation god Dr. Manhattan from Watchmen.

Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton to become President.

They finally made a Deadpool movie.

Oh and Jack is back.

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>>91274180
I love the fact that her girlfriend not wanting to uproot her life and work a shit job to support America going to college makes her the bad guy.

>>91278251
I'm going to guess none of you giving OP a hard time for his subject line bothered to follow the link. This is the headline of CNN's article:
>America Chavez is Marvel's lesbian Latina superhero

>>91278287
But why would she not want to uproot her life for America Chavez? Didn't you see the first page of the comic? Everyone in the Marvel Universe thinks she's the greatest thing that's ever existed. How could anyone say no to that? She's a brown lesbian!

>>91278287
I just can't figure this out. Is this page actually some kind of subtle parody?
>brown-skinned America wants the white girlfriend to pay for her free ride through college
>Meanwhile in America IRL poor working-class whites, many of whom are unable to afford college, are forced to pay more taxes to fund federal programs for affirmative action quotas at colleges.

inb4 muh go back to /pol/, I'm not even white

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>>91278437
You're right I should have thought of that. All hail Miss America our lesbian empress.

>>91278287
it's horrible she won't move with America and live close to her. America, who's signature ability is to stomp a convenient portal that lets her travel through space and realities without any ill effects or be slightly winded
Do you know how much work it is to stomp your foot just to see your loved ones?

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>>91273633
Hell, I care more about pic related and his development from a sad lonely hedonist into a person who finds some self worth thanks to the love of a kind man than I do most of Marvels dumb pandering.

>>91270693
She was hot and straight in Vengeance when she was created by Joe Kelly (even dated Ultimate Nullifier), but Gillen turned her and a majority of the supporting cast into homosexuals in Young Avengers.

>>91277904
>>91277777
You sound like a straight up retard when that's not even how nips themselves perceived it.

>>91271422
>Where people say she's out to help others baffles me.

She's out to help others into the truefaith of the Church of the Holy Menstruation.

>>91278982
Please tell me how you know how nips perceived it and what they thought of it. Enlighten me.

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>>91270693
desu i really like her character, but the way she is, shitty writers will really want to get her hand on her

which sucks cause there is a lot of potential here, fucking shitty liberal mindset of today

she was her best under Ewing

>>91270806
i thought this the other day too

>>91270693
Such nuanced writing and subtle thematic storytelling.

>>91278899
Sauce?

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what is it with comics thinking lesbians look as good as their lesbian characters

>>91273633
Mr 2 bon clay managed to be a ridiculous stereotypes while also being an awesome character. And he was a fucking crossdresser.

Latina isn't a fucking defining characteristic. From what culture or country does her heritage belong to?

Her Spanish is all over. Was ANYONE with ANY familiarity or knowledge about ANY Hispanic culture involved in her creation?

Its like saying she's European.

>>91277251
Both Samurai Flamenco and Kill la Kill were pretty good lampooning of established setups.

No mention of that "Latinx" bullshit? I'm surprised

>>91279848
Like her Pop Culture worship Princess Leia stuff. Be nice if someone would work out her background instead of just magical space Lesbian from magical space Lesbian parents in magical Lesbian space. That happens to be Hispanic for some reason. Make her proper Alien not some bizarre homosexual fanfics.

>>91271039

Back home they wouldn't have such concepts, but if she's a woman that likes women and came to a dimension where they have a name for that, of course she'd call herself by that name.

>>91270693
And trans!
Also Muslim.

>>91272069

Fuck you, I read far too many comics.

>>91272619
Bit sad that this is getting officially published and the writer is getting money for this

>>91273633

I really wish there was a Big Gay List of cool Japanese homos.

>>91270693

It's the easiest thing in the fucking world to make a lesbian character, big whoop.

>>91271039
Yeah, yeah, whatever you say, Sugar.

>>91271747
>looks very latina
>mexicans looking
Mexican is a Nationality dingus also last time I was in Spain about a year ago in Barcelona there were a lot of brown people so you can't really speak about "muh hispanic white race" anymore especially since Spain got occasionally raped by moors.

The US only gets brown people because the White Mexicans don't have a reason to leave their comfy homes in Mexico, plus the Mennonite communities of whites, the Asian Mexicans in Baja and recently the Haitian refugees that arrived are gonna star a new boom of Blaxicans.

>>91279110
You don't pay enough attention to nip twitter.
There's also this roundtable where the director's friend and some others talk about how homo it was and how the gay was normalized which was refreshing http://news.nicovideo.jp/watch/nw2611056