So does this make Nextwave dated or does the joke still work

>>91239982
More hilarious in retrospect

The thing that actually dates it is the fact that most people reading it now probably haven't read anything Ultimate and won't get the joke

>>91239982
Ironic thing is she's more American than Americans are.

Do you think Elsa voted Leave or Remain?

>>91240545
Leave.

>>91240545
She doesn't strike me as somebody who's down with democracy to begin with, so she would certainly vote remain.

It never really made sense, because Britain never used the Evro, did they?

>>91239982
The Euro sign didn't make much sense at any point because the British never adopted the Euro.

>>91239982
Funny thing is, this is exactly how stupid Captain America looks like to us non-Muricans.

>>91240978
>jokes

>>91240915
yeah clearly

she also licked a goat like all leavers

>>91240944
>elect people to a parliament where they outright refuse to do their jobs and act in your interest
>keep voting for them when they tell you nobody out there is acting in your interest
>won't buy ugly bananas so importers don't even try selling them to you
>"why can't bananas be any shaaaape waaaah"
>benefit from open borders
>Ireland must go back to the troubles! Gibraltar must be closed off from Spain and kept British even though remain vote was over 90%!

c'mon m8 you're smarter than this

you're not even trolling at this point, just rolling around in blood threatening to stab yourself again

>>91241080
>Ireland must go back to the troubles!
Only until the Damned Orange Men finally fuck off

>>91239982
Maybe she'll be retconned to be Scottish.
Those guys would rather leave GB than the EU if it were up to them.

>>91241101
>i'd rather have an eternity of violence than accept something more than 90% of people in EIRE and NI voted for in 1998
>everyone knows twenty years of peace just leaves you itching for another Omagh

>>91241167
Yeah, well they're not going to get a choice from the looks of it. May decided that they're not going to allow another independence referendum.

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>>91241179
>rather have an eternity of violence than accept something more than 90% of people in EIRE and NI voted for in 1998

It was a ruse

>>91241080
>c'mon m8 you're smarter than this

I'm from continental Europe, Anon. I'm endlessly baffled that the EU parliament seems to give more fucks about the people than our national parliaments.

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>>91241080
>mfw I hate England and Hate Germany more
>mfw Brexit is the ultimate Win for Columbia

>>91241179
I want them gone, desu

>>91241080
>benefit from open borders
I don't think most people have benefited from cultural enrichment

>>91241362
Originally, it was fine, because only good Countries were in the EU. Once they let in the shit ones, poor people stormed in.

At least the EU hasn't gone full retard and let in Turkey. The Nukes won't even work then

>>91241080
>he drank the Brexit cool aid.

The funny thing now, is that the EU will take decision and you will have no say in the matter. Your country basically give up his weight in the world balance.

>>91241386
>Implying the Anglo-Alliance isn't immediately Nascent

>>91241410
The only way for England to mater again is to become a new State of the USA.

THE US will be thrilled at first, but tne they will feel disappointed once they realise Scotland is not part of the package.

How are the UK people feeling about Scottland leaving and messing with their flag?

>>91241431
England, AUS, NZ, and America will Unite in Confederacy.

All the Proper Anglic Nations

>>91240989
Fuck off fag, Aussies love cap you unpatriotic lower than shark shit scoundrel

>>91241455
I've heard a lot of retards lately talk about this except they aren't being ironic and genuinely think it will happen.

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>>91241511
>He still denies the Memes
Fool, have you yet to learn?

As a Dane, I hoped that the Brits would vote to remain, since now Denmark is the odd one out in the EU. Before we at least had the UK to back us up, so that we didn't stand out as much.
I'd rather have had them remain so we could try and fix the shitshow that is the modern EU, but I know that we're too small to do it alone, so that won't happen now.
I can see us leaving in the next couple of years too, if shit continues on as it does now.

>>91241585
This was my thought too.

On one hand, Britain being one of the EU's big three could lead it to checking Germoney and France, but on the other, that wasn't really working.

If Britain manages to be moderately successful, it could lead to other Euroskeptic states leaving. If more paying states leave, Germany will have to pay all the leeches alone.

>>91241614
I mean, I don't hold anything against them for choosing to leave, but I had hoped that we could be able to fix things instead of just letting it crash and burn.

>>91241614
Well we've got a President now declaring a direct trade deal with Britain to be on the table. Instead of a President threatening to put Britain at the back of the line.

Some say if Obama had just kept his mouth shut remain might have been able to pull out a win.

>>91241631
Nah it wasn't going to happen. When their solution to problems was "Well lets create are own EU Army." Yea something is going Reich.

>>91241632
I can't believe he made such a misstep, going to Britain and saying "If you don't vote this way America's going to basically disown you" was a pretty blatant threat.

I don't know what he thought the reaction would be.

>>91241614
Viva Le Pen!

Bigger dark horse than Trump if she manages to make it. Nobody thinks she's going to make it past the first round.

>>91241660
It's clear that the German/Belgians are trying to create a European Super State.

I don't want to go full /pol/, but that may be a reason they're so eager to introduce a large group of people with more allegiance to the EU than to any Independent Nation.

If it were truly Humanitarian, you'd think they'd want to make sure that most of the people they're letting in are the people fleeing from a war.

>>91239982
Unfortunately that's what happens when you decide to write in a real world reference in a book. It's great at the time, but when you read it years later it doesn't make much sense. And the worst part is, a lot of people don't realize you should read/watch things with the perspective of it having taken place then instead of now

>>91241666
>I don't know what he thought the reaction would be.
Satan please, you know what he thought would happen

>>91241666
>I don't know what he thought the reaction would be.

That people would do what the US tells them to do simply by virtue of them being told what to do by the US. Like most US politicians, he hasn't realized that the US dropped in popularity in the last 16 years.

>>91241179
>EIRE
is that an acronym? no?

>>91241737
Eire is the name for Ireland, referring to The Republic of Ireland.

>>91241707
>>91241731
He could've put it a bit more tactfully and gone on about the importance for alliances but he had to go with the we're gonna fuck you over if you don't do it our way approach.

>design your headquarters to look like the Tower of Babel
>put swastikas in your recruitment propaganda

The EU is weird.

>>91241777
Nah they know exactly what they are. Rest of Europe just doesn't get it yet.

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>>91240268
Came here to post this.

>>91241896
That doesn't seem like something that Cap would say. I know that's Ultimate Cap, but still. Is he really that different?

>>91241925

Yeah, he's a fucking douchebag.

>>91241680
It's about votes and cheap labor, man. The elites pushing for immigration don't care about the discord and danger because they're safe and secure in their plush fortresses.

>>91241925
Ultimate Cap is actually one of the rare characters of the Ultimate Universe to not be a complete Asshole. This comic pge here showcase him a bit out of character.

To better understand the context of this comic, it was done when Jacques Chirac, then President of the French republic, officially anounced he will not support the US on their invasion of Iraq. Back, the, France Foolishly believed that such a war would increase terrorism rather than quell it. How silly of them.

>>91241925
Ultimate Cap from Ultimate America!
He's the Goddamn Captain

>>91241949
It's about providing protection for people fleeing conflict.

A similar conundrum was faced by the UK when they had to deal with Jewish refugees, at the risk of letting in Nazi spies.

>>91241975
Another problem is that a bunch of them aren't fleeing anything besides shitty economies.
The biggest problem is figuring out who an actual refugee and who's just a migrant.

>>91242000
>a bunch of them aren't fleeing anything besides shitty economies.
I can pretty much guarantee you Syria is a fucking hellhole, though.

>>91241925
Dude was an asshole for the longest time until Ultimate Spidey took the bullet for him that would've killed Cap but ended up killing Spidey (this happened after Cap chewed him out for being too inadequate to be a hero even though Peter idolized the guy.) Cap stops being Cap for a while as a result, then comes back a more humble hero that also becomes president for a bit.

>>91241614
>but on the other, that wasn't really working.
Because GB had to be a special little snowflake that just wanted to exploit the EU for benefits while contributing as little as possible. Of course nobody listened to them.

>>91241896
>>91241958
Well France is certainly surrendering now to the Muslims. You'd think the 40s would have taught them their lesson.

>>91242036
>France
>not giving up
Pick one

>>91242023
>second highest contributor to the EU
>contributing as little as possible
m8

>>91241925

Yes. He's a real man out of time, he's a 1940s guy with 1940s values who can't socialize with people his age and spends all his time in old folks homes.

That page lacks context, later on he admits it was kind of stupid and a spur of the moment thing. He wasn't really sure what he was thinking.

He's a flawed character, purposefully so.

/co/ bitches and moans because despite Ultimate being a fresh clean slate brimming with potential for new takes on old ideas, they just wanted it to be the same old shit. Now it is.
Hooray.

>>91241896
I still can't believe this is written by the same man who made Cap surrender in Civil War

>>91242007
And most people are fine with letting Syrians in, since their country is war torn, they have, or at least had, ISIS breathing down their neck, and they're some of the more "compatible" middle eastern countries do to their large population of Christians, and relatively good education.
The problem is all the people from north Africa, where the only problem is the countries being shitholes.

>>91241585
>>91241614
Meh, pretty much everybody bent over backwards to accomodate the Brits, but the pigfucker decided that he would totally take the gamble when the british media had been reporting about the EU the way the german media's reporting on the US for well over two decades.

>>91242023
They pretty much were allowed to dictate the general framework of EU politics whenever neither Germany nore France felt that issues of national policy were at stake.

>>91241925

People keep saying that's it's the new take on the character, but most likely it's what hack faggot Millar thinks being cool and righteous is supposed to be like. In the same ark he wrote Banner as a pathetic beta manchild who assaults women on his power trips and gets bullied for laughs.

>>91241680
>but that may be a reason they're so eager to introduce a large group of people with more allegiance to the EU than to any Independent Nation.

Jesus Christ, are you even from Eurasia?

>>91241680
>It's clear that the German/Belgians are trying to create a European Super State.
And the problem with this is...?

It's funnier now, because the emblem on her chest represents failure and the ruined dreams of corrupt elderly bureaucrats.

>>91242036
>Well France is certainly surrendering now to the Muslims
Not really. Don't believe all memes are true.

>>91241680
The EU did not "let people in".
The Greeks had no capacity to stop them, and the hungarians waved them on, often giving them busses.
The EU has no real control over external migrant policy.

>First episode of Season 3
>Rick causes the space EU to implode by destroying the space Euro

Beautiful.

>>91241585
>I'd rather have had them remain so we could try and fix the shitshow that is the modern EU,
We've been trying for forty fucking years. Did you not see Cameron trying to sort it out before the referendum?
>Fix the CAP? No.
>Fix the CFP? No.
>Stop the Strasbourg shuffle? No.
The EU laughed in his face, which is why Remain focused on the economic difficulties of leaving.
That and Obama's threats were probably the two things that swung it for Leave.

>>91242098
Most Europeans don't see themselves as European, besides their country being located on the continent. Most of the earlier countries that joined the EU did so because it's pretty good to be able to trade with your neighbors on equal terms.
But most countries have nothing in common culturewise. The north have nothing in common with the south, and the west have nothing in common with the east.
People don't want to have other countries to decide what's best for them, and would rather be able to govern themselves, and keep the values that they hold dear.

>>91242128
>The Greeks had no capacity to stop them
The Greeks used to just shoot them.

>>91242153
I think I'm just a bit too optimistic that they would actually be able to see reason with how the actual populations of the countries are reacting to their shit. But I guess that they are too dead set on their dumb little mega state at this point that it's to no avail.

>>91242153
>>91241632
>>91241666
>>91241731
Obama was such a jackass.

>>91241386
The only people who think like this are either hyper-liberal american retards or hyper-Socialist European retards.

The EU has hampered UK growth for at least a decade now.

>>91242023
We were the third biggest contributor behind France and Germany.

The issue was the UK had little to no say in the EU because Germany and france would countermand every proposal.

>>91241080
I like the fact that you are skirting around issues such as Spain being autistic enough to start making threats about Gibraltar and threatening to support Scottish independence when they have their own issues with the Basque separatists

If the EU also bang on about Northern Ireland the US is going to have to get involved again like in the Good Friday agreement


>>benefit from open borders

yeah until Merkel let everyone and their dog into Europe and even then that was only the employers

>>91242153
Obama was a real tool in the end

>>91242098
Europeans would lose their identity.
It doesn't work because Europeans are too different from each other.

>>91242165
European countries at least have some interest in keeping Russia and China at bay. Also maybe the US, too if Trump actually manages to pass bills at some point.

>>91242209
The Ireland issue is solved by giving everyone Dual Citizenship like Turkey does with germany anyway, so this whole "B-But Northern ireland" thing is literally nothing but EU propaganda.

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Earlier panels imply that Elsa equates America with having a victim complex. I like to think that she supports the Eurozone's ideals of cooperation and not blaming forn'ners for all your problems.

Elsa is unlikely to suffer any consequences as a result of Brexit because she is an impossibly wealthy immortal monster hunter.

>>91241896
Ultimate Cap represents modern America as imagined by Mark Millar, who is a shit. 616 Cap represents the idealism of 40s/50s America as imagined by a bunch of pretty liberal New York jews.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j-Gb8Pk2Pk

>>91242189
When was the last time the US president wasn't a jackass?

>>91242211
>Europeans would lose their identity.

Unless the EU turns the whole subcontinent into the Netherlands geographically, that isn't going to happen.

>>91241285
Brexit gives Germany near-unchecked sway in Europe while France keeps hamstringing itself politically and economically and little opposition once it stops.
With the main European trade market moving to Frankfurt, ongoing weakness of the South and most of the rest firmly rallied to Merkel's cause, this could be the road to the USE.
GB could well fall apart with Gibraltar and Scotland out, Ireland uninterested in being divided again and England without friends in Europe.
Either Germany wins (more influenxe over EU, more support for integration) or everybody loses (Europe divided again), as it seems right now.

>>91239982
Well, nothing says pro-EU like a Euro fanshirt.

>>91242262
Roosevelt?

>>91242289
>everybody loses (Europe divided again)

Why is this a loss? The continent has 2,000 years of history of being "divided". In fact the EU is just building more animosity between the nations as internal faults now become external problems for everyone else.

>>91242289
So let me get this straight. The UK is going to lose Scotland and Gibraltar because a third world country says so, while the UK has finally thown off it's biggest shackle ever.

Fun fact mr EU shill, the EU crashed New Zealands economy because it vetoed New Zealand trading with the UK.

>>91242334
Teddy or FDR?

>>91242342
Because in the 2000 years of countries being divided, we've never had peace between all of them for over 70 years and counting.

>>91242342
>Why is this a loss?

We went from 1.5 wars every year to no wars for seventy years and the half of our continent that was turned into Russkie colonies regained their freedom as well.

Dunno why we'd want to go back to Russkies rolling tanks over our folks while we're being forced to kill each other ever again.

>>91242382
Teddy at least. Don't know too much about Franklin, to be honest.

>>91242349
>the EU crashed New Zealands economy

The weak should fear the strong.

>>91242384
>>91242392
If a union is responsible for this why hasn't there been a war between other western nations that aren't in a union?

Also, you confused NATO with the EU, please don't do that. It's NATO that halted Russian expansion, not the EU.

>>91242401
Not really the motto the EU goes by. New Zealand was doing fantastic with the UK as a trading partner so the EU stepped in to stop it.

Now the UK is out of the EU, and already is looking to strengthen the commonwealth with Australia and New Zealand giving a big thumbs up.

I work for a software recruitment firm and we often deal with Immigration to new Zealand and Australia. These have only increased. Hell, Australia was talking about free movement between the UK and Australia and as a Commonwealth ideal.

That's what Europhiles always fail to see; the UK has the commonwealth and always had the commonwealth.

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>>91242392
>>91242384
>it's another "anon contributes the victories of NATO to the EU" episode

>>91242165
So you have never been on a European university campus.
Young people tend to see themselves as Europeans often even before a national identity.
And while they are very different from one another, they do share values and interests.
Source: My life surrounded by European people from different countries living together with little to no problems.
It really seeps into the families when relatives of various nationality are the norm rather than the exception.
And even if you are in a Polish backwater where no tourist ever comes, you will find the store stocked with cheap European products you could not afford without EU trading. Cheese from Netherlands, France, Germany. Wine from Italy and Portugal. Spanish sausages vegetables. Feta and olive oil from Greece. A car from a Czech brand owned by a German conglomerate assembled by Romanian workers from Irish parts.
Believe you me, there is a lot of good reasons for people to stay in the EU.

>>91242420
>If a union is responsible for this why hasn't there been a war between other western nations that aren't in a union?

Greece and Turkey had a war, Russia re-invaded plenty of its colonies, the Balkans imploded.

>>91242349
I'm sorry, but why would NZ try to have a bilateral agreement with GB before they are out of the EU?
Such an agreement would probably violate European law, anyway.
Otherwise they could not interfere.

>>91242478
>university campus

Spoilers: the ones most detrimentally effected by the EU don't go to university.

>>91242516
Because the EU regulates trading from into the EU.

The same thing happened last year with Chinese Steel, EU vetoed the UK deal.

>>91242478
You're not from the UK are you?

>>91242478
I never said people should leave the EU, because as I said, it is, or at least was, a good trade deal. But I can tell you that people aren't Europeans foremost. They're citizens of their country, then the region that their country is in, and THEN they're Europeans. Scandinavians see themselves more as such, Brits more as such, Baltics more as such, and I'm almost willing to bet that the Mediterraneans see themselves as that, before they see themselves as European.

>>91242478
You're one of the people who defend the failed concept of multiculturalism with "look at the choice of restaurants" aren't you?

If you're a struggling fisherman you don't care if your cheese is exotic continental cheese, or if it's cheddar.

>>91242444
>New Zealand was doing fantastic with the UK as a trading partner so the EU stepped in to stop it.

Most likely the Brits bought cheaply from NZ and shipped it on into the EU. But yeah, EU agricultural policies are fucked an apparently were fuel to the embers of civil war in Ukraine on top of the usual ways they ruin folks in Africa.

>>91242580
Actually, if I recall, it was because we stopped buying from the Netherlands because NZ was cheaper despite the importing costs.

The EU was only ever out to profit the EU, while Britain has ALWAYS been a more global port.

>>91241585
There is no fixing the EU, it's going down the same ruinous path that all empires go down, only it is incredible how streamlined the process became.
Whether Britain stayed or went was irrelevant, it's unsustainable.

>>91242444
>Anglosphere will reign supreme again
Suck a dick krauts

>>91242592
>The EU was only ever out to profit the EU, while Britain has ALWAYS been a more global port.

Nah, the EU's main point was to create institutions that reduce and redirect frictions that would've previously caused wars between its members by means of common control, quotas and subsidise payments.

"The EU" is more or less an empty shell that contains all the people and institutions required for that and it has preciously little scope outside of the interests of its member nations. It ain't looking out for "its" interests.

>>91242650
It's not even that, it's just the EU has forgotten Bureaucracy is no replacement for Diplomacy.

Ask a Brit, we always like dealing with people face to face.

>>91242478
If you are looking at a university as your sole petri dish sample of society, your results are going to be very skewed.

>>91242659
> the EU's main point was to create institutions that reduce and redirect frictions that would've previously caused wars between its members by means of common control, quotas and subsidise payments.
That was never, ever, the EU's original goal, at least never in relation to Great Britain. It was a single common market that has burgeoned into something it swore it wouldn't become.
If it 'ain't looking out for it's interests', why does an economic union require a standing army?

>>91242763
You mean something everyone but Britain wanted it to be.

>>91241254
Only if those people are third world Muslims.

>>91242776
Britain has the right idea.
I attribute the long peace to NATO, and the various form of nuclear threat Russia has posed since WW2 ended, forcing cooperation. Not to mention stability threatening scarcity becoming a thing of the past in the Western World.
But the idea that International Bureaucracies can resolve National conflicts is laughable, look at the job the UN did when handing out the Israeli/Palestine Partition Plan. Now you see the same disastrous response to the Migrant Crisis. No long term vision or planning.

>>91242763
>That was never, ever, the EU's original goal

Euratom and European Coal and Steel were exactly that. The cooperations that grew from it ultimately always were about creating a common forum and common rules that would allow its members to fix shit without having to punch each other in the gut. Heck, even the Euro was the French agreeing to german unification because they figured they'd have a hold on the German economy by means of the common currency.

>>91242840
The EU's policy of drowning Africans in the seas ad locking the survivors up on Lampedusa worked pretty well while we had a couple of dictatorships covering our flanks.

So thanks Bush for destabilizing three quarters of Eurasia.

>>91242874
I could also blame the continued idiotic foriegn policy that the Neo-Con/Libs continued, those retarded excursions against Libya and the botched support for 'moderate' rebels in Syria.

The most hilarious aspect of EU agricultural policy is probably that we still depend on imports while at the same time producing enough to casualy crush other nation's agricultural industry.

>>91242898
Meh, there's some argument to be made about a speedy regime change being better than over a decade of occupation.

I mean unless you're trying to pull that off in a nation that's been kept in check by its dictator separating its people along tribal allegiances.

>>91240545
Whatever her stance I liked to think she'd suck the dick of everyone who voted the same as her

>>91241949
This doesn't make any sense given minimum wage laws. And even then in immigrants never make up even a percent of the population

>>91241680
anon, what are you on about? The Belgians hate towel-heads.

>>91243176
>This doesn't make any sense given minimum wage laws
Wat.

>immigrants never make up even a percent of the population
Double wat.

On the assumption that you're not being retarded on purpose, cheap labour prevents the minimum wage from increasing in line with inflation. Why pay a brit £6 an hour when you can pay a romanian £4? Or twelve chinese £2 an hour?
And immigrants make up considerably more than a percent of the population. In the UK alone it's around 13%.

>>91243265
Population =/= state. The Belgian state (and indeed most western european states) is vastly more in favour of mass immigration than the Belgian public.

>>91243265
Belgium will be majority Islamic in a few decades.

>>91239982
>sweet, a nextwave thread!
>nope, it's a /pol/ thread!

>>91242384
>Because in the 2000 years of countries being divided, we've never had peace between all of them for over 70 years and counting.

Roman empire.

Buuuut, that was just about 2000 years ago. I see your point.

>>91243302
Couple of years after the Us has returned itself to Mexico, yes.

>>91239982
Makes it funnier

>>91243316
>Roman Empire
>at peace

Anon, travel in the Empire was a lot more unsafe than travel in Detroit.

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>it's an americans talking about the EU as if it was a country and as if they understood anything about it episode

I'm glad I'm living in a time where Sinn Féin are using meme magic to finally reunify Ireland.

I hope the English feel silly when it's just them and fucking Wales

>>91242262
right now

>>91242448
I keep seeing this image posted around nowadays. Is it cropped porn? Please tell me it is.

>>91243334
Hell no, if anything, travel was safe. They had roads built and patrols protecting them. It was the reason the empire flourished - trade was made easy by the fact that you could actually travel around without having to worry about being bushwacked every other turn.

Up until the germans and huns started raping and pillaging bi-weekly, anyway.

>>91241101
Tiocfaidh ár lá.

>>91241101
>Only until the Damned Orange Men finally fuck off

What does Trump have to do with Ireland?

>>91242124
Please, not so long ago we let the Turks have a meeting where people were separated by gender. Do you realize how weak your people have to be to let that happen in their own country?

>>91245316
Turks are already invading some countries with Pro Brotherhood Style Groups. Trying to Resurrect their old Empire in Europe.

That film on the Armenian Genocide is gonna lead to some fun.

>>91239982
Oh, Warren Ellis, I love you.

Elsa would have voted to stay with the EU. Ellis, himself, is open about his opinion on why Brexit is utter rubbish. Ellis is anti-Brexit.

He also supports punching Nazis in public. By Nazis, he means actual genocidal, racial purity Nazis, and not the modern, nebulous definition used by so many today.

>>91240545
Remain. Ellis is against Brexit, and would totally write Elsa telling people who supported Brexit to fuck off. If only to offend snowflake mentality.

>>91243520
Yyyep. They don't even get just Britain right.

>>91247000
Ellis is British. He lives in Essex.

>>91241382
>Once they let in the shit ones, poor people stormed in.
except most of the UK immigrates are from ex-colonies, which access isn't covered by Schengen so...

>>91247945
France is elbow deep in blacks for the same reason too (people from the african ex-colonies immigrating).

This is all before the current syrian immigration crisis, mind you.

>>91243656
>Hell no, if anything, travel was safe.

Yeah nah, banditry and piracy was so rampart that they listed them alongside natural disasters and accidents as stuff that could easily happen to travellers.
Rome and other cities weren't safe at night unless you travelled armed, in groups and with plentyful light either.

Rome was an absolute shit by modern standards.

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>>91241925
He apologizes for saying that and tells Fury it was a stupid thing to say.

That said he's a jerk in the battlefield because he's all business there but he's kinder in his civilian life.

Also him and Tony got along better than their 616 counterparts mainly because Ultimate Cap is less judgemental of people's flaws and Ultimate Tony was MCU Tony without the asshole.

>>91243300
>cheap labour prevents the minimum wage from increasing in line with inflation.
You could just make a LAW requiring minimum wage being in-line with inflation.
No exiting the EU needed.
But SOMEONE liked paying foreigner immigrates cheap, so UK never bothered to fix that in-house problem...

>>91248122
>Rome was an absolute shit by modern standards.
but by Ancient standards it was awesome secure

>>91248122
That was before & after the roman empire, not during. They had to keep trade secure; Rome was a gigantic city for its time, and could not have supported itself without it.

Once the empire collapsed, yeah, things got to shit. But while the empire was stable and at peace, the roads were relatively safe. They also had navy patrols too, lots of lighthouses built, etc.

Note that I say relatively safe, as in relative to ancient times. It's not modern times you should compare its safety to, but to the rest of the world at the same ancient times. Compared to which, the Roman Empire was pretty fucking safe.

>Rome was an absolute shit by modern standards.

Modern standards being what, women being raped during the day in Paris and Munchen during the last new years eve festivities?

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>>91242013
He had a good reason to chew him up since Spidey fucked up big time while Steve was chasing criminals causing Steve to lose daid criminals.

He knew Spidey was a teenager and told him to hang up his webs because he was afraid Spidey would get killed (which ended up happening) and later he agreed to train him instead of forcing him to quit.

It's also not so different to how tje 616 Avengers acted in the older comics, before YA teen heroes were controversial (X-Men had the excuse of being a school and no one knew Spidey was a teen when he started) and the Avengers didn't accept underage members.

Ultimate Cap felt guilt because Spidey took the bullet fired by the Punisher that was aimed at him. He also felt guilt because afterwards War Machine collapses the bridge they were in and the Ultimates fall into the water and are stuck under the rubble. Spidey then wakes up, sees no one, and thinks they abandoned him and leaves.

When the Ultimates get it Cap wants to look for Peter and is worried about him, everyone else is nore concerned with Gregory Stark causing an international incident in Korea and Fury sends them there.

He becomes so depresed he takes the blame (none of the other Ultimates did aside from Fury but none of them except Cap took responsibility with May who eventually forgives him anyway) and he goes off to the desert and lives of snakes and wild aninals.

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>>91242051
Ult Cap watches too mucj daytime tv, repeats shit, so he propably got the France thing from there.

That said Ellis sibtly criticized Millar for the France thing by having Ult Cap talk good aboit other countried and Russian soldiers and their contribution in stopping Hitler.

>>91242420
>If a union is responsible for this why hasn't there been a war between other western nations that aren't in a union?

Open a goddamn history book, and learn how wrong you are.

>>91242258
Except Muslim "for'ners" are the leading perpetrators of crime in Europe presently. They make up, at most 10% of France's population, yet 70% of their prisoners are Muslim.

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>>91242258
Sorry, hadn't finished your post, didn't realize you named the jew. Kek mit uns.

>>91242622
>There is no fixing the EU, it's going down the same ruinous path that all empires go down
You sure know all about that, eh comrade Russianon?

>>91239982
I don't think Bloodstone Manor is located in the UK, tho.