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>>91222891
Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a l,short list of sites that any new webcomic artist/writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/ (surprisingly not a typo)

>Links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV
>Contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>DISCORD CHAT going on,
Ask for an invite in the thread.

>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xPvvPTQaMI [Embed]

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

>Comics for makin' comics!
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9pf1nwwa92lbp/Comics_for_making_Comics

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+draw+comics

>>91222969
first time making one of these threads btw. feel free to tell me if I fucked something up.

>>91222999
You didn't set the title.

>>91222891
This is How's Your Webcomic? #357

There was a thread of sorts made yesterday, but I don't think it counts due to April Fools shenanigans.

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I'm back and i honest need to stop changing my ideas over and over again. So instead of change my comic I'm just gonna add whatever I can to this new one.
No more redoing, every character I've made so far for a comic will be implemented into this one as background or mains.

Even the little goblin fella, now with a bit more leniency with the design. since this one i gonna be more toon like with the character art.

Hey, /HWWC/, I've got a question. I was thinking of making a comic about high stakes video game competitions. Would it be gimmicky/corny if I had the videogames drawn in sprites while the "real" stuff was drawn regularly?

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Been working on a new method for backgrounds and environments using colored outlines and textures with a photobash base for reference. Here's one I'm working on. Obviously a lot of it is still in photobash portion but the segments that are done such as the floor, monitors, stools, trashcan, sign, desk, etc I think are looking pretty good.

>>91223858
I'm surprised this is the first time I've ever seen a character with paw prints on the bottoms of their shoes. Neat. As for a critique I think if you're trying to emulate fleischer era cartoons you may want to try and get rid of as many unnecessary lines as possible (stripes on the belt and soles, fly on pants, etc) and exaggerate their line of motion a little more.

>>91224283
I don't see how there'd be anything wrong with that. As long as they aren't really shitty ones I think it would be fine. You may want to set yourself on a specific console as reference and put some research into what kind of color/complexity restrictions they had for authenticity.

>>91224591
I suppose i can get rid of the unnecessary stripes, This design is almost exactly like i did when i drew him on the sketchbook.

I love the design for the arcade and the color design stays true to the theme of the comic.

I like the touch with the vending machines in back, you could have a guy basically be the bar tender while people just pay him for the stuff in the machines.

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>>91224976
Thanks! And you're right actually. The machines behind the counter are going to be broken, they're basically just make shift refrigerators and storage containers that dispense things if you hit them hard enough (which is the bar tenders job). I'm thinking half of them wont even have food items just random tech accessories and tools.

Merva here is the owner. This is a super old drawing though, I really need to make a final model of her.

A school student with a paragon complex and psychic powers attempts to mind-crush selfish individuals into being lawful drones. The student council orders his transfer to a class of problematic students, along with two teens who were previously 'redeemed' and retained their free will - they must now pretend to be his friends while subverting his ideological rampage.

invite for discord please? I am a lurker

What do guys think of this idea for a comic?

Its set 200 years after a worldwide nuclear war. Prior to the bomb strike most people were able to survive in connected underground shelters, while very few people survived on the surface. As i said 200 years pass with the humans underground staying as humans while the humans above ground are mutants who adapt to the radioactive environment so much that they feed off radiation and would die if exposed to clean air.

30 years ago the humans have come out of their shelters with a device that could purify the air, which could mean death for the mutants. With that humans outnumber mutants 15 to 1. A war is about start

>>91224283
I don't see what's the issue, sounds pretty cool to me. Video games should look like video games, are you going to do your own pixel art or just rip it?

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>>91222891
http://boysland.thewebcomic.com/archive/#ch_97998

New chapter is out my friends! Still don't know what to do about the update ordeal one anon was talking about.

If I can find a way so you can read at the beginning of the new chapter update instead of the end of it, that'd be great.

Hope you all enjoy

What's the secret to proper paneling and text box placement?

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>>91226921

>>91227289

What the hell is #1 trying to say? They both look exactly the same and have the exact same text.

>>91228386
the letter i and the lines above and under it

>>91228386
Don't use wide "I"s within words, only if the letter is on it's own. It doesn't read as easily I guess?

>>91228443
>>91228464

I guess that makes sense, but I also just now noticed that every single letter in that thing is capitalized.

I don't read comics often, but I guess everything is supposed to be capitalized?

>>91223858
Personally, I'd say don't compromise. If you're not fully on board with your own idea, you'll just get bored half way.
Also, loving the baseball bat meme one.

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>Still no Artborn update
Hino, what are you doing?!

>>91223858
cute as hell!
wait are we not in the other thread anymore? should I let it die?

>>91226877
I was wondering about that guy.

>>91228546
it's comic tradition but it's hardly necessary
back in the day when you had to actually use a fucking printing device, that helped, i think

So how do I start a comic?
I don't mean the process but how do I introduce the reader into my story without it being awkward?`
Do I use an establishing shot and show the names for everyone or do I just start in the middle of the action and let the characters drop each others names naturally?

>>91231003
didnt you ask this two threads ago?

>>91231003
well in any case, it depends. I think people tolerate a simple establishing-shot-and-name intro for something fast-paced and energetic like a superhero comic.. on the other hand if it's a mundane slice of life thing with a lot of verisimilitude, it's best to introduce them naturally.. which is tough because .. I mean I dunno about some people, but I never use names, and neither do my friends.

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Well I decided to make a webcomic myself and I want it to be about a girl and her lizard thing who go on wacky adventures through magical lands and space.
I know these designs are pretty generic but I had fun coming up with something.

>>91233439
i fucking love it. great concept. are there magical lands IN space as well?
they're the opposite of generic. I was thinking they're kind of a strange mix of highly detailed and weirdly simplified and proportioned. I love each individual aspect of them, but the whole is... unbalanced?
I'd workshop them a little more, you're clearly a fantastic artist so I bet you aren't worried this is the only good thing you can produce the excuse I give whenever people want me to try a few alternate versions of things, because it's true.

>>91233513
Well, first of all thanks for the kind words and yeah when I say magical lands and space I'm kinda thinking Dragonball, Super Mario Galaxy and Space Dandy if that makes any kind of sense.
As for the designs I agree that they seem somewhat off and I'm not sure about the style in which I want to draw either.
I'm new to this wole webcomic thing so I already feel like fucking up.

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>>91233737
that makes EVERY kind of sense. I also had Kirby on the brain, and maybe Magical Adventures in Space (god i miss that comic)
My thinking is... the dinosaur is roughly right, but it's so odd he doesn't have even stub arms, considering he's so anatomical. and maybe he can have some pupils..
whereas Yana-chan just needs a slightly (slightly!) smaller head, a neck, and some scaled-up legs, and she'll be about perfect. here i'll show you what I was thinking

/co/ please knock some fucking sense into me.

I'm halfway through my graduate degree in a non-art field but all I can think about is getting it over with so I can work on my webcomic. I've been refining the story for years and it's finally becoming what I want it to be, it's on my mind constantly and I just want to make it come to life. But it's gotten to the point that I can't focus on my actual fucking thesis and my grades are starting to suffer.

Tell me it's not worth it /co/. Tell me no one will read it and I'll be an unknown mediocre artist forever. The logical part of my mind knows I can take a break before PhD to work on it but the delusional attention-seeking part just wants to drop out right now and start drafting.

Also, general advice on how to balance work and passion projects, I guess.

>>91234261
it's worth it, you just need to learn how to balance your hobby better. The part that needs to be suffering is your social life, not your grades. What are you doing after you've gotten all your homework and studying done? If the answer isn't drawing, then you don't deserve to pick up the pen. if you're getting a doctorate, you've already given up on any chance of being happy in life outside of your job or people who surround you because of your prestige. And that's good, I wish I'd done it.

>>91234261
You know everything we are going to say already. You can't make a living on your webcomic. You have to really build a fanbase for years before you are able to do that.

Then again, how much do you really need this degree of yours? It's unrelated to comic work, but if you are only piling debt on a worthless degree, it really is better to leave and start working with anything else (that makes you money, of course, not your comic). Work on your comic on your free time, try to gain popularity with your artwork and only then start working on comic pages, see how many of your fans are interested.

Post art, btw.

>>91234741
as I understand it, the degree he has NOW is worthless, it's only the phd that's gonna make the previous degree worthwhile, as a stepping-stone.

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>>91233986
I like the armless pupil-less dinosaur. I think omitting pupils from animal characters instantly makes them cuter.

>>91234261
why would you come to a community of webcomic creators to tell you that making a webcomic is a bad idea?

Also uhhh, update on this. Now I just need to do the posters, blue arcade machines and things for the monitors and then I'll start doing foreground stuff.

>>91234261
Start your comic now and keep studying for your degree. Chances are, your comic won't make enough money to support you, but it will probably provide you plenty satisfaction by just doing it.
Set aside an hour or so every night to just work on your comic, and only work for that time, and dedicate another couple hours just to studying and work.
Just out of curiosity, what are you getting a degree in?

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>>91234261

I'm doing the same thing, only I'm just cutting out some social stuff and VIDEO GAMES in favor of my eventual project.

I didn't even pick an art field, I just chose Language and CS. Highly unrelated to drawing or writing.

My opinion is that you really don't need a degree in something if you can display proficiency in the subject anyway. Just finish your degree (if you feel it will actually benefit you) and do the comic when you have spare time. If you have significant spare time and don't use it for your project, I'm not sure what to say.

Also, continuing from yesterday before the /cock/ happened.

>>91223858
God i know what you mean by switching ideas, it seems like i come up with the basis for a new story everyday and non of them really stick out to me as better than the others so i can never decide. On the flip side, ive finally nailed down a general idea for the setting i want to base my comics in, i just need to work on fleshing out the details. Or i could just scrap it and start all over, its yet to be seen which one ill pick.

>>91235166
>My opinion is that you really don't need a degree in something if you can display proficiency in the subject
this is rapidly becoming true. sadly when I went to college the 'people only respect a degree' mentality was still in full effect. at least I went in knowing full well I was just buying a job ticket, and I got a job. the part I didn't realize is that that job would destroy my life and I'm straight-up incapable of working fulltime. should have just sponged off my parents a bit while I worked on my career, but I was so obsessed with making sure I had cable and internet paid for.

Is this just a slow day for this general? I haven't visited this site in a long time.

>>91235575
I hate wageslavery, it makes me wanna kill myself sometimes.

>>91236125
it's a slow day on /co/ in general. weird stuff happened yesterday.
anyway wageslavery is the only way of life for slaves, it's just that we aren't those.

Is it better to use Disquis or the default Wordpress comment system for managing comments on your comic's website?

>>91236220
they're both pretty bad, at least disqus's biggest crimes are that it takes forever to load and requires you to sign up
wordpress is glitchy as hell, right now all of wordpress errors when I comment. different error on each site. I think I'm on their spam list.. but none of them work well.

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Mine is chugging along so far. Got a new page coming up tomorrow starring this bitch and one more character.

>>91236640
Huh. The pretty blue eyes and human teeth make it a little more 'land before time' than the badass warrior I think you were going for

>>91237096
Wow, I suck at sandwiching.
What I meant to include there is how well-drawn, posed, and shaded she is. Also, gotta dig the cigar.

>>91237138
Thanks, Broseph Stalin. And to be perfectly honest, you're not supposed to take her (or any of the cast) all that seriously. In fact, the whole comic is a piss-take on various "Strong Female Character (TM)" tropes.

I hate coming here cause most of the art is real cool and I hope it goes somewhere.

>>91237246
oh that's perfect then. may I suggest eyelashes
that also explains the t-shirt.

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Just gonna drop an update here, I changed the colors a and backgrounds a bit.

>>91240049
lookin nice. I could learn a lot from you about deceptively simple foliage.

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Feel like sharing a WIP here because yay dialogue and personality. So weird how much mileage I got out of this friend-insert character compared to most of the others. he's just male Ryouko, but I think that just made me work harder to establish him as a big deal and a serious threat, even as other villains were utter jokes, and then those tried to work for him. I just keep coming back to him time after time. also never once changed or updated his appearance.

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I made this. Have a couple comics with it. Pls b nice.

Afternoon in Euroland Bump.

Keep going; don't give up.

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http://abnor.com.br/?lang=en

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Breakdowns

>>91236220
The author of Paranatural disabled comments on his site because he was using Disqus and people were exploiting a bug to comment on pages that didn't exist yet.

In my experience Wordpress comments are way faster than Disqus but they are also harder to moderate, at least once you start getting a ton of comments. With Disqus you can do things like banning people from commenting on your site which isn't possible in Wordpress comments.

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Workin on another practice comic!

>>91245490
Lookin' cool, I like that character design. You got more to show?

>>91226877
The relatively consistent lack of backgrounds pulls me out of it.

>>91244027
as always, a masterpiece
'lay it off' isn't really a phrase though, maybe you mean 'lay off it' ?

oh god, end of the fourth row is heartbreaking.
and then the very last panel.. now i'm in tears for a different reason

>>91244313
>comment on pages that didn't exist yet.
spooky. what, so as soon as he uploaded, there'd be comments?

>>91226877
appreciate the direct link!
Oh god, python fight
I think maybe you could use a few extra commas here and there. stuff like "put these fellers behind bars boys" just comes off a little odd, and "We lost Leo" is straight up misleading.
you also had one instance of "you're brother" on page 10
i love the mom inspiration. this comic is great

>>91248486

Thanks for reading!

Would "We lost, Leo." Read better?

>>91245983

I understand that. Backgrounds take a long time to draw when you're aiming for 20 pages a month. Maybe we should add more in though. Thanks for your feedback.

>>91245983

theres bgs on 7-8 pages of the current release tho?

and the previous one has a bg in almost every page

>>91249619
yep that's it. When you end a sentence with the person you're speaking to, you want to put a comma before it
(technically if you BEGIN a sentence with the person you're speaking to (or any kind of intro adverb), you're supposed to put a comma after it, but honestly I intentionally break that rule if it ruins the flow

>>91249902

Makes sense, I'll update them in a bit.

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Taking a break from backgrounds to make the finalized model for Merva like I talked about doing here. My goal for her is to look like one of those alien ravers from samurai jack.
>>91225456

>>91251239
definite samurai jack raver feel. good job

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>>91245564
Not anything new

>>91252781
niiice cave.

You know what's surprisingly a rather large pain in the ass?

Character relationships.

You'd think that once you're done defining each of your individual protagonists, the way they bounce off each other would come naturally, but no, not really. Say you have five protags, as I do. Now you have to think about how each one specifically interact with each of their comrades. Even without the numbers, the various ins and outs of how two different people interact is full of complex intricacies that require a writer to pull from every aspect of the characters, to their surface traits, to hidden aspects, to philosophical beliefs... And these people are all childhood friends who are so tight that it sort of starts to become a source of conflict.

I know this is sounding like "writing is haaaaaard!", but damn. Every time I try to flesh this aspect out, I hit a road block.

>>91253724
I hear you, man. I can do 'bounce off of' pretty well, but getting more complicated is hard. Sometimes you have to rig up contrived situations to get them alone together..
and on top of that you have to keep track of who knows what about whom, because that changes everything.. and neither extreme is easy to write. strangers can't relate enough, and close friends have no reason to express things the other knows full well

>>91253724

Make a character web? Or shorten up each character's relationships with bullet points; maybe just focus on a few aspects that stand out instead of trying to create a massive amount of subtext that 99% of the readers won't get anyway.

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>tfw too intelligent to be an artist so I have to hire one

>>91254465
But are you intelligent enough to get them to work for "exposure"

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just finished this page's pencils after jumping back on completing this comic.

>>91254465
>when too artist to be an intelligent so I have to hire one

>>91253724
If you weren't a virgin you wouldn't have this problem. Just sayin'.

>>91253724
i cant even think about character interactions yet.
im really autistic and barely handle real relationships

>>91248376
Thanks man, we will change "lay it off" to "get real" by the way. Sounds good?

>>91253859
>Make a character web?
what are we xenoblade now? actually that's a good idea. I've made bullet points for personalities in the past, but never with regards to each other.

>>91254613
That's only true the other way around. you can fake your way to sex, you can't fake your way to understanding social shit.
>>91254801
ah yeah that's perfect

>>91256487
Or to put it another way, you can social your way to sex, you can't sex your way to social.

May I get a discord invite please?

Boner

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a preview of things to come for WAY OF THE GUN (formally middle lands lol last time I change it!) two new characters will enter the battle field. I want to give a shout out to beck, much appreciated man!

>>91253724
Are you kidding? I start with character relationships, and flesh them out from the original source conflict. That way I never deal with finding their interactions - they were born from them.

>>91259122
but what if the lion's share of your characters are just normal people like you'd meet every day, who just.. when they're together in any situation, just kind of be quiet and try not to rock the boat?

>>91259298
Conflict doesn't necessarily mean over-the-top dramatics. A group of normal friends is full of conflict. Who likes who? Who's known each other longer? Who hangs out with each other more? There's always friction, even if it's fairly subtle. That's where I start.

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Working on a character for an upcoming story, trying out some colors! Any suggestions? Any stand out?

>>91259122
I use the same method, I develop the characters's personal lives first and then figure out their exact role in the plot.

>>91259298
Then you might need to diversify your cast some more. If all of your character's reactions to being in a social situation is to keep to themselves and not cause conflict they're probably a bit too similar.
Do you have characters who are friendly and go out of their way to introduce themselves to people? Do you have characters who are contrarian and grumpily disagree with whatever idea the rest of the group came up with? Do you have characters who like to ramble on about the Youtube videos they watched last night?
All of these sentences could describe people I know irl. Your characters don't have to be wacky and zany to be differentiated.

>>91253724

My problem is the opposite, usually how characters interact is easy for me. Defining my characters as individuals though, yeah not so much. I can write a base personality, but I find it hard to express the character unless they're interacting with others. So I use character interaction to define my cast as individuals.

>>91259419
times like that I have to try NOT to just write who i know.

>>91259443

I honestly like all of them, but bottom left and top left look the same.

Coincidentally, that's my favorite color of the set.

>>91222891

i made a thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iwddHTHcXU

>>91259443
damn you people with your 'which color should I pick'
how do I decide? they all rock!
.. somewhat. I don't think the dark purple spines on greenguy or redguy work very well. and blue guy should have the yellow tummy if he's gonna have the yellow tail tuft, for sure.
top right guy is my least favorite maybe. he's kinda... discharge-brown with pine spines? that's not the best color. But given what I know about Urchin, maybe that's the PERFECT color. What's he gonna be doin'?

>>91259642
oh yeah, definitely!
but once they've done those few things, they're kinda.. done.
I'm a bad writer.
>>91260170
different tummy

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>>91260170
Top left and bottom left have different colored bellies. I like it too! Bottom left and bottom right stand out the most to me, but a friend pointed out bottom left is exactly the same colors as Feraligatr fro Pokemon, so.

>>91260234
I'm brainstorming for Petunia's kingdom. She's gonna be a sort of pixie pop star princess, so he holds her kingdom up in the air to keep the riff raff out. Basically a giant monster bouncer/bodyguard.

>>91259443
i like bottom left most

>>91260433
ah, popstar bodyuard for a diva pixie..
definitely the red one. but I still suggest changing the spines to magenta or pine or yellow
second choice: green guy

>>91260433
Bottom left is a pretty good color scheme, I don't think anyone will mind that it has the same colors as Feraligatr since red/pale yellow/blue is a pretty common color scheme. Sonic the Hedgehog uses it too.

>>91260550
Yeah nobody would make a waninoko connection. totally different shade of blue for one thing. as is sonic.. who has cream-colored bits, not yellow.

I'm in the process of making a comic but I can't really go into much details without spoiling much of the plot.

My main question/problem I have is that whenever I make something whether it be a character's design or relationship it always seems to be taken by someone else.

For example (and I do have to generalize it); one of my characters is a hybrid of immortal (kinda common in the story) shapeshifting race and a human. Her mother is hella powerful and is considered a weapon by practically everyone in this society and is hated and considered a monster by the government. (This race protects and lives in a symbiotic relationship with humans right down to being part of human family units and the two races have done this for billions of years). Her dad, a mercenary, is loudmouthed and proud human with a heart of gold but is kinda clueless.

Yeah…you can guess what this sounds like to my eternal torment. (I didn't watch the show before and during the time I made this)

I don't know. It just always bothers me that no matter what I do it just seems that, in regards to story, someone's gotten there first.

Yeah I know it's rich asking for help with coincidences and creativity on /co/ but does anyone have any suggestions that aren't 'don't whine faggot'?

I'm finally done with that 13 minute animation, now I can come back to my home, /hyw/.

>>91261172
everything's been done. I don't recognize what this is similar to

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I've written my next scene to include some expository about the setting and what's going on with Commisan and Mahder's relationship. Also we'll get to learn more about Animator and Bandara.

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To whoever draws space ships and vehicles alot this is my first time drawing one this intricate spaceship designs.

I feel it kinda sucks and more should be added, but i know this is just a sketch or the structure or what the ship looks like...

>Also hows the title for the story?

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This is the last picture for this scene. I didn't want to complicate the background. I think it looks nicer to end it like this.

Next panel sets will have Bandara and more scenery.

>>91261404
she's damn adorable.

>>91261410
it's awesome, but you've gone a little too heavy on the panel lines and too light on the greebles. Think about the construction of that big notched fin at the top, can you really imagine someone building that deliberate, specific shape out of all of those haphazard pieces? or that main bowl for that matter. it's such a nice smooth regular shape, making sure all those different-sized pieces all fit together into that regular shape would be an engineering nightmare.
try to imagine what different parts put together might look like, the ways it might interrupt the shape. If there's a regular part, think about how it would be created, and out of what shapes the manufacturer would make.

that's an okay title. considering there was a show called virtual reality troopers, it could do with some workshoppan

>>91262150
Your right i could get rid of the dorsal fin, the ship was designed to have a similar shape to manta rays.
but i was thinking of have an engine up there that could potentially allow the ship to maneuver like a (Portly) manta ray.
The ships not meant to fight it's basically a giant cargo tanker for A.R.T.

But i may try a different design because i wanna make this ship memorable in the story like the Enterprise.

I may have an idea for a few design, but this is the initial idea.

>again coming from an artist that has never touched vehicles and machinery.

>>91262434
by no means, the fin is awesome. but it shouldn't have such a smooth silhouette and then be covered with lines, yknow?
it's okay, i've done millions of robots but very few spaceships. i think the basic shape you picked is not only cool, but pretty unique. Just... pick up some model robots and look at how their parts look.. and then some ships from cool giant robot anime, and some from star wars, and maaybe star trek but not much because their ships never looked very good

>>91262728
Guess I will, might as well since I'm probably doing a genre I find very hard to draw.

>>91262841
and also try to do, with art, what model builders did with real models... kitbashing. draw some cool bits and glue them on.

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>>91222891
http://romanpenscomics.blogspot.com/

any critique on mine?

>>91262962
I'm loving this. It reminds me of When I Grow Up.
you get a proper site with a proper way for me to start at the beginning and read it through, and you've got yourself a bookmark, honey.

>>91263035
thanks :)

I'm so glad I'm loosely sketching the entire comic beforehand. It's so terrible. I can't wait to finish drafting this POS so I can start editing the shit out of it.

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>>91240572
progress.. finished with outlining?
okay, need some pacing help here, guys.
does this need 3 more panels where Kaen tries to use his jetpack but Robin collides with him, and then Ryou mocks them further? I feel like maybe this ending is fine, but nerdy people like me might be like "hey you forgot Kaen has a jetpack" and a chain reaction of failures is always funnier than just a few.

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Has anyone ever toyed with the thought of using a business card site to make cards with your comic's artwork/title/URL and stuff?
Thinking it could be a cool way to share my comic with nerdy folks I meet that show interest, handing them out at cons and shit.

>>91266345
hmm i dunno, it's not for me. i don't really dig business cards in the first place, and I have little contact with people offline as it is.. I feel like if someone wanted a link to my site, I'd give it to them online.. if they aren't currently at a computer, they probably aren't in the mood to look up a site.

>>91267388
You never meet anyone or talk about comics away from home or a computer?

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seems about time for a "not sure how close the thread is to dying" bump
might as well post some sketches of a character from my current attempt at a comic

>>91266345
99% of people you hand a business card to at a con will just throw it away and never visit your site. You also will look autistic handing out business cards of your shitty webcomic.

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>>91254492
Are you printing that? If so not sure if those crop marks are correct.

>>91262962
>posting a webcomic to blogspot
Someone who cares so little will also surely make a terrible comic, so I'm not gonna bother even clicking your link you bush league fuck.

>>91253724
You want to know a good show that will show you what excellent dialog is between chharacters check out the new voltron on Netflix, the interactions between the team are so well done and real imo.

>>91267730
Fuck no. What are you, gay?

>>91266345
If you're going to have business cards, then make them proper ones with your full contact details on, and save them for networking contacts, like fellow cartoonists, editors, etc.

As >>91269489 says, while people at conventions will happily take your card, the vast majority will just be thrown away afterwards, so cheaper to produce flyers with your website on would be a better bet. I remember a fellow cartoonist saying he handed out his business cards at his table during one show. When he took a break and went to the toilet, he saw some of his cards just lying on the floor.

>>91267730
>leaving the house
>ever

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These threads actually encouraged me to make a concept page, I like it but I still have an astronomical amount of things to learn. At least this was good a good learning experience.

>>91262962
Kinda disappointed you took none of the advice you got last year regarding your comic

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>Female lead has a pink/blue striped shirt
>If I make my comic known tumblr will think she's trans
>Her color scheme is actually inspired by black licorice candy

Just finished writing chapter 20 of West Tree!

It's going to be 39 pages long.

>>91267730
actually recently I do meet up with people to draw, but that's on paper. a link to my comic would be something they had to do later, like.. homework. obligation. plus what if they don't like it?

>>91273156
makes me think of that gross licorice candy. or maybe cotton candy
don't let fictional things bother you like that

>>91274334
I don't like the candy either but it's got nice colors.

>>91274443
it needs those colors
to trick people into eating it

>>91276928

ded thread already?

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>>91222891

getting better at drawing my original sci-fi western web comic girl traditionally, more new stuff here: http://jesse-the-art-maker.deviantart.com/

>>91279170
Ded thread always.

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>>91236640
Here's the page that launched yesterday that starts a new scene. Next page comes out Monday.

>>91279170
i think that april fools " " " " gag " " " " disrupted the entire site

>>91280148
ohhh it's you. Yeah this lizard fits the aesthetic of those beast girls nicely. I love the expressions here as she just gets fed up

Discord. Where is the discord link?

>>91237246
Sounds pretty boring desu.

>>91281355
Perhaps, but the aim is to avoid that.

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Speech bubbles are hard.

>>91282796
true. but you did a fine job. I'd just smooth out that lump to the right of the pointy part.
also i like this guy and his face and his hair and hands and his brown, brown jacket.
so who was door?

I'm 70 boards into the first draft for my comic. It sucks. When I finish, I will be revising and changing so much.

>>91283188
that sounds like a lot of work

>>91283565
You get out exactly what you put in. I have no deadlines to worry about, no one's seen it. I can spend as much time as I'd like to get this right.

>>91284003
Good work ethic, but try not to get LOST IN THE SAUCE as they say. I know some people who have been "revising" their story for literal years and not started their work at all.

>>91284003
if you got out exactly what you put in, almost nothing would exist.. because it would all just even out, and then not bother. you've gotta try to swing the pendulum, so your side gets a good solid swing and so does the other guy. then you sleep while it's swinging the other way.
we're all in this because we smelled profit. the sweet delicious profit of having more fun than the effort you put in, because we have a certain aptitude

>>91284131
Ah, nah. That's why I'm finishing the first draft. I want it completely done before revising it. If I stopped and revised every portion I didn't like before moving forward into the story, I would never finish.

Plus, I'm not the artist. I don't have to worry about burning myself out in writing, I can put all of it into the writing and work together with someone else. It helps.

>>91284298
>Plus, I'm not the artist.
well that changes a lot

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>>91251239
finished.

>>91284377
Yeah. I will be writing the comic script, however, so it'll have the panels and everything all written out. But first, getting the story to actually flow and be engaging is my goal. No amount of panel arranging can make a shit story somehow good.

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It's a comic!

See more of them at SaffronComic.com!

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This is a comic I made about a year ago. I had this thing that I would make a full page color comic every year through high school and show around to people. Since I knew I was going to show to people I went out of my way to make it more palatable than my usual comics

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>>91285635
page 2/3

>>91285635
>>91285668
charming art and coloring style ya got there

>>91285543
Where's this going?
The colors look beautiful man. THey really instill this atmosphere. I get the feel is will be a character driven adventure comedy.

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>>91285725
Why thank you I tried my best to make it appealing. Alos this was produced around december-january. So I tried to use soft light colors to capture the feel of the season.

>>91285635
>>91285668

Cute muppet.

>>91285821
I'd say you succeeded on that front, I dont usually hang around these threads too often, whats your webcomic if you dont mind me asking

>>91285543
huh, the way she addresses the wound is interesting, but starting that dialogue with "stop being a baby" is confusing. is the wound fussing at her? anyone reading it would assume the wee fox is fussing at her, though it clearly lacks the energy to do so. I had a doctor refer to an infection as "angry" once, but I'm not seeing how this hole is being a baby.. if anything it's, perhaps, "being a prima donna" by bleeding more than it ought, because of the bad influence of the arrow. just my two cents.

milk is a great name for a nymph. and I love her light pink blushing. saffron is great

>>91285635
one page a year? damn.
this is lovely, but the light blue text is too light to read

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Here's a WIP of the next page!
The girls try to inspire Jack while he freaks out!

>>91286062
dyaww. sister hugs.

>>91286062
At first I thought it was a silent comic. But this is actually well solid for a WIP. I assume you're going to color it later on.

>>91286021
Yeah, in hindsight i should have darkened the color but I didn't want to affect the color composition too much, also I wanted to visually signify that the snowman is just an imaginary voice she's making.

>>91285885
Oh, the one I'm working on currently doesn't really have a real name yet. This was just a oneshot. I have another even older comic with her. But it's older(ie crappier.)

>>91286522
oh I didn't pick up on that. I would have gone with a more pale version of the same navy blue, instead of bright cyan. closer to the color used for shading the snow (but it'd still have to be darker to be visible)

or just give the word areas tails, and make sure they both go towards her

>>91286614
Yeah that's something I should've done. Never occurred to me back then. Probably because I just wanted to be over and done with Lettering.

>>91285743

>>Where's this going?

To the land down under
Where women glow, and men plunder

>>I get the feel is will be a character driven adventure comedy.

That's the plan!

>>91285985

>>is the wound fussing at her?

This is setting up for some ~*worldbuilding*~ down the line, but the basic gist is that all magic is persuasion, so Liri's healing the arrow wound by shaming the fox's body into not being all bleedy and stuff.

Similarly, you create magical weapons by taking normal weapons and giving them a big ego. That kind of thing.

>>91287081
ohhhh okay, cool. I get it. In that case yeah she has to call it something shameful..

i hope this comic goes on long enough for this worldbuilding to pay off. Not pointing any fingers or anything, I just feel like legend of the hare was building so much up only to end abruptly before we'd even seen all 12 races

>>91285543
>nice girl like you
>nice girl
>girl

Uhh, typo

>>91287621
oh give him a break, she's looking way more feminine in this page

>>91287679
What? Just pointing it out in case he missed it

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Finished this page!

>>91287325

>>I just feel like legend of the hare was building so much up only to end abruptly before we'd even seen all 12 races

I'm saying saying that Legend of the Hare book 2 is happening, only that I'm soon going to move to a much cheaper apartment, which will solve the money problems that made book one end.

I'm also very close to finishing something cool and neat to move a little closer to that, hopefully you'll see it next week.

Of course, if you really want more LotH you could Support me on patreon

But something might happen even if you don't

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Well, I updated. Halfway done! I have a feeling this comic will die in the bowels of obscurity, but passion's passion.

https://tapastic.com/episode/653452

>>91287762
very funny. we've given him enough shit lately. the idea here is to help, not drive him away.

>>91288035
yeah i hear that, dude. funding has killed lots of stuff i like.

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>look up reference for Ryou's glowy sword
>that can't be right, can it?
>w-what about last time he showed up?
>oh. he actually saw them in their current outfits.. so this mockery.. it's just for show. that's... actually funnier?
>sure, I can salvage that

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>wants to make webcomic
>has animu artstyle
>wants to make /co/ and /a/ like story
>it was more on /a/

how do I mix west archetype with japan's

So whats a good way to motivate yourself to do more work on comics, writing and character design? I have so many ideas but I lose interest in them quickly cause they are kind of generic I guess. I was working with some other people on stories. But after a while I felt I was adding in stuff to make them happy and I didn't like what I was writing anymore and want to do my own thing now. I heard its easier if you love drawing and art, and while I do like drawing a lot and its fun designing characters and writing for them. I can't really say for sure I love doing this.

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Is this where we shill?

spacetimehyperjump.tumblr.com

Would appreciate any advice or tips.

Damn I wish I could work in the morning. I'll fall back asleep if I try, though. I fall back asleep if I don't try, too.

>>91294165

idk exactly what you mean by this, but this guy is kinda doin that i think:

>>91226877

maybe scan over it a bit?

ya gotta be careful when tryna match those two styles cuz often times it comes off cringey. like 2animu4u kinda stuff.

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Question? If people had cholorplast like cells or whatever to make their own energy would they still fight over land?

>>91295850
Not for food.
For living space and/or material resources perhaps.

>>91295993

Ah ok thanks

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>>91295846

well this is my artstyle, on the paper.


shit scan i know and i've always had scaling and anatomy problem. I tried experimenting with stuff most of the time to improve.

the picture is not actually from the comic that i planned

>>91296587
I'm getting a Tsugumomo vibe, have you read it?
What kind of pens do you use?

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>>91297105
Uni pin pen,
And no i havent read it.

>>91295414
Is the illusion girl a robot or something? It's kinda not clear if the finger segmentation in the second panel's just construction lines or real.
Also don't a whole lot of people get off to rape fantasies and close to nobody gets off to actual rape?

Any thoughts on comics that update multiple pages once a week? I'm thinking of trying this with my comic. I feel like it makes for more satisfying updates and makes it easier to write scenes with page turn reveals, spreads where not much plot happens and other things that don't really work as well in a page a day?

Only example I can think of doing this well is TJ and Amal so if anyone has better examples or sees problems with this I don't 'd like some more opinions.

>>91294165
I'm not sure how picky /co/ is about things being animu. We like original teen titans,voltron, samurai jack and avatar just fine relatively speaking.

I'd personally just suggest avoiding overdoing anime story tropes and avoiding chibi faces. Basically do something interesting and don't just be an autistic middle schooler

>>91294165
Embrace the animu, my man, it feels better that way. Maybe avoid the big anime cliches, like speeches during fight sequences and sweatdrops and so forth, things that non-anime fans usually dislike about anime.

Just wondering, what does your art style look like right now?

>>91299362
BACK does this and its made by kc green and the guy who does nedroid, two pages every wednesday. works alright as far as im concerned.

>>91299362
If you want to do that it's fine, but be aware that it is historically bad for pageviews/readership. It's typically better, if you want to increase viewership, to simply update multiple times with just one page and pace your divisions (chapters, issues, whatever) according to your output instead of your story beats. As long as you aren't languishing on angst for 20 pages, readers don't mind that they have to wait a few days for the suspense to return or the action to Peter off. If anything it encourages community and discussion.

>>91286240
kill yourself coldfusion

>>91242309
I like it

>>91299558
Pretty sure this is him >>91296587

Personally I don't think you have much to worry about. It might just be my personal taste but this doesn't really scream weebshit to me.

I'm curious, what kind of story are you telling?

>>91298265
Nah it was just supposed to be fancy hands and my choppy tones make it look like some kind of segmented arachnid claw. I'll rush things less for the next few pages.

Finished this page!

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>>91300619
Whoops, forgot image.

>>91295850
If people were solar-powered they'd fight over sky

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Was just wondering what you guys think of these designs.

Bumpish

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I'm kind of breaking the 180 rule here and I'm wondering if I should go through all the trouble of fixing it while maintaining page to page flow. The easiest way to follow the 180 rule in this page would be to just flip the first panel, but I've had Ramparts walking to the right for the last few pages and I don't want to make that abrupt switch in movement. The alternative solution is to flip panels 2-6 on the page, but then Ramparts and the new character wouldn't be facing each other on panels 3/4 and 5/6. So yeah, does anyone know a solution to this predicament or should I just forget about the 180 rule for once? :/

>>91302600
Are they supposed to be castaways/apocalypse survivors/something to that nature? Their ragged clothes give me that impression.
At first I was going to say you could vary their outfits more, but after a second look they seem to be wearing the same kind of uniform? Still, I think you could differentiate the damage on the clothing a bit more.
I like the contrast between the two character's expressions/body language. The dude is kind of cute but I'm not sure what's going on with his hair.

>>91303156
That looks fine to me actually; at most the camera moves 90 degrees between panel 1 and 2, and we can clearly see where the characters are standing in relation to each other. Tier 2 still has the characters in the same relative positions as panel 2, so it isn't really that jarring. To me, it's as if the camera pans 180 degrees across the first four panels, rather than making a sudden flip between panels.
If it still bothers you, maybe have panel 1 slightly more front on?

>>91303156
don't be afraid of bending things like the 180 rule a bit if it's necessary. The most important thing, and the reason the 180 rule exists in the first place, is to ensure that the viewer isn't confused about the place of characters in a space. Also since it's really only the first panel that breaks the rules it works as a sort of transition. As long as the rest of the panels follow the rule like they do you should be good.

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>>91303290

His hair Is supposed to be in a knot like this or if not that then think of sokkas/haus hairstyle

The girls outfit is supposed to be a leather jacket while the guys is a hoodie, they are apocalypse survivors

I should make their outfits better suited for winter since their in the great lake area

>>91296587
Cute. I dig it.
>>91298265
I think that's the point.. doesn't sound like she's calling him weird, just pointing out how odd it is to only like something when it's fake. but that's normal, and one assumes the next page he explains that.

>>91299362
Plenty of good comics do this, ideally all put on one page so you can scroll down. The Sisters does it quite well. Of course you don't get every single week updates usually because that would be a tremendous number of comics

>>91303290
>>91303463
>>91303486
my thoughts exactly
>>91303664
if it's supposed to be a topknot, then the issue is that his knot is not.. it's spread out over his entire head, in a way a knot would not be. Sometimes it helps to draw the bald cranium first, then add the hair. makes sure you aren't drawing it too low accidentally or leaving out forehead space.
>winter
yeah unless the 'pocalypse killed all the animals and ruined their pelts, these guys should have animal pelts on.. even just tied to their limbs, if they're unable to stitch together coats

>>91303156
You set up the physical relationship of the characters in panel 2, which is fine, but my concern is where whats-her-name is looking in panels 3 and 5.

In panel 2, she naturally turns to her left to look at the characters in the doorway, but in panels 3 and 5, she seems to be glancing towards the camera which is on her right.

My impression is that the two newcomers are still standing by the door during this conversation, which means she isn't looking at them while they're talking.

What are your intentions for this scene?
Would it be better if she turned to face them, or if you showed them walking up to her desk?

So I'm starting a webcomic.
I've been having crazy anxiety about sleeping for about 5 years now because I'm god damn terrified of sleep paralysis. I wish I could just beat the shit out of my fears.
Thus, my idea for this webcomic starts to grow.
Heres the basics:

The greatest priest in California, Aargus Renson, has passed away, leaving his son, Atlas, to take on the duty of "best priest". Atlas believed his fathers view on the world was just, and that he had a mindset of justice, though he didn't agree with his practices.
Atlas plans to literally live like the romans, and box the demons, spirits, ghosts, ghouls, goblins and other evil entities out of existence like the roman priests did hundreds of years ago.
Atlas, now known as the towns "Ghost Boxer" accompanied by his occultist friend Rachel "Dollie" Rojas, and others (brain storming other characters now) enter the supernatural ring in over the top, paranormal boxing matches, with Atlas' main goal to box "El Jefe De Los Muertos", or commonly known as "Death", to rid the world of the idea of evil itself.

So, basically supernatural boxing ghost hunter, with a splash of comedy.

Going to start character rough drafts soon.

Input or questions greatly appreciated!

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>>91303463
>>91303486
Thanks for the advice, I really wasn't sure if the transition would be too jarring for readers or not.

>>91303941
Yeah, I only caught that after I posted it. She's supposed to be facing them from her desk while the two are standing by the entrance, I tried just changing her eye's direction to mitigate the issue.

>>91303998
Sounds cool, I like the concept of just beating up supernatural forces with one's fists. My one question is that I thought priests were celibate, is Atlas adopted or was her born before he dad became a priest or something? Or is the father not a Christian priest?

>>91304187
Born before he became a priest

>>91303998
That sounds great. I love when people write their therapy
I dig the catholic mysticism aspect, that stuff is really neat. I'd research some of the jewish stuff too just to provide some context. what they built on, what they made up entirely.
just own the sleep paralysis, man. it's hard, but you can just be like "oh well this is what's going on. it's not real, i'll just enjoy getting some more sleep. need it anyway" also maybe try medications, melatonin might make you sleep right through it

>>91304047
keeping people looking in the right direction is so hard. I notice perspective issues all the time that are revealed by the fact that a person has to look up or down to see someone who's in the foreground or background, with their eyes actually moving on their face, to look right.. but in real life they aren't actually vertically different..

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>>91304904
lovin this, strawmalade.

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>>91305038
>strawmalade
this is getting out of hand.

>>91304904
unf yeah girl that's my fetish

>>91305082
a back-mounted scythe whirlwindmill? what is this, samurai troopers?

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>>91305543
she wanted to use a staff weapon, but is psychic and has no reason to use it, she levitates and spins it to use it as a side weapon.

I need to work on making moving objects look like they're moving

>>91305636
that's completely cool. also nice flying shot there. Gotta work on those hands though still.
yeah I like levitating weapons, I like when they're alive or just enchanted or whatever too.

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>>91305704
>I like when they're alive or enchanted
boy, do I have good news for you.

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>>91286587
ah aighty then, best of luck to ya anon!

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http://cthor-comic.tumblr.com/
Page 7 went up today. Almost finished with page 12. Feels good having so much done in advance.

>>91306866
i like these interactions

can I have a invite to the discord server?

>>91308994
Whoever you are, know that you're probably either my soulmate, greatest enemy, or long-lost twin.

>>91309021
and I want you to know I appreciate you trying to keep the thread alive. don't want it to be just me

>>91296587

Yeah I don;t think you're gonna have problems with that style.

>>91309021
>>91309078
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5xl_5DPDn4

I'm just curious, what has been you guys' most successful method of self promotion? What sites bring you the most traffic?

>>91309995
this, by far

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Do I give my Villain a god complex?

>>91310793
Why the hell not? Those are usually fun to read

>>91310793
if he has a good reason

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So I'm going to start designing these character with differentiations in minor parts of the design for example Comfort here.

I plan on finding what shape mask and facial design might work best. Along with the notion whether or not to give him clothing this soon or show it later (after things happen).

>>91315165
this looks like the kind of guy there's more than one of. is that not the case? because that'd sure solve your decision problem.
i say anything but the circle. other than that i love this guy.

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I want to get at least half the chapter inked before I start posting my comic.

How long does it take each of you to finish pages?

>>91316584
couple days.. few hours each day

>>91317749
yeah man yeah, bricks!

Could I get a discord invite?

If anyone is alive right now.

>>91318920
wait for alarm to go off?

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http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/its-about-a-duck/0-exposition/viewer?title_no=69778&episode_no=1
When looking at other peoples comics, there is always the same font used everywhere. Why is it so popular to use the same font, am I being an outcast by using my own? Should I change?

>>91318978
Some things, like birth control, need to be taken exactly a certain time after the last dose.

>>91319627
i thought you just took one a day

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>>91299458

I'll try to avoid it as much as I can.

>>91299558
here. this one is related to the story I am making

>>91303696
>>91309929
Thanks!

>>91299998
>that one digit away till a get
Anyway, the story took place in a parahuman society, neutralbright theme, so there are plenty of criminal vs heroes action. the MC just moved to his uncle's shop in a city to help him with his business by delivering packages to their customer but gets into trouble along the way. featuring fantasy races, multiple hero and criminal organisation and vigilante.

>>91316584
Oh damn, that looks good. What's it about?

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>>91282870
This was door.


I feel like I really got the movements down between panels 1-6, but i'm still iffy on the door guys look

>>91321221
Door guy is pretty creepy looking, but that was probably intended.
And what's up with the different colored frames? It's a bit distracting.

>>91321268
Just a different layout i'm experimenting with, I thought it looked aesthetic, you think if I made them all one unified color it would work better? or dropped it all completely?

>>91321650
Not that anon, but it is a bit distracting.
What's I'd suggest is replacing that blurry shadow in the background with either a sharp edged one or a nice screentone and I'd definitely make it the same in every panel.
I'm liking this tho.

>>91310793
Give him a complex where he's mentally ill and his fucked up brain is making him think there's something wrong with his body and that he's meant to be a girl so starts fucking his body up with hormones and goes into wild mood swings and in general acts like a retarded child.

>>91323069
Seconding this

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Working on tomorrow's page

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>>91324564

>>91282796
do you have a blog?

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Finished this page!

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>>91295414
Another page

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i want to have 10 pages ready before i start uploading to my comic site

but i finally got more free time so i'll start uploading drawings and animation practice on my main tumblr every 2 or 3 days

at my job i have to animate a bit of stuff for a water cleaner company

a part of the script i got suddenly said

>the archea should raise his hand and tell the kids watching the video to not pee on the pool

pic related is what i came up with, it was kinda fun to animate so i guess i'll also put it on my tumblr

>>91321221
the wreath is a nice touch
>>91321650
I wasn't going to say anything, but the colored outlines are weird because they A) match in column when the story isn't going by column (is it?), and B) have more range of color than the entire rest of the comic, by far.
as for the door guy, the lack of nose is really odd. given how his fingers and cheeks and chin are gnarled, shouldn't he have a gnarled nose?

>>91326228
Huh. those styles do not match. but I love the offbeat way you shade, everything looks really funky

>>91326720
your job is hilarious and fantastic. though is there really any harm in peeing in the pool?
make sure you don't do any comic work while at work, they could claim ownership to that shit

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>>91324671

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>>91327017

>>91327017
>>91328062
I'm really digging this guy's design I've always loved monstrous mouths on otherwise human-looking characters

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Resized this time around.Test page on how I want the final product to look like. Debating on whether I should keep the gradients or just use screen tones.

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>>91328208
Here's his big initial face reveal panel from the end of chapter two.

We actually released the line art of this page for a Patreon competition, and a friend did a really cool animated depth map (Gfycat.com then /PresentSophisticatedIndochinahogdeer).

>>91328415
That's pretty cool (and a little spooky). What's your comic called? Is it up anywhere?

>>91328492
Vigor Mortis - it's spread over a few sites now, but the homepage (which is due a facelift) is here: http://vigormortis.co.uk/

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>>91328412
I'd read a comic just because of lips like that.
Where do you post it?

>>91328668
Thanks for the link! I'll give it a read.

>>91329210
No problem - let us know what you think!

>>91329053
Honestly, I haven't even started :\ I just recently found the way I like doing these (sketchbook then digital editing). But Soon(ish)!

As for the lips, idk, I always liked seductress characters (and I've been told I have dsl a few times)

>>91329574
So it was traditional drawn. Looking at the signature and chandelier it gave that vibe, but then I noticed the hair shine and though: No way, has to be digital.
What do dsl modems have to do with this?

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Brainstorming concepts for organic spaceships. If anyone else has any ideas or concepts I should explore further I'd be interested in hearing them.

>>91329880
Iunno man I feel like it's all the other characters that looked really pretty and nice, not the lipstick one

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>>91329880
Original sketch. I fixed lines,proportions, and added details, as well as brightened up highlights that didn't show up well.

Dsl=Dick sucking lips

>>91329947
I would say give them some kind of rigid structure at some point, because space is a 'cuum and all that. Not necessarily an exoskeleton, but at least evidence of an endoskeleton, and not being all-squish (squishy bodies by contrast are good for high-pressure, hence deep-sea stuff)
the skin should also be white or metallic, because space is hella full of radiation
as far as the ones here, I like them, especially the crystal one, the shuttlecock, the crystal-eyed yellow submarine, and mr grin. the fins-and-tentacles one on the bottom right would be pretty perfect but I feel like the tentacles would retract during space flight and only protrude for landing or in an atmosphere. Helmet-guy on the top left is also cool but looks like it's kinda missing something.
I also like the idea of a ship that can only fly so far before it has to sort of 'surface' on a planet for air.

How many characters is too many characters? More specifically too many for a single crew of MCs. Where is the sweet spot? I don't mean background characters but let's say I had a single group with a mission how many is too many to handle

>>91330222
>space is a 'cuum
what did he mean by this?

>>91331144
Vacuum, I assume.

>>91331129
here's how I see it:
one person's alone. introspective. audience surrogate
two is a pair of buddies but they'll get sick of each other unless they realllly work together. because they have nobody to buffer against
three is a good group in theory, but the problem is two will outvote one all the time. You can do three alright with frequent guests. it's also the best to draw, but unfortunately..
four is definitely the sweet spot. you have the perfect distribution, votes are unlikely to be 3 on 1, they can arrange themselves in good ways, they can let's-split-up-gang either in 2s or 1s. they can fit together in a car or on two horses.
five works just about as well, but you're getting to the point where your team is conspicuously a TEAM and not 'just some people' or a 'crew'. at this point you have to start thinking about strategy and it's also getting really hard to draw them all in one place
six or more is just a crowd. I wish I was able to keep my crew numbers smaller, because it's just ridiculous at that point.. I miss having four. nine sucked, but dammit it was nine, and it had to be nine.

>>91331293
Thanks I was almost going to have 7. Any advice on cutting people out/slimming it down? Who do I decide to drop

>>91331293
When you have larger groups, such as six, and you need that number, a good recommendation is to split them off into pairs of four, or three, or two, for the story. Or, some personalities overpower others, meaning even if there are six, one or two stay quiet or act minimally when in the larger group. Or, depending on the situation, depends who's an active participant.

>>91331578
i pared nine down to seven by getting rid of the ones who didnt contribute and weren't interesting. too bad since they were also the easiest to draw.

when TV or movies adapt books, they often combine two characters into one, so they serve both roles.. and it works out pretty well most of the time. makes the character more complex and interesting

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Jello and Pup is updating at a regular pace finally - every Thursday!
Just updated now.
http://www.freakanimes.com/sugarandmemories/
(The page was too big so here's a crop)

>>91331752
oh good! I was wondering what became of ya

Is it okay if you do text-only in the Discord chat? I want to give my ID and get added, but only if that's a thing first.

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>>91280140

been messing around with blue pencils with erasers on them, check it out

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>>91321268
>>91326753
>>91322236

Thanks for the feedback guys, i've taken most of what you guys said into consideration and edited the best I could. Sorry for spamming the same panels/page over and over I just really wanna have it down before I move on

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I am less than a page away from finishing my first 22 page upload. I have 15 pages of my buffer done. I gotta set up a website for the comic and a POD for the first book. I now have 7.5 k followers on social media.
So, it's going okay I guess.

>>91329251
Well, I love it. Just binged it (I've never been good at pacing myself when I enjoy something), and I am really excited for the next page.

The art is great, the page layouts are all really nice, the writing is good, and I love the characters. I'm going to see if I can get my sister into it, too, since it seems like something she'd enjoy.

>>91336703
lovin it

>>91334538
Level tool is your friend. Can't see shit.

>>91337457
A) we don't respond to bones, even when his art is pretty good like this. especially then.
B) it's a blue pencil sketch, you're not supposed to be able to see it easily.

>>91337501
A)why not?
B)not THAT hard to see.

>>91337567
have you ever had a question answered and wished you hadn't asked, because by even bringing it up you made it worse? It's one of those situations. take my word for it and leave the nagging question, or think i'm making it up and let us all suffer the consequences
and yes that hard to see, that way scanners ignore it after you put down your inks

>>91337567
Bones is an idiot and/or troll, and nothing an be gained from interacting from him. He only wants replies, so if you ignore him hopefully he'll fuck off. He ignores criticism/advice, and does not improve.He occasionally shit talks other aspiring artists here who are actually tying to accomplish something with their work. For your own good, as well as this thread's, do not engage Bones.

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>>91337501
>>91337612
>>91337722

>>91337722
the fact that half of this is lies shouldn't dissuade you from listening to the overall message. he's been caught false-flagging strawmen multiple times. also ban-evading.

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>>91334538

sized way down for linksys, black and whited, brightness and contrasted, and curved in paint.net

>>91338010
>the fact that half of this is lies
Which parts?

>when you find a 6 year old typo that ruins one of the funnier parts of a comic
fuck me sideways

>>91338267
again, irrelevant. the more we talk about it, the worse it gets. The point is, if anything about your personal experience, or some kind of argument or screencap conflicts with it, it's important not to disregard the entire message.

>>91337612
>scanners ignore it

you can just get rid of it in photoshop easily

>not inking digitally

>>91337722
fair enough.

>>91331293
>tfw 10 main characters

It's an ensemble thing though and only focuses on a couple characters at a time. Hopefully readers will be patient with it.

>>91339931
yeah but blue pencils are famously made for that from before there was photoshop, see.

>>91340120
If you can do an ensemble cast well, you've got it made.

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>>91336879
Thank you so much, anon!

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>>91328062

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>>91342766

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Building a fanbase is so fucking hard.

>>91343500
What have you tried so far?

>>91343500
Befriend famous people and get them to promote you.

>>91343531
PW advertising, though not much. I've thought about spending more money on advertising but every time I ask about it here people tell me it's useless and to befriend famous people like >>91343599 said.

I can never tell if the answers I get here are legit or just bitter, cynical nerds who want others to give up the same hope they gave up.

I also do a lot of posting on social media but it never really brings in new readers. The only real purpose it serves now is providing updates and stuff to some of the fans I already have.

I've read that article/post by the Miss Melee author and they seem to think posting to reddit is really helpful, but I don't know anything about that site or community so I've been leery about trying it.