The DC Fan Expo Dallas Special Event has apparently started,

>>91218377
Wait wtf, why on Facebook? Do I need to dust up my old account? Should stream it on Twitch or YT.

>>91218377
I thought that was supposed to be yesterday.

I don't have a fb account. If they said anything interesting, share them with us.

>>91218377
having to wait fucking sucks

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Apparently Tom King has a panel where he's gonna reveal details about his upcoming arc "The War of Jokes and Riddles"

https://twitter.com/TomKingTK/status/848542746713497601

>>91218991
is this really going to be an arc ? solicit made it look like it was going to be a one shoot

>>91219015
Yeap, that is the plan, there's even a trade planned named "The War of Jokes and Riddles"

>>91218991
Fuck you King

>>91218612
they did that for rebirth
I remember making screencaps for you guys
only for leddo to steal them without credit

>>91219015
Yes, and it's supposed to be 8 freaking parts.

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>>91219197
>8 freaking parts
goddammit king i defend your run when i can but this shit needs to end

>>91218377
1PM CDT is 11 AM PST, OP. Hasn't started yet.

>>91219363
>>91218377
You dun goofed, OP

1 hour, boys.

Super excited

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>>91218377
Will /ourguy/ return?

>>91219481
No, Batman will get to have the Nth Metal for the whole event and Hawkman will be brought back with JSA before being ignored for another few years like always.

>>91219481
would be weird if they did a event around thanagarian tech and he never showed up

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DARK DAYS: THE FORGE #1
Written by SCOTT SNYDER and JAMES TYNION IV • Art by JIM LEE, ANDY KUBERT, JOHN ROMITA JR. and others
Cover by JIM LEE and SCOTT WILLIAMS • Variant cover by ANDY KUBERT • Variant cover by JOHN ROMITA JR.
Retailers: This issue will ship with three covers. Please see the order form for details. Includes a code for a free digital download of this issue.
DARKNESS COMES TO THE DC UNIVERSE WITH THE MYSTERY OF THE FORGE! Aquaman, The Flash and more of DC’s pantheon of heroes suspect Batman of hiding a dark secret that could threaten the very existence of the multiverse! It’s an epic that will span generations—but how does it connect to the origins of one of DC’s most legendary heroes?
The great comics event of summer 2017 is about to begin courtesy of superstar writers Scott Snyder and James Tynion IV and illustrated by a master class of comics artists: Andy Kubert, Jim Lee and John Romita Jr.! You do not want to miss this one!
ONE-SHOT • On sale JUNE 14 • 40 pg, FC, card-stock covers, $4.99 US • RATED T

>>91219481
>>91219842
Some months ago I remember when Scott Snyder was asked on Twitter which other DC character he would like to write, he said Wonder Woman, Hawkman and Slam Bradley.

>>91219955
Sorry, it was Starman. But he mentioned Slam Bradley in another occasion

Here's the tweet:

https://twitter.com/Ssnyder1835/status/782359908134125568

>>91219842
>>91219547
Was there any other bit of "leaks" about the thangarian stuff besides that guy who was posting "the button" leaks then got asked about Dark Days?

>>91220112
Was fake though. It said Thawne was gonna die in The Button, yet he's the villain of the next Flash arc after it.

>>91220247
nah, he said Zoom was going to die, Eobard was going to be alive

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/02/02/more-on-the-scott-snyder-greg-capullo-batman-event-for-the-summer-metal/

>Well, we have been tipped off that it concerns the concept of Nth metal.

>In the DC Universe, Nth metal is native to Thanagar, home planet of the Hawkmen, and allows its residents to negate gravity and fly, while also protecting them from temperature, the elements, increasing their healing factor and granting extra strength.

>Which, I have to say, may be rather tempting to Batman. A belt made of Nth metal? And entire suit? What about Batarangs?

>But someone else has their eye on the properties of this metal and is trying to gather it up.

>>91220283
>A belt made of Nth metal? And entire suit? What about Batarangs?
i am starting to think that the anon from the button was right

>>91220414
Same here. The stuff he said was at least a lot more plausible than the other leaker, if he is right about this announcement it'll confirm everything else he said was legit.

>>91220468
what did the other leaker said again ?

>>91220488
I don' have a link, but it was obvious bs

>>91220488
Something about Harper and Duke being the only two batfamily members left to fight a warlord Batman or something.

BleedingCool could just be posting the 4chan leaks right now

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>>91220623

>>91218377
>facebook
DROPPED!

>>91220607
Tbh, what Rich said was from a few months ago and honestly, the fact that he talked about how bats wanted a new suit, batarangs and all that shit kind of matches what the button guy said

>>91220665
You can tell this is fake because Tynion said he doesn't plan on having Harper be a main character anytim soon.

>>91219197
>>91219243
Are you faggots for real? King can't into compressed story. Give him all the space he needs. At least then Kingfags won't have an excuse of why it's shit.

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>>91220623
>Outsiders
>Tim leading fucking doomsday
this could be a funny book but if he really though someone would believe him past that he is crazy

Anyone have screencaps of the Button/Dark Days "leaks"?

>>91219955
He has some sort of pitch/idea for WW planned out if we go by some snippets of Superman Bound.

>>91220796
>>>91045601

>>91220623
>>91220665
This is clearly fake. It's like that person who made the early Rebirth fanfiction thread about the Red Dawn event and Prime being the extra Clark Kent. Maybe they are a retailer and saw an issue or two earlier, but most of it is implausible at face value and/or has already been debunked by creator comments.

I don't know why you guys ever give stuff like this credit.

Can we just get King to do elseworld trades and have someone more contemporary on Batman? I like his work but its just so jarring as the 'main' batman.

>>91220283
We're going to see Batman flying and shit very soon in all the books? Hell yeah.

>>91219197
>>91219243
>>91219955
What's wrong with eight part stories? Their going to be finish within four months. You fans are spoil.

>>91220861
if not well done this will just feel like a fucking slog to read, and i much as i like King, his batman man is average as all possible hell

>>91220861
Decompression is terrible

And let's get real
Nobody knows how to do big stories beyond taking a premise and stretching it out

>>91220811
Thanks, I call bullshit on the abortion story

>>91220623
>>91220665
Isn't this the leak that said they're going to cripple Barbara again? Yeah sure looks plausible.

>>91220812
Because /co/ is the dumbest board on 4chan.

>>91220889
>>91220899
King's best stories (the suffering trilogy) have all been stretched out shit. It possibly couldn't get worse than his current output.

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>>91220908
Also Ivy might rejoin the BoP team

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FIVE MINUTES BOYS, POST YOUR WAR FACES

>>91220987
Throwing a bone to the Ivyfags probably isn't a bad idea, though I like seeing them suffer too

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Will Nth Metal deliver?

It's fucking happening now.

>>91220987
She was one of the more enjoyable parts of New 52 BoP (other than Starling RIP) so I'm ok with this

>>91221100
of course not

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjaHVcecPEE

be cool

>FAVORITE CHARACTERS FROM BEFORE
ITS HAPPENING

>>91221184
ty

>>91221184
THANK YOU ANON

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Dark Days: The Casting

Hal and Bruce together again!

He mentioned the source wall

What happened so far

>>91221285
nothing really

>huge ramifications on dc universe
meh

though I guess they do have to push it all to the 2nd year of rebirth

>>91221285
>Big summer event is actually a 3 part event.
>Old characters are coming back
>Apparently its tying from lots of clues dropped during Snyders run on Batman
>Involves the source wall

>Didio is a Kongs fan

disgusting

Didio's laugh is such a joy.

CBR just posted the full reveal

>>91220276
Still fake bullshit though.

>yfn kiss Snyder

>>91221350
The cover or something else? I don't see it on their site.

>>91221350
>>91221371
http://www.cbr.com/dark-nights-metal-scott-snyder-greg-capullo-dc-batman/

>>91218377
Remember that one time Snyder already wrote a story that involved revealing dark secrets seeded througout human history - The Wake? Yeah, that sure turned to trash by the end.

>>91221388
thanks

>>91221229
YES! I miss seeing them together.

>It’s not just about Batman
>show only Batman shit
Fuck these guys

>New Characters and New Concepts by Scott Snyder
>Scott Snyder Science

why.jpg

>>91221405
It was fucking awesome right until the end - both the present and future parts. And then the ending... I don't think I've ever been so disappointed by an ending in any medium.
Is Snyder at the point of his career where editors don't dare tell him if he wrote something stupid?
(Later I've lent a copy of The Wake to a friend, and told him that he shouldn't read the ending because it's shit, but of course, he was too curious. He said that he would have felt better about the story, if he didn't read the ending.)

Still not much information. Is there another convention before the September solicits that they might be saving shit for?

>>91220665
they are not killing Kyle
please don't kill Kyle

>>91220899
Priest's opening arc to Deathstroke was eight issues (I think) and it sure as hell worked.
>>91220970
It could get much worse. King's stuff has been weak relative to him, but it's nowhere near as bad as, say, Hitch's JL.

>>91221405
>Yeah, that sure turned to trash by the end.
Anon, that's every Snyder story.

>>91221486
Don't forget Doyle edited The Wake. I don't think he's able to keep Snyder on point anymore

>>91221574
>Priest's opening arc to Deathstroke was eight issues (I think) and it sure as hell worked.
That's because it's not very decompressed.

The dude is great with handling 3-4 storylines at one time and folding them into one another.

"face melting o'plenty" - G.C.

>>91218377
are they starting a metal band

>>91221657
basically yeah

Goddamn these two are dicksucking each other too fucking much.

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>>91221664
what will be the name of their first album

>>91221667
They're into comics and each other.

>>91221574
Just curious, how exactly is Hitch's JL bad? .

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>>91221667
>He doesn't dicksuck his best friend

Hahahaha

>>91220861
King seems more comfortable with longer arcs.

>>91221667
Seems like each other is all they're allowed to talk about. A lot of "can't spoil it yet" stuff.

>>91221711
bland & inoffensive

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Feels good seeing Capullo's Batman again.

>>91221737
but that's not bad, that's bland & inoffensive.

>>91221672
They still haven't said anything interesting yet? I stopped watching the stream because it was really boring.

>>91221756
Pretty sure there's no announcements in this beyond the Casting and Dark Nights.

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>>91221717
>he has friends

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>>91221777
I don't ;_;

>>91221737
better than Johns' JL

>>91221741
Yeah, it's like a return to form.
I like finch and janin, but capullo has that "purity" to his illustrations.

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>>91221388
>the story will “examine every choice a hero doesn’t take and every path they don’t walk, and open up worlds that are forged by nightmares.”

now those visions from the last Nightwing issue make more sense
friendly reminder that Seeley teased that Nightwing may tie in to Metal

>>91220607
>Something about Harper and Duke being the only two batfamily members left to fight a warlord Batman or something.
I desperately hope this is real so batfamilyfags will cry.

>>91221741
I'm kinda over it, desu, five years really burnt me out on his art.

>>91221824
I wish it was just Seeley doing multiverse shit instead of tying into Snyder's probable mess.

>>91221856
duke isn't even mentioned dumbass

>>91221817
>>91221856
>it's a damifag episode
Remember to report the samefagging.

>>91221811
there were high & low points of Johns' run but Hitch has been mediocre from the start

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>>91221824
All the bat are going to tie in, anon.

>>91221911
Hitch has also been genuinely bad if we include JLA

>>91221711
offensively bland.

>>91221388
>the story will “examine every choice a hero doesn’t take and every path they don’t walk, and open up worlds that are forged by nightmares.”
I guess it somehow ties into Batman #49 with all the alternate universe Batmans. Because that part of the story made no sense in relation to Superheavy.

>>91220665
I really want JLA Batman to be MM.

>>91221907
>>91221908
>Liking Duke
Fuck off back to >>>/co/mblr

>>91221935
racistfag pls

>Summer event
>August release
I mean, I know it's still technically summer, but my mind always assumes June/July, when kids aren't in school.
Not that comics are for kids anymore anyway I guess

>>91222026
I don't have a opinion on him either way, but I'm just saying he's not even mentioned.

>>91220970
>>91220899
how is this bad

>>91222052
Why are timfags so defensive always?

>>91222037
Eight monthly issues

>>91222037
July/August is summer in plenty of school districts, though.

>>91222065
I'm not gonna pay 4 dollars for nothing to happen

>>91222065
>spending money for a story that doesn't progress well with each installment

Trade waiting does help it somewhat, but it's still a lot of nothing pages.

>>91222030
UMMM... you realize that you are not racist but you are a homophobe???

>>91222134
King created GG. There aren't any actual fans of Duke and GG yet because they are underdeveloped characters. Some of us just aren't autistic and are waiting to see where there stories go before boycotting anything they show up in.

>>91222134
Probably not killed off but thrown into limbo and used sparingly, like Luke Fox

>>91222134
Duke is the Robin type character so I don't see him going anywhere.

Implications from Rebirth, the Button that goes through all this?

>A: Snyder: There’s definitely ways that they cross but we’re not going to take pieces from that. He’s given us pieces to play with but it’s meant to exist as a conversation with that story. The mystery set up in Rebirth, however, is his story to tell.

Seeing as that the DC is a community, I have a single issue: when Damian Wayne passes away. How did you react to that, being fathers, being sons. The silent one.

>Snyder: It’s hard for me to write Damien, because my son is so close to his age. Super Sons is incredible. Nobody writes it better than Pete and Pat. Incredibly moving.

I wanted to know how many issues it’s going to run / monthly:

>6 issues, monthly.

Is there any character you haven’t worked with that you’ve been wanting to

>Snyder: Duke. Hal I’ve never written Aquaman. Cyborg has a big plot. I haven’t gotten to write them ever and now I have the chance.

>Capullo: I want to draw Lobo still. I would draw a badass Lobo.

>>91222239
>Capullo Aquaman

I'm wet

>>91222292
>A: Snyder: There’s definitely ways that they cross but we’re not going to take pieces from that. He’s given us pieces to play with but it’s meant to exist as a conversation with that story. The mystery set up in Rebirth, however, is his story to tell.

Does he know he can just say no?

>Scott Snyder

DROPPED

Rebirth was doing so well, too. Shame they gotta go grimdark again.

How will Marvel even recover?

>>91221911
Johns first was bad the entire time
Hitch is at least doing something interesting

So what issue will retcon bruce into being the Egyptian Carter Hall?

>>91222334
>Rebirth was doing so well, too
Nope

>>91222372
Marvel really needs to restructure their editorial like DC did. They won't get good output regardless of ideas if they don't clean their shit up.

>>91222334
Nu52 was never grim dark. Plus he stated it isn't grim.

>>91222387
Separate anon here, I thought it was doing pretty well. I enjoyed Superman thoroughly, at least, and its not as bad a Nu52 in my opinion.

He'll make Duke Batman. Screencap this.

>>91222334
It's not going to be grimdark, did you care to read anything Snyder has been saying from months beyond just looking at the pretty pictures?

>>91220019
Man I'd rather they leave Jack Knight alone.

>>91222327
Maybe there will be hints in Metal about the ongoing Rebirth plot, but that's not his story to tell. It's easy, man.

>>91222387
Well, for me. No more rote dystopian crossovers, actual focus on each hero's immediate 'family.' Snyder has his little sandbox, doesnt need to muddy up a bright new beginning.

>>91222334
>Rebirth was doing so well
Kek, it went downhill months ago.

>>91222418
no reading is hard & I like the scary pictures

>>91222413
Nah thats something marvel does.

Duke becomes nightwing and dick becomes red robin.

>>91221908
Duke is a literal waste of space. He can only detract from a story.

>>91222439
Jack knight sucks so bad he cant sell tpbs.

Eat it.

>>91222413
He'll make Duke Lark.

>>91222291
Even so who's to say that he can't be developed by a writer into something new an interesting? Every character has potential they just need the right writer to unlock it.

>>91222334
>Rebirth was doing so well, too
It's mediocre as fuck, anon.

>>91222387
Really? Why?

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>>91222489
THERE IS ALREADY A LARK RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>91222483
What astonishingly shit taste you have there

>>91222483
Fine so long as they don't fuck up trying to bring him back because some writer liked Robinson's Starman.

The shit ended perfectly and should be left alone. It's like some dude going "I'd sure like to write Sandman volume 2" or some crap.

>>91222570
Nobody cares about your obscure shit waifu.

>>91222572
>>91222577


Nah cry some more. Besides the character is creator owned.

Duke > Damian
Harper> Dick

>>91222552
Mediocre as fuck, nostalgia pandering, lack of creativity, recycled plots. Stagnation. Weak pool of artists and writers.

>>91222601
Who hurt you, anon?

I used to be a big Marvel fan but Marvel has fallen so far from comic books. (Dan DiDio: “Why did we turn off the livestream?” Jim Lee is snapchatting this, making him re-say it for the DC Comics snapchat account.)

My biggest question is: why are the DC Movies so bad compared to the Marvel ones.

>Lee: We have two done, and a lot more in the works. The filmmakers in charge have heard the feedback from the fans. They are putting a lot of time and care into it.

>We should talk again after Wonder Woman comes out.

>DiDio: Movies and TV are competition for the comics. The way I see it, if you’re going to the movies to get the stories for these characters, we’re not doing our job.

>Snyder: None of us are rooting for Marvel to fail. I’ll be the first one to pick up Secret Empire.

>We each want the other company to be strong.

I’ve always been an X-Men guy. The only reason I bought a DC comic was because of Jim Lee’s run on Suicide Squad (Capullo: You might even say … an artist moved the needle!) But how much will I need to go back and read in Batman to understand the new event.

>Snyder: You won’t need to read anything. You can pick it up and go.

>DiDio: But go read Batman: Hush, if you love Jim Lee! It’s incredible.

How does the DC Earth still have a population after all these

>Capullo: Lots and lots of unprotected sex. Next question!

What is the next thing you’re working on, Jim?

>Lee: (mentions Dark Days but then:) Probably in April you’ll hear about my next project.

You guys really brought me back into comics with Rebirth. What are your favorite Rebirth stories.

>Snyder: Josh on Flash. Superman is killer. Wonder Woman is killer. It is a really incredible time to be a DC fan. And Deathstroke!

>Lee: I love Wonder Woman. If you read the series, they alternate back and forth. I read them separately, sequentially and I loved how they make you feel for Cheetah and explain the origins of this character! They did a fine job of weaving it together.

>>91222665
>DiDio: I love what James is doing on Detective. Pete and Pat have done a great job righting the ship of Superman. And introducing the son of Superman, who I think is here to stay.

Batman has one of the most bruised psyches in comics. Have you studied up on psychology.

>Snyder: No, he’s always in that gray area. I just spend a lot of time in his head. The fact that I’m writing him seven years after Black Mirror … speaks to the versatility of the character.

Will the repercussions of Dark Days and Metal be seen in other comics?

>Snyder: The whole thing is that the end of Metal will create over-arching story beats that are exciting to the people writing the books. That’s the whole point. We’re creating a story that will propel us forward.

>>91222629
So just like any other year in capeshit. Have you been doing this for past 3 years anon?

>>91222665
Is the Flash actually good?

>>91222699
It's alright

>>91222292
>Capullo: I want to draw Lobo still. I would draw a badass Lobo.
I just want an actual Lobo title. That's all that's keeping me on JLA and Orlando really nails the character even though the rest of the book hasn't been astounding.

>>91222292
>Snyder Cyborg
Not sure if I want

Wonder if this will tie into that "cataclsymic event" that Semper's said coming up in Cyborg

>>91222665
>How does the DC Earth still have a population after all these
>>Capullo: Lots and lots of unprotected sex. Next question!
Kek I love Capullo's.

Batman is carter hall.

>>91222698
There were more fringe titles that were interesting, unique, daring and fresh. With Rebirth it's almsot all mediocre.

>>91222665
>How does the DC Earth still have a population after all these
>Capullo: Lots and lots of unprotected sex. Next question!
lmao

>What is the next thing you’re working on, Jim?
>Lee: (mentions Dark Days but then:) Probably in April you’ll hear about my next project.
If this isn't ASBAR then what's the point

>>91222222

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>>91220812
one day it will be Prime Time again

one day

>>91222698
It used to be a few great titles, a few good and the rest mediocre to shit. With Rebirth, it's straight up consistently mediocre.

>>91222750
There's always stuff like that, even with Rebirth. New Super-Man is the best book on the shelves. Besides you get your mini series. If you want something more hipster-y try YA, Hannah Barbara, 100,000 weird crossovers DC's doing.

>>91222699
Better than Manabooch, except the art of course.

>>91222848
So you're telling there isn't even a single great title in Rebirth lineup? Is that what you're saying my nigga?

>>91222857
Yeah Young Animal and Hanna Barbera are good. Rebirth itself is not due to the mediocrity. New Super Man and Deathstroke are probably the only truly really good titles.

>>91222817
Duke is gonna marry Gotham girl in tom King's run so I am pretty sure Duke is older than Damian

>>91222906
Deathstroke is good, but that's it. The rest are mediocre. Even new Superman is.

>>91222857
I read the first three issues of New Superman and it was mediocre and... generic. Just regular superhero stuff... but now in China.
>Besides you get your mini series
All have been terrible so far except Midnighter and Apollo
>YA, Hannah Barbera
Not Rebirth. Also, in constant danger of cancellation and small lineups of 3-4 titles.
>crossovers
pleb bait

>>91221229
Jim Lee is still a premier comic book artist in the year of our lord, 2017. Father forgive us

>>91222906
Well, there's Deathstroke. But other than that, yes. And they're forcing it into a crossvoer so.. yeah, fuck Rebirth. Also, it has crap art.

>>91222817
>Is he still on this? How old is his son and it's been years his son just doesn't age.
Twitter tells me that Snyder's son was 9 in 2016, which makes Scott's concerns about writing a 10-year-old Damian back in 2011, when his son would have been just a 4-year-old and Damian was still treated as a 10-year-old, really odd.

Adding on to the weirdness is that Damian's 13 now, which is still not close in age to Scott's son.

>>91222978
>All have been mediocre except Midnighter and Apollo
Midnighter and Appolo was shit. I don't know why anyone even likes shit that Orlando writes.
Supergirl being super, Sixpack and Dogwelder and Captain Atom are the actual good minis.

>>91223012
how is 4 years not close in age?

>>91223089
Orlando is indeed shit but Midnighter and Apollo was good. Captain Atom is not good.

>>91221327
>>Old characters are coming back
JSA and/or Legion? Hawkman is JSA and Legion rings contain Nth metal...

>>91222976
>>91223007
>New Super-Man is mediocre
I honestly fucking hope you fall from second floor dick first into hard concrete and then your neighbor's violent pet dog comes and eats your fucking throat but you don't die. I want you to live with the mental trauma.

>>91223007
Not being forced. priest is literally the one who wanted to do the crossover and roped other writers into it

>>91223137
You okay, mate?

>>91223123
How many issues did you read of Captain Atom?
Midnighter and Appolo was just a gay man punching people, with no plot. I even found Midnighter to be a big pile of shit.

>>91223137
>everybody's goota like everything i like or else >:(

>>91223093
His son was 4 in 2011. Damian was 10 in 2011.
That's not close at all

Damianfags freaking out over Duke is the best thing ever desu

>>91223202
>if I keep calling good things shit I'll get my contrarion cred up on Taiwanese loli porn posting site xD

>>91223255
Damian is worse than Dick, Jason, and Tim at their height so it's nice that Damianfags know what the other Robinfags felt.

>>91222439
Jack isnt the only Starman, could be a new character or one of the others.

>>91221229
I just realized the black dude on this cover was Duke

>>91222665
>moviefags

They need to be banned from these events.

>>91221229
The Joker is back baby

>>91223275
Whole bat family needs to get gassed desu. Take it back to 60s I say but still keep Shots Sons.

>>91223137
But none of my neighbors have a dog.

>>91223361
>can't deny Damianfags need to suffer

Thanks for agreeing with me

So are they only doing a Dark Days panel and a The war of Jokers and Riddles panel or will there be something else?

>>91223411
>no Damian
Instantly picked the fuck up.

>>91219197

That's only 4 months these days. It's not like Snyders Court of Owls that took a year

>>91223412
Fuck off pedophile. Damian and Jon were annoying mistakes.

>>91223416
Anon dog is a metaphor here.

>>91222699
I went from reading everything in Rebirth (most from storytimes) to only reading Batman, All-Star Batman, Nightwing, Flash, Superman, Super Sons, and Deathstroke from Rebirth. Flash is pretty easily my least favorite of those. It's pretty generic and the narration/dialogue almost never feels natural.

>>91223446
It's monthly. Not bi-weekly

>>91223474
t. Tim/Chris fag.

>It's another "thread derails into argument about Robins episode"

Dick is the only non-expendable member of the Bat-Family. Complaining about the others is pointless.

>>91223518
If Dick is the only non expendable member why does he suck so bad outside his book and inside his book

>>91223518
Freak off Dickfan. You aren't any better than Damianfans.

>>91222334
Why does /co/ hate Snyder so much?

>>91223537
>>91223607
Think about it.
We've had a continuity without Jason. We've had a continuity without Tim. We've had a continuity without Damian. But how many continuities have we had without an equivalent of Dick?

>>91223495
When did Batman go Monthly? This event is 6 months long, but the King story arc is 8 issues

>>91223655
People feel he was sidelining the Bat-Family in his run.
He's seen as basically recycling Morrison's run
His story arcs have a tendency to be huge, "Gotham Will Burn" tier events
Loves secret histories/secret societies

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>>91223655
Less artful, edgier retreads of better stories. Droning exposition that spells the themes out explicitly.

>>91223655
Popular.

>>91223738
Oh, I forgot to add: his take on the Joker is infamously edgy and some feel he relied on the Joker too much (this was during the period people began to feel Joker was overused).

>>91223800
The implication being Morrison and King are not?

>>91222413
That's what I have been saying for months.

>>91222665
>>91222689
>What are your favorite Rebirth stories.
>no Batman
King BTFO

>>91223829
Simmer down. You know it's true. Go read some crappy james robison books.

>>91223829
>can't think of a real response so he spams two letters

Thanks for confirming it.

>>91223825
They get bashed too.

>>91223738
>His story arcs have a tendency to be huge, "Gotham Will Burn" tier events
Loves secret histories/secret societies
I can't actually argue with that he doesn't seem capable of writing villains without overly complex interconnected backstories and having Gotham being destroyed every five months starts to kill the effect of it

>>91223411
> No Damian in something written by Snyder
Quelle surprise, indeed!

>>91222818
never ever

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Fuck Metal.
Rocks rock!

>Mark Russel will write Cave Carson back up about rocks and it will be the funniest thing ever.

>>91223825
King is hated as well. And it's now that people gobble up Morrison's cock for writing best Batman ever, you probably weren't here when it was coming out. Contrarions hated it.

>>91223132
He also said it wouldn't really tie to Rebirth and those are supposed to. Hawkman being involved would make sense, but beyond that I don't expect much more than a hint toward either team.

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>>91224023
>you probably weren't here when it was coming out.

I was and it garnered some of the best, most involved, hypest threads this board has ever seen. The Return of Bruce Wayne/Batman and Robin, and the final days of Inc especially.

>>91223987
Not really. You are triggered by facts my retarded chum.

>>91224023
*As well as a lot of people. Seriously go look up reaction to stuff like RIP or Batman and Time and Return of Bruce Wayne or Incorporated vol 1 on some archived online forums.

>>91223411
Snyder get bonus from me for this alone.

>>91223825
I prefer Snyder over King any time. At least he actually cares about Batman.

Morrison lost a lot of points from me for introducing Damian.

>>91224023
>>91224078
There were haters but it was the peak hypercrisis discussion as well.

Normie opinions turned to his favor after Final Crisis after Batman and Robin.

>>91224078
Incorporated vol 2? Sure. Batman and Robin? Definitely loved. Stuff in between/before? People were just as mixed about it as they're about any Batman run.

>>91224142
Lol dude ur mad bro.

>>91224132
>Normie opinions turned to his favor after Final Crisis after Batman and Robin.
People shit on thing like Return of Bruce Wayne/Batman and Time and Incorporated volume 1 was seen as a big let down compared to Batman and Robin.

>>91224107
Introducing Damian was fine. That hack Tomasi reviving him is at fault.

>>91222699

The writing is good, but I'm not picking it up because I'm not a fan of the art of the main artist on it.

>>91222699
It's probably the best post-Infinite Crisis Flash run but it's still not good.

>>91222699
It's pretty generic but it's inoffensive.

>>91224319
Tim is horrible. Get cancer and die you retarded robinfag.

>>91224343
no it's not shut the fuck up

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>>91224389
>Get cancer and die you retarded robinfag.

Is J'onn coming back?

>>91224417
Do you really think the absolutely boring Manabooch run was better? The Waid arc with Wally's annoying children? Those would be the only two that challenge it.

>>91224428
Can you robintards please take your retarded internet forum drama from cbr or wherever the fuck you post away from here? You are by far the biggest cancer on /co/.

>>91224451
The boring Manabooch run had amazing art and Gorilla Warfare was alright. The current run has horrible writing and good art(but only when the main artist is on, and he's carried by the colorist)
Also, the Johns/Manapul run was good. Better than current run or Manabooch at least, which... isn't saying much but still.
And Rogues Revenge if it counts, because it was godtier.

>>91222665
What's the snapchat username?

>>91224602
I'm white you retarded neckbeard.

>>91224655
dchq

Humphries reveled in 25 Simon and Jessica are meeting the rest of the GLC and one of them dies and 25-30 is in space and not on earth.

>>91222665
>>Snyder: None of us are rooting for Marvel to fail. I’ll be the first one to pick up Secret Empire.

I believe him, because Snyder really does have the genuine excitement about him, I don't think he's full of shit at all. But I hate how he repeats himself, verbatim so much. It makes these things lose their weight when repeated so often. Especially with interviews where he accidentally gives away actual dialogue from "heavy" scenes in his comics.

>>91224696
Obviously Jessica dies and Simon heals her, right? Or did he lose that power? I'm way behind.

>>91224717
I don't know I don't read Green lanterns lel. He just updated a lot during the day and teased a bunch of stuff, answered a few questions etc. He's still a hack though. And he wears socks with little slices of pizzas on them.

>>91224541
The art being amazing didn't make Manabooch worth it. It was written much worse than the current run to me and made me feel bad that no one stepped in to give them a writer to match their talents. That disparity isn't as large on the current book right now though I'm still not a fan.

I'll give you the Johns/Manapul run, but I'm very torn on it. The promise that what was coming would be better is what drove my interest and of course none of it went anywhere because DC shoehorned in the reboot there. I guess it wasn't bad but I'm so soured on everything from that time period.

>And Rogues Revenge if it counts, because it was godtier.

True but I don't know if a planned mini can be called a run.

>>91224758
I watched those snaps also. He said 21-25 is when they meet the corps and the Volthroom story comes to a head and then 26+ is part of a big DCU story which is probably metal

>>91224783
Williamson is a much worse writer, Manapul and Buccelato are just mediocre.

So what is the next "big" convention that DC could attend? SDCC?. When I refer to "big" is something big enough for a even to get announced or something like WonderCon

>>91219015
Worse. War of Jokes and Riddles is supposedly supposed to be a FLASHBACK arc.

Given that Snyder still has Bendis level control over the Batbooks, when Metal is running, King's going to end up shuttled off to the kids table. Basically doing a flashback story which, from what has been leaked, is supposed to be a fix fic story retconning Year Zero to make it less shitty, telling Joker's first New 52/Rebirth fight with Batman with Riddler tossed in to damage control him being Gotham's biggest monster given what he did in Year Zero

>>91224712
This something I noticed about Synder and Tynion. They repeat their words a lot.

King on the other hand is a walking contradictions.

DC writers aren't good speakers.

>>91224813
Yeah, whatever, something like that. He did a pretty good job on being active and hyping up his stuff. Jody Houser had snapchat the previous day and she barely updated and they were just a few pictures.

>>91224712
Everyone knows the industry in its current model needs both companies to be strong to survive.

Of course we can debate whether the current model should survive or not as a consumer, but when it's real people doing work to support their families it's in their best interests to go with the guaranteed profit of the status quo.

Jim Lee was literally doing pushups with a fan on the DC Snapchat.
I love the DChad meme and how true it is

>>91224854
It sounds like it'll be pretty good to me honestly. Being a flashback will let it be more standalone, and that combined with being a long arc could fit King's writing style really well.

New video with Didio explaining it, he confirms death of hawkman was a lead in and that it's explained how he comes back:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xrrokgo4gdg

>>91224871
Yeah, I haven't actually watched a panel or video interview with Snyder before.

"Yeah it's all dark and stuff"
He speaks like a super excited child. Which isn't a horrible thing, but it's not great when you're doing public speaking like this.

>>91224817
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. I don't him to be worse than them at least on Flash.

>>91224854
Zero Year was great.

>>91225029
in what world

>>91220488
One leaker said Batman Metal was going to be "Crisis On Infinite Earth 3" with time breaking down, a time skip, and basically using time going on the blink to bringing back the Pre-New 52 JSA, speedsters, Earth 3 Crime Syndicate back. Basically an excuse plot to lazily bring back as many Pre-New 52 characters as they can via time rifts and a time skip so they can skip over reintegrating them back into the New 52/Rebirth timeline and just have them be back as if they never really left.

Another leaker gave a much tamer synopsis: Thanagar tech falls into bad guys hands and leads to a bunch of D-List villains getting new costumes and powers, Batman adding flight tech to the Batsuit after finding out the Thanagarians have a Bat demon creature in their religion to mind fuck them, and basically Duke having Dick's role in terms of being the guy who rallies the rest o the DC Universe together to fight the threat. Basically a fluff crossover to appease DC executives who want a Batman centric crossover to go up against Secret Empire, with DC telling their writers they can basically use it to revamp villains or just make fun of Gotham City gangsters running around with ray guns and flight belts playing Flash Gordan

>>91225074
this world.

>>91223746
This.

>>91222906
/co/ just likes being contrarian anon. There are great books in Rebirth right now.

>>91225091
If we truly get 1 Year Later recycled, how will refartfags still defend it?

>>91225091
>Basically an excuse plot to lazily bring back as many Pre-New 52 characters as they can via time rifts and a time skip so they can skip over reintegrating them back into the New 52/Rebirth timeline and just have them be back as if they never really left.
That is hilarious

>>91225131
For people with low standards maybe.

>>91225179
What are some genuinely great books being published right now?

>>91225091
>and basically Duke having Dick's role in terms of being the guy who rallies the rest o the DC Universe together to fight the threat
This infuriates me.
Dick's been on so many different teams and had interactions with so many different heroes that his place as "everyone's pal" in the DCU is organic and feels right. Goddamnit I hate Snyder's bullshit OC's hes been shoehorning in just because he doesn't feel comfortable writing the batkids.

>>91225179
Deathstroke is genuinely great.

Most of Rebirth definitely is only enjoyable as a characterfag though.

>>91225219
Deathstroke, Shade, Doom Patrol, Harrow County, Moonsine... Not much to be honest...

>>91225219
Superman, Super Sons, Deathstroke, New Super-Man, Titans, Nightwing

>>91221824
>>91221899
Yeah, I wish Seeley had the freedom to whatever crazy shit he wants to do.

Multiversal Dick Grayson stories with Seeley writing is like a dream.

>>91225334

lmao indie faggot, Doom Patrl and Shade are trash also

>>91225371
>refartfag

>>91225361
Hopefully with the tie-in they'll let him do whatever he wants with it at least instead of having to literally follow something Snyder plotted.

>>91225361
He does, he's just a bad writer.

>>91225371

ok kid go read your spiderman mags

>though the list was pretty trash

>>91225371
the majority of those books are not indie tho

>>91225453
Spiderman is hot garbage right now.

I'm hoping this indie suck train ends soon. Most of them are barely mediocre

>>91225245
Dick is being a A list hero and doing multiversal shit, I would rather Duke have this type of role and Tim can keep rotting in prison

>>91225359
>Superman, Super Sons, Titans, Nightwing
>genuinely great
Say what?

>>91225521
He's a pleb, don't mind him. They're enjoyable but not great.

Titans could be if it had a better artist (annual was rough though).

>>91225521
Shut the fuck up fagbitch it has REBIRTH written on the cover and REBIRTH means GREAT QUALITY!

>>91225334

No offense but taste is subjective and yours looks terrible.

>>91225359
What with this sudden meme that Nightwing is a great book? Or is it just dick fanboys being delusional like always?

>>91225560
>refartfag thinks his opinion is worth shit

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>>91225521
>Implying that those titles aren't great
Nigga do you even have eyes?

>>91225521

Define great. Super Sons is 2 issues in and both have been as good as you could want. Titans has been great, I don't really see how you could argue with this unless you dont' like the Titans? Nightwing started off great but went through a lull after the crossover but looks to be getting good again.

>>91225518
I feel like Dick's visions were just a prelude kind of thing to Metal, not actually signaling he'll play a big part in it. But I actually would love that role for Dick.
Why be everyone's pal on the main earth when he can be everyone's pal throughout the multiverse?

>>91225588
It has some great issues, but the other half have to be ignored. Somewhat inconsistent. I think it could get great in the long run but it hasn't settled in there yet.

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>>91225619
>Titans has been great, I don't really see how you could argue with this unless you dont' like the Titans?

Not him, but visual storytelling matters a lot. I will argue that Booth has been better than he usually is but structurally he's wrecking the narrative. His layouts are fucking puzzling.

>>91225608
I do have eyes which is why Titans and Nightwing aren't great.

>>91225589

>refart

I said it again mommy!

>>91225624
Oh, I'm sure in the actual book Dick won't have much of a role because Snyder is scared to use robins besides Duke, but I think his storyline will be pretty big in Nightwing

>>91225588
I think it's fantastic, but I definitely am a Nightwing fanboy.
It's very enjoyable if you like Nightwing, and especially enjoyable if you loved Morrison's B&R, since Seeley seems to be a fan of alluding to that run.

I think even without being a super fan of those things, it's still an enjoyable book. But I wouldn't put it as a top tier book just yet

>>91225668

>i cant be bothered to reed unless its a 3x3 panel

>>91225686
I just posted this >>91225698, like I said Seeley seems to love bringing back Morrison story elements so I imagine he's hyped as fuck to be able to do multiverse type stuff in the Nightwing book.
Now that you made me think of that, I'm actually really stoked for the Nightwing tie-ins

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>>91225635
It's fucking terrible. Rebirth #1 is a recap issue and half of #1 is exposition dump and then he starts off #2 with a recap page despite it all because he thinks his audience is too dumb to follow his simple as plot. Monologues galore which makes me think back to his early 00s ongoing. Well, that and the fact that he's just going full nostalgia pandering with Bludhaven and even fucking Blockbuster.

>>91225359
>a book with Booth on it
>genuinely great

Jesus christ.
That alone knocks it down to a 7/10, writing aside.

so does any anon have a link/stream to tom king's spotlight panel?

>>91225702
>Booth's shitty paneling is totally fine just because it's not 3x3

k

>>91225359
Deathstroke and maybe New Super-Man are the only good ones out of those. The others are fine if you're really interested in the characters but I wouldn't really recommend them otherwise. Honestly I even like King's Batman and Snyder's All Star Batman more than those.

>>91225334
This is a better list. I'll mention the other Young Animal comics Cave Carson and Mother Panic. They're not as good as Doom Patrol and Shade but they're still worth reading. Maybe Flintstones and Wild Storm has potential.

Outside of DC, the Archie Horror comics are great, although "published right now" is kind of a stretch from them. I'd recommend Mignolaverse stuff from Dark Horse and maybe Paper Girls and Descender from Image, but "great" might be overstating it a bit for those two. Providence hasn't finished yet, it's pretty great.

>>91225752
In Rebirth, people like Booth, Humphries, BASED Lobdell are superstars.

>>91225752
I'm pretty sure everyone who enjoys Titans are all people who have grown up with these characters, and we all survived the 90's reading a lot of well written books with mediocre to shit art so it's even nostalgic in that regard.

>>91225619
Like you said, Supersons has just two issues and it's too freaking soon to be called great. Titans and Nightwing are freaking medicore. Some issues were good, the most are inconsistent and medicore as heck.

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>>91225800
>there are people who genuinely believe this

>>91225807
Everybody who enjoys Titans are Wallyfags that are just glad he's back.

Garthfags, Bumblebeefags, Lilithfags don't even exist, and Royfags and Donnafags don't exist in large amounts.

>>91225219
Off the top of my head, the DC books I'm enjoy are
Prieststroke
Superman
Supersons
Justice League of America (More multiverse type shit going on right now)
Nightwing
The Flash
Cave Carson
Shade, the Changing Girl
Titans

>>91225776
>>91225752

>im an autist and I can enjoy nothing

>>91225875
But I enjoy Titans a lot. I just think Booth is shitty and is hurting the book.

So, Hawkman is coming back and Didio confirms that the multiverse is in play.

>We’ve just recently killed Hawkman,” DC Entertainment Co-Publisher Dan DiDio said in an interview with Syfy Wire, “so you’re wondering, ‘How is he going to be in this?’ Well, that ‘Death of Hawkman’ actually leads very nicely into the events that take place in ‘Metal,’ and actually, hopefully to bigger and better things afterward.”

>Written by Scott Snyder and illustrated by Greg Capullo, “Dark Nights: Metal” is described as the former “Batman” team’s “rock ‘n’ roll epic.” According to DiDio, the entire DC Universe is at risk in the event. “Not even just our world,” he said, “but multiple worlds at risk.”

http://www.cbr.com/dark-nights-metal-dc-hero-return/

>>91225867
True. I'm 100% okay with Titans being "Wally & Friends", but I know that's not what everyone wants from it.

>>91223988
It's gonna be tough to beat Bane's coloring book

>>91225827
I do because RHATO has been really great.

GLs is medicore-decent.

>>91225875
>I enjoy shit body proportions, shit paneling, shit faces, and shit coloring

>>91225870
>I'm enjoy
Doesn't make a comic great. I like Mother Panic and Descender but they're not genuinely great comics. They're just good. And I REALLY like Descnder, but it's problems cannot be ignored.

>>91225875
So if you can't enjoy Booth then you can't enjoy anything? Fucking autistic characterfags...

>>91225896
I wonder if Rise & Fall of Captain Atom mini has any Metal hype to it as well.

>>91225588
Dickfags are really just fags

>>91225870
Superman is easily my favorite comic coming out right now. Even my roommate who isn't that big on Superman enjoys the hell out of it.

>>91225942
>>91225908

The fact that youre so triggered by a name on the front of the book makes you autistic, yes.

>>91225870
Just because you enjoy it doesn't mean it's good.

I enjoy Cave Carson, Bombshells, and Taylor's Wolverine, but even I know the best those get is okay.

And Injustice isn't a /co/ favorite because it's good.

>>91225904
Red Hood has been quite the suprise. I have dropped so many books, but this still in.

>>91225967
So it's casualbait?

>>91225917
It's Sunday man, I've been day drinking
And no, those aren't great but I honestly don't find any comics being put out right now particularly or objectively "great"
There's a bunch I'm having fun reading and a bunch I didn't enjoy enough to keep reading, sorry for not really answering that question I guess

>>91225219
New Super-Man, Shade the Changing Girl, Future Quest, Nova, Gwenpool, Doctor Strange and the Sorcerer Supremes

>>91225978
I'm more "triggered" as you say by the shit interiors he does, actually. I don't understand how you can talk, you have 0 standards.

>>91225978
Characterfaggotry so strong you call shit art good so more autistic than not liking shit art, anon.

>>91225994
it's feel good stuff like the first half and last arc of Tomasi's B&R, so yes, that's pretty casual bait.

>>91226001
Sorry, I forgot /co/ deals in absolutes between books being utter shit or cumming at every other page

>>91226029
>good stuff
Uhh...
Let... let's just say "in your opinion".

>>91226029
>>91226025

>characterfags are bad
>artistfags are ok

The state of this board

>>91226039
What the fuck is this comment and what the fuck does ti have to do with the previous posts? Are you autistic or something?

only good DC books are New Super-Man, Deathstroke, Green Arrow, Red Hood & the Outlaws, Shade the Changing Girl, Doom Patrol, Flinstones, Future Quest and Green Lanterns

>>91225896
literally posted that already>>91224988

>>91226064
Anything is better than a characterfag, yes.

>>91222976
Kill yourself.

>>91226101
>Only new good books are these nine

If nine books from one of the big two appeal to you, that's not bad.

>>91226064
Didn't you know? The art a comic book has is far more important than the story? A comic written by the worst writer is easily a masterpiece if the art is great.

>>91226064
Characterfags are worse than liking somebody based on talent, yes.

>>91226141
but majority of Bat/Superbooks suck and JL/JLA both boring as fuck
Lobdell is the best Trinity writer right now

>>91225521
They're great.

Are you blind as well as retarded?

>>91225334
>Harrow County
>Moonshine
>good
Wow anon, you truly can show how mediocre Rebirth is to test of /co/ with your shit taste.