Good fucking riddance.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ITS REAL

>>91186009
i wonder what his art will be like after he gets out

>>91186009
Can't believe it took this long. I know people hate on him for being really "edgy" but damn if it wasn't hilarious to hear about what retarded thing he's done next.

>>91186009
This is what you get for not hiding your power level.

Fuck you, Shad you fucking idiot.

>>91186087
high chances it has nothing to do with the content itself, but only the use of an IP or real person name. parody and fair use aren't automatic. And a judge can decide using pornography on a real person is the same as slander.

>>91186009
Someone explain who this is and what is happening.

What did he expect?

>>91186109
He deserves this and more.

Call me a fag but I'm new to /co/ and other comic shit.

What is this guy and what's his deal?

>>91186009
>legal issues
Post yfw Shad got v&

>>91186129
Shadman draws porn of underage girls with big dicks and tons of tattoos/piercings

>>91186129
Drawing pictures of lolis and ranting about how CP was natural

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>>91186009
He expected a different outcome?

>>91186153
>>91186152
Wow what a fucking degenerate. Glad he's getting fucked

I don't like his art but still, I hope whatever is happening goes ok for him

>tfw this is because he made that pizzagate image

>>91186066
50 years is a lot of time to improve

everyone saying this is good are idiots, even if you hate this man.

if he really gets fucked by the law for drawings, that is a pretty huge fucking deal, legally.

it means you can be arrested and jailed over subjective art, with OR without intent based solely on perception. its one step away from thought-crime.

All this schadenfreuding here and on /ic/...

It's kind of pathetic.

>>91186066
Probably still the same only with more "safety-triggers" this time around.

>>91186009
I heard this guy draws pedo shit now? If so then fuck him. He deserves whatever is coming to him.

>>91186009
I don't get the absolute hate for Shad, someone explain it to me.

>>91186186
There's a possibility he actually had CP on his hard drive.

>>91186153
>>91186160
>>91186191
go home reddit

>>91186191
I don't think he does, actually deserve anything, because its a drawing.

you DO know that isn't, and shouldn't be illegal right?

>>91186149
He's a porn artist. We hate him for his edgy tastes and art style.

>>91186216
Nah, he's not a pedophile.

>>91186009
I bet it was Blizzard

>>91186196
I think it's just because he's outspoken and his art is polarizing in terms of content and quality

>>91186221
People who draw butt piercings deserve to be sent to the cross.

>>91186186
Dumb libtard

>>91186186
This. The jews and feminists who push for the criminalization of fiction should be terminated before they turn the world into 1984.

>>91186186
Wasn't he drawing pics of real people? I'm okay with>>91186196
fictional characters, but real people is messed up, a lot.

>>91186186
this, is he in the US?

>>91186191
Someone think of the children! The sexy futa children!

Please don't be a April Fools, please please please be real.

>>91186239
Another pearl of tolerance from your local sjw friend, /co/.

>>91186186
Nigga he drew porn of actual little girls

>>91186225
drawings of minors in sexual context is illegal in parts of the world. depending on where shad lives, he may be guilty of manufacturing cp.

>>91186186
>it means you can be arrested and jailed over subjective art

> porn of real children is a matter of taste

>>91186279
that still doesn't matter.

The reason he's in legal shit is because he drew real people as children. (Hilloli clinton)

>>91186216
Not really. yours on the on the hand... I mean, gotta fit that whole 2017 "muslim cutlure is the future" prayer after all.

I don't like him because in that one flash with the koopa troopas was shittily animated. It looked like Mario was poking their butthole instead of shoving his dick in and out their butthole. So fucking disappointing.

>>91186133
freedom of speech, as clearly stated in the local country's law.

>>91186279
Drawing porn of real people is illegal in america?

Hopefully the TLH pedos follow him in jail.

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HAHAHA SHAD ETERNALLY BTFO.

>>91186281
>getting jailed over subjective cartoon girls.

mind blowing when you really think about it, just how far can they stretch what they consider to be "child porn"? not in Shadman's case, but in a general one.

I mean seriously, just think about it, if I draw two stick figures fucking and cap the art with "teen fucking" underneath, that is, in those countries, legally "child porn".

>>91186275
You need to realize what a joke is Anon.

>>91186279
Security theatre at its finest.

>>91186128
This. Every internet content creator has no fucking clue what fair use even is and they're always surprised when they get shit on. I doubt he's in trouble because his porn was edgy

>>91186289
that isn't illegal in any way.

or at least, it wasn't, and it shouldn't be, Hillary clinton is not a child.

>>91186309
no, it isn't.

>>91186183
50 years have passed...

>>91186318
it's pretty crazy. there was that famous case where some guy in australia got in trouble with the law because he had a bunch of porn featuring the kids from the simpsons.

How can we help him? Should I send Patreon money to him?

>>91186319
>I was just joking brah who care!
yeah, not buying it.

>>91186318
Wasn't there a few stories a while back of kids getting arrested for sending nudes of themselves to their classmates?

I get that laws are supposed to be inflexible, I really do. But when you lock a kid up for something like that who is that law really protecting?

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What country is shad based in anyways?

>tfw all your loli art is commission only and not on your site

>>91186368
>But when you lock a kid up for something like that who is that law really protecting?

Laws aren't meant to protect anybody. They are supposed to make you feel good.

>>91186330
But LtCorbis and Keemstar's daughter are.

The real problem is that if he loses the case, he might put other artists that worked with him in trouble, like Polyle, or Zone.

>>91186370
USA, California.

>defending a pedo
Is classic /co/ back? Can we post lolis and 34 in the board without getting banned, like in the good old 2000s?

>>91186153
He never said it was natural
He stated that he likes drawing taboo things

>>91186370
pretty sure he's murrikan

>>91186196
Most of the hate comes from him doing shock value art. Like when that one youtube celeb died of cancer shad drew death buttfucking him

>>91186330
Hillary couldn't win against a cartoon frog, but she could win against a potential CP viewer.

>>91186390
and another pearl from the sjw religion. We gonna get lots of shit like that in this thread.

>>91186383
>>91186396
Thought he was from europe for some reason

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>>91186407
>if you're not a pedo, you're a SJW!

>when your art is so bad and overrated it becomes illegal
nothing against the guy but damn his art is mediocre at best. His subjects are super mild if you know how to go past the panda. And for some reason his fanboys want his name to be praised like he's the second coming of the Christ.

>>91186294
Nice projecting, Shad actually defended CP in the past

>>91186279
The only thing that comes close to actual cp is the one of the 11 year old YouTuber
And even then it was just a buttjob with a microphone

Is this because he made porn of overwatch characters?
As far as i know blizzard has been tryng to do legal shit with their characters

How can I send him Money for help

>>91186419
Yes. Literally. What you are trying to do there is virtue signaling. You are denying people their most fundamental rights, based on not being on your side, and being labeled with a word you self claimed as an absolute evil. no different than terrorists praising the death of "infidels".

>>91186236
>he's not a pedophile

>>91186296
That was spazkid

>>91186435
>11 year old
Yup, not a pedo at all.

>>91186440
Just ask that kind FBI officer.

>>91186128
imagine if clinton has decided to press a lawsuit

>>91186432
Nothing illegal into debating subjects.

>>91186414
He's Swiss but he emigrated to the US.

>>91186442
>You are denying people their most fundamental rights

Drawing loli porn?

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>>91186442

>>91186390
Yeah, we have to retain this board's high moral stature and maturity. We don't want it to devolve into degeneracy on this site that's riddled with half-naked loli anime characters everywhere outside this board.

Let's just return to our "THICC" threads that are just obese people, or how about our waifu threads that really should just be /aco/ material. I mean please, can we take the high road just this once?

>>91186370
I thought he was from Switzerland and living there.

>>91186442
>Implying all terrorists are evil just because they're not on your side
Wow nice virtue signalling cuck etc etc redpill etc

>>91186128
Gonna say this is probably what's happening.
If it was for his loli content, he'd have been in trouble for it much earlier.

Also, my 2 cents on that matter since it's a topic going on right now: Drawings shouldn't fucking be illegal, no matter what they contain. It is literally something you don't have to look at if you don't like it, and unless they're using blood for ink, no one is harmed by the creation of a drawing. Hate the content or not, it's a fucking drawing.

Fair use is another matter of legality of course, and that's just the biz.

>>91186463
Ah that's it, thanks anon.

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>>91186442
>virtue signaling

>>91186469
>>91186472
>>91186468
You are reaching critical mass there. but you can virtue signal all you want, your memes aren't giving you any high ground there. Laws don't care about you being angry at people disrespecting your arbitrary religious morale.

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>>91186380
I don't know who the first guy is and zone has been past his prime for a while anyways

91186505
it must be hard going through life with such severe autism.

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>>91186221
>Actually, unironically defending pedofiles rights to draw kids.
He did a pedo drawing of somebodys kid. Unless you're in a third world country. It's illegal to draw that stuff. Think about what kind of people you are defending with that statement. The people who do drawings of child pornography are most likely to be pedofiles. And anyone else who is doing it just to be edgy is pretty stupid and better be prepared for the repercussions of their actions.

>>91186505
>virtue signal
>high ground
>arbitrary religious morale
4chan, where words become buzzwords.

imagine being in a courtroom and having the people prosecuting you present your awful fetish art as evidence
imagine your family being there, watching you go on trial for drawing freaky porn
since it's shad I doubt he'd actually give a fuck, but goddamn

>>91186498
>I'm right because you are defending a PEDO
>It's ok if you disagree you are a NAZI
>who cares ok he's RACIST

>>91186505
>Laws don't care about you being angry at people disrespecting your arbitrary religious morale.

> you're sjws
> you're religous conservatives

Make up your mind, anon.

>>91186521
>anon defends CP
>companies can buy his Internet user data now
>his browser shows recommendations of CP sites
Everything went better than expected.

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>bawww he drew porn of real people

So what? It's drawn porn, made of paper and pen. No actual children were harmed.

It's like retards forget the actual point of these laws. Pretty soon political cartoons will get outlawed too because they hurt the feelings of real existing people.

>>91186129
The unholy SJW/fundie anti-sex alliance has ruined the life of yet another lewd artist.

>>91186009
That's what you get for letting JLullaby post his shitty art

>>91186521
>are most likely to be
>just to be edgy is pretty stupid
The law doesn't punish on presumption or stupidity. The law punishes crimes.

Just because you don't like something, it doesn't become illegal.

>>91186549
May I see your hard drives, anon?

>>91186505
Just let them be, I don't care for people who obsess over lolis but it's drawn porn. Somehow this is a crime to them. Possible slander? Maybe, but as >>91186488 points out, it's probably not for that anyway. Outside of that, why the fuck does /co/ all of the sudden think a political stance on what should be drawn matters when the entire site features loli porn on half the boards? How many threads exist on /co/ that are waifu crap with kids in them?

>>91186549
>So what? It's drawn porn, made of paper and pen. No actual children were harmed.

You don't see how it might be bad for a kid for pornography of them to exist?

>everyone is this thread
April Fools

But yeah, he and his fans are degenerates though.

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I only enjoyed to see his furry art, the loli thing was too much imo

>>91186531
>imagine your family being there, watching you go on trial for drawing freaky porn

He drew porn of his mom so that'd be something else to add to the pile.

>>91186348
Good to know you're a massive retard

It's probably a trademark dispute.

If he makes a "parody" that's too close to the original or could arguably be confused as official or legitimate, then it's not a parody.

I'm assuming somebody googled from a company, saw his art, sent a notice.

Everyone who unironically uses the word "degeneracy" should be permabanned

>>91186562
But if the law punishes it, doesn't that make it a crime?

>>91186391
This. It was his gimmick, his artistic fascination. But sadly some people are asshats and can't understand that.

By the same logic of such idiots, I should be jailed for being a murderer just because I made a painting featuring a baby getting mawed by a wolf for a local art exhibition.

My, aren't I disgusting monster of a human being, eh, guys?

>>91186531
He also drew porn of his mom. I wonder is she saw that.

>>91186571
>people who obsess over lolis
Like the angry pedo there?

>>91186580
>03/31/17

>>91186593
Degen.

>>91186549
>Pretty soon political cartoons will get outlawed too because they hurt the feelings of real existing people.
Maybe the hebdo shooting could be a reference.

"We're banning all political cartoons because there is a high chance they will result in islamic terroism and loss of life. Oh and people who create cartoons like these are very likely to be racist and sexist, which is problematic."

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>>91186531
That is in my opinion the worst shit one could experience.
If I were him I'd kill myself.

>>91186572
Not the same guy, but if that's the case being made, then that's a fair point. I thought it was just about lolis that were all fictional.

I feel bad for him his art is great he didn't do anhtbing wrong or illegal.

>>91186521
>most likely to be pedofiles

How do you know? How the fuck could you possibly know?
And yeah man, let's ban drawings that hurt literally nobody. Might as well ban other things too! What else hurts your poor little feelings?

Also everything Shad makes is original art, it's not like he's tracing actual porn, if he was it would look better

>>91186452
I never denied it

>>91186549
>No actual children were harmed.

It could be considered libelous if it defames a person's reputation.

IT'S SOMETHING UNPREDICTABLE BUT IN THE END IT RIGHT

I HOPE YOU HAD THE TIME OF YOUR LIFE

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>>91186580
>Shad is so much of a contrarian edgelord he pulls april fools pranks when it isn't april first

This is a fucking April fools joke, calm down

>>91186625
Your calendar is broken.

>>91186589
you got exposed several time already, your clique is really going all out in this thread, but in the bad way.

>>91186593
The word wasn't a problem until /pol/ got to it and you retards decided that every usage of the word was /pol/. Get the fuck out.

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>>91186565

Yeah faggot you can, I don't own any CP. Get back in your time machine and go back to Salem.

>>91186572

Understand what legal precedent is. If an artist gets convicted of a crime because he drew a picture of a little girl getting fucked (READ: drew a picture, it's a cartoon, the character getting fucked does not exist) then congratulations, you have just obliterated all art via a shitty lolicon picture. The precedent now exists to stamp out any art if it portrays something taboo or illegal.

Somehow I'm not surprised this faggot board is so eager to set that precedent though, you'd pile up every Roman and Greek statue in a big firepit if it made an internet nazi cry.

>>91186639

The word was never used on 4chan until /pol/.

>>91186605
Most people's problem with him is how he tries to be edgy by drawing porn of real people, including kids.

>>91186607
>he didn't do anything wrong or illegal.

Trademark infringement is absolutely illegal.

So is libel.

>>91186640
>I don't own any CP
Prove it.

>>91186521
>It's illegal to draw that stuff.
No matter how your brainwashed sjw brain has been conditioned, your hate != the law.

>>91186596
One is fine, but if your entire catalogue of art was different wolves eating babies, I'd probably think you were weird.

>>91186009
>canada

>>91186638
I just got to the thread and read the reply chain you fucking moron. One, I'm not that poster, and two, I don't think you get "exposed several times" when literally the only replies you made to him were your moronic inability to catch a joke. Kill yourself.

>>91186521
It wasn't a pedometer drawing he recreated a picture of her using his artstyle

Oh that is good to know. When artists are on Tumblr and draw Nintendo shit I can report them fine, they get taken down fine, but Shadman never used Tumblr so it was hard to get to him.

But this works fine. Can't wait to see what happens to him.

>>91186505
>Using the law to defend pedophilia.
John Podesta is that you?

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>>91186654
>libel

Germany just had a big parade where Trump was raping someone and the Queen of England was committing suicide with a gun. Doesn't matter though because those are acceptable targets, much like people who draw loli crap. Just admit you want the law to cater to your feelings and not any objective scale of justice.

>>91186651
>>91186639
despite what the left want to believe to excuse their electoral loss, /pol/ isn't a person, nor an organisation, and even less of a hivemind. nobody agrees in that board, so stop pretending they are coordinating your failure.

>>91186640
>Understand what legal precedent is

> all the world follows my exact legal system

Also

> praising roman sculpture
> greek knock off and mass produced bodies

Garabatoz going to jail when?

>we used to have a board for loli
>now people are freaking out about someone drawing loli

really gets the noggin joggin

>>91186667
>he recreated a picture of her using his artstyle

And that becomes a libelous act if a person could reasonably assume the drawing was sponsored by that person when it was not.

Shad could be seen to be profiting from the image/persona of another person, which is also not legal.

>>91186693
>Tumblr: The Board

>>91186654
neither happened so why do you care

>>91186686
Trump and the Queen are free to sue, I guess.

>>91186623
>Shad is so much of a contrarian edgelord he pulls april fools pranks when it isn't april first

Technically it already is in some parts of the world. And anyway, most aprils fools start in late march.

>>91186693
Well it's mainly 4 people repeating that he drew real kids as lolis, but yeah, pretty much

>>91186686

not all countries are the same

not all countries are the same

not all countries are the same

>>91186683
>the law shouldn't defend people I want to kill based on my religious education
Al quaeda is that you?

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>>91186699
>>91186711
>draw my neighbor fucking his dog
>post it on the internet
>he sues me for libel, I must now pay 500k in damages

What a great future you paint for us

Good.

I hope they get all these fucking pedophile artists and give them what they deserve. It's disgusting how there's so many of them now, some of them even get paid for their works. I thought it was illegal to pay for child porn.

>>91186711
But see how easy moral judgment is?
>kids like parades
>they probably saw the floats
>now it's too offensive, no more parade floats with such vulgarity

>>91186562
>The law doesn't punish on presumption or stupidity. The law punishes crimes.
That's right. That's why he is facing legal issues. Because he committed a crime.

>>91186725
> my actions shouldn't have consequences

>>91186673
leftists ladies and gent's.

>>91186705
>neither happened so why do you care

If you draw a picture of a real person and make money off it, the actual real person can stop you from distributing the image unless you give them a cut of the proceeds.

This is the foundation of people licensing their image for sponsoring a product.

Shad can absolutely get wrecked for drawing real people.

>>91186725
Is it actually that hard for you to not draw your neighbor fucking his dog? Is this a real problem that might come up?

>>91186728
>(You)

>>91186713
>Doing the thing that is done on april and even has april on it's name on march
Didn't know ghoul school fags liked april fools too

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The Day of Reckoning is upon us!!!

>>91186750
>Is it actually that hard for you to not criticize or satirize things via art?

>>91186662
But would he deserve to be jailed for that?

Last I checked, there was no crime for being weird.

>>91186720
as far as art laws goes, the USA is probably the most open. There's a difference between what American media allow themselves to do for PC reasons, and what they could actually show if they only limited themselves to the law. USA could have blood in teenager shows. They could have as much pantyshots and asses as Japan. Those aren't illegal, but people who watch and make those shows just don't like it (on average)

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>>91186236
>he's not a pedophile

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>>91186750

Yeah great, say goodbye to South Park and Family Guy and every major television cartoon that makes fun of living people. Now all those living people can sue and have a legitimate case. But it's okay because "those shows suck anyway" right?

We will also have to kick all the political cartoonists to the curb since you can no longer satirize people with drawings. Porn artists will also be systematically taken down, SFM or drawn, because those characters are copyrighted and sometimes even real people. "It's okay though because they sucked anyway."

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>>91186476
>"THICC" threads
More like Dobson Generals

>>91186763

W-what? There's no satire in drawing someone fucking a dog! It's just someone fucking a dog!

>>91186770
>as far as art laws goes, the USA is probably the most open.
lol
LOL

>>91186796
>your drawing means what I tell you it means

>>91186749
>If you draw a picture of a real person and make money off it, the actual real person can stop you from distributing the image unless you give them a cut of the proceeds.
No, there's fair use laws to prevent this from happening in most cases. It's really hard to do it in the USA. Other countries tend to have less freedom on the matter, but even then, politics are usually considered "public people" so they nearly never win a case unless it's specifically meant to produce deception, like building up a false interview or editing a real picture.

>>91186793
>Porn artists will also be systematically taken down, SFM or drawn, because those characters are copyrighted

Do you live in a cave or what? Companies mostly ignore this because of the bad pr it causes to persecute, but it's already a thing.

>>91186521
Shadman is not a real pedo. He can't draw kids first of all.

The dude is basically a leftover of the 90s anti PC movement. Shock for shock's sake. Edge for edge's sake, etc.

>>91186148
>autist draws porn
>deserves to be thrown in jail
you are retarded.

>>91186793

you're an alarmist moron.

Parody law is well protected, what Shad has been doing for a while isn't parody.

>>91186780
He could be, it's not illegal. You gotta wake up, the western world is build on equality, thought crimes aren't a thing there. If you want to stone gays and cartoon lovers, you can move in the middle east.

>>91186793
the New-Lefties are the most shortsighted fucks on earth.

they will do and enable and allow anything so long as it lets them "get" their political enemies, at this point I am convinced, completely fucking convinced they'd enact and enable the most draconian fucking laws if it meant Trump couldn't be president, even if it meant their untold suffering and loss of freedom.

ANYTHING for that gotcha moment, its mind-boggling, even straight ghetto crackheads have better logical thinking and an understanding of consequences.

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>>91186812

No, what they do is they conduct a SLAP on porn sites who are obviously too poor to ever compete with huge companies over several years in court. The sites just fold and remove the content because it's easier.

And even then it doesn't fucking work because Paheal can just go "okay, the Overwatch tag is now called 'Overlook' now" and suddenly it's legal.

>>91186693
Its shitposting, its always shitposting

>>91186831
>what Shad has been doing for a while isn't parody.
Dude just because it's against your idol doesn't make it illegal, stop that shit already.

>>91186837
>conservatives defend CP
Interesting.

>>91186612
>How do you know?
Because who else would actually express interest in drawing that stuff without feeling disgust in themselves for what they did.

>>91186657
Look at yourself. You're defending someones right to draw pedophile content. Even if it isn't a matter of law, it's a degenerate act that should be discouraged in society. Relax man. This isn't something you need to defend.

>>91186667
I haven't actually seen the picture but if there isn't anything sexual about it then that's fine. A little weird to draw someone's kid and maybe a bit degenerate but fine. Then again the internet does a pretty good job of making everything sexual.

>>91186764
No, that's what insane asylums are for

>>91186796
>I get to define subjective intepretation.

the authortarian left, never not funny.

In all honesty, though, fuck your /pol/-lefty/pol hatefuck bullshit: How stupid is he for not just saying this tomorrow instead? It would have been swept under the rug, and it could have saved him a lot of attention on the matter unless that's what he wants, maybe this is a planned prank.

>>91186831
>what Shad has been doing for a while isn't parody.

If a cartoon of Honey Booboo getting her brains blown out on South Park it's okay, but if a cartoon of some eceleb's kid getting the dick is made suddenly we have to put the artist in jail.

>>91186009
ITT: Shad triggers /co/

>>91186066
prison white supremacist porn

>>91186857
>pedophile content

Fuck off you marxist bellend, your alarmist terms like "pedophile content" mean nothing outside of legitimate child abuse

>>91186857
it is most important to defend the right to do shit we disagree with.

its easy as fuck (especially for you) to only care about and defend shit that agrees with us, the entire point of it all is to insure people can do the things we disagree with (in the context of say art)

this new-age Moral grandstanding is fucking pathetic, we'd lose so many freedoms under your sort of mentality, if it were mainstream.

>>91186871
>It would have been swept under the rug, and it could have saved him a lot of attention on the matter
>unless that's what he wants, maybe this is a planned prank.
He's an attention-whore, this isn't new.4/1/17

>>91186810
>No, there's fair use laws to prevent this from happening in most cases.

Children, even youtube "stars" are not gonna fall under the public use.

>>91186876
>If a cartoon of Honey Booboo getting her brains blown out on South Park it's okay,

Yes, because south park is cartoon that caricatures a public person with a tv show.

>but if a cartoon of some eceleb's kid getting the dick is made suddenly we have to put the artist in jail.

Yes, because that person is not a public figure and profiting from their image is denying them revenue from their personal image.

>>91186857
>You're defending someones right to draw pedophile content.
Absolutely, your fanatical morale can't dictate what people are allowed to draw, of what they masturbate to.

>>91186855
>>91186837
Look, you're both being neglectful. Defending loli porn is one thing, potentially being charged for making real children into loli characters is up for debate, though. Saying he's defending CP, while at the same time he's acting like this is the end times of freedoms isn't an accurate breakdown of what's happening at all.

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>>91186903
fucking this, i may not like him but i would gladly defend his right to express himself as long as it doesn't break the law (and i mean really break the law and not just get close because americans getting triggered by sex for the millionth time)

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>>91186009
y'know I'm not into Loli, I've never been save for the newfag mentality that you nee to like loli to fit in somehow, I've never particularly shunned people that like it save for the creepy bunch that can't help but express his enjoyment by being creepy and predatory about it but hey as long as they didn't bring that shit into real life it was all cool. That being said this is really fucking funny because seeing people that are smug and have had it easy for their entire lives getting shat on gives me a special kind of schadenfreude.

>>91186968
>that person is not a public figure

>a public figure, either a public official or any other person pervasively involved in public affairs, or. a limited purpose public figure, meaning those who have "thrust themselves to the forefront of particular public controversies in order to influence the resolution of the issues involved."
>A person can become an "involuntary public figure" as the result of publicity, even though that person did not want or invite the public attention. For example, people accused of high profile crimes may be unable to pursue actions for defamation even after their innocence is established

You are not a lawyer, don't pretend to be one.

>>91186968
>because that person is not a public figure
>hillary clinton
>other ecelebs

>>91186903
>it is most important to defend the right to do shit we disagree with.
True. But I don't think defending peoples rights to draw kiddie porn is the best place to start with upholding that philosophy.

> new-age Moral grandstanding is fucking pathetic, we'd lose so many freedoms under your sort of mentality, if it were mainstream.
Isn't it pretty much mainstream already at this point? I mean people are losing their jobs for saying or doing things people disagree or get outraged with.

>>91186871
it wouldn't surprise me at this point.

>>91186857
>without feeling disgust
You can get people to fly planes into buildings, is that much of a shock someone could draw a picture without feeling anything?
And remember, it's still a picture, no actual human being has been harmed at any stage of this process

>>91186982
It is perfectly fine to defend illegal activities as long as you use words. Should you be remembered of what was illegal in this world a mere 50 years ago?

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>>91187019
>drawn cartoon = CP

There you go again.

>>91187000
>he was privileged (according to my desire fuck facts) so I'm ok
You aren't even trying anymore

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>>91187048
CP is cartoon porn

>>91186009
Shouldn't we be worried about what sort of precedent whatever he's landed in might set or are we all still too petty for that?

>>91186066
More BBC, most likely, heyo.

>>91186498
Virtue signaling is the SJW equivalent of e-peen.

>>91186990

hey anon i'm gonna put your real name and face on my "how to fuck goats" kit and i'm gonna mail promotional copies to all your relatives

then im gonna run commercials where a photo-realistic drawing of you talks about how much he loves to fuck goats because it's like fucking little girls.

and there's nothing you can do because you once uploaded a youtube video which makes you a celebrity forever

There obviously exists no legal recourse for you to stop me from profiting off your name and face and I'm definitely not misconstruing your character to the public.

I am like unto a god.

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>tfw no more comfy shad leta play stream where he's chill and normal and shit

>>91187019
it is absolutely the "best place" to start, sorry it makes you uncomfortable.

>>91187019
>True. But
No, no but. You are denying the thing you pretend to defend, RIGHT NOW.

>>91187019
the keyword here is consistency, if what Shad does is considered illegal them might as well purge everybody else, the moment laws become inconsistent you start relying on moral compasses which leads to "delete this because i don't like it" mentality, and since consensus is that loli porn should be looked down to that means a biased witch hunt based on emotions

>>91186498
It's an important concept to understand, since it is one of the primary tactics of the enemy.

>>91186149
He draws super good on his Cintiq.

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>>91187069

Guess we have to shut down Saturday Night Live because they make money mocking public figures, even momentary and viral ones.

>>91187003
>>91187006

a little girl on youtube is not a celebrity you dinguses

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>>91186914
>youtube "stars" are not gonna fall under the public use
Exactly.

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>>91187069

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>>91187056
I'm not saying he was privileged but if you're gonna go and tell me he had a hard life that shit's gonna be hard to sell. He was some smug cunt I'm not gonna feel bad cuz he got his ass in trouble somehow.

>>91187075
actually its worse, its "put this man in a gulag because I don't like him".

I know this is true, because its happened many, many times in history.

>>91186662
I would be fine with that, Satan. Since for you to reach such a (subjective) conclusion, means that I've provoked thought or emotion of some sort in you through my imagery.
In other words, I would have done my job as an artist and that - that's what counts.

>>91186860
Made me chuckle, although to be honest the joke is kind of weak.

>>91187089

you're a god damn idiot who can't read

>>91187097
kek

>>91186703

Yes, i'm sure the people complaining about "degeneracy" are from tumblr :^)

>>91186982
Tell that to the judge, pedo.

>>91187092

Sorry but she is

>>91187082
I DRAW SUPER FUCKING GOOD ON MY CINTIQ and presto chango there's a woman with a cock

>>91186857
>it's a degenerate act that should be discouraged in society
no, it's people like you that should be banned in society. see, anyone can fantasize and draw stuff which arouses them - because it is just that, a fantasy, a thought, a musing. thoughts and fantasies - even the "bad" ones - aren't dangerous,or problematic.

Let's say you have a guy who fantasizes about rape and reads comics/doujins/novels containing rape, and even draws his fetish out in this. Does that automatically make him a rapist? no, because he hasn't acted on it. Dark thoughts are fine, they don't hurt anyone because they're not real. Get down from your pedestal, and actually think!

I can guarantee you that if you were to say a fetish of yours, no matter how tame, there will be people not only against it, but actively offended by it. does that mean it should be outlawed?

Should I stop supporting him on patreon?

>>91187019
Freedom of Speech is there to protect unpopular, disagreeable, disgusting speech.

If you're only defending speech everyone agrees with and supports, you're not defending anything at all.

>>91187069
>There obviously exists no legal recourse for you to stop me from profiting off your name and face

Actually, there is.

But it's a civil recourse. There's no reason for criminal charges.

>>91186805

Wow, great argument! I really never considered that viewpoint before.

>>91187093
Actually they're almost guaranteed to win.

>>91187123
But Keemstar's daughter isn't.

>>91187112

If Saturday Night Live decided tomorrow that you, Michael Smith from Goodsprings Nevada who shitposts on 4chan living with his parents because he's 14, were somehow worthy of televised parody they would be allowed to do it. "Public figure" in libel has not been something seriously used in ages because anyone can be made a public figure.

>>91186580
It's the 31st dummy

>>91187138
>Actually, there is.
>But it's a civil recourse.

Which is probably what Shad is embroiled in.

>>91187130
>
"Michael Christopher "Mike" Diana (born 1969) is an underground cartoonist. His work, which is largely self-published, deals with themes including sexuality, violence, and religion. He is the first person to receive a criminal conviction in the United States for artistic obscenity."

The law doesn't agree with you, degenerate.

this thread is a microcosm for the current hot problems in the west.

"liberals" (you fucks aren't liberals anymore, your just leftist authoritarians) using morality to accept any sort of injustice, and to promote further injustice based on it.

with literally everyone else on the political/social spectrum being aghast at where the leftists are steering society bit by bit, because they won the culture war in the 60's and have been at the helm of society since.

we can point out how insane they are, and how wrong these sort of things are, but it won't matter, we are forever being tugged in their crazy direction.

>>91187135
Depends how brave you're feeling. If the SOPA trials taught me anything it's that they can and sometimes will follow the money in certain cases, and one great way to get a reduced sentence is to hand over other names.

>>91186009
I don't get why so many people have such a beef with him.
For a loli artist he's significantly less explicit than 90% of jp loli artists. Even factoring the stuff he does of real people.

Am I missing something outside of his artwork that bothers people?

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>>91186009
The funniest part of this threads is watching you all trying to pretend to be the bigger man, doing your best to pretend you're not the same shade of asshole than the guy next to you just becasue you yourselves are a few checkmarks away on your own lists from being "a bad person". We're all shit people I don't understand why you lot try so hard to prove you're not.

>>91187198
Butt piercings and other fetishes he injects. I'm a vanilla man, I can handle his normal drawings and might even find one attractive once in a while, but the majority of his stuff is just awful.

>>91187217
Whatever you say, degen.

>>91187071
Then by all means if you think it's the best place to start. Lead the way.

>>91187198
his smug attitude and his corruption fetish are the stuff that people seem to have most of a beef with.

>>91187195
Have you considered converting to Islam? You can marry little girls if you're a Muslim.

>>91187195
>this thread is a microcosm for the current hot problems in the west.
>"conservatives" (you fucks aren't conservative anymore, your just far right authoritarians) using morality to accept any sort of injustice, and to promote further injustice based on it.
>with literally everyone else on the political/social spectrum being aghast at where the far rgith are steering society bit by bit, because they lost the culture war in the 60's and have been at the underside of society since.
>we can point out how insane they are, and how wrong these sort of things are, but it won't matter, we are forever being tugged in their crazy direction.

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>>91187219
>>91187231
Eh. Never bothered me. Though I don't really wank it to his work.

>>91187190

Mike Diana should be a demonstration on how not to handle this situation, not a rulebook for it.

>>91187217
>We're all shit people
Psychological evaluation of sociopaths shows they typically do not believe anyone else is genuinely morally inclined and cannot fathom why they ever would be.

>>91187195
I wonder if in 50 years you'll tell your grandkids you defended a guy that made explicit drawings of kids getting fucked on the internet.

>>91187195
>>91187237
if you are going to empty your strawman folder do it on /pol/

itt people who don't know about based Kawady Max or Oyster
Shad is a cool guy, but his loli is pretty damn lack luster.

>>91186531
>Shad gets sent to the slammer
>Gets out years later
>Starts drawing porn of his time on the inside
I now want to see porn of fuckboi Shadman getting raped by a BBC.

So is he pretty much an edgier version of Andrew Dobson?

>>91187237

Why do libtards always do this copypaste shit? Can they really not think up their own argument?

To anyone they supports him on Patreon. You might wanna jump ship now becuase you get dragged into a legal affair if this is about CP

>>91187233
Mudslimes also kill everyone who infringes on anything banned according to their Great Book of Feefees, you'd fit right in with their values.

>>91187255
And they'll think the same thing about you that you think of your racist grandparents.

>>91187190
and it doesn't agree with you either, you backwards-talking monkey.

>degenerate
see, there you go assuming things again. Why don't you head back to school, and enlighten the rest of your classmates with how much of an ass you are?

>>91187225
This was more aimed at the lolicons trying to pretend that they're somehow better than the people that want them punished just becasue of the fact. I'm not buying the fact that they wouldn't punish someone out of sheer pettiness.

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Well he is breaking the law.

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>>91187255

At least I'll have grandkids, you involuntary celibate.

Good, hopefully he gets raped either fiscally or in prison.

>>91187255
of course I will (still moral grandstanding I see) I don't do everything in my life to have a portfolio of how morally righteous I was.

new age narcissism, is a funny beast, people (like you!) spend all their time making sure everyone knows just how virtuous they are.

fuck whats actually, really right, fuck that, I need to have the high-ground!

>>91187255
I would. They weren't real. Unless he has actual CP, It's not an issue. This is just a slippery slope to getting everything banned.

>>91187298
>state law

>>91187190
Holy shit, this is a horrifying abuse of government powers.

>Fullerton sentenced Diana to three years of supervised probation, a $3,000 fine ($1,000 for each count), 1,248 hours of community service, and ordered him to avoid contact with minors. Fullerton also ordered Diana to follow a state-supervised psychiatric evaluation[5][6] at his own expense,[3] to take an ethics-in-journalism class, and ruled that he was to submit to unannounced, warrantless searches of his personal papers by the police and deputized probation officers from the Salvation Army, which would allow them to seize any drawings or writings. Although such random searches during probation are typical only in drug and weapons cases, Baggish stated that it was natural to extend this for obscenity convictions, saying, "Treatment is the most important part of the sentence", and that such searches were needed to force Diana "to refrain in a rehabilitative vein from this conduct. To cure the psychological maladjustment, [it's necessary] to catch him in his true state."

It's like an SJWs wet dream, throwing creators in jail for problematic content.

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>>91186693
>we used to have a board for loli
>Which, I have to remind you, was actually a bait board that ended with all those posters banned.

Or was that a furry board? I don't remember, but the thing is, there was never acceptance from Moot (or now from Moot2) for loli threads.

Which is damn good, shota is better.

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I hear prison niggers love little white pedophiles.

>>91187273
well he can actually draw by comparison, especially coloring, which he is so superior to dobson its fucking insane.

you can hate his art, but it has depth and even motion to it, something Dobson can't do.

>>91187298
He can argue it has artistic value.

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>>91187287
>tfw even if this is an early April Fools joke, I can report his Patreon now
teehee

>and it doesn't agree with you either, you backwards-talking monkey.
Don't care, I'm not a degen. Doesn't affect me.

>>91187217
it's their way of averting attention away from themselves, and whatever shit They're into.

if someone is preoccupied with this, they'll spend less time looking at their activities.

>>91187271
>its a parody of Mein Kampf with anal piercings

>>91187306
>>91187309
Why would you talk to your grandkids about porn?

>>91187326

Loli is allowed on /b/ and you're thinking of /fur/, which was a pointless gesture since /trash/ is basically the new /fur/

>>91187195
>>91187237
Horseshoe theory in action.

Once again, religious fundies and SJWs have the same tactics and goals, and a mutual hatred of liberty and free thought.

>>91187299
I have a daughter. I'd post a pic but Shadman would probably make porn of her

>>91187287
that isn't how the law works, and you know it.

and I say that because what you said is such a cartoonish, childish view of the law (in one sentence I might add) that I know you are being disingenuous, otherwise you have the depth of a fucking puddle.

>>91187273
They are bad in different ways

>>91187298
This shit has no power at all, all an artist has to do is claim the subject (the thing on paper that doesnt actually exist) isn't a minor and they are exempt.

>>91187340
>doesn't affect me

I'm sure it will when you aren't allowed to draw real people at all anymore because they'll sue you.

>>91187326
/fur/ was the honeypot, and /loli/ was serious but canned long before it iirc
banning was less of a pointless gesture those days. Containment is better than banning

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>>91187340
>I can report his Patreon now
Hadn't thought about that.
Thanks for reminding me.

>>91187371
>I have a daughter

Can we at least get your last name so we can watch her on CNN in a decade or two, having shot up a school for badthink?

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>>91187253
I believe there's good people but I don't really believe there's anyone above being petty or selfish in this world, I genuinely believe that if we all admitted that we all have the capacity to do shitty things instead of mentally punishing ourselves for it we'd be happier people. A long as you don't act on it and you're able to acknowledge it's not something you should do it's not an issue and it doesn't make you a bad person, too many people beat themselves over the fact that they have bad thoughts from time to time.

>>91187330
>implying they wouldn't ask him to draw porn for them

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>>91187378
I can't draw in the first place

>>91187340
>I'm not a degen
see, you're throwing this word out a lot. you are trying to hide something, and it shows. maybe it's insecurities, or just the fact that you're a regular moron, I don't know which.

Kek

Pedos BTFO

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>>91187394
No problem, Anon.

>>91187396
Does CNN report things that happen in Italy?

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>>91186009
You people need to leave this man alone! He's a good person that I used to file trade with!

>>91187404
I have nothing to hide. You? That's a different story. Sloppy-degenerate

>>91187340
>>91187394
Why the fuck are there SJWs on 4chan?

>>91187398
DRAW NIGGA DRAW

>>91187398
this this this this.

brother did minor amount of time, and any sort of porn artist is a fucking king in jail, they can basically do commissions for infinite favors, its like literally printing prison bucks.

Shad could literally make a drawing for a guy and he'd beat some other guy unconscious if it were the favor.

>>91187429
/co/mblr is real but these guys sound like /col/ to me.

>>91187429
>Being against someone drawing porn of underage IRL people is SJW

I wouldn't give a fuck if they were fictional characters, but we are talking about an IRL minor here

>>91187450
/col/?

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>>91187426
>Sloppy-degenerate
yeah, okay anon. Why don't you head back to grade-school.

>>91187323
I'm surprised they didn't rule that he was banned from drawing.

its clear the judge had a massive hate boner for the guy, they should have just gone the full distance and wrecked our legal system forever.

>>91186009
>paedos getting their JUST desserts

I hope all of you fucks get castrated.

>>91187472
People who post on both /co/ and /pol/

>>91187442
I never actually thought of this before. I have to wonder how the hierarchy is if an artist is capable of drawing good porn. Why isn't this on those "locked up" shows on TV

>>91187473
You first, old man.

>>91187471
>IRL

This is a drawing, not a photograph.

>>91187492
You'd think /pol/ would hate SJWs even more, not try to mirror their beliefs and behaviors.

Do you think that he will finally fix his proportions and make decent art now?

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>>91187340
>>91187394
Some men just want to watch the world get uncomfortable warm.

>>91187098
>but if you're gonna go and tell me he had a hard life that shit's gonna be hard to sell.
not only you can't prove your shit, but you are advocating that happy people don't deserve freedom? That sad people are always right? For what reason?

>>91187130
>it's people like you that should be banned in society
Notice how you said people should be "banned" where I merely suggested people who commit degenerate acts should be discouraged.
You seem to be getting a lot more emotional and radicalized about this which can lead to making some poor, hot-headed decisions.

By this logic everyone who worked on that Unteralterbach game should be thrown in jail, even when it was a blatant satire of German obscenity law.

>>91187553
the moral/social hierarchy,

its called the progressive stack, you see, people are worth less the more towards "white male" you get.

>>91187502
/pol/ and sjws are the same thing.

>>91187190
>if you defend someone from my illogical desire to kill him, you are HIM
wew lad, you are aware that lawyers don't get punished when they lose a case, right?

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>>91187465
Delet this.

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>>91187582

One could argue this is satire of Keemstar using his daughter to increase viewership.

Does anyone have any actual reasons to hate Shadman?

All I'm seeing is "lol proportions" and he's a meany. If that's all, this thread really is a mix of /co/ and social justice fags.

>>91187587
It's called demagoguery.

>>91187604
>I can't read
ok

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>>91186693
i wonder who could be behind it..

>>91187330
>people who do imaginary crimes should suffer real crimes (hopefully murder thehee) for daring to not be me
wew lad.

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>>91187614
He just loves his daughter anon pls

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>>91187621
>people actually supporting Keemstar over anyone

>>91187579
>You seem to be getting a lot more emotional and radicalized about this which can lead to making some poor, hot-headed decisions
true, and I can agree upon that - hell, even apologize for it! But you also have to realize that we are arguing - on an internet message board nonetheless- so, none of us have any real way of impacting anything, or each other. we can merely present our points, make jests, bait for posts, etc. harsh language and all that is, sadly, par for the course on both sides. it's both the advantage and the disadvantage when discussing things online.

I'm honestly just so damm tired of seeing this argument show up, because I personally find it ridiculous to persecute someone based on what they draw, or think.

>>91186378
It's a drawing, not a photo. You can draw whatever you want. You can't be arrested for drawing a picture.

There's no crime being committed but like I said they can sue him for "defamation" or libel or whatever, and because in America pedos are considered worst thing you can possibly be the suit would be guaranteed to win and Shad would have to pay millions of dollars in damages.

I can't believe people on 4chan of all fucking places are in favor of this. Shad may be an awful artist and a disgusting sicko but in America you're allowed to be those things if you aren't hurting anybody.

>>91187289
Me? Killing a fellow Muslim?

>>91186186
No, I present to you that locking up a person who draws porn of children has no downside.

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>>91187680
>they can sue him for "defamation" or libel

No they can't. Your understanding of the legal system is My Cousin Vinny.

>>91187680
>You can't be arrested for drawing a picture.
see
>>91187190

>>91187683
that's all muslims really do.

dream of killing jews while killing fellow muslims daily.

>>91186153
>ranting about how CP was natural

He didn't say that retard

>>91187677
Only argue if you think you will gain anything from that, only argue to improve yourself and figure out where you stand towards subjects, otherwise let people obssess over being right on the internet

>>91187683
it's more likely than you think!

>>91187579
>Notice how you said people should be "banned" where I merely suggested people who commit degenerate acts should be discouraged.
o yeah because "discouraged" doesn't mean having the jail sentence thrown at them when you have a wet fart.

Ahahaha fucking pedos holy shit

>>91186009
>People defending paedos

This board has gone to shit. It's not even the fact that he's drawn children. He's drawing them in sexually explicit context. You're retarded to defend him.

>>91187705
>using a hugely publicized and criticized case that got a judge disbarred to support your argument

>>91187754
>I can't accept facts
ok

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I think I know what his next webcomic is going to be about...