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Authentic Edition

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2017.htm

>Out This Week:
The Complete Nute Gunray Collection (April 1)

>Rebels 3.20/21: "Zero Hour" Parts 1 and 2
https://mega.nz/#F!6kczUR6L!03HhW1zTC92RQPHlO3Yi0w

>Rebels Recon: Zero Hour
https://youtu.be/MyUY7LnE4ls

>Download links: (Check here for new Rebels Episodes + Books, Comics, Films, etc)
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya

>Canon Guide:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t1KovH_1GYLDTAe3yrleeWiuzwulm670o_anQqr5Rcg/pubhtml

>Legends Recommendation List:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/147N5EgCnZmcPaDYvnGQwl9cn7BhBroFb7mD2C4cmWb0/edit?usp=sharing
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>>91175554
What's in The Complete Nute Gunray Collection?
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1st for imperial husbandos
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first for galen
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>>91175625
The greatest treasures the galaxy has ever seen
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>>91175629
KEKED OUT OF GALEN YET AGAIN
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Alright everyone. CHOOSE ONE (1) and EXPLAIN WHY

I'll start:

Aayla Secura, dat french accent and dem hips
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>>91175689
Padme because I hate myself
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>>91175689
Barriss because she's cute
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>>91175689
when will we get a husbando version of this

also shaak ti because of clone wars
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>>91175689
Ventress, for a short life, but a merry one.
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>>91175689
Zygerian Queen

Because she's not a cunt or a slut like literally everyone else on the image
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>>91175689
I want her as my confused Sith apprentice to satisfy my corruption fetish.
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Why didn't they keep this? She looks like a fugly pug with pupils
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>>91175689
>CHOOSE ONE (1) and EXPLAIN WHY
Do I have to? I'd rather choose none of them.
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>>91176003
I ain't forcing you to do it...
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>>91176003
>>91176027

kek
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Which alien species from TFA have actually shown up in canon afterwards?

Are they going to be autistic and not show any?
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>>91175689
Shaak Ti, because that striking red skin.
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>>91176123
Abednedo have been popping up here and there and the Darth Maul comic features the fly people from Maz's bar.
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>>91176027
Oh, good!
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STAR WARS WISHLIST?

> Count Dooku - Gets a novel by the writer of the Tarkin book.
> Boba Fett - Is shown to have escaped/survived the Sarlacc in the new canon.
> Boba Fett - Gets a new comic series or novel.
> Boba Fett - His stand alone movie is in his prime or after ROTJ not when he was young and inexperienced. Have Fett and old Harrison Ford have a final showdown set a few years before tfa like what happened in the tales of the bounty hunters novel.
> Boba Fett - Wanna do the replacement Michael B Jordan thing, fine, have him be trained by Fett who survived the Sarlacc but had to retire from his injuries.
> 8 - Is not played off like the "empire strikes back" of this trilogy as it wouldn't make fucking sense considering while the Resistance may have had a win by destroying Star Killer base, the new order destroyed the whole fucking republic (fuck jj)
> 8 - Del Toro's mystery character is a villain and replaces that bastard redhead stepchild nazi faggot quickly.
> 8 - Leia has a final confrontation with Ben.
> 8/9 - They don't really try to redeem Ben, he has helped commit multi planet genocide and killed his noble dad, it's done.
> 8/9 - Luke has a badass moment comparable to Vader's R1 scene.
> 8/9 - Luke duels Ben or tag teams him with Rey.
> 8/9 - Rey gets a double bladed lightsaber.
> 8/9 - Rey is sexualized at some point.
> 8/9 - They don't make Poe & Finn gay for each other
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>>91176155
stop posting this
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>>91176123

Abednedo?
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>>91176123
The not-Ithorian showed up somewhere.
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>>91176155
Most of this is fucking shit

you got shit taste dude. only agree with the first one
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>>91175689
Ahsoka cause she has great values, is ambitious, is a caring person, and has a nice figure.
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>>91175905
Because she looks like a ventriloquist dummy
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>>91175689

Chuchi because she's cute and blue and comes from a cool planet we could go skiing on.
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>>91175689
Ahsoka because she might not be dead yet
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>>91175689
>Aayla Secure
>focusing on the hips

l-lol??
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>>91176224
blue is best
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>>91176266
>literally an iguana

how fitting for literally blue human
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>>91176175
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Abednedo_(species)
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>>91176155

I want an A-wing standalone novel, a TIE one, a X-wing one, a Star Destroyer one. Iconic ships, and a Twilight Company style story to go with. Sick cover art too
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>>91176155
James Luceno writes a Count Dooku novel. It'll be called Dooku
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>>91176155
>the new order destroyed the whole fucking republic

that makes for an interesting setting though considering TLJ is immediatley afterwards

whole galaxy freaking out
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First for the Empire, and probably first for being called an edgelord/virgin/poltard/nazi/other buzzword.
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>>91175905
pupils work better on ventress than they do on thrawn imo
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>>91176590
You're not first you edgelord virgin poltard nazi cuck
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>>91176402
I WANT
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>>91176820
GALEN
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Does anyone have the webm of where Krennic slaps Galen
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Do Mirialans taste like kiwi?
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What does /swco/ think of Stackpole?
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>>91176983

If cooked properly, yes
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>>91176983
Yes.
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>yfw K-2S0 shows up in rebels to smack bitches
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>>91176590
It's autism then.
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>>91175689
Seventh Sister, because naughty teacher fantasies.
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>>91177504
Not all Mirialans are Seventh Sister you space racist
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>>91176123
Quite a few, but only really in background shots of comics to try and have some kind of continuity. The OT/PT ones are still heavily favored for obvious reasons. (hint: the TFA ones suck balls and are mostly OT ripoffs anyways)

The TFA manlet variants of Embo's species showed up in the Maul comic recently
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>>91177699
>hint: the TFA ones suck balls

miralians are shit tier and have shown up in everything it doesnt really matter how good they are
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>>91177419
>wtf you like the empire what are you autistic you fucking mentally retarded manchild?
>pardon me while i refute your argument with "fuck you dumbass doodoo headed retard RETARD FUCK YOU FUCK YOU" incoherently and retardedly
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>>91177419
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What the fuck was yoda talking about?
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>>91175689
Bariss, because she's cute, but also she has dat ass and titties.
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>one day when Krenic comes in to work everyone is wearing huge foam cowboy hats
>Krenic asks them about it and they say Emperor Palpatine ordered it as part of the dress code
>He thinks they're joking until he receives a write up for dress code violation
>Tarkin watches all holonet traffic on the Death Star so he sees the day Krenic buys a hat for himself and tells everyone not to wear their hats tomorrow
>that day Krenic is the only one wearing a hat
>everyone snickers as Krennic angrily walks around the offices in a huge foam cowboy hat demanding to speak to Tarkin
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>>91178630
>vaderd
It's like off-brand Sheeved.
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>>91178710
When? That puppet talked a lot of shit in 900 years.
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>>91178911
But the superior one is getting Tarkin'd

it involves the death star
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>>91178939
Getting Sheeved includes twirls and WWWHHHRRRRRR!
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>>91178938
You KNOW when I'm talkin about.
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>>91179054
I thought the Jedi cleared him of those charges? I mean, perhaps Younglings were, in fact, too young for The Talk, but you can't blame Yoda for that. His perspective on human aging is a little skewed.
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>>91178978
>headshot
>By deathstar

my death of choice 2bh
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The Aftermath books may be written by a complete fag but they do perfectly explain how the Empire becomes the First Order. I don't know why people don't see the obvious hints showing this in the books.
>The Imperial Remnant has people in it who want to find Snoke and have him lead the Empire. This is literally said to be Palpatine's plan and Sloane is loyal to his plans.
>Hux obviously begins building their army out of children from breeding programs.
>First Order name comes from Sloane's 'first order' after leaving Jakku.
>Sloane says that she doesn't feel like an Emperor but wants to be more than a Grand Admiral. Rax tells her that when their plans are done she can name herself Emperor or whatever title she wants to create. She likely ends up making herself Supreme Leader Sloane after Jakku.
Boom. Perfectly explains the First Order.
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>>91179236
Oh and forgot to mention that the Acolytes of the Beyond (who are led by the Imperial Remnant) obviously turn into the Knights of Ren.
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>>91179177
It's quick, sure. But it lacks the awesome wtf-ness of an octogenarian turning into a flying blender. THAT's a death you can be proud of.
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>>91179267
KotOR-fag here. I can confirm you're delusional. I've made my peace with non-canon status (Alternative Canon?).
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>>91179396
Yeah, I guess. The fact that the symbol showed up in clone wars is still fact.

Heck, Clone Wars canonized a lot from KOTOR.
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>nuLucasflim writers
>Declares EU to be non canon
>Proceeds to steal shit from it as if it was their own original work

Hacks, all of them.
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>>91179652
>literally the same people who made the EU
>stealing from themselves
Really gets the noggin noggin.
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>>91179806
This.

Thrawn was the first step, i'd imagine Revan would be the next notable EU character to be canonized.
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>>91179652
>Kathleen Kennedy has been working with George Lucas since 1981
>is now the head of Lucasfilm
let's see, who has more authority on the EU, her or Arraxxusxeyr
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>>91176155
> 8/9 - They don't make Poe & Finn gay for each other

Was with you right up until this one, anon.
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>>91179576

Individual symbols and pieces are canon, the whole thing is not. The jedi symbol is canon. The ancient mandalorian helmet from the era is canon. The jedi from that era aren't canon. The mandalorians from that era are not.

If they were, it'd be Traya's holocron at Malachor. But it's not.
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>>91179910
I'd rather Revan stay gone than come back as a woman
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>>91179910

Revan would be VERY radically reimagined, judging from Bane's TCW version.

I wouldn't be surprised if Revan had a name change too. We might just get an otherwise-unrecognizable character loosely inspired by Revan.
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>>91180820
Personally I want Revan to come back in a way that makes their gender/appearance completely ambiguous. Basically just keep all dialogue like the opening scene in kotor 2. That way nobody gets bootyblasted and the character's general air of mystery is preserved.
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Speaking of Revan, is he on the same power level as Vader or does Vader's status as force Jesus make him far more powerful?
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>>91176155

>Luceno Dooku novel

HELL FUCKING YES

>all that Fett garbage

No.

>The 8 stuff

Sure, sounds all right.

>The 8/9 stuff

Pic related except yes, Luke should duel Ben and lose.
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>>91180943
It goes:

Revan = Vader < Rey
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>>91180943
going by KOTOR he's super-mega-ultra-turbo-god of the sith
needless to say if revan ever gets canonized that's not happening
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>>91180943
I don't know a lot about Kotor because I've not played either in ages, but wasn't Revan just a good leader and not much else?
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>>91180943

It's a comparison between raw potential and realized potential.

Vader wins on raw potential, but died with so much still unfulfilled.

Revan wins on realized potential.
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>>91180996
What if Anakin/Vader is actually the reincarnation of Revan
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>>91181023
then both characters are ruined
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>>91181075
How are they ruined?
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>>91181014

Revan trained Alek "Squint" Squinquargesimus (later known as Darth Malak) all the way to knighthood, and was acknowledged by his teachers (or at least by Kreia) as being unbelievably gifted and powerful. Kreia said looking at Revan was "like staring into the heart of the Force."

Revan is at least on par with Obi-Wan Kenobi both as a leader and as a Jedi Knight, even if he was never formally granted the rank of Master. Possibly much more, though I suppose we'll never really know.
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>>91181103

Revans main appeal isn't just what he did, but that he's his own individual. In a sense, Revans strength is that he can be anyone. He won his fame by seeing tragedy and reacting as many would, but more strongly and with skill. His fall to the dark side was a reaction to a threat that many might also fall for. After he lost his memories he literally blended into the crowd and even though he relearned what he lost quickly, and was given undue independence and focus, his choices were just what many would make in their situation.

Revan isn't the chosen one. In a sense the entire philosophy of KOTOR is a rejection of the idea of there being a chosen one. He's literally more or less some guy who made it that far, with no destiny to guide him.
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>>91181103
because then all of their characteristics and accomplishments cease to be their own and become a tired cliche
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>>91181219
Isn't Vader already a clice though?
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>>91181174

To be fair to Alek, he was clearly a guy with his own shit going on at the time. Their relationship wasn't really an Anakin to Obi Wan one.

Though Obi Wans deal is that he was never as STRONG as Vader, from what I remember, just that he had skills and experience on his side. Obi Wan was the jedi who was around to train Anakin.
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>>91181174

Addendum: that said, being a good leader should not be underestimated.

Thrawn is quite possibly the most terrifying enemy the Ghost crew has ever faced -- and they've faced the Inquisitors, Maul, and even Darth Vader himself. While Thrawn is certainly a force to be reckoned with in hand-to-hand combat and definitely not bad with a blaster, none of this is why he's so intensely scary, and neither is his rather unnerving lazy eye. Thrawn is so scary precisely because he's a brilliant strategist and strong leader.
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>>91175689
Barriss because I want to bury my face in yellow boobies. Also, she was right.

We need one of those charts with Rebels waifus.
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>>91179292
what an original plot. it's definitely not something we have seen before in legends. wendig is so brilliant just like jj.
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>>91175689

Ahsoka.

Divine orange buttcheeks.

Not insane, overcommitted, or too old.
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>>91175689
I'd probably go with Ventress.
I have a fetish for both bald girls and dominatrices.
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Anybody have a webm or a gif of Tarkin ordering to fire on scarif or alderan?
I need it for...reasons
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>Marvel switches from Digital Editions to Digital "Content"
>it's issues of books I don't give a shit about from Marvel's capeshit

What the fuck?

Trying to decide whether to switch to physical-only or digital-only. I'm not going to buy issues twice. Digital would be more convenient and take up less space, but physical reads better and supports local comics stores.

What do?
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>>91183524
Ventress probably enjoys wearing a gag and being used by Master more than the other way around
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>>91175554
Authentic, you say? I know all about authenticity!
t. JJ
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>>91183804
>but physical reads better and supports local comics stores
I'd go with that. It's always better to support your local comic book stores. I live on an island where there is no comic book stores so I'll just wait for the trade .
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>>91175554

Hey /co/ help me choose what SW book to read next.

The ones I haven't read from the Disney canon are:

Adventures In Wild Space series
Aftermath: Life Debt (and Empire's End)
Battlefront - Twilight Company
Bloodline
Before the Awakening
Tales From a Galaxy Far, Far Away - Volume I - Aliens
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>>91184160
Read Bloodline. It's really good
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>>91184160
Bloodline
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>StarWars.com: What can we expect from the Vader/Palpatine relationship? At this point, they’ve had one real bit of conflict: Palpatine telling Vader that he had killed Padmé in his anger, which Vader didn’t quite believe. Is any of that father-son dynamic, even if it was phony on Palpatine’s side, still left?

>Charles Soule: Absolutely, and I honestly don’t think it’s phony. That’s sort of the key to Palpatine and Anakin, in my mind. Palpatine does have an attachment to this guy. He’s a tool, and if he screws up I think the Emperor would discard him, but that’s not what he wants. He wants Vader to succeed, not just to further the goals of the Empire, but for his own sake. Vader and Palpatine are connected by true emotion, even if it’s twisted and dark. Palpatine is the only father Anakin ever knew, and just because their relationship has…evolved, let’s say…it doesn’t mean the core is gone. Fascinating dynamic to write — and we get a bunch of it in the series.

I was originally going to say I like the idea that even if Palpatine is this utterly power hungry narcissistic vile figure I like the idea he and Vader has some sort of weird attachment to one another, I eventually got to thinking that like Vader must be Palpatine's favourite tool. From there, I imagined Palpatine going into a toolbox, and along side a hammer and screwdriver and some pliers is a Darth Vader figure that he calls his favourite.
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>>91184405
What would've happened if Vader didnt die after palps was tossed into the shaft?
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>>91180904
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>>91184453
>Luke... Help me take this mask off.
>But you'll die
>That is a good point. Help me find a mask that's easier to see out of later.
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>>91184498
>And a less evil sounding voice filter. This one is really wizard but I don't know if keeping it is appropriate.
>Incidentally, who is your sister, anyhow?
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>>91184498
He was dying anyway, keeping the mask on wouldn't have saved him.
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>>91184540
Yeah but the question was "what if Vader didn't die?"
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>>91184546
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>>91184453
He would get a fair trial and a death sentence, just like Kallus in Season 4.
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>>91184565
>He would get a fair trial and a death sentence, just like Kallus in Season 4.
Madine didn't, and neither did Wedge, or any other defector. But yeah, Vader probably would be tried and sentenced to execution, only to be kept alive in secret and used to solve extreme situaions.
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>>91184565
I'd love to see people try to put him on trial and execute him.

>Darth Vader, you are accused of committing... many counts of... many crimes. How do you plead?
>I do not plead.
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>>91180943
I don't think Revan's force power was ever really commented on, his main strenghts were charisma and intelligence, he was probably strong, but Vader is Force Jesus, and George also said at one point that Luke was supposed to be the strongerst in the Force, so
Vader>=Luke>anyone else
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>>91184565
>not wanting vader to get his augmetics swapped for much less terrifying ones and go full jedi master who was in hiding, teaching the younglings like a giant terrifying robo-wizard
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>>91184585
>Madine didn't, and neither did Wedge, or any other defector. But yeah, Vader probably would be tried and sentenced to execution, only to be kept alive in secret and used to solve extreme situaions.
They also weren't war criminals like Kallus and Vader.
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>>91184616
I'd imagine that Vader would be the one to go to Ach-to. It's rather like everything Tattooine is not. Or maybe he would spend all his time on Tattooine as some sort of penance? Or maybe neither and would try to remain somewhat close to Luke and/or Leia at all times?
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>>91183912
I don't see a problem with this.
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>>91183879
It takes a certain kind of gentleman to do that though.
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>>91176155
>8/9 - They don't really try to redeem Ben, he has helped commit multi planet genocide and killed his noble dad, it's done.

Why did they even try redeeming Anakin then
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>>91184891
It wasn't treated seriously like today and had more of a fairy tale structure.
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>>91176123
A Delphidian showed up in Rogue One.
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>>91184160
Dont go within a hundred parsecs of aftermath
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>>91185050

damn that's pretty cool.
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>>91175689
Shaak Ti, but only if it's the Genndy Wars version
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>>91184636
What war crimes did Kallus commit?
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>>91184636
>war criminal
If we are talking war crimes, Hera, and probably also Kanan and Zeb should also be tried for using child soldiers.
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>By blowing up the Death Star Luke killed more people than Vader personally did in his whole life.
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Why are all Siths such Edge Lords?
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>>91185596
Why are all female Dark Side users so hot?
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>>91185596
>gain power from how much someone's scared of them
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>>91185622
>female Dark Side users
>hot
The only canon female dark side user looks like unmasked Vader.
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>>91185622
Or cute
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>>91185657
>The only canon female dark side user looks like unmasked Vader.
>The only canon female dark side use

>what is ventress
>what is /ss/
>what is Barriss
>what is corrupted Ahsoka
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>>91184591
>>I do not plead.
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>>91185670
>Barriss
>Dark Side
Wew lad
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>>91185497
Lasatan Genocide don't real!

Clean ISB!

Just following orders!
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>>91185699

How did Yoda felt when he disovered that they were indeed working for the dark side?
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>>91185699
>Those belong to Ventress
>I think they suit me
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>>91185699
>literally terrorist
>light side
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>>91180943
Revans obi-wan teir combatent not as if that was a low standared but also a Thrawn teir leader and manipulator playing the long game. That was always his real power being a chrasmatic machavellian fuck.

Weaker than sheev or Yoda but a better acting general and just genrally a guy you'd want to follow.
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What if Kylo Revan?
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>>91185699
she literally says it
watch TCW you fag
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Is Wedge a teenager in Rebels?
Is he a teenager in ANH?
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>>91186003
>Is Wedge a teenager in Rebels?
Yes

>Is he a teenager in ANH?
No, I was under the impression that he is a year or so older than Luke

Someone feel free to prove me wrong
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>>91185926
>Kylo is the light side of Revan's reincarnation, hence his constant unbearable "pull to the light"
>Rey will be revealed to be Revan's dark side
>Once Episode 8 reveals this, they'll announce a Revan animated movie by Filoni that will give his new canon backstory and lore, and explain how Sith alchemy split Revan's soul to be reincarnated in the future.

Y/N?
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>>91185303
Now that's a pristine waifu
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>>91186065
So, what's the timeline then? I thought, that S3 is within a year or two from ANH. How did Wedge grow up so fast?
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>>91186088
Aye.
That's some TOR level of retardness but it's still better than no Revan at all
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>>91186088
0/10 sounds fucking retarded

why does everything have to be revan? Reincarnation is a stupid idea.
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>>91186088
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>>91186088
Sounds like a shitty fanfic, like all of Rebels and TCW.
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>>91186088
that won't happen because it's too convoluted for normies but omg that'd be hype
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>>91186102
You are correct about the timeline, I guess Wedge is just younger in ANH than we think
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>>91186120
Why would you say something so stupid? For what purpose?
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>>91186139
Because it's true. Truth cannot be stopped.
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>>91186088
You have to be 18 to post here
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>>91186162
>Hey comics and cartoons fans!
>You know those Star Wars comics and cartoons?
>You know, those 170~ episodes produced by Lucasfilm, most of which were overseen and created by George Lucas himself?
>They're shitty fanfics, teehee!! XD
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>>91186188
Yeah, pretty much.
Does it make you uncomfortable?
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>>91185699
>bombing the Jedi temple out of frustration
>doing something evil out of anger
>not Dark Side
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>>91186214
No, your nonsense got a slight chuckle out of me m8, hope you enjoyed the (you)'s
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>>91186214
good one
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>>91186247
I'd love this
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>TLJ won't feature Rey going to the darkside after finding out that Luke Skywalker, savior of the galaxy, is her father and abandoned her on Jakku
>force ghost Anakin will never come to Kylo Ren and tell him it's never too late to return to the light, but Kylo can't talk back to him since he's darkside
>Snoke will never tell Rey to kill Kylo Ren to show her loyalty to him
>Luke will never come in and duel Rey and save a redemeed Ben Solo
>TLJ won't end with Ben, in Jedi robes, going into a ship with Luke to find the lost apprentice of Anakin Skywalker

just deleted this because I fucked up the formatting
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>>91186088
That sounds so retarded that I can imagine it happening
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>>91177001
I think someone in his lineage stacked poles for a living.
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How would Filoni handle the characters of the ST?
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>>91186214
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>>91186325
Better
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>>91184467
Yep.
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Why do we not have a crying Ezra Wojak?
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>>91186231
>>91186232
>>91186326
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>>91186325
Rey would probably be around the levels of ANH Luke
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>>91186325
Much closer to how Lucas would have handled TFA

Hopefully Lucasfilm will try and steer things back to Lucas's intent with 8/9
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>>91186417
I wish we got to see Lucas' sequel trilogy
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>>91186120
more like everything not made by George Lucas
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>>91186417
>>91186451
>prequelst were mostly shit becaue of Lucas's lack of talent
>want to see more of his "vision"
what's wrong with you, guys?
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>>91186501
Your bait wont work here.
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>>91186501
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>>91186325
I wanted to answer this question mathematically but I'm afraid I'm not that clever
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>>91186501
Here's your (you)
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I guess, having an opinion counts as bait now.
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>>91185714
He's very sorry about it, so it's ok.
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>>91186981
Lack of talent and vision are two different things. How is that an opinion?
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s-she'll be canon again, right bros!?
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>>91186981
/swco/ is just prequel circlejerk.
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>>91184560
>Grand Wizard Vader
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>>91187064
Hey, I fucking love prequels, but wanting more of the same quality of the films is just silly.
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>>91186981
>Im going to baselessly shit on thee movies, and their director, without a single point or reason
>WAHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHY CANT I HAVE MY OPMIONORIGHBNGHOT[JYKUIL
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>>91178978
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccN49ZhjGW8
Getting Sheeved
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>>91186088
Will never happen, simply because they will never ever make a EU character a big part of the main movies. Regardless of EU's popularity and percieved importance, the movies were, are and always will be the center around which the EU is built, and not the other way around.
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>>91179576
But is that just the Old Republic symbol or the Old Republic Jedi symbol?
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>>91187170
Most criticism of the prequels is usually disregarded here as quoting plinkett, or criticizing OT/TFA in response, as if something else being shit somehow justifies prequels being shit.
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>>91187200
>Will never happen, simply because they will never ever make a EU character a big part of the main movies.
>the movies were, are and always will be the center around which the EU is built, and not the other way around.
Wrong. The Skywalker Saga is the driving force of Star Wars, if you consider the main story of Star Wars to be following that family. But the world of Star Wars does not just stem from the main Saga.

You would think Rogue One would have got rid of this stupid misconception by now.

It would be no different that Saw Gurrera. Even less prevalent in the movie than Saw in fact.

Leaks already suggesting that Rey/Kylo are embodiment of the Light/Dark side of the Force, would be easy as fuck to handwave exposition about an ancient Sith. Would be less bullshit than what they did with Anakin's Lightsaber.
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>>91175689
K2-B4
Because it's easier to modify steel and electronic components than living tissue, meaning that you could add an on/off switch and other fun stuff.
Also voice acted by Ashley Eckstein.
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>>91187058
There's a possibility
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>>91187285
That's a lot of assumptions there anon. But to humor you;

>disregarded here as quoting plinkett
If this happens, then perhaps the answer is to not quote the ill-informed plinkett

>or criticizing OT/TFA in response
If this happens, then perhaps the answer is to not have hypocritical points, because they will be pointed out. You cant shit on one thing, but pretend like another is perfectly fine despite the same faults.

>as if something else being shit somehow justifies prequels being shit.
Nobody can stop you from saying stuff is shit, but the fact is, people come here because we like Star Wars, we're literally here, spending our free time, talking about Star Wars, because we love it that much.

Of course people are going to get upset when people come here to shit on stuff we like. Especially if criticisms are hypocritical or ill-inform shit parroted from youtubers. After years of it, it gets really fucking annoying.

So as someone who likes Star Wars, you should be able to appreciate that and think first before posting shit like >>91186501. What do you think can come from a post like that? Fucking applause? No, it's literally just constructed to piss people off, so what is the fucking point? There's no opinions in that post, not points or reasons, and nothing about such a topic is even worth discussing here anyways. It's the same old "I didn't like this, muh childhood, fuck you for liking it hurr" bullshit.

That post was made for one reason, and one reason only. To piss people off, and then claim "muh opinion tho" after.

There's plenty of discussion on the prequels here, legitimate discussion, that don't amount to bitching and shitflinging. Try that, it's more fun for everyone.
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> actually wanting Rey to be Lukes daughter

> actually wanting Like to be a deadbeat dad
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>>91187456
This tee bee aych
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>>91187285
>Most criticism of the prequels is usually disregarded here as quoting plinkett
That's because most of the criticism it gets comes from copying what fat meme men say.

>as if something else being shit somehow justifies prequels being shit
The hypocrisy is unreal. Nearly every single time someone criticises the prequels, they always bring up how good another film is or trash the prequels while defending another film. You can't call a film shit just because of a flaw but claim another film is a masterpiece when it has the same flaw.
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Watch out for that vicious bounty hunter Boba Fett, Luke. Did I ever tell you I fought his dad? He was hired to assassinate a senator me and your father were guarding. We kept bringing her around open windows and public areas in order to draw the would-be assassin out because we knew he had too much pride to just shoot her from long range. He had used his payment to hire another bounty hunter to kill the senator for him while he sent us on a wild bantha chase. Also the 2nd assassin used her payment to buy a robot to assassinate the senator for her. Did I mention the 2nd assassin was a shapeshifter? She could have been a good friend in disguise and just shot the senator for all we knew! Then the robot used its payment to buy poisonous bugs to release into the senator's room while she slept after lasering a hole through the window. It could have just lasered her too after that because we we weren't watching her at all, but it already bought the bugs. So we sense the hostile life forms (not the robot) in the room and rush in and save the senator in the nick of time! Then I jumped out the window to chase the robot back to its owner! Luckily it didn't have a self-destruct function. Then we found the 2nd assassin and chased her across the planet, and caught her when she tried to kill us instead of shapeshifting and escaping. But to our surprise, Jango Fett was watching the whole thing instead of going to kill the senator while we were away chasing the bugs chasing the robot chasing the shapeshifter. He shot her with a poisonous dart instead of sniper blaster, and only her instead of shooting all of us or blowing all of us with a rocket or something, then he escaped with his tiny jetpack. Luckily for the senator, my good friend Dexterr Jettster owned a 50s dinner on Courscant that had Republic secrets on the menu along with cheeseburgers and malt shakes. We found the assassin and Mace Window killed him later, right in front of Boba. And he was a good friend.
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>>91187517
Yes, you told everyone last thread, and the thread before that.
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>>91187456
I want Reylo
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>>91187517
A good friend telling a nice story
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I'll never get how the good friend was memed this hard.
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I want to be good friends with KENOBIARHGAHGAHGH
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>>91187636
Attack of the Clones sucked cock
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>>91187456
I want a reversal of the Bespin scene, where Luke tells Kylo he's his father. Luke was trying to fulfill his promise to Yoda in remaking the Jedi order, and he gave Ben to Leia in an attempt to sever his attachments

I know, it's incredibly stupid. I just want to see Luke doing the "I am your father!" bit.
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>>91187691
>I know, it's incredibly stupid. I just want to see Luke doing the "I am your father!" bit.

Good god, kys

if anything it'll be Luke saying "I am not your father" for pottery but yours is too fucking far
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>>91187691
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snF-FqfJna4
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I just get a kick out of this sort of stuff. Random background elements that don't matter to the plot but just flesh out the world.
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>>91187783
So, when they blew up Space Jerusalem, who were the Imperials supposed to be, Space Catholics or Space Muslims?
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>>91187783
That's cute anon
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Tfw Vader constantly called Luke son

Tfw Luke constantly called Vader father

Tfw upon Vader suggesting Luke's sister be exploited towards the Dark Side, Luke in his fear and budding anger could no longer reconcile Vader as his lost father Anakin in that moment of lashing out, because what kind of father would tempt his own children to evil

Tfw it was in that blind moment of rage and frustration that Luke finally saw Vader as Obi-Wan and Yoda did
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So apparently a lot of TLJ takes place on a futuristic high-class luxury planet with Prequel designs, how do we feel about this
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>>91187863
we feel good if it's true but we don't trust leaks
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>>91187863
I want it
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>>91187887
space tuxedo pictures have been shown for a long time now
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>>91187783

Oh neat! I like those long legged things
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>>91187783
Do those things they're riding on have names?
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Another background thing
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>>91187980
C A N O N
A
N
O
N
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>>91187517
>then he escaped with his tiny jetpack
Every time
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>>91186112
>better than no Revan at all
>mentions SWTOR in the same post
>the game where you kill Revan's Force Ghost on a side quest to steal his pants
I can safely say that never seeing Revan in canon is better than having him appear in something so bad it makes JJ Abrams look good
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>>91187980
weren't the exact same type of figures in and around the jedi temple in the prequels
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>>91188219
>the game where you kill Revan's Force Ghost on a side quest to steal his pants
you must be joking
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>>91188240
Spread throughout the Temple, yeah
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>>91188360
I am absolutely not joking, Revan gets a short cameo appearance in an unimportant side story that winds up being little more than a fetch quest. You then attack Revan's force ghost, drain it's HP, then loot the corpse for a clothing reward.
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>>91188403
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>>91188403
I know those various action pose ones, but I thought there were hooded faceless types holding lightsabers up defensively as well
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You fight him twice. Once he goes bonkers and builds a robot army, then he's split in two good and evil sides and you reunite them by beating the fuck out of them. He fucks off to the afterlife then.
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>>91188433
Oh I was probably thinking of those bas-reliefs
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>>91188442
I
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>>91188433
Fun fact those are the 4 Jedi who formed the Coruscant temple. Two warriors and two warlocks met on a mountain rich in kyber crystals that had turned into a sort of Mecca for force users and decided to build a Jedi temple there.

Source: Complete Locations
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>>91188433
>>91188509
Should have been more specific. I meant the Jedi that are on the walls, not the statues.
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>>91177560
I know, I'm ordering off the menu.
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>>91188661
but In-n-Out's secret menu only consists of good characters
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>>91187599
Same
I think there's more to explore in Rey and Kylo Ren's relationship if they're not related
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245th for Kanan X Kallus X Zeb threesome canon
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>>91188917
But what about Ezra?
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247th for best ship
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>Sabine off the crew
>Hera for Kanan only

>now 4/5 are guys

why would you watch this homo show
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>>91188710
>in-and-out

Haw!

Also you trying to dissect Seventh Sister? Maul, that you?
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people on leddit already have the thrawn book
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Wish him a happy birthday, /swco/.
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>>91188944
Skybridger will be canon in Episode 8.
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YOOOOOOOO

dispray was honobru to max
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>>91189170
Happy birthyday obi 1
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>>91189170
Happy Birthday, General Kenobi.
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IS THAT BLOOD??

IN MY KIDS SHOW!?
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>>91189551
ANON
YOU'VE DOOMED THEM
THIS WILL GET REBELS CANCELED
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>>91189170
Happy birthday you Scottish arsehole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5eiEY2pmVw
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>>91187980
It's like they had art assets that could be used for other projects
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>>91182324
This guy gets it.
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>>91189669
>anakin never had steamy taboo sex with this
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>>91189779
How do you know?
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>>91189795
The question that launched a thousand schlick-fics.
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>>91189779

Had he not be married to Padme... he would definately have fucked Ahsoka and the Republic would be still standing today, due to the force of delicious orange butt cheeks.
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>>91190019
So what you're saying is that padme is still worst girl in the entire galaxy, as we've known since 1999?
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>>91190062

Almost 20 years and still worst girl. She's the sole reason Anakin fell to the arms of Sheevs.

(The Jedi council expeling his padawan fro the order has nothing to do with it)
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>>91187517
Luke, have I ever told you about reproduction? Reproduction was the biological process in which a new life form could be created from "parent" lifeforms. For humans, that process was the result of a sexual union between a male and a female, resulting in the female becoming pregnant and giving birth to children. Senator Padmé Amidala of Naboo became pregnant during the Clone Wars, with Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker as the father. Her pregnancy resulted in the birth of twins, Luke Skywalker and Leia Organa. By the time of the Clone Wars, it is believed that the human women of Coruscant no longer carried or delivered their own progeny and chose to hire others to do it for them. However, during his imprisonment and subsequent questioning on Vallt, Galen Erso disputes this, suggesting it may either be a myth or simply an exclusive practice of the Coruscanti elite. Some species, like the Tibidees of Stygeon Prime, would call out to the opposite sex in order to find a partner. That process was referred to as a "mating call." Reproduction could also be replicated via cloning, a process in which the DNA of one life form could be copied to produce genetically identical individuals. Prior to the Invasion of Naboo, the Kaminoans cloned bounty hunter Jango Fett, resulting in the eventual creation of the Grand Army of the Republic. Satine was a good friend.
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>>91190107
They also passed him over for a promotion.
>>91189054
Then post the link.
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>>91190258
it's not hard to find

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/62ko36/i_already_got_the_thrawn_novel_in_holland/?st=j0y3rl6o&sh=79ff6332
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this can't be fucking real
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>>91190107
Without Panda Bear, I could see Anakin responding to that by leaving the Order, too. Jedi would not have taken that well.

Hell, there's your fic. Pugnaccio gets killed, what happens.
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>>91190297
>https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/62ko36/i_already_got_the_thrawn_novel_in_holland/?st=j0y3rl6o&sh=79ff6332
Eh, I thought there's a link for download or something.
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>>91190347
oh HELL YEAH
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>>91190347

And those blades spin.
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>>91190367
I would post happy Ahsoka not angry Aphra if there was a download link there.
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>>91190347
>fan art quality
>a signature style that no professional concept artist will ever do
>dynamic pose
>fan site source
Gee, I don't know
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>>91190420
>mmm-m-m-msw isn't reliable they just spoiled Han dying in a snowy forest world years ahead of time
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>>91190469
don't you mean 30 years late
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>>91190420
noone claims this is a concept art, m8, the author supposedly drew it based on notes of a guy who saw the retardtrooper
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kylo with a vader cape
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>>91190512
I hope it's not actually Vader's fucking cape.
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>>91190349

That's some cryptic language you got there my friend
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>TFA is too unoriginal
>ok we'll make them all have melee weapons and flamethrowers

>no give then guns they miss with again!!! stop!!
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>>91190547
Vader probably had more than one cape, in all honesty.
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>>91188971
>Sabine off the crew.

We're going to be in Mandalore for like half of Season 4, anon. Once she saves her daddy, have him and Ursa approve of her sub, she's gonna chuck the Darksaber in Bo Katan's face go off with the rebels again.
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What do you think of the Dannan tactic and Thrawn's counter to it, folks?

https://twitter.com/HGilroy67/status/847643715334160389
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>>91190634
>Kylo bought the cape from someone who claimed it was Vader's

>>91190657
>she's gonna chuck the Darksaber in Bo Katan's face

Ow
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>>91190718
I think Star Wars needs to show Rebel capital ships actually engaging enemies instead of floating around waiting to be destroyed by Imperial turbolasers while the fighters get all the action
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>>91190619
>TFA is too unoriginal
>ok we will give the First Order use XVII century sailing ships
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>>91190754
>destroyed by Imperial turbolasers
lol
you mean TIE fighters?
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>>91190754
I feel like they had put all of their energy into shields so that they could protect their Y-Wings. The Y-Wings were meant to disable the ships with their Ion weapons so that they could escape. Trying to fire back would have made their hulls break so much quicker and their fighters wouldn't have any protection to maneuver around.
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>>91190718
>tactic

>go slowly ahead and don't shoot
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>>91189054

ePub when?
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>>91190814
but the don't have shields, they are getting massacred by TIEs
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>>91190817
>>91190814

Go ahead and put everything in shields in order to block for your fighters, actually.

An interesting, very aggressive tactic. It was basically intent on drawing ships out of position, which thanks to Konstantine's idiocy it actually worked.
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>>91190789
TIE fighters destroyed a couple of the smaller boats, but the Nebulon frigates (in both RO and Rebels) and the MC75 (RO alone) go down to Star Destroyers.

>>91190814
I know that I'm talking more about Rogue One than Rebels though I would like to have seen the guns modeled on those ships actually USED, or at least little laser bolts fired out of random parts of their superstructure like in the original trilogy
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>>91190843
They would have died quicker if they were just dog-fighting them in open space.

The Rebels were outmatched in literally every way. Trying to shoot at the Star Destroyers would have just allowed the Empire to destroy the ships all the quicker and mop up any resistance.

But by playing defensively and charging the blockade they were able to buy some time for their fighters to poke around and look for an opening.
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>>91190852
>An interesting, very aggressive tactic. It was basically intent on drawing ships out of position, which thanks to Konstantine's idiocy it actually worked.

no it didn't
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>>91190883
Fair enough. Hopefully we will see that. I'm just trying to give a canonical reason as to why there wasn't much of that during the fight over Atollon.
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>>91190893
Ezra escaped, so yes, it did.

It was always going to be a defeat for the Rebels. What matters is that it wasn't a total defeat, since they were able to get an opening for Ezra and ultimately escape capture.
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>>91190907
I know that there are tons of reasons both in universe and in real life that it wasn't done, but I really wish we could actually see some real capship on capship combat that isn't a one-sided plot point. We've had tons of opportunity but it's simply never been done outside of TCW or ROTS and that's such a damn shame. Not that I dislike that which we have seen, the clone wars era battles between Venators and Arquitens and Consulars against Munificents and Recusants and Providences is great, but I really want to see the motley assortment of Rebel vessels slug it out with the Imperial arrowheads in the Galactic Civil War.
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>>91190754
This
There needs to be less fighter action in Star Wars.
We need more broadside action like in ROTS
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I really shouldn't, but i still feel like Snoke is gonna be Plagueis
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>>91191044
We're in the minority man, that ROTS stuff is always overlooked
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>>91191081
I unironically hate this.

It screams "hey, they liked that one fight in TFA, lets do it again!"
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>>91191044
there should be exactly as much fighter action as there is, not less, space battle action is not a zero sum game and we can still have big ships fighting
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>>91188219
>>91188360

Why lie about something you clearly never played? I mean he has his own expansion pack called shadow of revan for fucks sake. Prior to that he was a main character in a series of flashpoints. The sheeple in this thread make me sick. I mean you all pretend to see the light because you like the prequels but then turn around and reapeat meme opinions like this "swtor is cancer" bullshit. You should all be ashamed.
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Which of these is the least shit? Read everything else and saving Aftermath for last.

Ahsoka
Battlefront: Twilight Company
Dark Disciple
Heir to the Jedi
A New Dawn
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>>91191112
did anyone actually like that fight?

I assumed it was memed so hard because of how retarded it was, kinda like "I don't like sand"
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>>91191082
who else has the possibility of living up to the big, empty boots left by Sheev? I mean, its never going to be remotely as interesting a character no matter who it is, but if plagueis did manage to trick palps into believing his death then that's pretty impressive. With Disney's thinking, the only way their new villain won't be a disappointment is if it's at least as big and bad as the original, preferably bigger and badder-just look at their death star^2
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>>91191112
melee troopers is genuinely more interesting than ot rehashes buddy
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>>91188417
No your not joking your just making shit up.
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>>91191177
SWTOR IS cancer though, what the fuck are you on? How are you even defending that trainwreck?
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>>91191081
Great, we're going to be seeing more normie TRAITOR!!!!! memes again, aren't we?
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>>91191209
I hated the fight honestly, it was cringey

>>91191221
I don't want OT rehashes either though
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>>91176123
Rathtars in the Darth Maul comics
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>>91191190

Ahsoka is not shitty, it's just irrelevant.
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>>91191241
>everytime I see someone reference that shit, I correct them and explain that his name was "Nines", and give them a brief summary of his story and recommend they read the book.
>They awkwardly change the subject

I hate normies
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>>91191221
no, meele troopers are fucking retarded

TFA wasn't a lazy copy because it had people shoot guns, fuckwit
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>>91191209
>>91191246
>trooper that doesn't job like a moron and competently duels the protagonist with an interesting scifi weapon

>LOL WTF NORMIES ARE SO DUMB HOW COULD ANYONE LIKE THIS

can you guys listen to yourselves
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>>91191081
I don't hate that armor desu.

You could call them the new Domino squad.
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>>91191292
>interesting scifi weapon
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>>91191292
they hate it because some Forceless sidekick who doesn't know what to do with a lightsaber gets into a melee fight with a stormtrooper with a fucking riot shield and baton instead of a gun like every other soldier in scifi that isn't from Warhammer 40k
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>>91191217
Thing is, even though I've never been into EU stuff, i want Snoke to be Plagueis as it would link the big bad guy to the rest. I just don't really like the idea that nu-Emperor is just a new character coming out of nowhere, i want him to be at least linked to some character/event we know of.

But apparently they kept saying he wasn't Plagueis (Pablo said it numerous times on Twitter) and that he was indeed a fresh new character, but i've learned not to trust these kind of statements so i really don't know
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>>91191325
>dat helmet design
More like the Donald Squad

Sorry, anon. It just popped in there. No offense intended.
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>>91191190

A New Dawn is EXCELLENT. My favorite book of the new canon. John Jackson Miller's style is really fun to read and his pacing is great.
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>>91191349
>>91191217
>>91191082
how many times have Pablo and company gone on record as saying Snoke definitely isn't Plagueis

do you really think they're doing it with a sly wink of plausible deniability or that they're really annoyed by the inanity and incessancy of the terrible theorycrafting
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>>91191343
> doesn't like 40k

retard alert

>>91191340
nice argument
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plagueis will be snokes apprentice/brother
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>>91191349
I've always said that Snoke as Plagueis could be neat, but only if, in addition to that, we accept the theory that Snoke, with Sheev's help, created the Skywalker bloodline. Then you've got the Skywalkers confronting their maker, which is a neat story and a way to link all three trilogies together.

But if Plagueis didn't make the Skywalkers, there's no real thematic reason for him to be Snoke.
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>>91191431
>never said I didn't like 40k
strawman

Star Wars isn't 40k, it's the reason nobody likes the fucking Vong

and can you kindly explain how a giant ipod cattle prod is an interesting weapon
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>>91191230
I'm not defending it everyone is entitled to an informed opinion. I'm calling you out on your falsehoods since your that faggot who takes it upon himself to misinform people when something that triggers yiu is brought up.
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>>91191492
I wasn't the guy who posted about the Revan ghost, im just saying TOR is shit in general
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>>91191349
I'm in agreement, i would prefer plagueis rather than some bendu-esque ancient force wielder who has never been heard from before. As far as the identity, well, snoke's head is a really short and wide compared to most depictions we've seen of Muun in TCW and comics, but the fact that a Muun hasnt appeared in a movie yet, as well as how they recycled the plagueis the wise track from ROTS for him makes me think its likely. Maybe his face scar is from where palps thought he offed him.
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I love how Pablo is presumptuous enough to think that he has a story more interesting than Snoke being Plagueis

because if he's anyone else it's going to be garbage and Lucasfilm blows
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>>91191492
What falsehood? Revan gets a bit part in a shitty game, gets killed by the player, and you get a loot drop from him. This isn't really arguable.
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>>91191646
Here's a list of the rewards you get from killing him btw:

Revan Mercenary Medic's Foundry Belt Heavy Armor Waist Normal
Revan Adept Sorcerer's Foundry Lower Robe Light Armor Legs Normal
Revan Juggernaut's Foundry Belt Heavy Armor Waist Normal
Revan Mercenary's Foundry Helmet Heavy Armor Head Normal
Revan Unwavering Juggernaut's Foundry Greaves Heavy Armor Legs Normal
Revan Sniper's Foundry Boots Medium Armor Feet Normal
Revan Agile Assassin's Foundry Boots Light Armor Feet Normal
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>>91191524
Anon what the fuck are you smoking?

Firstly, it wasn't entirely Pablo's decision. Depending on how closely they're following Lucas's ideas, Snoke's identity could have come from George himself.

We'll have to wait and see who Snoke is, who's idea it was, and if it works out or not. And thats regardless on whether he ends up being Plageuis or not.
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what if snoke is revan
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>>91183912
Ironic. His mouth is actually a device that others talk into. Like the artist of today's hectic blockbuster environment who must produce what others say. Profound, and sad.
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>>91191701
more likely and a better idea than plagueis

>>91191686
ignore him, it's EUfag bait
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>>91191701
what if snoke is a raven
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>>91191707
I think it's just a side effect of kitbashing. For example, IG88's head is an ice cream maker.
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>>91191701

what if Plagueis is Revan reincarnated, then as Plagueis he created the Skywalkers to make Sheevs rebuild the Sith empire and then died again to reicarnate in Snoke (Dark side), Rey (Light Side) and Kylo (Gray side)?
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>>91191701
Would be interesting to know what this canon's version of Revan got up to.

Before TOR came out, I always assumed that in the aftermath of KOTOR 1, once Revan got wind of the True Sith, he went to find them, and stopped them by essentially taking them over. I assumed he deposed their leader and, from his new position of authority, scuttled their invasion plans.

It's about the only plan I could think of that made sense of him going into the Unknown Regions entirely by himself.
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>>91191769
Oh wait a minute I'm wrong about that, it's part of a Rolls-Royce Derwent aircraft engine, not an ice cream maker. Same philosophy still applies.
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>>91191190
If i were to rank them, top is best
A New Dawn
Ahsoka
Twilight Company
Heir to the jedi
Dark Disciple

Have you read Lords of the Sith or Tarkin yet? Good stuff there
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>>91190883
>about Rogue One though I would like to have seen the guns modeled on those ships actually USED,
We did
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>>91191779
Revan is the key to all of this
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>>91190347
>>91191081
>Finn hits the non-electrified part again
>It still blocks the lightsaber
You just know.
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>>91190754
They can't, though. It's long been established that Alliance vessels cannot engage Star Destroyers in direct combat. At close range they're even worse. Snubfighters are the most important resource for the Rebels whereas Star Destroyers are for the Empire. TIE swarm tactics exemplify this
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>>91176123
Hopefully none because the Force Awakens species were not good. They look like what you would get if Pan's Labyrinth was a G-rated fantasy film by Jim Henson.

I guess bb8 has an alright design (although the fact that there's apparently only one bb8 unit in the entire universe is fucktarded), and I think some of the species and droids looked acceptable. None of them stood out to me as impactful contributions to the univers, though.

Rogue One didn't really have any new species or droids, besides the terrorist guys (who I thought were great) and the Imperial droids (also great). Hell, the prequels gave us a lot of great additions, like the Geonosians, the entirety of the droid army, the Kaminoans, the Mustafarians, the PK droids, Plo Kloon (whatever he is), the sea monsters of Naboo and Darth Maul's species.

Granted, the prequels also gave us a lot of shitty creatures, but hey, at least they tried. The almost entirely human focus in the Disney films is rubbing me the wrong way. I mean, why bother making so many unique and iconic species if they're just going to disappear after their introductory scene?
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>>91191863
only the ISDs, and primarily just Vader's Devastator. The MC75 Profundity has numerous visible turrets and broadside cannons that are never used. The Nebulon B frigate has at least two dual turrets that are never used. The CR90 corvette has numerous turrets that are never used. The Hammerhead corvette has numerous turrets that are never used. The Dornean gunship has several turrets and there is a very brief, blink and you miss it, split-second frame where you DO see their bottom turret firing once at an unseen object. The GR75 transport model is not yet visibly confirmed to have any weapons on it at all, but I cannot be sure about that one. The VCX100 Ghost does appear and does shoot down TIEs, but like the Falcon it's just a plus size hero fighter. We don't even get to see Y-wings use their laser or ion cannons, just their torpedo chutes. It's all X-wing vs TIE fighter.
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>>91191915
Except for that whole Battle of Endor thing, but sure, let's go with your headcanon.
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>>91191935
>the entirety of the droid army,

LOL
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>>91192033
They had no choice in that instance, and would have been slaughtered had the Death Star shields not gone down.
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>>91192092
Excellent usage of the moving the goalposts fallacy, I'll have to try it next time.
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>>91192033
It's not a fucking headcanon, Ackbar said this himself. The only reason Lando ordered the fleet to engage the Star Destroyers was to lesson the probability of their being helplessly picked off by the Death Star.
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>>91192092
But after and before destroying the Death Star they still had a fuckload of ISDs to deal with.
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>>91192061
DELET
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>>91191915
>>91192136
But in Rogue One they had a Mon Cal cruiser versus 2 star destroyers and the cruiser held its own during the battle (it was presumably firing some of the random laser blasts we see in the battle though we don't actually see where they come from) and it was only after Vader came in for a surprise attack that it got fucked up when it's shields were almost drained.
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>>91192308
The art makes me sad
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>>91191462
I like your theory, I'm going to adapt it to mine.

>Plagueis felt a "great power" in the unknown regions and felt it create life (Anakin), this is the real reason Sheev kills him.
>unbeknownst to Sheev, Snoke creates the Skywalker bloodline starting with Anakin.
>Sheev did not have the ability to feel this "great power" until well into his reign after a decade of collecting sith relics and knowledge and further mastering his abilities.
>Sheev begins giving the Moffs more direct control over their territories in order to decentralize the government so he can focus on finding this "great power".
>the rebellion scores a major victory and gains support, which causes the Empire to do divert massive amounts of resources to the war effort, hindering Sheev's plan to find this "great power".
>Vader has a vague idea that Sheev is looking for something powerful, which after two decades of loyalty leads him to pursue his son Luke and propose over throwing Sheev. Vader is scared for the first time.
>The foreseen impending rebel attack on the unfinished Dearh Star II is a major setback for Sheev. He was close to finding Snoke.
>Sheev had data and plans stored throughout the galaxy, those of which were in rebel held territories were destroyed by "Operation Cinder" (I believe) after his death.
>Vader although playing loyal to Sheev, eventually betrays him and kills him, inadvertently killing himself in the process, too weak to warn Luke of Sheev's discoveries, Vader simply tells Luke that's "you were right" and dies.
>Admiral Sloane and other high imperials carry on the war effort and discover some of Sheev's data regarding Snoke, after Jakku they set out to find him in the Unknown regions.
>Snoke finds these willing imperials to be worthy and loyal servants, using them to find the Slywalker bloodline that he had created yet had let the will of the Force guide its destiny while he lurked in the shadows of the Unkown regions.
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I just realized something

Sheev hearing calls from the unkown is kind of the same as when Yoda had his whole ordeal during the clone wars
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>>91192839
Cha chiiiinnnnggg
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>>91192839
>>91192889
could that mean that the "caller" is some sort of half-forceghost since Yoda first was contacted by qui-gon
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>talking to a guy
>'well in the extended universe it's explained that-'
>'but that's not canon anymore

this guy lost his fucking shit and said that TFA was a true return to the series' roots. And that Rey was just as good as luke. I told him that TFA was a carbon copy of ANH and I asked him what each character was like, and he says 'b-but ANH is just as bad!! you don't know anything about the characters' I couldn't tell if he was baiting. Help.
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>>91192955
Nucanon has showed that there are various religions regarding the Force, it's possible some third-party entity (perhaps Snoke himself) is purposely or inadvertently making his presence known.
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>>91193036
>talking to a guy
Your first mistake
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What if Snoke is doing a Wizard of Oz thing where he is not Force sensitive but was just pulling off an elaborate ruse?
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>>91193036
>this guy lost his fucking shit and said that TFA was a true return to the series' roots
You're not going to talk to him anymore, are you anon?
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>>91193036
>t ANH is just as bad!! you don't know anything about the characters

Atleast their motivations are clear. The only one I could see was Kylo ren, and even then, it's a bit of a stretch.
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>>91193036
>'well in the extended universe it's explained that-'
>'but that's not canon anymore
What was he citing the EU for anyways?
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>>91193080
Then Filoni has already used that twist in a TCW arc, and it's going to come off as pretty lackluster to a lot of fans.
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>>91193104
I don't know if he was trying to impress me because I'm a chick, but he seriously sperged out

>>91193155
Eclipse-class dreadnaught
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>>91193122
>>91193104
>>91193036
Reddit pls go
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>>91193167
>Then Filoni has already used that twist in a TCW arc

When was that? I don't remember.
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>force messages that ONLY palpatine (NOT VADER NOT ANYBODY ELSE) can hear

>LOL ITS NOT PLAGUEIS

brilliant lucasfilm, brilliant
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>>91193215
Plagueis is dead and there's no afterlife for the Sith
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>>91177942
the fuck did I just read,
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>>91193238
This is bait
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>>91193238
>who is Bane
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>>91193209
Not an argument my duden
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>>91193209
>you're reddit if you dont agree with retarded TFA fanboys
'no'

>>91193211
The droid episodes with R2 and C3PO. During the arc, they are stranded on a planet that obeys a huge Wizard of Oz figure, until R2 reveals him to be a hologram created by some droids.
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>>91193267
>Argue with reddit

No please just leave
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>>91193259
An illusion, not real
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>>91193301
are you fucking kidding me
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>>91193259
Bane wasn't a ghost, just a specter imprint of his conscienceless left on his tomb that was manifested by the Force Priestesses.
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>>91190754
BUDGET IDIOT! !
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>>91193209
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oh great, so snoke is going to be some literally who who SOMEHOW knew about the emperor and was paging him directly while being in wild space

g fucking g lucas
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Guys I am starting a Pablo folder, can you please dump all images and screencaps relating to Pablo, including all his lore tweets
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Real talk though, what if Snoke is a character we've seen before?
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>>91193375
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>>91193375
>implying he isn't wrong
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>>91193395
I would bet money on him not being anyone we know.
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>>91191424
>>91191859
>>91191257
Good to know, looks like A New Dawn is the way forward and then Ahsoka

>>91191859
I've read both, finished Lords of the Sith earlier today. I was surprised to be rooting for all parties involved by the end there.
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>>91193451
>Pablo's favourite is ANH
>so is mine

neat
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>>91193395
He's actually that creepy fuck obiwan met on utapau
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As a Sith fag I don't mind them not being able to become force ghosts. Anakin doesn't count because he's Space Jesus.
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What if Snoke is a ghost that changes form based on who is talking to him to subliminally manipulate them? Hence why he has the vader scar when he talks to Kylo because we are seeing him from his POV
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>>91193320
The Priestesses literally said so themselves, or do you just not pay attention to anything? It was said in that episode that the path is not open to the Sith.

But you'll just call it stupid with an uninformed argument
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>>91193472
It was a good read. one of those ones I couldn't put down. I hope Thrawn is just as good if not better.
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>>91193375
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>>91193508
>ghost that changes form
Snoke is actually Smoke
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>>91193476
My favorite had always been RotJ as a kid with TESB as the least because it felt very hollow
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>>91193597
I could see why you like it. It was the first one I saw, and it's a lot of fun for me to watch. Everyones favourite is valid

unless it's 2 what the fuck are you doing if that's your favourite for an unironic reason
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>>91193630
Most people i know have a burning hatred for 1 that far outstrips their dislike of 2, but at least one had some redeeming factors
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>>91193375
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>>91193722
in other news china/india is stupid
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>>91193375
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>>91193366
>only contacting the most powerful force user in history
>how is this allowed, so unfair, dark side should be communism
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>>91193375
I've got some Pabs on me
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>>91193630
I love I. Like II. Love III. Like IV. Love V. Love VI.
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http://www.starwars.com/news/hayden-christensen-mark-hamill-and-more-honor-40-years-of-star-wars-at-celebration-orlando

>Star Wars turns 40 this year, and Lucasfilm is celebrating with an event that will be long remembered.

>On Thursday, April 13, Star Wars Celebration Orlando will feature “40 Years of Star Wars,” a special panel gathering Star Wars creators and stars from across the saga’s history. Although many galactic-sized surprises are still being saved for the event, Lucasfilm is excited to announce some new panelists that are among the biggest names in Star Wars.

>Hayden Christensen (Anakin Skywalker), star of Star Wars: Attack of the Clones and Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith, returns to Celebration for the first time since 2002. Christensen will also meet fans and sign autographs at the show.

>He joins an impressive list of Star Wars greats at the panel, including: Kathleen Kennedy (Lucasfilm president), Dave Filoni (executive producer, Star Wars Rebels), Mark Hamill (Luke Skywalker), Ian McDiarmid (the Emperor/Darth Sidious), Anthony Daniels (C-3PO), Peter Mayhew (Chewbacca), and Billy Dee Williams (Lando Calrissian).

>Never before have this many involved in bringing Star Wars to life — from the original trilogy to the prequels to the current Star Wars Rebels animated series — joined together in one place to discuss a galaxy far, far away. Plenty of surprises are in store so fans will not want to miss this very important kick-off to Celebration. Wristband details can be found on the official Celebration site.
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>>91193375
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>>91193967
>>Hayden Christensen (Anakin Skywalker), star of Star Wars: Attack of the Clones and Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith, returns to Celebration for the first time since 2002.

HMMM I WONDER WHY
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>>91187845
Space Sheevists
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>>91193967
>
>Hayden Christensen (Anakin Skywalker), star of Star Wars: Attack of the Clones and Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith, returns to Celebration for the first time since 2002. Christensen will also meet fans and sign autographs at the show.

yes ye sye sye YE SY EYS EYSEFGRTHYJ
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>>91193682
I feel like the consensus on 2 being the absolute worst is very recent. Back when the prequels were new pretty much everyone I knew was calling 1 the worst hands down.
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>>91193967
Holy fuck, Annie ghost comfirmed, I love Lucasfilm!
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>>91193967
I really hope he doesn't get booed/ridiculed. Hayden gets such a bad rap and deserves more love from fans. He also seems like a genuinely nice guy irl.
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>>91191915
>>91192033
>>91192249

>using Rogue One as canon

Nice bait. At Endor the Imperial fleet was considerably outnumbered and Ackbar himself says they can't survive against Star Destroyers. Two of the 5(?) SDs the Empire lost there were due to the Mon Cal cruisers literally suicide ramming them because the cruisers were getting their asses destroyed in open combat.
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>>91186451
it was literally just about pirates, like the main villains were space pirates with no relation to the OT at all. I honestly think Disney didn't use his ideas because they were boring ideas that weren't fleshed out at all since Lucas never intended to make a sequel trilogy (at least not in recent years). If anything what they went with is closer to his original ideas for Episodes 7-9, which focused on Luke passing the torch to a younger generation with a female Jedi as the main character.

People are forgetting that Lucas never liked writing or directing, mainly because he knew he wasn't very good at either. I don't know why everyone wishes he helmed the sequels. I mean, without a doubt they'd be 10x more original/creative, but at the same time they'd be executed fucking terribly. I think if Lucasfilm would have benefited from George being more involved in Episode 7 he would have been more involved. Kathy Kennedy has known Lucas since the late-70s. He personally picked her to replace him. Do you really think she would have gone and thrown out his ideas if they were better than what we got just to spite him for making the prequels? No, they went in a different direction because his ideas weren't worth using.
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>>91193967
>Hayden Christensen (Anakin Skywalker), star of Star Wars: Attack of the Clones and Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith, returns to Celebration for the first time since 2002. Christensen will also meet fans and sign autographs at the show.

HOLY FUUUUUCK
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>>91193375
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>>91194103
he will def. get booed in theatres
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>>91176590
>>91176759
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>>91194106
source?
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>>91187845
space jews, RIP Watto

he was a good friend
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>>91194106
>using Rogue One as canon
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>>91194131
i blame normies riding on prequel hate bandwagon
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>>91188403
oh god it really did age like milk

I respect Lucas for revolutionizing CGI with the prequels but I honestly wish he didn't preoccupy himself with turning them into a technological sandpit and instead did that with something else
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>>91194199
blame aotc being terrible
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>>91194131
>>91194103

If he does, it'll only be by cunts who definitely are not Star Wars fans.

Hayden is one of the nicest guys ever, and did as well as he could in his role. Booing him because of some shitty meme videos, and because you may personally not like the movies he was in, is just disgusting behavior.

Thankfully the fans who go to Celebration are usually very respectable to all aspects of the franchise.

But if when Hayden shows up in 8, im sure there will be a few dickheads who will try and prove "themselves" by audibly groaning.
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>>91194230
that looks fine, AND is practical, contrarian
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>>91194230
it could be fixed with a special edition
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>Mustafar and Vader's Castle confirmed
>Vader's Castle interior confirmed to be more detailed than was shown
>Hayden showing up at Celebration
>Hayden ghost rumors
>Kylo Ren in general

it is all coming together
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>>91194156
The movie and its official novelization.
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>>91194120
>it was literally just about pirates, like the main villains were space pirates with no relation to the OT at all
I don't know Anon, that sounds way more fun than the mess we got.
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>>91194284
>Mustafar and Vader's Castle confirmed

For The Last Jedi? Source?
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>>91188403
>>91194275
I'm no movie maker man but it looks like a lot of the sets were real miniatures and the actors had to be green screened into them.
But I'm no movie maker man.
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>>91194290
>the movie
no ramming there, no cruisers destroyed by the destroyers

>official novelization.
non canon
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>>91191081
didn't Rian start writing Episode 8 well before TFA even came out? I remember him posting a picture on instagram of a napkin where he wrote down
>Daisy=Rey
>John=Finn
>Adam=Kylo
or something along those lines before reading the script for the first time. I can't see him knowing that the traitor scene would be the meme of the month after the movie came out, but then again it's possible they added it in a rewrite
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>>91194315
for either TLJ or IX

MSW and another guy said that Endor/Tattooine/Mustafar all show up in either of those two, and recently from a Lucasfilm guy

>And we’ve done quite a bit of exploration of what’s on the inside of it as well, and hopefully that’ll be seen in some other film.”
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>>91194103
Pretty sure it won't be that bad. People act like they hate him on the internet but i'm pretty sure irl most prequel-haters will suck his dick and applaud him like the forgotten hero of the Star Wars saga
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>>91194106
Ok I know you're retarded and baiting at the same time, but I need to show you this picture of ROTJ where Mon Cal cruisers blow up a Star Destroyer. I know you don't want to admit you're wrong and stupid on the internet because that would break your fragile little ego, but you need to let your headcanon go.
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>>91194329

>an official novelization of an original trilogy movie is noncanon
>but a shitty cashgrab made by hackney producers on behalf of a child-focused company is canon

Really joggins the noggins.................
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>>91194326
Some things(too big to do as a set) were miniatures that the actors were green screened in(just like in the OT except with mattes and bluescreen) but there were plenty of sets too
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>>91194382
....................................................................
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>>91191177
This
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>>91194360

No one's denying that the Mon Cal cruisers aren't still front-line battleships.

But destroying one Star Destroyer and losing multiple cruisers to do it, then having to resort to kamikaze attacks to destroy the others, pretty much means that Star Destroyers are superior ships.

Spoiler: they are.
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>>91194382
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>>91191915
be honest /swco/, if there was a scene in TLJ or XI where Luke landed on top of a Star Destroyer and deflected its laser blasts into the engines or whatever with his lightsaber, would you be mad or would you love it?

it'd be stupid but I'd eat it up desu
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>>91194382
For one thing, LSG has explicitly stated that any time a novelization, especially a pre-canon purge novelization, differs from events depicted in movies, it is not to be trusted.

For another, I have the movie novelizations on my desk. Care to point to the passage where it states that?

>>91194418
Where does it state that? I have yet to see any proof. The only thing said in ROTJ is "We won't last long against those Star Destroyers." "We'll last longer than we will against that death star, and we might just take a few of them with us!"
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>>91194456
In space? Fuck no

In atmosphere? ..... Maybe, depends how well they execute it.
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>>91194456
that's retarded
and not meele stortroopers retarded, it's legends level of retardation
it will never happen
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>>91194477
Near the end of the Battle of Endor recap.

Secondly, I'll trust Disney with Star Wars canon about as far as I can throw them.
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>>91194456
I'd fucking love it
I'd love it more if he used the force to shut down a star destroyer.
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>>91194275
>>91194230
The issue is more that 2 and 3 were shot digitally with cameras that are about equivalent to what you can get with a modern iPhone, so the native resolution of those movies kinda sucks. Mix that in with how Digital in general makes stuff look really fake and you got something that ages poorly.

Digital's merciless exposure of on-set inperfections is an issue the Hobbit movies shared with the prequels.
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>>91194418
The only mon cal cruisers destroyed in any media are the MC75 in Rogue One, the two blown up by the Death Star over Endor, several at the battle of Jakku in Aftermath, and those above Hosnian in TFA.

The only references to "kamikaze" Rebel ships (before Zero Hour that is) are the GR75s being used as bomb ketches in the (not quite canon) ROTJ novelization, and sort of in aftermath when one of the new Starhawk battleships (not a mon cal cruisers) tractor beams the super star destroyer Ravager to death.
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>>91194532
>Secondly, I'll trust Disney with Star Wars canon about as far as I can throw them.
Autism.
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>>91194456

I'd love a scene where the Empire isn't shown getting its ass kicked. Luke jumps on top of the Star Destroyer, gets vaporized instantly, then the Star Destroyer proceeds to blow up a small Rebel fleet while down on the planet a single squad of Stormtroopers is annihilating a battalion of Rebels.

When the plot-armor comes off, the Empire get real.
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>Secondly, I'll trust Disney with Star Wars canon about as far as I can throw them.
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH WHY CANT YOU EUFAGS JUST ADMIT THE SHIT YOU LIKE IS HEADCANON INSTEAD OF STILL SHILLING IT LIKE IT MATTERS
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>>91194528
it will happen
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>>91193451
Based Pablo. I have the exact same list as Pablo except TFA is last instead of AotC
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>>91194487
I was thinking atmosphere, but now that you mention it, what would happen if a character was exposed to space? I assume Luke or someone could hold their breath but would they need a space suit regardless? I know space in Star Wars works differently from real life with all of the sound and explosions, so is there an in-universe answer?
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>>91194604
Same
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>>91194275
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>>91193451
>ROTS over ROTJ

wow jesus christ
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>>91194584

>y-your canon is retarded!
>not my corporate product made by soulless frauds who know nothing about star wars and only want to make a quick buck off a license by releasing a slapdash film every single year!
>not my corporation that admits to wanting to cram in bullshit via cucks like Wendig into our franchise!
>not my corporation that eradicates 40 years worth of canon so they can monopolize it and make money!
>y-you're the autistic ones!!
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>>91194608
Space doesn't make you explode, so kylo ren would probably be fine, so long as he had air. Though, Vader stood at a breach and made his cape flap, so he could probably do the same, and use the force to protect himself
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>>91194550
>so the native resolution of those movies kinda sucks.
ehh, there are ways of improving it should they ever want to do 4k releases

>Mix that in with how Digital in general makes stuff look really fake and you got something that ages poorly.
It really doesn't, and they have aged relatively fine. Only a few things haven't aged well, and a good portion of that is stuff in TPM.
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>>91194608
Rebels, TCW and the comics have shown that characters can survive in space very, VERY briefly. Like, sub-1 minute.

Aphra and Kanan both managed to survive very briefly in space. Plo Koon and Greivous (in ROTS) survived in space briefly due to their masks.

Worth mentioning that in ESB, Leia/Han went out in nothing but masks when they were on an asteroid floating in space. Funny how everyone forgets that.

Luke would presumably need a suit/mask.
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>>91194608
>could hold their breath
that's the opposite of what you want to do

Kanan reacts to vacuum more or less how you'd expect him to react and TCW Jedi wear spacesuits, maybe there is some form of force bubble or whatever but I don't recall it in canon.
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>>91194653
is there an in-universe explanation for gravity on ships as well? or has it always been one of those "don't worry about it" things

>mfw imagining a zero-g lightsaber fight

fugg
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>>91194532
>>91194382
That original official novelization also says that Uncle Owen is Obi-Wan Kenobi's brother
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>>91194675
>Worth mentioning that in ESB, Leia/Han went out in nothing but masks when they were on an asteroid floating in space. Funny how everyone forgets that.

surely Falcon doesn't have any enviromental sensors and they just went out trusting there is pressure outside
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>>91194456

If you're really craving a cringeworthy jump the shark moment, maybe.

If you crave any kind of realism or common sense, an ISD's turblosers can vaporize giant ships in seconds, render a planet to ash, and incinerate anything stupid enough to get near it.

Hitting a human wouldn't even leave behind goop, ash, particle dust, anything. You would just cease to exist. Luke would cease to exist, as would his lightsaber.
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>>91194701
gravity generators, a standard scifi technology

they can be turned off or break, like in RotS and some TCW and Rebels episodes
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>>91194708
What's wrong with that?
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>>91194638
>the EU was not a corporate product
>the EU was not an even more soulless corporate product because Lucasfilm literally gave no shit about its stories as long as they made money whereas Lucasfilm Story Group administers all current canon
really makes me think...

>>91194556
>>91194418
>>91194106
Page 206 of the Barnes and Noble Hardover Star Wars Trilogy Return of the Jedi Novelization:
"Heroic, sometimes suicidal, maneuvers marked the day. A Rebel cruiser [presumably an MC80], its back alive with fires and explosions, limped into direct contact with an Imperial Star Destroyer before exploding completely - taking the Star Destroyer with it. Cargo ships [presumably GR75s] loaded with charge were set on collision courses with fortress-vessels [presumably referring to ISDs], their crews abandoning ships to fates that were uncertain, at best."
This is the ONLY reference to "kamikaze" maneuvers with the exception of Arvel Crynyd's crash into the Executor's bridge. One (likely) Mon Cal cruiser for one ISD.
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>>91194727
>If you crave any kind of realism or common sense, an ISD's turblosers can vaporize giant ships in seconds, render a planet to ash, and incinerate anything stupid enough to get near it.

I need a webm of Kanan dodging those megaton range turbolaser bolts
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>>91194708
honestly that makes more sense than
>hey are you Anakin Skywalker's brother?
>well, half-brother, I only met him for a few minutes and then he left and came back with my mom's dead body
>hey here's his kid take care of him alright
>wait wait wait what
>his name's Luke, keep him a secret but you can leave him with his father's last name it's not that big of a secret see ya
>WAIT where's his dad?
>dead probably idk I left him on fire with no legs next to some lava
>what the FUCK
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>>91194751
>Could be more Kenobis running around
>is probably going to be ___Rey
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>>91194638
lol
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>>91194751
That's not only a fallacious claim and no such assertion is made in the novelization, but it is dramatically nonsensical and irrelevant and expressly contradictory to the entire rest of the franchise.
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>>91194755
>Page 206 of the Barnes and Noble Hardover Star Wars Trilogy Return of the Jedi Novelization

This is Autism, but good autism
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>>91194777
fuck don't remind me
>how did Kenobi know about Owen and Beru?
>why did he think hiding Luke with Anakin's brother would be secretive
>why did Owen and Beru just take the baby without saying a word

fuck it the more I think about it the more I hate it I give up
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>rey is related to uncle owen
>rey could be luke's cousin

hue hue hue
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>>91194793
>no such assertion is made in the novelization,

But it is.

>"Your mother and I knew he would find out eventually, but we wanted to keep you both as safe as possible, for as long as possible. So I took you to live with my brother Owen, on Tatooine..."

They even came up with asspulls to justify that line in later EU material.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Owen_(Kenobi)

>While Obi-Wan Kenobi was born to parents on the planet Stewjon, he was identified as Force-sensitive as an infant and was quickly taken to the Coruscant Jedi Temple for training in the ways of the Force by the Jedi Order. Despite this, during his apprenticeship to Jedi Master Qui-Gon Jinn, Kenobi began having dreams of his parents and of a brother named Owen. Recounting his dreams to his master, Jinn cautioned him that dreams could sometimes be visions of the past or the future. For much of his life before the Clone Wars, Kenobi believed that he must have returned to Stewjon early on and met his parents, thus forming the memory of them and his brother.[1]
>It wasn't until the first few months of the Clone Wars when Kenobi learned that his Padawan, Anakin Skywalker, had met his stepbrother on Tatooine in the days before he journeyed to Geonosis. After telling Kenobi of meeting Lars and learning of the death of his mother, Shmi, Kenobi began having doubts as to the true identity of his brother Owen. It wasn't until the end of the Clone Wars and the destruction of the Order that Kenobi began connecting all of the pieces of this decades-long puzzle. As he fled persecution on Nar Shaddaa with the infant Luke Skywalker in his custody, Kenobi prepared to take the boy to the Larses on Tatooine. Finally, Kenobi concluded that the dreams he had as a boy were a vision of Owen Lars, his student's stepbrother. The fraternity he felt between himself and Owen was true, from a certain point of view. As Kenobi felt a brotherly bond with his former student, Lars too would be his brother.[1]
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>>91194797
It's the only way I could describe it. Barnes and Noble publishes its own special hardcover collations of classic stories. They have at least three versions of the Star Wars trilogy novelizations (three books contained within the same tome) distinguished by different covers, one being the white and blue R2-D2, the next being black and gold C-3PO the last being the silver and black Darth Vader.

>>91194850
Page reference please, I can't find it.
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>>91194848
This is vaguely related but it's weird to think that Luke and Leia have biological cousins (Padme's nieces) that never were brought up again after Episode III.
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>>91194550
it doesn't help that Lucas is a really lazy director when it comes to directing mostly live action scenes

>mfw I thought the "shot, reverse-shot" thing was an RLM meme
>mfw Lucas literally had 2 monitors in front of him and would glance at both when directing two people talking
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>>91187456
How about that theory...
Reys last name is revealed to be....


...Palpatine.
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>PT ends with evil skywalker vs good kenobi

>OT

>ST ends with evil(?) kenobi vs good(?) skywalker

do I even have to say it
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>>91194878
I have the novelizations in individual paperbacks printed in the 90s. Page 66, found in Chapter 3. It's an extended version of the "Certain point of view" scene.
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had a dream last night that Zoey Deutch played Rey instead of Daisy Ridley, would've been waifu-tier desu
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>>91194755

At least you could more easily pick and choose what was canon and what wasn't to you in the Expanded Universe, because of how passive Lucasfilm was.

Disney is overbearingly authoritative and strict with its canon, and all of its original canon is absolute shit, and it's the only canon anyone's allowed to use.

I'd watch The Phantom Menace with all scenes except Jar Jar's removed fifteen hundred times before I'd watch Rogue One or The Farce Engorges again.
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>>91194928
It'd be funnier if they asspulled it so it was Hux that was the Kenobi all along, and he dies because of Kylo's Incompetence
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>>91194812
>how did Kenobi know about Owen and Beru?
Sometime between AotC and RotS Padme or Anakin mentioned meeting family to Obi-wan.
>why did he think hiding Luke with Anakin's brother would be secretive
Hiding in plain site is a technique.
>why did Owen and Beru just take the baby without saying a word
Jedi mind trick. More likely, they felt an obligation to their orphaned nephew.
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>>91194952
>authoritative and strict with its canon,
lol

this is the fucking point of canon m8
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>>91194952
>Disney is overbearingly authoritative and strict with its canon, and all of its original canon is absolute shit, and it's the only canon anyone's allowed to use.
It is so abundantly clear that you havent got a clue what youre talking about.
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>>91194952
>Disney is overbearingly authoritative and strict with its canon, and all of its original canon is absolute shit, and it's the only canon anyone's allowed to use.
*Lucasfilm
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>>91194952
>disney's original canon is shit
>Catalyst

Nice bait
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>>91194952
>Disney is overbearingly authoritative and strict with its canon
>The Catholic Church is overbearingly authoritative and strict with its canon
you don't seem to know what canon means, it's a notion of objective truth which fundamentally cannot coexist with subjective falsehoods

>>91194937
I can't find that in either my 1984 copy or my 2012 Barnes and Noble reprint. So that says a lot about its authenticity.
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>>91187058
better chance than most
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>>91195010
post a pic of the page he's talking about, anon
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>>91195010
Settle it with a picture?
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>>91194952
Disney isn't in fucking control. The decision to reboot the EU was all on Lucasfilm and was being talked about when the sequel trilogy was being planned before the Disney sale around like 2011/early 2012.

Hell, the CG Clone Wars was basically a start of the rebooting process, but they didn't fully commit to pulling the trigger to keep people like you from REEEEing.
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>>91185735
I hope that IF they decide to bring her back as an Inquisitor that she's gonna use Ventress' lightsabers, just to switch things up from the spin-sabers.
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>>91195033
>>91195035
Nevermind I found it in the 2012 Reprint. Its presence is still irrelevant because its directly contradicted by the movies.
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>>91195010

No, canon doesn't have one single definition. Take Tolkien's legendarium for example. The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings trilogy are both canon as they're made by Tolkien. The Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales, Children of Hurin, and others are also canon, because they're based on ideas of Tolkien carried through by his son. Yet, Tolkien's son says that while they're all canon, readers shouldn't feel obligated to take all of it as fact, because it's based on ideas that could've been changed. They're canon, but if you don't want to follow them, you don't have to. This is why the Tolkien fandom has some very loose concepts on what's canonical, like the Dagor Dagorath.

Lucasfilm too, while seemingly strict on the license levels of canon, was very relaxed on what they enforced as canon. Authors often changed canon or retconned things in their stories, which was admittedly one of the EU's faults. Yet they could do it, and fans could follow and read and believe what they chose. Not with Lucasfilm's direct encouragement, unlike Tolkien's, but with Lucasfilm's indirect leniency and allowance.

Disney does neither of those things. It gutted every single work possible as non-canon and has now monopolized the canonicity of Star Wars and all of its content. Nothing exists without Disney's 100% expressed consent and strict adherence to their arbitrary standards, if you could even call them that, because

>>91195001

>disney's original canon isn't shit
>Aftermath
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>>91195138
I can cherrypick the worst too anon!
>vaders magic glove
>green force lightning
>Lukes ENTIRE legends page on the wook
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>>91195138
>Tolkien's son says that while they're all canon, readers shouldn't feel obligated to take all of it as fact, because it's based on ideas that could've been changed.
so they aren't canon and that fucker doesn't know what canon means, just like you
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>>91195133
hm... says a lot about your authenticity
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>>91195138
>Disney does neither of those things. It gutted every single work possible as non-canon and has now monopolized the canonicity of Star Wars and all of its content. Nothing exists without Disney's 100% expressed consent and strict adherence to their arbitrary standards, if you could even call them that, because
Disney did none of that.

Lucasfilm made the EU non-canon, and Lucasfilm is in charge of canon. Nothing exists without Lucasfilm's express consent.
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>>91195138

This didn't just allow "lol autistic headcanon", it allowed debate and discussion of canon and what was truly quality lore in Star Wars. Just like Tolkien fans can debate on what-the-fuck Nameless Things were, or if Morgoth would return in the Dagor Dagorath, Star Wars fans could debate, they could propose what-ifs, they could follow certain works and ignore others. It inspired creativity, critical picking-and-choosing, discernment between works, and the reinforcement of the idea that this was YOUR universe, one for the fans, by the fans, and ultimately YOU had control over it. It was a magical thing that people who didn't experience Star Wars before the 2000s don't understand, I think, and may never truly understand.

Disney basically said "Fuck creativity, give us money" and that's where we're at today.
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>>91195138
yeah but there's a difference between arguing whether or not a Balrog has wings because Tolkien could've been describing it metaphorically and shit like arguing over whether or not the novelization of RoTJ is canon
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>>91195199
>Lucasfilm made the EU non-canon
I'd like to add, it was NEVER canon
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>>91195138
>im going to cherrypick the one canon thing I know is universally looked down on, so people wont call me wrong
>S-SEE GUYS?
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>>91195138
Aftermath's author is bad but the plot given to him to write is not.

Furthermore, Lucasfilm ALWAYS considered the EU noncanon since the beginning, with Leland Chee desperately trying to balanced numerous tiers of canon to appease EUtists.

Finally, that Tolkien bit is nonsense. Either something is canon or it isn't, you don't get to pick and choose the parts you like. Does the Second Amendment become invalid because communists don't like it?
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>>91195224
yeah fucking hell, "EU isn't canon" was an argument for years before Disney made it official. At least they gave it the title of Legends instead of just saying "nope, not canon" and taking them out of print
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>>91195191
>>91195035
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>>91195138
>Look ma, I'm cherrypicking!
>And I don't know what canon means!
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>>91193451
I > VII
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>>91195191
I admitted I was wrong about the quote, at least for the special edition version which was probably used in the reprint. But that does not change either of the two times I mentioned about Pablo declaring contradictory elements in novelizations non-canon.
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>>91195199

>yeah so I know that Disney bought the Star Wars license and now owns Lucasfilm and the LSG but guys they're totally independent of Disney Disney has no control over Star Wars!
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>>91195297
but le ebil JJ mouseman
>>
https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/705442511137873920

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/680202967106994176

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/678680351951085568

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/683361338542829568

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/682260562567237632

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/682141438847524864

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/681926771894173696
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>>91195319
And here is a magnificent example of the "Moving the Goalposts" strategy, consistently used by the samefag baiter who's been spamming this thread for a week everytime he's proven an idiot and publicly shamed.
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>>91195347
thank you for posting this. I think these links should be permanently added to the OP.
>>
How the fuck did it go to shit this quickly again.
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>Episode 8 trailer in exactly 2 weeks

I almost don't want it, I don't think I'm ready lads. At least with TFA we had spy-pics and info trickled out more gradually, but Episode 8 has been insane with the amount of info that hasn't leaked.

btw I hope you guys realize there are going to be countless fake "leaks" in the weeks following the trailer and that you shouldn't fall for them. If nothing has leaked yet then nothing will suddenly leak once a trailer is conveniently out and could be used as a basis for ideas.
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>>91195387
not him but:

https://swinfoground.wordpress.com/2016/08/08/quotes-hidalgos-answers-to-questions-part-ii
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>>91195218
It wasn't magical, it was frustrating as you ended up with 5 different people, each with their own preferences on canon and it all boiled down to NUH UH, MUH CANON. Canon levels were always retarded and I'm glad to see them gone.
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>>91195389
because one or two redditors thinks its le epic for the win xd to "raid" this thread and samefag like mad with the exact same pathetic bait of such phenomenal stupidity that it simply demands mass derision
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>everyone losing their minds over Hayden coming to celebration when IAN MCDIARMID is going to be at the same panel

Sheev is a meme among normies now, we're absolutely in for some Sheevspinning
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>>91194850
Oh jeez, poked into the "Imaginary individuals" category the Owen page was listed under and found this as the only other entry.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jinn_Skywalker

>Jinn Skywalker was the unreal, but dreamed-of son of Anakin Skywalker and Padmé Amidala. Darth Vader envisioned of Jinn's existence having happened had he not turned to the dark side and Padmé had not died in childbirth. Vader chose the name Jinn in honor of his deceased mentor Qui-Gon Jinn.
>>
>>91193967
>>Hayden Christensen (Anakin Skywalker), star of Star Wars: Attack of the Clones and Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith, returns to Celebration for the first time since 2002. Christensen will also meet fans and sign autographs at the show.
OH MAN
OH MAN
BASED HAYDEN COMING TO CELEBRATION

GHOST ANAKIN H A P P E N I N G
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>>91195218
>this corporate moneymaking scheme is art when it suits me
>this different corporate moneymaking scheme is soulless capitalism because it broke my nostalgia goggles
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>>91195403
>Episode 8 trailer
>Rebels S4 trailer [spolier]once again much better than the actual episodes[/spoiler]
>Battlefront:EA 2 trailer confirming that the game is shit, doesn't have the Clone Wars and everyone who buys it is fucking retarded
>maybe a trailer or two for actually interesting games
>maybe Han teaser
>more interviews with based Filoni
>Hayden

So much to look for!
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>>91195387
You're welcome. I have a whole catalogue of Pablo tweets on various things that I add to as new tweets come out and as I discover older ones.

Here's all of them I have so far

https://pastebin.com/ruG6pufi
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>>91195491
>Vader chose the name Jinn in honor of his deceased mentor Qui-Gon Jinn

le kenobi cucked face
>>
>>91195351
>>91195471

Wait, so disliking Dinsey's canon, disliking Rogue One, or arguing in favor of Legends or the Expanded Universe means you're not only an angry baiter, but also a Redditor engaged in an organized raid on 4chan to... shame themselves publicly and get mass derision?

Do you even comprehend what you typed?

By the way, if you ever make the mistake of going to the Star Wars reddit, it's full of horribly retarded normies who would absolutely fuck NuCanon in the ass and fondle its balls if they could. No joke, they're fucking obsessed with NuCanon and loving it. From what I've seen, they believe Disney and JJ can do absolutely no wrong and that TFA/R1 are superior to the OT.
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>>91194456
It sounds like it wouldn't serve the larger story in any way outside of being a flashy sequence "the fans" would want so it'd be nonsense
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>>91195561
this one
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>>91195545
holy fuck
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>>91195544
fuck, I fucked up the spoiler, keep forgetting about ctrl s
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>>91195569
is this the same reddit that sucks Plinkett's cock or did I shift into the Berenstein universe
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>>91195569
This goes on way too long, rare you actually retarded?
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>>91195569
RO is on the level of the OT though
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>>91195487
DOOD WTFF? THAT MEANS SHEEV IS CONFIRMED FOR TLJ!!
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>>91195618
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>>91195610
>or did I shift into the Berenstein universe
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>>91195632
When Hayden Christensen makes his first public Star Wars related appearance in over a decade hot on the heels of the exposure of the next Star Wars movie, it's not that big a stretch to imagine he has something to do with it especially when concept art was already planning precisely the same thing for TFA.
>>
>>91195610
r/StarWars is more of a prequel circlejerk than /swco/

the only Star Wars subreddit worthwhile is r/MawInstallation
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>>91195632
I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up using Force Flashbacks again to show us a bit of Sheev's desires to explore the Unknown Regions in 8 or 9.
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>>91195651
>

not an argument
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>>91195651
I don't like Rogue One very much (unironically 2edgy4me) but he is right that it's exceptionally well done.
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>>91195487
>Ian enters on stage with a spin
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>>91195632
FIOLINI CONFIRMED FOR EPISODE 8

IS HE WEARING THE HAT TO HIDE HIS SCAR? IS HE SNOKE?
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>>91195618
>>91195685
Is it even worth an argument? People talk about EUfags being baiters, but this "Rogue One is OT-quality" bullshit isn't even trying. It's you pretending to be retarded and thinking you've won when they call you a retard.
>>
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>>91195702
There are genuine criticisms against it, but just saying "LOL CASH IN" with all the extra shit they put in the backgrounds and the obvious love that went into it is so stupid
>>
>>91195668
>>91195632
WTF i love the new trilogy now
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>>91195702
I don't like Rogue One because of the bland characters and dull first half and I agree that it's exceptionally well done, but he was saying it's on the level of the OT, which just isn't true.
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>>91195569
>disliking Rogue One
It may be time to stop posting.
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>>91195668
If it was just any other SW Celebration I'd be scratching my head wondering why Hayden was there. But this is Star Wars 40th Anniversary Celebration we're talking about here.
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>>91195750
It ain't no prequel and it isn't even lower than TFA. Where would it be
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>>91195740
no one called it a cash in, and the backgrounds having detail wouldn't be an argument even if he did call it a cash-in.
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>>91195740
>obvious love

Did we watch the same movie?

Every time someone says they hated Rogue One or thought it was a bad movie in this generals defenders always say "but think of the love that went into it!" as if they know that it was a passion project or something, as if they were there and can objectively tell whether or not it was a cash-in or a genuine project.

You can't. "Love" isn't an argument against why it's a terrible movie, and in my opinion, it certainly is one.
>>
>>91195767
personally?
V>IV>VI>VII>RO>I>III>II

but I'm going to get so much shit for putting VII that high and saying Episode I was the best prequel
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>>91195793
And your opinion is wrong, just like the rest of your wrong opinions in this thread you've been shitting up.
>>
Revenge of the Sith = Rogue One > The Empire Strikes Back > The Phantom Menace = A New Hope > Attack of the Clones = Return of the Jedi >>>>>>>>>>>>> The Force Awakens

this is unironically, non-memeing, how I'd rank the movies from favorite to least favorite
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>>91195767
A good number of fans think it's below the prequels, at least below ROTS and possibly below TPM or even AOTC. TFA generally falls around the ROTS level, generally below it.

Believe it or not, many long-time Star Wars fans don't like the new films.
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>>91195825
Your opinion is also wrong.
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So if Jedi Knights are asian in appearance and tradition, what if Knights of Ren are western in both appearance tradition so they are conquerors?

Snoke or whoever he serves could be the "Emperor" of the faction the Jedi either knew about and didn't talk about or didn't know in wild space, which is why he attempted to commune with Palpatine because he was the closest thing in force power to himself.

There could be a shit ton of Knights of Ren besides the ones that follow Kylo, and the reason Snoke and Kylo are so powerful/high ranked is because they use the force. The Force may be a little known thing wherever Snoke is from, and that is how he earned his power.
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>>91194335
Yeah he did
And if I recall he had to do some rewrites because surprise surprise JJ screwed with the production. Like letting Poe survive and such.
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>>91195793
Okay, love was a bad word for it. The time they spent coordinating it with extra material, and including things from rebels (aside from Saw, I hated him in the film and I like RO) it's obvious that more people who enjoyed Star Wars were included. JJ is a shit in that he doesn't get what makes star wars great, just like he doesn't get Star Trek. It's definitely up there with my favourites, and it's LEAGUES better than the shitfest that was TFA. It had some genuinely good, new ideas, even if the presentation was a bit wonky.
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>>91195826
Not the order I'd go with but sure, I'll take it.
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>>91195826
>TPM as good as ANH
>Attack of the Clones as good as ROTJ and better than TFA

huh
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>>91195831
these are some fine, fine weasel words

>>91195826
>ROTJ that low
Your opinion is shit, but your complex ranking clearly shows you put time into thinking about it and that is commendable and as such I must respect your opinion.
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>>91195826
>The Phantom Menace = A New Hope

I hope you fall in a blender
>>
Those generals always get shitty when Americans show up.
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>>91195874
I think Poe surviving was something that changed before the table read, cuz I'm pretty sure JJ mentioned in the commentary Oscar Isaac wasn't sure if he was going to take the role because he didn't want to play someone who died so early in the film

I can't even picture why they'd originally have Poe die off-screen so early anyway, but then again I was surprised with how he seemed like he'd be the protagonist with how much he was in the film at first only for him to disappear for an hour
>>
TPM=AOTC=ROTS=RO=ANH=ESB=ROTJ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TFA
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>>91195875

A better argument, but what "good, new ideas" did it add?

It's a story about the theft of the Death Star plans that introduces a cast of ridiculously uninteresting Rebel characters complete with a Mary Sue, a horrendously incompetent Empire with a laughably moronic director at the head of it and a comic relief Vader, it features a long, drawn-out and snoozeworthy battle sequence that doesn't make any coherent sense in continuity or lore, it introduces comic relief robot sidekick number 784,023 for little kids to meme about on Reddit, it tries to bring back old characters through the worst CGI since Gollumsnoke, it has atrocious effects and set design outside of the scene of the garrison leaving the city (which admittedly looks nice), it falls completely flat on its ass with its attempts at humor except for one or two lines, the music is so boring and uninspired that it makes TFA's soundtrack look stellar by comparison (the only good moments being when they brought back old music), it accomplishes nothing in the new lore at all, it's a chore to sit through, and because non-fans ate it up and gave Disney money, it's the new quality standard. It's the new bar. Disney is going to make every subsequent film just like Rogue One. It genuinely angers my fan autism. I've loved Star Wars for a long time, and to see it get ruined and then be told that its ruining moment is now the franchise highlight just really pisses me off.
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>>91195767
>>91195817
>>91195826
>>91195995
ESB > ANH >> ROTJ > ROTS >>> TPM > AOTC >> TFA >>>>> RO
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>anyone who ranks a single prequel above ROTJ

What the hell, man?
>>
>posted this in a thread a few weeks ago, but I'll post it again before this turns into "RO vs TFA"

Rogue One was made for Star Wars fans as the focus with the general audience secondary. It had worldbuilding and shit fanboys would eat up. The Force Awakens was for everyone, just like A New Hope, just like Empire, just like Jedi.

Did The Force Awakens retell the same story as the originals? Absolutely. Did it have memorable characters and was it enjoyable from start to finish? Yup. All four of the main leads are already iconic, which surprised me because when I first saw Kylo Ren's name announced I immediately thought that his character was doomed pop culture wise because of how stupid his name is. I guess I was wrong (well maybe not about his name). Rogue One, on the other hand, had incredibly weak characters and I don't think any of them will be remembered by casual fans in a few years. Aside from the Vader scene, I don't really think it will leave much of an impact on anyone who isn't already a Star Wars fan.

It really comes down to preference. I think the reason why you see a lot of TFA bashing and RO praising in these threads is because people here like world building stuff and are more interested in a good Star Wars movie than a good movie. The Force Awakens wasn't meant for just fanboys. If it was, it would be about the EU characters. It was meant to get the general public interested in Star Wars again after the prequels divided people. They wanted to see Han Solo and Chewbacca and the Millennium Falcon again, not a suicide mission to get the Death Star plans featuring characters we don't know about all dying at the end.

And honestly, both movies did great jobs at doing what they intended to do. The Last Jedi will be closer to The Force Awakens, and Snoke will probably be an original character, or at least not fucking Plagueis or someone 2% of the audience knows about.
>>
So since Hayden is going to Celebration.
Imagine him, and Mark Hamill!!
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>>91196040
just when it seems like you can't find a stupider post in /swco/ in walks this gentleman
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>>91196121
Well, yeah, obviously. We aren't normies, we don't give a shit about normie opinions and worldbuilding is the single most important thing in Star Wars.

If you can't take the heat, fuck off back to plebbit you cum gargler.
>>
>>91196150

>heh i almost had to admit you made a good argument but i'm gonna call you stupid instead hahahah what now
>>
>>91195887
I like ROTJ's third act, but I don't really care for the first ac and the second act drags

plus, out of the entire OT ROTJ has aged the worst visually

>>91195907
I hope you learn that people can have different opinions and mature a little.

>>91196089
what's the issue?
>>
>>91196121
>Did The Force Awakens retell the same story as the originals? Absolutely.

Stopped reading here. It's not good if it retells the same story.
>>
>>91196121
>Did it have memorable characters
some were, many weren't

>and was it enjoyable from start to finish?
no

>All four of the main leads are already iconic
ehhhhh

> Rogue One, on the other hand, had incredibly weak characters
Not really.

>and I don't think any of them will be remembered by casual fans in a few years.
You were proven incorrect on this last time.

>Aside from the Vader scene, I don't really think it will leave much of an impact on anyone who isn't already a Star Wars fan.
You're retarded if you believe this

>. It was meant to get the general public interested in Star Wars again after the prequels divided people.
didn't happen, the prequels were well-received among the general public

>They wanted to see Han Solo and Chewbacca and the Millennium Falcon again,
doesn't mean the story needs to be a rehash

>not a suicide mission to get the Death Star plans featuring characters we don't know about all dying at the end.
source?
>>
>>91196209
I don't have to make any further argument that you calling Rey a Mary Sue is stupendously misinformed and idiotic, or else your a brazen fraudster intentionally baiting. Take your pick - retard or asshole?
>>
>>91196121
>both movies did great jobs at doing what they intended to do.
RO did, TFA didn't.

>The Last Jedi will be closer to The Force Awakens
Stop posting now, you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>
>>91196294
>i like rogue one so therefore you're retarded if you don't

Quality arguments from /swco/ as usual.
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>>91196218
>ROTJ aged the worst visually
what the actual fuck are you talking about
>>
>>91196315
Here's the last (You) you're gonna get from me.
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>>91196294
>"Aside from the Vader scene, I don't really think it will leave much of an impact on anyone who isn't already a Star Wars fan.
>You're retarded if you believe this"

well my friend who somehow never watched a Star Wars movie decided for some reason that he'd start with Rogue One, and I asked him what he thought about the scene after he saw it and he said he thought it was cool but didn't understand who Darth Vader was aside from what he knows from just the characters general pop culture relevance

>"source?"
...the movie?
>>
>>91196315
Rey is a Mary Sue, anon.

He called Jyn a Marry Sue, tho.
>>
>>91195561
I mean to be fair Kenobi wasn't exactly viewed very highly by Vader at that point
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>>91196379
I meant to say Jyn, fuck me. Rey is definitely a Mary Sue, but him calling Jyn one was profoundly idiotic.
>>
>>91196379
>>91196405
>a random woman can beat up stormtroopers with her bare hands and a baton
>feminist icon according to the people making the movie
>not a mary sue
>>
>>91196469
I don't think you know what a Mary Sue is Anon
>>
TFA had better characters and writing, RO has better ideas

What's more important?
>>
>>91196469
>feminist icon according to the people making the movie

this is bad...? she's a role model for little girls, not protesting Trump while wearing a pink hat she knitted together on the ride over.
>>
>>91196511
TFA doesn't have better writing or characters though
>>
>>91196511
>TFA had better characters and writing
it didn't though
>>
>>91196505
I don't think you do, because Rey and Jyn meet the definition ten times over.

>>91196522
>this is bad

Do you even need to ask that question? There's a difference between being a role model for girls (Leia) and a "FUCK THE PATRIARCHY" hero for feminists (Rey, Jyn, Mara Jade).
>>
>>91196505
At this point, any woman who shows any degree of competency is a mary sue in some people's eyes.

It's pointless to argue with them, because they'll only acknowledge evidence that supports their claims.
>>
>>91196336
not what I said faggot.

>>91196370
>well my friend who somehow never watched a Star Wars movie decided for some reason that he'd start with Rogue One, and I asked him what he thought about the scene after he saw it and he said he thought it was cool but didn't understand who Darth Vader was aside from what he knows from just the characters general pop culture relevance
your friend is not a good example of typical normies

>...the movie?
no, source that no one wanted RO
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>>91196348
I'm talking about the numerous flat/garbage matte paintings, the matte boxes around ships and popping-in ties in the Battle of Endor. The terrible-looking Rancor grabbing Luke scene.
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>>91196568
>There's a difference between being a role model for girls (Leia) and a "FUCK THE PATRIARCHY" hero for feminists (Rey, Jyn, Mara Jade).

jesus christ, none of those characters embody that. If something like Rey not needing Finn's help when they're escaping Jakku makes you project all of your hatred toward SJWs onto her then that's on you, but it's not the characters fault
>>
>>91196647
>matte paintings
they are no worse than those used in ANH and ESB, it's a literal /tv/ meme to shitpost about them
>garbage mattes
only visible when looking for them on the special edition dvds from 2005
>rancor
simply false
>>
the fact that A New Hope was made for $11 million dollars ($40 million adjusted for inflation) is the most impressive shit. It really makes me wonder if movies benefit from having more limiting budgets. I know the LOTR movies were made for $90 million each while the Hobbit movies were made for $250-$300 million each
>>
>>91196652
It'd be different if the actors, directors, producers, and multiple writers hadn't already said they view Rey and Jyn as strong women and a triumph for feminism.
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>>91196710
when you have more money to burn you care less about working intricately to make what you have work, so you get lazy and just spend more money instead of using more effort
>>
>>91196710
It's a workable theory. Have to find another means (story, characters, insert whatever) to compensating for lack of the visual razzle-dazzle.

Granted, it doesn't work some times...
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>>91196758
you mean lower tier twitter peons with no influence who immediately get reprimanded for shilling politics on company time? Or the totally irrelevant yellow journalists pushing agendas constantly?
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>>91196698
>they are no worse than those used in ANH and ESB,
They've aged worse in ROTJ than in ANH and ESB(where a lot of those were replaced or fixed)

>it's a literal /tv/ meme to shitpost about them
only after the matte paintings were pointed out in these threads

>only visible when looking for them on the special edition dvds from 2005
No, they're very visible in the Complete Saga Blu Rays from 2011. Very visible.

>simply false
Not false. The rancor scene has a few times where it looks good, but the vast majority of it aged terribly. Especially when Luke shoves the bone into its mouth, that looks so bad
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>>91196790
/pol/ease
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>>91196819
how is arguing that star wars ISNT feminist propaganda /pol/
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>>91196121
>The Force Awakens was for everyone
>Did it have memorable characters and was it enjoyable from start to finish? Yup.
>All four of the main leads are already iconic
Stopped reading there.
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NEW, NO SHITPOSTING ALLOWED
>>91196863
>>91196863
>>91196863
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