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Guess what
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk2AUZ-TvAU&feature=youtu.be
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GUYS
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>>91170284

You're better of posting this in /sug/ if you want to start a shitstorm.

And as per protocol, I'm taking this with a grain of salt.
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>>91170405
GRAIN OF SALT? IT'S THE FUCKING EPISODE!
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>>91170433
Oh please, someone could have easily animated this whole thing in their mom's basement. You're not tricking me.
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Though it is potato quality, that is the actual leaked full episode.
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>>91170433

And I don't care, the fact that it's recording of some shmuck's monitor instead of a video file adds to the dubiousness.

Now go post this in /sug/ like a good troll.

>>>/trash/8457542
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>>91170499
It's actually the full episode, in shit quality and with some shit commentary from the kid, but it's the real fucking thing.
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>steven starts crying because Rose made an alternate tape just in case he was actually a girl but steven is too autistic to understand
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About halfway through episode

How did this literal eight year old get his hands on this and why is he ruining it with his shit commentary
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No logo so could be a Turner release.
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Pretty cool that rose just used pink diamonds ship as a trash dump.
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>>91170499
believe
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This is a fucking let down
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>>91170747
Could be someone working on SU snuck in a camera and that voice is just Rebecca Sugar talking about the episode.
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>>91170747
because he killed captain alex.
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>>91170806
Maybe it's her brother, Stewven's been our inside "man" all along.
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>>91170284
well that was shit, thanks for posting so now I don't have to waste time watching it later

I'm sick of this show meandering and not tieing up any loose ends

seriously when did greg have a cat?
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>>91170284
So this episode is just fucking nothing?
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>>91170723
kid is so paranoid about Rose because the gems wont say anything. I'm not surprised after the pink diamond info.
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>>91170284
So the main take away from this is that Rose isn't some mastermind and didn't have any kind of plan for Steven
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Why is this so potato. Why can't this shit hold a camera still.
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>>91170872
I thought that was obvious from the first time we saw the tape.
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>>91170284
That was lame.
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>a literal child with Parkinson's recording a garbage episode that confirms filler forever and providing le witty commentary
Yippee
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>>91170975
>imma spoil som shiet that takes place in 2 secs.
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>>91170284
Why is this still up? Is the crewniverse lax about leaks? I'm sure they could have run a tighter ship if they wanted to.
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>Steven would have had a different name if he was a girl
It was a little heartwarming, but I don't get why it deserved its own episode.
That is, unless there's something else in Rose's warehouse. I kind of want to see that place explored a little more.
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>>91171079
Right?
>Wow, my Mom kept this place under lock and key. Meh, I'm not gonna explore because I've got some crying to do

Side note: Steven should take Amethyst there, she'd love it
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>>91170747

Maybe he was telling the truth all this time, maybe his dad really did work at nintendo
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>>91170284
Those pink pillars...IT'S A FUCKING SPACE SHIP RIGHT!

R-Right?
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I'm getting pretty sick of Steven not trusting Garnet desu

And Amethyst too, she's not hiding anything she just doesn't know dick
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>>91170284
So how did he get the episode early?
Did it already air somewhere?
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>>91170808
Because Movie
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Well, at least Steven found Jack's sword
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>>91171275
who cares? the episode was garbage
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>>91171297
JUST
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On the one hand, there was some very clear setup in this episode. We saw what's blatantly Pink Diamond's ship and saw that Steven is still interested in the chest.

On the other hand, we REALLY should be getting some payoff at this point, this is starting to really, really drag. Even more than it was already dragging.
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>a film for if he was a girl

Literally the only reason this episode exists is to cause more angst steven
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>>91170284

> always fumbling with the camera
> talking over the episode

this person needs to be shot
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>>91170284
So Lion confirmed for reshaped Pink Diamond?
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>>91171340
If it aired some place, then I could put out a better quality.
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https://twitter.com/cartoonnetwork/status/847569253008105475
I'm thinking this has something to do with how that random ass kid got that episode.
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>>91171460
it does feel like CN will upload a new episode from all their shows, cant see it being anything else.
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>>91170284
>Starts with Steven watching Rose's video. Rewinds it constantly during her message to Steven to find hints about what his magical destiny is.
>Lion spits up a big pink key.
>Steven tries it on the chest on Rose's Island, nothing.
>Steven tries using it on various other Rose-based locations. Her armor collection. The healing fountain. Rose's Room. Nothing to unlock there.
>He begs Lion for help. Where did you get this key, Lion? Take me there!
>Lion takes Steven to the desert where they first met. They travel for hours until they finally reach a big decaying structure with some pink pillars sticking out of the ground. In the center: A lock. He uses the key and behind the door... A room full of garbage.
>Frustrated Steven kicks the garbage around and finds a tape labelled "NORA".
>Steven begs Lion one more time: Take me somewhere to understand this tape!
>Lion takes him to Greg where they both watch the tape.
>It's the exact same tape Rose made for Steven, but replace all the names of "Steven" with "Nora".
>Upset Steven asks for an explanation for this. Who is Nora? What is my magical destiny? Why is this tape telling me nothing?
>Greg explains they narrowed it down to two names: Steven if he was a boy and Nora if he was a girl.
>They finish watching the tape with Rose gushing over how great humans are and Greg gives a speech that lets Steven come to the conclusion that his magical destiny is being Rose's Kid and he's O-K with that. Oh and he cries the entire time this happens.

There, I just saved everyone 11 minutes from this fucking boring of a nothing episode.
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>>91171436
the episode is hardly worth watching to begin with
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>>91170284
>Note this may go down but watch FAST
and sorry for bad quality its only on my tv
So, is this the stupid son of someone who works at CN?
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>>91171560
And that matters, why?
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I think I can finally stop watching this garbage.
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>>91171615
Me too. I'm actually done with it now.
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I'm sure somebody already downloaded the video
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>>91171560
Would be bad if you're watching a series and then one episode you get to is just a recording of a monitor.
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>>91171611
because trying to find a higher quality version of a leaked episode this shitty is a waste of time and effort
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>>91171383
Agreed with both things you said.
Fucking hell that key was such a tease though. Even to Steven who immediately went to the chest to unlock it. But yeah Steven is at least really actively searching now.
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Of course Roundtable is being a huge faggot about it
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>>91171460
April fools day though..
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>>91171538
wow it's literally fucking nothing
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>>91171538

I feel like i should be caring for this episode but for some reason i can't muster the strength to give a fuck about steven's feelings for the 9000th time
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HOMBRES
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It's a happy surprise to watch this boring letdown now, instead of anxiously waiting for it to air on TV.

I'm starting to think I should wait for the season to end, and just ask fans which episodes to skip over, or just binge watch it later.
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You think this is another Steven's Dream situation, where they're going to post the first episode of a bomb to their app or wherever
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>>91171615
>>91171629
i'm waiting for the diamonds to show up.
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>>91171730
After season 1, I've stopped watching the show and have only watched clips that show up on my "Recommended For You" sidebar and have been able to keep up with the entire story thus far doing so.

It's actually quite pathetic how little of the show you need to watch to keep up with discussion considering this show prides itself on continuity and an ongoing narrative.
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>Nora's tape is much more detailed than Steven's
>Probably because Rose wanted a daughter

Kek. Steven wanted to know why hes special, turns out he's not even what his mother originally wanted.
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>>91171615
I was done with the Ronaldo episode honestly. Also what the fuck rofl?
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>>91170284
>His name was gonna be Nora not Stephanie.
WHAT THE FUCK!
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>>91171834
>Not Rebecca
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>>91171821
>Also what the fuck rofl?
You must be 18 or older to post on 4chan.
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Wow it's fucking nothing.
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Cartoon Network literally doesn't care about this show at all. They practically encourage piracy.
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It's my fervent hope that SU is going to follow the same quality arc that Adventure Time did; getting notably shitty in the fourth season and then rocketing back up afterwards.

But what good is hope. What the fuck happened to this show guys? Why did shit just get so BAD all of a sudden?
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>>91171875
Better than the last two eps or TnCG
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>>91171897
Ian left
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>>91171866
>watching SU
>being 18+
xD
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>>91171818
>She's also drawn differently compared to the first tape

Strange indeed!
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>>91171650
I would still get a higher quality by the end of this day to pack it with the rest, but I rather have it sooner than later though.
This >>91171644
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nora thread
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>>91171818
It was just filmed first and Greg cut Rose short in the second one.
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>>91171897
I think it's because we Zoo arc teased a more interesting direction, but we still got boring episodes that aren't worth watching, adding to the fact that we had to wait a week expecting something grand only to get disappointed makes it worse.
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>>91171925
>This trash
>Better than Room for Ruby
Kill yourself my man
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>>91172002
Literally forgot it happened. I meant Rocknaldo and Philanthropist.
But Room for Ruby was way too compressed and practically making fun of how stupid it was.
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>>91171976
nora is the best girl.
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>>91171020
>incoming montage music
>the music that plays isn't montage music

Like, at least give your commentary some substance.
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>>91170747
There always has to be a catch.
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>>91171897
Based on AT's arc it will be more like nosediving after the fourth season, having erratic bursts of quality throughout the 5th and 6th, then it gradually rises to a respectable plateau for the rest of the show.

It seems like SU isn't gonna go on for nearly as long as AT did though, so they better get that quality skyrocket soon.
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>Rose wanted a daughter because she thinks all crystal gems are born female
>making it more inspirational
>Instead it a she ended up with a boy gem
>making it worthless
WEW! LAD!
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If we got Nora would she look like tiny Rose or Greg with a wig
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>>91171340
People don't care where leaks come from now?

I would like to know where it came from.
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>>91170433
He meant that he's a little salty over another shitty SU filler episode.
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>>91170284
Jesus Christ, get a fucking tripod.
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Hey guys look I made Season 4 not be the worst season.
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>>91172098
Why leave Buddy's Book? Did people like that one?
Jamie episodes are always snores.
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>>91172098
Lion 4 was shit.
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Man, I miss season one.
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>>91172114
Lore.
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>>91172114
qt historical gems, duh
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Do we know how many more episodes SU has left? Like have they renewed a certain number of seasons? Because if not I could see them dropping it. Do we know how many episodes are left this season?
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>>91172121
2>1B>3>1A>>4
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>>91172121
Season 1 was great, I loved the early episodes.
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>>91172098
Even with deleting the shit episodes this is still the worst season
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>>91172133
like 4 episodes left
one more season after this
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>>91172122
>>91172126
The lore could have been injected in another way that didn't require them to make a boring episode out of it and the gems were alright but they weren't enough to save the ep, imo.
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>>91172114
Pink Diamond machine was teased
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>>91172098
I actually liked Gem Harvest. It was filler but it had lots of room for all the gems to have room in the spotlight, you never get that with the usual 10 minute episodes.

>>91172114
because lore
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>>91170975
>a literal child with Parkinson's
Maybe he got the tape through the Make A Wish Foundation.
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>>91171877

>Kid walks into the Cartoon Network Headquarters
>"Can i have the new Steven Universe episode please?"
>"Yeah, sure, here you go, you wanna throw rocks at Rebeca Sugar before leaving?"
>"Okay"
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So, was that supposed to be Pink's ship in the desert?
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When did you drop the show?
I did after kindergarten kid
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>>91172187
At this point who gives a shit desu
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>>91172082
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>>91172162
Okay cool. We know how many episodes there'll be next season?

Even if the end isnt great, or even good, I'd like if they can at least give the show a proper ending.
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>>91172242
25
same as every season after the first
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>>91172191
What a slutty Peridot
And yeah for me after Summer of Steven (which I liked well enough) I mostly tuned out. Still a bunch of episodes I haven't watched because I don't care that much. Watched Mindful Education and the zoo arc which were both pretty cool.

Probably gonna be how I handle the rest of the series, once more episodes dealing with Homeworld and shit come out I'll go back to them.
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>>91172143
imagine having taste this bad
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>>91172191
I'll see it through to the end, I don't really like quitting halfway through. It can still be salvaged though, and I'd like it to be.
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>>91172098
Id keep the second episode. It wasnt amazing but it was nice to see two fusions hanging out, and I really dont remember the episode being bad or anything.
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>>91170808
Because EVERYONE IN UGANDA KNOWS KUNG FU
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>>91172191
I've invested way too much to drop the show, But while I wouldn't recommend it to anybody at this point, I don't think it will be completely irredeemable trash going forward
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>>91172318
See I'd recommend it because I really enjoyed s1 and 2 and I think those are way worth it. Even if it isn't as good now.
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I feel like this should have aired before Room for Ruby, since it's a direct continuation of Storm in the Room's themes of having Steven question the reason Rose even made him.
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>>91172316
>Sardonyx episode
>Not complete shit
No
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Kid got the episode from Comcast On Demand. Indicating CN held back airing it abruptly for some reason.
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>>91172273
>>91172318
This, it's not hopeless. This could just be a really rough season. I'm gonna wait until a few episodes into the next to see where that one's going, if it's still season 4 levels I think I'll drop it unless /co/ suddenly explodes with threads praising it later on.
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>>91170872
That was the point. Remember her talking about in Greg the Babysitter how gems have purposes, but humans don't? She was obviously fascinated with the concept
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>>91171818
Of course she wanted a daughter.

How else are the gems supposed to have a lesbian gem leader?

Steven being a boy ruined her plans. Thankfully connie is there to fuse with him to make stevonnie.
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>>91172385
Well, the Zoo arc proved it can still be really good, cause those episodes were great. I honestly feel like theres some kinda issue going on with either the crew or CN cause it feels like ping ponging back and forth.

also Jasper when
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>>91172382
Maybe they decided a bomb would be better?
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Why is this show so segregated? We get four types:
-Crystal Gems and Steven only.
-Barn gems only.
-Town people only.
- Connie or Lion only.

Why do these things never overlap? Such obnoxiously bad writing.
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God, this turd of a series needs to be flushed once and for all.
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Another episode where nothing fucking happens, I dont get why people still think this season or show is redeemable

What you would've done differently with the premise?
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that was fucking pointless and i usually have little issue with SU as a whole. What was even the point of this episode? for steven to just cry more about his dead mom?
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I don't know if I should be impressed or furious that these hack writers actually went and made a Lion episode about fucking nothing.
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yfs season 4 of steven universe
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>>91172519
Steven actually fucking finds something.
Or the chest opens.

Scrap the entire Nora video tape concept.
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>>91172519
See:
>>91172480

Not isolate episode types. Have all characters get to know each other, with action, not mundane SoL episodes.
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>>91172345
Rose's scabbard still upholds the title of best episode for me and that was in season 1
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>>91171662
please apologize to your father and go to college. Your horrible channel needs to die.
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>>91170284
>bait it I say
I'm suspicious
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>Got into watching Steven Universe
>Legally downloaded season 1 I went on a website once and got a virus
>Then my fucking PC starts getting blue screens constantly even after I sent it to two repair guys
>MFW all I had to do was update the mobo bios, set the profile to xmp, and uninstall the samsung magician
>MFW I've spent nearly over a thousand dollary doos on three different motherboards and on repairs.
>Its also now almost taken me a year to get this done

I truly am the biggest retard in the world /co/. I should have just bought a prebuilt computer but I dunno, they told me it was fucking easy.
I'm just happy now that I can go on 4chan again instead of my phone and talk to you guys and watch Steven Universe.
I hope to god though it doesn't fucking BSOD on me while I'm typing this.
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>>91172519
start over from the end of season 1a
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>>91172600
are you saying you got a virus for downloading the episodes from an official source, or you fucked up your comp in an unrelated matter?
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>>91170284
>nigga can't keep the camera steady for like 3 seconds

holy shit
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Bless you OP, I was looking for this
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>>91171383
>We saw what's blatantly Pink Diamond's ship


Can somebody post a screenshot so I don't have to sit through a shitty low-quality leak to find it?
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>>91172480
Because they don't want to pay many VAs per episode.Yes they are jews
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>>91172671
Dude he's 9
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>>91171538
Thanks, anon.
I don't have it in me to keep watching this shit anymore
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The other 3 Lion episodes were in Top Tier, but this was in SHIT tier.

What the fuck.
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>>91170723
That's the episode

Anyways we have a canon fem Steven name now how about that!
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>steven gets blue balled the episode
im gonna have a fuckin aneurysm over this show
i feel like im in a fucking chastity cage

this actual pisses me off
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seems like steven cry's more then usual in every episode. i swear this show dont know how to convey emotions without crying
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>>91172781
It wasn't shit tier christ. It's above average for S4. Lion 2 is the worst one.
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>>91172661
Nah, I tried streaming it online, its the virus where it says you gotta virus and you gotta contact some fucking scammer Indian tech guys to give em money so they can fix it.
Had to reinstall windows.
Nah I didn't fuck up the comp, its worse than that.
Basically got a friend to build it for me, started fucking up, sent it to a repair guy, he fucked it up, sent it to another repair guy, was still fucked until I fixed it, which was probably what I should have done for the first motherboard
At least I got my money back on the first motherboard, which is strange cause was it actually broken then or did they not even update the bios?
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THE NEXT 5 EPISODES NEED TO BE A BOMB
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>>91171162
That's what I thought!!
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>>91172811
3>1>2>4
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>>91172811
Well, if not shit, it was in very low mediocre.

It's just really fucking frustrating to go on hiatus all the fucking time and when we come back we get shitty SoL stories.
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>>91172133
IIRC, the show was planned for 150 episodes tops, with each season originally comprised of 50 episodes until CN decided to split them further. So now we're 124 down, 26 to go.

Reminder that CN announced new episodes of SU in their upfront, but nothing about a new season order.
http://deadline.com/2017/03/cartoon-network-2017-2018-programming-slate-six-new-returning-series-upfronts-1202054922/
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>>91172742
Fuck him and his stupid ass commentary
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>>91172839
Why do you prefer a Connie episode to Steven trying to learn about his mom?
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>>91172519
Have it open the damn chest. And if that's not possible, then at least use it to contribute SOMETHING interesting.

To me the title 'alternate ending' implies a grand vision of the differences if something hadn't happened, like Steven accidentally slipping into a world where the CGs had lost and he'd never been born. "durr hurr did you know babies can be born DIFFERENT GENDERS so we made two videos" isn't even really an alternate ending because they don't SHOW us anything about what would happen if there was a 'Nora' instead of a 'Steven'.
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>>91172852
>when you thought it was the key to the chest
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>>91172854
neither.
I want the gems exploring some ruins and fighting a monster
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>>91171781
Yeah, they will show up after 5-6 episodes of Steven crying, 1-2 episodes of some gem having emotional issues and at least 3-4 episodes of human townies doing completely monotonous shit.

This show is dead to me
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>>91172854
because steven didn't learn jack dick about anything in this episode
in 2 he found his mom's armory and fought a gem sentry robot, that's way better than a tape he's already seen
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>>91172849
>planned
There were 156 episodes that we know that have been ordered for production. We'll probably find out if there have been more seasons ordered when season 5 starts.
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>>91172371
Its no more shit than your tastes and opinions anon
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>>91172854
Lion 2 was fun. I thought Lion 4 was boring. Pretty simple.
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>>91172878
>get ready for montage music
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>>91171662
Don't insult my little theory boy :(
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WHERE'S THE GEM WAR!
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>>91171897
>What the fuck happened to this show guys? Why did shit just get so BAD all of a sudden?

Sugar gives literally 0 shits about this show anymore and leaves all the work to the incompetent storyboarders that make up the staff and the one handed animators that can't keep up with proportions and proper movement
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>>91171897
AT never got as bad as this. I think it's beyond saving honestly.
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When that kid said "when you thought it was for the chest" I think i died alittle inside

why is everything so hidden in this fuckin show
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>>91172913
War? That's a bad word, this show is all about singing and crying while befriending your enemies
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>>91172382
>they went into hiatus last minute for no fucking reason
>Teen Titans go still on every timeslot
>mfw they are actively withholding some god damn closure so I can have some fucking closure
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>it's an episode where steven cries
just what this series was lacking
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>>91170284
I'm not watching the leak.

Is it actually shit or is it just /sug/ being whiny about The Latest Episode like they always do?

I remember when you fuckers said Bismuth was shit.
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>>91172098
>Last one out of Beach City
>good

>Lion 4
>not one of the worst episodes this season
Needs work
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>>91172907

But he's a dumb twat with an annoying fucking voice. YOU SHOULDN'T TRY TO HOLD SERIOUS DISCUSSION IF YOU CAN'T SAY THE WORD "EARTH" CORRECTLY.
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You know, i think this was literally made to piss off the fanbase
Lets compare
Steven wants to know his destiny
We want plot and lore.
Steven finds an important looking key, which usually leads to answers
We associate Lion with plot development
Lion leads Steven to Rose's garbage dump
Sugar gives us a garbage episode
Steven realizes he doesn't have a magical destiny and is ok with this because he's having fun.
We realize that we will never get answers but that's ok because Samurai Jack airs in 2 days and its heaps better anyway
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>>91172953
>I remember when you fuckers said Bismuth was shit.
anon...
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>>91172960
Just because you can't waifu the alt girl doesn't mean it's a bad episode.
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>>91172953
Literally nothing happens, Lion gives Steven a key to Rose's junkyard, he finds an alternate tape from Rose labeled "Nora"

Nora is what Steven would have been named if he was a girl.

Basically all we learned is what gender bent Steven would be named
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>>91172953
It's a pretty shitty leak
shaky camera, some little fat kid who has it for some reason talking over it at points
generally kinda hard to make out
so really I only got the gist of what the episode is about
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>>91172960
You have to watch those episodes for plot though.
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>>91172953
Anon posted a summary but yeah its kinda garbo. Its gem filler, sadly. I guess its more Rose, which is nice? But its literally another misunderstanding no explanation no curiosity episode again.
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>>91172987
We also saw not-confirmed but probably is Pink Diamond's ship
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>>91172191
The New Crystal Gems

Fucking shit episode
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>>91172953
it's a fine introspective episode on Steven and his search for meaning in his life.

Not a big PLOT episode, mind you.
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>>91172854
Stuff happened in that Connie episode
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>>91172953
nothing happens at all. its not even a fun filler.
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>>91172191
Lion 4.
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Lion 4 was going to be the episode that made or broke the series for me,

It broke it.
So until further notice I'm not going to be watching this show anymore.
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>>91172963
But he is cute and energetic and I love him
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>>91173014
>it's a fine introspective episode on Steven and his search for meaning in his life.
So it's like Storm in the Room? Because Storm in the Room was great.

>>91173020
See I don't trust some of you people's definition of "nothing happens". New Crystal Gems, there's an episode where nothing happens. But to hear you guys talk every episode is New Crystal Gems these days.
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>>91172953

It's less that the episode is shit, and more that the episode is not only pointless but also retreads ground that was already done way way way better in Lion 2: Straight to Video.

I mean, I fucking love Steven Universe. It's my favorite show right now. But holy shit, even I'M getting blueballs from this horseshit.
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>>91172987
Still good fanfic and porn information

> I want to cum to (18+) Nora
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>>91170284
>summary of the episode
>pic related

i can't stand this shit show
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>>91173084
>Fanfic and porn information

I wish. This fandom is full of prudes, won't do anything with Steven, doubt they'll do anything with Nora
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>>91173057

He's not cute, he's not energetic, and you have shit taste.
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>>91172953
It's shit and nothing happens. Watch it, you won't miss a thing
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>>91173068
It's a less intense Storm in the Room and and more aptly comparable to Lion 3.
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>>91170872
This.

Also, this. >>91170896

Status quo preserved. Steven was freaking out over nothing.
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>>91173133
Oh, Lion 3 was the best one.

>>91170872
There was a lot of people who had doubts about that and thought even the first video was just manipulation though.
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>>91172162
The ending's going to be rushed as fuck, isn't it?

They should honestly spend the entirely of the 5th season progressing the plot rather than more SoL.
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>>91172975

>Let's piss off the people that like this show
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>>91173205
EAT YOUR TOWNIE EPISODES PROFESSOR
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>>91173205
entirety*
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post pictures or gifs that represent this episode

ill start
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>>91172882
anymore comics from this artist?
i remember some funny
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>>91173110
Why do the horses fuckers get more porn then us
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>>91173205
>The ending's going to be rushed as fuck, isn't it?
You bet
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>>91173115
:( you make me a sad panda

You have his snapchat he allways is so cool on his story's

I love him and your taste is the shitty one if you can't see how awesome he is
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>>91173255
They have their priorities straight unlike this faggot fanbase
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>>91172098
They should just make Connie a regular at this point. She actively makes every episode better.
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>>91173255
Because they are still the #1 source of autism in the observable universe, and autism can be fruitful
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>>91173001
>I guess its more Rose, which is nice?
The entire season seems to be about Steven trying to understand Rose, we're just going to have to ride it out.
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>>91172162
We don't know if we're only getting one more. We don't even know if we're getting more at all.
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>>91173205
Expect lots of important questions to go unanswered because Sugar thought having meaningless townie episodes after Season 1 was a good idea

It's punishment for her but we suffer as well
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>>91173284
True they caused enough of a fuss to get there own place here
>>91173298
HEy were pretty autistic ourself

I really do want more Steven universe fandom stuff
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>>91172098
Its more of a cast the filler episodes have been really bad

and I hate to say it but the bomb format works

honestly its fairly nice ep, finding out he isn't gem Jesus or Rose made him for as a weapon would be a huge stress reflect

>>91172242
25

however I do think it was renew for a season 6 at least

>>91172191
i'm sure season 5 will bounce back
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>>91172480
Only so much you can do in 10 minutes.
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>>91173324
>Expect lots of important questions to go unanswered
Like what

If anything it seems like we're getting nothing BUT questions answered, even the really miniscule unimportant ones like "What if Steven was a girl"
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>>91173283

Shut the fuck up, Kev. Don't you have another godawful Roudtable "theory" video to stammer through?

PLANNIT URF
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>>91173110
>do anything with Steven
Maybe because he's an ugly fat fuck that would ruin the porn he's in?
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>>91170284
HOLY SHIT THE CHEST.
HOLY SHIT STEVEN HAS A SISTER

Lol nvmd season 4 still being shit.
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>>91172953
Pretty bad, and I like Steven so I'm less judgemental if waifus aren't in the episode. It's Storm in the Room tier.

That was the biggest disappointment ever. Surely there's more importance to that location rather than just another trash dump, but they couldn't even bother to just focus on the new location, and would rather have a poor attempt at feels.
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>>91173367
I'm just a fan of them I don't know why there's so much hate
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>>91173396
I have seen Steven look good older as like a daddy of kinds?
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I'm nearly shocked the female name isn't Rebecca at this point
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>>91173396
should have been an anime
they love putting ugly fat fucks in their porn
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>>91173430
Oh and sorry for my otp

Lars x Steven forever
Or.... Stars!!!!
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>>91173405
>It's Storm in the Room tier.
Storm in the Room is good though.

If I like Storm in the Room I'll like this? Is this what I should be getting out of the constant comparisons to that episode?
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>make a show about a human/alien hybrid with superhuman powers, a trio of alien warrior caretakers and pet lion with FTL travel powers
>all of which are in a rebellion against an advanced interstellar alien empire

>spend 70% of the show focusing on the emotional issues of a 14-year old boy and his days out with his human friends
>spend the other 30% advancing the already scarce story at snail's pace

Ok /co/ I dare you to name ONE show that has more wasted potential than this
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>>91173475
I can't and cute bird
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>>91173312
>we're just going to have to ride it out

Cool. So next season after the prerequisite townie episodes, go-nowhere bullshit, and hamfisted emotional tripe, we'll have a good 4 or five episodes for White Diamond to be introduced and then all three Diamonds defeated by a combination of singing, crying, and the magic of friendship.

How delightful.
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why does steven cry so much now
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>>91173475
Not sure. I mean I think Korra was a piece of shit but it at least tried, and to me Adventure Time has made lots of missteps but has had just as many things done right to counteract the fuck ups.

SU is just losing me more and more as time goes on.
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>>91172427
Well knowing some bit about animation, since they were order two seasons they were giving the money for both, so rather than slip it even they added more to season 5

that's why we get episodes like lion 4 or onion gang and storm in the room with one VA, they're what are called bottle episodes, ones design to save money for other episode, clearly not pulling effort into the filters (you see this in anime too)

I wouldn't be shocked if the slipt was 30% for season 4 and 70% for season five
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>>91173475
clone high school
i don't think its the name but the plot was historical figures as teens in highschool
i think it was an mtv thing
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CN doesn't like this show. Or they're just that incompetent
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>>91173500
Well I was assuming it'll be more like season 3.
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>>91173538
clone high
it dropped after the first season because gandhi was in it and shitskinners got trigged about it
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Not sure what I was expecting really.
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>>91173508
Because he's an retarded emotionally
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>>91173508
>now
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>>91173475
>Ok /co/ I dare you to name ONE show that has more wasted potential than this

Stormhawks.
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>>91173538
Nah
Clone High didn't have a single bad episode and all of the historic characters were played perfectly according to their original representation

I'm still mad, and 50% of my hate for India stems from it's cancellation
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>>91172550
I thought we we're getting into something good with the first episode being Steven and Peridot going monster hunting.

But outside of the Bomb it's been nothing but filler. It feels like the show was renewed for a sixth season and now they need to stall for time.
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>>91173564

Not unless you have a time machine, it won't.
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>>91172802
Sure they do. They have 3 ways of emoting:
1. Singing
2. Crying
3. Singing while crying

Also, where should I hang this big goddamned lampshade?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKedxDS3i98
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>>91173471
Maybe?

It's pretty similar with Steven being pissed at his mom and himself, then getting over it and being happy because family.
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Was there a throwaway line about Nora earlier in the series? The name sounds so damn familiar for some reason.
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>>91170284
Hm. Not a giant reveal, but what could you expect, really?
This episode confirmed many things, though.
Steven has not forgotten anything, neither has the crew. They are well aware of the secrets they seeded.
Steven feels that he has to do something, become something, be worthy of his mother. But he just doesn’t know what or how.
Rose had someone plant the tape after Steven's birth or planted it late into the pregnancy when they knew he would be a boy.
Lion is doing this shit deliberately and is being a dick about the dripfeed for shits and giggles.

I think this is a setup for Steven finding his answer in the form of Homeworld returning or something like that. That will be the (mid-)season finale.
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>video removed by user

Anyone make a mirror?
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>>91173644
That might be the case. Season 4 doesn't really have any kind of focus, and while S3 only got intense towards the end that's because it was the second half of the original season 2.

Speaking of S2, that at least had arcs going on. I know Ian was most likely a factor in its quality, but still I hope things will pick up from Season 5 onwards.
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>>91173471
>Storm in the Room is good though.
>mfw

>If I like Storm in the Room I'll like this?

Yeah...

Yeah, you will, go watch it
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That bitch went to a hell of a lot of trouble to throw a out a perfectly good vhs tape.
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>>91173701
seconded this is a need
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>>91173691
Nora is a character on RWBY. Not sure if there's others.
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>>91170284
>Watching halfway through when
'this video has been removed by the user'
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>>91173693
>Lion is doing this shit deliberately and is being a dick about the dripfeed for shits and giggles.

>Lion really is made from Pink Diamond's shards
>he has a good portion of her consciousness
>he's doing all this shit just to fuck with Steven's head as one final "fuck you" to Rose Quartz

I'd buy that for a dollar.
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>>91173691
This one, maybe?
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JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

JUST HOW MANY EPISODES ABOUT "JUST B YOURSELF" DO WE HAVE?
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Wonder if this means the actual episode is coming soon. You have to wonder how this random person got a hold of it otherwise.
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>>91170284
It's no longer there.
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https://www.youtube.com/results?q=steve+universe+lion+4&sp=CAI%253D

people are uploading the kid's video again.

A god damn shame no one else has a better version yet.
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>>91173750
>Lion really is made from Pink Diamond's sharts
I've really gotta stop skimming posts. They always come through weird in my mind.
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>>91173750
I like it ill have a couple if thats ok
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>>91173740
And here's the mirror.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzoqlqTNMXr5bzR5OXUtWml0NVU/view?usp=sharing
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>>91173770
It's not the first time. There was that other time when some Brazilian kid got one of the Steven Bombs early. The kid's probably related to some staff member who lets him watch them early.
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>>91173740
>https://www.youtube.com/results?q=steve+universe+lion+4&sp=CAI%253D

Know this is about steven right now but
DICKS OUT TILL RICKS OUT
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>>91173750
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What a boring episode
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>>91170284
>Steven's destiny is a trash heap
Sounds about right.
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>>91173471
I liked Storm in the Room too but Lion 4 felt like a total waste of time to me. At least Storm in the Room was confronting something between Rose and Steven that felt like it had been building up for a while. Where in the hell was the question "what is Steven's girl name" ever proposed or considered a major need to the plot?

I mean, you might like it, since its the same kind of emotional based Steven-Rose shit as Storm in the Room but its definitely a few pegs down from Storm in the Room.
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>>91173750
Well, we have seen Lion eat Steven's sushi-ish thingies in the short, so there is precedent that he will eat small objects compulsively.
Maybe he ate the shards and got infected like Frybo, gaining his powers but retaining general control while PD tries to steer Steven towards something with only limited influence and fractured conscience.
This would explain the erratic behavior of Lion. It's actually a big, lazy cat wrestling with a shattered Diamond for control.
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>>91173691
>>91173732
My Life as a Teenage Robot,Jenny's mom
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>>91173904
>Steven's destiny is a trash heap
So is the show's
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>>91173924
ah i use to love that show
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>>91170284
I don't know why everyone is acting like the show is now going downhill, it is the same quality it has always been, fairly bad but with occasionally some interesting things happening with the homeworld gems or the history of the crystal games.

Like this is the straw that broke the camels back? And not all of those terrible episodes about the retards in Beach City?
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>>91173841
Given the kid talked over it, I wouldn't be surprised if they could track who the parents were. Hope they don't get fired over it.
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BOY I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE WHAT THESE 2 RETARDS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS EPISODE
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>>91173905
it felt like a pointless followup to storm in the room, steven alone talking to himself is really fucking boring, and we've now had 2 episodes like this.
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>new episode leaks
>in horrendous, nearly unwatchable quality
>with the wonderful commentary of a fat little white kid

at least the episode was pretty inconsequential, but I really would have liked to see this in better quality. Rose's appearances are generally given more care. Do the usual leakers know about this yet? Does anyone with Comcast/Xfinity on Demand see if the episode is still there?
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>>91173973
It's a weird thing that's slowly crept up during Season 4 which is understandable due to the quality of the season. Maybe I'm just blinkered, but I saw the same amount of praise and criticism everywhere I went until I started browsing /co/ where it can swing wildly in either direction for the slightest thing.
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>>91173841
?? which episode.

I remember a short little clip of Pearl in Maximum Capacity uploaded in spanish(?)
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>>91173944
I would have called you a faggot a year ago
I can't do that if you're right now
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>>91174013
No luck, anon.
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>>91173987
i hate em
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>>91174049
You would have been wrong then too.
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Connie should've been in this episode. Would've given the episode something
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>>91173987
Figures these fagoloids like this show.
>>
I remember a funny term from a video I saw regarding why people may like a supposedly subpar story in objective terms. They're unable to let go of a series due to stockholm syndrome of sorts, where they're already in too deep that they have to convince themselves it's worth staying in spite of what others may see.
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>>91173396
Steven legit turns into a nice looking adult, though.
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>>91174128
connie is shite m8
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>>91174128
She was busy shitting in the street.
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>>91174023
I've been seeing mostly negative buzz about the show recently, I don't see why, the show is just in another one of its doldrums and will probably pick back up with a glimmer of something people actually want to see.
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>>91173973

This one was different somehow. Like Sugar was saying this show will never be what you want it to for the last time.

No big space war.
No epic story.
No destiny.

Just an awkward fat kid trying to get by and make the best of what his mom left him.
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>>91174041
I wanna say it was the entire Week of Sardonyx, but Steven Universe gets leaked early so damn often that I'm not certain. I just remember that they were called the Brazilian Leaks (even though I think the kid ultimately turned out to live in Flordia).
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>>91174150
omg yes!!
>>
Fucck yes, i needed this to live
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>>91174176
It's always the same people. People get annoyed with the slow pacing etc. (rightfully so, not trying to dismiss valid criticisms) and then when we get a good stretch of episodes most people turn around. Just the way of things really, not something exclusive to SU.
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>>91174253
Same people? Same way. Don't drink and post on /co/ I guess
>>
Wait, so is hoarding things a Quartz tendency, since Rose has her own trash heap just like Amethyst?
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>>91174314
Rose and Greg really WERE made for each other!
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>>91174314
>just like amethyst
I'm guessing Amethyst picked that up from Rose.

It's cute that they have something in common like that.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWg68hM8fQ0&feature=youtu.be
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>>91174353
>5:40
Is that a... jojo reference?
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>>91174314
>Steven keeps connie and the townies around

I guess it is
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>>91174193
Then why should we even watch it? No one wants the moral bullshit anymore. We want story and character development.
How hard is it to make Lapis interesting?
How hard is it to make Garnet not a walking talking explanation for love and fusion?
HOW HARD IS IT TO MAKE PERIDOT NOT ACT OR LOOK LIKE A FUCKING RETARD IN ONE EPISODE?!
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>>91174176
it was even confirmed today that the show will cover what people want.
http://www.newsarama.com/33804-ben-10-reboot-5-new-shows-lead-cartoon-network-s-2017-18-line-up.html

The show returns with new adventurous story arcs and specials, in which fans will meet more Gems, spend time with the Diamonds and gain insight into the ever-mysterious Gem Homeworld while the series’ titular hero Steven Universe will grow as a leader.
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>>91174417
>meet more Gems
They'd better fucking introduce Emerald in the next few episodes or next season I swear to fuck.
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>>91174459
The chaos emeralds?
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>>91174459
oh joy, I can't wait for the pokemon edits

I hope if we ever see Emerald it's just the shattered remains of one so we never get an actual character design.
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>It's another episode of Steven talking to himself with his annoying voice.
Fuck, I hate these episodes. Is there any show that overuses it as much as SU?
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>>91174417
I don't know why they didn't focus on the gem stuff from the start. Why would anyone care about the Beach City or "Steven cries" stuff over the whole spacefaring race of holographic gems?
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>>91174459
>>91174500
>It's a gag about Lion stepping on his pokemon game
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>>91174500
Are you actually autistic? Oh no, not Pokemon edits.
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>>91174150
This fandom likes lesbians.

It's not going to use Bara steven
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>>91174583
you don't know what that word means
>>
Did anyone save the better quality version?
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>>91174628
Pokemon?
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>>91174628
>Getting so mad at the potential of some online fan bullshit that you hope a character never shows up.
I hope the word you're thinking of is "edits".
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>>91174631
It's nonexistent outside of the kid's On Demand service.
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>>91174417

Yeah, not buying it, Crewniverse.
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>>91170284
I'm convinced that Steven is not the person who will save everyone. Not without the whole thing being garbage for it anyway. Aside from the mix of powers he inherited which is no big deal considering what we have seen. Really the best way to "fix everything" is for Pink Diamond pulling a Rose stunt before Rose did what she did and brought Steven to life. There has to be an antithesis to Steven so as to show the conflict between two similar beings who hold a different view of the Earth which would probably be similar to the way Pink Diamond and Rose would have had.
Then after a brief battle, a realization would come from Pin Diamond's son that he doesn't have to be his mom and that Steven is not his mom either.
This way you get a redemption of a diamond who will be the basis of the redemption of the other diamonds because he will still be a diamond and the Earth will technically be his.
Not only that, but the diamonds or possibly just pink diamond's son will be the main reason the other corrupted gems could be healed.
You could say that the way Steven is, is what allowed everything to come together, but he certainly is no bad ass hero who will save the day.
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>>91173767
Until Steven feels like he can be himself instead of what Rose or the Gems or whoever want him to be. Remember his line in the extended theme song?
>I will fight to be everything that everybody wants me to be when I'm grown
They've been seeding this shit for a while now, and hell if they're extra clever, they can tie that into Steven's arrested development, that he's stagnating at his current age because he doesn't feel like he can grow to the expectations of the gems.
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>>91174067
i hate their shit opinions too, but i always crawlin back for more cuz they're the only youtubers i can tolerate that actually talk about our shitty childrens cartoon
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>>91174673
oh, I see. I'm not good at sarcasm, then.
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>>91174417

1- CN is always bullshiting people

2- That description could fit season 4 perfectly and look at what we got

Im not trying to be a doomsayer but try to not to get too hyped about it, or at all
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>>91174495
>An hour special about finding the 4th one
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>>91174684
I'm convinced Connie or Greg will end up saving the universe at the end of the day and Steven will play support.
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>>91171538
>Steven come to the conclusion that his magical destiny is being Rose's Kid and he's O-K with that. Oh and he cries the entire time this happens.
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I miss Pearl.
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>>91174417
Now this is advanced shilling
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>>91173818
>>91170284
>>91174353

that was boring as shit
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>>91174996
It was fine until the ending. That is what killed it.
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>>91174193
I'm okay with this.

There are a billion other stories out there that do the conventional hero's journey/space opera stuff.
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So what did you think Rose created Steven for before this letdown?

I used to think she made him to fix the gem corruption by fixing their broken minds using his telepathy.
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>>91172191
Room for Ruby for me

It was already going downhill but I kept thinking things would get better, but room for ruby was just the worst one out of them all, and i thought things wouldn't get worse than rocknaldo
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>>91175039

Do you have a rec list handy?
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>>91175055
As she said: To experience the human condition.
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>>91170284
How many times have Steven cried? I lost count.
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>>91172907
>this
He's an asshole and worst su youtuber at least aj universe make some work on his videos
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>>91170747
I thought you were talking about Steven at first

Lol
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>>91175055
To replace the Diamonds as ruler of Homeworld
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>>91175109
How many episodes are there?
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This show needs an end date so the pacing stops being shit, the scedule makes it even worse. They have a nice story and characters but holy shit my love for this show keeps fading away
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TL;DR Matt and Ben no longer work on SU
>Cartoon Network on Thursday unveiled what it's calling a "holistic slate of content" for 2017-18 as part of its upfront presentation to advertisers.
On the new slate are six new series, seven returning shows and more than 20 original mobile games and consoles.

>Christina Miller, president of Cartoon Network, Adult Swim and Boomerang, said the network's strategy aims to incorporate all platforms from the beginning of the development process.

>"The strategy of our entire business is really about being multiscreen and multiplatform by design," Miller said. "It's about building immersive experiences, end to end, for our audiences. We don't just create shows; we create worlds. From the beginning, we look at: What is the mobile experience, what is the long-form experience, is there short-form [content] or a game, and if we can do a game, is it for mobile, is it console? We no longer think about single platforms, and we never just cut up the same episode and push it onto multiple platforms. We've moved beyond that."
Among the shows on the network's slate that have mobile/console game/app components are the recently rebooted The Powerpuff Girls, for which toy-videogame hybrid Lego Dimensions has partnered to add to its roster a new Team Pack and Fun Pack, along with a separate mobile game, "Glitch Fixers," that features the characters; recently greenlighted series OK K.O.! Let's Be Heroes, which featured an action brawler console game with RPG elements; and Ben 10, the newest series in the long-running franchise.

1/2
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>>91175177

>Meanwhile, Cartoon Network also announced several new series and specials Thursday as part of its effort to increase its original content across all platforms as it continues to target kids 4-14 with a particular focus on 6- to 11-year-olds.
The new series include Apple & Onion, which centers on two lovable buddies who are new and naive to the ways of the "big city of sophisticated food" as they go on adventures and make friends. The comedy was created by George Gendi (The Amazing World of Gumball).

>Craig of the Creek, another new series, is set in a kid utopia of untamed wilderness where Craig and his two best friends have ventured and tribes of children reign over tree forts and dirt bike ramps. The adventure series was created by Ben Levin and Matt Burnett, formerly of Steven Universe.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/cartoon-network-greenlights-two-new-series-as-part-holistic-multiplatform-slate-989791

2/2
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>>91175177
What a shit show.
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did anyone else spot the Jasper comin bakc foreshadowing
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>>91175055
use his magical half-gem sperm to create a new race of hybrids
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>>91175103

>believing anything a defective mother murdering rose quartz says
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Welp, panic time.

This will improve or ruin the future season?
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>>91175177
Their jobs writing for SU are complete because the show is ending at season 6. They aren't going to hire two new head writers or whatever people think is going to happen.
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>>91175217
No, but go ahead.
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>>91175235
The show is already at the point of no return
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>>91170872
How much you wanna bet the "keikaku" plot was just aborted cause Sugar got lazy but only changed the last bit of the encounter with Steven with Rose making it awkward, like she was gonna have to full Vector Betrayal or something.
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>>91175235
Zuke and Burnett were the only crew members I had any actual distaste for, so SU is fully purged now I guess.
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>>91171538
wow really thats sucks dick
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>>91171538
Wow, Sugar surely makes Trey and Matt like people who can make big payoffs of continuity and development.

I mean WOW.
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>>91170284
What was the video of?
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Did anyone download the ep? I missed it.
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>>91173367

This is actually me, and I'll have you know my dumbass legit got roasted into watching a video on how to pronounce Earth last night.

No seriously, my life is that sad.

>>91171662
>>91172582

kek

Anyways the episode was uploaded on a Canadian on demand service, interviewed the kid who watched the episode and said it was up last night and he uploaded it this morning since he noticed no one else did.

Alright, off to stammer through more theories, just wanted to keep y'all in the loop.
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>>91175444
A potato recording the new episode.

With a really shitty camera too.
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>>91175477
Tons of mirrors are in the thread.
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What the fuck even is this show any more?
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>>91170284
So, crossover with kingdom hearts when?
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>>91175482
>Canada

A FUCKING LEAF STRIKES AGAIN.
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>>91173987

Do those assholes even do SU vlogs any more?

I stopped watching because they kinda stopped talking about the actual episodes in each vlog and I didn't care to listen to them yap about unrelated horseshit. Plus Doug is pretty much completely incapable of detecting any sort of subtext and can't comprehend meaning in anything outside of Animaniacs.

...then SU kinda started to suck a little so I kinda gave up on giving a shit.
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So I haven't watched older episodes in a while and I don't care all too much about watching this episode, but did Rose know that she would die when giving birth to Steven? So did she just have a kid with Greg because she loved Greg and wanted to and that's about the short and long of it?
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>>91174495
Considering all the shout-outs in SU, if the Rubies didn't exist I could see a "Beryl Squad" made up of seven different kinds of beryls(emeralds are what green beryls are called)
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>>91175608
she knew she was going to die
she saids it in the type
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>>91171538
i suppose ill stop watching SU until the next bomb, it seems fuckall happens in this show unless is a steven bomb
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>>91171538

It's fascinating how inconsistent this show is. Some episodes are great while there are others so bad that make me question why I watch this shit.
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>>91175645
Did she know that before getting knocked up?
I wonder how she knew.
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>>91175673
>discovering another plot hole
what are the odds
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>>91175650
Basically what I'm doing. Watched the zoo arc, thought it was awesome as hell, then stopped keeping up with it. Once it gets back to interesting adventures I'll start getting invested again.
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Didn't Rebecca say that she envisioned this show as a 150 episode show?

Season 5 needs to be nothing but Lion 3 level episodes if we want to get anywhere.
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>>91175717
Honestly I've forgotten so much of the lore I can't even tell if this is a plot hole or not
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> we see pink diamond's ship
> it's legs
> nobody cares
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>>91175608
Yep. It sounds like a nice episode imo but the pacing is so bad for this show.
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>>91175775
Could be bent fingers too, those ships are fucking massive.
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>>91172743
No one was forcing you to begin with.
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>>91175775
the quality is too low to analyze it at the moment when it goes on air or a better version is leaked then we can speculate more on it

but for now we just have the plot
i wish we had more then that
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>>91172191
Rocknaldo and even before that I was getting sick of this show's lack of action and interesting conflict and was thinking of dropping it.
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>>91175717
>>91175771
It's not. We just don't know how she knew. But we never had a reason to think she didn't know.
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>>91175775
Why are the ships limbs in the first place? Are they based off these things from TTGL?
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>>91175775
>>91175829
ITS HER HAND SHIP
LIKE BD'S AND YD'S
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>>91175885
It kind of makes sense that a race of manufactured people would manufacture their things to also look like people.
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>>91174193
>Like Sugar was saying this show will never be what you want it to for the last time.

Then Sugar should never have introduced INTERESTING FUCKING STORY ELEMENTS.

If the show was still like it was in Season 1, nobody would be fucking saying SHIT. Monster of the week, some emotional drama, townie episodes. It was a good formula, it worked, it was comfy as shit and everyone loved it.

But you can't go from that to having planet-destroying zombie clusters and a fucking intergalactic Modron empire that wants to rape you to death, because that's shit you ACTUALLY HAVE TO ADDRESS. You can't show us Space Stalin and tell us how horny he is for Earth's demise and then fucking forget about him for seasons at a time.

"Oh, Steven, did you have fun going to the library and pretending to be a fortune telling robot and learning that your buddy Lars is an irredeemable prick for the sixth time? That's good! Hey, you remember those alien gods? You remember how the only reason they haven't come down here and fucked us all individually in the ass until we die from massive internal bleeding and pissed on our broken, mangled corpses is that they think this whole fucking planet is seconds away from exploding in a violent hellstorm of death and pain? Well, put that out of your mind and go cry or fart showtunes or talk to a tertiary character's best friend's uncle's cousin's landlady about Cookie Cats!"

Fuck.
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>>91173010
Same. I'll catch up eventually, but I couldn't take it after that episode. The show was finally starting to take an interesting direction after that bomb, but then The New Crystal Gems showed that all that's wrong with the show is alive and well. Such a disappointment.
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>>91170844
I believe the word you're looking for is "filler".
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this show is doing what Adventure Time was doing to me im really close to doping the show
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>>91175235
>Apple and Onion is getting a show
>Forever 12 and Infinity train aren't
HOMICIDE!
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>>91175775
It's two ships. They're women wearing dresses sticking their asses out.
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I watch Steven Universe but usually stay out of the threads, though this growing unrest has me interested

When did people start getting sick of the show? After the Summer of Steven? What triggered it, just the slew of boring filler/townie episodes? Has it ever been like this in past years?
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>>91175775
>nobody cares

Why should anyone care?

All the "Hints of things to come" either lead nowhere or were anticlimatic shit, the last fucking thing this show needs is EVEN MORE build up
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>>91173241
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>>91175775
HOLY FUCK
>Steven "penetrating" that vaginally located door with his key and going inside
>The womb of the giant diamond power ranger mech is literally full of junk
PINK DIAMOND CONFIRMED FOR SLUT
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>>91176148
in season three the writing went downhill and in season four the entertainment went downhill
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>>91176148
I was starting to get sick of its bullshit around the time Gem Drill / Super Watermelon Island aired.

They swept both the Cluster and Malachite arc under the rug in 2 episodes, in a very lazy way to.

I didn't consider dropping the show until Rocknaldo aired though...
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>>91176148
This is generally the attitude people have when the show is in a slump which happens basically every season but is particularly prolonged in this season because the scheduling is more fucked than it has ever been.
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>>91176212
Has it ever gotten to this level before? This seems like a big portion of the fanbase is really pissed and tired of this shit.
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>>91176148
This past 3 months or so. There's always been criticism, but the lack of new developments and the constant stream of critics caught up and now criticizing the show has become trendy to an extent.
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Every episode since they got back from space has been shit
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I feel like this episode was a parody of the show itself
>interesting title and premise
>its actually the most dissapointing and pointless shit ever
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>>91175943
Exactly! There's only so many times Greg and the gems can say "don't worry about it"

YEAH SURE LET'S NOT WORRY ABOUT YELLOW DIAMOND COMING DOWN TO EARTH AND FUCKING SHIT UP AFTER SHE FINDS OUT WHAT PERIDOT AND STEVEN DID TO THE CORE.

JFC I was really getting into the show after the crazy gem fusion mengele shit. Nazi peridot would have been a better outcome than being a damn dyke gremlin.
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>Lion 4 Alternative Ending
>Alternative ending is Steven is a girl
I don't know why anyone is surprised
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>>91176304

I think this shows Sugars entire lack of self awareness.

When you have a viewerbase that's entirely supposed to be watching because of your story, and you give them the impression that you have some plan you're building to, the last thing you want after you've been blueballing them for a couple of years is to just devote an episode to mocking your blueballing them. I mean shit the latest ratings were under a million viewers.

I mean holy shit right now Samurai Jack, a show that's on right before midnight, is pulling like half again as many viewers as SU, a show Cartoon Network premieres with way more adds on a much better timeslot.
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>>91176148
for me its the lack of urgency for the plot like noting has happen in forever and im sick of all of the filler
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>>91171538
So the episode is literally just Steven crying and we learn that his name would have been Nora if he was a girl?

THATS IT?!!!
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>>91170872
It's like the show is actively trying to be as bland as possible.
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>>91176408
Sugar made these episodes a year ago. She has no control over when CN broadcasts new episodes.

Samurai Jack has long been discussed for 10 years, and is now concluding the story on Adult Swim.
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>>91175055
I think it's because she wanted to stop existing, but knew that shattering was instead a fate worse than death and knew her friends would fall apart if she just asked to remain bubbled forever. So she combined her suicidal tendencies and her love of humans and essentially wiped her hard drive.
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>>91176425
Yep.
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>"Lion" episode
neat
>it's complete shit
HOW?
They've all been pretty good and do a decent job of dishing out character development and plot.

This was just complete trash though. Nothing happened except "We didn't know what gender you would be so we made two tapes", hope you had fun digging through a dump.
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>>91176559
Lion doesn't deserve this. He's the best character of the show, why do they punish him by giving him a shit episode?
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>>91176420
Wasn't anything in the episode enjoyable?

Did anyone laugh once? What's the fucking point of this show? It's not comedy anymore, why did they think we'd enjoy this?
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>>91176148
For me I started to lose faith after Jailbreak when it was obvious things were deescalating. I had a lot of hope for the Cluster and Lapis/Peridot redemption arcs but those failed to deliver and I totally checked out.

Writing and art direction have gone to shit too
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>>91173241
>>91176160
nailed it
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>>91176583
>Lion
All he does is lay around and do nothing, what makes him so great? Other than fighting boss battles?
>>
This show was never good. This is the future you chose.
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>>91176619
This show stopped being a comedy effectively after Beach Party
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>>91176703
Only character in the show who hasn't obnoxiously cried yet, that puts him at or near the top in of itself
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>>91176703
>All he does is lay around and do nothing
that's all the cgs do too
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>>91176703
Compared to the other shit characters he's the best out of all of them. It's not much but it's all we've got.
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>>91175885
it was supposed to be a FLCL reference, with the green hand-ship threatening to grab the temple as the giant hand-monster threatened to grab the medical mechanica clothes iron, but just never quite worked out.

it's also a big nod to the idea of Gems and Humans already being more closely connected than either knows.
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>>91176736
Lapis and Jasper haven't cried
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>>91173475
does anime count?
>Seven Deadly Sins
>7 knights cast out for doing heinous shit
>Could've had the potential for 7 badass knights to come back decades later to save the kingdom as anti-heroes

INSTEAD
>All of them look like they haven't aged, all look like generic shounen shit
>None of them ACTUALLY did anything bad, they just got caught in bad situations
>They're all basically goody-two shoes generic protagonists

Anime was a mistake.
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>>91171818
Good thing he turned out to be a faggot. Close enough.
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>>91176619
>Wasn't anything in the episode enjoyable?
The sense of excitement that Rose's key might lead to something that gave us insight into Steve/Rose/Lion's characters

>Did anyone laugh once?
Not me

>What's the fucking point of this show?
At this point I'm not sure. It's not pulling in money for CN given how it gets pushed aside for TTG reruns

>why did they think we'd enjoy this?
I hate to point fingers at the "tumblr boogeymyn" but "rule 63 Steven is named NORA!!!1!" seems like something they'll go fucking nuts over
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>>91176619
I got a chuckle when Steven jabbed himself with the key, maybe if it wasn't recorded by some kid who can't prop a camera it'd be more entertaining
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>>91176764
Jasper's not gonna come back. She'd rather die than join the crystal gems. It's better that way than being reduced to a joke.
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>>91173691
>implying steven is Nora-faggot
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>>91176774
>does anime count?
I'm gonna say no. Each season they push out a dozen garbage shows with maybe one or two worth watching.

Some studios will practically animate anything.
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>>91175055
Stevens purpose is to enable Gem/Human fusion. For example, Stevonnie could fuse with another Gem. It will factor into the finale in a huge way.

also because >>91176516. she absolutely was ready to die after the corruption.

and because Steven can do things Rose never could. like restore Pink Diamond.
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>>91175235
>Infinity Train was cancelled and this shit was greenlit instead
I expect nothing and I'm still let down
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>we would have waited out an even longer hiatus just for this

AAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA oh, WOW
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>>91176955
>Infinity Train was cancelled
For real? I thought that wasn't even greenlit
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>>91176975
What the fuck is even up with the scheduling of this show. Is it really that hard to show an episode a week until the season is done?
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>>91176814

Agreed, we don't want her to be like Pete.
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>>91176948
I'm assuming this implied finale will involve a fusion of basically every character in Beach city ever fighting agianst a fusion of all homeworld gems? Sounds like a clusterfuck
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>>91177018
What, do you not like bombs?
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>>91176955
>Infinity Train
I guess we can be happy that we'll never have to suffer through Infinity Train turning into Steven Universe.

Maybe Dennis can sell it as a miniseries and we'll get another 'OTGW'.
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I see tons of gender identity stuff popping up in the next for weeks. Nora Universe EVERYWHERE
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>>91177018
CN schedule is fucked! Have you seen the weekend schedule? TTG marathon to hell!
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>>91177031
Here's how I imagine the finale will go down

>CGs and Townies fighting off a Diamond invasion force
>Stevonnie about to get her ass handed to her
>Steven defuses to protect Connie
>Dies/Poofs
>Rose rematerializes
>She's fucking PISSED
>Fuses with the CGs into the Temple Gem
>Win
>Everyone crying over Steven
>They're not sure how to get him back
>Greg and Rose fuse
>Steven's back
>Fin
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>>91177082
Nora is trans! TRANS!
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>>91177082
Yep, like that other anon said this was pure tumblr bait
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>>91177082
but everyone could have been hypothetically born as a different gender
therefore, everyone is trans
and when everyone is trans, no one will be
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>>91177114
>welcome back, steven
>this time you also killed your dad
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>>91177155
So... I'm trans?
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>>91176814
Jasper will make Steven Universe great again
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>>91177195
i dont think thats possible at this point
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>>91177114
How could they fuse if it didn't work before?

Also define 'win' as in who/what the fusion would win agianst. The diamonds? Their fleets?
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>>91172191
Shortly after the season 3 finale.
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>>91177195
Jasper was already ruined and turned into a complete jobber.
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>>91177018
But then where would we put all those TTGo episodes, anon?
Duh
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>>91176814
>tfw I desperately want her to get more screen time
>only way this could happen is if she joins the CGs
>could be good
>knowing crewniverse they'll absolutely fuck it up
why god
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>Jasper comes back
>Shatters one of the CG
>CG is gone for several episodes until Steven figures out how to heal shattering
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>>91177195
*jasper will become an even bigger joke than the other meme characters as soon as they bring her back because the show is on a neverending downward spiral
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>>91177114

>Win

I always hear how the Gem Homeworld is the greatest fictional alien species and how they could glass this planet if the wanted to, so how can the earth win?

What's stopping homeworld from glassing the planet the moment things don't go their way? What's stopping homeworld from glassing the planets if they lose? What's stopping homeworld from glassing the planet later just for revenge?

The answer is fucking nothing, so i don't think earth will win by force of arms
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>>91177313
>he then uses that to heal PD
>make her a CG
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>>91170284
NOTHING HAPPENS
NOTHING
ughhhhh i mean technically it wasnt bad but at this point its like a fucking insult
DO SOMETHING
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SOMETHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING
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>>91177342
>Heals PD
>She resumes her conquest of Earth
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>>91175650
>>91175720
your plan of SU viewing experience is vastly superior of mine
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>>91177351
you hype yourself up this much you're not going to like it when something does happen
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>>91177351
>Filler
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>>91175775
nobody cares because steven doesnt care
nobody cares that YD wants to abduct people because the characters dont care
why do the characters dont care
they werent like this the previous seasons
why
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>>91177341
>Homeworld is the greatest fictional alien species

Kek. The gems are fragile as fuck, they get proofed by a falling rock.
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Is the video available anywhere else? OP's link is dead.
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>>91176148
/co/ has always hated it because its about feelings and lesbians.
but right now,with this pretty bad season,even the fans have lost hope.i havent,but you cant deny that theres absolutely nothing fucking happening.
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>>91177341
>I always hear how the Gem Homeworld is the greatest fictional alien species
Well then you're only talking to diehard SU fanboys/girls

Any of the 40k species could wipe out the gems.

Hell the fucking Borg could probably take them down and they're smalltime compared to some sci-fi aliens
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>>91177422
Here u go
http://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdrive.google.com%2Ffile%2Fd%2F0BzoqlqTNMXr5bzR5OXUtWml0NVU%2Fview%3Fusp%3Dsharing
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>>91174609
>tfw very little adult steven porn

At least I have Greg
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>>91177132
But the Nora thing was just to drive home how Steven was just meant to be a normal human birth with all it's variabilities, not a plan or a magical weapon or anything

I'm not seeing the tumblr bait in this
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>>91177341
they couldnt stop a tiny rebellion.
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>>91177447
how long do you think a fight between the imperium and homeworld would last? a week? what about chaos?
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>>91177341
if this show made any sense and there was any actual threat and any of the antagonists were actually competent there wouldn't be a chance of the CGs winning against HW and the Earth would be destroyed by now, but this is Steven Universe and the protagonists will never lose and everyone will be happy by the end
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>>91177478
its not tumblr baits but /co/ always finds a way of saying this show is tumblrina and SJW
honestly other than mystery girl the show has 0 of that shit,even in its worst episodes
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>>91177031
Homeworld comes in full force. Their ships block out the sun. OG gems are giving up hope, but "NO!", says Steven! We'll always save the day!

Then Homeworld detonates the cluster.

Suddenly everything is in 'space', in the new asteroid field formerly known as Earth. Steven is alone in his bubble. We see townies floating around, suffocating, DYING (as in, we see them cease struggling as they succumb to vacuum exposure. Steven tries to save one or two but they're dropping too quickly and all just out of reach). We see gemstones, including identifiable ones of main characters, poofed, maybe cracked, maybe shattered (we see at least one of the main gems, or maybe Peedles, bounce off his bubble and go spiraling out into the void).

"THE END" title card, end of episode.

A catatonic Steven is startled 'awake' at the start of the next episode by Connies frozen corpse bumping into his bubble, slowly drifting away. He starts crying softly, again, rocking, completely incapable of thought.

Then the cluster starts chattering at him. It's still in the process of forming, still an undulating self-illuminated blob. Homeworld ships are flitting about doing something to it, and it's crying out to Steven for help.

Steven is broken, full of rage and horror, can't think, hates cluster, sees no point, etc., but of course gets over it.

They start to fuse. And then, once the unique Gem/Organic Hybrid known as 'Steven' has entered the megafusion, it just keeps right on fusing. It swells to draw in every bit of biomass, every bit of Gemstone, and wraps itself around the inert matter of Was-Earth for good measure.

The Homeworld ships flee, backing off to a much wider cordon. The Voice of God rings out from The Cluster, shaking their hulls, clattering their teeth, maybe even visibly cracking some of their Gemstones; "THIS IS OURS." They start warping out in a full retreat.
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>>91173818
>All that movement

Tourettes?
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>>91177490
>they couldnt stop a tiny rebellion.

But they did stop it, those 4 gems that survived did so by pretending to be dead

The only reason they didn't glass the planet while the rebelion was alive was for ownership of the planet

And the reason not to glass it after the rebelion died was becouse of the cluster

Now there's nothing left to lose and they actively want the planet to be destroyed
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>>91177341
>Gem Homeworld is the greatest fictional alien species
KEK
>conventional damage can crack/shatter their bodies
>energy weapons can destabilize their forms
>they can be corrupted into mindless beasts, this corruption is caused deliberately but it's also contagious
>the entire Diamond Authority couldn't stop one rebellion
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>>91177523
After they have all departed, it starts compressing, down to a sphere. The self-illumination of form-taking wears off, revealing... Earth, right back where it belongs.

Steven opens his eyes and sits up in bed. He reaches down to feel for his Gemstone, seemingly confused by its presence. He jumps out, calling for Garnet, Pearl, Amethyst!, but getting no response. He leaves his house to run towards town, through environments looking exactly the same as they always have, but is stopped by meeting Connie, who is slowly walking up the beach to him, from her old reading spot near the cliffs.

"Hey, Steven!..." She's rubbing one eye earnestly, like it must itch. "Do you know what's happening?" He does not, but she probably doesn't see him shaking his head, bawling, as he races to fall into her arms. She laughs/sighs and looks down at him, "Steven I'm fine, come on, we have to figure out what's -"

Steven looks up into her eye. And her Gemstone.

"wrong...?" she sees the look on his face. Static cut.
(That thing they like to do to punctuate cliffhanger/twist endings where they put a very quick building static sfx which then cuts to hard silence.)

Then they can do a special later for real closure, or just wait for the inevitable soft reboot.
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>>91177341
>I always hear how the Gem Homeworld is the greatest fictional alien species and how they could glass this planet if the wanted to, so how can the earth win?

LITERALLY nobody says that
So far with what we've seen of them they're in fact one of the most incompetent and harmless civilizations.

>fight with conventional weaponry (swords, polearms, fist weapons, whips)
>superhuman bodies but prone to injury (amethyst cracking on a rock, lapis getting poofed by a punch to the gem)
>they dont even bother wearing any armor
>ridiculously incompetent armies and security measures (rebels infiltrating a facility when the SUPREME RULERS of the empire are present and getting out unharmed, not counting the fact that all the Amethysts cheered them all on the way out)
>plant at least one doomsday device on a planet, don't bother checking if it went off
>not to mention the fact that any actual damage to the gems means they go full bananas and become equally dangerous to any side

The Gem Empire is a fucking joke in any setting except for a children's cartoon
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>>91177341
Gems would hypothetically be fucking insane if they were utilized to their full potential. FTL travel, time manipulation, mass duplication, mass reproduction, direct energy weapons, etc. Thing is the show doesn't utilize them NEARLY to their full potential.
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>>91177228
>How could they fuse if it didn't work before?
Deus ex Machina

You're deluded if you think this show will end without it
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>>91176072
also
>AJ's Infinite Summer isn't getting a show
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>>91177519
>what is Rocknaldo
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Why does this show go out of its way to be as boring as humanly possible? Christ, a show like this should be exciting and interesting, not bland as fuck 90% of the time.
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>>91177645
>>91176072
welp, time to die
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I wish Gems were actually creative with their abilities. They've been shown to have a vast arsenal of abilities (most pulled out of their ass for one scene) but they literally only fight in the most direct and bland way possible.
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kek they should have gone with "Lori" or "Lora" just to really get us
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>>91177645
>AJ's Infinite Summer isn't getting a show
I don't get the appeal but still think it would've been better than fucking apple and onion
>>91177683
I'll join you
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I give up on this show
Not even my waifu can save it maybe she can but it's been so long since she's been in focus
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>>91177634
>FTL travel, time manipulation, mass duplication, mass reproduction, direct energy weapons, etc.
Oh my yes. How unbelievably powerful *smirk*
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>>91177523
isnt that plot that from neon gelatin evan's angel or something?
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Is Steven gay? This show really is going down the shitter. Can some questions be fucking answered?
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>>91177755
>911
>777
>55
Only a Q could get such amazing digits
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>>91177755
Barneyfag incoming
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>>91176764
Jasper was such a disappointment. She was a great villain at the start and then they messed up the power scale and had garnet beat her because she was in a good mood.

Then she's kind of a threat but gets her ass kicked by smokey quartz in one of the worst animated fights I have ever seen
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>>91177755
I meant in relation to humans, obviously there's some other fictional races and entities that could take a massive shit on them.
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>>91176703
He's the only character to have never cried.

Already miles better than anyone.
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I'm not usually one to use normie memes, but

U THOUT

BITCH U THOUHT
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>>91177834
I bet an ICBM could shatter a team of gems.
Hell a well aimed bullet would probably do the trick.

The reasons the Gems are so powerful is because they establish supremacy while the native population is pre-industrial and strip it bare/destroy it
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>>91177868
I can't wait to find out there's nothing important in there.
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>>91177938

too soon man, too soon
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>>91177341
What I've been thinking the whole show.

In my opinion these rocks are more OP and 'perfect' (in terms of physical abilities not mental) than fucking Twilight Vampires.
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>>91177913
I personally wonder why the Homeworld gems didn't Jkf Rose with a rifle to the gem or something. Like...a lot. I doubt a gem would'be had the reaction time to stop a laser bullet
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At this point the only way to win me back is to have uncle Andy take point on the Peetle Squad in a space ship dog fight against Homeworld.
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>>91176955
>Infinity Train was cancelled
You better source me before i let my heart get broken
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>>91173081
>I mean, I fucking love Steven Universe. It's my favorite show right now.

What's it like to have shit taste? I'm curious.
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>>91177637
Good point is good
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>>91177082
That was literally the entire point of this episode. She had to get people talking and throwing gender shit into it is way easier than writing something interesting
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>>91177018
Anon, if they did that where would they put YOUR NEW FAVORITE SHOW?
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>>91177195
I want an alternate universe where she wins
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>>91178104
Star Vs. Evil has become my number 1 favorite currently running cartoon as of 2017.

Steven Universe used to be my number one favorite, but it has sleep so far downhill in the past year
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>>91178104
Back to the shed, star
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>>91177341
>I always hear how the Gem Homeworld is the greatest fictional alien species
SUbronies word shouldnt be taken seriously
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>>91177341
The only possible way that Homeworld, a civilization that fucking dwarves earth in both technology and population and power, can lose against the crystal gems (five gems and a fucking child) is with a dues ex machina

Unfortunately they have one. I just know the Cluster is going to act as some bullshit that saves their asses.

But then again even that can make an army, but can defeat a civilization that spans countless planets and can glass them from orbit
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>>91174159
Whenever she is in the show she's always pushing the story forward, having her in makes shit happen
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>>91178235
Anon, our armies can beat the Homeworld. Gems are pathetic
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>>91178340

We all know that, the question is what's stopping them from just glassing the planet?
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>>91178340
How the fuck would we get to Homeworld? Do the humans of this world they haven't expanded on have better technology then we do?
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>>91170284
theres 8 threads of SU right now
fucking stop
>>91178242
thats jasper buddy
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>>91177341
>I always hear how the Gem Homeworld is the greatest fictional alien species

from fucking who
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>>91178405
They can't do that.
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>>91178442
well, it seems like they should be able to in theory
they have spaceships that we know are armed
and also, they are arms
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Honestly the cluster was the fucking stupidest method for garunteeing the destruction of a planet I've personally ever heard. Have a time bomb with no distinct way of knowing when it will go off that you have no control over that could potentially be stopped by something or bite you in the ass later?

Such an advanced civilization couldn't have made a (or multiple considering their technological prowess) death star(s) and blew up the planet instead of wasting their time fighting a war (or if what's been said about the owner still being alive is true, just immediately after the war?)

Honestly earth isn't really that valuable in their subjective view of the universe lol
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>>91177755
>>91177788
>>91177826
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>>91178405
It was the Cluster. They probably still want earth for the resources and since its being defended by five gems and a child they'll probably try to just take it by force again.

If by some miracle the crystal gems defend and defeat a Homeworld attack, there is literally nothing that can stop them from glassing the planet
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>>91178407
>How the fuck would we get to Homeworld?
We can't but we can BTFO the gems if they want a fight in our planet
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>>91178487
>defeat the gems on the planet surface
>get nuff from orbit

Great plan.
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>>91178503
>get nuff from orbit
They can't do that, retard.
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>>91178473
it's not just about destroying the planet, it's about taking the people who were protecting the planet and frankensteining them into a giant monster that will destroy it
It's not very efficient but I do think it was a pretty decent ironic punishment
although it kinda blew up in their face cause then steven was able to use that same desire to protect earth to get them to stop forming so hey it all connects
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>>91178536
You don't even have to nuke, just drop large shit from space and the impact on the surface will obliterate everything
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>>91171538
>>91176425
Did this really need 11 whole minutes dedicated to it when just one or two would've sufficed just fine?
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>>91178575
I know, but the gems are too stupid for that. That is the point. We can win because the gems are stupid
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>tfw want to love this show
>tfw it just keeps letting me down

Other than Samurai Jack, I have nothing. I hope Craig's serialized show for Disney got greenlit and will be released soon.
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>>91178473
YD, or Peridot I can't remember which, described it as a weapon, so I'd assume that it would be used on more than just the Earth.
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>>91178608
Of course not. The entire show can be summed up with the words, "Was this really necessary?"
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>>91178616
That flies in the face of the crystal gems shitting their pants at the mere thought of Homeworld returning
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>>91178647
I believe Peridot said it was a geoweapon. Which is an interesting piece of information that hasn't been touched upon at all aside from that one line. YD actually needing a massive, powerful weapon for some reason is more interesting than her just wanting to destroy earth for revenge so I hope it wasn't just a throw away line.
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>>91172584
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>>91178647
It seems too uncontrollable to be very practical
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>>91178713
If the planet was shattered by the cluster wouldn't that make harvesting the resources much easier? Especially the ones at the core?
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>>91178567
I guess it just illustrates their incompetence. Common sense? Wide margin of error?
Leaving the hero on a conveyor belt with a conviently long amount of time to escape and save the day?

There's spite and then they're just not thinking things through because plot.
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>>91178824
Didn't they assume everyone was dead after the war? The cluster had to have a purpose other than to kill off the crystal gems because they didn't know they survived the nuke or whatever the fuck it was that took out the resistance

But if they did know then you're right why the fuck did they go with the cluster instead of just wiping out there four gems that were left?

It honestly feels like a plot hole
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>>91178754
Gems seem to use some sort of magical "life energy", like what Galactus feeds on, to reproduce and if Peridot's talk with Yellow Diamond is to be believed then destroying the planet would render the resources unusable.

>>91178749
The Gempire is one of the dumbest galactic scale civilizations I have ever seen.
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>>91178754
Didn't YD say she didn't care about resources all she wanted was the cluster?
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>>91178905
>The Gempire is one of the dumbest galactic scale civilizations
And I'm pretty sure that the Gempire isn't a "galactic" empire. They are too weak and dumb for that.
>tfw Gempire is just a couple of planets
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>>91178974
About two dozen or so at the time of rebellion, and since they are low on resources they likely have not found any more suitable planets.
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>>91178942
> You are to leave the Cluster to grow. It will tear apart the Earth, and I will take immense satisfaction in erasing that hideous rock off of our star maps. Is that clear?!
all she cares about is revenge
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>>91178901

I think you're right about the dead thing, but there were plenty of corrupted gems and stuff left to rot amount other things. Valuable stuff that could've been used by some other rebel minded gem post war.

Honestly there are a lot of ways the entirety of the plot could have been avoided if they were smart enough.
There are plenty of other plot holes (unless there's some answer among the countless filler that I missed) that I think about.
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>>91175775
the quality was so bad i couldnt even tell
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>>91179094
And of course she had to wait for it instead of blowing it up immediately because plot
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>>91179094
She also specifically says "I want my cluster."
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>>91173081
>I fucking love Steven Universe. It's my favorite show right now.

Do you only watch cartoons or some shit?
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>>91178901
I'd call it an unresolved plot string than a plot hole. A plot hole would imply they've moved beyond this storypoint, which has not happened yet. We will probably find out more when the Diamonds come to Earth.
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>>91179207
Even if they did limit themselves to just cartoons, there are better ones out there right now.
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>>91178045
I'm not going to lie, that sounds fantastic.
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>>91179187
they could probably blow the entire planet if they wanted to, maybe they need the cluster for another purpose, maybe they are at war, or maybe they ran out of resources back at homeworld, that's why they created a second generation of powerless, half-assed gems like peridot
>>91179188
>I want my Cluster, and I want that planet to die. Just make that happen.
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>>91179368
The fact that they emphasized that YD both wants earth to explode and the cluster makes me think her wanting the cluster is supposed to be important, but I'm really wondering if they're ever going to bring it up again.
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>>91179368
>maybe they are at war

Again?

You'd think they'd mention another rebellion or some other civilization they're fighting agianst in some way or form.

>resources

There are billions of planets out there. Earth is just one.

How can a cluster be used to supply resources?
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>>91179489
>if they're ever going to bring it up again.
Nope
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>crystal gems are terrified of jasper
>then garner beats jasper
>lapis is in front of the crystal gems with jasper there
>instead of working 4 on 1 to take out jasper she fuses with her
>because apparently she's strong enough to beat her mentally and keep her trapped under water for I don't know how many months, but she isn't strong enough to take her on with the other gems there on the fucking beach

Nothing in this fucking show makes sense.
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>>91179368
>they could probably blow the entire planet if they wanted to, maybe they need the cluster for another purpose, maybe they are at war, or maybe they ran out of resources back at homeworld, that's why they created a second generation of powerless, half-assed gems like peridot

We are at season 4 now, thats 120 episodes, we are never going to go the fireworks factory, the cluster is there becouse homeworld is evil and retarded
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>>91179527
Welcome to SU
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>>91179567
This
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>>91179502
>You'd think they'd mention another rebellion or some other civilization they're fighting agianst in some way or form.

We'll get that halfway through season 6.

The resource they need, presumably, only appears on planets with life.There was a video early on explaining gem production and they kill the planet as they grow.
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>>91179527
Lapis did not want to side with the Crystal Gems, as Jasper pointed out. She fucked Jasper over because she dragged her back to HW and deluded herself into thinking this was a sort of punishment for herself and as a sacrifice for Steven's sake.

but yes, she's fucking retarded
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>>91179527
Yeah it was a "fuck the CG, fuck Jasper, fuck me, but protect Steven" thing. It was a self-destructive as well as a general destructive thing.

She has a legitimately spiteful side when she's pissed off. This was revisited in The New Crystal Gems when she sprayed all the townie's faces as a "joke" when Peridot was bossing her around
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>>91179657
>angry at the crystal gems for keeping her imprisoned
>instead of just fucking off and letting them handle Jasper or taking out Jasper she decides to imprison herself

Yeah she's yet another idiot on the show. Also are we expected to believe that she flew to Homeworld by flapping her water wings?
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>>91179595
>We'll get that halfway through season 6.
IMO if the other civilization thing were true the Homeworld gems would casually talk about it like 'hey how's the fight agianst the xenomorphs going?' Or 'o you humans are more pathetic than the borgs' etc etc. It'd be pretty important to them and a big part of their lives going from civilization to civilization to make more of themselves. Besides if they did encounter other civilizations before hand especially ones formed from organic life they should have somewhat of an understanding of certian concepts like 'love' (before you say the their forms of life may not experience it as we do consider other basic biological needs causing drives like hunger by the need to form and break chemical bonds maintain homeostasis etc) and other forms of chemicals being, and I quote from somewhere I can't exactly remember, 'pumped into our brains to form a yes or no response based on what our ancestors used to pass on their genes and pheromone comparability'.

Most gems seem ill equipped to understand carbon based life forms and what they do.

You'd think you'd want to know more about your enemy in order to defeat it better....
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>>91179822
>>91179866
Except she could have easily killed Jasper. They could have justified the fusion if they wrote the episode so that she was weak or it was just her and Steven there and she couldn't defeat Jasper so to save Steven she has to fuse and use Jasper's power to imprison her.

But instead they have it take place NEXT TO A FUCKING BEACH and Steven is there with all three Crystal gems to protect him.

It still makes no sense
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>>91179885
They are not the brightest bulb in the galaxy. Yellow Diamond did speak of "organics", but that doesn't necessarily mean there are other species. It's just that the only options are 1) the gems are fighting another alien race or 2) they are fighting another civil war/rebellion. Otherwise the army and super weapon makes no sense.
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>>91179929
Why makes you think she wanted to poof/shatter Jasper? Looked more like she wanted to imprison her the same way Jasper did to her.
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>>91179969
3) YD is as stupid as the rest of the gems
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>>91179929
It was a self-destructive thing as well. She was also Malachite, and she was also putting herself in chains. She knows she's a shitty person and she thought she had no hope for herself at that point. No home to return to
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>>91179885
They can't expand earth beyond beach city except for a few clips here and there. There is no way they are going to spend time designing another civilization.

That's actually a huge point though that if the gems need planets with life to make more gems then that basically confirms life on other planets not only exists but is prevalent.

Now they could have made the story about contacting those planets and staging a universe wide revolt or trying to get to other planets with life before the gems do or helping another invasion of a planet already in progress or SOMETHING but instead they have to write an episode about a Steven crying over the fact that if he was a girl he would have been named Nora

Just fuck this show. It could have been actually really fucking interesting but they slander it
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>>91174967
same.
bring her back and the quality of this shitty show will go up 100%.
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I wonder if Lapis had prior experience with fusion... Peridot and Jasper never seemed to be familiar with fusion, though Peridot had no need to and Jasper seemed to be a perpetual loner.

That fusion-torture thing seemed too complex and ingenious for a couple of first-timers.
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>>91180078
Jasper seemed like she was a natural with that dance
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>>91179929
Lapis is a mess of issues. She was one part taking revenge on Jasper, one part punishing herself, and one part redeeming herself in her mind by playing the martyr for Steven (even though he really didn't want her to).
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>>91180078
Same with Lapis. I think maybe they both had some experience with gems of their own type, as higher class gems. Peridot is a sheltered fusion virgin because she was just a techie nerd
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>>91179969
Still if the other race wasn't organic i stand by my initial point of stuff like this being a big part of their day. Like, a war against an alien race or any war would be a pretty big topic of discussion and or a point of reference, espeacially with warrior gems.

Hell Jasper could be like 'hey at least Rose was better than the other fuckers I've had to put down' or something.
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>>91178405
Literally nothing we have been over this. Once they find out the cluster was a dud earth is fucked.

I actually hope this is how the series ends. Steven is an idiot and brags or some shit about defeating the cluster and they just glass the planet

>>91180000
I thought the Crystal Gems were the ones that put in the mirror for a few thousand years?

>>91180010
Except this doesn't makes sense for her wanting to protect Steven. Easiest way to protect Steven is to poof or shatter Jasper instead or risking losing control in a fusion
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>>91180124
She was confident that she would dominate. She was being selfish in her craving for self-punishment and revenge, but she was also confident that Steven would be ok.
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>>91180152
She should have pushed the self harm and guilt issue more then. A simple line like "I deserve this" would have sufficed but instead she just says she's doing it for Steven while it's actually the worst thing she could have done for Steven
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>>91180201
She deluded herself in justifying to herself that is was all for Steven, but I think it was clear what her driving motivations were

She hung on to the "for Steven, for Steven," thought so she could avoid facing what a monster she was
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>>91180201
I thought the self harm/guilt was pretty fucking apparent, with the water chains and all.

She may say "for Steven", but underneath that is self-hatred and defeat.
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>I thought the Crystal Gems were the ones that put in the mirror for a few thousand years?

That was Homeworld's doing, they assumed that she was a Crystal Gem when they found her gem lying on the ground. The only thing that the CGs are guilty of is keeping her in the mirror.
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