Cartoon Network Upfront

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>another season of TTG

>Cartoon Network is desperately looking for new kids shows so they can finish canceling these internet fan-service shows that make next to no money because internet losers don't buy merchandise.
Sounds about right.

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>200 episodes of Teen Cancer Go!
>2nd season of nuPPG
>Apple & Onion, basically Regular Show-lite without the charm nor the good dialogue and characters, gets greenlit instead of Infinity Train
>Cloudy with a Chance of Meatball

This is the most retarded line-up of shows I have ever seen.

>>91164299
>Lying Matt is getting a TV series with Ben Levin.
Huh

So is Justice League Action dead?

>>91164299
>Tfw cartoons are gonna shift over on AS because Genndy is gonna start making new shows

Good fucking riddance to day airings.

>>91164299
>return of the Tooth Fairy in Teen Titans Go

YES!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-j6tVFfS5s

Ta-ta-ta-TA-TAH!

I guess that settles it then, RIP in peace Total Drama.

Also conspicuously absent: Clarence

>>91165212
Probably cancelled

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Miss me yet?

>>91164959
At least we're not getting Megaman

I just wish the children's television channel had fewer television programs featuring children.

>>91165212
To be fair Clarence doesn't have the staying power a lot of other shows (including much worse ones like TTG) have. It'll be remembered as a slightly worse EEnE of the new tens and retire gracefully.

>>91164959

>nuPPG
I thought that series was losing money? Just put it in indefinite hiatus and keep selling the toys. Hell, just air the original series, no one will care.

>Apple and Onion
I remember seeing that pilot. It was a mediocre British accent Regular Show. Shame it's getting a show instead of something interesting like Infinity Train.

I'm surprised we're getting another AT mini series so soon. Hopefully, it'll be as good as Islands was.

>Go Titans Go

Guys?

>>91165408
If they just wanna ride this continuity streak to the end of the show that would be fine by me. Hope they manage to conclude some of their long standing plot points along the way too.

>Apple and Onion
Honestly? I liked the pilot. I'll give it a chance.
It's probably going to be better than SU anyways

>>91165254
kind of

>>91165518
Well that's not hard to do, especially recently.

I think the creator was a writer for Gumball too.

>6 new shows

That's it? Why is the west so weak?

>>91165636
It was only season 1 of gumball which was less good though.

>>91165352
>I thought that series was losing money? Just put it in indefinite hiatus and keep selling the toys. Hell, just air the original series, no one will care.

I think it might be becoming a standard to give a series two seasons right off the bat. At least for CN.

>>91165254
I miss a good CEO

Not you, not Miller the cartoon killer, a good ceo

>>91165656
Because the corporations that run the channels only give a shit about marketable and cheap-to-animate shows, that's why innovative shows that have an overarching storyline are on decline nowadays.

No room for creativity or art, just what prints money, and that's the sad truth.

>Disney and Nick have a better future for cartoons than CN

This is sad. This is really fucking sad.

>>91165779
It's a damn shame. I'm grateful we at least got Japan holding the front, but it'd be nice if we could get it from both ends.

>>91165010
...Guys?

>>91165254
You started this mess in the first place.

>>91165793
>Nick
>future for cartoons
kek

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First pic of Craig of the Creek.

>>91166035

Awful

>>91164299
I thought Gumball was ending? I mean, I'm glad it's not, but I've been presad since I heard it was.

>>91166052
There will never be an alt-right cartoon ;_; I'm going to have to start watching anime

>>91166076
Wow that's the strongest case of projecting I've seen in a long time.

>>91165793
the only cartoons on Nick that have a future are Spongebob and The Loud House.

Spongebob's probably never gonna die at this point even if his creator does and The Loud House is the first Nicktoon in ages to rival Spongebob in ratings.

Other than that, Nick is more dead than CN with cartoons

>>91166035
This is Steven Universe

This is basically Steven Universe

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>>91165212
>>91165237

>>91166035
Guess it's true what they say, "be careful when you ask for cartoons to have more variety in their facial structure because they'll just take a bunch of different faces lifted from different artists' styles and jam them in the same cartoon."

>>91166035
Goddammit, when are cartoons gonna start using different art styles again?

You'd think cartoons would take more advantage of being a cartoon

>>91165212
Eh.

The show was alright, and 3 seasons is more than I thought it was going to get.

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>>91166035
but i'll give any new show a chance

>>91166035
The style certainly looks derivative of SU, but the concept reminds me a bit of KND, so I'll reserve judgement until I see it

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>>91166035
it looks so bland

>>91166035

I'm getting a Camp Weedonwantcha/Ed Edd n' Eddy vibe from the description

>>91166302
I-it's better than anime at least!

>>91164916
Tumblr loves to buy merchandise doesn't matter how cheap it is

>>91166035
Looks incredibly bland but I might give it a shot.

Although honestly the only things that draw me in anymore are mature humor, sexy girls, or story arcs. This doesn't seem to have any of those, so not for me I guess.

>>91166035
Why do they bother putting pilots online if they just end up green lighting completely different shows?

>>91166142
It needs to look as "inoffensive" as possible, meaning it shouldn't look too unique or different, otherwise it'll cause normies to avoid watching it because "ew, the art-style is different from Adventure Time and other shows, I don't like it.".

That's why you're seeing so many shows that have characters with large heads and noodly limbs with bright primary colors with little shading, they're essentially forced to copy this artstyle or otherwise they'll make kids avoid them because they don't recognize it as a cartoon made for them.

I mean, really, I knew people who hated shows like EEnE and S1-4 Samurai Jack because their artstyle was different from other shows like Kids Next Door and Billy & Mandy. I don't doubt it's the same situation here.

>>91164299
Why can't AT just die already.
It hasn't been good since Season 2.

>>91164836
>le funni fat gamr

>>91166142
>>91166468

trends in art styles have been a thing in animation since fucking forever and disagreeing is nostalgia goggles

>Clarence probably cancelled
There goes the most underrated show on cn

>>91165010
>>91166009
We already knew it was dead.

Enjoy the 52 episodes, at least.

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>>91166480
Merchandise, anon. The only reason Adventure Time is still on life-support.

>>91166453
>Although honestly the only things that draw me in anymore are mature humor, sexy girls, or story arcs.
oh /co/

>>91166498
yeah but this trend sucks a fat one

>>91164299

Craig of the Creek sounds like a replacement Clarence
Makes sense, seeing how Apple & Onion is basically a replacement Regular Show

>>91166453
Then watch anime

>>91166110
No, this is Clarence.

>>91165656
b-b-but it's better than anime!

AIRING DATES!

WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE AIRING DATES?

>>91166517
>Shelf full of shit that nobody buys

>>91164959
This is what you get when you allow a woman to run the network

>>91166517
Also, the series being really good.

>>91166480
It's already on its way out faggot, quit being a whiner.

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>still no infinity train
either god is dead, he never existed or he is pure evil

>>91166634
>still no infinity train
good

>>91166634
He take way longer than just a few month for a pilot project to become a show. Don't expect anything before the end of 2018.

>>91166498
Yeah but there's usually a transitional period between one art styles dominance and another's. We like those times, and reminisce for those times.

>>91165666
yeah, CN renewed nuPPG for a second season before it even premiered
They had really high hopes for it

>>91166634
While I probably would have preferred that show to most other of the vaguely video-game-inspired magical realism fantasies that came in Adventure Time's wake, Infinity Train clearly missed the boat. Come back with a time machine and we'll talk.

>>91166634
relax, we'll probably hear something about it next year

>>91165797
>weeboo cuck

So, this is what being too old for cartoons feel like?

>>91166035
>that boy/girl design
fucking out

>>91166035
So, adventure? I think I'll give it a shot.

>>91166548
I wish they would've greenlit Long Live the Royals instead of all these

At least that one had demonstrated that it was pretty good

>>91165793
Name 5 good current Nickelodeon shows that are not on their way to get canceled
And you are not allowed to use The Loud House

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So, what's stopping you from doing that Cartoon Pitch and ushering in a new age for cartoons /co/ ? :D

(Aside from giving up all rights to it if it's greenlit of course.)

>>91166014
I guess you just wanted them to switch to Live Action 100%

>>91166035
craig of the creek doesnt look bad.apple and onion looks like 1 season shit show
>>91164959
you gotta wait a while for infinity train to get greenlit.if by a year from now theres 0 news,its canned.

>>91166730
>implying weebs are cucks when they have thriving animation scene
>imlpying the cucks aren't westonlyfags for sticking with shit like CN or Nick

lol

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>>91164299
>NEW SERIES
>Apple & Onion
>Craig of the Creek
>Summer Camp Island
>OK K.O.! Let’s Be Heroes
>Ben 10
> Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs
Ben 10 already premiered in other countries. According to people, it's not too bad but it's fairly pointless.
Cloudy is shit
Summer Camp, Apple and Onion look like shit
Haven't heard about Craig of the Creek
> The adventure series is created by Matt Burnett and Ben Levin, formerly from Steven Universe.
>Steven Universe.
Not a good sign

>>91166121
This is what you get for complaining about CalArts face

>>91166763
I can't draw and I don't have connections.

>>91166035
Dropped already.

>>91166142
judging from how long the Hanna-Barbera style lasted, I'd say about 50 years

>>91166110
>no lesbians
>no aliens
>no monsters
yeah ok
also the creator comes from SU

>>91166802
took /co/ long enough to start shitting in SU

>>91166763
>So, what's stopping you from doing that Cartoon Pitch and ushering in a new age for cartoons /co/ ? :D

Training, funding, fear of executive meddling etc.
>giving up all rights to it if it's greenlit
Didn't Antonucci get the eds back from CN
[spoilers] Is it even possible to get your creations back from networks? [/spoilers]

>>91166582
The fucked thing is, anon, people do buy this shit.

>>91166872
>Didn't Antonucci get the eds back from CN

As far as I'm aware, CN allowed him to have creative control over it, but I don't know about rights to it.

>>91166459
Apple and Onion had a proper pilot
didn't it?

>>91166110
how?

>>91166529
Eh might as well be honest. I'd add in good action scenes and great animation, but those are very rare these days.

>>91166549
I do. Not much though because subs require my direct attention and there's only so much reading I want to do in a day.

>>91166802
At what point did Burnett and Levin leave SU to work on this?

>>91166931
yes

>>91166066
It might be on its last season, like Adventure Time

>>91166949
this is the first time we have heard from this.
im the rare SU fan on this thread and this is news to me

>>91166872
IIRC Antonucci performed some kind of black magic and got both creative control and full rights to the show from the get-go.

>>91165656
very few watch straight up television anymore. Networks have to limit their programming because of the proliferation of streaming and pirating services. why shop your show around a network when you can post it on youtube where potentially millions will watch it?

>>91166484
>le autisc shitpster

>>91166459
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsnxNdRFYLk

>>91166972
Well I assume that they must have been off production by now if they're already working on a new show

>>91164959
>We're in a Golden Age of animation, you guys!

>>91166076
>alt-right cartoon

yeah, you'll love anime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ihIJ1UZAVk

>>91166986
BASED
A
S
E
D

>>91166949
After they realized how shit the show became.

>>91166937
because stinking negros

>>91167012
yep.they probably left it a year ago.it explains why matt sometimes promotes SU and sometimes he forgets
>>91167040
jojo is above anime,cartoons and animation

>>91166035
At least it looks better than Apple & Onion or Summer Camp Island

>>91167066
That would actually be good news to me since I'm one of those people who loved the show but now dislike it but it's more likely that they're just as responsible for the show's decline as anyone

>>91167010
I don't even know what kind of audience are they going for with this. I guess it's supposed to be quirky but, I don't know it's the jokes fall flat more than anything and the style is eeriely close to problem solverz. That's not a good thing.

>>91166730
Well we are in 4chan after

>>91166949
twitter says they just started working on it for real after it was greenlit.

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>>91164299
>All that mediocre shit no one cares about
wew at this rate Nick's upfront will btfo CN

>>91166549
only sub-human weeb-scum would do something so vile

>>91167052
Ed Edd n Eddy turns 20 in two more years, wonder if we'll get a complete blu ray box set by then.

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>>91167040
>those quick cuts at the end
I've seen hardly any Jojo before and it's even more ridiculous than I've imagined

>>91166802
>"Not too bad but not great"
I think you mean absolute shit, friend. It's not even Ben 10 anymore considering the art style, runtime, alien design, and plot.

>>91166763
I have absolutely no training in the relevant fields, and I'd LOATHE being the "ideas guy". Just have Genndy train a bunch of acolytes and have them create shows.

>>91166634
>Fucking Apple & Onion got greenlit
>Not Infinity Train or Twelve Forever

Fucking how? I mean, Apple & Onion was okay as a pilot, but not the best by far.

>>91166542
nowhere near as bad as the Hanna-Barbera years

>>91167185
The two best friends dynamic is easy to work with and advertise?

>>91166582
shit sells like hotcakes anon

>>91166757
but they DID green-light Long Live the Royals

>>91166996
Cause there's very little in the way of original cartoons on youtube

>>91165793

>Disney
>better future

hate to break it to you but their future line up is nothing but rebooted garbage.

Star is the only original thing they have going for them now. That brief silver age they had is over.

>>91167185
because those shows probably take longer to prepare?

>>91166020
>>91166103
>>91166758
I said future, not current.

Pinky and Wayne look pretty interesting for their future line up.

>>91167247
That's what I heard, months upon months ago, and got really excited about. But since then, not a peep. Wouldn't it be listed here if that were true?

please give me reason to hope anon

>>91166634
Due to the poor preformance of nuPPG, CN most likely decided not to pick-up anything with a female lead

>>91166665
enjoy your Apple & Onion
you deserve it

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>>91166103
I've lost hope for Pinky Malinky, but Welcome to the Wayne looks promising. I loved the six online shorts, so if the show doesn't stray too far off from that, then I'm hooked.

>>91167281
why would it be listed if its not coming out right now?

>>91167325
So you think it's just going to be in the pipeline for longer?

>>91166801
>preferring the work of sub-humans, instead of supporting the pure-white Aryan master race

SJW tumblr cuck

>>91166743
YES!

>>91167185
Twelve Forever is objectively shit you waifufag.

>>91167158
I'd heavily recommend watching that entire part, Battle Tendency. The dub is competent and complete (with Benjamin Diskin aka Numbuh 1 as Joseph) and most people agree it's the best animated part with the best Jojo.

>>91167371
god do you /pol/tards have to bring race war bullshit into every thread about cartoons for fucking children

>>91167270
still not enough, and there is a 100% chance they will get the Harvey Beaks treatment

>>91167358
Alongside Infinity Train and Twelve Forever, yes

>>91167262
FUTURES, anon. Billy Dilley and Country Club are upcoming original series from really promising creators (Aaron Springer, and Chris & Shane Houghton).

And even if Disney had nothing but reboots in store, it's still obvious that they'd be nothing like the shitty ones from Cartoon Network. Tangled: The Series is pretty good, DuckTales is bound to be great, and it's likely that Big Hero 6'll be an action-comedy similar to the original Teen Titans.

I really wish you guys would stop critically analyzing shows clearly marketed towards 8 year olds.

>>91167162
it is still better than Ultimate Alien

>>91167425
>triggered over blatant shit posting
/co/mblr is real

>>91167464
No art or media is beyond criticism

>>91167464
I wish the west made more adult shows that weren't comedies.

>>91167322
>Welcome to the Wayne
My nigga.
I am afraid though that Nick hasn't shown shit from the new version of the show. I already want this to air.

>>91167425
then liberals should keep their degeneracy out of children's cartoons!

>>91166763
>>91166814
>>91166872
>>91167162
I love how 4chan is essentially admitting to be inferior to Tumblr

>>91167489
criticism is worthless when its spouting memes about artstyles and calling things trash before watching them

>>91167559
Well then you should have specified that you doofus

>>91167162
>Just have Genndy train a bunch of acolytes
He already did, most of them are doing the current shows

>>91166837
has niggers
just as bad

>>91167544
Are you implying cartoonist are inherently superior to non-cartoonist? lol

>>91167437
hey bro saying this from a stand point of actually knowing people at disney but all of the reboots are extremely messy.

tangled rushed to get board artists because nobody wanted to work on it, nobody is happy with bh6 because nobody knows what direction to take it and had multiple people leave mid way. duck tales seems to be the only one that has a grip but totally negates that for the fact they fired all of their revisionists at some point for no reason.

one promising cartoon doesn't guarantee the prosperity of the channel when they cancel them so quickly.

>>91167010
I knew I should have kept in the line about "A&O was the only one with a pilot and while I liked it, it wasn't even the most popular"

>>91167478
pretending to be retarded is still being retarded

>>91167023
we were
it lasted from 2010 till 2014

>>91167559
You wouldn't criticize Dora for being a trashs show would you?

>>91165300

I want to think you're b8'ing but honestly, yeah I agree. As a 90's fucker most of my favorite cartoons all had adults as the main characters. Sure I wanted fun cartoons with fun kids like me but I also wanted to see that in a big scary world there were adults out there who could HANDLE THEIR SHIT and that maybe when I grew up I could too.

>Summer Camp Island
>Apple & Onion
>Craig of the Creek
So, which show(s) did the Regular Show board artists go to? They all say they're still at Cartoon Network Studios, but they won't specify what they're working on now.

>>91167185
because after the fiasco that was nuPPG, CN decided to never touch anything with a female lead ever again

>>91164836
What were you honestly expecting?

>>91167674
So you're saying you get irrationally angry at the mentally handicapped for being who they are IRL, too?

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>>91164299
>Fans will be just as surprised as Finn to discover what happened to the kingdoms of Ooo while he was away at sea.

oh-oh no....

>>91167281
>>91167325
>>91167358
The whole thing already aired in 2015

Not surprised nobody noticed

>>91167887
You misunderstand me. After the miniseries was released, it was put out somewhere that Long Live the Royals was going to get a full series. Since then, however, nothing has been said on the subject.

People ITT don't seem to get that Infinity Train would be 100x more adventure of the week than "muh deep high school english class" lore like they crave. Not saying I'm defending the lineup though.

>>91167396
>Twelve Forever is objectively shit
I take it you are looking forward to Summer Camp island then

>>91167185
Infinity train would require at least a decent sense of continuity, and if SU is any example for how CN handles that (screwing with things to make "bombs" the norm) then it wouldn't be great to have a second one.
Twelve Forever is kind of interesting but would get stale extremely fast. 12 can't deal with thing, goes into imaginary-verse or whatever, learns to solve problem/resolves using powers, dude helps her stay grounded. Then eventually things would probably get kind sad or the show dies on a cliffhanger. Also I doubt they could keep Curry because his health isn't that great anymore.

>>91167619
at making cartoons?
yes!

>>91167187
Is it? Is it really? Because I remember Flintstones not looking like Yogi Bear not looking like Underdog not looking like Scooby Doo?

Even if you want to say they did, then answer me, why is the level of detail now reflect greater limitations when we are in an advanced age? Yogi bear was simple because cel animation was expensive. The effort and level of detail clearly was capped because limitation, but it never showed a regression.

>>91166035 is simple... For what? Does it really look like its using cels?

>At the Creek, the rules of the outside world don’t apply in this kid utopia of untamed wilderness where Craig and his two best friends have ventured and tribes of children reign over tree forts and dirt bike ramps. The adventure series is created by Matt Burnett and Ben Levin, formerly from Steven Universe.
Uh oh, this sounds very similar to Mr. Enter's crappy cartoon idea. I wonder how he'll react.

>>91167806
out of those three, Craig of the Creek looks the most promising

>>91166035
Those character designs try to look unique, but fail to do so. I'm liking the look of that background, though. Hopefully, the actual show can keep that style.

>>91167941
>adventure of the week
which is exactly what we want!

>>91165636
>>91165662
George Gendi also helped write five Sanjay and Craig episodes:
>Road Pizza (S01E12b)
>Prickerbeast (S01E15b)
>Curb Dawgz (S01E18a)
>Hot Sauce Boss (S02E01a)
>Cuddle Buddy (S02E10b)

I've recently started watching reruns, and I've gotta say that the show's not that bad. There's tons of flaws, sure, but it can be pretty funny as well. I'm gonna check out these five episodes and see what I think.

>>91166763
If I could just walk into a studio and pitch my idea, I would. Unfortunately, it's not quite that simple. It's damn near impossible to get that opportunity without connections, let alone get greenlit.

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>>91168031
>Flintstones not looking like Yogi Bear
dude, Ranger Smith could very well be one of the characters on the Flintstones
And the guy from Magilla Gorilla is just a recolor of Fred's boss

The Flintstones and the Jetsons even re-used the same character models

>>91164959
>2(250*4)+1+1+1+1+1+12
>expecting anything good out of CN
Watch DisneyXD.

>>91168152
I remember how in the early days proto-SJWs would complain about the lack of diversity, and people just told them to make their own shows.
And they did exactly that.
Not it is YOUR turn to do the same

>>91168203
where cartoons go to die

>The newly reimagined series is executive produced by Nick Jennings and co-executive produced by Bob Boyle, and will continue to further Cartoon Network’s commitment to STEAM education with two additional themed episodes this season.
I assume they mean STEM, but anyway, this whole "STEM education" thing is cringe-worthy. The old Cartoon Network was about embracing childhood, not pushing children to grow up and enter the workplace.

>>91168152
if you really wanted to see your idea on TV, you'd do something about it

>>91168347
if you really want $1 Billion dollars, you'd do something about it

>>91168036
They should just greenlight MrE's show. It would be about the same quality as all their other crap.

>>91167806
Summer Camp Island seems to mainly consist of AT alumni:
>Kent Osborne
>Jack Pendarvis
>Seo Kim
>Steve Wolfhard
I'm not sure if Apple & Onion is gonna be done primarily in Europe like Gumball, so there's no saying for sure whether most RS peeps moved to that or Craig of the Creek.

>>91168335

Yea; they're trying to get Arts classified within the STEM fields, which is stupid

>>91168319
>Anon's statement is true
>Star vs gets low ratings because of this
>Atomic Puppet, Tron, Motorcity and Randy Cunningham suffered the same problem
Why do Disney execs make such retarded decisions?

>>91168036
>Mr. Enter's
who?

>>91168487
>Star vs gets low ratings because of this
It gets low ratings because nobody gives a shit. Gravity Falls got good ratings despite being a XD

>>91168487
because at some point they decided that the Disney Channel will be sitcom-only, and moved all the cartoons to Disney XD, while keeping Disney XD a premium network

Summer Camp Island intrigues me for some reason

I like the weird designs and it looks like a lore show I can get lost in

>>91168251
>>91168347
I actually have recently started putting my idea on paper. Maybe one day it will be more than just a figment of my imagination, but expecting a TV show is a very ambitious and hard to reach goal.

>>91168538
some autist that /co/ claims to hate but obsesses over anyway

>>91168544
that is because the first season aired on the Disney Channel

>>91168544
unlike Star Vs, Gravity Falls started on the main Disney channel and was exposed to a bigger audience

>>91168569
the art looks like it will be a bitch to animate tho

WAY too stiff

>>91168487
It still hurts that Fangbone remains largely unknown because of this

>>91168544
Wasn't it on Disney Channel for its first season though?

>>91167270
What I meant by my post here >>91166103 is that Nickelodeon only seems to give a shit about cartoons that are an immediate success.

The Loud House got extremely lucky very early in it's run, it could've very easily gotten the Nicktoons death treatment like Harvey or any other Nicktoon in the past decade

So, how could it really have a future with cartoons when they don't give 95% of them a fair chance?

>>91168617
Im glad they're taking a chance desu

it looks like an animated children's book from the late 90's

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>>91166035
Ew

>>91168665
Also despite its "huge ratings" The Loud House isn't getting any critical acclaim or awards so its just the TTG of Nick.

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>>91168487
Wander Over Yonder died because of Disney's stupid decisions and for that, I'll never forgive them

>>91168714
>TTG of Nick
Unless Nick starts spamming Loud House marathons everyday, then no, it's not

>>91164299
They said that about justice league action and still only ever seen 2 episodes on cartoon since december

>>91168762
>Unless Nick starts spamming Loud House marathons everyday
Too late

>>91168762
That's pretty much what they've been doing, if SB is on then its the LH.

>literally who bears has a bafta
What

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>>91168811
At least TLH doesn't take up 50% of the fucking schedule

>>91168891
Yes yes we know that CN is fucking retarded but Nick's lineup is getting there for the sheer fact that they've booted most of their cartoons to Nicktoons.

>>91165254
I miss Jim, you ain't him.

>>91167774
I agree, they made me not dread growing up. And those are the kind of toons that get better as the viewer ages. Now, it's the opposite because some clipboards and power points say "kids no want dat shit" apparently.

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>>91165254
Real talk, I actually DO miss Snyder. He was by no means the best CEO (especially following in the footsteps of someone like Staples), but he actually seemed to acknowledge that he fucked up with things like CN Real after he saw what a shithole it was. He ended up making an effort to try and resolve it. Miller makes him look like a God when you compare the two.

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>>91164299
I'm just waiting for CN to release the full pilots for Summer Camp Island and Craig of the Creek as well as Elizabeth Ito's Welcome to My Life and Calvin Wong's Legendary Place.

>>91169026
>Elizabeth Ito's Welcome to My Life and Calvin Wong's Legendary Place
never heard of them, when did news about these shows come out?

>>91168335
>STEAM
Arts does not belong with STEM; I'm a media major and I think this is fucking stupid. It's like how insecure fucks keep adding stupid bullshit onto the LGBT acronym just to feel validated.

>>91166763
I'm trying to get into calarts and then pitch my show idea. Guys can I ask for feedback later?

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>>91165212
I'm sad about its inevitable cancellation, but I'm not surprised.

How many episodes were picked up for Season 3, anyway? Spencer Rothbell keeps hyping it up on Twitter, but CN's still holding back new episodes for some reason.

>>91169151
somethingsomething reeee CalArts muh nostalgia

New SU stuff sounds good. Looking forward to OK KO too.

>>91169151
Well first of its expensive

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>The Powerpuff Girls will continue to promote STEAM education with several themed episodes.

There are going to be math themed Powerpuff Girls episodes. Lots and lots of math episodes. Remember when cartoons were an escape from school?

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>>91169151
By all means, shoot Anon :D

Though as that other guy mentioned, it's pretty expensive for what's it's worth (50k a semester I think?) and really, people only go to because of connections and the name itself

>>91169151
Go to that Chicago school that Rebecca Sugar and Ian went to. It will be expensive but might be cheaper than Cal Arts. Do that or practice drawing and create a decent portfolio. Cal Arts is not the only way into the industry.

>>91169282
>Remember when cartoons were an escape from school?
5 seconds ago?

>>91169235
Oh I know. But considering I'm a foreigner, it's gonna be harder for me to get into the industry.

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>>91169103
Welcome to My Life premiered alongside Apple & Onion way before CN posted the latter on their YouTube channel (http://www.animationmagazine.net/events/cartoon-network-shops-for-talent-at-annecy). It's been showing in various other animation festivals since then (https://www.regularcapital.com/2017/02/welcome-to-my-life-cartoon-network-studios-short-accepted-into-new-york-international-childrens-film-festival).

Legendary Place recently premiered at the GLAS Animation Festival on March 4th (https://mobile.twitter.com/calwong/status/837088865273905152).

People who've attended these festivals haven't said anything, so both pilots naturally fell under the radar.

>>91169151
Despite what /co/ thinks, attending CalArts doesn't guarantee you a job in animation.

>>91169444
I know but it does make things easier. Jorge Gutiérrez, Daron Nefcy, Genndy, Lauren Faust, Alex Hirsch, Brad Bird, Tim Burton and many others went to calarts. And considering I'm a Mexican chick, things aren't gonna be simple. That's why I'm trying with Calarts, I don't think it's the greatest school ever but it gives you valuable connections and an overrated diploma.

>>91168703
Hey this show actually looks like it fits with its backgrounds. Good for it.

>>91169026
To my knowledge Summer Camp Island already has a full short that struck it big on the festival circuit--which means it isn't available outside of that environment.

>>91166763
I'm going to start taking art classes at my college. I have my premise and my plot, but I'm not taking it anywhere until I have a fat stack of storyboards

>>91169282
I couldn't have said it any better myself. Kids aren't going to want to watch a show they associate with school work. If we're lucky, it might negatively effect the network as a whole.

>>91169504
>considering I'm a Mexican chick
oh god. shut the fuck up.

>>91168971
Samples was the one it introduce CN Real, not Snyder. Snyder was left to clean up the mess

>>91169504
Another option would be to set up an impressive portfolio (character design, comics/storyboards) and hopefully get close with CN employees on Twitter/Tumblr by sharing your work to the point where you'll be on their radar.

>>91169151
>>91169504
/co/ knows fuck-all about what actually makes a good cartoon. Study media theory and actual live-action filmmakers.

>>91169338
>SVA
>Chicago

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>>91166110
I wish you were wrong, but the show is moving this way.

Well, RIP Uncle Grandpa and Clarence. They were too good for this world.

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>>91169619
Offended

>>91169423
just watched the WtML short on youtube from 2007

seems like a relaxed show so im surprised at that colorful artstyle

>>91169504
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>>91169532
Who actually judges things at these animation festivals? Are they actual children/animation audiences, or just other animators?

>>91164971
well Matt and Ben work on almost all of their projects together

>>91169532
i want to see the pilot so bad

>>91169699
that is the only SU episode i have never watched and i dont ever plan to

>>91169171
its a shitshow anyways glad its on its way out

>>91169151
>going to school for animation

HAHAHA NIGGA YOU DUMB.

>Invent something (get into the alt. energy or privacy business)
>start a business using loans
>advertise it loud and brash, apple ain't got nothing on you
>pay off loans
>get brought out for billions because that's what our corporatist state leads to
>use dosh to buy your way into animation

t. /biz/co/ filthy cross-poster

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>>91164299
Save us, Jim. Please save us.

>>91169658
This is what I plan to do once I've improve my drawing skills enough, but it'll likely require a lot of luck though to attract a CN employee.

>>91166763
I'm still developing the world and characters and story arcs.

My current character designs also need a little work.

I'm thinking about doing everything myself (except voice acting) and posting it on Youtube, but I'd imagine it would be incredibly difficult

>>91169720
We already knew about Uncle Grandpa.

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>>91169699
Good god, this just shows how creatively bankrupt the modern cartoonist is.

>>91169720
I liked both shows, but I'm not too terribly upset that they're going to be gone soon.

I'm more worried about what CN will replace them with
also, I'm pretty sure we've known the fate for UG for a year now

>>91169699
That is the worst fucking episode of SU, I hated it the first time I watched it, and I hated it even more when I tried to watch it again

>>91167012
>>91166986
>>91166949
Plus their outline writers, not boarders, so their last episode is probably not gonna be for a LONG while (the last SU episode boarded while ian was around was Mr Greg, while the last one outlined with his input was Know Your Fusion)

>>91169911
>I'm thinking about doing everything myself (except voice acting) and posting it on Youtube, but I'd imagine it would be incredibly difficult
It's not impossible, but a YouTube series is unlikely to make any kind of cultural impact, and will probably be forgotten about in 20 years. It's a waste of potential.

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>>91165010
>>91166009
It better not be. I don't want to live in a world where TTGo is renewed but JLA is cut down before it had a chance to shine.

>>91169793
Usually a panel of media professionals doing the majority of the awards, and then a tertiary "audience favorite" award as well.

>>91166986
plus EEne was produced at AKA cartoon, not CN studios

>>91170071
So no kids then?

>>91170054
Yeah, that's the other thing I was worried about.
I fear it would either gain a small following or none at all.

The only reason I'd want to go that route is for more creative freedom and I lose no rights

>>91169903
Not really. Try starting a comic and pump out work consistently in a way that can reach people easily.

>>91170054
so is literally any piece of art you make, but I think its worth it if you plan to use it as leverage

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Has Apple and Onion changed it's aesthetic since the pilot?
Also I'm very glad that this fuckin' thing may never get picked up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dINks29CdPQ

>>91168921
They've literally been doing that for fucking years for the Sponge. TLH is the first show they didn't.

>>91164299
If these are good or bad won't matter as long as they keep junking the majority of their timeslots with Teen Titans Go.

Good to see We Bare Bears and Gumball aren't actually ending yet despite previous rumors. Been indifferent on Adventure Time for a long time now.

The 'new' Ben 10 is middling okay. It goes back to some of the original formula, with some different aliens, but seems to be focused more on high paced comedy hijinks without the bits of seriousness that decorated the original.

And no mention of Justice League Action? That's premiered internationally like Ben 10 did, what did CN/DC fuck up this time?

>>91170208
Good God, Bottom's Butte was terrible

>>91170099
I've only been to my city's international film festival (which is probably around mid-road, not small but not on the level of Cannes or Berlin either) and they had two separate animation categories for mature animation and family-friendly animation. I only made it to the family-friendly one and they had maybe a dozen or so kids. I don't think kids were allowed into the mature showing.

Later this year I'm trying to go to OkIFA which is solely animation; it'll probably have a different atmosphere.

>>91170244
>TLH is the first show they didn't.
But they have. TLH airs more days and have more marathons than shows that are older than it. Its pretty much what FOP was over a decade ago.

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>>91170226
>Everything about this post
Can you please just off yourself already?

>>91166634
That show and Victor & Valentino were the only two pilots I got excited for, now we got this retarded Apple & Onion shit about two fucking manchildren who are:-

>le relatable
>le nerdy
>le socially awkward
>le manchildren
>le crush on hot popular gurl

Like, wow, a show about fruits and veggies and food, but with human emotions! Suuuuuper original!

Fuck Cartoon Network.

>>91169151
I hope you think you'll get offered a pitch when you get in there. My friend goes there and he's seen freshmen try and it's embarrassing. Work you way up, senpai.
You should also talk to trusted friends and family, not the internet about our ideas.

>>91164299
>>91170051
So, the only SU writers left are Rebecca Sugar, Kat Morris, and Joe Johnston, implying that they're most likely working on figuring out the ending of the series? How likely is it that they'll hire another writer?

>>91170319
And the pilot so far was literally just "b urself".
Talk about playing it fucking safe.

>>91170319
While I did find Apple & Onion moderately charming, the premise itself definitely wasn't worth making a full show about. George Gendi's gonna need to develop the hell out of it to make it more creative and distinguished.

I definitely would've preferred Victor and Valentino.

>>91170208
was there some hate around that pilot or something? It seemed decent

>>91170043
what the hell is wrong with you that you had the desire to watch that thing a second time?
I haven't watched it and never will, seems absolutely boring as fuck

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>>91170458
What, Bottom's Butte?
I think the fact the title of the show speaks louder than the pilot ever could. It's not as clever as it likes to think it is.
I mean I could make a show called The Adventures of Dick Peen, but that would be retarded

>>91170319
>Victor & Valentino

What's with cartoon network shows and parental/family turmoil? I don't want to be reminded of that shit when I'm watching a comedy show.

>>91170502
Well I like watching episodes more than once to decide if it truly was as bad as I thought it was.

Some SU episodes I didn't enjoy the first time around but I liked better the second time around.
But this episode just happened to be one of the episodes that gets worse with each rewatch

>>91167686
What was the show that killed it?

>>91169423
I really admire that Elizabeth Ito and Sam Marin (Pillywags Mansion) tried making pilots in different mediums, and I'm further impressed at how CN carried on with their visions.

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>>91165254
We would still have DC nation and wouldn't be dealing with TTGO 24/7 so no this meme is shit

>>91168921
At least Nick does boot them to their other channel. Boomerang doesn't even show their previous toons anymore, it's either super old Looney Tunes/Hanna-Babara or WHY THE FUCK IS TTG AND NUPPG ON BOTH CHANNELS???

What a load of garbage.

>2nd season of PPG

Read: left over episodes from before we cancelled it for not selling toys

>>91170514
it didnt seem like it was trying to be "smart"

it looked like the better Regular Show offspring compared to Apple & Onion imo

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>>91170578
>complaining about Boomerang airing old looney tunes and Hanna barbera cartoons
>complaining about it serving its purpose

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>>91164299
Can someone please tell me what the hell was THIS supposed to be?!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLg6KfZlgBuDWW0thUpAL2_P1ro7wOG0Yz&v=d4Gtwye1bs4

>>91170744
It's like Home Movie but without H Jon Benjamin.
So a shitty Home Movies.

the real question is where's Back to Backspace???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0AOHQKDioM

>>91170744
Victor Courtright was a writer/storyboard artist on Pickle and Peanut and also boarded the one of first OK K.O.! shorts (https://youtube.com/watch?v=uTxIEr20QzI). I dunno what else to tell you, man.

>>91170203
TV episodes get millions of US viewers on their first airing, whereas YouTube videos are lucky to get a few thousand worldwide. There's definitely a huge difference in how they'll be publicised.

Also, if a show is aimed at an audience younger than teenagers, it'll be much harder to reach them. (Yes, some kids watch YouTube, but the majority of viewers will probably be teenagers and/or adults)

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i just wanted to know what Craig of the Creek was about

>>91170864
Back to Backspace is dead, dude. Dominic Bisignano's been working on Star vs the Forces of Evil since Season 1, and Amalia Levari recently finished her job writing on Harvey Beaks; I don't know what she's up to now, but it definitely doesn't involve this pilot.

>>91170289
>I only made it to the family-friendly one and they had maybe a dozen or so kids.
Did those kids actually get to influence the awards? or were they just watching on the side?

>>91166763
I don't understand things such as plot or character development and have mediocre art skills.

>>91168703
Nice

Too bad the tag for the show's gonna be inconsistent AF

>>91170973
I meant towards the eventual goal of trying to get a TV show (aka using it as leverage)

>>91170058
KYS waifufag

>>91170358
"Be Yourself" is not only overused, it's not even all that good a moral. The TV Tropes page explained it better than I could: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BeYourself

>>91171112
Yeah, I know, that's why I mentioned it.
Thanks for linking me to a cancer website that'll just tell me everything I already know, though.

>>91170998
damn
well, I like SVTFOE so im glad for Dominic

>>91164299
I enjoyed Apple and Onion but it feels to same-y to RS and other 'two buddies dicking around' cartoons like it, it needs something that sets it apart from the others

>>91170319
>le crush on hot popular gurl
Oh God no... let me guess, it's going to be yet another show where grade school kids act like teenagers.
Shows like The Simpsons can at least be somewhat excused because they're aimed at adults, but there's no excuse for representing children poorly in a show that's fucking aimed at them.

>>91164916
can confirm this. CN is going in a more kid-friendly direction & shows similar to AT & RS will not be picked up. TTG has shown them that that age range is making a ton of money, so they're trying to cater to it as much as possible now.

>>91171195
Actually, they're adults who act like nerdy children with poor social skills, so it's even worse.

>>91171102
Oh, I guess that could work. It's still difficult for shows aimed at children though. I don't think a network is going to greenlight a show just because a bunch of old people on YouTube like it.
(Yes, I'm aware The Annoying Orange exists, but that was during a time when Cartoon Network was recovering and was desperate for animated content)

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>>91165254
You mean him?
Reminder he lost his job, because Bostonian cops are fucking incompetent and didn't want to take the blame for their fuck ups.

>>91171229
>We Bare Bears (TV-Y7)
>nuPPG (TV-Y7 FV)
>Mighty Magiswords (TV-Y7)
>OK K.O.! Let's Be Heroes (TV-Y7)
>Summer Camp Island (most definitely TV-Y7)
Sounds about right.

>3 adventure time miniseries
fucking pissed

>>91164836

What the fuck else would they air?

>>91171431
They saw that OTGW did well and only took away "miniseries".

>>91170208
Minty Lewis ruins everything

>>91171395
How do you know that OK K.O.!'s gonna be TV-Y7? We've got a long way till promos start airing on TV.

>>91172129
Probably because this Miller chick fears anything that skews too old and wants the whole network to be bland and child friendly.

>>91171431
I think 4 in total. It seemed like a kinda recent Marcy VA interview implied they were working on one at the time and I'm sure this upcoming arc had been finished by then.

I'd say 3 for now but a 4th is possible. 9th season hasn't even aired yet so I'm sure it has one.

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>>91172129
I got this screencap from Cartoon Network's official web site, IIRC.

>>91169026
>>91169423
Do we have a synopsis for Legendary Place?

>>91165010
It's soooo dead. Justice League action never had a chance.

>>91167023
Disney XD's looking pretty good

>>91164836
its their spongebob

>>91164299
>First thing is (food item) & (food item) show

Who is in charge of this shit?

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>>91168703
The animation on this show better be fluid and lively as hell 'cause I can't stand how simplistic all the character designs seem to be.

>>91165254
compared to what we have now... Yes I do!
And lets not forget that if it wasn't for snyder we wouldn't have adventure time, regular show, steven universe and the amazing world of gumball!

>>91172866
>steven universe
I'm not the "dude that guy's baiting" guy, but that's not a good series beyond season 1. Gumball is fine either way.

AT and RS stayed good for awhile then became a mixed bag, but were still the accepted highlights of the decade.

SU is only considered a highlight by the overobsessive fans that get into "that" stuff that I won't say, lest it distract from my point.

>>91172711
What is this from?!

>>91173053
season 2 of SU was better than 1

>>91173098
Season 3 was a lot better than Seasons 1 and 2.

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>>91171111
I like the humor in that webm. Not Killer Frost's killer ass even though that's nice too.

I just think the action is decent and the humor is actually funny and not retarded.

>>91173053
Gumball wasn't good beyond its first two seasons, frankly

>>91170357
Doesn't Amber help with stuff too?

>>91173160
But the first season is by far the most bland out of all of them

2 BRICKS

>>91173195
Maybe if the only humor you like is tryhard metahumor

>>91173124
Season 4 is easily the best one.

>>91173257
The bants have gone too far now.

>>91165454
>Amazing World of Gumballs

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>>91166035
And already the art style looks uninspiring and too simplistic.

>>91173670
I actually looked to see if that tweet was real, turns out it isn't. I'm glad though, because if Trump actually DID say that, people would blindly disagree with him and the show would become popular.

>>91164299
>Go Titans Go
>The Amazing World of Gumballs
Proofreading, while a thankless job, is an important one

>>91167437
Aren't Matt Braly and Dana Terrace each working on their own pilots as we speak?

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cute

>>91174428
Very cute!

>>91174428
So anyone thinking that Carol is going to end up as the favorite character?

>>91164299
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y81ytPbuOmw

How the hell did he sell this idea to the executives?