JACK KIRBY

>>91140741
Thank you anon

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you left out the best one faggot

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>>91140791
You're welcome, anon

>>91140892
Still posting, sorry

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not kirby, but it's a homage to his work so bite me

Captain Victory needs a collection a decade ago. Image almost did it, but that disappeared. Fuck.

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Last one for your humble OP

I look forward to seeing what you people post when I get home!

Kirby has an amazing way of being a shitty artist and a brilliant artist all at the same time.

>>91140918
This

>>91141078
How the hell is Kirby shitty in any way? If you mean his weird faces and posture, you should know that it's deliberate. If you look at this early work in shitty romance comics, he does perfect realistic anatomy and typical manly men and pretty girls. But as time progressed, he grew beyond simple representation and began to master iconography itself in terms of power, color, symbolism, and especially movement.

There's nothing about Kirby you can even PRETEND is anything close to shitty.

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>>91140665

>>91140665
he's a meme artist favored by reddit

>>91140892
My favorite thing about Kirby is how he drew everything to have its own intricacies. It's not overcomplicated, but at the same time it feels like there's a history and a story to every piece of the picture.

>>91140966
>Kamandi take place in the far future
>Legion of Superheroes takes place after

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>>91141211
I have a hard time appreciating Darkseid when drawn by other artists. They veer too far from Kirby's aesthetic a lot of the time, and I mean character-wise too.

>>91141303
Darkseid with normal-ish eyes is super creepy to me, and I love it.

>>91141184

Simmer down kid. The proportions and dimensions on a lot of his weird tech is a mess. Often sides would seem flat yet have greebles of undefined shape and size. Perspective points are often a mess on his sci-fi stuff. I love his art. He had a dynamism most comic artists only dream of. But he's not perfect. He was somewhat lucky/skilled in that how he used ilhis imperfections helped give his art life.

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>>91141303

>>91140937
Scorpinok always confused me. Sometimes he's the size of everyone else, sometimes slightly bigger, then sometimes enormous.

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>get baked
>get on /co/
>see this thread
>mfw

>>91141303

I think Lee is the worst offender I've ever seen. Kirby's had a strange brutish regal majesty. Lee's is a big bruiser in armor.

>>91140675
Wasn't this for a movie or something ?

>>91141509
It was for an adaptation of the novel "Lords of Light" and then the government used it for the whole Argo thing.

>>91141509
It used by the US government as a ploy get hostages out of Iran by pretending to make a sci fi film.

If someone took all of Kirby's art and ideas to create a religion I'd follow it.

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>>91141509
Yeah Lord of Light. It didn't happen, and later the art was used in a CIA hostage situation where they posed as a film crew and Kirby's art served as production design. They made a movie about it, Argo.

>>91141570
>>91141597
Shit I took so long making sure my facts were okay that you guys beat me to it.

>>91141184
Sky Masters is another example of Kirby doing more conventional work.
And damn, it's pretty to read those strips. Inker also did an amazing work.

>>91141636
Do you even anti-life, bro?

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>>91141279
actually, In the new map of the multiverse, stuff like Kamandi and OMAC take place in their own universe.

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>>91141769

>>91142247

Also Kirby always meant for Kamandi to be Saturday morning cartoon Planet of the Apes and its own thing. Other people had him appear in Brave and the Bold, making things weird.

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>>91140966
>Strange Fire Area

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>>91141419
Dude

weed

lmao

>>91142308
He had Superman's costume appear in Kamandi, though.

>>91142400

Yeah, a thing we have by the thousand.

>>91140665
Samurai Galactus?

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>>91142442
A group worshiping a Party City Superman costume would certainly be an interesting story (the Gods must be crazy!) but I really don't think that was Kirby's intention.

>>91141184
He had a really hard time with any sort of complex perspective outside of the dozen prefab angles he had burned into his muscle memory and had a tendency to rely on certain visual shorthand techniques so often it was immersion breaking at times.

He was great artist and some of his issues were clearly intentional tradeoffs so he could pump out work quickly/focus on details, but he wasn't without fault.

Shit, it took him about half a year to figure out how to draw Devil Dinosaur consistently.

Did Kirby influence DC or Marvel more?

>>91142837
DC in my opinion, his New Gods have become a huge part of DC lore.

>>91142837
He created Marvel as we know it today, sans Spider-Man.
He helped redefine DC.

Everyone actually inspired by him, however, took all the wrong lessons. It's a shame.

>>91142837
Almost certainly Marvel. His DNA is baked into Cap/Thor/FF as well as offshoot characters like Galactus/SSurfer/T'Challa.

>>91142912

Except for Mignola.

>>91141184
>There's nothing about Kirby you can even PRETEND is anything close to shitty.
His early Captain America had pretty shitty character designs, but the sense of movement was still fantastic, as always.

>>91143341
He took more from Pratt than Kirby.

>>91140665
i love how thoroughly he influenced jesse moynihan

>>91140966
>KANGA RAT MURDER SOCIETY
>COMMUNI-BEAR SILO STATE
>MAO-TSE-TIGERS LITTLE RED BOOK WARS
>POLAR PARASITES
>HOME OF THE HORRIBLE HUNG-UPS, THE DEATH WORSHIPPERS
>united states of lions
>SNAKE CITY OF GOLD

was this comic just the greatest source of fucking perfect band names in history?

>>91141392
>anon on the internet thinks he understands the elements of art better than jack fucking kirby

If you don't understand why is his art is good, then just admit it and I can help you. If you don't admit it, then you'll just be a whiny contrarian for the rest of your life.

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>>91144464
Kamandi is metal AS FUCK my dude

>>91144595
He's right about certain perspective uses, when there's not reason to deform some items, tho.
But honestly, that makes the thing even more charming.

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>>91140665
>What work is underrated?
His 70's Marvel work.

Captain America, Black Panther, Eternals, 2001, Devil Dinosaur, and Machine Man never get much love

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>>91144657
>when there's not reason to deform some items

There's plenty of need. It's called 'style'.

If every artist followed the 'formula' you and that other guy want, every single artist would crank out the exact same stuff, down to the letter.

I'll bet you think that the MCUs 'concrete aesthetic' is the best thing since sliced bread.

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Tell me again /co/...why does this man live?

>>91144785
It's a little fuzzy but I think the John Byrne OMAC mini established he was stuck in a weird time loop where he is ultimately responsible for his own creation

I can't remember if it was complicated or just dull, some really nice black and white art though

>>91140966
>Orangutan Surfing Civilization
Sounds like the best place on that fucked up world

>>91143503
Syd Shores Cap > Kirby Cap > Bill Finger Cap > [Gigantic Fucking Power Gap] > Every other Golden Age Cap artist/writer.

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>>91144883
WRONG, you fucking punk, report to the nearest police precint or face the WRATH of BROTHER EYE for believing in the words of a PEDOPHILE. OMAC LIVES SO THAT MAN MAY LIVE.

>>91144719
There's a difference between style and not even bothering to get perspective right because it's hard and you plan to crank out 200 pages by the end of the month.

Kirby's a great artist, but he's not some flawless god of pencilling.

>>91144719
Mate, you know shit about my tastes and opinions.

See here >>91140892 for example, which is a very impressive illustration, by the way. But you can see that lines don't align ones with each other, and the is an inconsistent vanishing point over all the elements in the structure that you cannot explain by being the product of a deformed perspective that I doubt is mean to be there (much more likely to be the product of working without a cage in which encage all the elements to be consistent between themselves).

But it's alright. He didn't care, probably, because being accurate is not the point of the work. And neither do I.

>>91144719
Don't you even fucking dare bring the MCU into this thread. This is a holy space and I WILL ask you to leave if you do it again.

That being said, I agree with you for the most part. But "style" is a dumbass excuse for bad artists. Kirby didn't need style. Kirby knew exactly which maxims of art he was flouting every time he did it. He knew exactly what rules he was breaking, how he was breaking them, and to what degree.

And he did it all brilliantly. Kirby isn't just the greatest comics artist, he's one of the best artists of the 20th century, easily. Even though he's so beloved, he still isn't fully understood by the majority of his fans, much less his detractors.

What Kirby was doing in the 70s is still a subject of intense debate. Kirby is no less subversive and brilliant than the likes of Warhol or Kurosawa. He saw things that we can't even imagine, and we still haven't uncovered the richest aspects of his work.

He was a master in every sense of the word. "Style" had no meaning to him. The fact that he was all of this and more, PLUS he was humble and had a good work ethic is baffling. Those things almost never go hand in hand.

>>91145271
Shame on me, sometimes my English is just plain bad. I hope I made my point clear.

>>91145271
>being accurate isn't the point of work
>i don't care
>but i'm going to point it out anyway as if it's supremely relevant

Are you retarded? Do you think that the development of art ended with the realism of the Renaissance? Kirby understood perspective far better than you or I ever will, and he knew how and when to abandon it for the effects he desired. Knowing how to break the rules of art is the truest measure of a great artist.

>>91145271
Not the guy you're talking to, but to say Kirby isn't the (or at least a) god of pencillers is a bit out.

He, along with people like CC Beck, Eisner and other golden and silver age creators pretty much laid down the "rules" by which the whole of western (even french creators) and lots of eastern graphic narrative still play by. Even the more experimental and out there mainstream pencillers' work can still be traced back to Kirby's huge vocabulary.

>>91145374
>>91145410
Okey.

Nevermind.

>>91145472
Sometimes it's nice to see someone just accept the truth presented to them for once. Thank you anon.

>>91141222
just like your mother

Anyone acting like he's beyond reproach instead of just being very good, creative and fast should really check out books Devil Dinosaur.

He's great, no doubt, but idol worship dulls our ability to assess and grow.

>>91143341
Or Bruce Timm or Darwyn Cooke

>>91145676
What the hell are you trying to accomplish with stupid posts like this?

Are you honestly suggesting that Kirby is a lesser artist because he took some jobs that he didn't give a shit about? Doing mediocre jobs for a paycheck does not diminish REMOTELY what he did with actual passion.

Also Devil Dinosaur is great, so fuck you.

>>91145295
This post reminds me of a story about Art Spiegelman, he was giving a lecture about comics artists and how influential they are on the medium he mentioned Will Eisner and other people whose name I forget. One of the students mentioned Jack Kirby while Art acknowledge his work he tried to downplay how important he was. I think it has to do with his work being so tied to the superhero and science fiction genres, his art is amazing but for some people it's attached to corporate images who put brand first over artist.

>>91142912
>everyone inspired by him

So literally every comic artist that got into the business post-Kirby? There hasn't been a single American comic produced post-1970 that doesn't use core Kirby innovations to the medium.

>>91146078
Spiegelman is incredibly pretentious and it was in his interest from a business perspective to downplay artists in the superhero world, no matter how superior they were.

>>91146078
Stories like this (and I've heard a lot of stories about Spiegelman diminishing cape writers) really make mne want to throw my Maus copy in the trash.

Did these fuckers came out of the fucking womb reading their local comix zine about taking LSD annally while killing cops? Also, from a pacing/ narrative standpoint, Spiegelman is really mediocre and could never pack in 100 pages what Kirby managed to pack in 22.

>>91146128
It's not a new thing Jack Kirby for a while was treated as a old man trying to recapture magic at the end of his life. Art and the fandom at large tried to move away from him, but no one really has because guess what? People still use his work today. Also while I do think Maus is an important book I can say Jack Kirby is really more important than all the praise Maus got.

>>91146262
I work in a comic shop and around the Jewish high holidays I use it to spotlight Jewish creators, characters and comics, I always leave Maus out because I don't want all the comics to be about the Holocaust and to show the history I always put in two Jack Kirby books.

>>91141416
Its simple. The toy was just a really big figures, so the comics treated his(and Fort Max's) size as relative to their toy sizes; just really big compared to everyone else. The animated series took them as actual city sized bots.

The former makes more sense, since, by having Headmasters, they have a very defined scale unless you take size changes into effect.

>>91146397
You're a good anon, anon. Hope you put out some Ragman.

>>91146597
I WISH. DC has not put out a Ragman collection so I'm limited on that front.

>>91146640
They haven't? The fuck? That's a damn shame.

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I just picked up the complete Eternals run in floppies, have you ever read the letters section in a comic from Kirby's 70's return to Marvel?

It's fucking painful. It reads like a bunch of /co/ shitposters and it's nearly unanimously negative all about how he's a fossil and his style is dated and he should be replaced by Adams or Buscema. It really makes me sad to know he probably saw that.

>>91146049
>"Jobs he didn't care about"
>When the example is literally a book he did for fun.

The point is that he's not infallible. DD is fun, but Kirby struggled to get a grip on how to draw DD and the other dinos for most of the run. Jerking him off like you are is a disservice to his legacy. You need to be able to accept the good and the bad and be able to discuss points of contention instead of pitching a fit.

>>91146397
>most of the founding fathers of the comic industry are jewish
>Spiegelman is still the official jew representative

Keep up the good work dude

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Remember when they were commissioning art for the gold record that got sent into space and Kirby submitted a drawing of humans as superheroes so aliens wouldn't come fuck with us?

Kirby seemed like he'd be a cool guy to hang out with

>>91146756
Marvel and DC never appreciated him til he was gone.

>>91146914
This is true of most great artists, sadly. Kirby's early death is probably the only reason he got a good deal of posthumous fame. Otherwise it wouldve taken several more decades or more to rediscover his genius, like VanGogh.

>>91146049
You're kind of psychotic.

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>>91146756
>It reads like a bunch of /co/ shitposters

Some things never change.

>>91146914
wonder what's out now that's gonna be appreciated down the line

>>91146831
Reminds me of how people like to bring up Patricia Highsmith as a major golden age creator but her work did not break any new ground and any character she contributed too is now in the public domain. The only reason people tend to bring her up at all is well being a female gay creator, when her impact might as well be getting coffee to an editor. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHICH BOOKS SHE WORKED ON!

>>91146873
If this is true, this is the most hilariously but common sense driven and thus awesome thing ever.

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>>91147123
tbqh she was a qt. Which reminds me of when people went medieval over Gail Simone being fired for her mediocre books while fucking Karen Berger aka one of the most important people in the history of the Big Two (as far as I care, at least) was being fired at the same time for reasons no one really knows.

>>91147519
I thought the reason was Vertigo was tanking (which wasn't really her fault, but explain that to executives)?

>>91146756
I heard a lot of those "fan letters" were actually by the hack writers and artists staffed there at the time.

>>91141279
maybe the Earth wasn't destroyed so much as abandoned by most humans to live on other planets (earth was under quarantine because of some futuristic virus)

>few hundred years later Earth is fine
>everyone moves back
>year 3000 its Legion of Superheroes

A lot of Kirby stuff was being published when I was a kid, though comics back then would turn up unpredictably in kiosks with no clear schedule, i'd just walk past and see some random issue of moon knight with Sienkiewicz's art when he started to get experimental, or find an issue of Kirby's Machine Man or his Captain America or FF

>>91146128
Eisner also never gave Kirby's art any respect, most likely because Kirby used to work for his studio.

Esiner could come across as incredibly stubborn in his comic views. For example he was initially dismissive of Usagi Yojimbo just because Sakai used animals instead of people, his introduction to one of the volumes is essentially full of backhanded compliments.

Also Barry Windsor-Smith taking a swing at Maus is one of the best things ever published in a Comics Journal interview

>>91147519
>that Steranko
Holy fucking YUM

>>91142198
>>91142225
i like that darkseid has the literal god of PR on his payroll

>>91142198
> those signs
Now I'm just thinking about the god that hates you from Oglaf

> you can't make him angry
> he was already angry with you!

>>91148269
I'm not surprised, when I made that High Holiday recommendations I had to convince the people to avoid putting Maus up because it's read in middle school anyway we don't need to push it, and also I'm tired of Holocaust stories. There are many great creators who are Jewish with many different styles that should be recognized even now. Plus Jack Kirby is so important to comics that even with his flaws you should know about him.

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>>91147625
They fired her for no stated reason, and if the reason was Vertigo tanking, I still feel like public outrage could keep her position (like it did with Simone).

Also, wrong pic (there's lewds as well, go ask /lit/, I ain't posting them on a blue board)

>>91148816
There's quasi-lewds from him as well, what a HUNK tbqhnhf

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>>91140665
Adore Kirby.

Glad there's a thread for this master.

One of the few names of any kind of popular person that I'll send a rest in peace to.

R.I.P. King Kirby. Comics are better off because of you.