Superman is evil for most of Justice League

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>>91087404
>Superman is the main villain for first and second act
BETTER CALL CLOWN BITCH AND BOOMERANG THROWING AUSSIE THEN

>>91087404
>Superman is the main villain for first and second act

Aaaand is shit.

>>91087404
BvS wasn't divisive

it was shit

>>91087484
I was being polite

>>91087509
to who some /tv/ shitposter?

>>91087484
>>91087521
>being this triggered

>>91087404
>Man of murder is evil for most of Justice League
Surprising absolutely no one

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>>91087404

Except the leaks (which are all but confirmed at this point) explicitly state Supes in a purgatory like state for the majority of the movie before being temporarily brainwashed by Steppenwolf.

>>91087521
>to who
TO WHOM, tard.

>>91087468
Are you retarded? We knew this from bvs. Superman is brought back by the new gods, he is under their control, and Lois is the key to make him snap out.
In the bad time-line Lois dies, in this batman saves Lois.

I would rather be Superman be dead for 2/3rds of the movie than brainwashed.

>>91087557
That makes no sense.

>>91087521
Seriously one of them was defending Sucker Punch. They do not deserve to be considered "people".

>>91087404
The first act is getting the team together. Supes will be under mind control for the second act. In the third act he'll be free and save the world again.

>>91087557
>He has back from death
totes legit

>>91087404
Even if the details are up in the air, Superman is defo going through a brainwashing phase.

This movie is going to shit on his character. like every other piece of shit Snyder has done.

>>91087404
>Superman is the main villain for first and second act
Gotta source on that, pham? That second leak" is as obvious as the sun coming up in the East tomorrow morning.

>>91087560
What leaks do you speak of, and how are they confirmed?

>>91087557
>Snyder jumping at opportunity to portray Superman as a menace, even if only in an alternate timeline
I believe it.

>>91087404
>This is going to be even more divisive than BvS
but everyone with at least half a brain knew that was a shit movie

>>91087404
>Superman is the main villain for first and second act
lmao Snyder just never learns does he

>>91087404
i didn't know they were planning to turn injustice: gods among us to a movie.

>>91087404
Nice receding hairline Supes

>>91087567
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqGxz8TnwDc

Is Superman being a hero too much for Snyder?

Why does he think that antihero Superman is a good idea?

Superman as an antihero might work if the writer knew what they were doing but Snyder does not know what he is doing. It almost feels wrong for me to type 'antihero Superman'

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>>91087404
Superman looks like that one balding uncle everyone has that grows his hair fucking long as some kind of compensation, and it looks creepy as shit.

WB has embraced the horror. Just kill me.

>>91087404
Oh dear god give him a hairpiece or something

Superman shouldn't be some low test balding twat

>>91087987
Because his libertarian ass believes people can only do things for personal gain, benefit, and growth. The idea of altruism is unable to his have a place in his fundamental perceptions of sentient behavior. Therefore the fact that Superman behaves altruistically can only be rewarded with manipulation by those who behave the way he believes people should, thereby demonstrating the flaw in behaving altruistically.

>>91088061
Thats not Low test thats overtest.

>>91088091
Side effect of his muscle gain serum then?

>>91087484
yes it was

it was great

>>91088091
Wouldn't totally bald be overtest?

Whatever he's got going on is just sad.

>>91087557
>Evil Superman kills everyone, causing Flash to time-travel to Bruce Wayne's dream and give him a vague clue about Lois Lane rather than saying "DON'T LET SUPERMAN DIE, TALK IT OUT FAGGOT"
W E W LADS.

>>91088022
That's a fan made image, you dip.

But he was already the villain in the last 3 DCEU movies wasn't he?

And into the trash it goes.

>>91088131
Seems like they needed a reason to have Lois in the movie

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>>91088121
He was otter-body in Immortals, and full of luxurious hair.
Now he's a ripped Man of Bald.

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>>91087557

>>91088146
He wasn't the villain in SS, but I get you're shitpost.

>>91087557
What scares me is that this makes slightly more sense than your average Goyer plot write-up.

>>91088225
He was the reason why the SS was created

Just like how Hitler is the implied bad guy of WW2 movies even if he doesn't show up personally

>>91088249
>Superman is literally Hitler
kek, Snyder is that you? Why do you hate Superman so much? He's a good guy

>>91088162
They do know they don't have to try this hard, right? Like, they're aware that there's 75 years of source material they can get a starting point from, right?

>>91088249
SS was created in case there was an evil or hostile Super -tier meta. Not because of Superman himself, who was KIA at the time.

>>91088298
>Like, they're aware that there's 75 years of source material they can get a starting point from, right?
Wait what?

>>91088061
This.

Superman has a little bit of a receding hairline but he isn't JUST tier like Cavill.

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>>91088393
>Superman has a little bit of a receding hairline but he isn't JUST tier like Cavill.
LITERALLY

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>>91087404
Why does Zack the Hack have such a massive boner for an Evil Superman ?

>>91088471
He clearly never outgrew DKR.

>>91088471
Someone post the Christ painting NAAAARGH edit.

>>91088471
Superman represents authority
Some people believe that authority is equivalent to oppression

>>91087462
The suicide squad are a team meant to do the work the government doesn't want to get its hands dirty with, not an evil Superman contingency plan.

How did Ayer fuck that up?

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>>91088463
Nice cherry-pick sketch you have there.

>>91088471
Wouldn't his heat vision melt his glasses instead of shatter them?

>>91088571
Literally a style guide for the character made by a publishing executive. Nothing cherrypicked about it. It is how the character was intended to be drawn by all artists for a time.

>>91088225
But he was the Big Bad, the final boss, the reason why Skwad was formed in the first place.

Kinda how Sheev is one of the villains of Empire even though he doesn't show up until Jedi.

>>91087404
Bullshit. They wouldn't make superman the big bad, especially after Batman vs Superman. He may be temporarily fighting the JLA due to some mind fuck from red kryptonite, or Darkseid. It really pisses me off when retards get some stupid idea for a future comic plot and try and report the shit as if it's fact. Like it's going to some how make it come true if you shit post it on /co/.

>>91088617
And yet the guy who made the guide clearly does not draw him that way, as shown
>>91088571

>>91088683
No, its like Britain deciding to get nukes because the USA had them. Not because they intended on using them against the US, but because there were other threats around that the US might not be there to protect Britain from.

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>Superman is balding in the comics

Wew

Why don't they just make an Injustice movie?

>>91088704
The other options seem to be CGIwulf and the flying putties.
Seems they won't use Darkseid himself, probably will just have a reveal of him at the very end.
No one's interest is going to be held for 2 and a half hours by watching CGI cartoons of the league beating up on poorly-lit CGI mooks.

>>91088705
So you're saying it's weird a 20 year old Superman doesn't have receding hair like one approaching 40? Remind me again whether the Superman who was 33 in MoS is closer to 20 or 40.

>>91088748
They are getting pretty damn close, honestly.

>>91088758
Superman isn't drawn that way in his mid-30's either, the age at which he's generally portrayed, just like Batman.
But thanks for trying.

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Superman should resurrect in the first fucking act. Don't pussyfoot around with your Jesus symbolism, Snyder, just hurry the fuck up and bring him back so we can get on with it.

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>>91087404
have we already forgotten STAS?

>>91088536
It's amazing the kind of stupidity that roams around big hollywood productions isn't it?

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>>91088812
Weird. How'd this happen then?

>>91088823
>ywn hold down your qt blonde cousin and rape her

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>>91088812
As seen here.
>B-but Superman is often drawn balding.
>K-kino...REEEEEE.

>>91088823
Reminder that this was the SERIES FINALE, the END OF THE SHOW, the CULMINATION of the entirety of STAS. It was not the THIRD appearance of Superman.

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Old Man Supes.

>>91088881
also true, but the idea of Superman being brainwashed by Darkseid isn't some edgy Snyder invention people seem to be treating it as

>>91088881
>Ending Superman's series with him being Darkseid's bitch
Good job proving his point. At least there's going to be more movies with Supes in the future. That ending just shitted on him.

Snyder superman
>Apathetic to the suffering of the world
>Mass collateral damage
>Perfectly willing to kill
>Bald

>yfw Snyder based Superman on One Punch Man

>>91088604
Apparently glass can be shattered depending on the type of glass and the amount of heat in the laser. No idea if it applies to his lasers though.

>>91088503
>Superman represent authority
Except for all the times during his 75 year run, up from the beginning when he was busting evil politicians and bosses, up until Superbro, he said humanity should strive to become like him (in the altruistic, selfless and so on) so they could be free.

Meanwhile, most of his enemies are a bunch of moguls and cosmic dictators and shit.

Ancaps were a mistake.

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Henry has a year or two tops portraying Superman before it's CGI/Hairpiece time.
Neither of which will fly in 4k.

Fortunately there's an even chance the DCEU craters before 2019.

>>91087404
No source, fake as as fuck.

I'd like it if it would happen, though.

>>91088910
no, it ended with him breaking the brainwashing and kicking the shit out of Darkseid.

>>91087572
So shit, then. Way to further devalue Superman as a hero, Snyder.

>>91088897
No, it isn't, but the point is that they saved the worst thing that could happen to Superman for the finale. It was actually incredibly effective, too, because it was Darkseid being the biggest fucker he possibly could, ruining the one thing Superman cherished most: the trust and goodwill of the people of Earth. Does DCEU Supes even have any goodwill?

>>91088079
You're mixing up libertarian and conservative.

>>91088079
>>91089000
you're all mixing up everything for objectivism which granted does have large followings in the conservative and libertarian movements

>>91088945
>Neither of which will fly in 4k.
You seem to be unfamiliar with the really expensive hairpieces out there. They're seamless.

>>91089000
Libertarian means conservative in the US, just like liberal means progressive. They can't into politics.

>>91089000
Homey, they guy Ayn Rand, and is dying for an opportunity to film a version of The Fountainhead.

>>91088536
>The suicide squad are a team meant to do the work the government doesn't want to get its hands dirty with, not an evil Superman contingency plan.
She says that in the movie

I'm getting tired of SuperDick. If I wanted the flying brick to be an asshole, I'd read/play Injustice Superman. Christ, what is with Snyder and this angle?

>>91088503
You are wrong on both accounts. Superman does not represent authority and all authority is, in some manner, oppressive.

>>91089060
wow anon it's almost like the anon you're replying to was criticizing the movie

>>91088963
>no, it ended with him breaking the brainwashing and kicking the shit out of Darkseid.
Afterward spent mostof the Justice league wanting to KILL Darkseid.

>>91089060
Too bad it was undermined by Rick's escort. What's the point of your black ops team if your cover story is made pointless by a dozen soldiers surrounding them?

>>91088897
None of what happens in those movies is, but it doesn't have the same impact when it isn't built up on years of the Superman from that continuity being, you know, Superman.

>>91089031
But those are all different ideologies. There is more to the political spectrum than left side and right side.

>>91089068
snyder is an rand fanboy who can't understand altruism

>>91089135
what was the point of your black ops team if their first mission isn't a black op

>>91089145
All of these are positions, ideology is a lot deeper than that (in the formal sense, anyway).

But in the way americans use those words, libertarian means something like anarcho-capitalist or minarchist, while liberal means a right-leaning social democrat and conservative means a socially conservative classical liberal, and it's not difficult to see how all of those things fall inside a very clearly capitalist, right wing spectrum.

>>91089139
This. None of Snyder's ideas for Superman are new, strictly speaking, but the reason they don't work is he's doing them when we've barely gotten to know Superman. He has one movie, he was a supporting character in another movie, and he apparently won't even be in most of Justice League. The reason brainwashings and Superman turning evil are so effective is that they're built off the foundation of decades and decades of Superman as the quintessential good guy.

Fuck, foundation is the whole reason the Batman/Superman fight in DKR has the impact it does. It was Miller taking 50+ years of thematic tension between the two characters and bringing it to a head. Snyder does it in his second Superman story because he doesn't get it.

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>this thread

>>91089139
See that's a big problem with the DCEU in general, Snyder wants to take these characters into different directions, often in moments where moral code is questioned, yet he does so without first showing their long career beforehand. Take Batman for instance, we didn't need another origin, but a solo if him mid career losing Robin would have fixed a few problems in BvS

>>91089288
>that's a big problem with the DCEU in general, Snyder doesn't pander to me
Fixed.

>>91089309
And he's giving you what you want?

>>91087404
Sauce pls? Or is this just some Twitter bot doing his unpaid job?

>>91089288
I guess fuck you for wanting coherent characterization.

>>91089336
Yes. I want different versions of characters, not the same old shit. What about you? Do you want the usual cookie cutter MCU movie?

>>91089197
I think this goes to a major problem that plagues both the MCU and DCEU. The MCU's problem is build up with little to no payoff. DCEU tries to give us payoff, but with no real build up. Its probably why the boring is getting boring the latter is so frustrating.

>>91089376
>Do you want the usual cookie cutter MCU movie?
The MCU movies often aren't even in the same genre.
Before we talk any further, are you just going to be a meme-spouting retard the whole time?
If that is the quality of your posting, I'll find something better to do, you bitter little fellow.

>>91089309
>using established characterization for characters nearly a century old
>pandering
Only a top level moviefaggot could possibly think this way

>>91089397
*former

>>91089026
Or a hair implant op.

>>91089309
Oh fuck off. The man flipped through TDKR and grabbed panels without any context

>>91089408
>The MCU movies often aren't even in the same genre.
Still ashamed of liking cape movies, huh?

>>91089416
>Only a top level moviefaggot could possibly think this way
Says the anon crying about NOT MUH SUPES.

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>>91087404
>Thinks the leaks are real
>too much of a newfag to remember all the bullshit leaks of BvS up until the release.

Trying desperately to kill the hyped after the trailer been winning over the normies. You won't

>>91087404
wft spoiler you idiot

>>91089431
>implying you even read comics
Mouse pls

>>91089408
>you bitter little fellow
Who? I'm actually OK with an evil Superman. You obviously aren't.

>>91087404
>more divisive than BvS
I thought everyone agrees it is shit

>>91089447
>119 posts
I know, right? Evanposter deserves an extra cent for triggering so many Le True DC Fans.

>>91089463
Twitter bots, anon.

>>91089433
Leave the whole, "not muh Superman", what is this Superman's character? Why does he do what he does? Why is Lois the only thing keeping him from going evil?

>>91089397
>The MCU's problem is build up with little to no payoff.
>I need an extended CGI battle at the end
Avengers gave you this, and you bitched.
Iron Man 3 certainly gave you this, and you despised it. You were unhappy with the Ultron finale, apparently.
A personal, understated ending like Civil War or TWS (minus the unnecessary Helicarrier splosions) just isn't "enough".

Marvel can't please you.

>>91089447
I put a certain amount of stock in this because it just sounds so much like something Snyder would do, given his track record.

>>91087404
>Superman is reduced to the role of Hawkeye in Avengers 1.

Fixed your post, OP

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>>91089500
>muh Superman is DEEP like an Albert Camus character

>>91089532
He was an evil superhuman? And the Avengers never noticed? Man, that's Slott tier writing; I'm so glad I didn't pay for that movie.

>>91089447
One of those bullshit leaks was Doomsday and you guys insisted that was never gonna happen.

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>Man of Steel: Whoa, all these kryptonians wrecking shit left and right doesn't look good for me.

>BvS: Holy shit, me being in the middle of Congress when it blew up, those dead villagers and that kryptonian monstrosity REALLY aren't doing me any favors.

>JL: Eh whatever, I'll go full evil now.


Why does Snyder hate Superman so much?

>>91089521
lol, no. it's just the same shit avengers did with Hawkeye. Snyder hates coping shit from Marvel.

>>91089611
but it's also poorly copying something from a much more beloved DC thing, and Snyder loves doing that

>>91089599
>evanposting
Deleted in 3, 2, 1...

>>91089593
One of the leaks was Wonder Woman fucking Bruce and that didn't happen. Another was Metallo and armored Lex. Leaks and are Leaks nigga.
>>91089644
Too late Marvel did it first you can bet Snyder is going to go out of his way to spite them.

>>91088755
That"s like before Star Wars was released saying that Obi Wan is going to be revealed as evil because nobody will watch a film that is only storm troopers. One doesn't justify the other.

>>91088536
He didn't.

That's just what Waller says to get government funding/approval.

How are you this fucking stupid?

>>91087572

This is OP samefagging

>>91089687
DC doesn't copy, they improve.

>>91089714
If he wasn't stupid, would he be a Marvel intern?

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>>91089687
but DC literally did it before Marvel

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>>91089500
His Dad told him he was The Alien, and the greatest event in Earth's History.
Then he told him that saving a bus full of his classmates might be "wrong".
Then he told him that the Gubbmint would probably torture them all and dissect him if he DID reveal himself, and he should raise corn.
Then he threw himself into a tornado to drive home the point, that it's better to be shredded in a tornado than questioned by the Gubbmint.
So he wandered around as a hobo for 15 years, sporadically saving people from fires, terrorizing truck drivers with his powers, and generally doing crazy shit while busing tables.

Then he stole a ship from the government and his space dad told him to wear this undergarment and do great things.
But he didn't because Earth Dad fucked up his head.
Then a girl showed up hot on his trail of Super-carnage, got told his tornado story of how he can't do all those things she followed him doing, and she told him "hey it's ok, you can be the Superman".

And then he was the Superman.

>>91089734
I'm talking about in movies. Snyder hates comparisons to marvel movies.

>>91089771
what's greater, his hatred of Marvel comparisons, or his need to poorly copy better DC works?

>>91089840
His need to bludgeon us with Christ-imagery and allude to philosophical questions he has no intention of actually exploring.

>>91089768
Nothing makes me angrier about any of these movies than what Snyder did to Pa Kent. What a fucking waste of Kevin Costner's acting. I legitimately want to beat Snyder up over his version of Pa Kent.

>>91089875
He was trying to make some hamfisted statement about the Homeland Security State, while completely ignoring that Clark grew up under Reagan's "city on a hill".

>>91087404
I guess they need to make batman seem less crazy

>>91088471
If he never being called Superman during man of steel didn't tip you off, he finds the character silly.
>Everyone says that about "Batman Begins." "Batman's dark." I'm like, "Okay, no, Batman's cool." He gets to go to a Tibetan monastery and be trained by ninjas. Okay? I want to do that. But he doesn't, like, get raped in prison. That could happen in my movie. If you want to talk about dark, that's how that would go.
-Zack Snyder

I can't wait for this trainwreck, /co/ will be unusable for 3 months after.

It's gonna be hilarious, maybe this time the faggot mods will finally ban live-action.

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>>91090010
They just made Batman into Iron Man 3 Tony Stark.
Apparently no one watched Daredevil or the rest of Ben's filmography, and realized that he has the charisma of an old couch.

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>>91090083
>They just made Batman into Iron Man 3 Tony Stark.

>>91088945
>Henry has a year or two tops portraying Superman before it's CGI/Hairpiece time.
If Chris Evans can do it, Henry can too. He's at least handsome, unlike butterface Evans.

>>91090035
How many arthurian legends will daddy snyder put in there? I expect at least 10.

>>91090035
>/co/ will be unusable for 3 months after.
/tv/ will be shitstorm central.

So let me get this straight, superman is going to fight with batman about being leader of the justice league after he's been the villain for 2/3 of the movie?

Normally I'd count this as bullshit but this sounds exactly like something Snyder would do

>>91088471
I say fuck it and get Prime in here.

>>91087572
>Superman is brought back by the new gods
Why would the new gods make him evil? Are you sure you weren't eating paint chips while watching it?

>>91090083
I dunno, there have been some old couches I've enjoyed watching more than Ben Affleck

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>>91090219
He's habitually about the 7th most interesting chafacter in ensemble flicks.
And now he's DC's Iron Man.
The character everyone is expected to play off of.

Nothing could possibly go wrong.

>>91090172
He just wants Superman to be an asshole.

From destroying that guy's truck, to pushing Zod through buildings and gas stations, to not bothering to help anyone when he first thought Zod was in the Phantom Zone, to taking too lon to just snap Zod's neck, to destroying a government satellite unprovoked.

And now he's trying to lead a team he never fucking formed and knows none of the members of.

>>91090269
I guarantee that he'll be overshadowed by both Momoa and Ezra Miller.

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>>91087462
They need a guy who can climb things real good! They don't have one? We're fucked!!!!!

>>91087404
You know what
If Zack actually show us Omega Superman on screen, I will actually respect him a little

I dunno why people say movie Superman isn't heroic.
>Rescues people without any reward or accolades as a kid and adult
>Turns himself in to spare the earth
>Uses his job as a reporter to spread the word about injustice or oppression
>Annoyed that Batman steps on civil liberties
>Constantly worries that he's doing more harm than good
>Blames himself for not stopping the Capitol bombing when he couldn't even have seen the bomb
>Willing to sacrifice himself for the earth

Seriously, how is he not a hero? Because his and Zod's brawl caused a lot of damage? Two unbreakable guys fighting in a breakable world will do that.

>>91088536
They have a superman contingency plan
Too bad the plan in Enchantress, and look how well that turned out

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>>91090325
This is just exactly what the DCU needs: another reason to fear Superman.

>>91087404
Duh of course

FEAR HIM
SHE IS THE KEY
FIND US BRUCE

Evil Superman was unavoidable.
What Flash told Bruce was to assemble the league and use Lois to turn him back into a good guy. He never wanted to stop Superman being evil, he just gave Batman the key of how to deprogram him.

Superman is not only the death of the firstborn, the death and resurection of Christ but he is also the return of the prodigal son

KINO

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>>91090325
This badboy?

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>>91090318
Remember his character in Smoking Aces?
Armageddon?
Pearl Harbor?
or even Argo?
His completely dull turn as Jack Ryan?

He will probably be overshadowed by tired old Simmons.

RDjr was always charismatic, and Marvel was lucky enough to get him AFTER he rebounded from rock-bottom.

>>91090318
he was already overshadowed by them in the first fucking trailer

>>91090394
>>91090444
Hey, we are already in a hole, so we may as well dig deeper and see if we can't come out the other side

That or burn us all to death

>>91090422
>all in one bible figure

#IBelieveInSnyder

>>91090446
The only one I remember him in of the ones you mentioned was Armageddon. He's actually good in that.

>RDjr was always charismatic
Fuck i was recently re-watching Natural Born Killers and i forgot RDJ was in that. He's a delight to watch all throughout.

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>>91090444
I mean, I guess we should have seen it coming.

>>91087987
Snyder is not the writer m8

While he has some amount of creative input he is not the writer, nor the planner, nor the big guy caling the shots.

He is just the guy making it look pretty. And he does a good job.

Finally, Superman was the hero in BvS while Batman was practically the villain. It was one of the few occasions were Batman is the actual villain. Most of the comic book elseworlds usually have Superman as bad guy.

Snyder for the first time in years gave us evil Batman.

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>>91090470
If we get this sequence I will fucking actually be quiet happy.

Minus the megadeath even though.

>>91087404
That's not true though. Superman isn't brought in until the third act.

>>91090545
>nor the planner
>nor the big guy caling the shots
what do you think the director's job is

>>91090545
>Chris Terrio (screenwriter), Zack Snyder (story by)
www.imdb.com/title/tt0974015/
About that.

>>91090545
He's credited with "story" actually, so it does seem he has significant impact on the plot, even if he isn't writing the script.

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>>91090547
>>91090562
>>91090577
>>91090592
Gonna be a shame we wont be able to get this though.

>>91090446
>Smoking Aces?
Yes because the Tremor Brothers scene was wonderful.

>Armageddon?
Yes. It made animal crackers awkward as hell.

>Pearl Harbor?
...

>or even Argo?
Yes.

>Jack Ryan?
Irony about the aforementioned Tremor Brothers and this isn't lost on me.

>>91090083

A snarky smile would have suffice instead of the iron man line.

>>91090562
super karate chop?

>>91090446
>tired old Simmons.
You wish you had his pep at your age.

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Jesus christ, we shitty people don't deserve Superman

>>91090687
I'll remind you of that when Stan takes him.

>>91090687
I know the trailer probably isn't an indication of his final performance but he just really sounded like he didn't care

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They should just go full Injustice to be completely honest with you. That would be fun.

>>91090747
There's a strong chance he was drunk the entire time.

>>91090773
well that's not very supportive of Ben's recovery

>>91090585
To make sure the project he is handled by the actual big shots goes smooth. To direct and instruct actors in a way he feels they would bring the script to reality.

While there are directors that direct, write, act, etc, its not usual in franchise movies. The "amy pascals" and "Avi Arads" are the ones who decide.

Its like a director orchestra and a composer. Zack Snyder is the director orchestra, not the composer.

>>91090773
he looks hung over here
>>91090083

>>91090801
He has story credits tho.
Directors don't generally get story credits.
Goyer is gone now, and Zack is crafting the story.

>>91088131
Literally all stories with "Message from the future" as a plot point hinge on the person delivering said message being a goddamn retard.

Makes me think of Raiden's "He must win" from MK9 instead of "Let Shao Kahn win at the third tournament"

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>>91090642
Or this. /pol/tards who love Snyder would freak.

>>91090847
I think "crafting" is a bit of a strong word when you're using crayons to do it.

>>91090847
Story credit is the smallest credit possible for a script though
It can be as little as Snyder going "I think it'd be cool to have these scenes because they'd look good"

>>91089185
Well the first mission was to extract their commander from a hostile super event.

The whole movie would've made more sense if there were a variety of scenes in the background of military forces and let's say Wonder woman fighting the big threats while they go in and do their black ops stuff. Make a better written/acted Joker the main threat as he targets the team to get Harley back.

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I can't wait to put Drax in here when GOTG makes a billion dollars

>>91090592
Whatever happened to this Superman, anyways?

>>91087824
Superman's been brainwashed by Darkseid before.

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>>91090884
Not as much as if we got this in JL2

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>>91090847
Well, that means we are getting a good plot then

>>91090884
What kind of fixation with /pol/ do you have? Its not healthy

>>91090934
>things I don't like vs. things I like.jpg

>>91090920
>Whatever happened to this Superman, anyways?
he was bizarro

>>91090896
>Story credit is the smallest credit possible for a script though
No, that would be Siegel and Bob Kane and the rest's writing credit for "characters".
>It can be as little as Snyder going "I think it'd be cool to have these scenes because they'd look good"
I admire your boundless optimism here. But no, that's generally not what garners you a writing accreditation.

>>91090991
Oh that's dumb.
Where was the "real" one?

>>91091009
ded

I can't wait for Superman to appear and for some character to say "The prodigal son returns."

>>91087404
That'a honestly the least of my worries for JL.

>>91087462
But do you have a man that can climb anything?

>>91091013
Oh comic books

>>91087572
That's worse. You should go look for a job with DC

>>91091049
Funny thing that random snap of a random moment in Snyder's life has better cinematography, lighting and atmosphere that the whole MCU

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>>91090918
The original GotG pulled more in the US than BvS, just Saiyan.
I think that's the most damning realization for BvS, that Groot and Squirrel pulled in more ticket sales among americans than Batman fighting Superman with Wonder Woman thrown in.
Dance-off beat the Greatest Gladiator Match of All-Time.

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>>91090893
KEK

>>91091134
Why did you delete?

>>91091116
>We're the guardians of the galaxy, bitch
beat
>MARTHAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

>>91091150
Wrong file.

>>91091162
Everybody always forgets that the dance-off is followed by the REAL climactic victory, which is actually pretty cool.

>>91091098
Thats worse to what? Thats was literally BvS plot for good or bad.

Why are people just getting this? Supbergman igs not hero! not muh ckarkg!

Fuck off, he is brainwashed, he is a victim here. And he was brainwashed or mind controlled a trillion times.

>why snyger always makes supergman ebil?
He didnt in mos, he didnt in bvs and he wont in jl either. Also as pointed before, Snyder gave us evil Batman for the first time in years.

>>91091140
Clark is a liberal and Barry is a conservative. Batman wouldn't vote.

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How lopsided do you think this year will be?
>that number of films released.

>>91091111
Since the faggot deleted it
>>91091134

>>91089087
you idiot, the anon you are replying to is saying that even in-universe, Waller herself said they are not a Superman contingency.

>>91091214
>Lionsgate: 46

lord...

>>91088131
>man that can see every attosecond
>can't write a 5 point green text to give to Bruce through a time hole
Barry is a mistake

>>91089768
>His Dad told him he was The Alien, and the greatest event in Earth's History.
and that was true
>Then he told him that saving a bus full of his classmates might be "wrong".
no, he told him revealing his secret to others is wrong
>Then he told him that the Gubbmint would probably torture them all and dissect him if he DID reveal himself, and he should raise corn.
No he told be to not be unreasonable
>Then he threw himself into a tornado to drive home the point, that it's better to be shredded in a tornado than questioned by the Gubbmint.
what?
>So he wandered around as a hobo for 15 years, sporadically saving people from fires,
>terrorizing truck drivers with his powers
just like everyone's beloved Reev's
>and generally doing crazy shit while busing tables.
what
>Then he stole a ship from the government and his space dad told him to wear this undergarment and do great things.
well, true
>But he didn't because Earth Dad fucked up his head.
Lie. He did.
>Then a girl showed up hot on his trail of Super-carnage, got told his tornado story of how he can't do all those things she followed him doing, and she told him "hey it's ok, you can be the Superman".
ok
>And then he was the Superman.
yes

So what's wrong?

>>91091214
>piracy is killing the industry u guise!
What a fucking scam.

>>91091221
Your comment is still pretentious clickbait trash

>>91087404

Fuck that hairline is awful. Can Warner just asspull a Crisis or Rebirth out of Snyder's Superman abortion?

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So, anyway, Superman or no Superman I'm prepared for Justice League to be completely awful. I'm prepared for it to be as bad as Battlefield Earth. If it's not I'll consider that a pleasant surprise.

>>91091140
Wonder Woman's not a citizen

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>>91087404
source

>>91089463
Only bunch of moushills unironically think this.

Is Steppenwolf much of a match for the JLA without a mind controlled Superman? The guy seems to die a whole lot in comics and does not look to be any more powerful than a guy that likes to use axes.

I do not think he would be a good third act epic fight without something extra

>>91091293
I liked MoS, loved BvS but Im not sure about JL. Seems like redditor shit for the MCU audience.

I dropped the MCU long ago. I just pirate their movies and didnt regret it once.

I dont have much faith for the Quipstice League. Regardless of the outcome Im dropping the DCEU after Snyder finishes JL2

>>91091346
Depends on the writer.

>>91091323
>everyone who doesn't like Snyder's movies is a shill!

>>91091323
How hard did you have to search for someone who liked that turd?

>>91090303
literally the ubermensch

>>91091346
>Is Steppenwolf much of a match for the JLA without a mind controlled Superman?
On his own? No. But the guy usually has legions of parademons and war hounds at his disposal so that makes it a bit harder.

>>91091346
Well he's a New God isn't he?

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>>91091364
I would like to reassure you; there will be nothing approximating real fun in the Justice League, so you will be fine.

>>91091140
>trying this hard to bring politics into this

>>91091346
We should have gotten fucking Brainiac or Despero as our first League villain. Steppenwolf is retarded, because it's most of Darkseid's shit without actually having Darkseid himself.

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>>91091384
>>91091385
really makes me think

>>91091140

Bruce wouldnt vote, he is a democrat but would hate killary. Lois is a Hardcore Rep, barry is conservative probably voted for cruz and got mad, Wondy can't vote.

>>91091385
James Cameron:

> "I certainly have studied the masters: David Lean, Hitchcock, Kubrick, you know, everybody. Directors that continue to inspire me? Ridley Scott. I'll go to see any Ridley Scott movie, even the ones that bomb, to me are great because of the fabric of the film making... I'm also inspired by — these are established filmmakers now but I remember being very inspired by them when they first broke on the scene, like Zack Snyder, guys that were just creating their own new cinematic language."

>>91088536
By ditching any similarity to the comics beyond sharing some of the roster in favor of trying to go for what would attract the most normalfags.

>>91091437
Mongul and Warworld would have been fine too
The plot remains 99% of the same too

>>91087404
snyder just fucking hates superman at this point

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>>91091323
it's true

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>>91091437
No, we should have had Eisenberg Godfrey in BvS, with Desaad creating Doomsday, leading into Steppenwolf, Granny and the Furies, and Darkseid in Justice League.

Lex Luthor was a terrible mistake.

>>91091419
You sure? The trailer looked pretty much "fun" to me. Fun in "quotes" because I actually felt fun watching MoS and BvS. But this is the type of forced EBIN FUN FTW that I dont enjoy.

If I wanted to watch GoTG I would watch GoTG.

>>91091455
That's not praising BvS though
If anything, he's praising 300, which is actually good

>>91091437
This is exactly what I was thinking. Lex sending out messages into space should have attracted any one of the deep space villains that show up and shoot things like Brainiac or Mongul.

I was really expecting Braniac to be the big bad world conquering villain in the sequel.

Any form of Despero would be fun too

>>91088604
Thermal shock.

It's how sometimes a tea glass can shatter if you pour hot water in it.

Or your windshield if you try and defrost it with hot water.

>>91091455
James Cameron on Terminator: Genisys

>I start to see things I recognize. It’s being very respectful of first two films. Then all of the sudden, it just swerves. And now I’m going on a journey. I feel like the franchise has been reinvigorated, like this is a renaissance.

>If you look at why the films became classics, they had characters that you liked. The new film, which, in my mind, I think of as the third film, we see Arnold take the character even farther.

>The idea of taking John Connor and flipping him to the bad guy. It’s pretty cool, because you got a rift against expectation. It’s all about the twist.

>>91091419
go back to tumblr bitch

>>91091470
K.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Axuf9Pb-36I

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>>91091485
>This is how comic fans thing

>Hurr by the 9th movie we will finally see Darkseid but only after we have a trilogy dedicated to every one of Darkseid's minions and then we have a few side films that include intergang!

>>91091476
Scraping the bottom of the barrel here.

>>91091561
PEOPLE LIE, ESPEICALLY WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF PR.

>>91088742
>he said as he posted Supes with same widow pic as Cavill

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>>91091561
Let me put it this way then: Zack Snyder loves Superman as much as Chris Chan loves Sonic.

>>91091561
He truly is a visionary auteur of our times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVIB9sGYeUw

>>91087404

I demand proof of this faggotry

>>91091561
>totally not lying
or he has a corruption fetish

>>91091565
He literally said to have the whole Apokalypse gang in the first Justice League movie. As opposed to getting Steppenwho? as the villain.
I wouldn't advise using your real pic on 4chan, btw.

>>91088853

Cavillman has a widows peak and is balding. Stop defending your boyfriend. Snyder could have just fixed it with a hair piece and everything would have been fine.

Daily reminder there is a 4 hours long MoS movie and a 3 and a half hours long BvS version somewhere in WB studios.

Both finished, edited, full fx done. And only a handful of people have watched them.


You will never be rich enough to buy those movies.

>>91091621
He got Metzen'd

>>91090319
But he could climb ANYTHING

>>91090083
And IM3 Tony Stark was only decent Stark MCU ever had.

>>91091565
reading comprehension much?

>>91091638
That's funny, the theatrical releases already felt longer than that.

>>91091645
he can't keep getting away with it
how long till everything is green and spiky and filled with orcs?

>>91091661
This is a level of contrarian mental acrobatics I've never before witnessed.

>>91091647
What about a building WITHOUT windows?

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>>91090807
and it's all momoa's fault

>>91091214
Disney's gonna win so hard it's not even funny

I mean shit they ALREADY have a billion dollar movie with at least 4 more on the way

>>91091661
wew

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>>91091661

>>91091680
>>91091702
Cool arguments, snyderbros.

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>>91089197
>Miller taking 50+ years of thematic tension between the two characters

Um, what? I thought it was Miller who kicked that shit off. There was no tension before DKR that I remember. I mean shit, we still had the Superfriends in the 70's and early 80's. And before that Adam West Batman. I understand that TV Batman != to Comic Batman, but still. I get the impression the character really didn't come into the current iteration until the mid-eighties.

Thematic tension. Bah.

>>91091687
>Disney's gonna win so hard it's not even funny
They're gonna win so much they'll get tired of winning, believe me.

>>91091638
You know, I'm all in favor of the director as artist having free reign, but in exchange directors should have a certain amount of practical consideration. You shouldn't fucking shoot movies so long that you know for a fact they'll have to be butchered in editing to make a theatrical cut. Or, rather, you shouldn't film your extra footage in such a way that the movie fails to make sense without it.

It's like Snyder exists in a world where he and his ideas are the only things that really matter, when in fact that's not the case.

>>91087404
>Superman is the main villain

THIS IS MoS ALL OVER AGAIN

>>91091638
you've got it messed up
it's 3hr MoS and 4hrBvS
probably 10-20 years later like BladerRunner or Donner's cut

>>91091768
Yeah, those turds are absolutely on Blade Runner's level.

>>91087404
Why does DC use Superman as nothing but being fucking evil now? What happened to the hero I knew as a kid? Have they forgotten?

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>>91091743
You shouldn't film a movie where the Kryptonians give everyone at least a day of warning (likely more) that shit is about to go down...
And then have Batman lolling around downtown as Bruce Wayne in the second film, after you've established that even the AF had time to fly to Kansas, pick up a ship out of a barn, and fly back to Metropolis.

But here we are.

>>91091763
>The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us, necksnapper!"... and I'll look down, and whisper "Martha."
-Directed by Zack "Kino Harder" Snyder.

>>91091797
because you don't read comics

>>91091551
>It’s pretty cool, because you got a rift against expectation. It’s all about the twist.
>Show the big twist, apperantly the most important part of the movie, in the fucking trailer

>>91091797
Thy want to make him appealing to more than the 4 80 year olds that are still his fans. He doesn't appeal to anyone anymore and his personality is severely outdated.

>>91091797
Someone somewhere read Miracleman and thought it was a swell idea.

>>91090200

Agreed. Have him punch a hole through the Snyder verse.

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>>91091680
>>91091702
>>91091726
I like both MCU and DCEU (and Sony, Fox, etc. because I am not underage)
But you must be retarded to call IM3 Tony most unlikable. Not to mention he was most comic-book accurate one, instead of abnoxious manlet like in rest movies.

>>91091681
A N Y T H I N G

>>91091797
That's why they had to bring back preNew 52 Superman back. Some of us needed some hope in our Superman stories.

>>91091832
People love Captain America, though.

>>91091828
at least they saved the spoiler that Matt Smith was Skynet in Terminator form for a poster

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>>91091832

>>91091843
>Not to mention he was most comic-book accurate one
I don't remember tony stark ever turning into an MI-6 agent thats walking around with a pistol headshotting everyone.

>>91091845
Well shit man, that's hella impressive.

>>91091632
Not defending him at all, nor disregarding what you're saying. Follow the conversation back.
An anon said they shouldn't have him balding. Another anon agreed and said he has been depicted as having a receding hairline, but not JUST tier.
I jumped in supporting the notion of a receding hairline but that JUST tier balding is too far.
I preceded to be accused of cherrypicking despite having posted a style guide, and was responded with another depiction of a significantly younger version of the character and told the character isn't drawn similarly to the version I posted.
I simply posted with another depiction by the same artist to show that he was in fact depicted in that manner.
How you take away from that, that I am defending Cavill or consider him my boyfriend completely escapes me.

>>91089197
Except Miller made a new universe for it, starting already with government Superman and old Batman. So I dont see how you cant start from the end is an argument.

Sure, you have a point in that its more meaningful if you knew the character from before, but people know the character from before already. They dont need a whole movie to show how good is Superman. Superman is good. Thanks to the Donner movies, TAS, the comic books. Snyder just like Miller didnt introduced a new character called Superman from thin air. Both are playing with the expectations of people who already know Superman from classic sources.

Now execution, thats a different thing.

B

>>91091855
Because unlike superman, cap has an actual personality.

>>91091843
>I like both MCU and DCEU
get the fuck out

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>>91091323
>I found someone retarded enough to like BvS, and it only took me 3 weeks of google searching!

>>91088471
The same reason why /co/ jacks off to injustice and red sun

>>91091616
Original JL Trailer thread had the spoilers earlier before it was stickied.

>>91091451
I always felt that Bats never votes on any election outside of Gotham but instead makes a plan to put any president in jail for treason.

>>91091843
>comic book accurate
>a pro or a quality of anything ever

At most its a geek trivia

>>91091869
That's why I mean "most".

>>91091687
Somebody replace drunk Mamoa w/ Laughing Evans.

>>91091855
Cap is fucking dumbass in the films though.

>Age of Ultron
>rather than compromise his moral stance for the sake of 7 billion lives, decides the truly heroic thing to do is to do nothing and let Ultron crash the city into the Earth
>Insinuates the other Avengers are insane for even considering blowing up the city to save the world.
If Fury and SHIELD hadn't shown up, Earth would have been fucked.

>Civil War
>Ignores the arguments presented for the Avengers because he trusts his intuition and his perspective more than he does any other.
>Places the life of Bucky in front of everyone and everything else, and is willing to fight the people closest to him, for a man who is an assassin for the people Cap himself considers the worst people alive.

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Another one.

>>91091976
>for makeup
Mom's gonna freak!

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>>91091687
Goddamn, why does Affleck always have the face of someone who owes a studio 50 million dollars?

>>91091964
Yeah, well, maybe Snyder should make Superman a dumbass like Cap, then, so he'd gain millions of fans too.

>>91088311
How exactly were most of the SS supposed to deal with an evil superman-tier threat anyhow

>>91091989
Maybe he should make him into a hero, just for a change.

Who cares about Superman?
It's all about Aqua-Momoa now
He's going to steal the show

>>91092012
By having an Evil Superwoman on the team that they had little control over?
That seems to be the answer.

>>91092020
Yeah, as much as hemsworth steals the show in the marvel movies.

>>91092020
guarantee his best lines and moments were in the trailer

>>91092020
He's up against Cavill, Affleck, Gadot and some black guy in embaressing CGI.
Really it was up for grabs to either him or Ezra.

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>>91091976
It's literally all you have to brag about

no critical acclaim, no box office records anymore, just one sad pathetic oscar for a worthless category and odds are next year marvel's gonna have one too so you won't even have that

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>Obvious shit rumor
>/co/ take the bait
>over 300 plies

>>91092040
I hope bad to the bone is playing when he slams his half full jack daniels bottle on the ground. And he rides away on a motorcycle with a slot motion explosion behind him.

>>91092032
Hemsworth is competing against RDJ-man and Captain Beefcake

Momoa has a clear field to be one everyone likes

I hope that ,just as BvS 2nd trailer was, the JL trailer 2 is the full collection of quips, jokes and shit we will watch in the whole movie. ANd the rest of it is actually serious.

KINO NOT QUIPS, KINO.

>>91092012
Captain Boomerang was on the team because he had experience getting his ass destroyed by the Flash
Deadshot could theoretically use a Kryptonite bullet
El Pollo Loco had OP fire powers
Katana could steal souls
No idea what 'girl with bat', 'guy with skin condition', or 'CLIMB ANYTHING' was doing with them though
That one Justice League Unlimited episode is a way better SS movie than the SS movie

>>91092053
any excuse to shit on DC is a GREAT excuse

>>91092053
We hate Snyder's films just that much, I guess.

>>91091364

>Quipstice League

You sound like a literal faggot

>>91092048
Marvel doesn't do whiteface.
And Best Visual is a tough as fuck category.

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>>91092032
he has his moments.