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Star vs. Posession

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Possessed Star when?
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possessed by Toffee, possessed by the green aspect of her magic or possessed by Eclipsia seeking a vessel for her return?
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>>91075003
Never.
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>>91075038
Any of those, but Toffee preferably.
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>>91075003
I'm hoping that with Ludo they've already exhausted their "possession" gimmick for this series.

Possession is always less satisfying than the character actually going evil or whatever on their own.
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>Star wants Marco to be a friend not a hero
>he becomes the greatest friend she has
>suddenly wants more now that he has a gf

>Spock.jpg
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>When possessing Star, Toffee suddenly switches from using his own voice to using Star's, just to fuck with everybody.
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CUTE AND PERFECT
ADORABLE AND LACKING IN FLAWS
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http://www.ranker.com/list/best-star-vs-the-forces-of-evil-characters-v1/ryan-harrigan?publish=true

>TFW Jackie fell by 8 spots in less than 15 minutes
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>>91075197
>There are now 3 dads in the top ten

Good
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>>91075197
That's what she gets for having an ugly mole face.

Man-stealing bitch.
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Marco, why did you take some of MY Captain Blanche's Sugar Seeds™?
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>>91075197
>Two Oskars and Two Gustavs
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requesting tears in Star's face
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>Star was planning to mate with Oskar back in Mewberty, and the only reason she wasn't able to was because Marco bought enough time by stalling Star

Holy shit
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>>91075003
We need a girl equivalent to Bipper
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>>91075140
She still doesn't want a hero, she wants a fuck toy
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YFW, you will never get to eat a kawaii Devil Buster bento.
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Toffee is indeed the perfect villain for Star because, in total contrast to her, he has literally done nothing wrong.
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>>91075376
He kind of looks like an adult my little pony character.
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Im a hardcore believer in the "marco becomes Possessed" theory
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>>91075003
Ludo vs the forces of evil au has what you want
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>>91075481
It's not really a developed AU yet, just a few pieces of fanart so far.
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>>91075506
It could be an amazing au. I do have an establishing idea but it may have to many grammar errors
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I want to take Star to church
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>>91075589
But she is Mewish
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>>91075434
Wouldn't it be a prediction and not a theory considering you don't think it has happened yet?
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>>91075086
Your view is so shallow. A character can't be made to do something unless they had the capacity to do it all along.
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Alright fellow anons, I am going to bed after a nice shower. Please post your Cute Stars and send me your Good Star Vibes so I can have dreams of her tonight.

Remember to practice good hygiene and take a shower AT LEAST every other day.
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>>91075717
Have some good nacho vibes, amigo.
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>>91075667
Shouldn't be too hard to change that
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>>91075717
lewd count?
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>>91075749
Lewd is fine, so long as it's cute lewd. Just need them Good Star Vibes.
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>>91075197
>hekapoo in top 3
does smug ever lose
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>>91075716
I mean if Toffee or whoever is literally just animating Star in this hypothetical episode plot it's not particularly interesting to me.

Especially when the show's gone out of its way to show Star has the capacity to pull off "evil" magic entirely on her own.
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Face the Music > Starcrushed

probably. The latter has some stronger individual scenes but Face the Music is more consistent as a whole
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>>91075574
Grammatical*
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>>91075742
They are going to get cheese over their fancy clothes.
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>>91075813
yeah, these threads have way too much love for her

I know people love to waifu fag all over useless side characters, but I think everyone might be going a little overboard on Hekapoo
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>>91075869
Agreed. Volpe and the team did a great job in this episode especially with the reactions which helped sell the moods. Only thing I didn't like was the ending.
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>>91075880
Yeah, thats why i hold off trying my hand at green my grammar errors are bad I want to but i shouldn't
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>>91075944
Star riding off on the cloud?

It did feel kind of abrupt. Maybe because they showed that scene in the promos.
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Here's something I've been wondering about the boy star AU. Would Mewni still be matriarchal, or would it be changed to patriarchal? If so, would Moon and River also get a gender swap, or would it be more of a role swap?
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>>91075944
Why's that?
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>>91075995
If you mean specifically the male Star shown in an episode, I'm thinking it would be a gender swap and Mewni would thus be patriarchal. Moon would be king, River would be a womanlet barbarian, Marco would be a girl, etc.

I say this because male Star still has cheek emblems. Implies everyone else's genders are swapped too and that in this universe Mewni rule and possession of the wand is patrilineal.
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>>91075995
>would Moon and River also get a gender swap
I wish there were any R63 art of them.

>that episode where Star's tiny amazon mom shows up wearing only a loincloth and offers piggyback rides to him to make him forget about his camping trip with what she thinks is his gf
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>humonsters claim to be superior
>literally submewman because they can't cast magic AT ALL
>fight and kill each other the most instead of uniting and focusing on monsters
>STILL haven't joined the dimensional community
>can't into deep space (our fucking princess took a tour through space, humonsters are a fucking joke)
>lower than everyone on the mewman development index
How's "m-muh technology" working out for you?
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>>91076179
Go back to your cornfields mewtard, Mewni is a shithole magic wont change that
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>>91076179
>mfw mewmans tell me theyre superior
>mfw the daughter of their beloved ruler was humilated and cucked in front of thousands of people
>mfw she even comes crawling back to him like the slut she is
hows "m-muh magic" working out for you cucks
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>>91076179
>literally the india of dimensions
superpower by 2020 right?
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>Hey Anon! Do you wanna go see a movie together?
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>>91076314
Sure star, let me just call jackie
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>>91075197
Marco in 1st place

Damn, a secondary male character actually more popular than the main female character. That's fucking rare.
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>>91075980
>>91076084
Because it felt like they didn't know how to end the episode. The transition between Face the Music and Starcrushed was weird in this sense. Granted with a deadline looming and knowing they'd have to interact in the last episode I probably would've done the same thing, but it felt off.
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>>91076314
trebuchets > girls
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>>91076344
Star already called Jackie, Marco.

She even slipped a condom in your pocket like a good friend would.
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>>91076314
The first time Marco took Star to a movie she probably talked and screeched over it the entire time and threw stuff at the screen.
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>>91076314
Where is this pic of Star from? I'm usually good at this.
>>91076348
Wasn't Sasuke more popular than Naruto, that was annoying.
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>>91076373
welp Im convinced
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>>91075928
It didn't help that in running with scissors that marco was chasing her for 16 years and then that look they gave each other when he was blowing out the flame
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>>91076314
>Hey Anon! Do you wanna be my date for the prom?
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>>91076373
>using non gunpowder besieging artillery
Its like you dont want to retake constantinople or something
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>>91075934
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>>91076431
>No thanks, I'm asking Marco.
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STARCO IS CUTE AND PERFECT!

CUTE AND PERFECT!
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>>91076230
Better than having an entire continent of cucks, EUROPE YES.

>>91076295
>y-yeah well you're kinda like the place HUMONSTERS have that is awful
lmao sorry you guys still have to deal with a place like that instead of having clean Mewni cornfields :^)
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>>91076314
>>91076431
>>91076477
FUCK FUCK FUCK IM STUCK IN THE WAND
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>>91076344
But you don't like hanging out with the two of them at the same time
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>>91076477
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>>91075749
>>91076103
Speaking of which, is the new among amigos out yet?
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>>91075293
> no background
yep, that's Bleach
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>>91076525
TODAY
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>>91075140
Women just enjoy destroying other's relationships
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>>91076477
>Silly Anon, Marco's going with Jackie. Would you do it if I showed you these bad boys?
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>>91076525
I MUST
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Who should voice her?
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Do you think any of the staff is red pilled? By watching this show it seems like Daron is red pilled, but she's very nice about it. Are you red pilled but also nice in real life?
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>>91076511
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>>91076525
REMIND THEM
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>>91076642
>red pilled
you must be 18+ to post on 4chan
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>>91076617
>not posting uncensored
Such a pleb.

Watch a real man do it.
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>>91075308
Probably how River and Moon met. She did it right on the Battlefield.
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>>91076666
I'm using terms you hip kids tend to use. I'm 32.
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You are now under Jackie's control, she requires your full submission
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>>91076693
>you hip kids tend to use. I'm 32
I'm old enough to be your father
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>>91076617
I would love to go with you star but Angie marco's mom asked me to watch spanking the monkey with her
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>>91075667
Imagine Mewni circumcisions
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>>91076718
DONT LOOK AT HER MARCO!
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>>91076667
LEWD
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>>91076656
Star looks like Marco's mentally challenged sister in that pic
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>>91076746
I'm not Marco
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>>91076746
too late
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>>91076746
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>>91076743
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>>91076718
so is Jackie just gonna disappear from the show when Marco runs away to Mewni to find Star?
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>Season 3 episode 1
>storyboarders: Dominic Bisignano, Genndy Tartakovsky
what did they mean by this?
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>>91076718
For you, my mistriss.
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>>91075434
Monster Arm lies waiting, watching.
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>>91076830
Toffee may have use for her when Marco breaks up with her in early season 3.
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>>91076746
>It's too late star
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>>91076830
no s3 will be about how marco's life is so much better without star and now that he has jackie
s4 will be the butterfly family moving to earth because they lost the war against toffee
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>>91075717
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>>91076830

She better not.

I will honestly be disproportionately upset if she does; it would seem like such an injustice if they don't even try to resolve it.
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>>91076830
Nah. She's gonna be a pretty cool character. I hope you guys like her. Once the whole "Jackie girlfriend" arc ends, you'll really see her come into her character more.
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>>91075934
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>>91076929
Just like she was going to be much more prominent in season 2b?
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>>91076830
nah she's gonna go with marco along with janna and starfan because star is their friend and along the way jackie will see signs that marco has feelings more than friendship for star which will culminate ineither 3rd or second to the last episode jackie breaking up with marco
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So are Jackie and Janna friends?

This like really confuses me, because they are shown together a lot when they are acting as background characters, but they never really seem to interact with each other or come off as friends

like the most interact I actually remember was Janna basically barely saying hello to Jackie during the Bonbon episode, choose to stare straight into a flashlight instead, but for some reason they keep doing this stuff that suggests a friendship between them like Janna and Jackie standing next to each other during Star's confession and Janna giving her that worried look
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>>91076945
Jackie was literally the best character of season 2. So yes.
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Star's PROBOSCIS!
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this is Marco

say something nice to him!
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>>91076373
t. Season 1 Star
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>>91076863
suffering X1000
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>>91076798
Needs an image of two people above everyone with the label of "Jews"
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>>91076966
>jackiefags are this desperate

Have some self respect sir. The best character of season 2 is Ludo. Please check your priv at the door.
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>>91076477
>gif
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>>91076966
Yeah, who can forget all of her memorable moments like the time she said "cat face", when she was chill or when she showed off her ear.
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>>91076958
They used to be. But then Janna thought she was in love with her because she isn't used to affection. This is why she doesn't have any friends.
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>>91076763
Star looks like an autist stimming
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>>91076863
>Season 3 episode 2
>storyboarders: Sam Raimi, Genndy Tartakovsky
>guest animator: Ben Garisson
episode 2 gets even weirder
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>>91076958
Seems like Janna doesn't want to have much to do with Jackie after she became Marco's girlfriend.
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>>91076990
Your hair looks nice.
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>>91077034
those are some confusing pronouns man, Janna thought who was in love with who?
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>>91076798
>>91077008
even better
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>>91076958
theyre friends but she doesnt wanna do anything with her since she's marco's gf and star is jannas friend
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>>91077080
They thought she was in love with them.
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>>91076373
One al provides better transport
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>>91077058
>looks like
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>>91077015
Is it just me, or has that strap slipped lower since I last saw this edit?
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>>91076596
>>91076631
>>91076659
This is the most powerful kingdom in Mewni? Even monsterfolk live better than this, and they probably dont have to pay taxes or give prima nocta rights to their stripper Queen.
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>>91076991
Which one will get Tom as a consolation prize?
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>>91077008
>>91077094
I got you both
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>>91076945

The difference between then and now is now she actually has some emotional stakes.
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>>91077003
>yfw Marco kills Ludo and Toffee right off the bat
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>>91076990
Your but smells nice
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>>91077137
Janna

she's trying to be a witch, wants to marry a man who can raise the dead and honestly its not really a consolation prize since she was never into Marco that way, she just liked messing with him
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>>91077165
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>>91077063
>Season 3 episode 4
>storyboarders: Guillermo Del Toro, Gendy Tartakovsky
>guest animator: Hiroyuki Imaishi
>created by Daron Nefcy and George Lucas and Hideo Kojima

Of course, there is no episode 3
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>>91077201
that's new
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>>91076863
Christ, I don't remember Marco being this good.
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>>91077201
LEWD
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>>91077212
Seems off when you switch the genders around
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Which Star vs do you think has said the n word the most
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>>91076642
No, but they typically don't force their tumblr agenda up our asses, except for things like "Janna likes pink and fighting the patriarchy!" or trans marco
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>>91077201
That's nice anon
That's real nice
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>>91077212
honestly I feel like the genderswap AU would lead to Marco getting raped like 2-3 times by now

Once by Janna and at least once by Star
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>>91077237
16 years in hekapoo's dimension anon and he didnt even FORGET HIS PURPOSE
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>>91076863
>Season 3 Episode 15-16
>Guest voice actors: Jeremy Harrington
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>>91077255
>they typically don't force their tumblr agenda up our asses
This I agree with.
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>>91076373
>>91076314
I kissed a girl for the first time yesterday.
AMA.
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>>91077172
>pairing up the two characters from tumblr's favorite gay ships
SVTFOE would go down as the most problematic show ever
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>>91077216
>Season 3 finally
>storyboarders: Guillermo Del Toro, Gendy Tartakovsky
>guest animator: shindol
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>>91076093
Does that mean that everybody else would get gender swapped?
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>>91077201
Stop bullying jackie, what she ever do to any of you? different from having disgusting mutilated ears
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>>91077252
Jackie

idk why but I feel like she is the most likely to be secretly racist

then again Brittney
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>>91077284
>star has to destroy him
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>>91076870
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>>91077216
>Season 3 episode 5
>storyboarders: Uwe Boll
>created by Tommy Wiseau
WTF is up with disney
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>>91076179
Cloud Kingdom > Butterfly Shitlands

>King Ponyhead is powerful well respected leader, easily beat mewnlet River many times in fights
>Doesnt have stripper queen like Moon
>have indoor plumbing
>superior architecture and technology to live in clouds
>not raided constantly like Buttercuck trash because in sky
>could destroy surface with cloud's rain and lightning but choose not to
>beautiful royal family with competent daughters unlike Star Cuckoldfly joke of a princess
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>>91076863
>Toffee, Ludo, and Buff Frog turn into mecha shiva
What the fuck was that about?
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>>91077287
this isn't r9HSGk fucko
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Which Star Vs character is more than likely to go online for motivation quotes?

Besides Star.
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>>91077275
>FORGET HIS PURPOSE
But his purpose was to fug the bug, he forgot about that
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>>91077290
what are you? Those SU fans that throw a fit at people pairing Pearl with a guy?

Makes no fucking sense to me that people who love to randomly make straight characters gay would get so offended by doing literally the exact same thing but in the opposite direction

Gay and straight is stupid anyway, bi is master race
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>>91077356
werewolf music guy
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>>91077294
Yes. Literally every character would be the opposite gender.

I guess there's nothing stopping just Star's family from being the only ones genderswapped here, but that's boring.
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>>91076642
Daron is purple pilled
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>>91077356
Marco
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>>91077292
>Season 4 episode 1
>storyboard and guest animation by John K Peta
>Season 4 episode 2
>guest animation by noise
>Season 4 episode 3
>guest animation by salad
>Season 4 episode 4
>guest animation by nezumin

Disney is really experimenting with star here
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>>91077356
Ludo would develop an addiction to it after realizing it's the next best thing to receiving actual praise, and easier to get too.
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>>91077349
>1 copper has been deposited into your coin purse
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>>91077392
> episode 5 storyboard by Bobobo
> title: "Leftovers"
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>>91076863
>Season 3 finale
>Guest directer: David Lynch
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>>91075140
Someone post that Blood Moon ball pic of Star wanting a friend and Marco thinking be careful what you wish for.
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>>91077392
>guest animation by John K Peta
I dont think im ready to see marco cum directly on stars mewvaries
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>>91077408
why not, she just regurgitates them
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>>91077376
Damn solid choice.
>>91077389
He could actually.
>>91077398
>after realizing it's the next best thing to receiving actual praise, and easier to get too.
lol
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>>91077423
>>91077398
it's too true, i retract werewolf music dude
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>>91077255
The Janna stuff is more making fun of it because she's a tryhard edgelord.
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>>91077392
>Season 5 is all produced by dick wolf
So star and marco will be in the criminal justice system where the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups: The police, who investigate crime, and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. This season are their stories.
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>>91077449
>because she's a tryhard edgelord
so, the OTHER half of the fanbase that isn't represented by StarFan13
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Why isn't this show more popular than it already is? Is this show too smart for people to follow?
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>>91077401
Jeremina was a surprise but it felt so right
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>>91077270
>>91077294

Consider the following:

>Maria's karate rival is a bratty rich girl
>Ludo would be an tiny evil monster girl
>Toffee would be a classy lizardwoman
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>>91077481
wow i didnt think my prediction would be right
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Ok, who else here legitimately hates Jackie? Like, every time she appears you're just like "ugh, let her fade away already".
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>Season 4
>guest director and voice actor: Jason Steele
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>>91077398
That's depressing
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>>91077161
>Dennis spends all season meditating in ancient monster temples and training for his revenge
>gets one shotted by Star
What was the point of this character
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>>91077507
What a mean thing to say, Star
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>>91077287
Was she as qt as star?
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>season 3
>directed by YOU
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>>91076411
>Sasuke more popular than naruto

To be fair, naruto was a fag
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>>91077507
Isn't it past your bedtime, princess star?
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>>91077529
dont worry buff frog is training 7 of his daughters to finish of marco
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>>91077507
I don't hate any of the characters, but I don't like seeing Oskar, Tom or Jackie on screen because even though they're plot devices to advance Starco I worry the creator might do a switch-a-roo to make us suffer.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkcKaNqfykg

Star version when
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>>91077507
Stay mad, Starcuck
t. best girl always and forever
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>>91077574

Wait, by switcheroo you mean prolonging their status as plot devices, or developing them so they aren't
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>>91077541
>Its 30 minutes of stars shoulders in different angles
>wins the oscar tony grammy and nobel and is introduced into the library of congress archives as the most significant episodes of all time
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>>91077371
>the gems arent lesbian guys theyre genderless space rocks that just happen to have non androgynous bodies
>but they shouldnt be paired with anyone but women or genderless rocks that look like women
Hmm, really makes you think
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>>91077507
Jackie is alright but the only character I hate in the show is Oskar
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>>91077507
I wonder who could be behind this post?
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>>91077098
>>91077066

Star and Jackie were supposed to be good friends too
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>>91077665
good friends dont stab a person in the back anon
star is no good friend
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>>91076990
You have saucy brown eyes
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>>91077507
nah

but I was really hoping they would put more effort into her in season 2, like Janna was given a lot of character in season 2 and I really like her now where before I thought she was a dumb character

Jackie has improved a bit, but I still feel like she is just some dumb cute girl that Marco has a superficial teenage crush on
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>>91077637

What about Helios
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>>91077484
Leftovers redone with those two would be amazing
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>>91077482
Premium cable channel from the very beginning, so you'd have to have that channel or be really interested in cartoons in general to have followed it since its premiere

Also it had a weak start that still influences how people view it (some who just started watching don't know it's as much of a plot/lore kind of show as any other because it STILL doesn't have that reputation)
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>>91077604
Developing them to the point where an Oskar/Star and Jackie/Marco ending makes sense from their narrative point of view.

I tried leaving this general many times but I can't. I keep coming back despite lack of new info.
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>>91077508
>Season 3
>Guest director: Alex Hirsch
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>>91077539
Cute in her own way, but not exactly like star ^-^

Star is also probably much more innocent than her haha.

Then again, Star HAS had past boyfriends (at least 1). ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>91075934
Wait, was he holding a burger under the counter?
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>>91075650
>you'll never receive a princess make over from a girl you like

I wish I was that lucky.
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>>91077482
>Why isn't this show more popular than it already is?

No, why hasn't Japan made a shit ton of princess cuck porn of this already
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>>91077491
Jerilyn would be irredeemably annoying
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>>91077725
D: no me gusta
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>>91077738
And probably voiced by Grey Griffin
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>>91077252
Janna
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>>91077066
And yet season 2 ended with Janna right next to Jackie, instead of continuing to hang out with all of Star's other friends.
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>>91077725
>Marco has to apologize to Star and Jackie for being the object of their crushes
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>>91077693

I mean, what kind of development were you looking for?

This was the season of characterization, and you need to have that before you can have it developed. Jackie's appearance did establish her as a plot device at the moment, but they went fairly deep into why she appreciates Marco and exactly what about him makes him attractive to her. She's shown that she wants to keep Marco engaged in the relationship because she's worried that thinking too much about Star is dragging him down.

Her role as of this point is supportive girlfriend, but the time to elaborate on her character/ambitions is now season 3, and her face at the end of Starcrushed is the catalyst.
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>>91077725
Well there's goes 2 seasons of build up fucking gone.
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>>91077252
Probably marcos retard friends
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>>91077400
Come to Cloud Kingdom
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>>91077541
>Star is possessed by Toffee who kills her mother through her
>Star loses the rest of her wand as Toffee/Ludo conquer Mewni, River perishes in the resistance
>Star is forced to lead a rebellion against the new monster regime out of the wilds of Mewni with ponyhead/buff-frog/kelly/etc
>Toffee resurrects Eclipsa, who kills off the magic council permanently
>As Star's resistance crumbles, she's defeated at the feet of toffee, who, after slaying all of star's friends, reveals his identity
>It was Glossaryck the whole time and the entire season was a dream-coma sequence for the purpose of teaching Star about magic or some shit through suffering

>Meanwhile, Marco, Jackie and Janna have slice of life adventures as Jackie and Marco progress further into their relationship and forget about Star almost entirely
>Glossaryck shows this to star at the climax of her defeat
>Her smile and optimism gone, Star is now the perfect no-nonsense queen-to-be of Mewni
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>>91077725
>season 3
>Guest director: Rebecca sugar & Joaquim Dos Santos
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>>91077725
>Star causes the apocalypse and gets away with it
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>>91077772
Someone had to be around to point out Jackie's livid face.
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>>91077574
At this point Tom has more on-screen interaction with Marco than he does with Star, and seemingly has gotten over trying to get back together with Star.
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>>91076314
>sure. I know a foreign film that you might like.
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>>91077810
fuck off back to your 25 generals
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>>91077491
What about all the henchmen? Theyre all men for obvious reasons, gender swapping them is just ridiculous, even if Ludo is a monster princess
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>>91077711

At least Jackie makes sense in some context because both partners are content to some degree.

Starcrushed revealed that Star has essential no residual interest in Oskar anymore, and their pairing would never work.

Idk, I just don't really see or like the Oskar-Jackie parallels being drawn.
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>>91077810
Don't you have at least two dozen containment threads to get back to, Samurai Fag?
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>>91077725
>Season 4
>Guest director: Lauren Faust
would /co/ survive the shitstorm?
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>>91077839
What obvious reasons?
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>>91077725
>Season 3
>Guest Director: Rebecca Sugar
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>>91077820

Which means a similar fate may happen to Jackie?
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>>91077842
No, you are right. My concerns are unfounded but they're still there based on my experiences before (with many things) where I expect a certain result and the opposite happens. This was very common last year (Ash lost the league despite the foreshadowing, Warriors lost despite a 3-1 lead, etc).
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>>91077637
I think Oskar being such a dumbass along with his rough home life in the book redeemed him. His further development only served to kill Oskstar.
I loved how she could barely get through a conversation with him unless she agreed with everything he said.
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>>91077507
She is just boring imo.
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>>91077839
>>91077852
Big Chicken was actually female according to Nefcy but it's also the only one who doesn't speak intelligibly.

I guess Man-Star beating them up would look bad or something. Like I guess villains uniformly sucking and getting easily beaten doesn't really have "problematic" implications when they're all male vs. all female.

Not saying that's necessarily true but it is how it is.
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>Star vs the forces of evil: You are (not) Hekapoo
>Directed by Hideako Anno
>Star vs the forces of evil: End
>Directed by Gen Urobuchi
>Star and the forces of evil manga
>by Kentaro Miura
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>>91077541
>Star almost dies/actually dies temporarily in an attempt to sacrifice herself, meeting and briefly talking with some of the past queens of Mewni in whatever afterlife mewmans go to. And also maybe her parents depending on what happens.
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>>91077243
it's better like that, and Comet uses his magic to confuse the jury when sexual assault charges are pressed. .
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>>91077923
>>Star and the forces of evil manga
>>by Kentaro Miura
as long as its about star's adventures on the different dimensions while he finds a cure for marco who raped into retardation by jackie who did nothing wrong
>>
So what's the difference between Star Vs and Star Vs Kai?
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>>91077964
Ferguson and Alfonzo aren't even in Kai.
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>>91077964
Same thing as Marco Shippuden
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>>91077926
If you're wondering why I'd do this, it's because I like both characters getting near-death experiences of the afterlife, and characters getting pep-talks to keep going by dead loved ones
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>>91077903

He isn't the brightest tool in the shed, but he's got a good heart.

But he....doesn't like having his explanations corrected? The whole "my keytar is going to Mars" and the explanation on how Star's magic worked really, REALLY showed that they're really not compatible (and Star was definitely trying to force it with the hand-on-fist, and at the end Oscar still was interested).

Hold up-was Oscar there at the end when Star confessed her crush? If so....do you think he'd still try and make a move on Star? I doubt it, and it'd be refreshing/nice to see him try and get Marco to go after Star (or something along those lines).
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>>91077725
>Status Quo reset to just Star and Marco being just friends, Marco has no gf
>Bloodmoon Ball never comes up, plotline completely dropped
>Heinous forgotten too
>Eclipsa is freed in the last half of the season but only appears in a third of the episodes. She does nothing but act as a plot device for filler. Otherwise she's kept a secret from everyone but Star and Marco.
>season 3 ends with star going home for good and wiping everyones memory
>no season 4
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>tfw no cowtits Mewman gf
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>Season 3
>Guest Director: Jim Gordon
>"Star, you must rape Toffee"
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>>91077541
>Over 400 minutes of full penetration
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>>91078024
Is this a BG character? Damn she's hot
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>>91078047
yes from the fortune cookie episode
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>Season 3
>Guest Director: Superman
>Moon's name is now Martha for no reason
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>>91077824
ITS BEEN 50 THREADS BUT I DO NOT SAGE
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>>91075995
I assumed the first born child is always the next ruler, regardless of gender
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>>91078003
He always struck me as one of those kids from my high school that hasn't quite "made it" since because he doesn't like being invalidated. Maybe it's the abusive mom's boyfriends rubbing off on him. Or maybe he's just a millenial.
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>>91078024
Those aren't tits, those are sacs filled with several dozen of her young. Once they grow old enough they'll take to the wind and scatter.
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>>91078055
>Marco snaps Star's neck to protect Earth
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>>91078055
>Season 3 by dan snyder
>its all black and white and toffees mom is named angie
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>>91077541
>Marco gets super powers
>Still gets beat up by Jeremy
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>>91078066
no its very clear that Star's Kingdom is matriarchal

I mean we have seen the hall of tapestries or whatever and its clear that all past rulers have been queens not only that but River took Moon's last name not the other way around, which suggests female succession
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>>91078089
>Star doesnt save her father from a tornado
>even though she has magic powers to do it
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>>91078090
That's Zack Snyder

Dan Snyder would have a bunch of underage lewd girls... maybe he is already working on the show
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>>91078073

What does the book say about his family life? I'm guessing that his mom is single (do they imply abusive boyfriend or is that conjecture?).

Yea, I think you hit the nail on the head-he doesn't like being invalidated (which is why he also likes Glossaryck, who agrees/goes along with his stuff).
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>>91078021
>Toffee takes over.
>It lasts three episodes and a third of it is just a mostly-unrelated adventure in a dream-world Star's in
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>>91077094
The what twins?
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>>91078114
That would have to be Marco's dad, wouldn't it?
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>>91078119
i mean its a combination of dan and zack since it is a show full of little girls with superpowers
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>>91077852
I dunno the reason goons are typically men in general. Its fantasy but if they were all women it needs an explanation or it comes off as fetish shit or weird. They dont have to all be men but it'd be prob le matic if every episode was a white blue eyed blonde boy beating up a majority of women.
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>>91078152
no marco's parents were shot in an alleyway because anything else would be plagiarizing dc
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>>91077809
>now all characters are gay, transsexual, genderfluid, PoC otherkin
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>>91078124
Can't wait to see the episode where star disagrees with Oskar and he busts her face open and Marco goes and kicks his ass.
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>>91077541
Marco gets the ability to explode objects by throat singing
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>>91078173
Well, I just mean that Star's dad could probably survive a tornado and he's a mewman.

Marco's dad is Star's adoptive father and he'd probably die in a tornado.
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>>91078119
Don't be ridiculous anon. If Dan Snyder was in charge we'd see a lot with... her... feet...
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>>91078176
>Oskar full on punches Star in the face
>Star just slowly looks back towards him with a look of mild anger
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>>91077809
There is no more violent fight scenes because that's hard work instead now all episodes are about lesbian love and Marco takes his daily estrogen pills.
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>>91078176

I don't think Oscar could actually hurt her physically. She got flattened by that Crocodile monster and was pretty much fine.

Granted, if Oscar laid a hand on Star, Ponyhead would impale him before Marco could do anything.
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>>91078174
Dont do this
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>>91078176
>>91078201
>>91078210
What if Oskar punched Marco because Star kept paying attention to Marco instead of him?
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>>91078195
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>>91078090
>Season 3 by Craig McCracken
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>>91078231
Marco would kick his ass keytards can't fight.
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>>91078216
Live action Star vs the forces of evil with marco as drake bell when?
>>
Remember when people actually thought Starco would be endgame? Good times, good times.
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>>91078119
This can't be Dan.

Not enough bare feet.
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>>91077094
QUICK RUNDOWN?
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>>91078243
>Season 4 by Seth Rogen
>>
Official theme of all SvtFoE threads

https://youtu.be/9aofoBrFNdg
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>>91078248
But Marco is weak against humans.

Mostly I just want to know how badly Star would beat the shit out of Oskar after that.
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>>91078279
Actually
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmR0DAjKjL0
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>>91077850
Meh. Faust is a good director. It was the people who came later that fucked up autism horses.
>>
Season 3 by Hulk Hogan and the Ultimate Warrior
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>>91078279
>>91078312
niggas please
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXYMBEW3D9s
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>>91078305
Fucking hell that's hilarious.
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>>91078279
Let's be honest the real theme of these threads is the last verse of Ruberiet's song
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>>91077541
>Star and Ludo in a legit team up.
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>>91078254
When hell freezes over.
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>>91078305

Pretty funny but a little try hard.
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>>91078254
STOP.
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>>91075003
>Possesed

Implying she won't willing join the dark side.
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>>91078342
>>91078347
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYMLFiBRD3U
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>>91078124
He has a few songs complaining about his mom including "Mom dont tell me what to do", no mention of his dad. He doesnt go home but sleeps and lives in his car. There's a track of his called "I dont like your Boyfriend, Mom". Doesnt mean he's abused, the boyfriend could just be a nice guy but 'youre not my dad'.

Single mom failing to raise him is the main issue.
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>>91077737
Isn't japan recently in bonbon?
If so i wanna hear that heart break in japanese.
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>>91078294

she'd accidentally dip down and really hurt Oscar, which becomes the focus of the remainder of that episode/the next
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>>91078090
>>91078119
CN plebs cant understand cunnykino
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>>91078377

Ah, okay. Fits with what we see.
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>>91077292
nothing changes, because animators are the lowest in the chain of command.
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>>91078090
>>91078119
>Implying Zack Snyder isn't already on the team
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>"Hey anon me and a bunch of people from /k/ are gonna liberate rhodesia, wanna come?"
What do?
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>>91078374
Why are you doing this
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>>91078105
>all past rulers have been queens

T.b.h. I've been under the assumption that they've only had first born female successors or heirs, as unrealistic as that sounds (not that it would be the first show to do something like this, either).

Or that they have a rule that says to limit the amount of children to one each generation, due to only having one family wand and in doing so it would stop any struggle for power that would occur with multiple children.

So there's a few scenarios that are possible:

1. Only Female successors have been born up to this point in time

2. There is a limit on how many kids a Mewman can have biologically or legally as ruler

3. Only females can take throne

Scenario two is a given, since there's only one wand and its unlikely they will or could ever create another one

River took her name because she's from the royal line, not him. He comes from a clan of warriors. So it only makes sense that he'd have to take her name.
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>>91078437
Nah thanks babe I'm hanging out with the gf tonite.
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>>91078374
>>91078455
>you are in charge for a star vs the forces of evil live action movie
>but you either have to cast drake bell or brendan frasier as marco
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>>91075434
>>91076872
Marco is confirmed Mars in the show, so his monster arm could be The Spear of Mars

>A relic or fetish called the spear of Mars. The spear was said to move, tremble or vibrate at impending war or other danger to the state.

Also goes with Star is Venus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VB9PhyY6a0
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>Season 3
>Guest Director: Makoto Shinkai

A boy falls in love with a girl.
Unable to confess, he is gifted with by a cuck ex bug with the girl’s phone number. Never minding the strange area code, he immediately calls her, and is overjoyed to find out that she has a crush on him as well.
But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day’s confessions to the girl, she only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the girl he called is not the same girl he fell in love with. In fact, she doesn’t exist in this universe at all. She is the girl’s alternate universe counterpart, who has fallen in love with the MC’s own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of her crush.
Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of LOVE.
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>>91078487
Can i cast Keanu instead?

i dunno man im just really gay for him
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>>91078487
I'll cast Brendan and Jumpstart his dead career again.
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>>91078094
REEEE THESE ARE THE WORST DREAMS
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>>91078511
you can but on the condition that you go with anthony burch's script
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>>91078437
Star! For Christ's sake, don't eat the brownies!
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Make a Star Vs game

Developer:
Genre:
Budget:
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Before the thread dies does anyone have a webm of Kelly saying yeah to his bf.

Does anyone else agree Kelly is cute and deserves more?
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>>91078458
>>91078066
>>91078105
The book literally uses the word "matrilineal" in reference to the kingdom and says a male can only become royalty by marrying a queen.
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>>91078553
>Make a Star Vs game
>Developer:ubisoft
>Genre:rpg
>Budget:$30
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>>91078458
while all 3 are possible the third one seems the most likely, the first is unlikely and the second is simply not the case, Moon only had one child but there isn't a limit, I believe we have seen Moon's sisters as background characters at court and the book confirmed a case of a past princess being usurped by her sister

Also River isn't some random barbarian he is a noble from a neighboring kingdom, given it seems that his native kingdom is more barbaric in nature
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>>91075717
>>91076656
>>91076907
Star and Marco grooming the other is yet another new fetish.
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>>91078559
>Before the thread dies
>341 replies
What's the rush anon?
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>>91078553
Paradox Interactive
Grand Strategy Dating Sim
50 Euros
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>>91078553
Developer: Dingaling
Genre: RPG
Budget: $650
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>>91078553
Dev : Intelligent Systems
Genre : rpg
Budget : 500k
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>>91078581
You never know, since season 2 was over threads have been dying at around 300-400 replies
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>>91078553
Developer:Platinum
Genre:Character Action
Budget:100 million
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>>91078553
Developer: NASA
Genre: Space navigation and astrophysics simulator
Budget: $300,000,000
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>>91078553
>>91078553
>Developer:sega
>Genre:side scroller beat em up.
>Budget:a blank check
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>>91078590
>star the painful
>marco loses everything to save star
>in the sequel star goes full edgelord
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>>91078572
>Star and Marco grooming the other

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6wOiTJZT-Y
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>>91078437
Join the fuck in!
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Does Marco currently (as of S2 end) have any romantic feelings towards Star?

He certainly loves her as a best friend, but has he shown any noticeable non-platonic attraction to her?
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>>91078600
That's not true at all.

Every recent thread I can remember has lasted until bump limit/page 10.
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>>91078600
I've always seen these threads end in 600+ replies.
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>>91078553
Developer: Nightdive Studios
Genre: Immersive Sim
Budget: $10,000,000
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>>91078615
the game is actually the Asteroid redirect mission with a different name; but now instead of redirecting the asteroid, they use a nuke powered laser to blow it apart.
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>>91078634
Unknown, but Bloodmoon Ball implied he was jealous of Star not finding him a suitable date for "a different kind of fun." He may or may not still hold on to those feelings.

In fact, now that I realize it, he doesn't really start making any serious attempts on Jackie until after BMB.
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>>91078553
Developer: US Military/DARPA
Genre: Realistic dating sim
Budget: Current defense budget
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>>91078501
>that episode where Jackie heard there was an "obelisk" on "Phobos" and pulled that up
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>>91078634
>Does Marco currently (as of S2 end) have any romantic feelings towards Star?

I feel like that's the question Marco's going to struggle with at the Star of season 3.

The answer is going to be yes because that's the only way the story moves forward.

But throughout the series he's quick to shoot down the idea of anything romantic between him and Star whenever anyone else brings it up.
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>>91078636
>>91078653
Lucky, but where's that webm?
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>>91077813
this seems pretty plausible already though

it does seem like kind of a double standard how she causes a lot of the episode's conflicts similar to mabel, but /co/ doesn't really call her out like they do mabel
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I just want to see Star alone and unhappy. Why must you Starcofags ruin this for me?
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>>91078698
The fact that he's quick to do it and doesn't shoot it down calmly just raises more flags. His reaction to River asserting their relationship was especially weird.
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>>91078458
Johannsens are a proper barbarian kingdom
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>>91078588
>Paradox Interactive

I hope someone makes a CK2 mod based on Mewni if we ever find out enough about the geography/history/politics of the place.
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>>91078634
>Does Marco currently (as of S2 end) have any romantic feelings towards Star?
We have no idea as of right now.
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>>91078458
The Butterflies are literally butterflies, and female insects tend to be the alphas. What do you expect?
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>>91078670

BMB kinda implied that, but the point about serious attempts on Jackie is an interesting one.

>>91078698

Does the story have to move forward that way? Like, what if they go with "Star has to learn to accept that her feelings won't be reciprocated but that doesn't mean Marco doesn't care for her and that their friendship is ded" instead?

I mean I'm pretty heavy on Starco shipping...but I do admit that Jackie and Marco seem to be good for each other/make each other happy, and....well, I'm not quite sure where I'm going with this other than "would it be good from a narrative standpoint to have Star recognize that Marco doesn't feel the same way about her, and accept that/grow from that"
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>>91078761
>and female insects tend to be giant useless squishbags
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>>91078742
>Mewberty character events
>Your daughter kidnapped and raped a local noble while going through Mewberty do you...
>Blame the noble for seducing your daughter
>Disinherit your daughter for being a rapist
>Force they to get married to try and save face
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>>91078564
Which raises the question: What happens if the only child of the current queen is male? Do they inherit by default or does it pass to the nearest female relative?

Enatic-Cognatic or Absolute Enatic?
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>Season 3
>Guest director: Charles Manson
fucking hell Nefcy
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>>91078723
Star's gotten called out a lot in the second season.

Not so much the first, yeah, but the finale that season touched on it a bit and had her make an actual sacrifice.
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>>91078501
confirmed how and where? I'm intrigued, tell me more
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>>91078796
Depends... what kind of stats are we talking here?
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>>91078779
Now now, you don't gotta blame all insects for your mother.
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>>91078799
Nefcyromancy
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>>91078799
>>Guest director: Charles Manson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXm8qI_ia6I
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>>91078762
>Does the story have to move forward that way?

Yes because Marco having feelings for Star is what motivates him to reunite with her.
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>>91078634
No, he doesnt feel the same. The final confession doesnt change that much of how Marco feels. He was presented with the idea of Star having a crush on him and he was uncomfortable and avoided her. In the end he wanted things back to how they used to be. Star formally admitting his crush wont make him love Star back.
>but it worked for Marco
Jackie was already aware of a crush before but Marco confessing alone didnt change her mind, it was all of his other heartfelt words and admissions to Jackie.
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>>91078723
Star gets reprimanded and often weaves her own sorrow and has to deal with it. Mabel gets away with everything and expects others to reinforce her mood and validate her.

Simple put, Star is actually in the process of growing up.
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>>91078839

I mean the dude spent 16 years trying to get scissors for Star, he clearly values her friendship a hell of a lot.

Given what they've been through for each other, he doesn't NEED to have romantic feelings for her in order to be motivated to find her.
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>>91078458
It's more like River married into the Butterfly family which is why he took the name Butterfly
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>>91078847
>He was presented with the idea of Star having a crush on him and he was uncomfortable and avoided her.

You would also do that if you did have feelings for the person but were afraid of screwing up the relationship you already have.
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>>91078857
>Given what they've been through for each other, he doesn't NEED to have romantic feelings for her in order to be motivated to find her.

But the romantic aspect is the conflict that's been presented to us by the finale.

Things don't have to play out like that but that's what the groundwork they've been laying is pointing towards.
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>>91078796
>molest your daughter so she can she how it feels and move past it, content that she's learned her lesson
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>>91078812
Depends on how good of taste your daughter has

If we are talking about Star, she probably raped Oskar so, Weak, Slow, Slothful, but with the Poet trait

Then again maybe she raped Marco, Brawny, Just, Kind, I think I will count karate class as a low end Military Education,

Obviously Star has the Magic Protege trait so you definitely don't wanna disinherit her,
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>>91078803
The name Marco is an Italian baby name. In Italian the meaning of the name Marco is: Mars (Roman god of war)

From Starcushed. Oscar's instrument

>Oscar: You think maybe it will end up on....Mars?
>Star: Oh I don't know Mars is pretty far away
>Oscar: What are you saying?
>Star: No..I mean ya maybe..maybe it will end up on Mars

Proceeds to fall on Marco's house at the end of episode.
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>>91078857
He didnt do it for Star, he did it for himself
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>>91078894
>implying they wont pull a korra on us
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>>91078894
>still thinking that Star needs a hero
Star is a Mewnipendent feminist who only needs a friend
I really hope the scissors are disabled by Hek or star magicked them away.
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>>91078894

Marco was told "I have to leave, something came up, oh BTW I have a crush on you" so he has an idea that there's something going on, and given his friendship with Star it's not unreasonable that he follows and tries to figure out what the hell is going on (sans any romantic interest). He's not gonna go "welp I guess that's it don't care about following up/finding what's going on"

I agree that his feelings for Star-or lack of them-will come up/become a reason though (just that they don't have to be the primary one for the initial "Marco tries to find Star")
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>>91078902
interesting....
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>>91078944
Shut up, Jackie.
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>>91078902
Oh wow, I never noticed that.
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>>91078950
>I agree that his feelings for Star-or lack of them-will come up/become a reason though (just that they don't have to be the primary one for the initial "Marco tries to find Star")

I can't imagine that Jackie isn't going to force the issue there.

Because they showed her looking pissed off at Star's confession for a reason.

If Jackie was going to be cool with Marco going to Star or was going to tag along, they wouldn't show her looking like that.
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>>91078989
she didn't look pissed so much as mortified. Like thats a pretty fucking awkward situation to have someone else admit they're in love with your boyfriend. In public. At a party with all your peers. also in front of said BF's parents
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>>91078989
Were gonna have either jackie forces marco to take her along with maybe janna or marco chooses between jackie and star episode
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>>91078989
That expression doesnt really convey anger and even if it did that's a big stretch to assume Jackie wont come along from an expression alone, you dont know how Marco would handle that.
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>>91078989

Entirely fair.

The thing is then, if that happens-Marco hasn't really shown substantial non-platonic attraction to Star (seems to be the consensus). So....then what? Does Marco go behind Jackie's back, does he just go "lol okay bye Star" (not gonna happen obviously), etc.

The tricky part then becomes balancing Jackie's reaction without making her character awful.
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>>91078961
>>91078967
Brought up in earlier theory

>Not to mention Red is the color associated with the god of war--the planet Mars was so named because of its red color, resembling blood. Not to mention that he always wears a red hoodie, and focuses on getting a red belt.
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>hey anon can you give me like fifty dollars
>it's for school
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>>91079028
>does he just go "lol okay bye Star"

"I gotta go after Star."
"Star's fine, Marco."
"Yeah, you're right, Jackie."

And Star was using her spell to spy on them at the time.
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>>91079060
...but you can literally conjure money out of thin air with your wand.
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>>91079060
sure

If I had literally any money at all
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>>91079060
Are you willing to work for that money, Star? Or are you just asking for a handout?
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>>91079060
I give money to young girls for exactly one reason and it isn't charity.
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>>91079060
Get out of my dimension mewman
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>>91079028
I dont believe Jackie would make an ultimatum that Marco never hang out with Star. Marco would tell them he doesnt reciprocate Star's crush and try to get them to be just friends. If Marco could get an Tom to calm down he could get two girls who were already friends to remain friends and from then on it's really up to Star whether she can get over her crush like a big girl or keep running away from Marco because of her crush, embarrassment, and awkwardness.
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>>91079070
If she conjures up the money there's a high risk that the money will have sentience in some form.
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>>91079140
>I dont believe Jackie would make an ultimatum that Marco never hang out with Star.

But she might break up with him if he chases after Star when Star isn't in any danger and just confessed to him.

He always treats Star as a higher priority than Jackie and that was fine before she found out that they were possibly in love with each other.
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What's the single most embarrassing Jackie-related thing Star could do?
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>>91079148
And why would Star need money anyway? She just puts everything on Marco's tab and tells him about it later.
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>>91079197
Disguise herself as Jackie
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>>91079140

Yea, I don't think Jackie would make such an ultimatum. At least I'd hope not, seems pretty out of character.

Your timeline is valid and is also good for character growth (of Star, and Marco to an extent), but as someone who does admittedly want Starco to happen, I'm not sure then how organically Starco can happen (ideas, anyone?) without making Jackie look bad/too unsympathetic

Again, because Marco hasn't really shown significant non-platonic attraction to Star.
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>>91079197
Does Jackie have to be involved or could it just be based around Jackie?

Because imitating Jackie in any way when Marco meets up with her would be extremely embarrassing. Like if Marco shows up and Star has a blue streak in her hair or is holding a skateboard, that'd be pretty bad.
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What do you think's gonna happen to Ludo next season?
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>>91079244
Nothing, they'll exorcise Toffee and Ludo will die in the process nbd
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Does anyone have a good shot of Jackie's skateboard?
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>>91079188
>Marco doesn't want to go after Star because whole awkward crush.
>Jackie reassures Marco that Star is probably fine.
>Jackie and Marco live tgeir boring ass lives as Star does whatever she does in Mewni.
> Marcos confusion, guilt and questions keeps rising as he lives withiut Star.
>Eventually he can't take it and the constant not knowing of why Star left finally gets to him.
>Marco picks up his dimensional scissors having completely forgotten about Stars crush or maybe he just doesn't care anymore
>Jackie probably goes with.

All that, or Toffee gives the beat down on the Moon family so bad that Star is forced to retreat back to Earth.
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>>91079267
does this count?
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>>91079188
Jackie is so underdeveloped you really cant predict what she's going to do either way, but if she did Marco would know that something's wrong and has to be cleared up. Take away the magic and see them as normal kids. Marco is confessed to by Star who then runs home and locks herself in her room without explanation.

Star is Jackies friend and Marco's best friend. Star doesnt need to be in danger. If Jackie doesnt want Marco to sort things out with his best friend, if Jackie wants to just ignore their mutual friend out of jealousy or fear, then she is objectively shit and Jarco can go die.
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>HEY ANON! Check out my super tricked out b-beatboxing! BOOJAJAJAKAKAKAK COW COW YIPIY BOO PpllPLLPLPLPL! FNNNRNGNKKKkk BABABA BOBOBO BEEP BEEP TAKE ME TO YOUR LEADER BOW BOW BOW BOW!
>What do you think?
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>>91079244
I'm guessing that once Toffee gets his body back Ludo will be left alive and will start looking to get revenge on Toffee.
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>>91079292
>if Jackie wants to just ignore their mutual friend out of jealousy or fear, then she is objectively shit and Jarco can go die.

Now you're getting it.
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>>91079188
Honestly? I don't think she'd come off as an arsehole for breaking up with him like that either.
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>>91079317

I don't think Jackie will, because that would also retroactively put a sour note on her S2 appearances.

So, assuming Jackie isn't an ass about this-is there a way for Starco to actually organically/realistically occur (again, given Marco's lack of romantic interest in Star shown so far)?
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>>91079244
Toffee uses the Ludo's princely title to formally destroy the monster/mewman accord, rally Ludos siblings and other monster nobles to his cause after a display of his magic power, then plunge Mewni into a great war.
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>>91079060
sure
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>>91075246
Ok Star. Calm down sweetie. You dont want another cigarette in your eye.
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>>91079360
HOL UP
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>>91079349

If Jackie said "look you're a nice guy and I enjoy our time but you clearly value Star as much if not more than me and while I'm her friend, I'm just not comfortable with that/I think you need to look at your friendship with Star and see if it's really as platonic as you think it is" or something along those lines, it'd be unsurprising (also perhaps a catalyst for Marco to think about how he feels about Star)

also would make Jackie an even better character
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>>91079349
Neither do I but apparently a lot of people would be really upset about that even though it would be perfectly reasonable for Jackie.

And Marco leaving to go see Star even knowing the damage it'd do to his relationship with Jackie is also perfectly reasonable.

It's going to be what kills that relationship but people want it to be something else for some reason.
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AYYYO IT'S

REAL MEWGGA HOURS REAL MEWGGA HOURS

SMASH THAT MEWFUCCIN LIKE BUTTON
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>>91077707
This show needs to move back to the Disney Channel or just do a marathon there. Fuck.
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>>91079352
But what

will happen

TO LUDO?
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>You wanted to see me, Mr. Anonymous?
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>>91076796
Awww she actually seems touched.
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>>91079446
We've received reports that you've been harassing Marco Diaz.

We can't have that on the school grounds, Miss. Butterfly. I'm sorry about your classes are going to be re-assigned and we ask that you keep your distance from Mr. Diaz.
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>>91079350
>S2 appearances.
Theyre not risking that much if they do that. No matter how you cut it it's a dick move, but if we had to force Starco as soon as possible it could be done without making Jackie look like a petty piece of shit in various ways I dont feel like listing, but you could imagine them. Most of them, would be easier in the normal format of season 1 and 2 but who knows how long the Toffee situation will last and when slice of life episodes will be back.


Honestly Id rather see Starco in season 4 after Marco has had more time with Jackie. Star has had boyfriends before but Jackie is Marco's first. Somehow I think Starco ending would be stronger if Marco didnt just end up with the first girl who he dated, I cant explain why.
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Do you think Star's killed any humans yet?
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>>91079349
>hey Marco Im your girlfriend now so you gotta lose your old friends, just straight up ignore them and dont help them out when they have problems
It's like an episode of Seinfeld or something.
How would that not be cunty
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>>91079567
She's destroyed a billion cop cars.

They can't all be empty.
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>>91079416
Gets his big boy body
He can fly, so good
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>>91079591
The only problem Star has that they know about is that she's in love with Marco.

Marco going after her would be like if he said Star's name instead of Jackie's while they were getting married.

So, not quite Seinfeld.
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>>91079446
Yes Star, we need to talk about your...problems as of late. In a time span of two days you managed to disobey your mother, again, and not stick with the original princess song, your caviler behavior has destabilized the entire Kingdom of Mewni and placed the power of your parents in jeopardy, the Magic High Commission got oneshotted by a possessed Ludo thanks to you losing Glossaryck, oh, you fucking lost Glossaryck, you spilled your spaghetti in front of your best friend(and dozens of partygoers) despite him having a girlfirend, which YOU pushed him to get by the way, and you continue to run away from your problems. Oh, and Ruberiot is probably fucking dead for that song shit too.
Did I leave anything out?
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>>91079567
you could argue that when she met mina, she let that tour guide die due to inaction when he was swallowed by mud.
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>>91078143
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>>91079567
>very first episode
>this happens

Gee anon, I don't know...
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>>91077683
This.
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>>91079619
>best friend very quickly disappears while in obvious distress
>know first hand that her home is potentially under threat from an evil/insane Kappa thing that stole her all powerful spellbook

so why would it be so wrong for Marco to try and go after Star to at least figure out what is actually going on if not also help her with it?

Listen Jackie just because your friend has a crush on you that you don't return doesn't mean you leave them to die
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>>91079675
>Listen Jackie just because your friend has a crush on you that you don't return doesn't mean you leave them to die

Actually I'm pretty sure that's exactly what it means.
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>>91079619
It would be extremely problematic if a man told a woman to never talk to another man because he's insecure of their relationship.
There is nothing inherently wrong with Marco looking for Star even if she has a crush on him, even if she's madly in love with him and proposed to him on the spot. Marco's intentions are pure regardless of his feeling for Star, he isnt looking to find Star that he can ask her out and cuck Jackie. Marco has no reason to second guess himself on looking for Star.
The issue would solely be with Jackie. If Jackie has a problem with Marco looking out for his best friend, if she doesnt trust him then she's not good enough for the Diaz. It's that simple
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>>91079446
Yes. I'm afraid that I've heard some rather disturbing rumors about you parading around offering "shoulder jobs" to other students. Ms. Butterfly? Would you like to say anything in your defense? This is a very serious issue Ms. Butterfly. I don't know how things go on "Mewni", but here on Earth, we are have a firm stance against indecent exposure.

I'm sorry Ms. Butterfly, but until this ruckus dies down, you are to cover your shoulders at all times. If I hear of you doing this type of thing again, I'll have no other option but suspension.
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>>91079624
Catungo confirmed that Ruberiot is okay.

andthatMarcoistrans
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>>91079714
>Marco's intentions are pure regardless of his feeling for Star, he isnt looking to find Star that he can ask her out and cuck Jackie. Marco has no reason to second guess himself on looking for Star.

Simple solution here, Jackie asks Marco if he has feelings for Star. We all know his answer isn't going to be no, which would be the only acceptable answer there.
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>>91079567
There's a whole tumblr in the style of autist Star/trans Marco racking up her kill count. Its at 22 I think, including monsters
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>>91079756
>Its at 22 I think, including monsters

As Queen Eclipsa told her mewman husband: Monsters don't count
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>>91079754

But he hasn't shown any real signs of more-than-platonic attraction.
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>>91079784
Well, he doesn't have to say yes, an "I don't know" is enough to torpedo his relationship with Jackie.

The only answer he can give that doesn't give Jackie a reason to break up with him is no.
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>>91079756
I think they just counted the unicorn as a kill for Storm the Castle, since obviously Toffee didn't "really" die.

But his body did get blown up as a direct result of the spell. Flesh stripped off, bones scattered everywhere, everything. Some pieces of him probably hit the cage she and Marco were in.
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>>91079784
The answer will be 'I don't know' anon.
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>>91079802

I think he'd be able to give a "no" at this point though. Like, if Marco didn't know, his interactions in S2 would...likely have been different? The Truth cube would've detected something (even if he changed his mind to Jackie and "passed" later), and Just Friends doesn't really make as much sense if Marco actually has romantic feelings for Star.
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>>91079834
he's a 14 year old, do you really think he is all that understanding of his own god damn feelings?
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>>91079714
It isn't wrong to be uncomfortable with your partner running off after someone who is in love with them, regardless of how your partner feels about that person.

I may not be totally rational but it isn't wrong. It's a very human way to feel.
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>>91079834
>I think he'd be able to give a "no" at this point though.

He's not going to say no.

Do you really think Jarco is endgame?
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>>91079725
>Whaaaaat? I've never offered a shoulder job in my life, Mr. Anonymous.
>Wingjobs are another story though. I'd be happy to show you, if you were willing to forget about this whole thing. A real wingjob. From a real Mewni princess. That's a once in a lifetime opportunity.
>What do you say, Mr. Anonymous? You Whip out yours and, hee hee, I'll Whip out mine.
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>>91079754
So what if his answer isnt no? Would Jackie honestly say she has feelings for no one else and that only Marco is on her mind? Speck of sawdust in one, log in the other.
It's normal to have feelings for others while in a relationship, but that doesnt mean theyre equal or stronger than his feelings for Jackie, and we all know how he feels about Star doesnt compare at all to how he feels about Jackie.
Marco's intentions are still pure even if he is in love with Star because the main reason is checking on Star after she suddenly ran off with little explanation. As a friend he's obliged to do this.
Again the issue is with Jackie. We dont know her well but we know Marco. If Jackie doesnt believe in Marco's love for her and trust him then that's her loss.
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>>91079853

No, of course not, but I'm trying to see how it could be done/viewed from an outside perspective.

Like, what do we-as viewers-see that Marco has done/said that indicates he has more-than-platonic feelings for Star (especially given that we have how he acted/acts towards Jackie, who he does have romantic feelings for)?
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Think Jackie would be ok with Star asking Marco to knock her up so she could preserve the royal blood line?
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making another one of those "2015 /co/ reacts (negatively) to star vs." images

planning on making a few just to have a record of some of the comments it got over time, if we ever lose archives or anything. there are some really early posts last summer about s2 that were spot on about certain things that happened this season so it won't all be negative stuff
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>>91079778
delet this
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>>91079871

I mean I *want* Starco to be endgame, but I also want it to not feel forced/done in a way without making Jackie look awful.

I think if *right now* (as in, 30 min after the ending of S2 or something), Marco would honestly be able to say "no" (at least from what we've seen, as opposed to whatever Marco thoughts we don't know about)
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>>91079885
What did we as viewers see that Jackie did/said that indicated she had more-than-platonic feelings for Marco before she learned that he had a crush on her?
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>>91079885
>romantic feelings
I think you mean an unhealthy obsession with
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>>91079885
>Like, what do we-as viewers-see that Marco has done/said that indicates he has more-than-platonic feelings for Star

His entire relationship with Star is only platonic because the show says it is.
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>>91079887

nice, make sure to post it every so often, always good to see what was right/wrong
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>>91079908

Entirely fair, and given that they're 14/15, yea.

>>91079914

Eh, after Sleepover, it seems like Marco has a more...healthy? view of Jackie.

>>91079923

Do you mean that if we just saw their relationship from the outside without being told if it's romantic or platonic (and without knowing the show, etc.), it'd be more reasonable to assume the relationship was romantic due to how close they are/what they've done for each other/their interactions?
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>>91079964
>Do you mean that if we just saw their relationship from the outside without being told if it's romantic or platonic (and without knowing the show, etc.), it'd be more reasonable to assume the relationship was romantic due to how close they are/what they've done for each other/their interactions?

Yes.

I feel I should also point out that Star herself thought her feelings were platonic before she cucked herself.

Star's confession is probably going to play a similar role in Marco realizing his feelings for Star.
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>>91079979
I really hope not. "sometimes people doesn't reciprocate your feelings" is a lesson you don't see that many times in tv. Specially for female leads.
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>>91080005

That's the thing.

As much as I want Starco to be endgame, I think that having Star grow from not having her feelings reciprocated (yet still being loved by Marco) might be what Nefcy's going for.

It's a good lesson, and wouldn't really be out of character with what we've seen so far.
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>>91079868
Sure, she's only human. It may actually be rational depending on the person and context, but as viewers we know Marco's character better than Jackie.

Star had a crush on Marco but still supported Marco with Jackie for the sake of his happiness and tried her hardest to crush on Oskar instead so she could still be friends with Marco as opposed to avoiding Marco forever because she cant get with him or actively sabotaging his relationship.

Marco has every reason to go after Star in the name of friendship regardless of what Jackie thinks and if she cant even meet him halfway then Jarco is dead in the water.
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>>91080033
>>91080005
Eh, there's no reason for me to watch the show if that's where this is headed.
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>>91080051
>Marco has every reason to go after Star in the name of friendship

But there's no reason for urgency. Marco can go after Star when she doesn't show up for school after the Summer.
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>>91079908
But she always knew but didnt want to ruin their "friendship"
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>>91080070
don't worry, somebody else will fill your spot.
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>>91080098
That makes Jackie seem more like a bitch than giving an ultimatum to Marco about Star.
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>>91080033
I think it would be pointlessly awkward. Feelings for a person don't just go away if that person doesn't reciprocate (as Star herself has realised). As long as Star and Marco are friends, the feelings will always be there in the background as a pointless loose thread. It might be a good Aesop but it isn't good storytelling.
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>>91080097

Star said that something's gone wrong and that's why she's leaving/had to confess, and Marco knows the book is gone/with Ludo.

At the bare minimum, after a couple of days of 0 star and 0 contact with her (or Hekapoo if he tries to find her), he's gonna go after her (assuming no Jackie interference).
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>>91080033
So how does having Marco and Star be separated get us towards that goal?

Are they just going to drift apart once they're not around each other and her feelings will just undramatically and slowly die? Or will they reunite and put us back to the status quo of the beginning of Starcrushed, with the awkwardness of unrequited feelings? Is there another option that isn't anticlimactic and doesn't negate plot developments (I would like to hear it!)?
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>>91080098
She effectively confessed to *NOT* having a crush on Marco when she answered the game's question.
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>>91080127

This is true. They can dissipate, and the involved parties can still be really close, but that takes time and understanding (which is not made easier if the parties involved are 14/15 and have magical conflicts and other stuff). It'd also color the physical interactions that Star and Marco do, and would cause a big shift in those (if it didn't....that'd be weird, or indicate that Marco does have some romantic feelings for Star, in which case hoo-boy, he's lying to himself/Star/Jackie).


I think your point about "it's a good Aesop but doesn't really work in terms of storytelling here" is on point.
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>>91080129
>At the bare minimum, after a couple of days of 0 star and 0 contact with her (or Hekapoo if he tries to find her), he's gonna go after her (assuming no Jackie interference).

But with no concrete danger to point to, Jackie is going to keep having the upper hand in that debate until Star fails to show up to school or Marco learns more about her situation.

The only way for Marco to go after Star earlier than that is if he's being emotional about Star and going against his girlfriend's wishes. Which would point to Marco having non-platonic feelings about Star.
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>>91080151
She knew about his crush before but didnt have a crush on him. If she admitted that she knew and didnt feel the same it'd make things even more awkward between them. Sound familiar.
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>>91080130

dunno lol, that's why I'm asking you all for reasonable ideas

that's the tricky thing-if Starco is endgame (and I sincerely hope it is), how can it be done in an organic/realistic manner that doesn't screw over previous characterization/plot points

nefcy pls
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>>91080166
No she didn't. When asked the same question again after learning of Marco's crush the game accepted 'I don't know who my crush is' as a truthful answer. She learned something new and her feelings changed.
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>>91080176
>how can it be done in an organic/realistic manner

Organic and realistic doesn't mean that everybody's going to be happy at the end of this or come out of it looking good.

In fact, if it's realistic I'd bet on the opposite happening and they all make mistakes and look a little bad at various points and only the couple who came together will be happy.

The only way this ends without heartbreak is if Jackie didn't care about Marco that much after all.
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>>91080160

I mean Marco has routinely put his safety in danger for Star, I don't think it's a stretch for him to say "yo, given what's happened recently [Ludo has the book, Star leaving so suddenly], I need to figure out what's going on"

I really don't think that he HAS to have romantic feelings for Star in order to be worried and go looking for her given the previous times he's gone with/after/to help her
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>>91080176
>how can it be done in an organic/realistic manner that doesn't screw over previous characterization/plot points

Star didn't realize her feelings for Marco until she lost him (to Jackie.) Until that point, we didn't get anything overt - excluding the 100% telling that was the Truth Cube - to say that she had more-than-platonic feelings for him.

Now Marco's lost Star. And learned something very important about her right before. Suppose this may prod him to sort out what he really feels, whatever that may be?
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>>91080203
>I really don't think that he HAS to have romantic feelings for Star in order to be worried and go looking for her given the previous times he's gone with/after/to help her

He does if he's going against the wishes of his girlfriend.

That's kind of the key difference.
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>>91080097
>>91080160

Star left in a massive hurry giving a warning sign that there is some urgency. The uncertainty of why she left makes it even more urgent. Only if Marco was certain there is no urgency would there be no urgency.

Things are already on Defcon 2 with Star losing the book to Ludo.

There is no basis in your claim Marco should wait after months of no contact to look for his best friend who he can reach effortlessly with a magic pair of scissors. Marco doesnt even have to physically reach her, just get to the nearest dimensional mirror and try to call her, then physically look from her if that fails.
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>>91080197

I'm fine with things going messily (in fact, I'd expect/hope them too because that's what actually happens with love triangles in real life), and with people getting hurt and not ending up very happy.

I just want (a) Starco to be endgame and (b) nobody coming out of it looking like a giant ass (or if they do, reconciliation to some degree)
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>>91080005
this is the first time i give an actual fuck for a ship, isn't just ''hey we look good together'', they both grow up as they doing things together, i would be actually sad.
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>>91080176
Well, it's not that hard. Right now, Marco and Jackie have only gone on one date together, at least on-screen. They haven't really had time to do anything together. Maybe it's just a matter of "they date, over time realize it's not working, and then break up"? I mean, how much do they actually know about each other? It'd be perfectly realistic for them to just naturally break up because they realize things just aren't working out. From there on, Marco's free to start thinking about other things, like his bond with Star or something.

I don't know, man, I'm not good with romance.
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>>91080215

This is a good point. Even in the guidance counselor thing, Star is pretty firm on the "no I'm not interested in Marco romantically" thing.

And high-pressure scenarios, especially ones where big loss stands to happen (Star told Marco she possibly will not see him ever again), are great in getting people to figure out their real feelings (whatever they might be).
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>>91080223
>(b) nobody coming out of it looking like a giant ass (or if they do, reconciliation to some degree)

How often do love triangles resolve with everyone still being friends?

Like, the show is probably going to go in that direction but they're going to have to pull off some unrealistic bullshit to do it because that's not how those things generally work out.
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>>91080185
Read the book, Jackie says it plain as day. She knew about Marco's crush just from the way he acted for years. Her reacting after actually being confessed to doesnt mean she didnt know before. There's clearly a difference between a guy acting weird and nervous around you and him properly confessing his heart out like Marco did.
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>>91080127
>tfw
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>>91080249
>She knew about Marco's crush just from the way he acted for years.

Hindsight is 20/20.
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>>91080234

Another good point. As you said, Jackie and Marco have been on like one actual on screen date, and even including the finale and Just Friends, they've not spent that much time together. In real life, you can totally have a couple of great dates and still not have things work out (and still end things amicably and be friends).

I think that the focus on "Marco has a really long-term crush on this one girl" repeatedly makes it seem (to me) a deeper relationship than it actually is at this point in time.
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>>91080176
if it goes the realistic way, Star and marco won't end up together. Its true that both of them pass a lot of their time together, but the show isn't linear and they aren't on an adventure every day of the week. Maybe marco and jackie go out to do stuff every other day of the week and we just don't know because it's not relevant to the current story (just like marco's $640 in revenues).

If you want it to end organic, the answer is simple. Marco breaks with jackie, she gets sad and/or understands and gets erased from the show. She might appear later with another boyfriend, but it would be just to show everyone that she moved on.
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>>91080243

The older you get the easier it is (not saying "WE'RE ALL GONNA BE BESTIES" but like, speaking terms/hanging out in a group), but yea, they're 14/15.

I mean even if they all ended on "speaking terms/hanging out in group terms" I'd consider that fine.
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>>91080005
Lesson lesson lesson! Every time I see someone say "I don't want Starco to happen" (aside from just "...because I just like this other ship more" which I have zero problem with) it's for the sake of something they want preached. (Back in the old days, it was "boys and girls can be just friends" but we're a good ways past that point now...)

I'd rather people treat the characters more like individuals and less like props in a morality play. If you're writing, you'll get better stories (with stronger morals!) if you do things this way.
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>>91080276
Social circles based entirely around one guy's dick rarely work out.
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>>91080289

True enough. Especially amongst teenagers.
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>>91080261
It's not like Marco was subtle. Star instantly figures that he has a crush.
She barely says more than a few words to him up until then. Marco is harmless and Jackie is a chill girl who would gain nothing from humiliating Marco. When they started to actually become friends with Star she had an actual reason to not admit she knew and stay friends.
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>>91080287
>Lesson lesson lesson!

Thanks, mom.

Really though, legit advice.
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>>91080287
problem is, executives don't like that very much. if you want your show to sell, they have to give you a lesson. Maybe not for every chapter, but some must have one.

And even if starco ends as cannon, there is another lesson there too: "if you tell someone about your feelings for them ,they will always respond in kind" Its the same shit, but from a different angle
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>>91080287
So do you want a character study?
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>>91080347
Nothing the box says conflicts with this
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>>91080340
>Its the same shit, but from a different angle

yea, either way there's a "lesson" that will be taught, the question is if characters are acting how they would normally (in order to "teach" the lesson) or if it's being hamfisted in
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>>91080340
whered my post go
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>>91080340
> "if you tell someone about your feelings for them, they will always respond in kind"
Where do you get "always" from the ways these few individuals behave? (Does the show have a responsibility to show every possible outcome of every situation?)

See, the characters don't do things just because anyone would, they do what they do because of who they are. If someone draws WAY excessive conclusions from that, that's not the show's fault.

>>91080345
...Are you offering? (If so, absolutely!)
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>>91080328
So why does the box accept a different answer after Marco confesses his feelings? I'd say the book is a case of hindsight and an unreliable narrator.
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>>91080402
Then take away the "always" then; the result is the same. A cliche story that has been told thousands of times before.
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>>91080402

doesn't have to be always, but you still raise a good counterpoint

DESU I'm trying to see if I can justify my Starco endgame desires with what we actually have seen so far and good storytelling (because if it's not written well/done "right" then it just feels hollow, especially given the emotional pain Star has gone through in S2 because of her feelings for Marco
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>>91080408
>Her reacting after actually being confessed to doesnt mean she didnt know before. There's clearly a difference between a guy acting weird and nervous around you and him properly confessing his heart out like Marco did.

Watch his confession again and the later scene, or read it here.

>Marco: I told you, I have a crush on Jackie. At least I think I do. But what does that really mean? I've put her on this sort of pedestal. So do I like the image of her or who she really is? I mean, I like her enough to know that she deserves someone who wants to get to know her, which is definitely me.
>Jackie: [smiles]

>Star: Jackie, who do you have a crush on?
>Jackie: Uh... I don't... I don't know anymore.
>Game: No! [screams]

Obviously these words and Marco being up front moved Jackie. Of course this gave her a different reaction than Marco saying literally one word and acting weird around her.

It's unlikely it's hindsight when Marco's crush was obvious to both Janna and Star plus Jackie and Marco have been in the same class for so long she'd have to be brain dead not to pick up on it. There arent many alternative explanations for why boys act nervous around cute girls.

Also Jackie never confessed to *not* having a crush on Marco. She confesses to a crush on the guy from skate camp and due to the flawed nature of the game that can be true and it can also be true she had a crush on Marco before then.
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>>91080496
fair point.
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>>91080424
>A cliche story that has been told thousands of times before.
No, not exactly. Not THIS story with THESE characters. Maybe I'm wrong about this, but I don't see personalities as fungible.

You're gonna have a bad time if you think story quality directly depends on the novelty of its plot elements. Every imaginable plot element has already been used, at least if broken down to the level of "two people fall in love." (If you have a counterexample, please do show me!)
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>>91080518

This is a good point-telling a good moral doesn't really mean much if the surrounding story sucks/the characters suck/the moral is inconsistent with what is being portrayed (character actions, setting, etc.)

I'm not saying that's exactly what's happening with Starco and the "your romantic feelings will not always be reciprocated and this is not bad/this will happen" (which I find to be a great moral) scenario
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>>91080496
>she would have to be brain dead to not pick up on it
To be fair I am still pretty sure Jackie is just a fucking total idiot

nothing wrong with that, I kinda like dumb girls myself
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>>91080550
Oh boy, I can't wait to find out that Jackie is just as dumb as Oskar.
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>>91080550
She might be seaple, theyre dumb as bricks.

Was the point of this chain, does Jackie ever show that she loves Marco? Whatever its not enough to satisfy me. Jackie needs to prove herself
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>>91080576
I doubt she is that dumb

but then again Oskar never attempted to get Star to read his mind instead of just asking for Pizza Rolls
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Are people really only watching this show for Starco? That's seems like the only thing people care about in other sites
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>>91080587
I have really mixed feelings about the whole Jackie Mermaid thing

Like there are so many ways that it could just be written super stupid
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>>91080596
Marco and Star's relationship is a big reason people watch.

The best possible conclusion to that is Starco.

Breaking the two up wouldn't be nearly as satisfying no matter how they do it.
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>>91080518
>No, not exactly. Not THIS story with THESE characters.
but why make it the same when the alternative is so much better?

Yeah, i know that story quality isn't correlated with its plot elements, but there are some plot elements that work better than others when you take in consideration the stories that have been told before in a short amount of time.

Girl falls in love with boy is one of the most usual (if not the most usual) story there is to tell and there is nothing bad with it, but frankly it is more interesting if they don't fall for each other and then see how they will try to continue their relationship.

Or end it.
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>>91080596
It is probably reason number 1 for me but I'm a sucker for shipping. Number 2 is probably to find out what happens to Ludo who is honestly my favourite character at this point in the series. I also love the lore and finding out more about the world.
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>>91080425
Don't worry too much about whether it's possible to get there from here with consistent writing. It is.

The whole situation's out of Star's hands, now. She's done all she can, but she can't interfere with nature; she has to let Marco go and can only hope he'll come back to her. (Sounds a bit familiar to me!)

Right now, it's all up to Marco. The question he's got to answer is whether the life he wants is one with Jackie or one with Star; they're very different but both are valid choices. So, based on what you know of Marco, which do you think he'd choose: the Earthly life, or the magical one?
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>>91080635
>So, based on what you know of Marco, which do you think he'd choose: the Earthly life, or the magical one?

Are you sure that's how Marco chooses to think about it?
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>>91080621

I'm not the person you're responding to, but I think the issue with that is while in a vacuum what you said is true a lot of the time, in THIS case (Starco or the show at large), the dynamic between Star and Marco is...indicative of more than just friends?

I mean it doesn't have to be, but it looks like that, and to renege on that/have them not be more than friends would probably have them cut back on the level of physical intimacy they're at?

I could be totally off, feel free to chime in.
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>>91080621
>but why make it the same when the alternative is so much better?... ...but frankly it is more interesting if they don't fall for each other and then see how they will try to continue their relationship.

Because realistically there are almost zero ways that such a relationship continues and the few possible resolutions that don't involve the relationship ending would require so much work to develop that it would get in the way of everything else that is going on in the show.
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>>91080621
>but why make it the same when the alternative is so much better?
By what standard? The standard I use is "is it true to the characters and the setup?" External considerations go into deciding how to set THOSE up, not where to go with them.

>Yeah, i know that story quality isn't correlated with its plot elements, but there are some plot elements that work better than others when you take in consideration the stories that have been told before in a short amount of time.
You'll go pinballing like crazy off "the stories that have been told before in a short amount of time" if you're trying to make your plot wholly different from theirs: I've got a plot element that's more common than "girl falls in love with boy": "the good guys win". "The bad guys win" is pretty common, too; so is every conceivable mixture. So what's an acceptable solution there?
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>>91080646
Nope, of course I'm not sure!

I am MORE confident, though, that he has not thought of it in that way at all YET. He never expected he'd have to choose: why should he have to pick when he could have had both his awesome earthly girlfriend and his awesome magical friend? But now he's got some thinking to do; we'll see what picture of the situation takes shape in his mind.
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What if Marco gets really good at jumping and he runs off to get Star back but they keep telling him she's in another castle?
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>>91080687
Are we not considering the possibility that Marco might choose both and then just try to keep them away from each other?
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>>91080621
It'd be interesting to see them try to continue the friendship but what is the purpose. It'd be nice to see the romantic relationship happen, not just because it's expected by convention, but it can be seen as a logical result from their friendship, but what is the purpose. There has to be more to it. Why is it bad to have a moral or lesson or meaning? why is it good. is this even how stories are written or should be written
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>>91080691
He has a son with Jackie that he trains to jump good and finish his quest in his place
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>>91080715
Mario never had a son.

Also, I'm pretty sure he gets Peach in the end.

You're going way off script here, buddy.
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>>91080700
Hey now, this isn't Legend of Korra! These characters actually have some empathy and ethics!
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>>91080596
i really enjoy starco, but that doesn't mean i don't enjoy the lore, now that toffee overpowered everyone is a interesting step that the story has taken.
>>91080621
i wouldn't mind if star & marco weren't so lovely to each other without being a couple.
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>>91080724
Yeah but Jack and Ashi will
Hes gotta get back
get back Princess Star
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I really hope we get some Toffee taunting Star about how Marco doesn't love her before the two of them reunite.

I really want Star to suffer so Marco can wipe away her tears and make her smile again.
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>>91080795

"Did you really think he'd come to save you even though you came for him?"

or somethin
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>>91080813
>even though you came for him
Lewd!
oh wait Storm the Castle now I get it
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>>91080795
>>91080813
You know what else would be great?

If the moment Star and Moon get back, Star's dad says something like, "Star, where's your boyfriend Marco?"

And Star runs off crying. It'd be great.
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>>91080795
We know that Star is phenomenally powerful and her magic depends on her emotions.

That's setup enough for me to kinda want her to find out that Marco DOES love her back in the darkest hour of Toffee's attacks and make pic related happen (but, like, pink instead of gold.)
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>>91080795
Would Nefcy be brave enough to have Marco visibly and permanently injured for Star's sake and give it some continuity? At least a chest scar thats hidden most the time
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>>91080856

I do admit that I want moar suffering before Starco, because it'll make it that much sweeter
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>>91080914
>I want moar suffering

sounds like these threads have been working
just according to keikaku
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>>91076431

>Be anon
>Cynical Sperglord extraordiaire
>Just got done with Maths
>Fuck an Math
>Fuck school in general
>Suddenly feel sunshine radiating across your back
>Did somebody terrorism a new window into the schoo-
>"Hi, Anon!"
>Oh it's that weird chick.
>Star Butterfly
>Faggot-ass hippy name but whatevs it's 20XX.
"Yeah?"
>You brilliantly retort.
>"Do you wanna be my date to the Prom!"
"Psh. No."
>"Oh...well, okay! Guess I'll go ask Marco! Have a good one!"
>There she goes.
>You're a thousand degrees right now.
>Because you've never been asked to anything before.
>Ever.
>Let alone asked OUT.
>By a girl.
>By a cute one...
>With a stupid cute face and-
>Man.
>Man you need to work on that reflexive withdrawl.
>Anon died alone.

>end
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>>91081042
Lol, what a stupid story!
I, for one, never was in such shameful situation, because I weren't asked out by any girl at all.
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>>91080876
What if Marco will lost his dick because of Star's fault and Jackie will drop him b?
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>>91076431
>it's okay anon, i'm not very good at socializing on earth either
>let's go somewhere quieter
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>>91081339
>Star cuts off Marco's dick with dark magic because of her Jarco-fueled rage
>Marco never can grow it back
>devises a 2complex revenge plan, spanning years, against the royal whore who disfigured him
>Marco Is Toffee
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>>91081467
>i'm not very good at socializing on earth either
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Do you think when Marco was trapped in Star's closet he was wearing her panties?
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I must be the only one who ships Tom and Star...
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minipost of /co/ reactions to Star Vs. from 2013. was going to combine 2013/14 for one general pre-release post but realized there was enough material already.

these aren't meant to be 100% negative posts, just sorta interesting/relevant reactions. but negative posts are more fun to read than "this looks cute" so that is mostly what turned out to be anyway.

Blood Moon Ball edition because many of the ragey December reactions toward the bottom are based on that storyboard test from a guy who didn't even get hired, where Star told Tom to destroy the earth rather than go to "demon prom" with him. naturally /co/ and the internet in general based all their predictions about the show and the characters involved on said rejected storyboard even as they knew it was unofficial.

the moral of this and all similar posts is that /co/ never changes
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>>91080621
What would make the alternative better? If you say "because it hasn't been done before", first off that's bullshit because it's totally been done before. There's plenty of stories where the main guy and main girl don't get together, and plenty of stories where the main character falls in love with someone who doesn't return their feelings.

Second, even if it were something that hasn't been done before, different isn't automatically better. And being different just for the sake of being different is retarded.

Third, nobody is saying they want Star and Marco to get together because they're the main characters. We want them together because they're Star and Marco, who are fucking perfect for each other.
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>>91079964
>Eh, after Sleepover, it seems like Marco has a more...healthy? view of Jackie.
He's TRIED to have a more healthy view of Jackie, but I don't think he's been entirely successful. He's still got her up on a pedestal and still has made little progress in getting to know the real Jackie.
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>>91081357
so cute
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>>91081840
>/co/ in 2013
>Knowing Disney, I seriously doubt she's going to be able to get away with whatever it is she's aiming for.
>/co/ in 2017
>THE MADWOMAN
>I WANT TO GET OFF NEFCY'S WILD RIDE
>SHE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
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>>91079834
>I think he'd be able to give a "no" at this point though.
Pre-Sleepover, Jackie would have honestly been able to say she doesn't have a romantic interest in Marco. After his confession, she said "I don't know anymore" when asked who she has a crush on.

I'd say at this point if Marco said he had no romantic interest in Star, he'd be lying. "I don't know" would be the only honest answer.
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Fresh bug for y'all
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>>91081922
Star confessing has at least forced him to view her as a romantic option, which I something I don't think he's considered since Blood Moon Ball, if ever.

I don't think that means he suddenly has feelings for her, or even any conscious interest. But I have to imagine that at least for a few days afterward, he's shaken up so badly that he doesn't know what he feels or how he should be feeling.

The thing that will make him come around and decide to go after her won't be about romance, though. He'll realize his friendship with her is worth fighting for on its own, and he'll put himself through whatever it takes to set things right between them, even if it's just for a real goodbye.
If Jackie takes real issue with him leaving, they're going to break up over it, because she either doesn't trust him enough to be faithful and honest with her, or she doesn't respect/trust his bond with Star. If she forces him to make a choice, it's going to hurt him, but it won't be hard to make.
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>>91082011
Really cute all around.
Her legs look pretty weird though, her knees are too far up her legs and they look way too thin.
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>>91082011
Nice bug.
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>>91082011
But can I fug it?
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>>91082011
Goos shit, bro
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>>91075003
Does anyone have the greentext describing in detail how Mewberty Star would use all 6 hands to be a perfect lover? I forgot to save it.
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>>91082491
got you senpai
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