What went wrong?

is that a giant feather or is she just really tiny?

She's brown. The only successful brown princess wasn't a strong lead and is often associated with a blue genie.

>>91057369
It's a paddle.

>>91057325
3d "artist" still cant model anything out of the comfort zone.

>>91057325
They made her a lesbian

It should have been hand-drawn.

>>91057325
Not thicc enough.

Released movie about pacific islanders in thanksgiving and did it in a climate when people are getting riled up about PC stuff instead of just being indifferent.
Should have aimed for the summer when people are thinking about beaches and featured more of a lolsorandom animal companion that had a bigger role than the chicken.

Alternatively, drop all the humans and make it a movie about pacific islander animals.

Kids would have eaten that shit up. As it stands now, it's a 7-8/10 kids movie with some amazing parts, that's more loved by older audiences that can better appreciate the work that went into it.

>>91057325
As far as I know, quite a bit of it ended up being cut.
For example, her pet pig? He was meant to stick around for the whole movie but was quietly dropped for some reason. That's why he's around for so much at the beginning then just... vanishes from the movie.

>>91057466
So just because she didn't bone a far-older demigod she's a lesbian? Alright.

>>91057325
Too many attempts at going "look at how self-aware we are". Characters were strong, movie would have been excellent if more sincere.

When the fuck is it supposed to be set, anyway?
The dialogue is completely contemporary, but there's zero technology anywhere and the idea of unexplored islands in this day and age is ludicrous.

Also why did they suddenly have to leave the island when Moana managed to fix everything? Why uproot everything and leave your island behind because your ancestors did?

It's not like settling down had made them fat or stupid or anything, it was pointless.

>>91057325
ugly feet

>90% of the screen time is blue-greenish water and blue sky and occasional sand.

What indeed.

>>91057595
In ancient Polynesia. The dialogue is the same as literally every Disney move set in the past.

They didn't have to leave, and they weren't abandoning it completely. They were choosing to explore and expand, since now they could without worrying about Te Ka fucking them up.

>>91057505
This

>>91057650
>The dialogue is the same as literally every Disney move set in the past.
And that's a major drawback since in all the other recent Disney films, the era is immediately recognizable and you don't need to question it. In Moana, it could easily meant to be be present-day. You can't tell from the houses, the clothing or anything else what time period it's meant to be until you begin to notice the lack of modern things. And even then, it could just be set in the 18th century.

>>91057325
Bitch is barefoot the whole movie
Ugly feet
Shoulda got the tangled guy to work on those

>>91057325
Nothing, people just had insanely huge expectations after Frozen.

>>91057325
The pacing was really bad imo. The heart of life was a macguffin of the worst kind (why not show her being tempted to use it to maybe revive her grandmother). Also, everything in the ocean wants it but they only get attacked by one group of pirates. Oh, and what the ocean can do to help her on the quest is extremely inconsistent.
>>91057502
Also this. Could have given the shapeshifting demigod more than 5 forms.

The roadtrip nature of the movie made all the stuff feel episodic.

Villain with most characterization and ability to serve as foils to the protagonist was a David Bowie Crab that appeared for a total of 7 minutes or so and the actual 'bad guy' of the movie was a characterless evil lava blob until she wasn't.

>>91057898
There wasn't ever much real danger. the coconut guys were dispatched in minutes, never seen again. The giant crab was barely a threat, and then the final boss was a bit of a cop-out.

They focused on the wrong aspects of the film.

>>91057850
this, she has the same feet as Wreck-It Ralph, why the fuck doesn't disney make new CG models, why are they so fucking cheap

>>91057595
The movie was inspired by something called "the Long Pause". Early humans who were sailing the Pacific and settling onto new islands stopped their exploration for a millennium or two. So the movie seems to be placed around when Polynesians started voyaging again, something like a thousand years ago.

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>>91057325
I hate seeing stuff with ugly people in it. I still haven't see it because of that fat fuck.

>>91058620
He really was out of the ordinary ugly.
Also no romance in a disney princess film (obviously not with that piglike motherfucker but still)

What the fuck went wrong.

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>>91057466
Choosing chickens over men doesn't make you a lesbian.

>>91057325
wait
did something go wrong?
I had hopes for this movie, and been off /co/ for long

did it turn out shit?

also, i want to fuck that colour pallette

>>91059542
It was a good movie, the "what went wrong" is referring to it underperforming in the box office

>>91059542
No, nothing went wrong. The movie is easily Disney's best modern musical. This board is cancer

>>91059307
She still chose cock

>>91059628
>abloo bloo
It was boring.
The worst sin a movie can commit.

>>91057865
>huge expectations after Frozen.

Why? Frozen was just a glorified music video. Literally anything would have been better than Frozen, and in fact, Moana was.

Of course, unless you only rate success in terms of economical profits

>>91059075
He's supposed to be unattractive according to the mythology
>Actually wanting some shitty forced romance

Oh fuck off

>>91060227
>shitty forced romance

No, I wanted a well-written, heart-warming romance from an animation company that built their success on that exact product.

>>91060164
...you realize most animated disney movies are musicals, right?

>>91060119
t. ADHD

>>91060260
but she's a strong poc women that don't need no man

>>91057416
More like Disney focus-tested the shit out of the art style

>>91060333
Every good story needs a romance, no matter how small.
And I'm saying that as a strong independent woman.

>>91060365
>Every good story needs a romance
>I'm saying that as a strong independant woman
Kek

>>91060423
You're free to disagree.
But you're still wrong.

>>91058620
>>91059075
>people not cluing in that maui's ugliness is a plot point

>>91059602
>underperforming

only if you were expecting a global phenomenon hit, which disney was not because "polynesian-based musical" is not a universal seller. it made its money and got its acclaim.

>>91059628

correct

>>91060365
the story is about her and how strong she is and how she didn't even need maui and how she's just this super inspiring brown gril to other brown grils
And I'm saying that as a person that definitely spends too much time on tumblr

The open ocean is possibly one of the most boring settings imaginable

>>91060529
But very cheap to animate.

>>91060365
I'm gunna take a shot in the dark and say that you spend a lot of time on tumblr and you're overweight, if not obese.

>>91060597
Well there you go.

>>91060529
>Ocean is possibly one of the most boring settings imaginable

You don't go outside very often do you?

>>91060841
>You don't go outside very often do you?
>wherearewe.mp3.jpg

>>91060841
You mean do I go into the open ocean just to sit and stare at the horizon?
No. Never.

>>91061013
You should, it's quite uplifting

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>>91061038
No thanks, it's fucking terrifying.

gee that sure is a nice color palette, golly. I mean isn't it so great the artist decided to show and describe each individual hue? How would I have known there was color in the image otherwise!

>>91060841
>nothing but water in all directions
They're not even on a big ship full.of characters. Its just two of them on a raft surrounded by nothing for 70% of the film. Its fucking coma inducing

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>>91061076
Just what could be under the surface is kind of unsettling, but above is a different story

>>91061038
Then you my friend are incredibly basic.

>>91061210
I think capeshit is more your kind of movie man

>>91061224
But the movie isn't about braving the ocean depths, its about sailing the boring-ass surface.

>>91061256
>can't counter facts
>time for ad homs!
At least now everybody is allowed to call you a piece of cocksucking trash.

>>91061256
>I know, I'll accuse him of liking something I don't like. Then I don't have to argue!

>>91057595
Made up Polynesian setting.

Is not Hawaiian, is not Tahitian, is not Samoan, is not Fijian, is just.........polynesian derp

they are all dah same durp!

>>91061264
>But the movie isn't about braving the ocean depths
That is LITERALLY what Moana does to get the hook back.

>>91061324

And that's the best scene in the film.

Coincidence?

>>91059307
Look at those fuckin tree trunk limbs.

Zero sex appeal.

>>91061290
Top kek
>Can't counter facts
What facts? That the ocean is boring? Fuck the people on this board are a different level of stupid

>>91057325
They already did a Hawaii movie with Lilo and Stitch.

I actually really liked moana, the only bits I didn't like where a couple seconds like where she does the power walk during a song that's totally supposed to be her frozen moment. Where the squares her shoulders and does that else stride. It was cringe as fuck considering the rest of the movie was hers it really sucked they wedged that frozen pandering in.

I get it, frozen made mad bank for disney, but they should let their movies stand on their own legs. It showed weakness and lack of faith in their characterisation.

That being said it was like 5 seconds in an otherwise brilliant movie. I liked it a lot more than most recent disney shit zoo notwithstanding. (zootopia's only problem being they hyped the shit out of the waifu-able rabbit and she is adorable but then that voice, eeeh. Not what I was expecting after seeing all the silent webms of judy.)

>>91061324
No, they go into a horror realm in a mountain. They're not underwater

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And it was called "Vaiana" outside of the US because Moana is the name of one of the most famous hardcore porn actresses of all time.

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>>91061535
>They're not underwater

>>91061597
It's not actually under the ocean, its in a goddamn mountain. I don't know why they made it look that way.

>>91061653
The ocean is above them, so they are literally under the ocean.

>>91061653
But the mountain rises up out of the ocean
You see them rise up from the ocean after being blasted up by the geyser
You see fish come down from the ocean into tamatoa's lair
It's some kind of weird monster populated underworld beneath the ocean
I don't know if it's a Polynesian mythology thing or not but that's the only conclusion I can draw.

>>91061590
I heard it was more because someone else had already registered the trademark for the name "Moana" in Europe. I think it's only European countries that had her renamed as Vaiana.

>>91061653
I refuse to believe you're this fucking stupid

>>91061396
Not him, but the surface of the ocean is pretty boring, especially when you have 1 (one) group chasing you, that you fight off in 7 minutes. It forced focus on the characters who weren't that interesting.

>>91057325
Nice feet btw

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>>91057325
I feel like this would have made a much better summer beach movie than a Thanksgiving holiday movie.

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*Blocks your path*

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>>91061741
>I heard it was more because someone else had already registered the trademark
Yeah, you heard that because that's what Disney representatives told reporters. You think they're going to actually tell mainstream media that they changed the name because google turns up Moana Pozzi when you search for "Moana" in Europe?

No companies has registered "moana" as a trademark.

>>91057325
Black.

>>91057369
That's an oar, you dipstick.

>>91061842
Why does that say Dryad when it's obviously a Mandragora?

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>>91061391
>Zero sex appeal

>>91061931
Mandrakes are subterranean, you fucking layman.

>>91060841
>in a landlocked state with the rockies blocking off the nearest ocean
>somehow going outside will possitively affect how I feel about the ocean
Fucking coastalfags

>>91061950
That incredibly relevant Michael Jackson reference.

>>91061963
I didn't say Mandrake, now did I?

>>91062004
Yes you did.
Oh no, you're mentally retarded and think it's two different things,don't you?
>Mandragora the Latin equivalent of the English "mandrake"

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Can you name one (1) scene in a 3D Disney movie that looks better than this?

I'll wait.

>>91062050
What a shame it was 1½ minute long.

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>>91062065
Not gonna lie, those 20 seconds did more for me than Dreamworks' entire filmography, save maybe KFP.

>>91062000
>flyover trash thinking his opinion matters

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>>91062050

>>91062125
IT'S JUST CARDBOARD CUTOUTS, FRANK

>>91057325

Nothing wrong, it's just rather conventional. Moana might be for the current Disney 3D Rennaisance what Pocahontas was for the previous Disney Renaissance: the point people started to notice they were paying for the same movie.

Maybe if expectations for this movie and Zootopia had been reversed, and Disney took more of a risk with Taika Waititi's original screenplay, we might be remembering Moana more fondly as an offbeat hit like Emperor's New Groove, rather than a not-as-good-as-Frozen underperformer.

>>91061931
Because Seiken Densetsu

>>91062050

Lanterns.

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>>91062181
>Not as good as frozen

>>91061727
It's a monster realm. They could have made it look like anything. They don't dive into the water to get into it. They're walking around like it's land for God's sake. Its not actually indicative if what an ocean setting has to offer.
But fine, let's say it's an underwater sequence where there's just no swimming or diving.
It's still the best part of the movie because the rest of the movie is them on a raft in the middle nowhere because that's what the open ocean is. Its miles and miles of nothing. At least in a city there's buildings and signs to keep the imagery varied. All the island scenes are the same shades of green and brown, and the ocean is just fucking water.
Boring.

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>>91061391
Hmmm

>>91061234
You're right, he should be a trend setter like you and go to a shopping center to drink Starbucks and stare at his phone instead.

>>91062302
Ooh I like this Pacifica

>>91062322
>I know, I'll make a baseless accusations to slander him! Man I'm good at arguing!
Think of how many times you've heard the phrase long walks on the beach. Its the most basic deep thinking scene in the book.

>>91057325
Nothing. I thought her design was pretty bland at first, but she's really qt and sexy in motion

>>91061890
I'm in Europe and Moana Pozzi doesn't come up on at least the first 10 pages of Google search when looking for "Moana". Maybe she enjoys more popularity in her home country, but I had never heard of her before the whole Vaiana thing.

Zootopia was also renamed as Zootropolis in European countries because of copyright issues (a Danish zoo already owned the trademark for "zootopia").
I find it more likely that copyrights/trademarks/legal issues were the reason for Moana's name change in Europe, but people found the porn star explanation more interesting to talk about

>No companies has registered "moana" as a trademark.
https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#basic/1+1+1+1/50+50+50+50/moana
https://trademarks.justia.com/search?q=moana

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>>91062402
Very true

>>91060280

>being this dense

He's saying that Frozen was a shit film that only got popular thanks to a couple of its song's going viral.

Plenty of Disney's animated musicals are also good films in their own right.

>>91062322
>Implying he leaves his house

>>91061391
That's literally my favorite thing about her.

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>>91062765
>Moana will never arm wrestle you and win

>>91060365

>Every

As much as I recognize hyperbole, I still disagree, pretty vehemently.

>>91062126
>urbanite thinks he matters
large coastal cities are just glorified antfarms where everyone thinks the same or else they get the axe

Honestly I liked it more than both Tangled and Frozen.

It's Princess and the Frog all over again, everyone hates it except me. This director just can't catch a break.

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>>91062446
>that beautiful environment
So realistic

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>>91062050
This was the best song with the crab being a close second.

>>91062935
>Everyone hates it except me

Everyone likes this movie except for /co/
Even /tv/ loves it and they're basically /pol/

>>91057325

Because she doesn't live in a castle with servants or get recused by a super hot guy.

Why do you think Tangeled and Frozen took off while Brave, PatF and Moana failed? Women don't want to learn lessons about hard work and idependence, they want everything handed to them on a silver platter and people to constantly tell them how pretty and kind they are without actually being any of the 2.

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>>91063025
You're Welcome, We Know the Way, Shiny and I Am Moana are all god tier

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>>91063025

>mfw all the best songs were sung by the men

The chick songs were okay but Tamatoa and the rock actually had better ones. What the heck happened

>>91063111
>Tangled took off
Budget: $260 million
Box office: $591 million
>Moana failed
Budget: $150 million
Box office: $617 million

Uhhh?

>>91063088
No way. What the hell does /tv/ like about it?

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This was such a great twist. Rebellious princess who doesn't feel like she belongs, wants to go out and see the world while her parents advise against it, yadda yadda

Turns out it's in her fucking blood. And the rest of them too. She was the only one acting normally.

>>91062145
Stealing the scene from that Bible animated movie, Moses or something, where he parts the water and they walk through the bottom of the ocean seeing the outline of undersea animals and a whale.

40 minutes before Moana sets off. She only visits 2 islands that are extremely tiny before getting to the final boss.

>>91063371
They stole that from the 10 commandments

Also it makes sense here because the ocean is animate

>>91063210
What wouldn't they like about it? It's a really solid film

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHH2DFDcpH8

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>>91057369

>>91063288
And so they give up on a thriving community to sail randomly.
This must be why Polynesians got left behind in the dark ages.

>>91063799
Too bad they were stuck in the pacific which was and is empty. Had it been the atlantic they could've made a fucking mint.

>>91063799
They don't sail randomly you dumb fuck, they're called explorers for a reason

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>>91063877
>call yourself an explorer
>find 120 tiny identical islands

>>91063149

Disney can't write "muh strong independent women" without resorting to painfully generic "I just wanna be free" characters. So the songs they sing end up having the same problems.

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Ye olde generic "I don't want to conform to society so society needs to conform to me" Disney girl story.

>>91057369
>Is that just a giant feather

What the fuck

>>91063913
I'm curious, what else does the pacific have to offer?

>>91063980
Not only that but both of the songs I mentioned ALSO got the best visual treatment compared to uh
Moana is on a boat sailing

>>91064057
Well there's only so many subjects you can make a kids movie about, new ideas are very rare these days.

>>91064057

If society is wrong, then the answer is yes, it should.

Brown
Pacific Islander
Basically took all the notes of Frozen and tried to recreate it
no serious counter to her or demigod

>>91058620
You must not have any mirrors in your home for that same reason.

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This is me. Literally me. No other character can come close to relating to me like this. There is no way you can convince me this is not me. This character could not possibly be anymore me. It’s me, and nobody can convince me otherwise. If anyone approached me on the topic of this not possibly being me, then I immediately shut them down with overwhelming evidence that this character is me. This character is me, it is indisputable. Why anyone would try to argue that this character is not me is beyond me. If you held two pictures of me and this character side by side, you’d see no difference. I can safely look at this character every day and say “Yup, that’s me”. I can practically see this character every time I look at myself in the mirror. I go outside and people stop me to comment how similar I look and act to this character. I chuckle softly as I’m assured everyday this character is me in every way. I can smile each time I get out of bed every morning knowing that I’ve found my identity with this character and I know my place in this world. It’s really quite funny how similar this character is to me, it’s almost like we’re identical twins. When I first saw this character, I had an existential crisis. What if this character was the real me and I was the fictional being. What if this character actual became aware of my existence? Did this character have the ability to become self aware itself?

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>>91057847
You're dumb.

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>>91058620
Oh lord, I'm dying

>>91066144

I'm so sorry. Perhaps something can be done with surgery and medication?

>>91066078
Yeah, your mother really hates them

>>91057325
Two Disney movies in one Oscar year.
Otherwise, it was pretty good for a modern Disney movie. There are a lot of things that could've been improved but it was way better than Frozen.

so why didnt the sea just give the heart back? also why did it choose Moana? and why didnt the sea just drag Moana to the island under cover of water to prevent the lava thing? The sea was fucking OP.

>>91066298
It felt weird in the movie. After seeing it, though, it felt like the gods were more interested in creating legends rather than specifically solving problems. Like making Maui into a demigod instead of just saving his life.

>>91066069
>Brown
>Pacific Islander
Nothing wrong with this
>Basically took all the notes from Frozen and tried to recreate it
Nope, completely different movie, much better too
>No serious counter to her or demigod
Tamatoa, Te Ka, the Ocean, Moana herself

>>91066298
>so why didnt the sea just give the heart back?

Because then Maui and Humans would have learnt fucking nothing.

>>91066298
>>91066444

Te Ka can't touch water, the ocean couldn't return it itself. It chose her because she showed humanity when she was an infant and saved the turtle. Her humanity is what allows her to connect with Te Ka at the end. Neither Maui, the ocean or anyone else in her village could do it. The water splitting and letting her pass in the beginning is a direct parallel to the climax where she restores Te Ka's heart

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>>91057325
She never showed navel

>>91066670
The rest of her people did strike me as pretty inhumane desu senpai

>>91066670
And like >>91066512 said, Maui and Moana's people would be fucked. Maui would still be trapped on the Island and still be selfish and self centered; Moana would still be extremely arrogant and overconfident in her own abilities, even to the point where she puts other lives in danger for her own good. Her people would still be scared to venture out in the open ocean

WELL TAMATOA HASN'T ALWAYS BEEN THIS GLAM

>>91057325
Nothing?
I mean it was really good.

>>91058620
He gave mankind fire and pulled the islands out of the oceans. Show some respect

>>91057369
>feather
are you retarded?

>>91057325
The story is really linear, Moana just went from Point A to B with a little minions (the coconuts) then a mid-boss (Tamatoa) and ended in the redeemend "villian" arc.

Still Moana is the only Disney Princess that made something for his people (along with Mulan)

>>91060365
>Every good story needs a romance
kys

>>91057394
Who´s Tiana?

>Moana wasn't well received

Is this the narrative, now?

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Fuck the island, they should've just started the movie with polynesians on boats and Moana eventually going off on her own. That would've made the movie truly unique.

>>91060365

Tumblr shipper detected.

>>91057325
The entire premise of the movie was boring.

>>91062298
You only say this because you live in a world where almost everything has been discovered already. The excitement of the mystery is the same as current day space travel where we hope to find life or wonder what kind of planets are out there but with the added benefit of people could actually reach those islands in their lifetime.

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Kudos for having not only one but two villains who can actually kick ass for once. Tangled, Frozen and Zootopia's villains were fucking jokes.

>>91067799
>princess and the frog
>successful
ah, so that's why there's a renaissance of 2D animated movies from Disney

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>>91066298
It totally did and it totally didn't do crap.

>>91057595
same age as herakles fought the hydra and Marduk trapped tiamath.
In the age of mythology.

>>91057325
no one has a cupid bow

>>91063371
prince of egypt

>>91057325
CG

>>91067179
I WAS A DRAB LITTLE CRAB ONCE

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Ugly Male main character.

Disney's biggest adult fanbase is fujoshits, and Fujoshits want cute boys

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Anyone else weirded out that Disney is getting consistently better?

I remember seeing the poster for Chicken Little and thinking to myself, this is it. It's all over.

>>91062392
>going outside is boring and cliche

M'kay.

>>91069377
No, because if you had any hindsight, you'd realize that Disney always had peaks and valleys.

Look at the 70s and look at the 90s.

>>91060365
>And I'm saying that as a strong independent woman.
being an anonymous imageboard as it is, if you're using "I'm a woman" to back your claims you MUST post your tits or leave

>>91057325
The pig didn't drown when she went out to sea the first time. Would make sense. Justifies the parent's overprotectiveness and explain why pig gets dropped 1/4 of the way through.

>>91060333
Except she actually needed a man...

>>91066144
Go away Lasgna Cat.

>>91066444
Like always. Gods really give a shit.

>>91069565
Yeah I'm sure all the little girls watching and their parents would have loved it if the cute pig fucking drowned
>Justifies the parents overprotectivness
Her dad almost drowned trying to save his best friend who the Ocean killed. I think that justifies it enough

To me, money doesn't mean shit.

If a movie is plasse or mediocre, that's what it is.

The movie wasn't even nóminted for the Japanese Academy Awards and even if it did, Shin Godzilla would destroyed his ass.

>>91066444

That's how gods are in every myth, though. More than anything, they want to mess with humans because it entertains them.

>>91068182
But the sheep is meant to be a jew.

>>91069377
I wouldn't say consistently better. Moana is by far one of the best modern ones, but mediocre shit like Frozen and big hero 6 came right before it

>>91069914
I completely forgot about Big 6. What a misstep.

>>91064057

To be fair, Moana was a little more restrained about that aspect. The first time she tries to boat, she nearly dies. She's only able to pursue her passion when it becomes apparent that she needs to in order to save her people.

At the very least, the movie teaches that you should focus your passions in a way that benefits others, and not purely for your own gain. It's a hell of a lot better than Ariel or Anna.

>>91063913

How is that not impressive?

>>91069812
What?

>>91064057
She is conforming to society, though. She fully accepts her role as leader & protector of her people, it's just that she disagrees with her dad on how to do the job.

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>>91063195
NOOOOOO HOW CAN MY ARYAN GODDESS LOSE TO SOME BROWN BITCH NOOOOOOOO

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>>91070821
>Aryan ''''Goddess'''''
She looks generic as hell. Moana doesn't use the typical Disney sameface syndrome design and it actually works

>>91070075
Because real civilizations settle, grow, invent, innovate and flourish.
The ancient Polynesians, almost exactly like the Native Americans, would come to a new area, hunt the local wildlife to extinction, overfish and slash and burn until the soil could no longer be used. Then they'd pack up and move on to the next area/island.

Nomadic cultures were and are historically speaking the lowest possible shit-tier and by far most have never contributed nothing of note to humanity's history.

>>91057595
>The dialogue is completely contemporary

This has always been a problem in animated kids films.

>>91057325
It was good, but it lacked a traditional Disney villain. The plot was very Hero's Journey, which wouldn't have been as much as a problem for me if it hadn't come out months after Kubo.

>>91063111
Meanwhile Zootopia breaks $1b with a female cop lead.

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>disney makes brown girl empowerment film
>SJW's criticize it as being marketed and thus enabling culture appropriation

http://zennistrad.tumblr.com/post/158784637978/memecucker-memecucker-guillermoscandies

YOU JUST CANT WIN.

>>91071571
>Tumblr

Yeah I'm not clicking that, can already tell it's some white guilt bullshit

>>91071661
It's about a white girl dressing up as Moana

>>91071710
>>91071661
A white girl child

>>91071710
>>91071731

Weren't they also crying about that Maui costume with all the tattoos?

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>>91057325
>all these shades of brown
Boy, I would've used 3 tops and called it a day.
Guess I'll never be a good artist and stop being a lazy fuck.

>>91057325
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK5nv7TYC8w
Lack of relatable characters

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>>91071877
Sorry, wrong one

How does Moana make more money than Tangled and yet is considered a failure?

>>91057325

It was a meandering non-adventure with all the interesting and exciting parts seriously underplayed.

It SHOULD have been a movie about Moana following Maui around while he did all his cool shit like fighting monsters and dredging islands up from the bottom of the sea. Set Tamatoa as the primary antagonist, and have them race to find the Goddess of Death to see who can be the first one to steal her heart.

Boom. I just made the movie a hundred times better.

>>91071978
Only retards on here say that

>>91071978
Movie about white people: Appeals to everyone, flaws are overlooked at general appeal

Movie about brown people: Appeals to less than everyone, flaws are crusifid and movie is attacked for not being the second coming.

>>91071981
That sounds awful, never become a writer. If Maui had all his power he'd swat Tamatoa away like a fly

>>91072072
Maui "jobber" Shitshifter aint got no shine, my negroncx

>>91071882
>tamatoa
>not relatable

>>91071882
Please take your garbage Youtube videos somewhere else

>>91071882

>spends two minutes of the seven minute runtime doing a retarded bit with a ghost
>doesn't really even talk about the movie
>bitches that an escapist fantasy for little girls isn't targeted at him

What the fuck is this shit? What did I just watch?

>>91072190
You're a shiny guy.

>>91057325
nothing. It was a fine movie. I'm happy that Disney did not sexualize the teenage pacific island girl, despite how others may have expected.

>>91072072
>If Maui had all his power he'd swat Tamatoa away like a fly

You mean like when they fought while Maui was at full power and the most Maui could do was pull off one of Tamatoa's legs?

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>>91063754

>>91072283
A shitpost.

>>91059628
Wait it had 3 memorable songs.your welcome which was men cause the rock can't sing the random jibberish sailing song and shiny the best song. I wouldn't say its the best musical

>>91060365
Sure bud I bet you have a real feminine penis

>>91072353
Pretty sure he only showed his full power when he broke his hook hitting Te ka, and it caused a contained nuclear blast

>>91072283
>Actually watching that shit

>>91057325
Looks very good to me.

>>91057325
Maui isn't the protagonist.

>>91057325
potato nose

>>91062830
Why live?

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>one movie had no pressure or expectations on it and became a big hit on its own
>the other had high expectations and a lot of pressure and didn't quite live up to inflated expectations

I wonder...

>>91072474
>3 memorable songs

Compared to what? Meme it go is the only memorable song from Frozen and that's only because of how overplayed to hell it is. I don't even remember anything from Tangled

>>91057325
But I really liked Moana.

>>91073477
As did most people, anon

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>>91071549
>>91073464

so Moana is like Dinosaur, and Zootopia is like Emperor's New Groove.

the sad thing is, disney is going to chum sequels soon, at least three, for starters

>>91075371
Walt Disney has actually been pretty good at not doing sequels. Pixar on the other hand..

>>91075765

WiR 2 is confirmed, Frozen 2 too, and the butthurt furfag wants to make another Zootopia

water in this movie was something else, disney's render farms must be huge

hopefully maui ended up getting into te fiti's pants at some point

>>91057325
Marketing. The plot was confusing and the demigod comes off as an ugly, unlikeable asshole

>>91076698
>Unlikable asshole

Nah he's pretty likeable

>>91076698
Compare the frozen and moana trailers. It was a marketing disaster. It's like they just assumed people would go see a Disney movie because it was a Disney movie and so they didn't have to do a great marketing job.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLzfXQSPBOg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKFuXETZUsI

Both two and a half minutes.

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>>91076876
Both trailers focus on the character that caused the main conflict: Elsa and Maui. They're both a good mix of humor, action, and music, I don't see the issue.

>>91077140
Elsa looks awful compared to Moana to be honest

>>91076028
>Frozen 2

Please no

>>91075371
>dinosaur

never heard of it

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>>91077919
I remember liking it when i was a kid but I have no Idea how it holds up other than the effects, which are still great

>>91057595
>the idea of unexplored islands in this day and age is ludicrous.
Aren't there still some?

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>>91062402
This desu

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>>91071019
hahahahaha look at this bitch
>Mongols and huns rekt everything and unify the silk road under a single empire
>t*rks wrestle anatolia from the greeks and form several mditerranan spanning empires
>germcucks take over all of europe and form feudal kingdoms
>aztecs conquer their own empire
nomads are the best empire builders fag

>>91078256
Muh

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>>91078367
made for sex senpai

>>91078841
That sand detail is insane

>>91077864

This movie gave Disney insane amount of money, it's like the next Lion King. Sequels, shows,comics,specials, all this and much more awaits us for years.

>>91078335
And none of them are still around today. Germany is a joke and Turkey is an Islamic shithole.
Owned, bitch.

>>91077502
Maybe because someone photoshopped her out of her own scene that was composed for her, and into a completely different one made for another character.

>>91075371
>and Zootopia is like Emperor's New Groove

Yeah, if Zootopia sucked.

>>91080072

>He doesn't like the move that is "just right".

>>91080211
One of the worst moments in my life was when I got some glue stuck to my finger. I had to soak it in a bowl of lukewarm water, so I put on the Emperor's New Groove after hearing all the hype. I remember seeing it in the theater and hating it, but whatever, I was just a teenager then and couldn't appreciate the finer aspects.

5 minutes in and I was contemplating cutting my hand off. I was writhing and cringing in my spot, pleading with the movie to please not suck so hard. It did not comply.

>>91075371
More like "Zootopia" is "Lilo and Stitch" and "Moana" is "Treasure Planet".

>>91080279
What didn't you like about it? Because I've never once met a person who didn't like Emperors New Groove. I'm legit curious why you see it differently.

>>91080478
It's extremely annoying with all the characters being right in your face making dumb expressions throughout of the movie. Half of the movie looks like a Dreamworks poster. Despite being set in Cusco it doesn't feel anything like the Inca except the generic ooga booga gold temple and jungle aesthetic. But the biggest failing is that the dialogue is like 90% filibustering in an attempt to conjure up humor which never fucking works, unless you're Robin Williams. Compare with Moana whose few throw-away lines are way funnier than anything in Emperors.

I like that floating eyeball you get when you mirror the poster though.

>>91080478
He did actually enjoy it, he's just being a contrarian faggot because that's how you fit in around here.

>>91080520
You actually have genuine shit taste. Are you actually old enough to have seen this film?

>>91080540
You probably thought El Dorado was funny too, faggot.

How come critics mention the things I hated about Tangled and Frozen about Moana but don't when it comes to Tangled and Frozen?

>>91080401

I like to compare Zootopia to ENG because both movies went through very similar production processes and both of them was documented.

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>>91057898
>Also this. Could have given the shapeshifting demigod more than 5 forms.
the shape shifting affect reminded me of hitchhikers
now this guy could shape shift

Moana is in the pacific ocean, it's hot as shit there. Why was she wearing clothes at all?
The movie would have been better if she had been naked the entire time.

>>91067799
no idea

>>91057543
yeah what was that about?

>>91060260
Same

It looks like Tangled was the last Disney movie
Everything else is post modern Disney

>>91082410
>Tangled
>Not modern Disney

>>91067799
keyword, successful.

>>91082453
Exactly that
Not post modern Disney

I don't often get to say this about a Disney flick but I really do think the plot was too clever for most people.

They see a princess breaking tradition and think oh it's just this shit again. Except Moana is the only one actually following tradition, because her people are explorers.

>>91079341
I'm hopeful, 3D animated sequels are usually pretty good. Toy story 2 and 3, finding dory, kung fu panda 2, shrek 2 etc.

>W1
>W2
>BOOO

What did they mean by this

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>>91082616

..is this nigga serious?

>>91082600
That's not clever at all you troglodyte. The Motunui people had changed out of necessity, along comes Moana and convinces them to regress to an ancient cultural behaviour which they have NO ACTUAL NEED to reinstate.

They were doing great on the island, they had a flourishing society, a several generation long line of chieftains and everyone was perfectly happy. Then it all has to change because Moana wants it to, and it benefits her personal dreams and ideals.

>>91083568
You fucking idiot, packing up and moving when the island's no longer providing is the single most fundamental part of humanity's psyche. End your existence for forcing me to type out something so obvious.

>>91083568
Um, no. It changed because Maui did what he did a long time ago. If you notice something, Moana eventually started being okay with leading her people even if the sea still called her (which was for a mission to save the world, mind you). I mean, the island was literally dying when she left. And when Moana came back there's nothing explicitly saying that she convinced them to do it. Moreso that she probably showed that the option was open now and the chief probably reinstated it.

>>91084190
Holy shit you're retarded. The island was in no way close to "no longer providing". They lived there for several dozen generations, which directly contradicts your dumb moronic shitty argument. They had working agriculture and with Moana restoring the heart, everything went back to normal.

There was no need and you're a fucking dumbass.

>>91085004
Oh, so you didn't even watch the movie. Ignoring you now.

>>91085362
Good luck with that, tumblr.

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>>91080604