Iron Fist vs Shang Chi

>>90992404
Iron Fist

>>90992404
The Immortal Iron Fist vs Shang Chi the MASTER of kung fu

hmm

>>90992404
Yes, Shang Chi is.

>>90992404
Shang Chi is considered to have the edge but its always close. In a tournament fight I'd say Shang Chi wins 5 bouts vs. Iron Fists 3. In a fight-fight, where Iron Fist might USE the Iron Fist? Even money.

>>90992404
The one with the iron fists.

>>90992404
Shang is slightly better, but doesn't have magic powers.

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>>90992404

>>90993075
So how come Shang-Chi can't use chi powered punches? Where's his magic if he's such a master?

>>90993163
he's a master of kung fu, not a master of chi bullshit

>>90993163
The iron fist is a technique you can only master if you punch a dragon in the heart.

>>90993163

I think Shang Chi can do Chi powered feats. Just not the Iron Fist technique.

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>>90992404

Iron Fist got beat by *wolverine* in a fight. Not using his claws.

Now this is some bullshit right here, Logan is a skilled fighter but there is no way a martial artist of Danny's level should've had any trouble with him at all. And I don't think his bones or his healing could've played a significant factor in this particular fight. As I said, it was bs. But it happened.

( I choose to take both at their word, Wolvie really was giving it about a 6, Danny was giving it a 3 - because he knew that he'd walked over wolvie if he wanted to)

Shang Chi doesn't get used very much, but when he does he doesn't job. The very opposite, they tend to show that his skill level is to the point it elevates him out of street-level into the big leagues.

Shang-Chi is better. Danny is good but on par with the other Immortal Weapons. Shang-Chi is a step above.

>>90993323
And the decaying corpse of Old Steve Rogers managed to defeat Shang-Chi and his clone army. Favoritism tends to happen.

>>90993323
Reminder that Iron Fist has TWICE beaten Sabertooth without his powers. Once without even being able to see!

>>90993361
Shang-Chi is like Marvel's Karate Kid.

>>90993323
logan loses to squirrel girl next page

>>90994474
yeah but Bendis wrote this, so we'll ignore that like how he ignores everything else

>>90992404
Shang. He's the Master of Kung Fu. Danny isn't far behind him, though.

>>90993075
Your own scan reveals your failure. Namely, the part where Panther says "chi." Just the way he says it, with air quotes, says he doesn't give it credit, he's being dismissive. And as someone so steeped in science, it's not surprising. But the iron fist, and all the techniques that come with it, are still martial arts. Even if Danny hadn't defeated the dragon, knowing how to manipulate his own chi is a skill. The dragon just gave him more energy to work with. Shang Chi has shit on Danny Rand, period.

>>90993323
Wolverine doesn't get tired and any pain from Danny's non-Iron attacks would be healed in seconds. Wolverine has superhuman physical abilities, regardless of differences in fighting skill.

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>>90996016
I swear this guy is more of a Mary Sue than batman.

>>90996016
>plus a dash of bruce lee
REEEEEEEEEEEEE

What about the lesser knowns in the martial arts world like The Cat?

>>90996335
Shen Kuei is high tier - not an Iron Fist level but he's up there. He'd handily kick most people's asses
Has that motherfucker even been in anything since Cable/Deadpool?

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>>90995952
>Shang Chi has shit on Danny Rand, period.
Shang is more than a match for Danny. As far as "chi" goes, he probably understands it more, too. Danny specialises in one very specific aspect of focusing his chi, whereas Shang's knowledge is probably more wide-ranging.

>>90996184
Nowadays he 100% is

>>90996184
He hasn't been exposed to hell and back so he really really isn't. Also I liked how he explained his superhuman physical strength with basically "I dope myself".

>>90996016
Bruce Lee didn't use high kicks in a fight, he derided that specifically as only 'movie stuff'

>>90996759
Considering this is MU he probably did use em in a fight since literally every fighter in the universe seems o use em in one way or the other.

>>90994474
And? it's squirrel girl. The only wrong part is that Bendis failed at the joke by doing it on panel.

>>90992404
I love Danny but he's not even a very GOOD Iron Fist. Like we saw the rest were a lot better. Shang Chi vs the other Weapons? That's a fight. Shang v D isn't gonna be a victory for Danny. I bet Danny could beat up Spider-man tho for what that's worth.

Where do other martial artists like Elektra, Karnak, Black Panther come in? How about Daredevil himself?

>>90992691
He turned a guy in stone with his chi

well Shang Chi is master of kung fu

>>90996016
why would he add stuff from a Hollywood actor?

>>91000427
Into*

>>90993323
Anon, this is page is by Bendis.

>>91000327
Elektra is a psychic ninja
Karnak's inhuman bloodline makes him simply physically better than normal humans, lord knows how many decades he spent training as a monk
BP is Captain America tier thanks to the Heart-Shaped Herb

>>91000654
Elektra is psychic?

>>90992404
Only one of them is The Master of Kung-Fu.

>>90993198
Chi is used by Daredevil and batman, none can use the iron fist. It's a special thing. Shang stomps iron fist anyway

>>90996184
While pretty much true. It also works for BP because we don't have him going from punching gods in one book to dealing with crooks in funny costumes in another.

>>91002084
Yes.