Are the homeworld gems really evil for putting the interests

No. Putting the well being of your own people first isn't evil however there is a concern for ethics in doing so.

>>90986048
They see their subjects as tools to make themselves feel better. They're more like bratty teenage girls than benevolent rulers.

>>90986048
There{s an entire fucking Universe with millions of planets, if you choose to destroy those with sentient life you're a dick, yes.

Sort of. The way Peridot talked about this made it sound like it's rare that Homeworld is able to find as optimal a colony for creating new gems Earth, and they're supposedly not even from this galaxy. I guess there's something important about Earth that makes harvesting its mass more productive than taking it from the billions of uninhabited there probably are in this galaxy alone.

nazi thread?

>>90986495
I don't think so. I like to think that in the same way all gems were created for a distinct purpose so were the diamonds. By who or what I don't know but I do feel like all the diamonds were given a special purpose and their ideology is that they should stick by that purpose and never deviate from it.

>>90986723
There is no general anymore, passive-aggressive shitposter-kun.

>>90986641
Maybe the planet requires some form of pre existing life in order to make gems?

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>>90986723
General is banned

Was the new episode today? Or has the schedule shit itself?

>>90986944
They pushed it back due to shitty ratings from the last episode. They blame the week-by-week schedule and leaks, and are likely going to drop the episodes one after another now because of it.

Hopefully this next one has actual plot.

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>>90986048
They're evil from a certain point of view.

>>90987196
Except there's a double standard where one autist mod, despite the concerns of the others, has a hateboner for the show and forces a move to /trash/ for a hiatus length not enforced on any other show "just because".

>>90986048
It is literally supposed to be the "America First" zeitegist.

People talk about how Steven Universe is making kids gay and atheist and liberal but no one ever talks about how Homeworld is literally a representation of the liberal (Europoor liberal, not Burger liberal) post WWII status quo of lukewarm democracy, religion, and super capitalism.

>>90986896
Why?

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>>90987139
>>90987196
I was like you guys for the last 2 years. I couldn't stand Steven Universe, mainly because of his ugly nose and annoying voice.

Then I finally gave in and started watching. You know what? It's pretty good. I had "Stronger than You" stuck in my head for weeks.

>>90986048
They don't work for the interests of their race, though. They greedily exhaust their resources instead of finding ways to renew them, which means that eventually they will run out of those resources and start to fade out. The existence of Era 2 Peridots and Yellow Diamond's attitude towards Earth indicates this. The universe may be infinite, but gemkind's ability to traverse it might not be able to keep up with their needs.

I have a feeling part of the conclusion to the series will be Steven and the Crystal Gems showing homeworld the concept of agriculture that works in a cycle of reaping and sowing, if they can figure out how to revitalize and reuse kindergartens.

>>90987428
Something about /co/ generals are supposed to go to trash when no new content is coming out, as a way to keep them from just becoming unending threads of distilled fandom craziness

But it is said it is a rule that's only enforced on /sug/ cause it's hated by some mods or "that's the new MLP" or some other reason.

>>90986641
And yet they just want to blow it up instead of using those resources

>>90987485
Well resources aren't as important when gems don't really run out of energy unless completely shattered (and even then cluster shows you can find uses for them).

But it does have a strong traditional status quo vs the new and constantly changing radical ideas kinda thing going
Which I am interested in how it develops and how open/obvious they make it.

The Diamonds are Lawful Neutral.

>>90987516
Well it is a planet with rebel gems who kill a Diamond.
So it stopped be a professional matter and became a personal one.

>>90987560
Lawful Evil
Lawful Neutral would be more them following the rules and traditions because they're the laws they've always known.
Lawful Evil is them making the rules and not deviating too far from rules and traditions simply cause that's how they think or that's how they like it.

>>90986048
>Is it any worse than the "America First" zeitgeist?
You say that as if we approve of the America First bullshit

That shit murders other countries and cause their ghosts to come back to haunt us

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>>90986048
Reminder that the Crystal Gems are evil monkey-fucking space terrorists and murderers who have done nothing but sit around and cry and sing about their pathetic worthless lives after stealing Earth from Pink Diamond.

>>90987122
No way.

Really?

>>90987675
but at least they don't have space dog aids

>>90987675
>stealing Earth from Pink Diamond.

Shit man, don't humans have a say in this?

>>90987717
no, the next episode is going to be just as shit and pointless as all the ones from season 4 have been

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>>90986048
BTFO

>>90987741
Don't you mean from the whole show?
SU is pretty shit since Gem Glow.

>>90987747
It must be hard to post with that guy's dick in your mouth.

>>90987747
I think the problem is people want the show to be about space war action.
And it isn't, it's about day in the life of goofy magic kid.
And so people act like when the subplot they wanna focus isn't the focus, it is filler.
But this is not the main business the show was made for.
I mean yeah I love the homeword plots and would love if the show stayed more focused on that, but when it doesn't I'm not gonna act like it was always the main focus.
People just need to accept what they call filler is closer to what the show is meant to be about.

>>90987796
It must hard living as a SU fag.

>>90987617
Except the Gems are an artificial race. The Diamonds might just be following programming.

>>90987771
>He liked weird head Pearl from Laser Light Cannon

>>90987898
Still better
>chibi Pearl uwu
Cartoons are supposed to be ugly.

>>90987869
Rebecca Sugar, get off 4chan.
No one likes your shit show.

>>90987892
If that was the case we'd have evidence of there being a ruler above them or something implying it.

Unless they're gonna pull a Digimon and just make up a final final badguy.

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>>90987952
If you are a fan of E;R, you must hate SU.
That's the rule. Personally, E;R is my hero and I hope he squared up with Sugar one day.

>>90987952
>all those dislikes
Looks like the Crewniverse got really butt hurt.

>>90986048
Last time I checked, "America First" wasn't about hollowing out and killing off entire planets.

>>90987941
>Says a show is shit
>Hangs out in threads about said show
Either ya care about the show or you're sad enough to participate in threads in subjects you don't even like.
And I hope it's the former, cause the latter is just admitting your own pitifulness to take try to take something else down like some double edged sword.

>>90987952
This is the exact moment SU's fandom was vanquished once and for all.

>>90986048
It wasn't her turn, Anon just accept it

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>>90988038
>getting this salty
I'm just going to let my boy Milo finish you off.

>>90986048
I'm going to criticize Sugar on her own turf.
Watch me go.

>>90987991
I am a fan of E;R, and I like SU. Well season one at least. It is possible to find someone funny and thoughtful even if you don't agree with everything they say.

You don't need to wipe out all organic life in the universe to protect your people.

>>90987952
>>90987991
He's got a great voice, I wish he did more stuff, on other stuff.

>>90988092
Season One is shit.
Why do people pretend like SU was ever any good?

>>90987991
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>>90988042
fuck me i posted the wrong video. This is the one critizing the show not the fandom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j38aX4JxINQ&t=1546s

>Is it any worse than the "America First" zeitgeist?
No, and that's the whole problem.

>>90987883
Not really.

>>90988109
>pretend
I'm being genuine. It's called an opinion.

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>>90986048
When you think about it, we had it pretty good back then.

>>90988100
I wish he was writing for SU.
Tumblr would be forever triggered.

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>>90988068
>MUH NOSTALGIA

>SU CAN'T BE GOOD BECAUSE IT DIDN'T COME OUT WHEN I WAS A KID AND THE COMMERCIALS DON'T HAVE A CITY THEME ANYMORE

Was that argument seriously the best thing you had? Because that's pretty sad.

>>90988137
No, you're being contrarian.
SU was always shit. Just ask Milo Hoff; he's an expert on this stuff.

>>90987963
Infinity Train isn't even a show yet and I am already sick of its fandom.

>>90988181
Why?
It's better than SU's fandom.

>>90988030
You need to check again.

>>90988197
Has it produced good fanart yet?

>>90988171
Milo explains why SU's shit right here
>>90988140
>>90987963
>>90987747

>>90987747
Who?

>>90988171
CN City was god tier though; this new era is seriously lacking.

>>90988178
Contrarian? Thinking season one was good is a popular opinion, even within /co/ Even if it wasn't it doesn't mean I'm being contrarian.

>>90988220
Go to bed, Milo. CN is never going to magically turn into a carbon copy of what it was when you were 14 and it's time you put on your big boy pants and accepted that.

>>90988240
No one ever thought season one was good, especially /co/.
We hate SU.

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>>90988098
Synthetic-organic conflict is inevitable.

>>90988171
Seriously, when did Teen Titans become this sacred cow that's above criticism?

>>90988212
Yes and it is much better than SU's fan art will ever be.

>>90988305
Reality doesn't bend to your will buddy.

I really need to stop giving (You)s to obvious trolls.

>>90988334
Ask anyone on /co/; they'll say that SU has always been shit.

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>>90987869
No our issue is it lost it's charm. I stop caring about homeworld a season ago when it was clear the writers are just making it up as they go along. In fact some of my favorite episodes are filler. And that was because filler before season 3 was big adventures in temples and strange puzzle rooms, monsters attacking people and strange artifacts or plants with weird powers. It made episodes engaging and made you wonder how things would play out. Now it's just a mess of boring that's sprinkled with lore/plot points here and there. A good chuck of season 3 and almost all of 4 throws out an adventure formula and just has Steven drama, and town drama. Most episodes give nothing fun and many seem to be not even sure what story they are trying to tell. Many just seem like an excuse to remind us certain things happen or certain town folk are still around. Fans aren't mad at the lack of lore, it's that we have spent 20+ episodes of the last two seasons wanking away at Steven and the town. No one gives a shit about two restaurant families having a feud, no one cares what Lars thinks of local wrestling, it wasn't what the show was about for the first two seasons. People want to see shit like Steven and Connie go on more monster hunts, the gems problem solving some old forgotten tomb, or exploring foreign crash space ship with greys voiced by Chris Parnell. We want what sold so many fans in season one and that was light hearted adventures.

>>90988260
>shitting on CN City
This really is /co/mblr.

>>90988371
It never had any charm to begin with.
All these problems were there to begin with.
Fuck, why does this delusion persist that SU was ever a good show?
I bet you think SU was better than GF.

>>90988371
> I stop caring about homeworld a season ago when it was clear the writers are just making it up as they go along.
They've been making shit up since day one.
>but m-muh fusion
If people honestly thought Sugar planned this out, they're retarded and deserve every bit of disappointment they got.

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>>90988402
>I bet you think SU was better than GF.
I don't think that I'm just sharing that the narrative went worse after season 3 started up. That the excuse that people's dislike of these latter episodes is because the lack of progression is false.

Here's your (You) hope it keeps you happy for awhile.

>>90986048
So do people just use the SU threads to shit on the show?

>>90987869
Compare S1 episodes with the garbage that comes to "filler" now
Episodes are bland/ok at best/garbage , there are no great episodes on the new seasons.
The magic/charm is gone , just like happen to AT S4 and so.
The only interesting/fun stuff was Bismuth

>>90988447
>thinking I'm an SU fag
I've been saying all this shit since the show started, but now that SU is cool to hate you're jumping on the bandwagon?

Fuck off.

>>90988429
>>but m-muh fusion
>If people honestly thought Sugar planned this out
Central character is a fusion.
First fusion happens in episode 12.
What did he mean by this?

>>90987488

And yet those Star Vs. threads that a general in wverything but name are allowed to stay...

>>90988479
There was never magic though.
People were under the illusion that SU was good because they were let down by AT so they thought that SU would be different.
It wasn't; the fact that it was made by the person who led to AT's downfall in the first place should have been a big tip off.
SU was never good, it was just at the right place at the right time.

>>90988479
Season 3 had some great episodes.
Even Season 4 managed a few gems here and there.

>>90988536
There's no one I dislike more than someone who feels the need to validate their opinion by pretending it's an objective fact. It's not. Fuck off.

>>90988582
>being this butthurt
It's alright anon; the truth gets easier after a while.

>>90988615

Not him, but I'm just happy that Zuke is gone.

>>90988479
This is why I have no hope for OK KO.
Why get invested in it if it's just going to go to shit eventually?

>>90988448
there shouldn't be any su threads here in the first place since the general is banned to /trash/

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>>90988631
Yes, because the show was so much better off without her.
>Hilary Florido is still on SU
>People think this is a good thing

>>90988479
It's amazing that show that's not even 4 yet already has nostalgia fags.

No, it's natural for all races. Too bad they're gonna get get blindsided by the human race like every other inferior scum out there!

EARTH! EARTH! EARTH!

>>90986048
Can we agree that Gumball is the only good thing to come out of Nu-CN?

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>>90988447
>a show that was shit to begin with turned to shit
Complain about S3 all you want, the previous seasons weren't any better.

>>90986048
I'm going to pitch my idea for an SU reboot to CN.
Wish me luck.

>>90986048
>you will never strip Steven naked
>you will never have him run around town in his birthday suit
>you will never see Steven try in vain to hide his junk from everyone

>>90988926
Frybo.

>>90987957
>If that was the case we'd have evidence of there being a ruler above them or something implying it.

We haven't even seen fucking White Diamond in person yet and we're a handful of episodes away from the last of the planned episodes, so don't rule anything out.

It's entirely possible that Gems were originally designed as Von Neumann probes and the progenitor species that created them has long since gone extinct. Modern Gems could be the way they are because they're still following a ten thousand year old hard-coded routine of expansion, consumption, replication.

That would also explain why some Gems were willing -or even capable- of shit like open rebellion; the Diamonds are all running on an early OS that makes the strictly adhere to their original programming, while Gems like Rose Quartz have a version of the OS so many generations removed from the original program that it barely resembles the source code.

>>90986048
I am so glad people who hate this show keep talking about it instead of ignoring it.That way we see more SU every day on /co/! And we all want that right? If you didnt you wouldnt keep posting in it.

>>90986048

Who created the gems? And I mean the Diamondkin.

The Forerunners?

>>90988634
Nah , Ian know his shit
>>90988555
>Season 3 had some great episodes.
aBSOLUTE NOPE
>Season 4 managed a few gems here and there.
fucking nope
Boringfest after boringfest with some cringe in between

>>90989097
Not them but I liked Mr Greg and Alone at Sea.

>>90989168
you liked shit

>>90989097
Fuck off.S3 and S4 had good episodes.Just because your waifu didnt show hints of her past doesnt mean the entire seasons where shit.Yeah theres narrative problems and S4 is the worst season so far,but there are good episodes.

>>90989192
The show has definitely lost it's charm but those two episodes were good man.

Anyone have a link all of STEVEN UNIVERSE ONGOING #3?

(The Stevonnie/Kiki comic)

>>90989212
>waifufag
now i know why you think S3/4 had good episodes
>S4 is the worst season
True
> there are good episodes.
Objetive false

>>90989168
You like mediocrity but i can't blame you
You get some generic musical and the suddenly appearance of Jasper with a bland resolution.

>>90986048
I don't care what their alignment is, I just want the space niggers dead

>>90989236

He is a weeaboo, he would hate anything cartoony anyways, the biggest crime of SU is referencing Anime.

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>>90989236
Mr Greg was fun but Alone at Sea and the whole Malachite arc as a whole was just an example of the show's recent bad/lazy writing. I haven't watched season four (and don't plan on it unless I here news of things getting back on track) but I was surprised to hear that it's somehow worse than season three, since I found season three to be really disappointing .

>>90988371
This. After season 2 it came down with a bad case of "spongebob syndrome"

>>90989355
Because it's closed

>>90989710
no, it's moved to /trash/ and you know it

>>90989720
I don't know what that means.

>>90989733
that's because you're retarded, but it's okay because I wouldn't expect anything less from a SU fan

>>90989567
By itself I like Alone at Sea, but in context of the whole Malachite arc I see what you mean.

And yeah, I thought season 3 was a disappointment too, but season 4 is worse still.

>>90989769
Can you give me a link to this alleged /trash/ general thread where I can still post replies?

A Gem is a computronium device that stores and runs emulations of organic life-forms, projecting them into the world as 'hard light' holograms. The 'Gem Race' as we know it is the result of Gems coming to emulate a sapient species, Homo Sapiens Sapiens of Earth. The Sapience of the emulated organism overtakes the Gem unconscious firmware. 'The Gem Race' are fundamentally humans. They have simplified their own emulations in many ways, disposing of much of their irrelevant life support biology (to the extent that Rose Quartz had to 're-discover' and possibly re-implement it), and possibly even much of their original organic brains, but they still clearly show their origins in their modern psyche, which is unmistakably human and even shows an overwhelming preference for the hominid form.

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>>90989863
Thanks.

Why did my link get deleted? Is it against the rules to link to trash now?

>>90989947
I dunno, but I saw it in time.

>>90989567
I thought that was really good though. Chille Tid was one of the strongest episodes of season 2 which does not have a shortage competing episodes. The existence of that fusion in the first place set up most of what is important about Jasper besides her being a flat character jarhead. What was wrong with Malachite? The Ewoks?

>>90987738
Why would monkeys have any say in the matter

>>90986048
So yeah, no the Diamonds are completely reprehensible, they'd rather make a bunch of what are essentially clones and exterminate roughly seven million species and put the survivors on display in an ant farm. And when it doesn't work out smoothly Yellow would rather blow it up by meatgrindering and welding together all of the gems produced on earth out of spite. That's completely beyond buying into market protectionism or vilifying foreign influences.

>>90989835
>>>/trash/steven