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ITT: comic book deaths you're still mad about

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ITT: comic book deaths you're still mad about
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who dat
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>>90962978
a dead cat
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>>90962908
kek
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>>90962908
Is she ok now?
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>>90963037
You're asking if a comic book character that died has been brought back to life? Who are you kidding anon? She's been dead for over 10 years with no signs of her death ever being retconned
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>>90962908
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and to say i adored the sentinel series
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>>90963018


>a dead cat

Here's another one.
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>>90963253
i gotta admit, i never cared about avengers academy or mettle as a character, but this seemed like a cheep shot
i never heard anyone talk about any character from that book other than him, and it was clear out of all the kids in that book he was by far the favorite
if i did care about this character, i would feel like this was a giant slap in the face and i completely understand why people hate this
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>>90962908
dark beast's

bendis a shit
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>>90962908
It was a good death and she got to be Prime's first victim.
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>>90963445
Another bad thing about it was that it just reinforced the idea that you shouldn't give a fuck about new Avengers or X-Men because they're constantly introduced just to be killed off for shock value.
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>>90962908
Something like 2/3rds of the supporting cast of Invincible gets killed. (no I'm not posting reference pics, oh gods no.) Just because Robot has to be written as a villain, so the writers kill pretty much everyone trying to make sure that ALL the readers loose SOMEone they like.
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>>90963498
>killed literally by accident by a retarded man-child
>good death

Anon pls
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>>90963445
I think his death felt the worst out of all of them, because his was the first and was the tone-setting one.

Like 'hey folks, these characters that you liked? they're gonna fed into the meat grinder for no reason. No catharsis, no resolution, just meaningless death.'

Of course that was the intent of the whole series, but still.
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Say what you want about Identity Crisis, but he didn't deserve this.
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>>90963518
what happened to her cutie friends though
I care
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>>90962908
speaking of
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>comic book resurrections you're still mad about.
Everything about bringing back Bucky was a bad idea. Keeping him around actually managed to be worse.
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>>90962908
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>>90962908
I am not really mad that Bill got killed. I am mad that Reed Richards never got hated on or his ass stomped for making this abomination the way Stark did. This shit was a Red Skull wet dream but Richards gets away with it.
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>>90963810
He's not dead, anon. He is an idea now. And ideas live forever.
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>>90962908
didn't she also just have a kid or something?
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>>90962908
Not giving that much credit to injustice itself, but this particular moment pissed me off as well as made me laugh when it came out, and it still does
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oh no not the last female saiyan
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>>90963810
is that really how he died?
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>>90963950
At least it wasn't "that" death. You know the one.

This is an easy second though. Pissed me off too.
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>>90964015
Ah heck now I have to post it
This could easily be an Injustice thread but I'll stop here
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>>90963810
If this sticks i'll never forgive Marvel.

At least he died in the arms of his true love with her name on his lips.
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>>90964100
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>>90962908
pretty much every one that's occurred since the late 80's, Comic Book Writers for the most part are incapable of writing death with any competence
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>>90963950
Hal Jordan killing Guy Gardner pissed me off more, especially now that he is somehow a Green Lantern again in Injustice 2.
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>>90962908
>>90963125
shit, does she even exist anymore? that was like two reboots ago.

Does Prime even exist anymore?
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>>90964228
Especially cause Gardner was a pretty cool guy on Injustice
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>>90964101
>arms of his true love
but thats not Jean even though Emma is the better girl
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>>90964100
He got million dollar baby'd
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>>90963355
He was the one character I was rooting for.
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>>90963445
>>90963518
>>90963586
What really gets me is that he was killed in what was clearly a naked cash-in on the Hunger Games hype.

He was sacrificed for a quick buck.
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>>90963809
you are literally in a minority.
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>>90962908
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>>90964100
Fuck you, I laughed.
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>>90964333
>Hal, don't have sudden bursts of rage.
>I'll show you sudden bursts of rage!
Why did he go Captain Hero again?
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> It's a BKV is a hack and cheaply kills off a character for shock value episode
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>>90964100
Is this really the reason he's not in Injustice 2? lol
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>>90962908
I know he is replaced, I know its not quite a comic book, but I still get triggered to infinity when reading this panel and all of the kindly ones, really.
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>>90963929
You realize the irony of that statement, right?

In Alan Moore's V for Vendetta, he deliberately wrote the eponymous V as a deranged terrorist fueled by romanticized ideals from reading Alexander Dumas' The Count of Monte Christo.

The Wachoskis are the ones who completely rewrote V into a vigilante with morals and scruples.
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Actually I'm mad because Ian didn't pull the goddamn trigger because fans got pissy
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>>90964100
oh come the fuck on
This would not kill a person. People are not that fragile we don't have bones made of fucking glass.
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>>90967170
Wrong, bucko.
People die from stupid shit like this all the time.
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>>90967066
even in the book it was made painfully clear that the only was to save britain was to burn it down and rebuild. it was too far gone for anyone to fix it from the inside.
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>>90963799
He came back tho, and not just the shitty New 52 version
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>>90963253


Fuck Hopeless to death with a chainsaw.

Fuck Marvel.

I have not spent one penny on Marvel books since this shit. They're fucking cancer, I wish they'd just fold so there's more room for actual innovation in the market.
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>>90967187
LIsten here kid.
Ive seen people survive injuries like that in the comic on their necks and they came out fine.
The human body can be a tough machine. We aren't as fragile as cartoons make us seem....
Atleast not everyone is. And someone as bulky as nightwing certainly shouldn't have weak bone density like that where it would break from a fall
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>>90967202
Not according to Alan Moore it's not. The whole story is about Moore's thesis on government vs. anarchy.

He contends that there are two extremes: Fascism and Anarchy. All governments will eventually adopt Fascism, and only a return to pure anarchy can reset the pendulum.

V may burn down Great Britain, but Alan Moore states that V is not any kind of hero or figure to be admired. He is a terrorist, first and foremost.
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I usually don't give a shit about deaths in a comic book, but fuck am I still bitter about kid Zeus just straight up fucking dying.
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>>90964100
This one is so bad it loops around to being awesome.
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>>90967268
>LIsten here kid.
I swear to god, every dipshit moron on 4chan starts their response with this same shit
>Ive seen people survive injuries like that in the comic on their necks and they came out fine.
Oh well I guess your anecdotal evidence cancels everything out. I've never worn a seatbelt and nothing bad has ever happened to me! There are literal actual cases of this shit, easily google-able. It happens, and just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. You sound like an idiot anti-vaccer - "well I'm not vaccinated and I'm fine, so polio probably just isn't real!"
here's some reading you absolute moron

http://scienceblogs.com/whitecoatunderground/2009/03/18/a-simple-bump-on-the-head-can/

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/man-died-after-hitting-head-12111578

http://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/cobb-man-hits-head-pavement-and-dies-after-punch-police-say/We0bF5UAHUUDRtrwRw5zuI/

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tragic-shop-worker-21-dies-9383131

etc etc
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>>90967268
>calling someone else kid with grammar like that

Facts are that people die from stupid shit all the time, and people survive stupid shit all the time. It's a fucking dice roll at best, and the strength you tout is a small modifier and nothing more.
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>>90967268
>someone as bulky as nightwing certainly shouldn't have weak bone density like that
this is some fucking /fit/-tier bro science shit right hurr
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>>90963253
>>90963355

avengers arena was so fucking petty, if it was filled to the brim with no name characters like the braddock academy kids, that would be one thing. but up an coming characters getting killed? thats just bullshit. and the fact that theyve just been tossed to the game makes it fucking worse. why isnt arcade in a rape dungeon for this shit? its one thing if its regular heroes, but fucking kids?
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>>90963862

thats not even a stark footnote. if that was really pym there they would have had his ass arrested for this
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>>90967223
Kon was resurrected in Legion of 3 Worlds, if anyone is curious.
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>>90967826
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>http://scienceblogs.com/whitecoatunderground/2009/03/18/a-simple-bump-on-the-head-can/
Can, but not always the case.
If that were true then ever Soccer player would drop dead on the field.
>http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/man-died-after-hitting-head-12111578
Again, this anecdotal as like the rest of your links.
>>90967625
>>90967668
Oh yeah man definitely. A simple fall and bump on the head can kill a man instantly!
That why pic related died on the spot after getting slammed full force by a 300 lb man right on his spine.
Absolutely tragic! A true testament to how fragile the human body is!
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>>90967865
>Can, but not always the case
WELL FUCKING EXACTLY YOU MORON
it CAN kill you, which is why nightwing died that way and it might not which is why your idiot friend didn't. Holy god damn, can you actually not understand that not all injuries are equal and that totally minor and random elements like nanometers difference in where the injury is can make the difference between life and death?
Sometimes people die from this, sometimes they don't, nightwing was one of the unlucky ones.
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>>90967312
can you provide citation please
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>>90962908
Is that princess Diana? I didn't realise she is /co/ related.
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>>90964341
pretty much
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>>90967972
lol you stupid fuck I already acknowledged that not everyone is not that fragile.
You were the one spitting out these links as if they were absolute.
Get fucked
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>>90967268
>listen here kid
stopped reading there
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>>90967005
This, the gatekeepers did nothing wrong and didn't deserve this
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>>90966713
It's amusing how common it is, such that I was expecting a completely different, often raged on, death under that spoiler.
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>>90968032
literally looking at your post that says
>Oh come the fuck on. This would not kill a person. People are not that fragile we don't have bones made of fucking glass
then your post that says
>oh yeah I guess it actually can but like, not always
You are a sad, ridiculous little man.
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>>90967704
It's funny. Marvel has it in their heads that the only way to make new characters successful is to make them legacies, but they wholesale murdered a bunch of characters with good potential for shock value that contributed nothing solid.
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>>90967865
>>90968032
You really should be a king hit statistic.
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>>90964100
>the most athletically gifted member of the batfamily
>hit by a stick
>trips on a rock
>breaks neck on another rock

Why not have Damian be a shit and put his guard down and Dick throws himself as a shield to save him?
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>>90967268
Does anyone take anything serious where OP starts his rant with
>listen here kid
It's like a pasta. It's literally starting a statement with "hey dont listen to me"
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>>90968137
because it was meant to be a random senseless tragedy, not the selfless martyrdom of a cool guy. I'm not defending it, shit moment, but that's clearly what they were going for
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>>90968069
You're just mad I blew you the fuck out
You'll get over it. or maybe you wind up paralyzed because you fell down or some threw a ball at your head the wrong way
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>>90968261
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>>90968261
>You're just mad I blew you
Anon, I think you're gay and don't know it.
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>>90968292
back to >>>reddit with you, hotpocket....
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>>90968310
Oh, nice comeback, Summer 2016.
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>>90963799
He died a hero and eventually came back, the problem is now, he is off in the limbo along Bart.
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>>90968310
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>>90968330
>posting ugly female celebrities because you are whipped intellectually and have met your match
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>>90968349
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>>90968349
>and have met your match
That's stating that you're equal to him intellectually.
You're actively shitting on yourself.
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>>90968349
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>>90967187
One of the reasons I always thought 'there's no chance Batman hasn't accidentally killed someone at some point' especially when playing the Arkham games and knocking out fools on hard concrete by the dozen
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>>90968364
>>90968356

Spare me, I can practically hear the tears hitting your keyboard...
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>>90968349
>you're a retard and you've finally met your equal!
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does metaphorical death of a character count?

Because I'm still very upset.
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>>90968391
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>>90968391
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>>90967005
No idea what this is at all but it is very sad with no context.
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>>90968405
Isn't it past your bed time, little guy?
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>>90968349
well, you're not wrong
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>>90968427
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>>90968349
>>90968391
>>90968427
>he keeps responding
it's an obvious troll at this point. it just has to be. I refuse to believe otherwise.
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>>90968435
>star vs
Yeah I think were done here...
The door is right over there
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>>90968450
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>>90968445
Yeah, it's what people do on 4chan. You get blown out so you go full only pretending mode.
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>>90968473
I like him, he silly.
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what the fuck is happening in this thread
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Seems like it's always one of three things:
>character dies because "no one" cares about them and stays in limbo forever, never getting a new story
>character dies for shock value and a cheap example of how strong or evil another character is
>character dies but is too popular to stay dead and instantly comes back in a giant asspull

Has there ever been a GOOD death scene? Where a character does something heroic or sacrifices themselves and stays dead, so it mattered? Or they simply made it to old age and dies peacefully in their own home with their legacy intact or some shit?
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>>90968473
>anon argues that people can die if they bump their head or fall on their neck
>me:"well heres proof that isn't true in most cases"
>brittney spears frowning.gif and passive aggressive posts
Yeah he sure told me
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>>90968483
Mega virgin thinks he's winning an argument not realized he's not talking to the same anon.
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>>90967131

Wait they just killed Antoine
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>>90968483
Someone said some stupid shit, anons proved him wrong, he got assblasted, they starting posting gifs, shit devolves, things fall apart, the centre cannot hold, entropy is inevitable and we live in a callous and empty universe
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>>90968400
Fuck you the Maker was awesome. The tragedy was how they ended that arc
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>>90967170
"They called me Mr. Glass"
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>>90968505
>mega virgin
Im pretty sure I lost that title when I increased the circumference of your mum's anus the other night
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>>90968503
alright anon, I'm going to give this one more chance
>isn't true in most cases
no one said it was true in most, or even all cases, just that it happens sometimes, even very rarely, and that nightwing happened to be one of those times.
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>>90968521
My mother is dead, you jackass.
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>>90968512
that's what I meant
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>>90963417

First of all, how dare you
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>>90968527
So?
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>>90968503
>(You):well heres proof that isn't true in most cases"
>anon: Bro it happens sometimes, your post admitted as much
>(You): I KNOW WHAT I SAID YOU LOST FUCK YOU AND YOUR TEARS I'M NOT CRYING YOU ARE REEEEEEE!
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>>90968522
>no one said it was true in most
Of course, so why did he assume I said that all people can fall down and die in my initial posts when I can't find anything of the sort...
My victory of this back and forth was achieved long ago. I am the cat, and he is the mouse. Im just playing with my food at this point
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>>90968527
Well your dad then
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>>90968491
Ultimate Spider-Man had a good death.
Key word being "had", past tense.
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>>90963253
>>90963355

still livid
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>>90968541
Oh, we got fucking tough guy here. McEdgelord thinks talking about my dead mother is some great comeback. Well, guess what. At least I'm not some sort of sperglord that jerks off to comics at night because he can't be bothered to get out of the house and blames it on the rest of the world because "it's so against him." Fucking shitfaced little cunt. Your mom should have fucking swallowed that night.
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well this tread derailed.
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>>90968572
First of all that wasn't even me...
Secondly, calm down its just a prank bro
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I want to lick pantha's feet
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>>90968584
To you it was a god damn prank. To me, she was my mother, you shit. Have someone talk about your loved one that way and see how you feel. Fuck you, just fuck you.
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>>90968584
Only retards think you can pretend to be retarded, rockanon.
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>>90968572
lmao u mad
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>>90968603
>XD
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Why is he still alive?
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>>90968596
...and we're right back on track.

>>90968600
>Have someone talk about your loved one that way and see how you feel
what are you, fucking 5? grow up and get thicker skin.
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>>90968626
you go down on your dad with that mouth? shame on you!
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>>90968621
>Why is he still alive?

So that he can suffer.
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>>90968572
>>90968600
Your mom sounds hot, anon.
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thanks /co/, I almost forgot it's summer.
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>>90963253

You know the worst part of this isn't even that he died. Dude sacrifices himself to save his girl? Decent enough way to go out as any. Still a shitty story but what really pissed me off came later.

Dude's grave doesn't even have grass on it yet and Hopeless is already setting up the girl he died for with his own OC DONUT, WHOM she has no chemistry with AT ALL but they're the best couple ever because Madam Masque said so I guess.
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Let this part of the thread be a reminder. Things don't get terrible in Summer. They're always terrible
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>>90968670
But its spring....?
What the fuck
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>>90968529
my negro
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>>90967005
I'm mad but it wasn't a bad death. It fits the atmosphere of desperation perfectly.
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>>90967704
well he's been in the rape dimension in a way recently.
But it also means Marvel sees him as a fun character made for everybody.
Kinda Dr Light and TTgo.
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>>90968798
Is this an official released comic. Because it looks like some shitty webcomic
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>>90968833

Welcome to Marvel
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>>90968844
Goddamnit
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>>90968833
It is indeed an officially licensed Marvel product.
We live in dark times.
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>>90968864
we also got issues of the shittiest early mainstream 3D modeling programs once too. This isn't any particularly special to these times, art-wise anyway. The specific shitty subject is particular, but shitty writing from writers who can't write and shove their out of place shit into their comics isn't.
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>>90968864

the worst part is I don't see it ending. Not any time especially soon anyways.
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>>90968891

Honestly I hate how smugly self aware they've become. They're like someones dad trying to be cool by spouting memes or whatever hip lingo. They expect us to take their stories seriously but then turn around and self mock them before their over because that's what fans do right?
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>>90967704

It's fucking miserable isn't it? It's just so crudely cynical and unceremonious with how it dumps some cute kid characters into the trash for the cheapest of shocks.
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>>90967268

>Cartoons
>Making people seem fragile

People die from falls or punches all the time.
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>>90968891
Marvel still employs Deodato and a few other people who very obviously just paint over models sometimes. Shit just never ends.
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>>90968503

>well heres proof that isn't true in most cases
>most
>When you admit you're wrong, but are too stupid to realise it
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>>90968621
>Because a bullet to the head doesn't mean an automatic kill
>You never see him die, maybe he flinched and shot his nose or something
>because snyders a hack and fraud and forgot this story existed
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>>90969022
I can't find an image of it right now, but I was talking about the absolutely abysmal Warmachine comic from some time back, which was literally just the 3D models. The modern stuff isn't really any better, but it's at least more of an effort and looks marginally better. I wouldn't accept either, though.

It's a confluence of trying to cut corners and jump on the next big thing, no matter how retarded it looks. Someone sees this webcomic style was getting attention and decides they can use it as a PR stunt while also not needing to pay good artists to do it.
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>>90963253
The whole thing seemed like a big fuck you to Christos Gage, Avengers Academy writer
Out of the pre-existing characters dragged into the game, it was the ones from Academy who got the most shit
Take Juston. The kid was in limbo since the Sentinel mini in 2003. Then Gage brought him back in Academy because he was a big fan. And as soon as Academy was cancelled, instead of letting the poor kid back to limbo, they just killed him like a dog.
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>>90968833
It is official and it's be the creator of Bee and Puppycat. She obviously didn't give a shit because her work is actually good if it's something she likes.
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>>90969096
>creator of Bee and Puppycat
>her work is actually good if it's something she likes

so she hates Bee and Puppycat?
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>>90969123
I didn't say she was a good writer. I also doubt she wrote that comic book.
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>>90963862
That's a david-sized pic.
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>>90968945
I think some editor at marvel just hates kid characters or something, because they love shoving them into the grave.
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this always gets me
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>>90964010
yeah

Then Emma used her powers to make everyone think he was alive. Blackbolt blasted the illusion, "killing" him. It was only widely revealed to the X-Men and Inhumans that Cyclops was dead the whole time at the end of IvX
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>>90969064
I still feel bad for him.
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>>90969130
Nice deflection.
Truth is she's shit all the time. You can't dig anything "good" she did.You worship a shitty internet hack. Faggot.
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>>90963355
>His Entire series is about the Redemption of his Sentinel
>Every single interaction shows his Sentinel has become self-aware and sentient.
>Gets mind controlled and kills him instantly and is used as a prop the entire run

If I ever met Hopeless, He'd suffer a fist based head injury.
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>>90969572
like a lamb led into the slaughterhouse.
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Legionnaires in the last run of Legion during N52

Red Racer recently on the multiverse arc of Superman/Action comics
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>>90967066

You know, maybe I'm an idiot, but I never really saw this. Even in the comics he went out of his way to avoid civilian casualties in most cases, and I don't remember any cases of heroism from that movie that weren't in the original comic (though I don't remember much from that movie at all).

Though maybe that's because I was much more interested in all of the non-titular characters in the comic and just didn't pay attention to V's character.
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Still miss him. He was a great character, bummer he just got the generic hero death.
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Cold shot him in the back and everyone fellates Cold for it.
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>>90969932
Wow that's pretty damn cold-hearted of him
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>>90963526
Kid Thor and his wife being brutally killed was horrible.
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>>90963810
Do you know what makes this fucking rage inducing? There were so many ways to actually do this shit, and the writers went for the easiest one. It's honestly so shit and it's why I am honestly not sad to see Lemire go.

My only hope is that in the remnants of Battleword a body almost forgotten by time arises to return to his home
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>>90963652
What? Wasn't the boomerang that killed Tim's dad the zombie that's punching through his own son? The way you're phrasing it makes it sound like the son is the one that killed Tim's dad.
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>>90969055
U.S. War Machine by Chuck " The Fuck" Austen.
oh yeah speaking of fucking characters over, the way he screwed Skin of Generation X over caused fans of the series collective B.P.s reach Krakatoa levels.
And wouldn't you know the bastard was on Steven Universe.
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>>90967223
Didn't the shitty new 52 version die by flying into a wall to commit suicide?
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what a shitty way to die
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>>90969918
He's got an evil LMD duplicate running around now
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>>90969731
That's why I'm dropping Doctor Strange when "Kill Hopeless, Devour Hopeless" takes over in May.
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>>90964228
>mfw his armless corpse falls down to earth in next page
For some reason, the fact he's wearing Hawaii-shirt makes it sadder
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>>90969096
If you're working for Marvel, just for a quick paycheck, then it makes sense you don't put the effort in. Because Disney/Marvel owns everything you make anyways.
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>>90963810
fuck terrigen, fuck inhumans.
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>>90963253
>>90963355
The part that gets my blood boiling is that Arena was advertised as "Think we have too many teen heroes? Well this book will kill them off!" to a few years later we're being flooded with legacy heroes exactly like their predecessors.

Like, Marvel just killed off original and unique ideas and now we have black girl Iron Man, Russian Wasp, and fucking Moon Girl.
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>>90970036
Generally everyone hates Identity Crisis for the character assassinations and deaths. Owen was the only good thing to come out of it.
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Like, I know New X-Men by Craig and Yost is loved, but honestly, it came off as so mean spirited. Especially when you read the interviews and they go "Yeah, it's a shame, because we wanted to kill even more characters. Oh, btw, how awesome is X-23?" That's when it clicked why the run makes me so mad. It's all about fucking X-23. How she's tortured, how hurt she feels, how every other character has to kiss her boo boos. Wind Dancer depowered? Hellion gets to date X-23 now. Mercury captured? Now she gets to become closer friends to X-23! Oh no! Nasty Surge kissed Hellion! Now X-23 is cutting herself in the bathroom!

I've never seen a book that's crushingly depressing that's solely there to support the writer's pet. Well, except maybe Avengers Arena with how much it loves Cammi.
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>>90970132
He was probably still alive until he hit the ground face first while Hal watched.
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Practically every Elseworlds story with Billy dying.

Looking at you, Kingdom Come and Injustice, if it counts.
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>>90968292
>>90968330
>>90968356
>>90968378
>>90968393
>>90968411
Could you leave and never come back?
Thanks
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>>90970333
Don't forget that stupid one where it's the post-apocalypse and he and his buddies rape and murder Wonder Woman.
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>>90970383
Fucking Distant Fires.
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Wanna know the sad part? Ever since Crisis on Infinite Crisis, fan favorites that are not A or B list get killed to hype up some threat that lose credibility within years if not months.
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>>90970333
That one in Injustice was ugly but Billy was portrayed as too dumb to live in that series so the impact was a blunted just a bit.
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>>90970114
an evil LMD with a bitchin' Kamen Rider scarf
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>>90970399
Yeah I can agree with that. Injustice was just one big slaughterhouse in comic form anyway.
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>>90970395
The general rule is, if there is a death in comics, and the characters won't shut up about it, that character will come back.

If a character is flat out forgotten and never mentioned again, they're dead.

Gwen Stacy was bound for this big return because they couldn't stop bringing her up yearly. Jean Grey as well that they fucking named the school after her! Even Alex from the Runaways came back cause they kept talking about him, and Gert will too if they keep mentioning her in a future Runaways book. Cassie Lang was gonna come back cause Scott Lang was getting a push and Cassie was so pivotal to his character.

Mettle? Juston? Wallflower? Tag? All those characters? They're fucking dead. Nobody cares to bring them up anymore in the story universe, so they won't come back. Even Elixir doesn't bring up his dead girlfriend. The fact that Wolverine goes back to the destroyed Xavier school and QQ is making a "Sentinels strike here" sign shows that nobody cared about all the dead X-Kids anymore.

Even living characters are forgotten! Rhodey's flesh and blood family didn't even show up to his own fucking funeral because the black Marvel heroes had to have big moments there!
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>>90970433
Has he been up to anything lately?
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>>90970494
I wish this wasn't true.
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>>90963799
it's like this picture says "there were too many soopamans, just look at me, I had to do something"
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>>90968527
Yeah. She was dead when I found her and fucked her. That made it even better.
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>>90968621
Because Snyder wanted a gay two-face story ignoring the fact that it's bullshit that he surged putting a gin to his head and pulling the trigger
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What's worse: Cheap death, stuck in limbo or character assassination?
Or brought back from limbo, get character assassination that leads to cheap death, but come back later and that shit characterization sticks?
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>>90968600
The weird thing anon?
There's a chance that to you, I'm your Father.
Or any one of a hundred guys to be honest. Your Mom, She was a helluva gal, but more people went down on her than the Titanic.
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>>90971389
Max Lord?
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>>90968349
>Admit the person you were arguing with is right
>"I won that argument"

Holy shit you are fucking retarded. I almost wish you were a name fag so that we could all laugh at you harder.
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>>90970042
Hello there, I'm Mr. Austen's personal assistant. I have to inform you that, by invoking Mr. Austen's name, you have summoned me from the abyss and I must now storytime Mr. Austen's entire run of "Uncanny X-Men," largely derided by comic fans and raders as one of the worst set of stories every told in the history of narratives, but largely viewed by Mr. Austen as one of his finest works.

For thread relevance - the death of Skin, of Generation X fame, by means of literally being nailed to a cross by the religious zealot Purifiers, is often considered one of the worst character assassinations in X-Men lore.

Shall we begin?
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>>90971527
DO IT
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>>90971527
How is his death character assassination? Is it possible you don't know what that phrase means?
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>>90962908
It doesn't really matter when it comes to Marvel or Dc anyway
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>>90971598
Because it was literally the assassination of a character?

Maybe murder is a better, more general term.
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>>90971516
mmmm Ah goodmorning losers what on the agenda for today?
>admit the person you were arguing with is right
I have done nothing of the sort. Please expose this admission...
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>>90969025
>>90968987

Except I never said once that it NEVER happens at all....
You kids are so dumb its adorable
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>>90971808
Oh boy, son, that's not what that term means... It means the assassination of someone's character, like, their personality. If you made Superman into a huge dickwad that would be character assassination. Just killing someone off isn't it at all.
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>>90967131
Fuck.
Antoine is the only one I liked from SatAM. The Walrus can go suck a dick
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>>90968798
This is fucking shit. I hate how you cant even criticise how bad it is without being called homophobic.

What I think is actually homophobic is treat sexual identity like some fashion label.

"Me? Oh I'm bi, you?"
"I was asexual but now I'm a lesbian, I think I said this before"
"Hey guys, great ACCEPTANCE. Pat yourselves on the back"

Fuck off.
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>>90967826
>>90967840
Crazy Thom was so much fun.
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>>90971389
Cheap death. It effects how you read them from now on. Whenever you read their stories you always remember how it ends for them
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>>90972013
What bothers me so much is how this stance is always first before actual storytelling. Like the world can't breathe unless they affirm everything.
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>>90972142
If you wanna focus on a character sexuality, make it relevant to their stories, otherwise leave it out.

All these little asides, these little pats on the back Marvel keeps doing for beign good little virtue signallers, are pathetic
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>>90969453
Fun fact

This is much, much more excusable than most comic book deaths because Wagner didn't actually know how much people loved judge Giant. So when his son came back he even got a lot of cool moments in the Necropolis event and a lot of later references to him instead of just being forgotten.
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>>90963929
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>>90970230
They probably got it from DC with how they like to cleanse their Teen/Legacy heroes
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>give me your hand
>okay
literally falling for the oldest trick in the book

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUL5w91dzbo
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>>90972217
Yeah, I'm really more mad that it happened than at Wagner in particular. If I remember correctly, he said he did it to show that Judges can die without warning, unceremoniously, which makes sense. I just wish it didn't happen to Giant, especially since the block wars arc is really the only one I've read so far that I don't care for. It's good to know Giant Jr. gets some recognition, though it tarnishes Giant's legacy by having him break one of the golden Judge rules.
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>>90970299
Why wouldn't his ring just fly to his other hand?
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>>90964100
who threw the stick?
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>Killed off panel
Remender's biggest sin
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>>90971690

See >>90963125
If it's a character nobody cares about, they stay dead.
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>>90974562
Either that or they're a Vell.

I'm surprise those Genis fags didn't post yet.
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>>90967312
Terrorism, in my experience, is a word people ascribe to an action in order to completely devalue any of the motivations behind it. So when a piss-poor farmer is being shelled hourly, that's not terrorism, but when he straps a tank of fertalizer to his back and charges a government building: terrorism.

What lead him to that action becomes unimportant, because we can just wash it away. "He's a terrorist." Done deal. Literally may as well say "he's a bad guy", "he's a villain". Because his actions aren't taken in any sort of context, but rather in a sort of sterilized reactionary way. He scares people, so he's a terrorist. By the same definition, every horror filmmaker, politician, internet prankster is a terrorist, because they make people scared.
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>>90974970

Believe it or not, terrorism does have an actual definition besides "bad guy". It denotes someone who takes actions to terrorize a populace, usually its civilians in particular, on behalf of a political ideology, and usually on behalf of an organization.

A disgruntled office worker who shoots thirty people from a bell tower because Ted from accounting won't turn down his music is not a terrorist. Someone who sabotages a power plant, harming no one but causing a 28-hour blackout across half the continent, in order to coerce the government into changing abortion laws is a terrorist.
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These two
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>>90962908
Abomination
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>>90971948
Gee Paw, I know what the term "character assassination" means in the context you use it, but that term doesn't really make any sense. What you refer to is an example of a character being written "out of character." I was giving an example of the assassination of a character and noted as such.

Apologies for using a phrase that - golly gee willikers - has multiple contextual connotations that are confusing to people who are so used to jumping down other's throats on the internet, it won't happen again.
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Everyone who died in the Ultimatum wave. Like, goddamnit Loeb.
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>>90970395
DC hasn't done this in a while though. In fact, I can't remember any character deaths in recent events (unless you count FUCKING EVERYBODY in flashpoint)
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>>90974223
Damian
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>>90968137
Because this is explicitly Damien's fault, but also Dick's fault. Dick let Damien take kill shots at him even out of practice, confident he would dodge. Damien, being a shot, took those kill shots.

This would have been 100% fine if after getting hit by the rod, one of the 500 mooks in the scene got to him.
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>>90963810
So why didn't Emma died?
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>>90972668
Maybe he lost his will to live after seeing Hal go full retard.
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>>90974301
The worst part was that he was getting fans excited about his return.
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>>90977043
Some mutants just go sterile instead of turning into a giant skin rash apparently.
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>>90975246
That's Garth Ennis. You should have expected that when you opened up the book.
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>>90971389
>Or brought back from limbo, get character assassination that leads to cheap death, but come back later and that shit characterization sticks?
When has this happened?
Because damn, that sounds petty.
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>>90962908
She never came back did she?
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>>90968798

i'm a chick who's all for acceptance, but when they put this shit out right after Jessica Jones when Patsy was evolving into a BAMF character was just beyond insulting. Fuck the cutesy style and get some actual artwork into it.
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>>90972419
>>90972217
>>90969453

Do like how the Dredd comics show that the Judges do bite it by the hundreds probably daily encountering all the shit that goes down in MC1 like being swarmed by a pack of zombies suddenly or just getting hit with a death ray some guy made for fun.
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>>90964257
>Does Prime even exist anymore?

Hope not.
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>>90970671
I swear I saw him on the cover of some book recently. With Titania? I think that was it.
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>>90975246
Not a death but MM's origin in that book still kills me.
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>>90968157
>random senseless tragedy

Not dramatic. Pointless. Stupid. Audience doesn't want "random senseless tragedy"; it's not a foreign film, it's a goddam super-hero comic.
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>>90968798
This is just adorable.
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>>90977777
Checked!
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>>90975357
Character assassination never means "when a character (as in a fictional person) is killed"; it means when someone's reputation is maliciously or unjustly slagged; defamed or slandered. It doesn't have "multiple contextual connotations" you dim cunt.
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The worst.
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>>90977777
Aw come on, Prime's cool.
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>>90978581
Why?
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>>90978776
It was like killing Lois Lane, plus, it was done cos the writer didn't like her cos she was Stan's pet character.
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>>90978776
Because it made Peter blue.

She was his funny valentine.
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>>90967170
People can die from tripping and hitting the concrete
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>>90970270
But isn't Owen a loser pedophile that prey on teenage girls. He is also a mass murder that kills woman and children to appease his rotting corpse of a father.
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>>90963862
Goliath is honestly a dumbass if he thought he was in the same leagues as Thor. He deserved the lightning through the chest.
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>>90963253
>>90963355
I came to this thread just to make sure these were posted. That it happened so soon makes me happy.
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>>90966713
>>90968056

I love a lot of his work, but he really, really suffers from "Independent Movie Ending" syndrome.

Ya know the alternate ending of Clerks that has the lead just randomly shot and killed for no reason?

All his books end on a note like that, and it's not fun.
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>>90963950
>>90964015
>>90964100
Why do you guys take Injustice too seriously? It's like a Treehouse of Horrors episode.
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>>90969064

What pissed me off is when I see people defend this shit with comments like "Well it's not like he was being used" or "you should be glad he's not in limbo"

Id much prefer limbo to getting killed of stupidly
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>>90978581
Oh get the fuck over it! Gwen Stacy's death was referenced so god damn much that she appears every other year alive. Fuck, you got not one, but TWO versions of her currently holding their own books!

Fucking Gwen and Jean fags prevent other characters who died to stay dead cause they can't stop obsessing over girls who died over 40 years ago!

Picture fucking related, we're never getting Wallflower back and she died much more tragically than those other two.
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>>90979489
None of those anons, here.

Because it's something normies always go on and on about. They played the video game at their friend's and now you always see "Injustice is the only cool superman I've ever seen."

Shit's very very annoying.
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>>90978842
lois lane, gwen stacy, mary jane, aunt may should all be killed off for good
they are boring drama devices and any good story with any of those characters has already been told
comics would be better off with all of them gone forever
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>>90971389

A and C. Limbo is depressing but fine. If a character just sort of walks off into the sunset then you can enjoy their stories without being reminded of the the shit to come.
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caeira, she and hulk where good together.
and now hulk is fucking dead also and replaced with a lame asian version
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>>90979530

It's hard to be an X-fan sometimes. They're in such a weird spot.

the old old fans are never going to let go so any new characters are constantly stuck in a cycle of BEING THE NEXT GENERATION-Getting killed off for shock- and then the survivors are all forgotten about whenever the next writer introduces his own OCs and starts the process anew.


And it makes me LIVID that someone like Kitty can be considered a full X-men but the NXM or GENX or whomever are JUST STUDENTS despite routinely putting up with worse.
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>>90978842
Gwen was very unpopular character at the time. It wasn't just because the writers wanted her out. It's a lot more like Jason Todd's death. She was also pretty boring so who cares?
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>>90979821

See this is what bugs me. Gwen wasn't beloved, fuck the O5 X-men nearly got their book cancelled till they replaced pretty much the whole team. But somehow these characters are the ones getting pushed the hardest
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>>90979821
>Gwen was very unpopular character at the time
[citation needed]
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>>90966943
It's the reason he's not in Injustice 1.
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>>90979870
>Gwen
>Not being pushed

Alternate universe or not, that is simply not true. Its not like the 05 are similar to their silver age counterparts either.
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>>90979597
It angers me to death and back becasue it's legitimately the only source people go to to justify their Harley Queen wankery. I hope to god I never again have to see another fucking post anywhere saying how fucking awesome Harley Queen is while using Injustice panels or I'm gonna pop a fucking vein.
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>>90970671
Last I saw he and Taskmaster were trying to get buttloads of money off of Hill.
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Why do people read Marvel anyway.
From what I can tell, they burn more bridges than build,
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>>90980120
Bro I feel you lol

You don't know how painful it is (you seem like you might actually) to follow actual comic artists on instagram so i can be inspired when I wake up only to be bombarded with comic meme accounts in the trending feed. All bullshit facts and out of context panels and stolen covers with comments even more asinine than the posts.

Injustice panels are particular offenders too because of just how out there the story is.
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>>90980299
But those few are quite strong.
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>>90968769
not same anon, but you are both my niggas.
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>>90979530
>Fuck, you got not one, but TWO versions of her currently holding their own books!

I'm pretty sure there's only one alt-universe Gwen Stacy running around.
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>>90979616
You must love the current Marvel cartoons. You know, the ones that pretend there is no Bruce Banner?
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>>90967865
I agree with your assertations, but posting Fedor is cheating
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>>90968503
>/co/mblr
you forget where you are
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>>90979870
That's kind of the effect of time. That age of Marvel feels almost legendary at this point, so revisiting those points are to rekindle nostalgia. Now, granted, Gwen's popularity of late is mainly cause of Emma Stone playing her in the Amazing Spider-Man, but O5 mainly happened cause people have such a die hard boner for Jean Grey that she was voted into TWO video games (MUA2 and Marvel Heroes)

It's most likely because those characters are associated with famous deaths, and I'm thrown Jason Todd in there as well.

Though granted, a lot of these other deaths stick because they were never famous deaths.
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>>90967131
So what happened here? Is it just that he died or is it because MS just SD'd on him out of nowhere?
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>>90963810
Came to post this. Marvel doesn't deserve Cyclops.
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>>90963253
psh....nothin perssonel,kid...
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>>90979779
hey bud, mind to share the sauce for those in your pic?
Saved a few but google search doesn't give me anything
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>>90977840
Yeah it was an evil Illuminati ongoing.
Shitty, cancelled after seven issues, and immediately forgotten forever.
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I like to imagine that Stan had nothing to do with it.

"Take Kirby's soul? What kind of backstabbing monster do you think I am? I'd kill 20 Millars just to get him back."
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>>90983112
that would be a nice twist
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>>90963946
Kind of, Her Redstar were raising baby wildebeest but baby wildebeest got killed by prime like two panels latter.
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>>90971844
>This is ridiculous, it can't happen to a Mr. Lifts.
>What? Yeah it can happen.
>No, no in most cases it won't happen.
>Yeah, so, it can happen.
>AUTISTIC SCREECHING

There's no coming back from that mate. Reply all you fuckin' like, it's not going to delet the stupid shit you've already said.
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>>90963809
He shouldn't have outlasted Brubaker. They have him, and they have no good ideas to use him with.

The Man on the Wall is the dumbest fucking shit.
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>>90962908
I'm mildly mad that they killed Robin, but I'm livid that they tried to hide behind a poll. They should have had the guts to admit that they wanted him dead and not try to blame fans for the resulting fallout.
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>>90983314
...but fans didn't like Jason and they set up a poll to see just how much they hated his guts. He legitimately lost. None of it was rigged.

You can't really be bad at them for it.
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>>90972196
>If you wanna focus on a character sexuality, make it relevant to their stories, otherwise leave it out.

True. You wanna know who's probably the best written gay character ever?

Dexter, 7th season.
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>>90968491
>Has there ever been a GOOD death scene?

Skurge, standing alone at Gjallerbru.
Aunt May in ASM 400.
Karate Kid at the end of the Legion of Super-Villains arc.
Barry Allen in CoIE?
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>>90983428
>None of it was rigged

>Years later, O'Neil would admit hundreds of votes in the "Jason Dies" line came from a single person, adding a large degree of uncertainty to the honesty of results regarding a poll designed to determine the character's popularity. "I heard it was one guy, who programmed his computer to dial the thumbs down number every ninety seconds for eight hours, who made the difference", O'Neil said in a Newsarama interview conducted alongside writer Judd Winick during the "Under The Hood" arc
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>>90983523
Mostly just definitive ones. Mar-Vell and Hitman come to mind.

...and I'm still mad that Aunt May DIDN'T go out in that fantastic death scene.
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>>90983574
>I heard it was one guy
Sounds legit. And do you know who it was?
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>>90964100
When i read in damian's bio that he killed Nightwing i was thinking on something more than 'oops!'
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>>90970292
X-Men in general has just been bouncing from bloodbath to bloodbath for so long I honestly don't know how anyone can care anymore.
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>>90964166
Getting that mileage in in the new pic
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>>90975479
So even though its just in Injustice is this why people hate damian?
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>>90983612
>...and I'm still mad that Aunt May DIDN'T go out in that fantastic death scene.

There is nothing worse about the Clone Saga than the ending, which brought Norman and Aunt May back, killed Ben, and erased the Spider-Baby.

I honestly don't think I've bought a Spider-Man since.
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>>90983848
People hate Damian for a lot of reasons, mostly due to how he was first introduced (lots of Mary Sue flavoring) and how much an entitled prick he always is.

Personally I like him, but the backlash makes a lot of sense.
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>>90982633
Those are WaitingfortheT's comics. He has a tumblr so it's easy to look for the rest of his stuff in there.
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>>90983885
Literally named the things I love about the kid lol.

He is a mary sue but the batverse is especially full of those. And most of them are women. I'll take a mary robin all day.

and before anyone says it fuck the term gary stu.
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>>90968491
Captain Marvel in Kingdom Come
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>>90970230
Fucking this.

How many characters introduced post 90's are still around and kicking anyway? They want comics to flourish but just rehash the same characters everyone's read about 50 times already.
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>>90974223
damian they were having an arguement and damian got mad at him cuz dick was telling he was acting like a child an started to walk away from him so damian threw his stick at him and didnt mean to kill him
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>>90975246
Could've been worse. They went out like 4 issues before the end so it's not like it soured a big chunk of the series.

The whole ending is fucking stupid though.
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>>90963037
>is she okay meow?
Jesus anon....
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>>90979779
I still think the 80's X-men "uniform" was the best one. Do they still have uniforms? I know at one point they copied the whole black leather look the movies did.
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>>90984645
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>>90970292
Craig and Yost's New X-Men was a Snuff film in disguise
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>>90968527
In the end I gave her the only compliment a woman can ever truly deserve, 'well worth the dig'.
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Yes, it was retconned. No, she didn't die in the uniform. Still furious.
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>>90962908
That and the other ones from that sequence (as well as what was done to Risk) irritated me, not out of any particular love for the characters but because they came off as needlessly meanspirited and more about shock value than anything. I remember some interviews, Johns was really adamant about having characters get killed because that was the only way he could show how powerful Superboy-Prime was or something in his mind. Pantha only got it because John's originally wanted to use Argent in that spot but got vetoed by Eddie Berganza due to Argent being his waifu.

Gehenna's death in Blackest Night is another one. Again, needlessly cruel and meanspirited and then just to drive it home Black Lantern Doctor Light basically wants to rape her corpse.

I have no clue if Johns has gotten any better but his propensity for shock value bullshit and needless gore is a huge reason I absolutely do not like him as a writer.

For Marvel, Rikki Barnes' death is complete and utter bullshit.
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>>90967704
Red Raven's death is the easiest example I can point to if I ever want a solid example of how much a talentless hack Dennis Hopeless is.
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>>90983242
Here's what a actually said....
>>90967268
>The human body can be a tough machine. We aren't as fragile as cartoons make us seem....
>Atleast not everyone is.
>Atleast not everyone is.
This was literally my second post...

You can go now, you're embarrassing yourself lol
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>>90986502
>Gehenna's death in Blackest Night is another one. Again, needlessly cruel and meanspirited and then just to drive it home Black Lantern Doctor Light basically wants to rape her corpse.

It was a solid reason to drop any Firestorm from that point onwards.
Like, zombie mind control or not, who the fuck wants to read about Ronnie after he did that?
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>>90986502

>vetoed by Eddie Berganza due to Argent being his waifu.
>Eddie Berganza
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>>90986502
>(as well as what was done to Risk)

Risk constantly loosing his limbs is the only reason anyone remembers him. Kinda hilarious, honestly.
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>>90986981
*losing
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>>90986981
That's what I mean though. I'm not a fan of characters being turned into a joke unless being a joke was part of their existence from the start.
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>>90983112
>I'd kill 20 Millars just to get him back
Wait, you'd need an incentive?
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>>90987343

why you hating Dazzler and Cyclops
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>>90983574
My vote was real enough
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>>90967170
brainstem's the worst possible place to get hit AT ALL anonymous. it's pretty much the human body's "off" button.
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>>90979779
It's not so much that, but after a few decades certain characters become iconic to certain titles. Avengers without Thor & Vision? Looks like a two-bit knock-off. Justice League without Wonder Woman and a Green Lantern or two? Weird. That's not counting the lead characters like Captain America & Superman. Sometimes replacement characters stick, sometimes they don't.

All Marvel teams have it rough like this. So many of the characters are considered iconic to the teams, that the only way to get them OFF those teams is to kill them off for a maybe later resurrection once they've written themselves into a corner because the writers just aren't that good anymore, or do some sleight-of-hand (surprise! we're married and I'm taking you halfway around the world! let's fuck!) idiocy because, again, the writers suck.

Gradual change is fine, everyone expects that. But when you decide to give a title that had several iconic characters a full make-over to try and lure in new readers/boost sales, you're just gonna lose the older readers and THEIR sales.

I haven't read an X-book since sometime shortly after the first Onslaught mega X-over and well before the Institute got expanded. Not out of being pissed that the heroes "died" (publicity stunt senses were tingling for obvious reasons), but because the stories...just weren't good.

And from everything I've seen over the years, I stopped just in time. New character intros became ham-fisted, stories got sloppy, characters and art-in-general were uninspiring. And no-one is keeping the writers in check. One writer decides that they dislike a character, so they're gonna write them as a jackass with the morals of an iguana on PCP. Whoops! Another writer likes that character, so retcon! I'm sick of this character, so I'm de-powering them. Whoops! Another writer likes them, so new powers it is! Meh, those powers are lame, here's some bad-ass powers that everyone loves because movies.

It's just a flat out three-ring circus.
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>>90986766
I don't see how a being a muscular non meta human makes one immune to death by point rock to the back of the neck
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>>90982633

Waiting for the T. A tumblr webcomic that more or less started out becuase of the exact kind shit this thread is talking about. He did a good bit of Arena stuff.

Seems a decent fellow
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>>90987584
>Avengers without Thor & Vision? Looks like a two-bit knock-off.
It's funny you say that when Wolverine and Spider-Man are considered Avengers more than them for a while.
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>>90986502
>I have no clue if Johns has gotten any better but his propensity for shock value bullshit and needless gore is a huge reason I absolutely do not like him as a writer.
I completely understand that. The guy has no consistent tone. You can read his JSA run that starts cute, and then fucking nazis are killing kids in the park!
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>>90987969
on-again/off-again.
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>>90987584

Well that's the whole problem in itself. Characters are used because they're iconic but other characters never get the chance to become Iconic because they're never used and only the 30 somethings favorites get any heavy marketing push.

Take Cassandra Cain as an example. She carried a solo title for years but never was allowed to be used in any cartoons or video games or whatever because Babs was the iconic one despite being in a wheelchair for 2 fucking decades at the time. Cass could have become iconic easy and was already had a strong fanbase, she just needed that extra marketing push. It's not that the changes aren't sticking it's that some higher up gets a bee in his bonet about his own nostalgia and changes things to match his status quo.

New characters will never catch on if they're never given the chance too. Wolverine Cyclops and the rest didn't' become mega popular over night it took years of stories to build up their fanbases and new characters will be lucky if they're given 5 years to find a niche.

Comic readers are so busy trying to preserve their own nostalgia that they're robbing new generations of theirs
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>>90983574
Nothing was in the rules that said that this was not possible and nothing stopped the people who didn't want Jason dead from doing the same. I know more than a few people who made multiple calls at the time.
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>>90986502
Sauce on the skeleton? No idea who he is.
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>>90969572
for fuck sake looks like not making good characthers for marvel is a lesson all the writhers have to learn
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>>90979152
that wasnt suposed to be a death battle also bill tougth he was the real thor and not just a killer clone
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>>90967865
And then Fedor fucking wins that fight, man is not human. He might just be a shaved bear.
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>>90988184

Zombie Firestorm killing off girl firestorm because fuck blackest knight.

What really pissed me off was killing off Kendra Hawkgirl and when they revived her at the end LOL PSYCHE SHE'S SHYERA KENDRAS DEAD STILL
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>>90977911
I never said it was good, or wanted, just that was what they were going for
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>>90968680
i like anacronism as a characther but you are rigth the "romance" felt like a slap to the face
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>>90970292
>mean spirited
anon we already talked abouth this in a tread like 2 months ago being was the point of the book becaus eshow the brutality and despair of mutants lives
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>>90988046
The sad thing about Cass is that she is the easiest character to cast. You can save on voice actors for animation because she is mostly mute. Her uniform is all black, making her a cinch to animate or make a costume for. You can get the best young ass kicker from Asia you can find to play her in movies since her speaking shit English would almost be mandatory. Get her from China and you open up that pain in the ass multi billion dollar market.

Instead, they take Barbara, strip her of decades of progression, take away her distinction of being the biggest truly disabled hero in DC comics and turn her into a god damned hipster. They couldn't even give her an exoskeleton or power armor like Kingdom Come Batman to make her halfway interesting. She was fucking Oracle. She could have gotten freaking cyborg parts if she wanted to.
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>>90968491
The Red Bee
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>>90982434
Antoine jumped Metal Sonic that was about to kill Sally's brother (who's the new King Acorn) and Robotnik had it self destruct.

Robotnik was so fucking happy that he finally killed one of the Freedom Fighters, he calls the mission a complete success.
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>>90988871
Barbara could have gotten cyborg parts, but this is Barbara Gordon. Barbara could have gotten parts FROM Cyborg.
If this had happened in the 60s she'd have been back within the year.
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>>90986766
>This was literally my second post...
I wonder what you said in your first post that might have caused these people to think you were suggesting no one could die like that???????
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>>90968621
Hopefully that was just the meta death of the Two Face that was scarred by an Irish ginger woman in his home after watching his wife get murdered or whatever the fuck
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>>90983257
The Man on the Wall IDEA is awesome, but they've done next to nothing with it. Just a few side missions with bad art and lots of arguing. All those old ideas, waiting to be checked on. Remember Devil Dinosaur in a smoking jacket? Remember Rick Jones as Bucky? Remember Power Man, the man made of ions? Remember the time they nuked Muir Island? Heck, The Orb came back as an evil cabbie. Winter Soldier should be hunting down midget werewolves, escaped time traveler Hounds from Days of Future Past working in the International Kickboxing Federation, different iterations of Kang the time era conqueror working as coffee baristas, etc etc. Instead Bucky has two settings, just stares at things from under lousy hair (while people argue), or shooting things. Not counting the big demerit of bringing back Cap's partner Bucky.
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>>90988871
>You can save on voice actors for animation because she is mostly mute.

Kinda depends on how good your animation is, since now you're reliant on body language and gestures.
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>>90988017
I'm still eternally pissed that Johns killed off Minute Man and General Glory off panel.
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>>90987376
>>90988063
go to bed grandpas
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>>90963810
And such a lame way to go too. Not with a bang but with a whimper.
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>>90968508
>>90971968
Yes, well that was the intention. But people got so fucking pissed (Because right before this Sally got shot to death, reality reset, and then got turned into a robot) he changed it so that Antoine just got blown into a coma.

This was actually a last minute thing, as the next issue can be read under the assumption that Antoine is dead and,nothing changes

Sadly because of the reboot this never got resolved
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>>90971844

>"Except I never said once that it NEVER happens at all...."
>"This would not kill a person"

You got BTFO. Your anus may never recover.
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>>90967543
Even sited his sources, get fucked
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>>90970292

I think Marvel needs to realize you can only kill entire schools of children so many times before it stops being a tragedy and becomes ridiculous. I get this kind of thing actually happens in America with some regularity, but there comes a point where it just makes the X-men/Avengers look like incompetent caretakers. I've had my fill of mean spirited shit where kids get shot by snipers or despatched unceremoniously by d-list villains.
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>>90967865

Except people thought Fedor would be a quadriplegic for a split second. Do you know why? Because people become quadriplegic by falling on their necks like that you retard.
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>>90990583
> the X-men/Avengers look like incompetent caretakers
well they are anon the fact that they have amazing powers an abilities doesnt qualify them to train nor take care of children, remeber how wolverine thougth it was a good idea to re open a school that literaly have a school bus full of children burn to asses?
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>>90968261
You don't... You don't actually BELIEVE you won that argument right?
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>Ctrl+F "Sue Dibny"
>0 results

I'm honestly not surprised, but I'm still disappointed.
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>>90968503
Let me get the original statement
>oh come the fuck on This would not kill a person.
Anon the way it's stated means it's impossible in no way would ANY person for from this.
Now you are saying ya people can die from this, you lost your original argument might as well stop
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>>90990670
>or maybe you wind up paralyzed because you fell down or some threw a ball at your head the wrong way
that was preaty neet to be honest
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>>90968521
That is some megavirgin tier shit to say fampai
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>>90986502

>That pic

I don't even know this character, but that's miserable. Why are comic writers so fucking lazy with their shock tactics?
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>>90971844
Cracker, why have you not left yet?
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>>90986766
Anon you need help
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>>90986766
Why are you still responding? Are you a fan of getting your shit pushed in?
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>>90990629
>remeber how wolverine thougth it was a good idea to re open a school that literaly have a school bus full of children burn to asses?

Oh god, Wolverine was the worst and it was made all the worse by what a fucking hypocrite he was. Tried to take the moral high ground about not training child soldiers and called Scott a murderer, then proceeded to get all his students killed.

Why can none of these self-important fucks understand creating schools just makes them easy targets? When are they going to figure out that staying on the down low is safest? Only the kids with powers you can't hide should be taken in and that school ought to be a fucking FORTRESS not Wolverine's giant fucking bullseye of a school.
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>>90990839
At this point I'm enjoying the shitshow, it's kinda fun watching everyone lose their shit over your dumbass
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>>90990852

The problem with schism was it was too little too late. Surge's team had already been tortured and killed by purifiers, fought Nimrod while the X-men where off doing who the fuck cares, sent to hell and drug into Messiah War.
You don't bounce back from that because a drunk canadian watched saved by the bell.

What pissed me off the most was that their struggles and accomplishments where completely ignored so they could feel like teachers. They where full X-men, no arguments. Kitty was made a full team member for far far less.
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>>90963355
I didn't even care about most of these characters and this still bothers me. It's everything that is wrong with Marvel. New characters never getting a chance to develop, classic characters getting god awful OOC makeovers to satisfy a writer's ego, a book existing purely for the purpose of capitalizing on a pop culture trend (Hunger Games) while completely misunderstanding why the thing they are ripping off appealed to people in the first place... wasting decent art on bad writers... and just a complete lack of heart.
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>>90991105
Yeah, in Hopeless' defence, all the OC donut steels and z-list randos were actually pretty interestingly written and presented. Hopeless *can* actually write, he just goes full retard shock value too often. He's basically Millar-lite
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>>90964474
Did it sell well, though? I thought it was a really forced book no one actually wanted?
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>>90967312
>destroy evil fascist empire
>y-yeah but he wasn't a nice guy so he's not a hero!

Lmao he'd be like venerated like American Revolution figures are
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>>90968400
Best Reed Richards.
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>>90988017
Johns writes like he's collecting (you)s.
It's one of the reasons he became popular.

The other reasons are because he has multiple planned out long runs, and uses continuity decently.
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>>90968798
There was nothing 'fun' about AA, though, that's what kills me. Arcade was a classic villain with goofy over the top themed traps and labyrinths... not some fag who dresses like a Vampire the Masquerade LARPer and creates a virtual reality world with literally no theme or flavor.
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>>90991243
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>>90975357
You are a retard
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>>90963810
FunFact: Scott's not actually dead. It was "___?___" who died... thus the name of that series...
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Diamond Lil was put through so much shit... experimented on, trying to find her missing husband, getting beat up by his own Box Bots at a mutant concentration camp, finally finding her husband, and right when he reconciles with her this shit happens. Yost is an arrogant ass who didn't even bother to read about how Lil's power works. She should have been impervious due to her bio-aura. This character had history, personality, and potential, yet all writers used her for was a punching bag without anyone bothering to flesh out a backstory for her.

What's worse is Yost's boast in an interview that it doesn't matter if he kills off obscure characters because fans of those characters will still buy it for the appearance of the character. Well I for one did not, and I never will buy one of his books.
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>>90977122
Emma is already sterile. That stupid asshole, PAD, didn't know that all of Emma's eggs were harvested by Sublime and used to breed Weapon XIV, a.k.a. The Stepford Cuckoos.
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>>90979530
If I were on my computer, instead of my tablet, I'd post a picture of meat sentinel Wallflower bidding you hello.
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>>90990620
Everyone in the audience thought Fedor was dead after getting slammed like that or at best, paralyzed. But guess what? It didn't fucking happen you stupid fuck.
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>>90979870
>Gwen wasn't beloved

*I* loved her.
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>>90974301
Did the symbiote survive?
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>>90979530
This isn't about my girls Gwen & Jean, for you -- you're just upset that your D-list waifu doesn't get any love.

*You* get over it, and get off my lawn or I'll jam one of my canes up your punk ass.
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>>90963018
You know who I feel for and really shouldn't?
When Age-of-Apocalypse introduced Morph as an alt-U X-Man to synergize on the cartoon Morph I read a Wizard mini-article on the original character from back in the '60s (the one with the ugly purple costume who worked for an alien and died as Professor X's body-double)

I kinda want THAT Morph to have lived retroactively. As a villain. And I've never even read a single issue with him in it.
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>>90991443
Everyone is tired of hearing you cry about your bland over exposed waifus and how unfair it is that they died occasionally despite the ridiculous amount of content you have of them.
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>>90974301
Likewise, Eddie killing Hybrid for no good reason, even though he knows Hybrid is doing the same Lethal Avenger type shit he was.
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>>90991497
changeling was the original character's name
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>>90968056
Did you have to post that?
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>>90962908
Who
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>>90991243
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>create decent diversity legacy character that people like
>kill him just to prove the villains are serious
>not even a new villain, just Deathstroke
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>>90967840
Then he pisses on the corpse, films it, and we cut to a very, very, very angry looking Clark Kent eating beef and potatoes in a cheap diner?
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>>90969453
What also gets me is how it shows what Dillon was capable of even then.
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>>90992109
Best end
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>>90962908
Why? You know they're come back.
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Victor was turned into a junkie, child killer and even got cucked out of dying in a Runaways-related run.
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>>90991542

Hybrid wasn't even doing that, his symbiotes wouldn't let him kill or maim.
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>>90993476
Made the worse because it's presence in an acclaimed run will make it stick all the more.
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>>90970671
He and Taskmaster are Hydra bodyguards now.
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>>90989268
The cyborg parts would have been cool. Since she had all her meat parts, they could have had the implants be unreliable and have her wheelchair bound when not out as Batgirl.
Cyborg could have become a big part of her new book, giving readers a reason to care about him instead of just seeing him as DC's current token black.
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>>90994752
. . . no one remembers M.A.N.T.I.S.
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>>90968400
If Marvel wasn't full retard, the Maker could be a really amazing Fantastic Four villain.

>Smart as Reed with no moral restrictions
>Creepy relationship with Sue, where he pines for her and she only sees a depressing possible future for her husband
>Knows how to hit Ben Grimm right in the feels, and can get in his head
>Doesn't hold back on Johnny's bullshit

It's a real shame he was made now and not back when FF was a great comic. He could've been up there with Doom, Annihilus, and Galactus as a classic FF rogue if done right.
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I know he's back, but didn't Carnage get thrown into the sun at some point? I remember being angry about that a few years back.

Like, Carnage needs to die, I just knew that the eventual return would feel stupid seeing as he was thrown into the goddamned sun.
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>>90968032
Ohhhh, so you're just stupid.

That's cool. I can respect your life choices, you just can't expect me to just *assume* you're stupid.
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>>90968349
damn i felt that fedora tip from here
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He was the superior Iron Fist. We should've had a Conferate of the Curious ongoing as well.
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>>90995063
Knowing how Spidey is now, it's probably a clone at this point.
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>>90963417
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>>90992173
At least Giganta got some payback.
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>>90995319
Who's that with Vader?
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>>90995542
Laurita Tohm

from a comic called Darth Vader and the Ghost Prison

no longer canon but still one of my favorite stand alone comics

I might storytime it tonight actually
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>>90986543
It's funny because he said in an interview that he wanted to give her her own issue before killing her off but didn't because reasons. What a fucking hack.
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>>90995730
>googles it

Wow. Shit like that is why the bad guys always lose in the long run.
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>>90991041
The shit they did with New X-Men is pretty much why I stopped reading X-Men. Runaways was what I read afterwards, and it started strong and then just kind of...

Stopped being strong.
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>>90995319
Vader really was a jealous ass bitch, he could've been the most competent loyalist in your empire that if Vader didn't get jealous for Sheeves number 1 spot
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>>90995310
I adored how that part of the run was basically Planetary.
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This entire thread could be filled with C list X-Men characters but fuck man they didn't even both to get Jamie's tattooo right and he's had it since 2010! It'd just take a half second fucking google!
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>>90996954
forgot my pic fuck
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>>90996980
Jamie's still on that farm.
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>>90996980
>Scott, it is I, the original Multiple Man, and I hereby officially confirm I will now die to up the stakes of this series. I also confirm I have no copies left to leave even the remotest doubt.
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>>90996660
Thrawn got lucky he's out of reach.
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>>90997323

Now that's a true professional.
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>>90984680

character name?
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>>90999796
valkyrie soon to be black washed in thor ragnarok
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>>90999839
>valkyrie

ty ty
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>>90983574
This why Jason Todd deserved to come back and have another chance because DC know that the vote wasn't legit and they still killed him off.
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>>90996980
>>90997323
Reminder that the Inhumans somehow had NO IDEA the Mists were killing Mutants and making all deaths from this mini absolutely pointless
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>>90996980
I somehow missed this, and the writer can fuck right off.

There are dupes all over the place and half of them think they're the original. Jamie's fine.
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>>90968798
Ugly.
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>>90970383
WWait got pictures of that?
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>>90996954
>>90996980
but the original Madrox is on a farm with Layla being retired and married
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>>90968798

He's for everyone because he's versatile as fuck

Arcade's origin is that he got bored being a normal assassin so he started Murderworld. He's for hire so he can show up anywhere or just show up to be a prick
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>>91000298
You have to respect that kind of motivation.
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>>91000516

yeah Arcade's awesome
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>>90969932

They don't have a rule against cheap shots.
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>>90989268

>nutted but she still suckin'
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>>90968412
It's The Sandman, and really talking about it at all would spoil a lot of the ending. Take the time to read through it, Gaiman peaked with it, and he's still writing some pretty good stuff.
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>>90991443
OH FUCK OFF! Gwen Stacy and Jean Grey are constantly in comics and other media. Jean even came back to life twice in the X-Men movies, she's that overused! You can't act like Gwen Stacy is a giant tragedy when three versions of her were out in comics the last few months!

Gwen is Spider-Gwen, Gwen is Deadpool, Gwen is brought back over and over again as a clone, you complain that my character gets no love? You're part of a group that loves a character who died in he 70's so much that her death is STILL fucking whined about when she's mainly been a bitch to Peter.
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>>90969064
>>90963355
.....I was a huge fan of the Sentinel '03 run but I dropped out of comics for awhile and I had no idea this happened. Marvel has not ceased disappointing me since I got back in to comics.
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>>91001945
Gwen isn't Deadpool.
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>>91002132
marvel realy make an smart move to make her not "gwen" her fans always cry autistic screams wen someone mentions stacy
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>>91002239
>there can't be more than one blonde-haired girl named "Gwen" in the entirety of the MCU
Could marvelfags get any dumber?
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>>91002383
she even looks like stacy what your point there autist?
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>>90964341
Yeah this ones is mine too.
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>>90971527
No balls
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>>90966713
This.
It's even worse because she basically died for useless:the character. What the hell?
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>>90991422
Eddie brock had it for a while after this
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>>90969096
I remember on one of the Hellcat storytime treads, some anons were questioning how the art in the comics was so bad, since the artist is generally pretty competent. It was concluded that Leth is probably a horrible procrastinator and doesn't get the script to the artist in a timely manner, so the art is rushed.
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>>91000267
And he's not even a mutant.
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>>90972314
He's not dead, he just got another 7000 year timeout. Kind of felt bad for him though, old Zeus was the real villain of the book.
The first born is more compelling than Kratos ever was
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>>91003268
he was a primordial mutant or something
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Such a a cheap death. Cant even remember who was writing Earth 2 at this point.
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>>90991243
The only thing that irked me was how little of a shit Owlman gave, he didn't even acknowledge it in the issue. Seemed uncharacteristically cold of him to to completely shrug off his frequent partner getting killed. I didn't need him to be as melo-dramatic as he was in the movie but he could have spared a wistful glance off into the distance.
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>>91003669

I don't think he knew (up until the epilogue when they were visiting Laurie's mother, I suppose). The last he saw, Rorschach was walking off into the snow, and he was already passed out by the time Manhattan came back.
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>>91003580
it wasn't Robinson or Taylor
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>>90969496
I love that Emmaclops is seen on recordings.
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>>90967312
Yeah, and V himself makes that point. He uses anarchy to destroy the fascist government, intentionally dying in the proces, so someone better than him can rebuild.
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>>90967170
I knew a lady who one day was at the bank, tripped, hit her head, and died on the spot.
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