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Why can't this faggot stop crying?

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Why can't this faggot stop crying?
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>>90955733
Raised by women.
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>>90955733
It's not crying, it's a glandular problem.
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Shit character
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>>90955733
Raised in an environment detrimental to his emotional development.
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>>90955733
Because he's sad and sensitive.
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Because he knows OP is still alive,
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>>90955733
His dad's a good person, but a shit role model and the gems are all manchildren

I haven't watched more than 2 episodes, did I get it right?
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>>90955733
I would love an alternate Steven Universe show where instead of sadness and tears, it's full of rage and hatred
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He's just sweating out of his eyes.
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>>90955733
You first.
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>>90955872
A little bit. His Dad's nice but can't really be a Dad since he never really hangouts with him a lot, and Steven doesn't live with Greg

Gems aren't Human so they try to raise Steven to the best of their abilities but they're horrible at it

Steven was taught to always express his emotions, rather then to develop emotional maturity, which the Gems can't teach that

Pearl is the closest thing he has to a mom. But hasn't really been a "Motherly" figure in recent episodes

Garnet was very detached and more of that cool cousin type for Steven in earlier episodes. Now her character is just 2 gays in a trenchcoat

Amethyst is more of a sister and can be bit of a bad influence as she hasn't really gotten her shit straight either to it rubs off on Steven
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>>90955773
OP said stop crying, not stop being fat
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>>90955733
The show he lives in sucks ass
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>>90955733
Here's a question for you anons

How would he do in your old middle/high school?
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It was just raining wasn't it
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>>90956188
Sent home in tears within the first HOUR.
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>>90956188
fine if he could contain his autism and follow the dress code

we had plenty of of dramatic gay kids in my class, they usually stuck to the choir
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>>90955733

>Mom is dead
>Dad handed you over to some people that admittedly you love, but still doesn't raise you himself
>Never allowed to socialise in school, because the Gems want to go all Captain Fantastic on your ass
>Additionally, they appear to be your sources of education and knowledge, but all too often show how out depth they are not only on the parenting side, but in general
>Your closest mother figure loathed your father figure until very recently, and you've always been aware of this no matter how much they tried to hide it
>Said mother figure loved your mother, and you know she probably resents you on some level for getting rid of her
>Your mother left you with a cool destiny and powers, but didn't teach you how to deal with it and no-one else can help
>It becomes increasingly clear that while she loved you, she was also more heavily flawed than anyone you know, despite all the kiss assing people do
>Because of her benevolent actions, shit's going to go down which your parental figures can't stop, and she can't either
>Because she's not here, it's now all on you despite all the coddling and safekeeping your parents give you, EVERYONE YOU KNOW will either die or be imprisoned like lab rats if you can't stop it
>Even so, they refuse to tell you the full picture, knowing that it makes you less prepared
>If you fuck up, everyone you love will get fucked up
>If you train someone else to defend themselves, they'll either not grasp the gravity of the situation, be subject to the scorns of said parental figures or you'll end up wanting them off the front lines so they don't die
>Despite everything that's at stake, your parental figures and friends won't stop fucking fighting and being rude to each other, and they take time out of the measly morsel left to exhange quips while dismissing your pleas of getting along as childish
>Everytime you try to convince someone you mean no harm, they either betray you or transform into an abomination

Such a child, rite?
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>>90956386
Say what you will about the series, Steven is actually a pretty compelling protagonist.
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>>90955733
he watched too much HnK
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>>90956437
No he's not dude. No he's not.
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>>90956469
Not that anon but yeah, dude, he is.
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>>90956469
Oh, okay.
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>>90956188
middle school would've been brutal
high school no one would give a shit
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>>90955733
Because the target audience considers him the least important aspect of his show except for how he defies traditional gender roles by being a whiny bitch.
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>>90956386
>the Gems want to go all Captain Fantastic on your ass
...What?
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>>90956437
Good backstory, just wish it was attached to a better character
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>>90955733
Because snakes don't have any arms. Why can't you stop shit posting OP?
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>>90955733
Life is shit
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>>90956188
The kid can bench more than any of us can. He'd be fine.
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>>90956518

Viggo Mortensen's film, captain fantastic.

Mom has depression, so bad that dad raises the kids. Disliking what he feels is the degeneracy and coddling of society, he educates and trains his kids to higher levels, without actually pointing out that it's way above their heads.

Well, that's the start of it, the rest of the film would be too spoilery.
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No, because he has to be relatable to all the fags that watch this show
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Strange how a character is emotionally immature if thethe cry every few episodes, but they're perfectly fine if they get angry every single episode...
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>>90956188
bullied to death
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>>90956188
My old High School filled with soccer gangs that fucking stab you over stupid shit or because Boca lost a match.

He would put himself in danger just by being there.
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>>90956987
>Steven in Argentina
Che, Valentina, mirá, ese niño tiene tetas
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>>90956188
did you see what that kid did when Buck insulted his T-shirt art. He'd fucking shoot up the school in a week.

he'd fit in well with the "pacifist pilot" type character now that I think of it. Beats the fuck out of mindless aliens, space fascists, "Kevins", art snobs, the Polish, and extremist people when he dosn't like what they do while screaming about peace and love because of "muh Earth, he's just a bit more faggy. what I'm saying is Steven Universe could have been a mech show and nothing would change
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>>90955768
Raised by dykes
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>>90956188
Depowered or with his powers?

There were far worse kids that were much easier to bait, he'd get by fine.
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>>90955733
Who tricked you ino thinking crying was shameful?
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>>90956188
He would have had his nose broken and probably go on to either off himself or become a school shooter.
Middle school kids are fucking barbaric m8
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>>90957079
Lol
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>>90956188

>Middle School

Be known as one of the annoying retarded kids and get mercilessly picked on. He'd be crying every other day.

>Highschool

Probably ignored/ostracized and laughed at behind his back and in front of him.
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>>90955733
Because he isn't allowed to have a role outside of being a tear machine. Focus needs to be on the gems as much as possible so that the waifufags are satisfied
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>>90956188
With his powers he'd easily find a clique/group to hang with. People aren't giving his powers enough credit, and while I agree Steven without powers would be bullied to hell and back (deserved), Steven with powers would flow through the school and be not only a teachers favorite, but a 'cool kid' who has a one of a kind super human. Nobody else at school would compare to him, except in looks.
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>>90956987
>>90957079
>Me llamo Esteban Universidad y amo los gato galletas. GUSTO en conocerlos!
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>>90956188
>Mostly psychological bulling with little physical

Dude is gonna kill himself
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>>90958731
Esteban UNIVERSO, imbecil.
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>>90956386
>>90956520
Sounds like Shinji Ikari, except Shinji can't solve his problems crying and he act like a depressed 14 years old kid instead than a retarded 5 years old kid
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>>90956651
/co/ hates Korra, retard.
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>>90959257
Es UNIVERSIDAD, maricon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heXZsdPPCno

Seguro eres argentino.
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>>90956188
Blissfully unaware that people make fun of him

Would probably die his hair though
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>>90956188
Grew up in Germany.

He would be a punching bag for Turks. He'd try the whole compromise shtick just to get his ass kicked even harder.
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>>90959789
Steven would be a punching bag for everyone regardless race or nationality. To be fair, he'd piss off turks more for his condescending PC bullshit
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>>90959703
>este-ban
traductor de google? donde?
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>>90955733
Because he keeps shrinking.
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>>90955733
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>>90955733
Why do you care?
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Would he still be as whiny if he was exposed to other humans more often? He seems out of touch with human behavior in general, not just the whining. Like, his entire character arc so far has been him figuring out he has been both babied and neglected, and that he needs to grow a spine (boy was I happy about the "Pearl's upset? I'M UPSET!" thing. It was about damn time he told the Gems off. Season 1 Steven wouldn't have done that.)

I mean, they literally have an episode where Greg is looking through an album and comments that Steven has "stagnated" at around age... nine? Maybe ten? I don't remember but it was definitely prepubescent.
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>>90955733
he's an empath
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>>90960547
SU humans are dumb retards without common sence so no.
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>>90959703
Eso lo escribió un chicano de mierda.
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>>90956188
I would have friended and looked over him if he had his powers or enough money to buy me cigs and stuff. Real bullying only happened to worthless loneliers and as much of a faggot he is, Steven is so friendly and stupidly brave he would have become friends with anybody that's not openly anti-gay after a couple of weeks of being a punchbag.
I'd punch him myself if he started singing.
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>>90956188
>with powers
No one would mess with him or talk to him the kid is a lethal weapon.
>without powers
He would be transfered within a month, he lacks social awareness, a pacifist, and is a cry baby. The kids in my middle school would eat him alive and record his autistic antics to put it on Worldstar. He would also be that one kid who would preach in class or the auditorium when speaking about social issues only to have a couple of kids to tell him to shut up or mock him. He'll be similar to this kid around 0:50:

https://youtu.be/DZzCKXKeBEk
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>>90955733

No reason to. When he cries his team of mommies comes in and makes everything better. Crying is problem solving in Steven's world.
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>>90960616
>SU humans are dumb retards without common sence

So, normal humans?
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>>90961177
No
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>>90961715
Sure, pal.
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>>90956188
He would be in the special needs program

Of course the gems and his dad would immediately get fucking pissed and demand he to go into normal classes. Then he would piss everyone off and be completely friendless. Actually he'd have friends but they would be the other loner assholes no one liked and even Steven didn't like but allowed to hang with him because he's alone and would forgive everything wrong they do.

He'd probably get bullied until he fucking left the school. Oh now I get why he's homeschooled.
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>>90956581
You realize the best way to actually hurt this over emotional faggot is just to bully him verbally and mentally right? He might be physically strong because of his gem heritage (despite being obese) but mentally he's a complete bitch
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>>90956188
Middle school he would be mocked and teased relentlessly because he wouldn't stop making himself the center of attention and fucking yelling ALL THE GOD DAMN TIME. Not to mention he'd probably try to heal a kid by licking them and get sent to juvie or arrested if it was a chick

High school would be the same
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>>90956188
My school was pretty chill so I feel like nothing would happen until eventually someone figured out who his parents were or where he lived and realized what was going on so they reported him to child services and got him taken away from the gems
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>>90962418
Until you push him too hard.
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>>90962815
And then what? He "attacks" and gets expelled? The fucks he going to do?
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>>90955733
He was born with the corpse of his mother embbeded in his belly and is constantly reminded of her and sometimes compared, also her dead shit mom left a war on his hands.
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>>90956188
He would change schools before the end of the week.
My middle school was bruta when it came to hazing.
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>>90962861
he'd cry like bitch nigga
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>>90962418
He hangs around with Lars. Verbal abuse wouldn't be that effective.
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>>90956386
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Its almost as if this show would be good if they started cutting all the chaff they have in the form of those townies and muh feelings episodes and instead focused on this very interesting conflict instead, but the fact that they barely focus on this aspect makes Steven a whiny and poorly developed character
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>>90963294
>Lars
Lars is an even bigger pussy. No one cares about the shit he says. Not even Steven gives a shit.
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>>90958731
>>90959257
>>90959703
>>90960716

I love it when two anons reveal they don't live in the US, and then start speaking their native moonrune language just to prove it
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>>90955733
Steven just bugs me, his attitude in general is just so cloying and juvenile but he's never wrong about anything, he's just so effeminate and doesn't exhibit any masculine traits that makes his whole demeanour comes off as weird, I get the feeling that the writers want to write him as some kid who's in touch with his emotions but it just comes off as weird, and given how everyone in the town loves him despite being some annoying kid, and that nobody seems to call attention to the way he acts outside of that one episode but they ultimately say "Steven is great" at the end, which makes me think they don't think there's anything wrong with him and that he's a positive role model or something.

He really comes off as a naive immature 8 year old kid despite being 14(?) and really seems to lack a positive male figure in his life. I don't think there are any positive masculine characters on the show outside of arguably Greg, but he's some weirdo who lives in a van and leaves his son to be raised by other people.
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>>90963390

Its heartbreaking, the show falls short of being good at every turn, i woudn't even mind if at least the town episodes were good and the feelings episode a bit more focused, its such a fucking mess, I guess that's the reason why im so bitter about this show
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>>90963805
And Greg is a little effeminate too.
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>>90963805
Kids need to learn the world is a hard place and not everyone is going to like you. Even classic Disney show the world can be tough despite they receive so much shit lately
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>>90964071
Not really, his real problem is that he's so chill its almost creepy at times
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>>90955733
when was the last time he cried? hasnt it been a while
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>>90964088
>movies that couldn't be made today.jpg
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>>90956188
He would get fucking obliterated
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>>90963805
>I don't think there are any positive masculine characters on the show outside of arguably Greg, but he's some weirdo who lives in a van and leaves his son to be raised by other people.

Greg dicked down a space goddess through confidence and emotional maturity, and Rose was the one who let HIM down through her lies and secrecy.

He's a positive masculine figure no matter which way you cut it.
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>>90963805
>this is what Gregfags actually believe
And Rose was a canon whore
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>>90964297
Meant for >>90964211
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>>90964297
>>90964327
>canon whore

she had prior relationships in the thousands of years before greg was born

she was an immortal. greg locked that shit down and got her to kill herself to continue his bloodline. how is that not masculine
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>>90964376
>masculine
All what he did was cry and being dumb.
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>>90963805
>I don't think there are any positive masculine characters on the show
Andy was the only positive human character on the show. Actually, he is the only real human on the show
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>>90956188
>hypersensitive
>fat
>raised mostly by women
>dad lives in a van

He'd be on a death sentence
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>>90964211
>>90964376

>Greg is a great role model becouse he knows how to flirt

A man's worth is defined by its virtues, his actions and the trials they endure, greg is definetly the most mature person in that group of people, but that's not saying much, and even when he knows he's the more mature person in the room full of retards, he never does anything about it

He never does anything about anything really
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>>90964088
>>90961077

This. This is the reason why Steven devolved into such a shitty protagonist. He doesn't solve many of his personal or past issues through affirmative actions anymore. Instead he just wines his way through it, or solves petty social issues related to largely unimportant shit like sexuality instead. It's not the kind of shit you should be teaching children to improve or handle their lives.
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>>90964762
What's weird is that SU wants to have their cake and eat it to with everything. They want Steven to be a young kid but also 15. Why not just make him the age he acts instead of writing that convulsed plot point that is for the most part ignored?

And originally I like his father, you don't usually have a bum father in a cartoon. Considering those exist for a lot of people out there (the dad is a pos but the kid thinks he owns the world) but then they made him a millionaire and the fans argue to the death that he is a great father

Like it's okay if Greg and Steven are shitty and obnoxious people respectively. The fact that the fans defend them with a zealot like passion is weird.
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>>90965049
The cluster episode was especially bad. total bs
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>>90966890
>they made him a millionaire and the fans argue to the death that he is a great father
Anyone basing their claim that Greg's a good dad based on his bank account is retarded.

Greg's a good person, and if a trio of superpowered aliens hadn't taken his son from him he might've learned to be a good dad.

As it is, he never got the chance, so instead he's basically Steven's chill uncle.
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>>90966982
You gotta admit the million dollars came out of left field. That was some dues ex machina crap
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>>90967018
It exists as an excuse for shit like having an episode in NYC, or for them to be on a boat so they can encounter Jasper at sea.

I don't recall it solving the dilemma of the episode, so it's not a DEM.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou7oK9LWNuY
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>>90967018

What's double weird is that the only payoff of that was Mr.Greg (Which could have happened without the money) and the "Im on a boat" episode (which could have happened without the money or the boat)

Everything else stayed the same

Which i guess that makes it a waste of time

I guess the point of that was to make greg into not a loser, but he's still also a loser since he still lives in a van?
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>>90956987
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>>90955733

He actually rarely cries.

And then only at moments of extreme emotional stress.
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>>90956188
probably would be that kid who hung out with girls and was considered by them and everyone else to be gay. eventually dies of aids or a drug overdose.
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>>90955896
>the homeworld war and crystal gem war would actually be more violent
I approve
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>>90969541
Steven act like a gay stereotype
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>>90967136
I guess it just come to really shitty story writing
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Crying is all faggots know how to do.
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Legit question why is it a lot of you seem to condone bullying?
A lot of you in this thread seem perfectly ok with bullying acting like its perfectly natural.
Is this like an anti tumblr thing or something?
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>>90971047
Because the world is hard and it builds character etc. etc.
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>>90971047
Because after I grew up and looked back on my childhood I realized I was bullied because I acted like a weird, annoying faggot who did stupid shit just to get attention. The bullying isolated me until my early 20s and made me constantly rethink and reanalyze how I was acting.

If I was coddled and told that it was okay to just act like an annoyinf faggot because it was "who I was" I wouldn't have a job/friends/etc
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>>90971067
That always seems to be the bullies excuse.
Also it completely ignores the kids who get mentally damaged hurt themselves. or even hurt others.
Pain can build your character but to act like bullying is perfectly ok seems so over the to.
I can't tell if some of you are saying this because your where or are bullies or if you where bullied yourself and try to view it as character growth.
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>>90956386
A pampered whiny ass bitch.
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>>90971143
Of course it's not right to bully but the high majority of kids are bullied for a valid reason. The media always likes to show people being bullied for having a disability or being different (not acting annoying and immature but by actually different) but from experience and talking with my friends, kids were actually really nice to the downs kids and the kids who were shy or were a minority.

They bullied the loud, obnoxious, disruptive, kid who pissed them off all the time.
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>>90971047
Because when Holocaust Denial and saying the N-Word 200 times a day doesn't shock people anymore, 4chan anons need to reach for the bottom of the barrel.
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at middleschool, literally everyone would bend over backwards since he had Nintendo. at highschool he'd be as popular as it gets and end up changing whose school.
So many "i lived in a """"""""bad"""""""" neighborhood" guys hanging in /co/, and noones buying, phony cucks
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>>90971455
How fucking poor were you that no one had a fucking Nintendo?
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>>90971224
I don't know your school experience but from my old school kids where bullied for being quiet or for their disability's.
You seem to think bullies are in the right but most of the time their just cunts and its rather depressing to see so many on here acting like its more then ok but the bullies are in the right.
bullying mostly hurts kids and doesn't make them better.
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>>90956188
He'd probably get picked on a lot. Kids would call him a faggot.
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>>90967136
That's what gets me about Greg becoming a millionaire. He did absolutely nothing to improve his standard of living! He could've moved out his van and purchased a decent home, but he chooses to live in squealer. I can understand not wanting to blow it all on frivolous shit, but at least buy some new clothes or something.
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>>90971047
It's nothing new. Before the anti-bullying campaign, teachers used to ignore bullying because kids need to man up and parents used to blame their kids for being bullied because that mean they're syssies. I think many adults still think like that even if they don't say it
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>>90971798
It's almost like Greg is just a piece of shit by nature
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>>90956007
>which the Gems can't teach that
makes no sense when Garnet is part of the gems.
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>>90956188
ignored or told to fuck off whenever he tries to force his shit on people. get his shit stolen on a regular basis. also get tricked into doing stupid shit like eating shit in front of everyone by the typical abusive crowd.
Considering his inability to focus he's be expelled in the first anyway because crying in school gets you sent to the medical exam immediately and removed from the normal people.
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>>90956386
>all that fucking projection and girl magazine psychology
fuck off, retard.
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>>90972491
This. The whole "nice guy" is typical said but never shown by actions. He's an horrible person, and he teaches his kid like a pet instead of a person.
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>>90972627
What's funny is when I started watching the show I thought the whole point of Greg was to be a piece of shit deadbeat father. Which isn't necessarily bad in a story. If he'a supposed to be a deadbeat and the story uses that correctly then it'd be fine

But they make him this pos dead as father who doesn't even raise his kid and then the fans and the show itself try to act like he's a good person/father. Just fuck
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>>90955733
>Every episode is about muh feels
tumblr will defend this
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>>90956386
Definitely a child. They've demonstrated in-show that he is 14 years old, yet mentally (and physically, due to gem magic) 8 years old.

Steven is literally retarded.
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>>90955733
because of the retardation of this show
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>>90956188

>all these people saying he would get rekt

He's too autistic to be offended by bullying. Look at lars, the guy treats steven like shit and he thinks they're best friends.
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>>90956188
He'd be Chris-Chan, basically.
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>>90955733
First of all - writers doesn't have ideas for new episodes so they do "ok, let's make another Steven is retarded and he cry episode"
Secondly most of cartoons has two targets children and their parrents but SU has only one - children. So they doesn't even bother to make more complicated episodes or show more complicated feels like being cucked by your best friend
Lastly it is tumblr -the cartoon so main character is always triggered
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>>90956437
>I ALWAYS GET WHAT I WANT! :D
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>>90972943
>He's too autistic to be offended by bullying.
It just double the abuse.
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>>90973027
I'm pretty sure SU target audience is tumblr only
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>>90955733
The writer is a woman and believes a fat boy would get the same free pass for being a pissing crybaby as the cute little girl she was in her white upper white middle class neighborhood.
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He must have pretty thick skin, if I were a fat Jew I'd cry all the time.
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>>90973089
Tumbl and children share their mentality both are whiny and needy
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>>90973147
Not really. Kids want to grow up fast and have adventures. They're closer to 4chan, that's why the term manchildren exist
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>>90955733
They're trying to sell the idea that it's okay for a guy to cry frequently, rather than contemptible.
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>>90956188
He'd get bullied, and I'd help.
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>>90955733
He's literally retarded anon

And I mean literally, not '""literally"""
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>>90971629
No one cares that retards bullied other retards in your tard school, anon.
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>>90956188
All the girls would like him since he comes off as "gay best friend" material. He wouldn't have any friends that were guys. A lot of people would probably think he's an absolute attention whore due to how much he cries.
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>>90971224
I was a quiet kid that kept to myself and people would yell insults at me and stuff. They pick vulnerable people is all
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>>90955733
>>90956188
He's crying over all the injustice in the world, like the female wage gap.
But you all just wait!!!
In a 300 years you'll all be dead in a grave and this "crybaby faggot" right here will be the cavalry of the revolution on the battlefield!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgcxd9wtXUE
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>>90974101
We really, really fucking need that screencap
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>>90971224
I was a white kid in a majority Mexican school.

I was bullied for my skin.
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>watch show for over 4 years
>still no male gems
>just a woman trapped in a boy's body
this is suffering
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>>90974754
>>just a woman trapped in a boy's body
>tfw I just got that
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>>90956188
He was a sociable guy, so he would've gotten along pretty well with most folks.
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>>90955733
because the creator is the same autist that gave us crying finn
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>>90974856
Sugar was such poison to that show
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>>90974754
>forgetting Ruby
cyka
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>>90974911
>>90974943
>doubleposting
cyka
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Does anyone in this show have a healthy relationship?

Greg Universe is a horrible father.

Garnet is composed of two codependent people.

Pearl is still in love with Steven's dead mom.

Peridot has been infantilized and made autist so she can't understand... well anything let alone relationships.

Lapis has PTSD.

Steven and Connie had something cute but now Connie is assaulting kids at her school and Steven is fusing with Amethyst and her.

Just, what the fuck is this show?
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>>90956188
He would loses his powers because he wouldn't believe in himself anymore
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>>90975114
>Connie is assaulting kids at her school
She's been highly trained for a war that's coming, which only she seems to take seriously.

I was going to say that she and Steven take it seriously, but Steven joined Lapis and Garnet in allowing Navy to take the fucking ship, so fuck that little faggot.
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>>90974754
Rebecca Sugar is a misandrist. That's why all of male characters in the show are ass.
>mayor dewey the imbecile mayor
>lars the asshole
>ronaldo the cringe lord
>onion the asshole
>mr. fryman the child slave foreman
>marty the deadbeat dad
>greg the other deadbeat dad who let space lesbians raise his child while he lives in a van like a bum and gets children stranded in a snow storm (recently made rich because the creators realized too late what a horrid father figure he was) he is also held solely responsible for the death/disappearance of steven's mother by the gems
>mr. maheswaran the security guard with a bread winner wife/doctor, he is as incompetent as greg and gets stranded in a snow storm too
>steven the retard, who is constantly cucked by connie. she steals his sword, becomes a better fighter, becomes the dominate gender in fusion, and intellectually superior
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>>90975132
You mean he'd get bullied, depressed, and then age into an old man and get the cops called on him because now he's a creepy old man acting like a child in a school, and then when the gems come to try and explain the government arrests them all and experiments on them.

Possibly some of them die by getting shot. Those stupid space feminists are more irrational than ours.

>>90975173
I'm still surprised they thought that breaking student's arm wouldn't have consequences. How the fuck was she not expelled for BREAKING A FUCKING ARM?
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>>90975211
>never watched the show the post
Most of the women on the show are shit and full of problems
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>>90975232
>How the fuck was she not expelled for BREAKING A FUCKING ARM?
Some school officials still cut girls slack for violent actions.

>>90975285
This all over. >>90975211 is a retard.
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>>90975114
Not everything is perfect that's kind of the point of the show.
A lot of people you love and care about probably have their own problems and insecurity's.
Its showing that even though the people you love are flawed you can still love them and they still love you.
Also it would be really boring if everyone was perfect, characters with no flaws aren't all that interesting.
Its a show about drama and family at its heart so of course its going to explore emotions, so its rather baffling that so many on this thread act like that's a bad thing.
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>>90975211
>greg
>dead-beat
>Cares for steven than any other person on that show
>Is the most chill person on the show and when he even becomes rich he still lives with his son and still has the money even after the episode
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>>90974754
is steven even a boy?
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>>90975344
Cares so much he doesn't raise his son

Was a washed out musician who owned a "car wash" aka a building, a hose, soap, and towels and employes no one. And then he got a million dollars and... nothing changed.
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>>90975285
Got to be honest most of the anons here seem to not watched the show.
Its annoys me too since their are legit things to complain about but so many of these anons are just making shit up or talking about random bullshit.
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>>90975396
He got a Toyota.
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>>90975368
I'm honestly hoping the channel gets canceled before they can announce steven as transgender
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>>90975211
>all of male characters in the show are ass
anon pretty much nailed it
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>>90975396
>Is so comfortable with how he lives he just uses his money to spend time on his son
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>>90974754
introducing the newest addition the crystal gems..... A MALE GEM!!!!
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>>90975211
The fans who seemed to have escaped their general are going to disagree but you're right. There isn't a single good male role model.
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I HATE LARS
>Has loving parents that care for him
>Care enough to buy him those faggot Ear gauges
>They try to talk to him about his grades caringly like adults
>Tries so hard to be cool even as a child
>Has little to no friends and the one girl that likes him he doesn't do shit
FUCK LARS
I was lars when I was a teenager
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>>90975285
just wanna add most of the men in SU are pretty solid, sometimes a little out of touch but never the flailing idiots most cartoon dads are

that alone is a fucking relief to see
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>>90964762

Greg is like a PG-13 approved "The Dude", from The Big Lebowski.
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>>90975527
>just wanna add most of the men in SU are pretty solid,

How are they solid? Care to elaborate?
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>>90975232
They're just setting up Jeff X Connie
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>>90975525
As much as I call Ronaldo a autistic fuck head.
He seems like a chill dude
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>>90975567
I hated that episode. They had a chance to really talk about how people have different views and you should be tolerant and listen to them and accept that you may be wrong. Instead they just had the theme be that other people may still be wrong but they had a reason for holding those views and you should sympathize and pity them.
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Sadie's mom tries to push her to do everything she wants to do and comes out overbearing
Connie's mom is strict and kind of a bitch before the hospital incident
Lar's mom is a doormat
Pearl is crazy
Amethyst is pretty much a teenage mother with her own problems
and Garnet is a pretty cool
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>>90975232
>Possibly some of them die by getting shot. Those stupid space feminists are more irrational than ours.

>I'm still surprised they thought that breaking student's arm wouldn't have consequences. How the fuck was she not expelled for BREAKING A FUCKING ARM?

Jesus christ what planet are you from. Expelled just for breaking an arm? What the hell? Glad you weren't my principal in elementary school, I'd have been in deep shit from you being crazy.
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>>90975602
How did you get that?
All I got was hey someone you mite love may have different views then you.
But that's no reason to hate them and while you may disagree you can still love them for who they are.
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>>90975641
>Expelled just for breaking an arm?
>just breaking an arm

You realize what this means right? In school, Connie has a PTSD episode and attacks another kid and breaks his arm. The kid is now screaming his lungs out because he is in excruciating pain and Connie runs out of the school and skips the rest of the day.

What kind of shithole did you grow up in where there are no repercussions when a kid attacks and breaks another kid's arm?
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>>90975641
The views some of the anons have on here are so god damn extreme.
its fucking insane how they seem to think their any less extreme then tumblr in their views.
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>>90975641
>>90975748
where the fuck do you live? Africa? South America? Detroit?
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>>90975709
Of course there were repercussions, I got suspended for a week, I was eight, what the fuck do you want. I didn't get fucking EXPELLED, you don't ruin a child's life because of a single fight.

>>90975748
It's what happens when you base your morals on ideas instead of reality, especially if those ideas are just "Fuck those SJWs" or whatever.
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>>90975368
We cant have men in dress for a gag anymore because tumblr will think its a message about trans or what ever and 4can will think its some kind of trick to brainwash kids.
I hate both of you fucking people we cant just have jokes anymore because of your fucking political views.
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Anyone else think Steven and his lesbian friends are a bad influence on Connie?
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>>90975709
This thread is fucking incredible.
One minute you cunts are justifying bullying saying its perfectly fine and it should happen.
The next minute "Oh my god that kid broke the other kids arm what kind of sick barbarism is this?
You cant say one form of abuse is ok and damn another.
Please the lot of you never get a job in education for the love of humanity.
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>>90975810
No wait.
I was suspended for a week in the first grade in a completely separate incident.
I think I got off easy for breaking the kid's arm because he was a notorious bully so I just had breaktime detention.
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>>90971128
ASSIMILATE
ASSIMILATE

FIT IN
FIT IN
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>>90975860
They're grooming her into becoming a radical freedom fighter (read: terrorist).
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>>90975641
>>90975748
>>90975810
>middle eastern girl is radicalized by illegal aliens and culturally enriches a fellow student
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>>90975860
>>90975925
Pearl is literally teaching Connie that she must die for Steven
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>>90975342
The problem is that there's little beyond those flaws and insequirities and they're not getting any better with time, it gets to a point where people ask themselfs "Why are we suppose to root for you guys?"
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>>90971047
>wahaa people who don't praise me are bullies
T. genZ trash.
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>>90975948
I'm seeing a lot of /pol/ memes but they're very lazily applied, almost a nonsequitor.

>>90975953
>it gets to a point where people ask themselfs "Why are we suppose to root for you guys?"
It clearly hasn't gotten anywhere close to that point though.
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>>90975950
Yeah so? that was treated as bad. Steven straight up hated that Pearl was doing this to Connie.
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>>90975860
>>90975925
jokes aside I wanna know how this doesn't have any repercussions in any way. Like let's just say the school was okay with Connie attacking and breaking another kids arm. But did they not tell her mother? How the fuck does Connie's mom, who was in the fence about the training and gem shit initially, not immediately forbid Connie from being with the gems and Steven when she finds out she attacked a student?
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>>90975285
>I refuse your analysis, you don't see things like me so you never see anything
literally a religious fanatic.
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>>90975977
>I'm seeing a lot of /pol/ memes but they're very lazily applied, almost a nonsequitor.
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>>90975953
But they are getting better?
Do you even watch the show? Amethyst no longer hates herself.
Pearl is slwoly getting over Rose and interacting with humans.
And Garnet has yet to really get her character arc yet but we do know she lies to Steven a lot of Steven is actively getting fed up with that shit.
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>>90976011
Poor writing. I know that's a rather cliche answer, but its the only one that makes any sense.
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>>90976056
They should have done it quicker. SU is lucky to get more than an hour of airtime per week because it's so unpopular.
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>>90975962
What are you talking about?
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>>90976068
It's kind of like how the only thing to come from Greg getting a million dollars is to buy the boat. They just seem to have introduced that and completely forgot about it.
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>>90976052
I'm sure your buddies are laughing uproariously at that hilarious /pol/ in-joke.
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>>90976073
>SU
>Unpopular

I think the main reason this shit thread even exists is because its popular and anons don't like that.
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>>90976099
And why a boat, of all things? Why not do something intelligent and, I don't know, purchase a fucking house so you can stop living in a van like some weirdo?
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>>90976011
Because Connie's most likely an honor student and the whole thing was an accident, Connie was sorry etc., that means the authorities went easy on her. Also Connie's mom no longer so restrictive, after getting her life saved at the hospital.

Also, you guys are making a big deal out the whole "breaking the arm" thing. One a girl broke my fingers and nothing came of it.
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>>90976086
>>90976068
Don't forget the gems know nothing about humans after being here for a thousand years. What have they been doing this whole fucking time that has prevented them from understanding the species on the planet they were trying to save?

Also Steven was born and they still couldn't be bothered to learn anything about humans for him.
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>>90974686
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>>90976105
No but they aren't sensitive little cunts who can't resist letting everyone know they find a joke offensive. Go back to your general if you're going to be such a bitch

>>90976148
Thanks, holy shit that was the best moment of /co/ for a long fucking time. What the fuck is with this show and attracting people with these types of mental disorders?
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>>90976117
/co/ talks about everything regardless of popularity. Fuck there is even a Ferngully thread up right now
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>>90976142
>Don't forget the gems know nothing about humans after being here for a thousand years.
They do know. Their knowledge is not encylopedic though.
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>>90976140
>Also, you guys are making a big deal out the whole "breaking the arm" thing. One a girl broke my fingers and nothing came of it.
>Also, you guys are making a big deal out the whole "breaking the arm" thing.

I'm still wondering what magical world you live in where breaking an arm isn't serious. It's not like it was a sports accident. She fucking attacked him and broke his arm.

>One a girl broke my fingers and nothing came of it
>a girl broke my fingers

Please elaborate
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>>90975948
>>middle eastern girl is radicalized by illegal aliens and culturally enriches a fellow student
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>>90956188
For middle school, he'd get fucking obliterated because of his political views, since I live in a predominantly republican area. He'd hang out with the other outcasts. In fact, when I was in middle school, there was this kid that cried every day over the slightest thing. In high school, he'd hang out with girls and be considered the gay friend. He'd get called a fag everyday and get pushed around. Maybe I'd help. And maybe a few months after graduation, he'd off himself and I'd feel like shit for actually bullying him.
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>>90976228
She kicked.
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>>90976142
My theory is that even though the Gems "saved" humanity, they still don't really care about what humans are doing so long as homeworlders don't start causing trouble again. Then again, I also feel that Gems, by nature, don't hold a lot of compassion for organics in general.
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>that moment before his age was revealed when steven was such a retard that the fans just assumed he was 9 years old or younger
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>>90976173
>No but they aren't sensitive little cunts who can't resist letting everyone know they find a joke offensive.
Who said anything about being offended? All I did was point out how much of a meme spouting retard you are. Did that hurt your feelings or something?
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>>90976259
>She kicked.
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>>90975948
>>middle eastern girl is radicalized by illegal aliens and culturally enriches a fellow student

underrated as shit
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>>90956188
Bullied everyday.
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>>90976148
>In 300 years you'll be dead in the grave and that autistic faggot will be the Calvary of revolution on the battlefield
Wait a minute, did that guy just try to say that Steven Universe is a real person? I know he's based on Sugar's brother, but goddamn, how retarded can you get?

I guess he's watching SU like its some kind of biography or something.
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>>90976142
Humans are like lizards to gems its pure madness to try and bond with a retarded animal.
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>>90976433
lol more.
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>>90976056

For Garnet i would like you to read a previous post of mine >>90935608
>>90937700

For amethyst thats a straight lie, smokey quartz is selfdeprecating in a jokey kind of way, but she really does see herself a defect

Pearl intereacts with a human that looks like rose and that's it, that's the only human she ever wanted to get close or talk to willingly, but she does get better, i'll give you that, the change is miniscule, but she does get better

And all characters change depending on the episode and the person writing it so all of the changes can and will be ignored, so really nothing you or i said matters anyway
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>>90976336
>>90976251
>Those reaction images
Wow it's getting pretty memey in here.
That's kind of epic.
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>>90976415
it was the epitome of SUG, we pissed one of the fans off so much he revealed his power level
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>>90956188
>tfw homeschooled
He'd be fine. I'd probably bully him though
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>>90976142

Wanking off in their temple and tackling the occasional corrupt gem
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>>90976472
Then I'm sorry I missed it. Choice stuff for the /sug/ simulator, if those are even still being made.
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>>90976433
moar

Also guys watch the garnet vs jasper fight they fucked up the animation yet again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7FBm-Y24_A

Watch asper's mask when they fall into the room below. Jasper's mask is broken before Garnet breaks it.
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>>90956188
Steven has super strength, and is becoming incredible durable, what the fuck will the other kids even do?
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>>90976459
Not that anon, but

>For Garnet i would like you to read a previous post of mine
Those posts are full of shit and completely ignore episodes like the one where Amethyst gets reformed or even recently the one that set off the rescue Greg arc where Garnet clearly and unambiguously struggles with her leadership role, and how her visions prevent her from doing things she really wants to do.

>For amethyst thats a straight lie, smokey quartz is selfdeprecating in a jokey kind of way, but she really does see herself a defect
You think that because a person isn't completely reformed, they haven't made any progress at all? That's completely shallow, all you are doing is disregarding episodes because she's not "perfect" yet. An entirely inane argument. She's not in love with herself but she is nowhere near as bad as she once was, and that is reflected on her relationships with the people around. The way she treats Pearl now is entirely unrecognizable from how they treated each other in season 1, and the change is rooted in moving past insecurities that caused her to lash out at Pearl.

>And all characters change depending on the episode and the person writing it so all of the changes can and will be ignored, so really nothing you or i said matters anyway
That's just plain dismissiveness.
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>>90976536
it's amazing how there are many plotholes in this show that the big ones can be frequently forgotten

also how the SHIT was Lapiz strong enough to do that?
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>>90976566
Some black kid might bust a cap in him.
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>>90976566
mock him until he leaves the school or an heros?
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>>90955733
Because he wasn't bullied by emotionally stunted children for showing emotions.
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>>90975641
>>90975748
>>90975810
Holy shit the Connie arm breaking is another plot hole for a completely different reason.

Steven is being kept out of school and the fan defense has been that he's too dangerous to be in school right? Well apparently you can break the arms of kids in school and it doesn't have repercussions. And they let him wonder around the town unsupervised.

So why is he not in school? What are they afraid he's going to accidentally kill a kid by sitting on them?
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>>90976602
Lars mocks him everyday and he doesn't care.
So you cant insult him and you cant hurt him.
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>>90972545
Garnet lost a ton of her character when being a fusion became her biggest thing, and Steven suffered the most for it.
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>>90976459
>And all characters change depending on the episode and the person writing it so all of the changes can and will be ignored, so really nothing you or i said matters anyway

Not who you are talking to but this would explain why they never address the fact that Steven's age fluctuates after the episode where they introduce it. In fact it's only used by fans to defend and justify the shitty animation.

Is the problem with Steven Universe that it's a story driven series that's being written as an episodic show?
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>>90976688
So why the fuck is he not in school in the show?
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>>90976658
Steven is tutored by CGs and groomed to become the next leader of the group. Going to school would be redundant and a waste of time.
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>>90976747
I don't know anon maybe it has something to do with him being half alien with strange powers he doesn't understand?
Maybe its because he's a gem who has the ability's to help the gems and he has to deal with gem monsters and the homeworld gems invading none stop?
Its just guess as all but I think that's more important then school.
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>>90976688
As he's been training with Connie for likely years now, he may trigger his self defense when some bully decides to punch him
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>>90976774
>Steven is tutored by CGs and groomed to become the next leader of the group. Going to school would be redundant and a waste of time.

Considering he is an overly emotional and mentally unstable child to the point that he has mental breakdowns when they stop selling his favorite cookie and almost killed himself by getting depressed, they are kind failing in every single aspect of child rearing let alone "grooming him to be the next leader of the group"

I mean fuck the kid is 14. He's the same age as Katara, Star, and Marco and is older than Dipper, Aang, fuck he acts younger and cries more often than the fucking powerpuff girls. And he's old enough to be in high school

>>90976858
>Its just guess as all but I think that's more important then school.
considering the first thirteen years of his life were like every other kid this argument makes no sense
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>>90976858
>but I think that's more important then school.
You must be a college dropout.

Also
>*than
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>>90976899
that kids going to have a rational fear of foreigners for the rest of his life
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>>90976658
>Holy shit the Connie arm breaking is another plot hole for a completely different reason.
I don't think we're done telling you how wrong you are about the first reason though.

>Steven is being kept out of school and the fan defense has been that he's too dangerous to be in school right? Well apparently you can break the arms of kids in school and it doesn't have repercussions. And they let him wonder around the town unsupervised.
You really can't tell the difference between someone doing a kung fu move and a magical kid who could have spontaneously died from his own powers? Did you just skip the first twenty episodes of season 1?
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>>90976943
what's worse than breaking a kid's bone? Steven has never accidentally hurt anyone in the show and the gems let him wander the town unsupervised. It's not like he doesn't interact with kids and adults and teenagers on a daily basis. What makes school so different that he'd suddenly be a threat?
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>>90976903
I mean those were all season one eps. Steven does step up when the writers let him.

The Gems keeping him out of school comes across as legitimately insidious. It's like they don't want him to have too much interaction with a species they all kind of hold in contempt.
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>>90976903
He's powers began to activate lets say around the age of 10 to 12 at the start of the show.
Also the main reason they brought him in was because they where sure his powers would activate plus you act like the gems or Greg never teached him anything when they said again and again that he was being homeschooled.
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>>90955733
He can't stop crying because the Gems can't stop molesting him.
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>>90977015
>The Gems keeping him out of school comes across as legitimately insidious. It's like they don't want him to have too much interaction with a species they all kind of hold in contempt.
Especially when he's clearly developed social/mental disorders. Tumblr flat out accepts that he has serious problems in his head. They just like it because they see it as progressive.
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>>90967905
keksimus kekstremicus kekulus kek
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>>90977031
Awwwwwhhhh yeah now where talking.
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>>90977031
Wasn't there a fan theory that Steven is in a special needs program in school and everything that happens in the show is just his warped perception? His dad doesn't "live" with him. The gems are caretakers. Connie is a student that helps out. Lion is the service dog (Steven is special needs) and it gets really dark because the gems are "fusing" when no one is looking and then Connie "fuses" with him and the caretakers encourage it and then Steven "fuses" with amethyst
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>>90975948
damn son
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>>90976995
Going to school is way more likely to put him into direct conflict with someone else, possibly tempting him to abuse his powers. Do you remember bullies and bad teachers? Wandering the town is much less risky by comparison.
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>>90977107
Literally every show in existence has a theory like that.
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>>90977140
So basically, Steven is a danger to society?
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>>90977140
I still think that's a BS excuse, but it doesn't explain why the gems didn't try to set him up with friends instead of having him isolated and alone his whole life. Connie was his first friend and it didn't happen until he was 13.
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>>90976575

Yeah, alright, i can see your point, you're right.

I won't back down on Garnet though, the episode with amethyst that you mentioneded did nothing for Garnet as a character and the rest could be atribuited to either ruby or sapphire or both
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>>90976995
>what's worse than breaking a kid's bone?
Lots of stuff. Actual torment for one. Prolonged bullying. Not just a one-off injury.

>Steven has never accidentally hurt anyone in the show and the gems let him wander the town unsupervised. It's not like he doesn't interact with kids and adults and teenagers on a daily basis. What makes school so different that he'd suddenly be a threat?
The town is quite small, being unsupervised in town is not much and the few times where they DID leave him completely alone DID run the risk of total disaster ie the cat fingers episode, but Garnet was confident he'd come out fine in that episode so presumably she saw he had a good chance of not dying through future vision. But then you have him in a school environment surrounded by easily injured kids and that's just not a risk you can rightly take.
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>>90977107
That's the most retarded theory ever.
I fucking hate seeing that theory for every show under the sun if you legit think that's a good theory your an unimaginative fucking loser.
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>>90977184
>who is Peedee
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>>90977089
Lapiven is best ship.
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>>90977234
>when the smut is drawn better than the actual show

why are the creators so shitty at their job?
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>>90976903
Why is it that everytime we have these threads I can't help but wonder how fucking stupid the writers must be to not notice all these implications? Honestly, how does this shit get approved?
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>>90977190
>the episode with amethyst that you mentioneded did nothing for Garnet as a character
She says literally, out loud, that she feels it is her fault that Amethyst acted the way she did at the end of the episode. And you can see throughout the episode how much Garnet was trying to control Amethyst, and how much that just drove her further into trying as hard as possible to prove herself. It's this dilemma that defines Garnet's leadership trouble and repeats itself, almost exactly, in the episode where Steven tracks down Blue Diamond- Garnet tries as hard as possible to not let Steven go to the pink shrine, which just makes him go anyway. For someone in a reluctant leadership role, that's a big thing and no it does not apply to either Ruby or Sapphire alone, and saying "both" is just nonsense opening up this discussion to pointless semantics of what constitute's Garnets actions on her own or "both" Ruby and Sapphire.
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>>90977222
I miss Peedee he was funny and was a good freind with Steven.
Why cant we have more stuff with him and Steven rather then that cunt Lars?
It would make for better townie eps that's for sure.
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>>90977107
Yes, and SJ is nothing more than a little girl's brain going haywire after being hit in the head with a rock and is now dying on the playground.
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>>90977234
where the fuck is the rest?
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Okay, so what I can gather from this thread, Steven is an emotionally retarded mong, the CG are terrible people, and Connie needs new rolemodels.
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>>90977292
Peedee is a wageslave.
It would be just another boring filler episode.
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>>90977368
Wait, of course they're having a resource crisis, they still need resources to actually make their gems and their technology.

>>90976885
And how is this a plot hole?
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To understand how gems think imagine if you went out in public and just saw people are "things", their face and apperance didnt register a single thing to you besides determing what emotions they were feeling, but its like looking at a chair or wall you simply feel nothing looking at them. As you observe them build things and engage in their culture you dont bother to understand them because they are below you, they are just stupid animals compared to you.
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>>90959789
He'd be a punching bag for the geeks, the stoners, jocks, and the special needs group.
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>>90977408

Not a plothole, but a pretty bad portrayal of gigantism
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>>90977582
She's just slightly taller than Pearl, I'm not seeing the issue.
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>>90977659
Is this a serious question? Aren't most of them giant violent magical monsters in far-off locales and only occasionally wander into Beach City to go after the temple specifically?
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>>90977279
>All that shit

Which could apply to either, the problem with that is that when fusion happens they don't stop being ruby and sapphire and become garnet, its a really weird amalgamation of ruby + sapphire + garnet, they never stop existing so garnet can, ruby and sapphire (like stevonie) talk with eachother and argue and unfuse if they want to, making the characters actions very muddled since it could be either one or both but not garnet or all 3 of them making the decision, making her character either non-existent becouse we never really know whos talking when or irrelevant becouse she could be just ruby + sapphire talking and we wouldn't know the difference
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>>90977715
>Which could apply to either
No it can't. The problem of leadership and the self-sabotage that happens when she tries to keep others in line is uniquely Garnet. Sapphire would be too passive to push someone, Ruby would be too incoherent to try and give orders, and as two separate individuals they can barely muster the authority despite being capable of acting as a united front. Garnet is different; she is intimidating, she has presence, her orders have a weight that's typically carried through with the cool steely confidence that does not characterize Sapphire or Ruby as individuals. And the way that goes against Garnet- when characters feel like they have to live up to her expectations like Amethyst did or decide she's been TOO much in control like Steven did- is nothing Ruby or Sapphire would go up against because Sapphire would be too busy freezing up and Ruby would be too much of a spaz and you even see that happen when they give orders as individuals to sneak into the human zoo, Sapphire had no confidence at all in a single thing she said and could barely keep a straight face and Ruby was being fucking Ruby.

Going "nah nah it's actually ruby and sapphire together garnet is totally dissolved" is nothing more than handwaving on your part.
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>>90976536
Dewey for president
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>>90956007
>Garnet was very detached and more of that cool cousin type for Steven in earlier episodes.
>Now her character is just 2 gays in a trenchcoat.
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>>90977857
The answer is the same reason why gays exist.
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>>90975368
Steven reminds me to the faggot from Assigned Male
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>>90975860
Terrible influence. Connie needs normal friends and a boyfriend with an averaga rate of testosterone
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>>90978120
What, did you want them to use Brawl instead?
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>>90978120
Her hammer hat is still amusing to me
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>>90978120
I don't know man I feel like these are starting to reach.
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>>90972610

>girl magazines give out advice on what to do when your mum fucks up so badly, her enemies consider genocide as a solution
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>>90976433
Left to their own devices, gems mature incredibly slowly while human culture changes rapidly. Why would they bother keeping up with a race that frequently reinvents itself over a span of mere decades?
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>>90976566
>>90976688
He is kind of a retard anon.
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>>90976551
Doesn't this fucking show gets $600,000 per episode
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>>90955733
Because people give the show attention and thus it continues being made. Hopefully it will stop eventually.
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>>90978188
All right, I'll stop. But in my defense, I thought of these less as "pointing out plot holes" and more as "bringing up talking points"
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>>90978229
he's really mature for his age, he has been that way since season 2
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>>90978310
Maybe bring it up in somewhere that isn't a designated hate thread.
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>>90956007
>Garnet was very detached and more of that cool cousin type for Steven in earlier episodes.
>Now her character is just 2 gays in a trenchcoat
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>>90978229
>>90976566
So Steven has like tard streght?
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>>90955733
The show's creator basically has a crying fetish.
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>>90957121
>The polish
Who?
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>>90978364

Tard strength only shows up when a tard is riled up, but Steven is strong all the time regardless of mood so it's just regular strength
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>>90977829
Welp, i can't argue with that, can't say i like being in the wrong though
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>>90956188
>Middle school
Bullied to hell because of how preachy and annoying he is, always coming back home with bruises and eyes red as tomatoes still gushing with tears. Middle school bullies are absolute savages, man.

>high school
People would just call him names, making confused disgusted expressions on their face whenever he does something weird like pic related, and generally avoiding him. Not sure if even the social outcasts would hang out with him either, he'll be a total loner and extremely depressed.
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>>90978409
steven is always retarded though
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>>90977107
BUT THATS JUST A THEORY
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>>90978422
That's alright, we're all wrong about stuff sometimes, it's not a big deal.
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>>90978458
Yet he's not always riled up.
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>>90978470
A GAY THEORY
THANKS FOR WATCHING
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>>90976422

So, all of the CGs are raving lunatics then?

They have all bonded, or attempted to bond, with Steven at some point, and when you get down to brass tacks, Steven is just a human with a gem embedded into his pudgy torso...
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>>90978519
Nah, his gem heritage and the fact that he was birth by someone of high status makes him worth giving the time of day.
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>>90956188
It's ''The dirties'' all over again.
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>>90978458
He is not always retarded, yet he is always gay.
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>>90978726
isn't that the same thing?
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>>90976148
I kind of despise this show right now
Ignoring the way the show butchers its characters, the problem used to be that Steven didn't ask questions, but now the problem is that they won't answer his questions
We got close to actually getting some real fucking answers when he threw a big fuck-you the way of the gems and went to go check out PD's weird gazebo, but that was immediately sidetracked with an overall pointless four (I think) episode fuckfest where we learn fucking nothing of consequence, and he just sort of conveniently forgets about PD upon getting back to Earth so we can have a few more filler episodes. If Lion 4 is absolutely incredible, I'll keep watching the show, but otherwise I think I'm done.

What was it about the show from Jailbreak to Gem Drill that made it so great?
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>>90978593

> his gem heritage

> he was birth by someone of high status

That's nice and all, but it has no bearing on either my comment or the comment I was replying to...

...

(90976422) claimed that Gems didn't interact with humans because Humans were to Gems as Lizards are to Humans...

I pointed out how that is bullshit...

...

Also I'm fairly certain you are wrong...
I'm pretty confident that the main CGs have moments of bonding with a few humans at the very least...

Off the top of my head:

Pearl has Connie, Pink Hair(?), Greg...

Garnet has Mailman guy...

Amethyst has Greg and Onion Mom...
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>>90962889

>He was born with the corpse of his mother embbeded in his belly

thats not how gems work.a gem doesnt die unless its shattered, thats the only way to kill a rock. rose isn't dead, she just shapeshifted into steven to molest little girls like connie by fusing with her.

Rose is a pedofile, she got tired of gregs bitch ass and came up with a plan to fuse the shit out of some random little7 7girls around beach city.
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>>90978844
furthermore, what is even the point of filler episodes when your show airs so rarely and sporadically?
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>>90962749
This is actually the only way to hurt him.
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>>90964587

greg looks like a god damn red hot dog with a god damn beard and bald mullet hair. wtf man?
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>>90956188
>Middle school:
Bullied to hell. Either change schools or end up with chronic depression

>High school:
Mostly ignored, sometimes teased by a few, and laughed behind his back. If he pushes it with the gay shit he'd be mocked by everyone.
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>>90959789
Fuck the turks man.
Even I fucking hate them.
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>>90978877

Working in a carwash out in the open without sunscreen day after day tends to make you look rather red, wondering when will he get skin cancer?
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>>90978869
To justify getting more seasons from the network.

And because it has a loud, rabid fanbase like MLP did, the network will renew it.
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>>90956188
curved stomped or chocked and stuffed into a dirty gym mat
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>>90978985
Ironically it's now starting to backfire. The sol episodes are so bad that even tumblr is admitting the show is starting to get boring. Considering SU regularly doesn't even air some weeks and when it does it's for maybe an hour or two one a single night, it's close to not being renewed.
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>>90978921
>Greg gets skin cancer
>Steven just licks him and makes it goes away
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>>90978844
It went from Steven being an idiot and not asking questions to everyone else being an idiot and not answering
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>>90979113

Sugar said SU will only be 5 seasons and i think they were already paid for, still i think it still gets good ratings so i don't know why they don't air it as much
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>>90956188
He'd be ignored, and if he started crying for no goddamn good reason he'll be treated exactly as he acts: a fucking faggot.
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>>90979170
she said there's big plans for season 5, nothing about it being the last.

if anything she basically confirmed more seasons from the recent podcast interview where she said she has no plans to stop working on the show.
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>>90955733
Reading posts in the thread does anyone actually watch the show or what?

>recent episodes have shown him becoming angry when he would be sad in the past, calling out bullshit the gems have hidden or abuse from others. Still cries a bit but he's a soft kid entering his mid teen years which is a commonly emotional time for humans, let alone a half human, half confused magic rock

>Recent episodes have shown Greg raised Steven a good while after he was born, rarely getting help from the gems and most likely handed him over when he knew raising him in a van wasn't a great plan. Even after building the house he was probably kept out due to Pearls dislike of him.

I can't defend the gems being rather ignorant of Earth culture and human relations despite having continual interaction with them for centuries, especially since Peridot and Lapis adjusted so quickly. That's probably due to bad planning.
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>>90971047

It's anti-tumblr in a way. 4chan is for posting lewd shoulder edits, not coddling snowflakes. It's kind of like a hazing that never ends.
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>>90955898
you expect someone to get this on /co/?
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>>90971224
I think you might be a sociopath, Anon.
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>>90959320
>chinese island cartoons
>any sort of depth past tumblrtale level
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Bogpill me on why people actually still watch Steven Universe
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>>90979442

Oh, i don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing
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>>90979807
Some people still like it.

Others delude themselves into thinking it'll live up to its potential.

Others still are just watching it like a train wreck.
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>>90979807
Stockholm syndrome
waifufags with shit taste
people who don't know good storytelling if hit them in the face
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>>90979444
you're a young man, not in full control of your emotions
shit happens- do you get

irritated
annoyed
drained
emptied
vengeful
devoted
mechanical
hateful
enraged
flat
escapist
avoidant
sadistic
protective
dismissive
tearful < 95% of the fucking show
calculating
fearful
hesitant
melancholy
wistful
manipulative
panicked


Rebecca sugar doesn't know how to develop characters realistically. so Steven doesn't act like a real kid.
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>>90978152
connie doesn't need a boyfriend at all, she's very mature and intelligent with a rich family, she should just live as a bachelorette and not be tied down, especially by the crystal jews and steven the cuck.
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>>90975211
>every character is shit

Gee, who woulda thought a shit show, would have shit characters.
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>>90979905
>people should be alone unless they need money meme.

lol wow.
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>>90955733
Lesbians are horrible parents.
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>>90957175
Raised by rocks
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>>90979444
>Reading posts in the thread does anyone actually watch the show or what?

Nah I'm guessing most anons here are just trying to fit into /co/ they never really watched the show. maybe they saw a few clips and that E.R Review.
So their going to bring up flaws that don't exist and make up plot holes that are already explained.
That's pretty much all I'm seeing in this thread and worrying love for bullying.
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>>90975547
Most of them have stable jobs and relationships.

Hell, even fucking Ronaldo has a girlfirend who loves him.

On the other hand you have girls like Kiki...
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>>90977107
So, Rebecca ripped-off Chris-Chan?
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>>90978384
>the Polish
You mean Pollacks from Kurwaland?
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>>90955733

The Actually Serious Answer (tm): because the show is pushing that it's perfectly fine for men to be emotional.
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>>90981096
The problem is the majority of the world disagree
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>>90979807
I don't know why some of the people who just watch it for the waifus are still trying to defend it as if it's the greatest cartoon on television right now.
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>>90956188
he either would have killed himself in a spectacular show of blood during the next pep rally, or he would have shot up the school
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>>90959789
how do you feel about criminals invading your country and bullying your school children?
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>>90979807
Season 1 was bretty great and I'm still watching it in hopes the creators will "get it" again...
They won't. What a waste of fucking potential.
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>>90956188
My middle and high schools are in Russia, so I think Steven'd be dead somewhere around 14-15.
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>>90980408
>Look up the source
>Study by Mark Regenerous
>Where have I heard that name before...

>The project is funded by conservative think tank the Witherspoon Institute

>The data was so methodologically flawed it was rejected in court

>The study has an extremely tiny sample size of homosexuals who were coupled together from the beginning mixed in with massive numbers of failed heterosexual couples where one of the parents turned out to be homosexual

Anon I think you've been had by a meme image based on a famously faulty study.
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>>90981096
teaching boys to be emotional is basically forcing them to be 4chan users when they're older
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>>90981624
The opposite really, most of you guys are the kind of people who think you have to 'look tough' which is why you all wanted to wear trenchcoats when you were in highschool.
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>>90961904
Different anon, no really, hostile alien powers have violated the planetspace about 3 times. Bet your bottom dollar there'd be military action of some sort if it was here.
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>>90981644
4chan posters are uncomfortable transitional stage between wanting own up the macho persona expected of functional men, but also being sensitive coddled manchildren incapable of being respectable adult males
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>>90981096
>men
Steven is a literal manchild whose appearance reflects his emotional maturity and hasn't changed since he was 10 at best. In fact he seems to have gotten shorter over time.
If it were perfectly fine for "men" to act like Steven, all civilization would collapse within a week.
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>>90957079
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>>90981661

What could the terrestrial militaries even do against aliens who have thousands of years worth of technological advantage not to mention they don't require as much maintenance as human armies do?
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>>90976551
all you succeeded in doing was making me sad at how far this show has fallen since this climax
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>>90955733
>faggot
There you go.
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>>90981568
Anon doesn't give a shit about your (((facts))), you invalid.
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>>90982115
I said we have common sense, i.e. intercepting foreign objects, not that we'd wipe the floor with them.
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>>90975211
>>90975523
How about Yellowtail? Mr Smiley or the pizza restaurant owner?
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>>90977107
In earnest, that's fucking stupid, but we could play around with this.
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>>90956188
Bullied relentlessly by the black kids until the beat him as a group in a bathroom and steal his sandals
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>>90981096
But it's not, not even for women. Emotions are a childish behavior that requires control when you grow up. There's no such thing as emotional skill, so don't even pretend it will help you one day to shit yourpants faster than anybody else.
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>>90956188

He'd be fine, I went a school that specialized in teaching kids that were incredibly bright despite being on the spectrum. Same goes for the town I live in unless he goes south of Downtown.
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He's such an annoying shit
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>>90981644
>this projection
I have not seen a single trenchcoat outside of movies

Maybe leave your suburbs once in a while
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>>90982948

Psychology 101 by dr Anon PhD, now in a bookstore near you
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>>90983098
Anon. It's a common stereotype for a reason. We all know you wished you were the guy from Trigun.
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>>90982086
Greg got a million dollars and is just sitting on it. Can you imagine if every man acted this way? Society would literally collapse
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>>90967905
Is there more?
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>>90955733
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>>90985568
now that is some top notch animation quality
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>>90983154
I was a kid with impeccable taste and I wanted to be a rockstar
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>>90955733
Same syndrome as gravity falls creator, lewdcest to the max kek
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>>90955733
Because snakes don't have arms
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that's his super power
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>>90956188

very bad, he could ended raped or some shit

I am from soutrhamerica and the 90s in my country, it wasn't a good place to live.
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>>90958731

Mierda, eso te convierte en la puta del salón desde el primer día
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>>90963462

>being burger
>knowing only one language

I hope you at least know more than basic arithmetics and USA history, right?
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>>90973316

cuck
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>>90956188
>Middle School
Would transfer in let's say about a month

>High School
He'd be fine. My school was surprisingly chill despite it being in a middle of nowhere hick town.
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>>90955733

Tau (W40K) and Gemworld crossover

>After first contact between the Tau Empire and Gemworld, both sides concluded that working together could help both parties in the long run. Negotiations with the Water Caste and Blue Diamond begin the process of mutual cooperation with both empires. Jaspers auxiliaries aided Fire Warrior and even rivaling with Kroot expertise in close quarter combat. Rose Quarts support role aiding infantry in healing and tactical defense. Amethysts work close with infiltrator teams for recon and harrasment missions. Peridots worked side by side with earth caste engineers creating new technology and automatons.
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>>90955733
I actually like the show Steven Universe, but Steven himself pisses me of so much. It's like, its been 3 seasons, grow the fuck up, the show would be better without you.
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Why can't Karen Page not look like she's about to break down or forget how to breathe?

All good shows have flaws, too bad this doesn't apply to your shitty one.
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>>90956007
>2 gays in a trenchcoat
Excellent porno title and/or band name
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>>90956188
Based entirely on his interactions with the "Cool Kids", fine.
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>>90977292
I remember when people thought that Steven, Peedee, and Connie were going to be a trio of friends or something like that.
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>>90977031
I was hoping this was the edit where she started beating him up
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>>90987944
America doesn't need to learn other languages, we're so important everyone else has to learn our language.

And let me guess, you think you're cultured and intelligent because you know a few things about America (because you follow all of our culture, watch our shows and use our websites) while Americans don't know or care about anything in your country, but if I were to point at some random other country on the globe you wouldn't know jack shit about them.
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>>90956188
I'm sure he would learn to man up enough to passs through my middle school. I'm pretty sure he isn't as autistic as me.

He might have been be ok on high school even as he is now, but might end up being the funny fat bubbly guy friend.

Most people here don't realise how social, friendly and adaptable Steven can be. He'd probably eventually man up and become a normie in a somewhat normal middle/highschool.

>>90971047
It's /co/. Most people here are escapists which had to deal with terrible childhoods. pic related.
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>>90971798
What part of his character would care about nice clothes?
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>>90989206
english isn't your language, it belongs to the english
how about you actually learn an american language if you truly love the place
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>>90990222
Because they fucked the native tribes to death.
>tfw white American whose family only came over after the blood was dry
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>>90978217
>Why would they bother keeping up with a race that frequently reinvents itself over a span of mere decades?
That might be an excuse for culture, but no excuse for knowing nothing about biology or anything.
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Gems keep him out of school, keep him from socializing with most people, and treat him like a gem keeping most of his human element out of the picture.

Its only recently that he started meeting people, and learned a bit about his human family.

Situation is stranger the more you think about it, they just let him play games all day, and train him for war while putting insane expectations on him because they also kinda treat him like their dead leader since they don't get the concept of children.
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Guys, i think im starting to hate steven universe


I still kinda like it but theres a ton of shit that i just cant overlook
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>>90981096
But it's doing it in a completely extremist fashion.

>It's okay for a guy to cry every once awhile
>Steven throws an autistic fit at trivial things
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>>90990719
Does he, or did he?
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Post great Steven moments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdFLHB5dJzY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2vhhyjuuoY
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>>90990699
Welcome to the family, son.
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>>90990737
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da0RtzuCg7s
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>>90981096

Yes its fine and dandy, but the way they use crying is obsessive. Like crying is the only negative emotion they know
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>>90981096
Actually it's because Sugar has a crying fetish.
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>>90982948
>You can't be serious.jpg
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>>90955733
you already answered your own question.

Because he's a faggot.
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>>90982086
>literal manchild
Literal child
FTFY
Use your buzzwords correctly
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>>90982948
People like this guy exist because you kept pushing the "feefees are teh worst thing ever,ya stupid cunt IM RATIONAL (tm)" narrative
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>>90955872
Actually his dad is a pretty good role model.

Also without him the CG would have probably killed Steven early in his life to see if he'd turn back into Rose.
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>>90991154
>pretty good role model.
>he would rather spend his life living in a van than living with his only son
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>>90977107

>>90977205
My feels exactly!!!
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>>90990865
>>90990824
>solving problems in a calm and rational manner is bullshit
>throwing a hissy fit until someone else comes and solves the problem for us is where it's at
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>>90991725
That's not even close to what you said.
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>>90971128
>mfw i was an annoying faggot who did stupid shit but eventually grew out of out on my own without bullying
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>>90990699
Pic related, Samurai Jack just blows SU out of the fucking water. Goddamn.
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>>90985615
It's bad art/character design not animation, since she's still

Just a nitpick but yeah
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>>90991725
boy getting a bit emotional over this eh
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are we on hiatus again? i thought there was an episode due out today
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>>90991864
Yes
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>>90991871
thats gayer than this fucking show
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>>90979807
1- Waifufags.
2- People who still believe it'll get better and stop being shit, but all they're doing is deluding themselves from the obvious.
3- People with shit tastes and autism

I'm saying this as someone who watched Steven Universe from the start all the way to the end of the Human Zoo arc, so fuck off with the "you never watched SU" bullshit, /sug/-fags.
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>>90991912
I'm just confused that you would stick with a show you hated for so long.
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>>90981096
Yes, it's perfectly fine for men to have emotions and even cry when something truly sad happens, but Steven always cries and preaches about everything in the most flamboyant and annoying manner.

It's like they've written him as if he was a girl character, it makes sense for /some/ teenage girls to be this way, but not a nearly 15-year-old faggot who has the literal mentality of an 8-year-old.
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>>90955733
He's just in character. Remember lads, his favorite show is "Crying Breakfast Friends!"
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>>90991937
I didn't hate it for long, bro.

I liked it at first, then it started being an extreme roller-coaster of quality, and then I stuck with it until the Human Zoo arc and was met with yet even more Townie episodes.

I have dropped the show and no longer like it /now/, I didn't hate it for long, so look for some other excuse.
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>>90991937
>lol how can you know it's bad if you don't watch it
>lol why do you watch it if it's bad?
kindly go and jump of a cliff
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>>90991974
My bad for misunderstanding you, I'm much the same. The show peaked in season one for me and it has declined a lot since then.

>>90991978
He said he watched through to season 4 retard.
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>>90956188
he will be bullied for 3 years and then stop, next we will drink some beers i guess
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>>90989341
>That pic
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>>90983102
Except SU is just about "Letting ,like,out your emotions man" and doesn't bother with the fact the finding a way to deal with emotions is a fundamental part of life.

Then again , Sugar seems like a upper clase , spoiled girl , so she probably never learned to deal with her emotions andman she just breaks down whenever
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>>90990731
Yes, all the damn time
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>>90959932
khe:v
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>>90992718
What are the recent examples?
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>>90992679
Acknowledging your emotions is the first step to dealing with them. That was the whole point of mindful education.
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>>90985568
the fuck happened to animation
>>
Son, you got yourself a woman problem. How I know is they've been plaguing me my whole life. What's the joke? Can't live with them, can't turn them into cat food. Personally, I don't see the value in all that talking and the mood swings and the lack of rational thinking, which, brother, your bitch has got that in spades. See, the male of the species has got the potential for greatness. Look at your kings of old. Napoleon, Kublai Khan, Samson. Giants made of muscle and steel. But these women, even in those Bible movies, you see a Delilah and, uh, Scheherazade. I want to tell you my own private belief here. I think Satan is a woman. Think about it.
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>>90991978
More like "Why cant you just let go of a thing you tried and openly admitted that it wasnt your cup of tea" ?
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>>90991725
>But it's not, not even for women. Emotions are a childish behavior that requires control when you grow up. There's no such thing as emotional skill, so don't even pretend it will help you one day to shit yourpants faster than anybody else.
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>>90955733
He's a pussy raised by neurotic, abusive lesbians and a worthless deadbeat dad. It's really not a surprise that he borders on feral.
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>>90979133
>Greg gets skin cancer
>on his penis
>in his urethra
>Steven has to suck him off to cure him
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>>90971047
I have been bullying people like you all my life why stop now?
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>>90955733
because he is written by pussy ass progressives who love forced drama.
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>>90990222

lol, >>90989206

rekt
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>>90955733
Crying heals.

He's a healer.

Get it?
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>>90996576
but he has healing spit. shouldn't he be drooling on everything instead?
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>>90975419
>Waiting for the true heroes to arrive and save the day... but destroying everything
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>>90956188
Beatan to death by niggers
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>>90992723
That's not how you pronounce Esteban
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>>90956188
He's be mercilessly bullied while being held down and sucked off in the girls bathroom
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>>90996594
>but he has healing spit
Only when the writers feel it's convenient.
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>>90956188
Went to Bronx science, the chinks would rip him apart.
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>>90956188
His only friends would have been the losers that talked about loser shit in class in front of other kids. I was one of the dorky socially awkward kids, but there was a good-sized group of 20 or so of us, and he wouldn't have even fit in with us. He would've been one of the kids WE made fun of.
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>>90998261
Damn, sounds like my high school.
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I feel half the post in this thread are from people who haven't seen the show

>Greg isn't there for Steven and has others rise his kid

Steven has Magic Gem Powers that Greg knows nothing about and only the Gems can train him

Any time Steven wants to talk Greg is always there for him even if he has no idea how to help he's there for emotional support
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>>90956188
he'd do fine

steven gets along well with other teens in the series
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>>90975948
>middle eastern girl is radicalized by illegal aliens and culturally enriches a fellow student
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>>90975948

But India isn't part of the Middle East, and the gems aren't illegal aliens because they were there first. It's like calling Native Americans illegal aliens.

Still keked though.
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>>90997043
>He's be mercilessly bullied while being held down and sucked off in the girls bathroom
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>>90991661
>he would rather spend his life living in a van than be quietly murdered by the Crystal Gems
FTFY, because you know Pearl would've if push came to shove back in the day.
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WHERE THE FUCK IS LION 4
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>>90999785
we /hiatus/ now
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>>90999874
say that it aint so
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>>90956188

I went to a mostly Asian, academic-focused high school and even there he wouldn't fit in.

He'd mostly be ignored while being messed with by the boys occasionally.
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>>90997043
I wish I'd gone to your school.
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>>90998769
I just mildy wish greg couldve lived with him with the gems. Fuck that "pearl is salty shit" thats his kid, they have no right to separate them


>>90999874

Damnyou just gave me a blast from the past with that gif
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>>90999874
BUT I WILL NEVER LET GO
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>>90955733
Because he's based off of Rebecca Sugar's little brother Steven Sugar, and that's how she saw him as a kid, somewhat of a crybaby. It's kind of cute tbqh.
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>>90999874
CLIFF HANGER
HANGING FROM A CLIFF

AND THAT'S WHY HE'S CALLED CLIFF HANGER
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>>90981096
If I wanted that I'd fucking watch Fist of the North Star instead
>>
>See this thread.
>Recognise half of the posters here.

>>90996702
>Whoever wins, we lose.
Good trope.

>>90977354
TrashTrash or Dude-Doodle-Do.

Could I bring up another critical flaw?
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>>90977971
then explain why people say being gays isn't a choice
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>>90975211
>>onion the asshole
his dickish traits are played for humorous effects though
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>>90976551
and the show steadily declined ever since
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