/swco/ - Star Wars Comics & Cartoons

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What is she, /swco/?

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when you make the new thread first but forget the subject
also
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>>90923981
Too late!

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>>90923958
>>90923918
win

>>90924020
I deleted one of them at least

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>>90923958
Stuff you wish the rebels had in star wars rebels

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>>90924057
Think we'll get a rebels episode based off this battle?

>>90924057
>[DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING]
fuuuck bring back raddus filoni

just marathoned the prequels, first time I've watched them in a few years
they aren't as bad as people claim they are
AOTC suffers from some pacing issues, Jar Jar is a big problem in TPM but those don't make them unwatchable
and ROTS' last third is absolutely amazing

>tfw the people who work at Lucasfilm aren't autistic enough to make us a webpage that has a canon map of the galaxy showing things like sectors or regions of the clone wars and every month hold a story group meeting where they figure out where planets shown in recent media go on that map

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>>90924119

>>90924057
I wonder who is firing the Ghost's dorsal turret

>>90924197
>we are on a diplomatic mission

>>90924170
welcome back to the winning team

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>>90924119
>>90924211

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>there are still Jedi sympathizers in this thread.

Have you listened to nothing Sheev told you?

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>>90924119
this thread is now under the control of the rebel alliance

>>90924057
Every time I see the Ghost in this movie, I squeal a bit

It is just so surreal

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>>90924017
They just lifted scenes from ANH for his cameo didn't they?

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>>90924119
>>90924211
>>90924251
Needs more Technicals.

>>90924088
I don't care what anyone says about this movie, this scene is fucking glorious.

>>90924282
They used some stuff that never made it into ANH for Red and Gold Leaders.

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>>90924230
the "diplomatic immunity" police pullover bullshitting excuse is tolerable, but I still dislike that continuity

>>90924274
yes please

>>90924282
actually they touched up unused archival footage that was planned for ANH but never made it off the cutting room floor, and managed to get the original actor for Gold Leader to voice new lines

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>>90924288

>>90924149
Filoni just said something along the lines "We've been thinking about it for a while, it depends if we can get a story worth showing"

But he didn't completely shut it down, so I am thinking there is a very solid chance that we'll see it

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>>90924317
>>90924312
>>90924282
I wanna post this image again because its funny, even though I liked the cameo and it was excellently integrated

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>>90924361
>People bitch about things being put into movies to sell toys
>No toys of Red Leader and Gold Leader

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>>90924173
my gift to you

>>90924361
>to sell toys
I hate this meme so much, its the laziest criticism you can slap onto something, almost certain its a plinkett thing

99% of the time someone says this shit, there isn't even a toy, period

>Ezra's Slingshot? No toy
>Spinsabers? No spinning toy, even though they made one a few years prior.
>Maul? Only just got a new toy the year he got killed off again, over half a decade after his resurrection
>The Rogue One cameos? No toys.

Gee, it's almost like Lucasfilm does these things because they want to do cool shit, and Hasbro's merchandising comes much later in production

/rant

>>90924197

that little moment where vader looks over to the vacuum of space captures the original inspiration and purpose for his helmet as something he would wear for space walks.

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>>90924448
buddy there are hardly any toys of x-wings or y wings any more, and we have yet to get any toys of Dornean gunships, the MC75 Profundity, Nebulon Bs, Hammerhead corvettes, etc etc

>>90924220
AP-5 while singing his heart out.

>>90924512
Those micromachines look comfy

>>90924476
Yeah but I want one with the sectors and canon Clone Wars and Civil War info. I've found a few showing Expansion Region, Mid Rim, and Outer Rim sectors but I can't find any for the center of the galaxy.

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>>90924476
>Unknown Regions

FTL has existed for literally thousands of years and there's still "unknown regions" in the galaxy?

>>90924512
>Boba Fett's Slave I
ACHKSHUALLEEE, It belonged to JANGO FETT, and later acquired by Hondo, who repainted it in his colors, only for Boba to later steal back.

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>>90924512
>(Chicken Walker)

>>90924609
Would you try and get to the new world in a
dinghy across the Atlantic ocean with no map?

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>>90924593
they are comfy

even the entire font and packaging design for galoob products was comfy

someone should draw little pink anime cuteness "uguu" lines over this

>>90924609
i had the same thought, its just like they looked outward galactic west and said "fuck it"

>>90924646
Not bad for something that's pretty much a glorified law enforcement vehicle

>>90924609
It's unknown in the sense that they've been charted but no government has had the time or resources to actually find civilizations in that region and integrate them into the greater galaxy. Think South America when people were taking spices and whatnot from the continent but nobody had really found much of the natives or attempted to bring civilization or Christianity to them yet.

>>90924601
I'm not sure if the core is actually split into sectors.

>>90924502
I never picked up on that, but damned if I don't have the biggest goofy grin on my face right now.

>>90924750
Also theres the notion of designated and safe hyperspace lanes. The known galaxy is basically all connected by freeways and surface streets in hyperspace dimension. The Unknown Regions essentially have no reliable, known, paved roads. Sure you can try taking your truck off-road, but do you really want to wind up in The Hills Have Eyes land?

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>>90924288
well it works.

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>>90924823
I'm pretty sure it is since some maps show the sectors but don't name them.

>>90924502
>Cape billowing

He ain't in a vacuum.

>>90924860
>>90924476
>yfw Scarif and Tatooine are connected by a hyperlane
They thought of everything

>>90924057
man, that space battle is on point.
one of the best in the series thinking back on it.

>>90924910
Route 66 between Alamogordo and Yuma.

>>90924502
wouldn't there just be a one way force field? or some thing some thing dark side

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>>90924872
Damn right it works. Toyotas make the best battle wagons.

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>>90924889
>Planets don't have names
What's the point then

>>90925029
I'm just being figurative. Alamogordo was where the development of the nuclear bomb was accomplished, and Scarif was where they figured out the Death Star laser. Yuma - literally the filming location for Tatooine in ANH.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4QOpYMsFXQ

How much of this can you watch?

>>90925129
one look at the title and I closed the tab

so that would be 00:00

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>>90924119
this bad boy

>>90925129
>Still photoshopped picture of a guy bouncing around to a voiceover
>"After suffering through three horrendous prequels..."

And stopped.

>>90925129
The thumbnail made me cringe

>>90925127
Yeah, it made sense. I guess my Tarkin pic made it seem like I was doubting, I was going for more of a "well I hadn't thought of it that way"

>>90924889
Kessel Sector is best sector.
Better map: http://www.swgalaxymap.com/

>>90924609
FTL as we know it didn't exist in SW for over 1,000 years. Also, do you have any idea how massive a galaxy is? 5,000 prior the inner rim was considered a massive colonization project. Jesus this is not legends anymore

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>>90924057
>watching a tie fighter blow some thing up

>>90924609
the unknown regions are hard to navigate because of anomalies and shit, supposedly.

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>>90925378
>Scarif is still in the wrong spot

>>90925378
the chiss ascendancy needs to come back.

>>90924609
The galaxy is big. Understand the scale
Some areas arent worth the time and effort to chart out in detail
That area is full of anomalies and shit that make detailed charting difficult

>>90925129
I've seen this before so I immediately closed it once I saw what it was. 0 seconds.

Has he ever addressed how terribly wrong he is even with just laughing it off, or has he gone the ignore it route?

>>90925681
It has according to the Thrawn book

>>90925752
>ESB ranked highest
ultimate normie opinion discarded

>>90925752
V>VI>RO>IV>III>I>VII>II

fight me irl

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>>90925752
>II above I
>VII above anything

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>>90925752

>>90925752
I like all of the movies about the same
Superior opinion coming through

>>90924170

Pretty much.

AOTC would be a lot better if the dialogue had another round or so of revisions and the final battle was compressed a bit. The droid factory really needs to be tightened up a lot, as does the second part of the arena fight (the part where the droids and the Jedi all show up and everything gets crazy). Both sequences go on far too long and have too many shots that just don't serve a purpose.

Revenge of the Sith's final third is the best part, but the first two thirds are pretty great too.

>>90925717
fuck yeah

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>>90924609
That's what happens when you erase an EU that explained why almost constant warfare with a militant faction bent on your destruction might suddenly cause a drop in galactic exploration projects in lieu of, say, defending your known worlds from being enslaved and then having to spent dosh to rebuild what got fucked up. Without all that lore, it just looks like the "sort of maybe half the galactic Galactic Republic" was just lazy as shit at going west.

>>90925752
I still haven't seen Rogue One.

I just can't muster the energy to give a fuck about it. Maybe on its own terms it's a decent movie, I don't know, but to me it embodies everything stupid about how Star Wars has been handled.

I used to love a lot of expanded universe stuff, but as time goes on the less I care about anything that's not the original three movies. I realize that's not a popular opinion in this thread, and I still like some parts of the cartoons and comics else I wouldn't be here.

>>90925752
>ESB #1
'no'

>TFA above anything
'no'

>>90925811
THIS

>>90925835
Find me a problem with II that isn't related to Anakin and Padme.

>>90925752
V>RO>VI>IV>VII>III>I>II

>>90925811
>>90926028
What is your #1?

>>90926040
The Geonosis factory and arena battle scenes drag on way too long. Also why the fuck is Jango Fett working for the Separatists when he's the template for the Republic army?

>>90925865
who let the plebs out
who
who
who

>>90926040
you mean about half the movie, more even?

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>>90924448

You were saying?

>>90926040
Thank you for supporting II.
When I do my rankings, it's usually equal to I. I don't understand how anyone can think the Anakin and Padme scenes are any worse than the "it's a kids movie" content from episode I.

>>90926076
ROTJ, and ROTS are bot acceptable patrician answers

ANH is "that guy", but still more acceptable over "LE ESB IS DA BEST, DATS DA "LUKE, I AM YOUR FATHER" ONE RIGHT? XD"

Rogue One, TPM and AOTC are contrarian. (I don't hate them, quite the contrary actually, but I cant see how they can justifiably be called the best)

TFA is "I'm a little girl and Rey is awesome because she is a girl!!1!" tier

>>90926149
You haven't showed me a Gold Leader toy.

>>90926157
honestly, the anakin and padme stuff is so fucking bad, the small quantity of it in 3 almost made the entire movie as bad as 2.

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>>90925752

If by that you mean IV > III > VI > V > RO > I > II > VII, then yes.

>>90926193
>he doesn't understand why people like ESB
You poor thing.

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>>90926149
>both Gold and Red Leader never see play
>the only acceptable X-wing in the game called X-wing is fucking Biggs

>>90926096
>arena battle scenes drag on way too long.
fuck you, the arena battle is great.

> Also why the fuck is Jango Fett working for the Separatists when he's the template for the Republic army

...because that's his job? He's a bounty hunter. He's a hired gun.

>>90925752
VI>V>RO>III>IV>I>II>VII
\________ ________/ |
\/ |
Love Like (acompanied by hope that VIII & IX will retroactively make it better)

>>90926261
Oh I do, its a fantastic well-crafted movie.

But it's also sadly overrated and put on a ridiculous pedestal by normies.

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>>90926206

Let me give you a better look at that.

I hate the "to sell toys" meme too, it's just that Garven Dreis and "Dutch" Vander are both in X-Wing, and RO's space battle is practically designed to get X-Wing players' dicks hard

>>90926193
>ROTS
>best
are we ranking the movies, or is this a contrarian contest?
ANH, ESB and RO are the only ones without glaring fuckups, so only one of those three deserves top spot.

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>>90926329
This is what that was supposed to look like

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>>90925129
Holy shit, he couldn't have been more BTFO

>>90924170
the sound the medical droid makes while padme is giving birth will be stuck in my head forever

oooobaaaah oooobaah

>>90926400
You used regular spaces didn't you?

>>90926381
>thinks ROTJ and ROTS aren't just as good Star Wars movies, if not better, than those three.

You must unlearn, what you have learned.

>>90926381
ESB has the worst plothole in the whole saga, the never explained timeskip and the non-ftl interstellar travel.

>>90926449
I did.

>>90926352
Overrated and put on a pedestal? Maybe.

But it's still by far the best Star Wars movie in my opinion.

>>90926007
Holy shit. How do you breath being so retarded?

>>90926381
ANH is a fucking snorefest

ESB is good and RO is alright

ROTS is objectively kino

>>90926381
>ESB
>No glaring fuck-ups
>Time magic has to be used to explain Luke's training going on with all the shit on Bespin

Worst plot hole in the franchise.

>>90926076
A New Hope is the cutest and Empire Strikes Back is the most dull.

Revenge of the Sith is the best of the OT.

>>90926498
>non-ftl interstellar travel.
You mean from Hoth to Bespin?

>>90926585
You mean PT, right?

>>90926585
>Revenge of the Sith is the best of the OT
wut?

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>>90926518
Blow me, shill. Give a nucanon explanation for why the shit the west is an unknown after literally thousands of years or kys.

>>90926635
hold on I gotta go commit sepukku

I've always wondered this, if a Star Destroyer (or really any ship for that matter) flew into a planet at hyperspeed, would the impact be catastrophic in the way the dinosaur asteroid was?

>>90926502
You shouldn't.

>>90926517
Fair enough.

If it wasn't so painfully overrated, I'd be less antagonistic against it. I feel like it's not THAT much better than most other movies in the series, and equally important or impactful moments can be found in other movies.

I feel like the reason its put on a huge pedestal is because it's the only one that makes the Empire "badass", and has the big Vader twist, so people latched onto it.

I'm honestly not even convinced it's the most well made movie in the series objectively, but plenty of people would disagree with me there.

>>90926670
The ship's safety pulls you out of hyperspace when you get a certain distance near a large mass

>>90926498
as bad as:
Jar Jar Binks' Kiddie Adventure
Cringefest: the Movie
Cringefest2: Delayed meme mine
The empire gets defeated by Ewoks
ANH, but worse

>>90924476
wait is Starkiller Base built out of Ilum? That was always my headcanon but I never knew if it was true or not

>>90924476
>Separatist movement started near the galactic north east likely on Serenno
>Clone Wars began with the Separatists controlling the galactic north east (other than the Corporate Sector who stayed neutral while supplying both sides) all the way down to the galactic south east near Geonosis with a little bit of area near the center at Cato Nemoidia
>first year of the war saw the Republic fight for planets close to the center like Rodia while preparing to take the galactic south east using the Ryloth rebellion. They take Hutt Space too which is part of this campaign to take the galactic south east back
>second year of the war the Republic takes Ryloth and cuts the Separatists in 3 by taking the galactic south east at the Second Battle of Geonosis
>after this the Separatists near Geonosis fled to the galactic south near Mustafar
>the third year of the war the Republic begins prioritizing the galactic north east with the Battle of Onderon
>fourth year of the war the Republic is still preparing to take the galactic north east where the Separatist capital is with the Battle of Mandalore
>All of a sudden the Separatists desperately try and take Coruscant because they fear an imminent takeover of Serenno. SPECULATION BEGINS HERE: They likely team up with the Separatists of the galactic center to blitzkrieg attack Republic space stations at jump points in between Serenno and Coruscant. After a few days of battle (while the Jedi are desperately planning the Seige of Mandalore with Ahsoka and Bo Katan) the Separatists are able to amass a massive fleet to go across the Hydian Way (likely gaining more ships with each consecutive jump) until they reach Coruscant.
>When this fleet is destroyed the Separatists likely only have a very tiny fleet near Serenno's sector and their area in the galactic south in which General Grevious sends their leaders to hide in Utapau and Mustafar

>>90926605
Yes. I know there are some stupid retcons to that, but those are just retcons, with no indication in the movie that any of that was what the authors wanted to convey.

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>>90926749
>The empire gets defeated by Ewoks

>>90926731
was Zahn the first one to come up with that

>>90926749
I want RLM-babbies to leave

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>>90926776
>war ends with Vader's mission to Mustafar but after the formation of the Empire some Separatists reactivate their fleets and flee to the Corporate Sector who likely fears the Socialist aspects of the Empire
>Tarkin and Vader then lead attacks on remaining Separatist holdouts in the Western Reaches of the galactic south
>the Separatists are finally left with a very tiny fleet in the Corporate Sector. The Corporate Sector helps these Separatists along with Saw Gererra's rebel cell oppose the Empire while remaining it's own intety
>after the Empire is destabilized at the Battle of Endor the Separatists in the Corporate Sector decide to form the New Separatist Union while some systems in the Corporate Sector possibly leave to form the Confederacy of Corporate Systems SPECULATION ENDS HERE
>mfw I'm so autistic I now understand the geopolitical history of Star Wars by looking at a map for 5 seconds

>>90926689
I see that now.

>>90926040
> Dooku mostly wasted besides his pleading with Obi scene & a semi good duel.
> Most of the Effects & especially the CGI room interiors look like fucking shit compared to the more practical effects heavy E1.

>>90926766
There's no confirmation they're the same. I think it's implied but nothing concrete yet.

>>90926650
Which source states that extremely fast hyperspace travel was a thing for thousands of years?

>>90926749
None of those is a plothole.

>>90925752
> Empire = RO > 77 > Jedi = TFA >>>> Phantom > Clone = Sith

>>90926727
>equally important or impactful moments can be found in other movies.
It's not about importance so much as execution and general finesse. It's a very well-conceived and directed film, regardless of whether or not you like Star Wars. It's a resounding stylistic and thematic success. The Empire being badass and the Vader twist, while very memorable and surely a big part of the movie's reputation, are really just symptoms of what makes the movie really work.

>>90926727
I'd say Rogue One does a good job at making the Empire badass.

Individual Troopers are still a joke but the swarms of them fucking destroyed the rebels on Scarif.

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>>90926749
>this normie taste
>ROTJ is bad because of the Ewoks
>TPM is bad because Jar Jar was in it for 20 minutes
>AOTC and ROTC are "cringy"

>>90926193
> Rogue One, TPM and AOTC are contrarian
Fuck you for putting them in the same league.
There is not a god damn thing of note wrong with RO in anyway.

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>>90927017
>Calling it '77 instead of A New Hope

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>>90926650
it's good to know AraxussYexyr has fans

>>90926040
they had Christopher fucking Lee and he's barely in it

>>90927088
I never said there was m8

>>90926731
no but what if they turned the safety off and intentionally hit the planet, what would happen?

>>90926936
no, those are glaring fuckups. all of them have plotholes.

>>90926866
That's probably a bait but eh.
Vast majority of interiors is practical in all the movies, with green screen only for windows.

>>90927144
A New Hope had Peter fucking Cushing and he's barely in it

>>90927091
But RLM told me it wasn't called A New Hope until the 2011 blu ray editions! Before that it was called 'GEORGE LUCAS' THE STAR WARS 1977' and had scenes of Kyle Katarn stealing the Death Star plans that were taken out in the special edition!

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ITT: EU characters only you like

>>90927185
None of the other plotholes that supposedly exist but you can't find them is as retarded and as large as the TESB one.

REEE STOP HAVING DIFFERENT OPINIONS THAN MINE REEEE

why can't you guys just enjoy the movies you like and not have a meltdown when someone doesn't like them

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>>90927252
He's technically canon but nothing he did outside of the movie is. Hell I don't even know if his name is actually canon

>>90927200
True, but he leaves a lasting fucking impression in those few minutes. If I didn't know Christopher Lee from other things, I wouldn't be that impressed with him from just seeing Dooku.

>>90927252
I wish Gizor Delso was still canon.

Rebels had a perfect opportunity to make it happen.

>>90926727
There is also the notable factors of giving us a truly morally grey Star Wars film with a cast made up of entirely flawed characters.
In the original trilogy Han alone was flawed but in a fun bantery way. In R1 we have genuine murderers to follow and they make us sympthize with them despite it.
Not just the Vader moment but the entire ending from the Destroyers crashing into each other onward is just executed flawlessly. The score for that sequence is among the most beautiful tracks I have ever heard on film.

>>90926650
>>90927100
I wonder if he's made a picture of normal-shaped-head, no-irises Thrawn shooting Rebels Thrawn.

That said, I'm not going to bother trying to find out.

>>90927299
Because they often have dumb opinions based off straw man versions of the movies. These movies don't need strawmen to look bad. They already have shitty dialogue and tons of scenes where cgi or green screens aren't integrated well.

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>>90927412
>These movies don't need strawmen to look bad.

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>>90927252
The idea that some guy named Xim the Despot once controlled a portion of the galaxy intrigues me

>>90926670
Likely, judging by the Malevolence

https://youtu.be/Q7X2EHBGZHQ?t=3m10s

>>90927406
I kinda like how Rebels Thrawn looks but I also like the legends version of the Chiss

I like everything, I like Star Wars

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>>90927508

>>90927412
>something something cgi

opinion fucking discarded because you have no idea what you're actually talking about. RLM isn't the fucking gospel, kiddo

>>90927252

I crushed intensely on Cheriss when I read Starfighters of Adumar as a kid.

>>90927406
Nah, he hasn't made snuff art about canon stuff since 2015

>>90926846
>the droids actually rose again

LONG LIVE THE CONFEDERACY!

>>90927406
Now I've got a mental image of canon-Thrawn reading Zahn's books about legends-Thrawn and praising it as good art.

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>>90927252
dass Jennifer has a is better story them kanan

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>>90927508
pic related

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>>90927794
THAT'S CUTE

>>90927515
wait so why bother building a Death Star if the laser took 20 years or whatever? Why not just make it shoot out ships at hyperspeed into a planet?

>>90923958
>Literally The Exact Same Design Edition
Yes and?

>>90927580
>>90927813
Hivemind? Or coordinated Assualt?

>>90927952
See the last 50+ posts of the previous thread

I believe people who say ESB is the best SW movie only watched it once or twice. Dagobah is boring as fuck. Han and Leia hanging out in space has some character development but it doesn't flow well for rewatches. Not being contrarian, it's a good movie but vastly overrated because the bad guys won I guess.

>>90928133
I love Dagobah and I love ESB but I cannot trust that anybody who says it's their favorite movie, and especially people who rank ROTJ (the ACTUAL best movie) low can possibly have a mature legitimate opinion that was not formulated for the express purpose of impressing others.

I do have a friend who legitimately likes it best but he gave actual reasons for it beyond "its dark and gritty and the empire is badass and vader is lukes father," those are all important things in the franchise but they're not the end all, be all of Star Wars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJTsQEoIcvA

>>90928133
>I believe people who say ESB is the best SW movie only watched it once or twice.
I've watched it more than any movie in the series, and it's still my favorite.

>>90927507
>>90927583
I like the movies but you have to admit for some scenes the dialogue was legitimately bad (POOWWWAAAAAHHHHHH UNLIMITED POOOOOOWWWAAAAAAHHHHH) and the cgi characters interacting with real people looked weird and took me out of the movies (Qui-Gon tackling Jar Jar, Dexter's diner).

>>90928133
I've found myself rewatching it the most out of all the films, and if you think people only like it because the bad guys won (even though Luke got away and Vader fucked up his mission so not really) then you must be reading articles written by idiots because that has no impact on the quality of the film at all. It's both the best written and directed movie in the series, and also gave us the most memorable characters and moments in the series.

The movie is considered to be the best in the series by most people for a reason, dude. It's because it's a good movie. You may not like it, but that doesn't mean people who do like it are wrong.

>>90927508
>Xim
>Xer
Hello Wendig.

>>90928369
prequel fanboys won't admit any flaw in the movies exist, there's always an explanation for the plot holes (sheev was behind it all) and the bad acting (you just don't get it) and the CGI ("wow such an original and unique criticism")

>>90928371
It's not that we dislike the movie, it's quite good, but it's put on a pedestal because it's critically labelled as "artistic" so it gets a shitload of fairweather fanboyism by vapid disingenuous people who pretend to like it to fit in. How many normal people actually like Jackson Pollock for his art as opposed to liking it because we're told to like it?

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What characters deserved better?

>>90928428
You just don't get it

>>90924476

>Raxus/Serenno seem to be an important Separatist axis politically.
>'Ahead' of it is the Celanon to Taldot line where the foundry of the Condederacy vaguely is.
>Behind are the Zygerrians and Corporate Sector.
>Overlayed are the megacorps.
>Lots of underdeveloped or impoverished space between the notable systems, and Republic loyalists dotted in and around.

In both aims and sensibilities the north east feel distinct and a diverse collection of interests, from the Western Reaches and Colonies Seppies.

>>90928369
>thinking the "unlimited power" line was bad
m8

m8 come on

come on

m8

>>90928428
What "plotholes" can't be chalked up to Sheev, then?

>>90928428
Most people who like, or even LOVE the prequels admit they're flawed.

It's the OT purists who don't admit flaws of their favorite movies.

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>>90928496
go away i dont want you on my side

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>>90928428
>CGI is bad because it's fake
>Paintings are fine because I was a kid when these movies happened

>>90928410

Kek + mind blown.

>>90928511
if him getting captured by Grevious at the beginning of ROTS was his plan, was all of the near-death experiences Anakin had while he was rescuing him also part of said plan? Because if everything went according to plan, why would Anakin narrowly escaping getting crushed to death by an elevator be part of that fucking plan

>>90928528
>that jagged line where the lighting suddenly shifts

damn thats bad. Not to mention how fake the shuttle and most of the hangar looks

>>90928583
are you dense? it was to train him to do flips in order to attain the high ground

>>90928369
Sheev's lines and McDiarmid's scenery chewing were easily some of the rare good things in Revenge of the Sith. I'm not going to tell you it's great, but I'm glad it's there.

>>90928410
then whats xizor?

>>90928528
>>90928604
I love the prequels cgi but I love the matte paintings more, and I think you're mistaking jagged lighting for the shuttles reflection on the glossy hangar floor

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>>90928651
>rare good things in Revenge of the Sith
Most of the movie was phenomenal

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what did this show up in?

>>90928730
first appeared in Truce At Bakura (a VERY shit book) then appeared in Star Wars Rebels as an Imperial light carrier stolen by the Rebels over Ryloth

>>90928730
That one episode that everyone hates

>>90928235
>>90928444
>but it's put on a pedestal because it's critically labelled as "artistic" so it gets a shitload of fairweather fanboyism by vapid disingenuous people who pretend to like it to fit in
People do that with everything. Who cares? I've still watched it tons of times and think it's the best. There's a reason why that label exists and has persisted.

The reality is that there are sincere fans that don't bother with, or aren't good at, expressing their opinions. This goes for all kinds of stuff. Assuming a lack of sincerity is lazy and doesn't serve anything other than dismissal.

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my ship wife is made from a giant dead bug

>>90928730
that's Pizza the Hutt's cruiser you fucking casual

>>90928583
None of this is a plot hole, but I'll respond anyways

>was all of the near-death experiences Anakin had while he was rescuing him also part of said plan?
No, that just came about in the craziness of the battle and rescue.

>>90928689
>but I love the matte paintings more,
I don't, the vast majority of them look flat as fuck and/or bad and/or fake. Sometimes all 3.

>and I think you're mistaking jagged lighting for the shuttles reflection on the glossy hangar floor

I'm not, there's a very clear jagged line towards the middle of the right-hand side of the webm that stretches down the entire image starting at the shuttle. The floor suddenly goes from dark black to a much lighter, fake-looking black

>>90924017

>disgusting cgi

>>90928844

Perverse

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>>90929124

if you have a problem with rebels, you think star wars is more complicated than it actually is.

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Have you guys seen this fankino?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk0bRElYuXk

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>>90929154

>>90928528
>he doesn't like practical

>>90929138
>French Terrorist kills 300 military men and women leaving many orphaned children.

What is your favorite special effect?

>>90929182
Yeah it's actually one of the best star wars tributes i've ever seen

>>90927508
he got fucked up by the Hutts in EU.
They pretty much came up with space piracy and used it to cripple him.

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>>90929262
the entirety of the battle of endor, nothing matches it to this day, including rogue one, and that's disregarding the fact that Rogue One had it easy with CGI whereas in ROTJ they had to do it all practical

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_620998213&feature=iv&src_vid=xPZigWFyK2o&v=94rlYxLd1Qg

>>90929262
Mustafar in Revenge of the Sith was created using a fuckhuge practical miniature with a pump system for Lava. Then covered with groundbreaking CGI effects, and footage of an actual exploding volcano that Lucas sent a team to film.

It is simply the most impressive work of art I have ever seen, and criminally underrated.

Coupled with John Williams magnum opus soundtrack, and the absolutely phenomenal choreography that Ewan and Hayden practiced daily for months, and you have the greatest display of special effects in the franchise.

Anybody who posts the looped gif of the sabers spinning can choke on a Hutt's cock, it detracts nothing from the absolute work of art that was on display.

>>90929357
>ROTJ they had to do it all practical
Anon, that was one of the first major uses of bluescreen in Hollywood...

>>90929138
i like how the cruiser just sat there and did nothing.
>Huh, there's a Tie Bomber floating towards us.
>It looks so pretty

>>90929479

>smartass who doesn't know the context of the situation

>>90929479
typical rebels

>>90929435
No, Star Wars 1977 was, how the fuck do you think they did all the space scenes? It's all blue screen in the OT, but there's a difference between digitally inserting shit in and painstakingly creating a practical composite effect. The Battle of Endor is and remains the single most complicated special effects achievement in cinematic history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvDlg1My0Cc

>>90924017
Why do the Rebels have so many fatass pilots?

>>90926507
>>90926564
>>90926620
Some questions I have, since I've only watched RO once, and only just now.

Why did the second SD get so fucked up with the disabled SD being pushed into it? It still had its shields. Why didn't the SDs fuck up some of the Rebel captial ships? It didn't seem like they did much of anything, considering how powerful they are supposed to be. Why weren't there more TIEs present? It's not until after the Death Star and Darth Vader's SD show up that any real damage is done to the Rebel fleet.

>>90929262
Yoda's puppet.

>>90929318
Hurts being a race of warriors in the EU still baffles me

>>90929533
I see. I wont deny the battle and effects are amazing, but you shouldn't discredit the skill and effort it takes to create CGI effects too.

>>90929533
>TIEs magically clipping through the Falcon
Is this movie magic?

>>90929262
the shot of the Falcon and Wedge's X-Wing going into the Death Star II still impresses me to this day. It's like Lucas was like, "oh you guys thought the trench run was impressive? haha you are like little baby, watch this" and put that shot in

but if we're including the new films probably the lightsaber duel in TFA. The combination of the lighting (I know they put lights in the blades on set but they still had to enhance the shit out of them with CGI) as well as the particle effects from Kylo's lightsaber is just so fucking great visually

>>90929574
We see the shield gate have a hangar spew out a shitload of TIE's, furthermore, there's probably not any amount of shield power that can combat the inertia of another star destroyer. in ESB they were being destroyed by colliding with asteroids.

>>90929602
I'm not saying cgi doesn't take a lot of work, Rogue One's is impeccable and the prequel trilogy is nothing to laugh at either, but the near flawless accomplishment of the Battle of Endor with such primitive tools is simply breathtaking and unparalleled.

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What are some good fan films?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHYLraOs7Z4

>>90929403
>It is simply the most impressive work of art I have ever seen

have you only seen one movie in your life? I can understand liking the sequence and I'm not ragging on you for that, but the most impressive work of art you've ever seen? Even more so than marble sculptures that were done by hand? I mean, jesus dude, I really can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not

>>90929830
I really really like that sequence

>>90929574
>Why did the second SD get so fucked up with the disabled SD being pushed into it? It still had its shields.
Shields ain't gonna do much when another ship of the same size collides with you. Just like in ESB

>Why didn't the SDs fuck up some of the Rebel captial ships? It didn't seem like they did much of anything, considering how powerful they are supposed to be.

They were panicking from the large number of Rebel ships that just jumped it.They did fire at some points during the battle IIRC but they were too unprepared to really do much.


>Why weren't there more TIEs present?

there were a shitton that came from the shield gate but they were likely destroyed by Rebel ships/fighters

>>90929830
There are people who think Mass Effect 3, signed urinals, and shitting on statues of the virgin mary are the most impressive works of art they've ever seen, so I really don't think it's fair to criticize the opinion of someone extolling something as art that actually deserves that appellation.

>>90929929
>just like in ESB
oh shit that's right I forgot when the Milennium Falcon tricks like three of those fuckers moving in opposite directions towards each other to scrape against each other

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>>90929830
>but the most impressive work of art you've ever seen?
It is a masterpiece visually.

>Even more so than marble sculptures that were done by hand?
He's talking about art relative to filmmaking you idiot.

> I mean, jesus dude, I really can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not
He's pretty clearly not.

>>90930054
Basically this

>>9093005
That really does look phenomenal

>>90929682
>>90929929
Hmm, good points. I guess its just another case of Imperials being really shit at basic military tactics. They are painted up as being a nigh insurmountable force, but every time we see them fight, both as ground troops or in space, with the sole exception of ESB's Hoth battle, the Imperial forces keep coming up short. Its amazing that the Rebellion didn't get shit accomplished before ANH, before the Death Star became a thing.

>>90930219
Whoops meant for >>90930054

>>90930243
Hubris and bluffing.

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>>90930529
I don't really care for the turbotank in comparison to all the other cool GCW era vehicles around, but I found that shot to be the most perfectly shot scene in the movie, reminded me of MacLeach's truck in The Rescuers Down Under

>>90927178
It would end your day real quick.

>>90929138
Light Cruisers have been jobbing worse than the Gazanti's lately.

The more I think about the Partisans the more I love them. A team of ultra hardened mercs, freedom fighters, terrorists, and psychopaths who even the Empire fears--now that's a premise!

>>90924088
I like how the two star destroyers early on weren't firing at all but when Vader shows up the crew actually know their ship is covered in guns.

>>90930529
Is Rogue One the best amalgamation of Star Wars eras so far?

>>90930837
I am hype for Inferno Squad.

>>90930529
Never thought I'd get giddy over a vehicle but seeing this from ROTS used by the Empire was pretty cool.

>>90930837
>be psychopath who just really likes killing people
>join up with Partisans to get to do it all day every day
>don't even get your civilian casualties mentioned, let alone critiqued, as long as you hit the Imps

I never realized this. Were any of them nutcases only there to kill people?

>>90930343
but this decries the idea of a rag-tag group of rebels holding out against a superior foe. Stormtroopers are shitty soldiers, they have shitty equipment, TIEs are shitty fighter-craft, and the Imperial Navy won't arrange their ships to not be literally right next to each other, as well as being terrible at their jobs. Its amazing that the Empire lasted a few years, let alone twenty or so.

>>90923958
>that image

will never cease to not trigger my autism

>>90930921
It's a galaxy wide rebellion, of course there were people like that. There's already folks like that in the regular militaries IRL

Did Bor Gullet die in the destruction of Jedha, or did it escape on the ships?

>>90931166
I don't think that thing moves fast enough for an escape

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>>90927252

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>>90929182
Fun fact: Episode V is the climax of the entire saga, and the moment when it switches focus from Anakin to Luke

Search your feelings as you gaze upon old Hamill, an aged and weathered reflection of the child his father was when this great story began.

>>90925129
I have this deep fasination with Matpat theories they are so wrong on many levels that you need to have talent for it to be so wrong.
Federation is Fascist is stil my "favorite".
Also his jokes are just shity.

>>90927252
Do other people like Bao Dur?

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>>90928456

>>90930975
you just described the soviet union and that unholy beast lasted 74 years

>>90931418
>the moment when it switches focus from Anakin to Luke
but that's wrong, ROTJ has the most focus on Anakin as a character out of the entire OT and is the literal climax of his redemption arc

>>90931047
it was a shitposting image I made at the end of the last thread to trigger an autist who was arguing the point unironically

>>90931166
>>90931178
F

>>90929182
This might be my new favorite. My fav(s) up 'til now:
https://youtu.be/Boe3Hf4uIL8
https://youtu.be/kY0j9SUdOKU

>>90931752
I have my issues with the Machete Order, but some of the points the guy brings up are interesting. For instance, the idea that IV & V are Luke's story, I-III are Anakin's, and VI is the conclusion of both of them.

>>90931992
the final redpill is that its all anakins story

>>90931992
I hate how often Machete Order gets recommended to people who've never seen a Star War

>>90924149
Rebels will end with them showing up at the rebel base right before you see the ghost parked in front of the base

Or like this anon said
>>990924359

>>90931992
You can look at RotJ that way with the prequels in mind, of course, but the OT alone mostly uses Vader as a way of exploring Luke. This was true even before Vader was made Anakin.

Even RotJ has always felt like Luke's story to me.

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>>90932162
I showed my sister the movies for the first time in Machete order when I was younger and easily impressionable, thinking that the Machete Order had somehow saved Star Wars

She awkwardly told me before starting ROTJ how she hated having to jump around, and it kinda ruined it all for her, and she would have liked to just watch them in order

I fucked up /swco/, I am so sorry

>>90932162
yeah seriously, the only acceptable recommendation for someone who's never seen them is release order. If you have them watch Episode I first they'll refuse to go any further, if you have them watch Episode II after Empire Strikes Back? May as well tell them to drink orange juice after brushing their teeth. The only non-release order I think would work is OT and then Episode 7, with the prequels if they want to watch those too.

people forget about "machete" order where you don't exclude episode 1

4, 5, 1, 2, 3, 6

>>90932302
Vader was basically just a normal science fiction villain in A New Hope, it wasn't until Empire where he became something bigger.

The whole notion of him being the chosen one and space jesus wasn't a thing until TPM, and I'm positive Lucas only made it that way because it was the easiest way to write his downfall by making it a prophecy.

Read the Secret History of Star Wars by Michael Kaminski. He was given access to pretty much every draft of Lucas's scripts and outlines/notes from the 70s onward, including prequel stuff. You can tell how Lucas pretty much made it up as he went along.

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>I will mend this Old Wound.
The only way this showdown could be more poetic is if Maul was vertically bisected and fell down a canyon.

>>90932435
>You can tell how Lucas pretty much made it up as he went along.
you mean like a draft?

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We're only a few years away from Episode IX being released. How will you feel when the Anakin Saga ends?

>>90929182
This here parody remains objectively the greatest starwars fankino yet made
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEcjgJSqSRU

>>90932435
>Vader was basically just a normal science fiction villain in A New Hope, it wasn't until Empire where he became something bigger.
Mostly, but even in the original movie he was a darker counterpart to Luke, a potential path he could take. He, like Luke, was once Obi-Wan's student and a Jedi. He's mostly just an evil black knight, but the parallel is still there and it's part of why cannibalizing Anakin into Darth Vader worked as well as it did.

The Chosen One plot was a pretty stupid addition to the story and completely needless. Though, really, the prequels in general were unnecessary even if there was room for them to be interesting.

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>>90932609
>Though, really, the prequels in general were unnecessary even if there was room for them to be interesting.

>>90930864
yeah, if every star destroyer just went at it like that , this would be a short rebellion

>>90932322
>If you have them watch Episode I first they'll refuse to go any further
Complete and utter bollocks

Anybody unexposed to Star Wars will enjoy TPM and absolutely want to continue. There are plenty of cases of people watching chronologically for the first time online. Check them out.

>>90932315
Has she watched them in order since?

>>90932705
nope.

She watched TFA and thought it was "just ok", and has no interest in watching any more Star Wars

For what its worth, her favorite movies seemed to be ESB followed by ROTS, with her favorite scenes being the Yoda ones on Dagobah

>>90932674
Here's hoping Thrawn pulls this on Saturday.

Is it bad if a new hope is my favourite star wars movie, followed by Rogue One?

>>90932697
>Anybody unexposed to Star Wars will enjoy TPM and absolutely want to continue
I agree. Most people who complain about TPM, their biggest complaint is that it's "not Star Warsy." Someone going in with no expectations isn't going to have such a hangup.

>>90932846
I don't see why it should.

>>90932846
Yes. Yes, it's very bad. Now go sit in the corner and be ashamed.

>>90932846
Wanna know a secret? There is no wrong answer to what your favorite star wars movie is. Unless it's episode two. Then you're actually wrong.

>>90932670
The OT tells us everything we need to know for the story. The prequels didn't fill in any gaps that needed to be filled. Even Anakin's story was implicitly touched on with Luke's development operating as a kind of surrogate. Luke just made a different choice and threw away his lightsaber whereas Anakin ended up becoming Darth Vader.

Like I said, there was room for the prequels to still tell an interesting story (even if I don't think that they do). But I don't think the OT demanded them, though, and I still don't think it benefited from their existence. If you think they justify their existence more power to you, though.

>>90932984
if by episode 2 you mean empire strikes back then yes

>>90933003
how is it possible to have such a trite and fallacious opinion?

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>>90932984
Episode two is my favourite because it's so bad it's unintentionally fucking hilarious

and that ytp a cloen man is attacking fucking cracks me up

>>90932984
>Unless it's episode VII
ftfy

>>90924088
That scene where the rebel transport just eats it gets me every time, like butter being cut by a hot knife.

>>90929720
The only fan-film that hasn't made me cringe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djo_91jN3Pk

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>>90924274
No you are now in the power of Stardust.

Rabbit waifu bondage is okay too

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>>90933646
Jyn's death was super not wizard

>>90926620
RIP Hammerhead Crew

>>90933735
It did demonstrate the complete mastery of rays over all other forms of life and warfare though.

>>90932562
Nah, Lucas has been saying for years that he's had everything planned out since the beginning (even after shit like Leia suddenly being Luke's sister even after they kissed in the previous film) when in reality his plans for the story were changing constantly. At one point there were going to be 12 films, and the Emperor wasn't going to be introduced until Episode 9. It's pretty interesting, you can find the pdf online p easily

>>90926620
Why did Rogue One, a movie that was more or less made to be a companion piece to the first Star Wars movie, have way more unique and amazing shit like this than The Force Awakens, a movie set in a distant future from the first movie?

>>90933900
This is honestly even bleaker than EVERYONE DIES for me. Right when she's on the verge of finally seeing her father again, after all these years, he gets blown up. By the Alliance, too.

>>90933938
Because JJ is a hack without a creative bone in his body

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>>90933938
As shitty as it is, the Force Awakens had to prove that a star wars movie would make money

and JJ is a fucking hack

>>90933938
JJ doesn't even understand Star Trek, he admitted it. Why they gave him Star Wars, I will never know.

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Dumb question:

How does Krennics cape stay on?

>>90933938
https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/808761766771494918

>Prequels, originals, Clone Wars, Rebels. Rogue One takes inspiration & elements from all because these storytellers don't categorize.

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/819439785517297664

>Since R1 was entirely Lucasfilm, there was more opportunities.

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/819441338731012097

>@pablohidalgo what do you mean? TFA wasn't entirely LucasFilm, you mean like BadRobot?

>@austinlipskey32 Yep. It was a co-production.

>>90933862
I've heard this line before and no matter how many times it's repeated it doesn't hold up to scrutiny. I've been reading about it for ages but frankly it reads like those trashy tabloid style tell-all exposés about the secret dark sexual perversions of famous stars from "close acquaintances" who have little or no verifiable connection with the source of their claim. It's simply schlocky revisionism that became popular when it became popular to deride George Lucas (the prequels).

>>90934038
Because he turned Star Trek into an audition tape for doing Star Wars.

>>90934112
It's probably attached to his collar directly by some kind of clasp or snap-fastener.

Which means he can dramatically throw it off if he wants.

>>90934136
>It was a co-production

Why was that allowed to happen?

>>90932984
Attack of the Clones is genuinely a terrible movie and is a masterclass in how not to make a film. It somehow gets everything wrong, but unlike other bad movies like Batman and Robin, it's dull as shit, so it's not even worth watching in a so-bad-it's-good way.

>>90933003
I agree. Not only were they unnecessary in general, the fact that they were a trilogy just made more room for Lucas to fuck up. The Phantom Menace is completely irrelevant to the OT (aside from stupid shit like Anakin building C-3PO), and Attack of the Clones works as an attempt to show Anakin's gradual turn to the dark side, but even that fails because he's already angsty and an asshole in this movie.

If Lucas really wanted to make a prequel, it could have easily been done in 1 movie. Set it right after the Clone Wars. Show Anakin as a decorated pilot who has this weird obsession with perfection, constantly augmenting himself after injuries during battles. He keeps pushing himself physically throughout the film, and the Darth Vader suit is basically built around him piece by piece until his duel with Obi-Wan at the end which isn't as over the top as in RotS and instead focuses on their emotions rather than spectacle. Anakin meets the Emperor early on, and he slowly corrupts him and turns him to the dark side. Luke and Leia are newborns. Maybe Lars Beru is Obi-Wan's brother or half-brother like in the Return of the Jedi novelization. No Yoda, either, since he wouldn't add anything to the overall story of Anakin's downfall and it's better introducing him for the first time in Empire.

Lucas wrote himself into a corner by making ANH Episode IV, so I guess Episode II could be 10 years later and about Obi-Wan on Tatooine being a Man With No Name type, and Episode III could just be Rogue One I guess idk

Something good that came of JJ's self-aggrandizing with TFA, is that it really rubbed LSG, and by extension Disney, the wrong way. They've been subtly bashing him for months (as far as they can without lambasting their own product) and now all of a sudden Abrams says he's "going independent" and wants to do "something original" with a fucking zombie film? Sounds to me more like he's been soft blacklisted by Disney at the behest of LSG.

>>90934260
how is it that it rubbed disney the wrong way? TFA was very successful for them.

>>90934238
you wasted a hell of a lot of text on a terrible uninformed post

and George Lucas put "Episode IV" in the second release of ANH in 1978.

>>90934238
I wish that Darth wasn't a title, and just a name that Anakin made up for his new persona.