Secret Empire 0 Spoilers

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And in Secret Empire, we see, through the death of a thousand cuts, how a democratic republic falls from within to a fascist interloper within. How human weakness, expressed through recent issues, leads to this conclusion. And how it all neatly fits together drawn and assembled with a deft hand.

So here’s a spoiler. One spoiler. That I hope will tease rather than spoil. Intrigue, be something to think about and chew over. and maybe even increase interest. I know my interest was piqued after encountering it.

We know that Kobik, the Cosmic Cube made human, changed Steve Rogers to make him happier, but her experience with the Red Skull convinced her that making him an agent of Hydra was the way to do that. And rather than just change his brain, she changed reality. Things happened in a different fashion. Captain America, Steve Rogers, was always a sleeper agent of Hydra since a young boy. And in Secret Empire #0, we understand how that was literally.

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As it is revealed that the Marvel Universe naturally has Hydra at its head. That it was only the Allies using the Cosmic Cube that saw them change reality so that the Allies won and not Hitler.

It’s a rather wonderful take on the classic “what if” trope, “What if Hitler won the war?”. Secret Empire has it that he did win. And Hydra ran his coattails. That the Marvel Universe is just “what if Hitler didn’t win the war”?

And so the Captain America of then is hidden in a spiritual fashion, sleeping, ready to emerge when Kobik woill one day remake Captain America and make what happens in the past possible, and then restoring him with all his memories of both versions of himself, but now, and forever, the Hydra version of Captain America. The snake eats its own tail. Cause and effect and reversed. And a perfect loop is drawn.

>>90923124
>That Spider-Man variant
>Implying he would ever go Hydra
hahahahahah

>>90923154

The way Rich the Leech is decribing this isn't a tease it's just fucking confusing.

What happens now is yours to discover. But damn, I thought that was good.

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/03/21/as-secret-empire-0-full-previews-get-sent-to-retailers-one-big-marvel-universe-spoiler/

TL;DR- In The MU , The Holocaust literally didn't happen

>>90923208
So Magneto is a liar?

>>90923208
god i hate marvel

>>90923093
Steve exercising his right to bare arms might catch on!

>>90923250
>As it is revealed that the Marvel Universe naturally has Hydra at its head. That it was only the Allies using the Cosmic Cube that saw them change reality so that the Allies won and not Hitler.

>>90923208
God this is fucking stupid.

>>90923093
>It's Spencer completely rips off Mark Millar episode and readers are too new to know

>>90923208
This...is actually retarded

>>90923093
The marvel universe and the hitler verse arent the real universes.

The real marvel universe is the retro one with legacies shown on generations.

>>90923093
somebody activate the scanbrosignal!

>>90923587
If this did already go out to retailers, I imagine we will see scans in a few days.

>>90923208
Happy 100th Anniversary Jack Kirby!!!

So,Civil War 2 was Minority Report, and Secret Empire is Man in the High Castle? Will the next event be Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said, or A Scanner Darkly? Or Maybe We Can Remember It for You Wholesale?

>>90923738
OHHHHH SHOOT ME SHIEF, A RING DONG DING DANDY.....

>>90923124
No lie, that Star-Lord looks pretty sweet.

>>90923909
Well, this is a new and strange way to troll a person. I don't understand your ways or what you're trying to say, but you do you.

>>90923208
>In The MU , The Holocaust literally didn't happen

How do you get that?

>>90923180
Thats Spock not peter

>>90923154
I think that the allies winning via a cosmic cube may be another retcon introduced by Kobik. Rich is probably just being a sensationalist as usual.

>>90923208
I like when my comic book stories are based off the real world.

>>90923738
Wouldn't Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said be House of M to some extent?

>>90924087
Rich is fucking illiterate

>>90923738
Blade Runner 2 is coming out soon, though. Get ready for Robits: The Marvel Event.

>>90925060
I'd be excited if it was the triumphant return of Rom: Spaceknight.

>>90925398
Nah, Age of Ultron 2: Robotic Boogaloo. This time with even less Ultron.

>>90925060
>Blade Runner 2 is coming out soon, though. Get ready for Robits: The Marvel Event.
Everyone one is LMDs?

>>90923093
>The FOC date for Secret Empire #0 has been pushed to March 27th. The comic comes out on April 19th. The release is to encourage retailers to increase their orders based on what they read.
are they really that desperate?

>>90925594
>turns out the Wolverine that died was actually an LMD the whole time
>Get ready to find out what super secret mission Wolverine was on to save the entire Marvel multiverse and why he couldn't tell anyone about it!

>>90925532
Alkhema is due for a comeback.

>>90925594
Honestly, I'd probably be down for it if involved the return of the Livewires, though.

>>90925697
>Ask me about my Feminist Robotic Agenda.

>>90925594
They can always bring the Livewires back.

>>90923124
>And in Secret Empire, we see, through the death of a thousand cuts, how a democratic republic falls from within to a fascist interloper within. How human weakness, expressed through recent issues, leads to this conclusion. And how it all neatly fits together drawn and assembled with a deft hand.
Fuck off

>>90923154
>As it is revealed that the Marvel Universe naturally has Hydra at its head. That it was only the Allies using the Cosmic Cube that saw them change reality so that the Allies won and not Hitler.
Literally /pol/ the comic

>>90923180
He's already made a deal with the devil.

>>90923738
A Scanner Darkly is the audience.

>>90923124
Who is the second one?

>>90929651
>firebird motif

Totally Jean Grey

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>>90923250
He's a hypocrite.

So now that we know retailers have the issue, this begs the question: will we see the return of scanbro soon?

>>90923124
I can't believe Marvel is still this butthurt about Trump.

>>90930174
You have not even begun to see the extent of liberal America's butthurt over Trump.

>>90923124
>And in Secret Empire, we see, through the death of a thousand cuts, how a democratic republic falls from within to a fascist interloper within. How human weakness, expressed through recent issues, leads to this conclusion. And how it all neatly fits together drawn and assembled with a deft hand.
SUBTLETRUMP... I mean TRUMPLETY

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>>90925672

>>90923124


subtle.

>>90930174
You know, not everything is about Trump.

You really have to be insecure to think that.

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>>90930174
I think a lot of comic companies are. It stopped all the shitty blank meets the female president issues.

>>90930865
Comics, Movies, TV shows pretty much everyone

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>>90923738
Somebody called the "War Thor" just got teased....wonder where they got that from?

>>90923124
>panther
>hydra
Heh.
Doesn't that make him an Uncle Tom?

>>90931913

F

>>90923738
What was Secret Wars? VALIS?

>>90923192
I think it's more Rich half-assedly stating that rather than have Secret Empire feature a real life civil war in America in terms of blue states vs red states with red states supportig Hydra and blue states representing SJW shitlords, Hydra Cap is going to just reality warp the entire world to make it pro-Hydra.

Basically House of M but with a handful of street heroes/SJW not being affected by the reality warp. Also, the possibility that they are going to pussy out on the world finding out Steve is Hydra by having the reveal come out after the reality warp happens and everyone chalking it up to the reality warp.

I for one like this direction, because I like Helmut Zemo and the Red Skull.

>>90930865
They kinda prepared Carol as Captain Marvel, Mockingbird and Fem-Thor as Hillary stand-ins.

In another forum someone asked: "Why isn't Marvel pushing Monica as Captain Marvel?"

Because she doesn't look like Hillary.

They would've pushed Valeria Richards along the other blondes but Fox has the right to those movies. So, no. they invented Nadia.

>>90930614
Wasn't Spencer tweeting photos of the airport protests?

He hates the guy.

>>90936167
I find it odd that a creative person would be interested in politics to the point they obsess about it. It's almost as if he is not interested in his profession, as if it's just a prop for his ego.

Nick, you are supposed to be using your imagination to create entertaining stories. You're a comic book writer, not a politician.

>>90937215
Didn't he try to run for some gov role in some state?

>>90937893
Badly if I remember what I read correctly.

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>>90936167
And then the Left turned on him hard.

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Is there a bingo card for this event yet?

>>90937996
That reply doesn't even make sense. Not that I expect anything more from a Twittertard, but wow.

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>>90938024

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>>90938054
They crazy, man.

>>90938054
That's because Nick's reply is so retarded that it's almost impossible to respond to.

He's saying he can't be racist because he's being paid to write about a fictional black guy.

Whether you think Nick is racist or not, he's absolutely fuckawful at debating this or any point.

Wasn't MARVEL trying to backtrack "Hydra are not nazis" just the other day?

>>90937996
The left never liked him to begin with. Nick is totally the kind of faggot who posts #resist content and reblogs anti-Trump stuff because he wants to be cool and rebellious, not because he actually agrees with any of it. This is a guy who was praised and reblogged by Richard Spencer, remember.

Nick isn't left or right, he's an attention whore who will dance for whichever side gives him the most validation..

>>90930174
This event was planned back when Trump becoming President was considered laughable.

>>90938372
no that was /co/ and some parts of tumblr

>>90938361
He is writing about a black guy fighting against corrupt police.

Considering Jack Kirby actually served in WW2, this twist seems in really poor taste...

>>90923208
>The Holocaust literally didn't happen
/pol/ going to have field day

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>>90938703
>>90939116
>>90923208
>>90923651
>meanwhile, DC has the Kamandi Challenge, BUG: The Adventures of Forager, and Giffen refusing to let OMAC die

Good lord.

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>>90923093
These are your new rulers, would you bend the knee?

>>90939477
Is that the real Kraken or just Nick Fury's brother again? I'm hated that twist. Hickman is a hack.

>>90939499
It's probably the real Kraken brought back to life this time. He's been showing up in Captain Hydra's flashbacks, helping him "become the man he is meant to be".
I'm guessing we have either Kobik, The Hand or Arnim Zola to thank for his return

>>90939477
And keep a knife in my boot.

>>90932833
Just a hotep

>>90939477
whos the Viking RoboCop?

>>90936106
>In another forum someone asked: "Why isn't Marvel pushing Monica as Captain Marvel?"

>Because she doesn't look like Hillary.

Also because Carol is a much better character than Monica.

>>90940223
Kraken. A big shot Hydra agent that got old, got murdered by Nick Fury's Zodiac brother, and then had his identity stolen by said brother.

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>>90923208
Just like real life!

>>90923154
This is... surprisingly not retarded and finally makes what we saw of Steve's memories and his self-conscience consistent.

>>90930614

Oh boy. You have no idea, do you?

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/mar/22/kong-skull-island-why-do-hollywood-blockbusters-have-such-trump-like-politics

>>90940665

Wait, I thought the point of Kraken was that it was a title, not the man. Didn't anyone wearing the helmet become Kraken, or something?

>>90941892
It wasn't a title. It was a man that then someone else impersonated.

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>>90938024
we need a few more

>>90942666
>someone says 'well that was anti-climatic'

>>90942666
>Bigger than the Annihilation Wave
This makes my blood boil worse than anything else the Bendis-types ever wrote.

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>>90942666
>Donald Trump reference
>A hero dies and stays dead by the end of the event
>Somebody in Hydra betrays Steve
>"Hydra isn't racist"
Also, maybe we should use pic related format. It's what we used for the Civil War II and IvX Bingos. We just need somebody with edit skills to put stuff around it. I think somebody already did one once, but desuarchive doesn't save any images from that time.

>>90942666
I predict some kind of Champions shove-in, by which I mean they shove in the Champions in some random scene to remind people they exist.