Why is DC doing all these bizarre crossovers lately? Do they

>>90865789
>Who are they supposed to appeal to?
Bizzaro crowd cause of the bizzare crossovers.

>>90865789
>Bizzare

Batman/Shadow makes perfect sense. A for demographic theres a ton of people who like both GL and Star Trek, Batman and TMNR,Gotham Academy and Lumberjanes, etc. Plus I imagine creators like to write/draw them.

>>90865789
Why do you give a shit?

>>90865789
Cause it's fucking cool dude

>>90865899
GA/Lumberjanes was probably the smartest one because you know there are some of those types who are probably hesitant to get into capeshit. I remember seeing people on twitter saying why didn't anyone tell them Gotham Academy wasn't just a book about white kids, which of course is sadly missing the point since their races aren't the important thing there but regardless it publicizes the franchise and maybe gets them to buy the trades later.

>>90865927
because it's weird and I don't get the rationale behind it

>>90865789
>Why is DC doing all these bizarre crossovers lately?
If they can, why not?

>Do they need money?
DC likes money, yes.

Who are they supposed to appeal to?
Fans of both properties. That should be obvious.

>>90865789
>Do they need money?
Yes, they're literally weeks away from shutting down

>>90866016
>>90865789
People like crossovers, there isn't anything more about it. Stop sperging over it.

>>90865899
>Batman/Shadow makes perfect sense

Like 40 years ago maybe
This is literally just going to be Batman (aka Snyder) virtue signalling the Shadow as a problematic old white man from a bygone era and how superior he is.

>>90866025
I don't think the Shadow has fans under the age of dead.

>>90866003
>Gotham Academy

I thought the lead girl was some non WASP ethnicity

>>90866016
For the op pic, its Batman meeting one of the characters who influenced his creation. Pretty obvious rationale.

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>>90866003
>people on twitter saying why didn't anyone tell them Gotham Academy wasn't just a book about white kids

>>90866063
>This is literally just going to be Batman (aka Snyder) virtue signalling the Shadow as a problematic old white man from a bygone era and how superior he is.
The fuck, dude?

/pol/ fucked your ability to make sense.

>>90866093
> meeting one of the characters who influenced his creation.

We don't talk about that and DC sure as fuck will not acknowledge it if they know what's good for them.

>>90866120
you know it will happen
The Shadow is at least getting sent to Arkham probably, DC cannot allow a character like that to exist in the current climate

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>>90866063
>>90866083
Not liking the Shadow.
GET OUT

>>90866154
>literally to unintelligent to know how to greentext

>>90866123
Going to see Zorro is a part of almost every Batman origin.

Of course they'll acknowledge it. Its the whole reason people are looking forward to it.

>>90865789
>Who are they supposed to appeal to?
The fans, you absolute stick-in-the-mud

>>90866181
This isn't Zorro though?
Also who's looking forward to it? Batman's many fans don't give a shit what obscure characters may or may not have influenced him 80 years ago and has no bearing on the character today.

>>90866180
literally to intelligent to greentext.
ftfy

>>90866215
Why do you care?
You don't have to buy it if you're not interested. People that are interested will buy it and enjoy it.

>>90866063
Buddy The Shadow was a legit SJW character for his time. He had a nigger henchman who was tough and smart, in an era where all black characters were bad guys, a woman, a Chinese woman and otherwise was always hanging around Chinese immigrants and abroad and boasting the skill and wisdom of Asia. If anything Marvel or DC should be pushing that motherfucker today harder than ever as proof superheroes have always been leftist and I suspect the only thing that stops them is how he put villains and criminals six feet under all the time.

>>90865789
>Who are they supposed to appeal to?
Me, I suppose.

I bought all issues of Green Lantern/Star Trek and am planned to do the same with this crossovers.

Don't know if DC is gaining much money with it. The comics are usually published under the other publisher.

>>90866215
Batman has always been Zorro+The Shadow. He's integral to the 'dark and stealthy vigilante ' gimmick thats the bedrock of the character.

Just because you're uneducated on it doesn't mean it isnt a major influence.

>>90866323
>He's integral to the 'dark and stealthy vigilante ' gimmick thats the bedrock of the character.

Those prehistoric characters stopped being relevant the day Batman put the guns down and stopped murdering people.

>>90866003
Anyone who thinks "urgh, white people, no way!" can stay out of my hobby; quite happy without them.

>>90866003
GA has the dual problem of the name making people think it'll be something like 'Batman Babies', but without it no one would care.

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>>90866359
did you just awaken from a coma?

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The only version of Batman that would make any sense teaming up with The Shadow would be Burton's.
All the others would try to arrest him and let the villains run amok the whole time.

>>90866090
Yeah and she's only there on a scholarship too but there are people who heard the name and didn't bother to even research the cover because they assume the worst of capeshit

>>90866359
They are dumb but no dumber than characterfags. Maybe they'll accidentally read a good story and learn something.

>>90866316
Yeah, the pulps could be surprisingly diverse, and progressive . The Spider, a Shadow knock off, had a Hindu man servant that kicked a lot of ass, and when his Fiancé wasn't playing damsel, she'd sometimes dress up as The Spider.

>>90865789
its not even the first Batman-The Shadow crossover

>>90866353
The 'strike fear into the heart of criminals' deal comes from The Shadow. The dark urban landscape comes from The Shadow. Being stealthy comes from The Shadow.

His influence is still felt without the guns.

>>90866509
You're being ridiculous. All of that shit would've been a part of Batman whether some obscure character influenced him or not.

>>90866490
Don't forget Mandrake and Lothar.

>>90866531
The Shadow is one of the most successful long running characters in fiction. He's nowhere unknown.

>>90866595
ahahahahaahha

>>90866323
You forgot doc savage.

In fact doc savage is the only influenc DC never likes to talk about. It's funny since both Superman and Batman were really influenced by both

>>90866149
You're literally retarded.

>>90866531
Where would it have come from then? It didnt spring fully formed out of Finger and Kane's minds, popular things influenced them because they wanted Batman to be popular. So they stuck two popular characters (Zorro+The Shadow) together and added a Bat motif.

>>90866509
>The dark urban landscape comes from The Shadow. Being stealthy comes from The Shadow.
Both are standard pulp stuff. The shadow as a huge influnce but let's not pretend that wasnt the norm in the post mafia world

>>90866403
I'm well aware, just getting it out there every once in a while to let these people know it's not and never will be fair game. Racist shits.

>>90866469
>no dumber than characterfags
I emphatically disagree.

>>90866149
It's not DC's character, it's Dynamite's. And Red Hood, Deathstroke, Lobo and the Suicide Squad all kill people and are depicted as the 'good' guys, so I'm not sure why you'd think they'd shit on The Shadow.

>>90866717
It may bother you more but it is the same result in the end: people limiting their entertainment choices based on a stupid premise.

>>90866149
>DC cannot allow a character like that to exist in the current climate
Deathstroke is literally an old white dude who has sex with teenagers and kills for a living. DC has no problem publishing him.

>>90866624
https://youtu.be/uMlRpN8ANrU

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>>90866149
Nigga u is retarded

>>90866664
There's no actual proof to this. It's just an industry urban legend circulated by a tiny number of people with a chip on their shoulder about Kane (coughcoughSterankocough).

>>90867117
There enough proof to prove that early Batman stories were ripped straight from the Shadow down to copying art.

Finger even admitted that a lot of it was ripped off.

>>90867227
No proof. All the evidence is circumstantial.

>>90867227
>>>90867117
>There enough proof to prove that early Batman stories were ripped straight from the Shadow

No

>down to copying art.

Yes

>>90867285
what did you mean by this?

http://www.dialbforblog.com/archives/390/

literally who the fuck under the age of 105 knows who the shadow is much less was sitting around waiting for him to crossover with Batman

like who the actual fuck was at DC and said hey you know what crossover needs to happen, let's hae our most popular character team up with a literal who from 100 years ago that nobody who is interested in our characters knows or gives a shit about, gee wizz that sounds like a recipe for success

DC's fucking retarded and it's no wonder they hemorrhage money compared to Marvel

>>90867569
Are all Marveldrones this dumb or you are a special snowflake of autism?

>>90867569
its good if you care for comics, which is something you clearly do not

>>90867705
I think it's both.

>>90867569
Well the suits at the upper levels of DC are probably older men who are nostalgic for The Shadow so decided to collaborate with Dynamite for this. This reeks of passion project kind of thing regardless of how it will undoubtedly flop.

>>90867792
>it will undoubtedly flop
The only joy in a mousefag's life.

>>90867851
Nice delusion buddy

>>90867863
Too late to backpedal, anon.

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>>90866043
Are you retarded, or...?

>>90865789
This anti-DC crossover asshole popped up like two days ago, and he has been shitposting non-stop since then
Are you really this autistic, or is this just ironic shitposting?
I don't even know anymore

Batman/LiterallyWho

wow this till just print money :^)

>>90868091
>Batman

Yes it will

>>90868108
Actually you've got a point there but there are definitely more sensible crossovers they could've done then teaming him up with some unknown

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>that one (1) /co/kehead that constantly freaks out in every DC Crossover thread.

I mean, just skip them

>>90868089
>popped up
No he's been a frequent poster in the JSA storytimes, they call him CrankyAnon

You may have seen his threads where he rants about how awful Catwoman is

>>90868132
Like what? What hasn't been done yet?

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>>90866003
>why didn't anyone tell them Gotham Academy wasn't just a book about white kids

Just look at the cover?

>>90868161
Spider-Man

>>90868136
>just skip them
He has almost nothing going on in his life besides his hobbies and he's mad that he's " the only one that takes this seriously"

>>90868166
Too much work for some people.

>>90868161
Not him but literally any other even vaguely popular character would've been set up for more success than this.
Nobody who gives a shit about Batman or comics in general are gonna come out in droves to see Batman team up with some rando fedora guns and cape lame duck.

>>90866403
>taken over
Oh sweetie...

>>90866215
Honestly kill yourself you insufferable faggot
>b-but everything isn't catered exactly to MY tastes? Why do things that aren't exist?

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>>90868175
>Implying

>>90868262
This is simple facts dude.

>>90868210
>any other even vaguely popular character
Like who?

>>90868328
Swamp Thing would be cool, they've met in the past even

>>90868285
Simple facts that you are incapable of handling? Like that some people want to see this crossover? That DC likes doing crossovers (and has since the 90s)? That you continue to be a gigantic faggot?

>>90868353
>Like that some people want to see this crossover?

Literally who
A tiny handful of mostly old people are hardly who should be pandered to. How would you like it if DC next did Batman meets Sonic because a tiny group of weirdos wanted to see that? This reeks of desperation.

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>>90868166
>all those white people

I'm going to be sick

>>90868383
Im going to preoder 10 copies of each issue from my LCS tomorrow just to spite you. Once again
>I don't want it so literally no one else does
Is not an argument. Several people in this thread alone have already come out and shit on you for your miserable opinion.

>>90868383
>>90868427
Oh and I would not give a single solitary shit if DC did a Batman vs Sonic, why would I care?

>>90868383
Batman alone is enough guarantee that people will buy it. Not sure what your beef is.

>>90868427
>Several people in this thread alone

A tiny fucking group
The millions of fans of Batman do not give a shit about some literally who from 90 years ago to justify this crossover

>>90868468
>Millions of Batman fans
Who don't buy comics. Batman barely cracks 100k sales. So maybe pandering to peoe who actually know something and care about comics, ie Shadow fans, is a better idea than pandering to moviefag casuals such as yourself. Pandering to comic fans works way better than movie fans, see: DC Rebirth vs Modern Marvel

>>90868468
First issue would easily perform above cancellation level. That alone justifies it.

>>90865789
what the fuck is up with batmans leg there

>>90868383
I would read a crossover between Sonic and the Flash.

>>90868718
Kek I think anyone would
No race though
Just have them be bros

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>>90868221
It's always fun to see how delusional and utterly oblivious the tumblrites are.

>>90866403
>This guy used to shitpost on /co/ until he got ran out

I haven't seen him in years and was wondering what had happened to him when Songbird started getting pushed more. This is hilarious.

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>>90868842
He's beyond fucking insane at this point and got kicked off of numerous comic forums. Also keep in mind he's about 41 years old.

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>>90868383
>How would you like it if DC next did Batman meets Sonic because a tiny group of weirdos wanted to see that?

If it's anything like this, I'd buy 5 copies.

>>90866403
>Every single thing said in pic
This is all true though.

Lmao the anti-Shadow anon is back at it again. I will never understand why you get so upset about The Shadow or people saying he influenced Batman.

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>>90869273
Not him but it's definitely bullshit that a few hipsters keep pushing because they listen to Steranko's butthurt anecdotes. Borders or propaganda.

Anyone read the batman tmnt crossover? It's awesome.

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>>90869275

>>90869372
Yeah it was awesome and it made sense because the TMNT are also popular as fuck and print money alone.
This one though is just weird and nonsensical and I can't see it turning any real profit.

>>90868876
Trump is kind of a threat to net nuetrality honestly.
Everything else was batshit though.

>>90866460
Didn't they do a crossover in the 60s or so with Batman fanboying all over Cranston when they met? Even asking if he was going to be returning to being The Shadow full-time?

>>90869407
>the TMNT are also popular as fuck and print money alone
Nigger their most recent solo comic wasn't even cracking the Diamond Top 300 by the end of its run. You are painfully casual.

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>>90869835
I can't wait to see what passive-aggressive threats or hostile remarks he's going to make at the Shadow in this new crossover just for the sake of being completely at odds with this crossover

>>90867569
Me. Hell, I've bought a couple of the old Shadow stories and listen to the radio dramas from time to time. People can still enjoy old things, y'know.

>>90869407
>I can't see it turning any real profit
>Batman on the cover
Certified retard. Seriously just end your life OP. If not OP do it because you agree with him.

>>90868210
Well, I suppose they could do another Batman/Sherlock Holmes crossover. They have options for it. Time Travel, Holmes using a Lazarus Pit, Nanda Parbat... other means of extending his lifespan...

Or do it like Gotham by Gaslight.

>>90869929
I'd be interested in seeing it myself.
I guess it depends on whether they plan to sanitize the Shadow or show him in his full Pulp Radio Drama glory.

>>90866495
Very true, Anon. Batman first met The Shadow in Batman #253 in the 70s and again in Batman #259.

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>>90866625
>Doc Savage is the only influence DC never likes to talk about.

>>90868383
>How would you like it if DC next did Batman meets Sonic because a tiny group of weirdos wanted to see that?
You have issues.

>>90870406
Is he trying to kill Doc Savage for being a problematic white (bronze) male?

>>90870406
Didn't that also have The Spirit in it?
...Has DC done anything with him since that series a while back? Heck, was that part of DC's regular continuity or set off in its own thing?

>>90870469
this isn't Marvel anon

>Marvel Shill/Bendis makes a thread asking why people like irreverent fun rather than convoluted year long entire-line fucking "events".

keep it moving folks. nothing to see here.

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>>90870529
Oh maybe Savage worked with the evil fascist police to oppress the peaceful minorities of Gotham

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>>90870470
It was an out of continuity Elseworlds story.

>>90866359
Yeah and you fags from /v/ who scream NOT IN MUH HOBBY can stay out, too.

They're comic books, not a "hobby". You read them or you don't. You don't have to identify with some culture around them.

>>90870574
>I-I need this to be an SJW thread, out of nowhere
>I NEEEEEEEED IT

>>90870751
When people bitch about cultural appropriation in terms of characters like Iron Fist every single straight white male comic book reader can absolutely sit there and tell that person they are appropriating our culture.

>>90866003
>I remember seeing people on twitter saying why didn't anyone tell them Gotham Academy wasn't just a book about white kids,

Good. I don't want these people getting into DC and trying to change it like what happened to Marvel

>>90868383

>How would you like it if DC next did Batman meets Sonic because a tiny group of weirdos wanted to see that?

I'd be fine with it. What, am I supposed to get mad about something I wont read but will make others happy? Only a massive cunt would care. You need to reevaluate yourself

>>90867569
As someone under 30, Alec Baldwin's Shadow was the first superhero movie I remember seeing. To me, The Shadow was the coolest shit as a wee lad: I watched some of the movie serials and listened to some of the radio programs all the time. Don't be a millennial newfag and say "who gives a shit about this '100 year old' character that people don't remember" because without The Shadow, there wouldn't be a Batman.

>>90871398
Boldfaced lie. Batman would've been created sooner or later, because the most of his influence comes from Zorro and Finger's imagination.

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>>90865789
>why is dc making weird comics that people will want to buy?

This is what happens when you sell as many comics as your rival that has 3x as many titles and bleeding money out the ass. DC knows how to make great crossovers and their smaller titles have been doing well enough for them to continue. That Batman/TMNT comic topped sales charts and GL/Star Trek was well received.

>>90871497
Yeah because TMNT and Trek have diehard huge fanbases, nobody is gonna be pounding down the doors to see Batman team up with somebody most fans don't know or give a shit about.

>>90871497

Shame they aren't all winners. GL planet of the Apes didn't do so well. Still outsold Champions in the same month though...lol

>>90871532
Will you stop? We get it you don't like the Shadow. No ones gonna force you to buy it or read it.

>>90871571
How was GL/Apes anyway? I've heard it was confusing if you've never seen anything past the original Planet of The Apes movie.

>>90871532

Really? Because I did a bit of digging on the one shot here >>90870406 and it sold 32,621 at $4.99 and that was in 2009.

It's seems like there are people who will buy these crossovers and they do make money. So are you going to shut the fuck up now?

>>90871532
Maybe the creators want to write this? Maybe their using this crossover to test the waters to see if people would buy a pulp-style character book?

>>90871746

It was definitely for fans. If you hadn't seen at least the first two films you would have been completely lost as they show Taylor dead in the underground city of the intelligent humans .

I'm enjoying it for what it is though

>>90871913
Ah, I've only seen the first one and the one with James Franco, but as a GL fan is it worth checking out?

>>90871996

If you like Hal Jordan punching gorillas and Guy being retarded then I say give it a shot

Fucking Guy, man...

We're going to a planet with intelligent Apes but we need back up! I know, let's take Grodd!"

>>90870620
It was it's own continuity. first wave was supposed to be the start of a pulp themed imprint headed by bats, doc, and spirit(and the avenger to a lesser extent) It was going to be it's own universe full of vigilantes and heroes without powers. a couple books got off the ground but the sales weren't there I guess. My dad got all the first wave books as they came out and they were pretty good

>>90870751
Anything you enjoy doing is a hobby

Why is there elitism around what is and isn't a hobby

>>90865899
They already had a crossover decades ago.

>>90866215
The first few Batman stories were lifted Shadow stories with Batman taking The Shadow's place.

>>90866625
I'd kill for Doc meeting Superman. Man of Bronze meets the Man of Steel.

>>90867569
>Hemorrhage money compared to Marvel

They're kicking their ass in terms of single sales. If you look at trade sales its an absolute blood bath, there's not a single Marvel trade in the top five.

>>90869407
>Weird and nonsensical
>Batman with the fucking Shadow

It's such an obvious pairing they literally did it already decades ago.

>>90870284
>Full Pulp Radio Drama Glory

Orson Wells Shadow was less bloodthirsty than his pulp counterpart. Rarely would he out and out shoot people. Often he'd capture criminals alive or trick them into killing themselves.

>>90870470
>>90870620
First Wave was great. I wish they'd make it one of the worlds in the multiverse, I want to see them crossover with the SOS Earth.

>>90871532
>No one likes The Shadow

Who knows what faggotry lurks in the heart of Anon?

The Shadow Knows....

AHAHAHAHAHAHAH [/spoiler

>>90870470
It was out of continuity. IIRC the wanted the setting to be sort of like Batman the Animated Series where it had modern tech yet had a retro look.

>>90874170
I liked the idea but the characterizations were iffy. I still wish Azzarello and Chiang would do that First Wave/Vertigo Batman though.

>>90873967
We did get Spider-Man meets Doc Savage, but all he did was hero around & REFUSE to believe a woman could do evil until Spider-Man made him watch & he was still confused.

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>>90866063
>virtue signalling

>>90866063
Once again, not Marvel.

>>90865789
>people falling for the obvious bait
>people not recognizing this is the troll who appears in all crossover threads

>>90871532
Trek Comics don't sell, TMNT solo comics don't sell. These comics sell because of the DC characters. Look at comichron lists and tell me the last time you've seen a TMNT or Trek book above a major DC property.
You're so far out of your depth.

>>90865789
Hey!
Look who's back!
>>>90797305
>>>90789361

>>90875737
His name is Cranky and he is known around these parts. Just ask anyone for comic recommendations and he'll appear

>>90875876
Are you sure it's not S/D under another persona?

man it's horrible we're getting a pulp detective story from Snyder and Orlando

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>>90875912
He's too busy screeching about Trump and white people to take time to 'combat' 4chan and anyway this is how he'd do it

>>90865789
>Who are they supposed to appeal to?
People who like having fun.

>Still no Army Of Darkness crossover.

For Christ sake, they have Akrham Asylum. This seems like a given.

>>90875912

nah this dude talks about DC shit that s/d doesn't care about

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>>90875955
wat

>>90876026
I'd like a Batman 66'/Godzilla crossover comic.

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>>90875955
What a shitty fetish.

>>90874119
Ah... I had gotten them reversed it seems.

>>90876045
>>90875955
So there's a chance it could be S/D.

>>90866149
you overdoes on red pills man

>>90868876
he's 30

>>90869464
>Britain is leaning towards us.

>Relations with Russia are improving (how ever minimal).

I mean, sure, a lot of countries hate us now, but what are they going to do about it?

>>90866149
>Who is Deathstroke
>What is Section Eight (literally features a character whose power is rape)
Kill yourself casual. Also you have a bizarre fixation on the killing which has never been a focus of the """agenda""" you're talking about.

>>90870751
tbqu I'd much rather have the /v/ fags over the people who refuse to enjoy anything that isn't LGTBQABCDEFGHIJKLMNOP+ approved.

>>90876092
I want a Batman '66/Ultraman crossover.

>Why is DC doing all these bizarre crossovers lately?

Because Marvel won't

>>90866003
Sometimes it really hits me just how racist these people can be.

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>>90865789
This can only work in The Shadow's favor. He's had a few good stories with Wagner over with those fools at Dynamite but nothing will give him better exposure than a Batman crossover.

>>90874290
kek

>>90879317
Does DC make all it's decisions in accordance to marvel?

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>>90865789
YES! I can not fucking wait. The Shadow could definitely use some more exposure. This will be the first Batman comic I buy in a looong time

>>90868914
/co/mblr plz go

>>90869929
It'd be cool if this leads to a reprint for the previous crossover, or maybe just toss it in as a bonus at the end of the trade for the new one. It was only like two issues or something, right?

>>90868175
They've made like 3 of those, and two of them were in the 90's.

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>>90874290

>>90880877
nobody will give a shit about him they just want Batman

>>90866149
What do you think would happen if they did another Judge Dredd crossover?

>>90866245
>to

>>90876779
Britain wants an apology