Who's your favorite web animator?

The Brothers Chap

>>90828274
Does Geibuchan count? If it doesn't, then this: >>90828305

>>90828274
AnimatedJames sucks.
Go check out Dtoons instead.

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>AnimatedJames the fartfapping pedo
No.

Also gonna share a highly unpopular opinion, my fave web animator is VivziePop

>>90828381
>>90828641
James is the hero we need

>>90828274
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaO0yffWPaM

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>>90828641
Good taste, anon.

>>90828274
>watching a brony fartfag

>>90828274
Surprise that no one haven't post it yet.

>>90828381
Hey, James isn't that bad, and he's gotten a lot better too.

>>90828274
thank god im not animated james

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRNWIG_ayYYikMlljc9-SHw/videos

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>>90828641
Nice

>>90828917
Posted... what?

>>90828274
>his down fall

I didn't ask for that man

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>>90828274
Oh yeah, that guy.

>>90828274
BBBBRRRRPPPTTTTTTTTTT

I didn't mind his having a fart fetish, desu. It's really the pedophilia that's fucked up.

Enough with the fart fetish shit, Max Gilardi is the best web animator

>>90831687
>>90828641
Where are people getting that he's a pedophile from?

>>90831747
Max is a diaperfag

>>90832881
He had an online relationship with a girl who was 16 or 17 and I guess Americans still think anything below 18 = pedophilia.

>>90832988
He also draws underage characters in his fart fetish pics/comics

>>90832988
How long ago was that? I'd imagine even now he's not THAT much older than her.

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>>90828274
No one. Everyone I liked used the "I don't get paid enough on YouTube now due to the new algorithm's mathematical principles" excuse to stop animating(It's not like you earned enough from animating in the first place. Anyone that creates web animations for money is a chump), moved onto podcasts/video games, or are complete degenerates(Pedophiles, hiveminds, cliques, annoying, etc). Kind of regret looking up to every CC years ago, most of them are lazy insignificant clowns, and they'll use any excuse to save their ass. And as always, their fans(grown ass men) will eat it up like candy.

I've noticed a decent number of web animators appearing during 2014-2017 though, primarily from /ic/. They don't have that shitty Egoraptor style, don't create uninspired parodies, and are the exact opposite of everything I mentioned in the first paragraph. Everyone from 2003 - 2008 and their fans can go fuck themselves. Make way for the true animators.

>>90832988
I heard about that, as far as I know they haven't actually met in person.

>>90832886
>>90833041
Futafags are more dignified then this.

>puts his name on his BRAAAAAAAAP account
>gives no fucks about being associated with drawing fartshit
I mean, good for him for being able to embrace his fucking fart fetish, I suppose, but really? Does he not care that his fart porn will forever be attatched to his name and works? Can you imagine if fucking Shadman had his full name on his site?

>>90833182
>Can you imagine if fucking Shadman had his full name on his site?
He was doxxed awhile back.

>>90833182
I don't think Shad gives a shit.

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>Aussie animator's main character is a shitposter
Adam is a god.

This is the first time I'm hearing about this fart fetish stuff with James, I had no idea I didn't think he did anything NSFW .
Oh well some people like what they like, I'm not going throw stones from my glass home.

>>90833473
It's not so much that James had a fart fetish, although that was already pretty weird. It was how poorly he handled the whole situation when people found out about his fetish account.

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>>90828274
*HONK HONK*

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Hi! Would anyone like to try a bowl of Grandma Brownie's Chocolate Chunker Wunker Busters: Now With Even Bigger Chunks of Chocolate Chunks?

>>90833124
by a razor's edge at best

>>90833473
>This is the first time I'm hearing about this fart fetish stuff with James
He was known for anything else?

>>90832988
You do realize in most parts of the world, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that right?
a pedophile is a person that is sexually attracted to pre-pubescent kids, and 16 year olds certainly do not fall into that category. You're biologically an adult at that point any way.

>>90834784
Actually, you're biologically an adult by the age 25.

>>90834784
>You do realize in most parts of the world, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that right?
Which is why I singled out Americans. They still haven't grown out of the sexually repressed, pedophile witch-hunt phase.

>>90834840
I thought that was only mentally?

>>90835034
No. You don't stop growing, developing, or whatever until you're 25.

>>90834840
except you aren't....
what the fuck are they teaching you people in american schools

>>90834945
>They still haven't grown out of the sexually repressed, pedophile witch-hunt phase.
It's a lot worse in the UK desu

>>90835112
Advanced science. What the fuck are they teaching you people in Australia?

"Oi! Dis mugger of numbers on me sheet of paper is confusing! Pi-pi cheerio and what-not."
^you see that? That's you.

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>>90835095
Ok, now how old is 15?

>>90835191
>advanced science
Yeah im sure all your broke public schools can afford to teach your idiot kids all the "advanced" topics of science

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWnkpMo5xXM

>>90835267
We can afford the advanced topics and AP courses. How about your shitty country?

>>90835243
10. Sorry.

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>>90835405
What?

>>90835452
It's science. You foreigners wouldn't understand.

The problem with making OC animation is that it will take years to build up any following.

It's far easier to do parodies for 2-3 years and then do OC with existing fanbase of views. You need 100k+ subs for your oc content to gain any traction.

>>90834945
>>90835137
Canada too, they'll press charges over drawn loli porn whereas it's a constant grey area in the States.

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>>90835497
Nigger I am american. And I asked just how old is fifteen to you. Should you be sentenced and sent to jail for life for killing a person at fifteen? Can you join the army? Should you have the right to vote? Can you marry whoever you want? Can you secede from your family?

>>90828641
you're right, that is an unpopular opinion

I didnt realize you were still in your emo furry phase anon

>>90835853
>Nigger I am american
No you're not.

>Should you be sentenced and sent to jail for life for killing a person at fifteen?
Yes. You should be sentenced as an adult for killing any person and/or animal.

>Can you join the army?
Yes.

>Should you have the right to vote?
Vote for whom?

>Can you marry whoever you want?
I don't know, science can't explain this properly.

>Can you secede from your family?
What does secede mean?

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>>90836123
Yes I fucking am, you stupid bitch.

>What does secede mean?
It means leave. The south wanted to secede from the union when the north tried to take thier slaves away and some fifteen year olds want to legally secede from thier parents if thier parents are drug abusers or some other reason. And if you think a fifteen year old is old enough to die in war or in jail why would you think it's wrong to have a sexial relations or marry one?

Or be peed on. or suck his dick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5xL0bL-rUc

>>90831747
He's probably the most talented in the animation department, but he needs a damn writer.

>>90837669
Degenerate.

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>>90828641
I used to like this persons work. ALOT.
Up until I stopped liking the artstyle, and the artist in general.
But now, I'm conflicted. I have no favourite animator and I just wanna die right now.

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>>90837977
I keep thinking that everytime I see one of his new videos. But who would be willing to do it for no pay and is actually good at it?

>>90839118
>Up until I stopped liking the artstyle, and the artist in general.
>the artist in general.
Is it because of something she did, or something she didn't do?

What about my man rebeltaxi/pan pizza the cringe Lord amiright

>>90841527
Can't stand him. Always his art "style" is shit.

>>90833099
source

>>90841739
Also*

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>>90841527
Listened to an episode of his podcast and it was terribly unfunny.

>>90834555
Max G is underrated as a voice actor and comedian imo

>>90842209
Don't worry, I got you. It's called: Le Royaume

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6ZmMjMdrqs

>>90843852
thanks anon

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>>90842743
He needs to stop trying to do a legitimate movie review and just go completly off tangent every time. Also more burnbot.

>>90841414
Not cool man, why would you post this?

>>90842209
He got it from Destiny. lol Look him up on Scarce's video. https://youtu.be/_z1CyW-Y24Q

>>90833236
IIRC he got kicked out of a college or job or something like that because someone found what he draws.

>>90841414
BRAAAAP

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>>90846572

>>90831747
Brain Dump is so enjoyable

>>90846948
But I'm a fucking flip.

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>>90834555
DID YOU JUST SAY 'Grandma Brownie's Chocolate Chunker Wunker Bunkers, Now with even bigger chunks of chocolate chunks'?

>>90834703
He made a bunch Sonic vs Horse videos that made a million views or so each.

>>90846279
That's just a coincidence, besides, half of the things he was spewing was audible while the other half was irrelevant to what I said.. But this just showcases another reason why I hate early 2000's animators; they have to get involved in internet battles/drama just to stay relevant. Really, name one animator that hasn't gotten in some kind of verbal fight over Internet.

>>90847226
wasn't audible*

Proofreading is a fucking meme

>>90842743
I love his comedy and his animation talent, but I was shocked when I heard he voices EVERY character on Brain Dump. He also sings well in the newest episode

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>>90847372

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>>90847111
Ok look, we all know that Grandma Brownie's Chocolate Chunker Wunker Busters, Now with even bigger chunks of chocolate chunks is the delicious cereal sensation that's been bringing magic to the hearts of children and adults alike for the past sixty years. But we're not talking about that right now.

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>>90848266
What we're supposed to be talking about is all the delicious marshmellow shapes in every box of Grandma Brownie's Chocolate Chunker Wunker Bunkers.

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>>90846572
fuck you

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>>90848385
Blue Rainbows!

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>>90848620
Turquoise crowns!

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>>90848688
Red indians!

>>90828274
bBBBRRRAaaaPPPPPPPP

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>>90839281
Didn't the guy on the left go on to become a tranny?

>>90839281
>That's what the Jaltoid couple looks like

I...I jacked off to Jaltoid hentai...

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>>90849579

>>90849701
Please do not make a mockery of my trauma

>>90849579
>people look like people
shocking

>>90839118
be your own hero

>>90832886
please tell me you have proof

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>>90849579
Dumbass.

Felix Colgave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adi9Ijhvn1Y

>>90850039
>those beasts are people
fatso detected

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>>90850024

>>90849579
Sauce? I want to judge your tastes.

>>90850070
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaQPTIXCIYs

>>90847111
>>90848266
>>90848385
>>90848620
what is this autistic rp shit

>>90828274
>James
Fuck outta here.

>>90850244
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-Zb749pxDw

>>90850177
:^))))

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>>90850133
This is the real deal right here

>>90850229
what in the fuck
clearly fetish shit

>>90841414
WEW

>>90849503

Yes. Still uses male voice on the podcast though

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>>90850244
>>90850304
Do you think it's true that Grandma Brownie puts the chunks of real chocolate in every box of Wonker Bunkers herself?

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>>90850476
Yes, I do like to think that.

>>90842637
Was it post-ken

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>>90850672
>liking Ken

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>>90846572

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>>90850411
You think he has already regretted his choice? I can see him taking the bullet.

anyways check the work of this lovely lad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Smm6DpryUeI

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>>90849579
>he fell for the artist avatars are as good looking as the actual artists meme

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>>90850519
Do you mean the real chocolate chunks in every box of Grandma Brownie's Chocolate Chunker Wunker Bunkers?

Zone

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>>90849579
WEW
E
W

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I like James' stuff. He has/had a lot of potential. He could really go places if he sorted out his personal stuff and got some formal art education.

I feel like he's really a victim of being an isolated social retard who let the internet get inside his head too much. Also, running around screeching "I AM THE FART MAN YES I AM LALALA BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP SNIFF SNIFF YUMMY" was a dumb response to people finding his fetish. I mean sure, that's the kind of thing you gotta roll with but it seems like he went so overboard he guaranteed that would be his most defining trait.

>>90851111
>He could really go places if he sorted out his personal stuff and got some formal art education.
Just spend a minimum of four years on /ic/ after reading the sticky, you'll learn everything.

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>>90851161

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>>90849579
>jacking it to 3DPD people
you had it coming

>>90851111
And resorting to humor that doesn't consist of shock/ reference humor.

>>90841271
Some shady ass shit she had done that I never knew about, as well as her constant tweeting over trivial stuff. She gradually became more annoying and I found that I couldn't enjoy her work as much as I used to.
As for her style it just became more or less the same but just watered down I feel.
>>90850048
I like the sound of that.

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>>90851161
>Just spend a minimum of four years on /ic/ after reading the sticky, you'll learn everything.
>spending time on /ic/
>at all

not even fellow d/ic/ks can back you up on that

>>90851111
He's a pretty chill guy in private company. He actually does a LOT of work for his stuff as far as music and voice acting on top of the actual animation. He needs to seriously break out if his current style but when he does he'll be going somewhere.

But like you said he's really reactionary and kinda insecure. He needs to join a team or something so he can have somebody to rope him in and keep his emotional outbursts out of his work.

>>90851253
Are you sure you're not talking about the guy who did the Group 5 videos?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjIQnbZr0fQ

>>90851300
Of course they can't back me up on that, half of them have forsaken their own principles. My artwork is shit, but compared to other people I'm a God.

>>90851323
It's a shame how too much exposure to the internet can really fuck up people who weren't on the most solid ground emotionally in the first place.

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>>90839281
>they've gotten even fatter and more ugly

>>90833182
He only added his name after he was doxed.

>>90839281
it is fucking INSANE to me that they have sex

it would be hard for me to imagine a more offensively ugly human

>>90835591
Can you name an animator who switched from parodies to OC?

>>90851551
anon, I'll tell you a secret that Hollywood and porno have been trying to hide from you

most people who have sex are ugly

>>90851580
Mystery ben for one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlEb3L1PIco

>>90851604
Whaaaaaaaaat?

>>90832988
>online relationships and rping is now grounds for calling someone a pedophile
I will never forgive normies for ruining the internet

>>90841414
Why did he take this picture?

>>90851390
obligatory pyw

>>90851604
no

t.
/fit/

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>>90847226
>Everyone asleep at the wheel towards JonTron
>ALL THE WARRIORS AWAKEN to take a swing at Destiny.

I can't say I'm not disappointed.
This is the big stand the Youtuber Community wants to take up?
This is the conversation absolutely everyone needs to take a say in? We can't let one or three guys handle it? No, everyone's in there, let's players, abridgers, animators, everyone's here. All this fucking outrage over a guy saying something questionable about animators. I don't agree with what he said necessarily, nor do I think it's that easy to make money off animation from Youtube like he says, but still.
We need the entire gang in there?

JonTron goes full tilt racist, and the aforementioned gang is all quiet. I'm not asking for the entire gang to speak up on the issue, nor would I want to see it, but everyone's pretty quiet on the issue. Not one person can speak up? No? Just It's like they're just waiting for Jafar to come up with a new video, so everyone can give him a pat on the back and let the whole thing blow over, but some guy shits on animators? WE GOTTA PUT A STOP TO THAT SHIT THIS GUY IS GETTING TOO BIG FOR HIS FUCKING BRITCHES

I can't but look at it as a combination of nepotism and cowardice. Everyone go after the easy target and pat ourselves on the back for it.

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Not really an individual. But man, The Sun Creature guys make some primo quality stuff.

>>90851624
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBm8e2__3oQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvwJnBQwZ5I


>>90851637
Pyw first, negro.

>>90851608
This should could have been so good if you took away the weebshit. Literally why is the dog a kitsune humankin abomination

>>90831647
Is he more into "BBBBRRRPPPTTT" or "BBRRRAAAP"?

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>>90851281
>I like the sound of that.

>>90833099
>le calarts style

>>90851111
>got some formal art education.
Like any school would take him now.

>>90851693
No idea but just as an example. Piemations also did one episode of an OC series to varying levels of success. There would be more but youtube + animation doesn't make much money unless youre explosm and can dump out daily animations with a full team

>>90828305
Fpbp
I'd go so far as to say they're the ONLY good web animators. They changed the face of the internet, for christ's sake. They had a highly successful website, never sold out, lived good decent lives and transitioned into the major leagues with ease.

Compared to them, everyone else is just playing catch-up.

>decent artist
>art teacher
>nothing has inspired me in the last year and have barely created anything

>can't draw well with a tablet
>can draw well with a cintiq but don't know how to fully utilize programs
>haven't forced myself to learn digital art yet

I wish I was born 3 or 4 years later so I could have gotten in on this shit in school. My students have been doing digital art since kindergarten.

>>90851679
What did Destiny say about animators?

>>90851679
>JonTron goes full tilt racist,
oh yeah, whats going on with that anyways? find it hard to believe he just suddenly woke up insulting races

>>90851685
>Pyw first, negro
not how it works faggot

>>90851236
It wasn't 3D porn, it was just their characters fucking. They draw a shit load of waifu-tier girls afterall.

>>90851816
i know, but any self-insert/avatar/3DPD art at all
stick to fiction and youll be okay forever

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>>90851679
Almost everyone in the art community for web animations(specifically the ones that originated from Newgrounds and/or creates R34) is a pansy. Their community is like a high school clique, it's ridiculous. I don't understand how anyone can look up to these people, or at least now since they share everything(stupid things) on their social media accounts. I honestly can't believe these assholes have an unholy amount of connections to the animation industry -- they don't even fucking draw anything, what the hell.

>>90851796
>Destiny has a low opinion of blue collar jobs
>PsychicPebbles calls him out for being elitist, talks about how most blue collar workers don't despise their job
>Destiny claims PP makes $250k to make him seem privileged and tells him to kill himself
>PP tells Destiny he's a dumbass for assuming he makes $250k a year
>Instead of admitting he was wrong and apologizing, Destiny digs himself deeper, saying PP is stupid and lazy for not making at least $250k with his sub count and mischaracterizes PP as thinking that being a cartoonist is worse than hard manual labor
>Everyone dunks on Destiny

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>>90851906
Did shadman do a fucking destiny related image?

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>>90851906
>you could try drawing my son
>he's only 6

Don't tempt him!

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>>90835334
He's a great animator

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6FNbRW1oYE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prYiZE_I_dE

>>90851921
To be fair, while he went about this the wrong time/way, PP should be making 250k.

A fucking million subs, SO RANDUM topical humor, and connections.

>>90851961
>and connections.
Nah, the animators are the ones the connections.

>>90851753
You just gotta bite the bullet. A lot of popular Digital Artists aren't even good at art fundamentally.

Don't give up old man

>>90851995
I'm only 25, don't count me out yet. It's just so fucking hard from drawing at a certain level to drawing at a much lower level because you don't have mastery of a program or tablet to computer screen transfer.

Maybe I'll work on that this summer.

>>90850133
>Felix Colgrave

my nigga! Saw him in Sydney last year.

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>>90851961
could, but not necessarily should.

He had a choice between spending his time being a professional YouTuber or spending his time working his way to become a professional animator and he chose the latter.

He COULD make bank doing Let's Plays and vlogs. But to do that is a fulltime job in itself. All that time and energy he would spend playing video games or talking into a camera and editing the videos would be time and energy he would no longer be able to spend on reaching his goal of making a living off animation.

Instead of doing something he might hate (idk about other people but to me being a professional Let's Player seems like it would be soulsucking to anyone with creative ambition) for short term financial gain, he's putting in the work in something he loves that'll pay off in the long term.

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>>90851957
>>you could try drawing my son
>>he's only 6
>Drawn by Shadman

>>90852046
I stumbled across his shit the other night while I was crossfaded on acid and weed and it was an amazing experience.

>>90852028
Try drawing with a tablet for like a month. Your muscles will adjust. It WILL look like shit, but it's better than nothing.

You don't even need to master the program. Some people who make a living off digital art don't even know the complete ins and outs of a program. Just know enough.

/ic/ might have better answers for you. Hell, Tumblr is oversaturated with digital art tutorials.

I think you might be just over thinking. Just do it bby <3

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>>90851796
Animators literally can't handle the bantz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUBJonkRkF8

>>90851796
Something about how youtube animators complaining about how hard it is to make money off youtube is nonsense when they only upload like 2-4 things a year, and there are better ways.

Apparently, that's not exactly what he meant, I didn't look that heavily into it, because I didn't really care that much. and it's really not that big of a deal

I just noticed that people who have been taking swings at Destiny since his stream have jumped right on that, and a fuckton of the Youtuber community has shown up complaining about it or patting animators on the back. Egoraptor, takahata, LittleKariboh, psychicpebbles, people favoriting each others comments on it, plenty of the regular faces, let's players talking about how hard animators work, EVERYONE'S in there!

I get the idea that people have an opinion and their right to it. But even if Destiny is 100% out of line, it don't need this sort of outrage.
>>90851804
He decided to become a racist. He went on a stream with Destiny (which is the only reason anyone is talking about Destiny in the first place), and said some pretty indefensible racist crap that there's really no digging himself out of
Not ONE, not a single ONE of anyone from the Youtuber Gang felt the need to call him out or ask him to reel it in. The only people I've seen who have had anything to say about it is are unrelated news podcasters.

Destiny says some shit about animators, and now it's time for the united front. It really comes off like people are just using it as an excuse to take a swing at the guy who gave a chance to make the lovable JonTron make himself look stupid.

The fact that everyone is jumping in, just makes it worse, everyone gotta get their swing in and get at that dastardly Destiny, but everyone turns stays silent when one of the group favorite's becomes a racist and let's everyone know it.
It just comes off as cowardly. Everyone go after the easier target for extra points and pats on the back!

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>>90852198
>Even Titmouse is joining in

>>90851921
I thought it was the other way around, that Destiny made some comparison to animating not being as hard as blue collar jobs >>90852198 and that's what got everyone up in arms

>>90852261
Nah he only started the "aw did the big baby animator get a wittle papercut? Life must be so hard for you." shit after he got called out for bullshitting the $250k a year figure

>>90852224
>when they only upload like 2-4 things a year
one minute of animation takes over 900 drawings

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>>90851161
a community where some actually want to learn and a community where many are constantly trying to troll each other do not mix well at all, anon.

>>90852224
>He went on a stream with Destiny (which is the only reason anyone is talking about Destiny in the first place), and said some pretty indefensible racist crap that there's really no digging himself out of
link? id like to judge for myself

>>90852224
I just find it funny someone who streams vidya games for a living is talking about privilege and defining what hard work is.

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>>90852198
desu senpai manual labor is much better than sitting at a computer desk all day hunched over drawing fram after frame after frame. one is extremely poor for your health and doesnt take 20 years to master (and even then you never stop learning)
and i say this as an animation major

his jokes wouldve been fine but you can tell he's taking it way too seriously, and comes off as a dumb faggot

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>>90852198
>guy who plays games on stream for a living talking about hard work
he's got to be a professional shitposter

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>>90852453
He's not going to give you the link because he's lazily stirring shit

>>90851796
>>90851679
I legit thought this is why people hated destiny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0uv_VEfIv0&t=557s

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>>90849579
>Emi is a chub and Dalton looks like a beta
what did you expect?

>>90852695
Holy shit this got boring immediately. Artists are the worst.

>>90833099
I think the animators at hyun's dojo are fine and humble. some of them have actual jobs.

>>90852224
>It really comes off like people are just using it as an excuse to take a swing at the guy who gave a chance to make the lovable JonTron make himself look stupid
That wouldn't explain the involvement of EgoRaptor, who hates JonTron.

It's not the job of animators to come in and shit on a Let's Player who said some racist things, but they SHOULD correct people who say their job is easy or financially viable, as neither of those things are true. You're really grasping at straws to build your conspiracy theory, and I read Info Wars.

>>90849579
Im so sorry anon

>>90852745
>>Artists are the worst
>tfw Destiny-pill masterrace

>>90852754
>EgoRaptor, who hates JonTron.
huh wha?
i dont keep up with drama at all. i thought those two were thick as theives and used to even do lets plays together

>>90852745
but the person shitting on destiny isn't an artist...

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>>90849579

>>90852605
>one is extremely poor for your health
That's better.

>>90852776
>used to

>>90852605
*and takes 20 years

>>90852859
so theyre back together?

>>90852826
youre not getting at what i think youre getting at, right?

>>90852931
I was getting at that anons statement that blue collar jobs are better because they're less healthy.

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>>90852978
What?

>>90828351
>I KNOW THEM THINGS IS FOR KIRBY BUT I'M KIRBY SO THEM THINGS FOR ME

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Hey fuckers, more animators less drama

https://youtu.be/HgLmuKxNAb0
https://youtu.be/fHUL1Qjc3Cs
https://youtu.be/_i3H_68pRVs

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>>90847226
Isn't Jon friends with a shitload of animators? Where the fuck were they went he was getting blasted? only one I can think of who actually stood by was PP. Kinda fucked up to leave your friend out to dry even if you don't agree with his views and then start fighting back once the person targets you.

>>90833099
the main issue is that good animation takes i very time consuming too make. if you want good animation, it takes longer to makes, especially if its one person. if you work a full time job you wont be able to produce good quality animation for a long time. if they make money from animation they can spend more time animating, instead of doing something else to keep the lights on. though youtube animators probably do not make a lot without patreon.

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>tfw you're not famous in any shape or form so you can post pretty much anything online without anyone giving a shit
Also how come nobody mentioned Harry Partridge here yet?
He's a great animator and if I remember he has a job animating too.
And Betsy lee comes close second in her animations because she actually makes content without any stupid excuses, shame the quality is not as high.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUDD860Um-0

>>90852978
no, that animation jobs are poorer for your health anon

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>>90853063
Sometimes I like Danielle even better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-K-zqLNtcw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3RfyMhGGLE

>>90853072
>Where the fuck were they went he was getting blasted?
Nowhere.
Jon pretty much went over the line after the stream, so trying to say anything to defend him would make them look bad, but at the same time, they can't go against the cliche by saying anything against him.

As long as nobody in the community toes out of line, they can probably just wait for enough people to forget and carry on like nothing happened.

So all the warriors do the best next thing, attack the guy who made him look stupid instead.

David O'Reilly has moved onto pretty big stuff lately
https://vimeo.com/14338274

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Golfinho is the best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq3_VNfceiw

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>>90853139
Sick Animation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv7jAK7KUcY

>Isn't Jon friends with a shitload of animators?
Yes.
>Where the fuck were they went he was getting blasted?
Staying silent. If I had to guess, I think they don't wan't to soil their reputations by having everyone call them racists. They all had drama based around themselves sometime in the past too though(Magfest, old Newgrounds, etc)

>Kinda fucked up to leave your friend out to dry even if you don't agree with his views
Not really. If your friend does something stupid, you would let them know what they're doing is bad and require them to pick themselves up. Yes-men are not true friends.

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>>90853219
Last one, SexuaLobster. Consistent releases and quality, even with more limited stuff like this.
https://youtu.be/_f_FCOEtOjw

Not sure who posted Candy Store from Heathers animatic by squibbles, but thanks. Hadn't heard this musical before, it's really good so far.

>>90853245
I know that Ross and Holly were defending him when that Sargon stream happened.

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>>90853155
Personally a lot of the animators just come off as jaded because the YouTube animator bubble popped. Yeah, the algorithm put animators at a disadvantage but there are still young animators on YouTube now. It's ironic that they talk about how "you shouldn't go into animation for the money" and yet they won't shut the fuck up about how little they get. Yeah, you can't make a living off of drawing online, you're telling me you have no other ways to make money outside of it despite knowing tons of people in the industry?

I just wish they would admit that their spark is gone instead of "hey, well animation takes time man" it's obvious that the majority of them are through with animating because they can no longer live off of it and would rather bitch on twitter than give you know... UPDATES ON THE DAMN THING THEY'RE ANIMATING!

>>90852754
As far as I know; Destiny is barely any more significant than any of the posters on this board, and the only reason anyone even knows who he is is specifically because of the JonTron drama. And while not everyone is there because of it, there are people who are there specifically because of it.. The reason Psychicpebbles is even involved with Destiny is SPECIFICALLY because of that drama.

My point is that random twitch man incorrectly making assumption about animators is the battle everyone chooses to fight, but if they aren't outright making excuses for it or watering it down, not one of these big names seems to have anything to say about blatant racism from one of their peers. I don't even agree with Destiny. But this is where the whole gang needs to make a stand?

I'm not saying that they should be morally obligated to take a stand against bigotry, or that they HAVE to get involved, or that I want the entire family in against JonTron. But of all the battles the gang wants to get mixed with as a united front, it's against Twitchman?

I feel less like I'm watching people take a stand against someone being flippant towards their industry and reminding everyone about how hard they need to work, and more like I'm watching a high school gang take turns to put the guy who spoke out against the cliche in his place.

To use another analogy, it's like if I'm watching an actor say some repugnant shit about Jews in an interview with a reporter, and all the other actors stay silent, but when the report says he thinks actors shouldn't get paid that much, the entire guild rains down on him.
How brave of you guys to take a stand, patting each other on the back on how hard your jobs are, but nobody has the stones to say anything about towards one of the bigger names.

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>>90853355
Holy fuck, thank you. Finally, someone else that understands and can see through their bullshit. I respect the hell out of new internet animators because they're the exact opposite of these dicks and love the craft of animation in general. They might run ads on their videos and have a Patreon, but they're more like a tip jar if anything. Most of them are pleasant to be around as well, it's just a shame the majority of them have horrible tastes in music though.

>>90852659
If you listen to him talk you will find that he unfortunately isn't. The guy doesn't even see whats wrong with Mexican shanty towns in the US.

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>>90828641
>NEVER FORGET

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>>90853571
What a fucking ripoff.
If you were an artist, how would you price your commissions?

>>90833041
Half the waifus on /Co/ are underaged

>>90853591
Nothing because I can't imagine making money off of any shitty scribbles I could churn out. I would just do requests.

>>90853571
as up her own ass at that may be, I've seen her follower count. if you're commissioning promotional material that's a solid rate for the exposure.

>>90853622
Are you me? All I do is fulfill requests, I can never see myself accepting money for this.

>>90853591
Not FUCKING 200$

>>90853591
15USD/hour, based on how long I think it will take.
If I took too long that'd be my fault. you stick to your quote unless the client withheld relevant information that complicates the job

>>90853648
Well if people are buying it, might as well just go the full mile and be a shameless whore.

I'd never pay $15 or more for a bust. That's ridiculous. Fame or not, that drawing isn't worth $100. I'd pay $100 for an animation, but that's about it

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>>90853754
>I'd pay $100 for an animation

>>90853754
>I'd pay $100 for an animation, but that's about it
Hi, Turner.

>>90831747
Fuck off Max.When's the next WGJ4K?

>>90853802
Fuck WGJ4K. When is the next Joan and Mark episode?

>>90853779
>>90853800
It depends on the quality of it. Also, the amount of frames. I should mention that as well.

>>90839281
>He has a beard now
Sweet fuck

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>>90853571
>>90853591
>not knowing how much furfaggots are willing to spend in order to get their fix

That's actually a pretty smart move of her part, check this out:
http://nymag.com/selectall/2016/08/the-secret-furry-patrons-keeping-indie-artists-afloat.html

>>90853841
>now
that picture is at least two years old

>>90828274
harry partridge.
the people responsible for http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/614511
and a few others I won't link spam to NG with.

>>90850870
I know 2 artists where this is actually the case but usually it's a thin veneer over a decrepit ham beast trying to earn enough for diabeetus meds.

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>>90853843
I remember reading a tumblr post yesterday which said that Furries were very generous when commisoning.

Clever Clover Productions
https://youtu.be/8gGi---vEH8
https://youtu.be/Cl1Mw0Tq5zE
https://youtu.be/aaO0yffWPaM

>>90852224
>Destiny rags on a large part of the Youtube community
>Jontron talks about his Nazisms and his views on modern day subjects
>Nobody cares because Jontron is actually liked and no one has a reason to rag on him or try to act like the big champion hero

News flash bud, Pewdiepie has done questionable shit lately and he is the biggest and most influential person on Youtube, nobody is going to care about Jontron having some Nazi views over this loser (who mind you I never heard of before he started stirring shit with his so called "debates") who insulted a large part of the community.

>>90832988
For Fucks sake.

>>90835853
Oh yeah, Stamper. I like Stamper.

watermelon :^)

Stamper

>>90836021
>i gonna judge an artist based on her likes not her talent

>>90851906
>>90852198
WTF I FUCKING LOVE DESTINY NOW

>>90853514
Matt Wilson and Jason Steele are the only web animators still primarily releasing OC instead of parodies.

>>90853591
thats not too bad acutally
if her skill level were actually worth it, that is

>>90855927
>>90856106
stamper a cute
i miss him in the podcasts

>>90853591
The most I've charged as a base price was $30 for full body pieces with shading. $100+ for something made entirely digitally and isn't animated is just narcissistic, and I've seen people do animations for under a hunned!

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>>90831747

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What did James mean by this?

>>90853179
Like what? Last I heard he went to work for writing south park. What is he doing outside of that?

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>>90853754

Man trying to figure out an OC animation you could make on youtube is harder than I ever imagined. With parodies you just pick hot topic X and go.

But with OC i'm juggling how the show will work (in terms of humor/lenght/dialogue/etc), the charcters, the style of animation and characters (so i can solo animate and put out at least once a month), etc.

>>90857261
>writing South Park
Isn't Trey Parker the only writer the show has?

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JamieR is my personal favorite because of how weird his animations are.

>>90853827
>Depends on the quality of it

How do you rank quality in a commision?
Also if you're commisioning you shouldnt get some shit animator/artist that pays 20$ per line

>>90853591
Honestly, 2 to 5 dollars for a bust, and 7 to 10 dollars for a full body drawing. An extra 2 for coloring.

>>90853754

https://youtu.be/Kuc9c9_Acrk

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>>90853754
>I'd never pay $15 or more for a bust
by any chance are you taking about artistic busts of the derogatory term bust?

>>90860210
>of
I meant "or"

>>90851281
What shady shit are you talking about? I'm genuinely curious

>>90835591
My goal now is to make a bunch of fan animations and then return to OCs after a 100k+ subscribers. I wish I could make OCs all the time, but people always want to see Sonic the Hedgehog do something silly.

>>90828274
His fart fetish art isn't even good. It's mocked throughout /d/ and /aco/.

>>90828274
>animated james
disgusting

>>90853355
To be fair, there's a few old school animators that clearly branched off of YouTube but still have a passion. Like, for the past year or so Psychicpebbles has been streaming work on hellbenders, though I'm pretty sure they're getting it on tv

>>90860887
good luck

>>90861706
Thanks!

I know I'm not the best animator, and I know that Youtube has pretty much made it so that it's near impossible to be a successful animator unless you got a team, but I see so many people do what I want to do and are able to do it for a living, I just want to keep on trying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oy2KUQzQOc
Haven`t upload in a whil tough.

Sexual Lobster, hands down.
>>90853255
My sibling of blood relation with a y chromosome

>>90853591
Five cents a scribble

>>90853217
golfinho literally rips off (like actually steals art and assets) off of old newgrounds cartoons from catoblepas, ansel, and w-p-s

as expected of someone from Brazil

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>>90849579
post it

>>90852776
They made it up.

>>90853843
>not knowing how much furfaggots are willing to spend in order to get their fix
i personally know a guy on FA that only does "your oc here" orgys. Hes been known to make as much as 7000 dollars a picture.

>>90864699
>Hes been known to make as much as 7000 dollars a picture.
time to make an FA

>>90864699
>$7k a pic.
If web animators quits, it's guaranteed they either do freelance, become LPers, or draw porn.

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>>90849579
>Jaltoid hentai

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>>90850304
Man, that was a good episode.

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>>90853514
>>90853355
>It's ironic that they talk about how "you shouldn't go into animation for the money" and yet they won't shut the fuck up about how little they get.

People say not to get into animation for the money because if your goal was just to make as much money as possible then there's a lot more careers where it's easier to achieve that. Even in the realm of art. At the same time they're still adults with financial responsibilities. They need to eat and pay bills and plan for the future. If YouTube doesn't provide them with enough to live, they spend their time focusing on things other than making content for YouTube. Doesn't make them sellouts.

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>>90839281
To think 2 years later Stev would mutilate himself and become the worst podcast member

>>90850672
Ken is like Pan is Pan tried to grow a pair but failed miserably at every level because he still has a "no balls droppin'" voice and stutters a lot
I remember when everyone hated Ken but as soon as he leaves everyone wants him back

>>90828274
Max G, A.K.A. that guy from Brain Dump.

>>90851693
>Literally why

>>90868215
>that pic
Holy shit kek

>>90851906
t. jealous cuck
You'll forever be a talent less cuck and will never get into the industry.

>>90868803
t. degenerate puppet
If I'm jealous of anyone, it's Don Bluth. But he's a great man, so it's all good.

>>90868898
>Don Bluth
literally who?

>>90868971
Oh hell no -- now you've fucked up you piece of shit

>>90869014
Stay mad, fag.

>>90869068
Fuck you

>>90869096
Stay mad, fag.

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>>90869096
Calm down, autist boy.

>>90869125
Fuck you

>>90869150
Stay mad, fag.

>>90869180
FUCK YOU

>>90869234
STAY MAD, FAG.

>>90850244
you fuckin new to /co/?

>>90869268
NO, YOU'RE THE FAG

>>90869349
NO, YOU SHOULD GO FUCK YOURSELF.

>>90869428
NO, YOOOU SHOULD GO FUCK YOURSELF

>>90869483
NO, YOOOU'RE THE FAG.

Psychic pebbles. Hellbenders is the shit!

Ive met James several times at the Pony con scenes. He's even showed up at an after party or two I've been at.

He just seems so... depressed. He's in this constant state of "I hate this thing I'm good at and I don't want to talk to anybody but I'd feel guilty if I didn't."

>>90869517
I BET YOU SMELL LIKE A DIRTY ASSHOLE

>>90869607
I BET YOU SMELL A SHITHOLE THAT IS UNCLEAN.

>man hijacks a thread by samefagging

>>90869679
I've met web animators several times at the Gaybar scen. They even showed up at an after party or two I've been at.

They just seems so... depressed. They're in this constant state of "I hate this thing I'm good at and I don't want to talk to anybody but I'd feel guilty if I didn't."

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>>90869068
>>90869068
>>90869096
>>90869125
>>90869150
>>90869180
>>90869234
>>90869268
>>90869349
>>90869428
>>90869483
>>90869517
Get a room guys.

>>90869883
Totty is best boi

>>90853377
Here's the way I figure it...

Jon said some dumb inarticulate shit but nobody wanted to get involved because it's nothing that concerns them. As you mentioned, this Destiny guy is a nobody. After fucking around with Jontron a shit-ton more eyes were going to be on him for a few days. Literally a single day later he says some super stupid shit so a lot more people take notice including Jon's pals.

It's been pretty well documented that this guy routinely goes around being a massive "edgy" loud mouth. He merely attracted a larger audience to trigger after the Jon debacle.

>>90870130
i want to suck juice's dick platonically

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>>90870130
>>90870548
You guys spelled Ichimatsu wrong.

>>90870254
To add to this if your issue is that these guys should be more concerned with chastising Jon for racism than defending their career choices I guess that's just an ideological disagreement.

>>90860056
Finally. I remember someone posted him on here once. he had something under 300 views for his prank time video at the time. Even if it is gross out humor its pretty fucking solid and the fluidity of it is on point.

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>>90870810
>implying i dont identify as ichimatsu myself and get the juice dick

>>90828305
Why is the first post always the best?

>>90831747
Great animator but fucking terrible writer

>>90871303
I don't understand why he doesn't find someone to write for him. There would be tons of people willing to do it for free just for the "experience".

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>>90828274
>fav web animator
>no one's said this creep

The fuck, /co/?

>>90871400
Isn't he working on that one movie with Flying Lotus?

>>90852453
heres what jon had to say afterwards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIFf7qwlnSc

>everyone complains that youtube animators should go get "real jobs"
>one day they all do exactly that
>everyone starts complaining that they don't upload anymore

Is there no fucking pleasing you people?

>>90871749
>>everyone complains that youtube animators should go get "real jobs"
>>one day they all do exactly that
What? The only person that has a real job is Egoraptor, doing voice work for CN, Adult Swin, and a few other shit. Everyone else just likes to sit on Twitter all day while relying on their Patrons for financial assistance.

>Is there no fucking pleasing you people?
I don't wan't to be pleased, I want to be entertained.

>>90871470
Yep, Kuso.

>>90871610
thanks
well from this it sounds like nothing happened and everyone lost their shit over nothing
again

>>90871749
RedMinus made a tweet saying that he did exactly that, and it's so fucking true.