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What fictional character do you hate the most?

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What fictional character do you hate the most?
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>>90808173
OP.
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>>90808212
but OP is real, and we all have to live with the fact that the world can produce such a faggot
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>>90808230
How do you know OP is real?
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>>90808173
I can't top this. Mabel was a cunt, but she was also twelve years old. I blame Hirsh more than anything.

There are lots of other characters that do objectively worse things. But Brian's smug liberal narcissistic nihilistic hedonistic douchebag persona hits one nerve too many.

It's everything wrong with Bush era liberalism, but worse somehow.
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>>90808251
Cocks don't suck themselves, some one has to do it.
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>>90808230
What are you doing
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>>90808272
What about Lisa? Even Brian gets shat on more than she does in their own shows.
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>>90808173
for once OP nails it
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>>90808322
I'd specifically just say modern Lisa is the one I'd hate, before then she seemed to hover between average 8 year old girl from the early 90's to hippie freak, but now it's pretty much full blown "I'm the writer's mouthpiece" or "I'm a perfect liberal Hippie, oh my god, cultural enrichment and knowledge"

Though really, I'd say everyone in modern simpsons is unlikeable
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>>90808315
I don't think you understand how those numbers work.
Your screencap shows 3 posts and 3 unique posters.
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Mabel
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>>90808173
Isn't he supposed to be unlikable?
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Probably peggy hill.

Brian's obviously done worse shit but king of hill is way more grounded in reality than family guy so a lot of outrageous shit that happens gets a pass because its the nature of the show.

Like the fact that quagmire is an actual rapist. Peggy does slimy shit in a realistic setting and in a more grounded way.

You could almost believe peggy is a real person because her dickery is relatable
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u bitch!
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Me.
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>>90808173
Rick from Rick and Morty. He's the poster child for the "happiness is a myth and love is just biologic chemistry and the reason I'm unhappy is because I'm smart enough to see reality really sucks and everyone who is happy is either an idiot or faking it because they are a big fat phony!" philosophy

They basically took Holden Caulfield's character and made him a genius. He's still an annoying, miserable cunt who sprouts random bullshit and justifies his unhappiness as some type of testament to his intelligence instead of the truth that he's just a jackass with mental/social disorders.
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>>90810640
that would explain why he's so popular with teenagers and millennials
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>>90809002
what has she really done though? other then be self absorbed?
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>>90810640
Holden Caulfield is an idealist who struggles with growing up and facing the fact that the real adult world is incompatible with childhood innocence. Rick is just ">tfw to intelligent" and nihilist douchebag.
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>>90808173
abrahamic god
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I don't really think i despise a character in any cartoon as much as i hate bubblegum and the people that STILL support her after all the shit she's pulled.

fuck this bitch, and fuck anybody trying to defend her in this thread.
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>>90810640
sooo there's literally nothing wrong with rick?
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>>90811132
anon what about any of that is a good thing and doesn't make rick shit

i really want to know what you think
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>>90811061
epic 2009 reddit humor my fellow gentlesir.
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>>90811102
I don't hate her or anything but I think it's incredibly boring that they spent like two years hyping her up to be shady, sinister, verging on full-term villainy, but then totally backpedaled when another character gave her a stern talking to for ten seconds now she's trying to be super nice. It's just like what was the fucking point dude.
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>>90811274
When did she get a talking to?
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Anne Frank
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>>90808173
i love his relationship with Stewie. and I liked his earlier role as the voice of reason.
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>>90811920
When she tried sabotaging Flame Princess' kingdom and FP blew her the fuck out and called her a terrible person.
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>>90811132
The thing wrong with Rick is that he doesn't have the will to change and has embraced Nihilism to mask the pain. It's alluded to that this was probably the result of losing his wife.

The problem is that teens and young adults watch the show and don't think "Oh fuck I need to change and improve myself and be a better person to those around me, otherwise I can end up terribly alone and in pain." But instead think it's cool to be the loner misunderstood reject of society. They don't see their isolation as a choice or a concequence of their actions. Instead they attribute it to some innate characteristic of themself like Rick's intelligence.

Most fans of the show completely misinterpret the meaning behind the show. It's like that stupid catchphrase Rick says all the time. The writers literally made bullshit to mock the terrible pop culture shit that catches on, how it has no meaning or people spread it without actually know the value of what they say. And the fans do just that.
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>>90808173
After a few months of watching FG before Toonami I've realized that Brian is far from the worst character on the show.
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>>90812107
I've always hated how inconsistent the character is. Seth uses him as the voice of reason and mouth piece for all the liberal bullshit aka his personal views and social commentary on the world.

Yet Brian is regularly portrayed as a racist and overall horrible person whose views are completely at contrast with how the world works. I feel like if the show was self aware it could be amazing but instead it's just oblivious and comes off as inconsistent.
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>>90808173
Quagmire's still worse
Of all characters to have give Brian the business about being a terrible person, they made the literal rapist do it
Quagmire even admits that he "uses women for their bodies", and acts that acknowledging it somehow makes him a better person than Brian

Not only that, but Brian has been shown to be a fucking idiot time and time again. Not once has the show ever admitted that Quagmire was in the wrong. He's fucking untouchable. Even when he gets called out for statutory rape and given a trial, he gets out of it by first blaming his mother, then his mother just sleeps with the judge to get him out of any jail time. Some of Brian's best episodes are when he crashes and the show makes him out to be a person genuinely struggling with his issues, which would never happen to Quagmire
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>>90808173

Shinji from Evangelion

The pigs from Animal Farm. When they sell the stallion to the glue factory for booze I want to make lamp shades out of them.

The version of Peter Parker that was willing to trade his marriage to the devil
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>>90811023
>Holden Caulfield is an idealist who struggles with growing up and facing the fact that the real adult world is incompatible with childhood innocence.
He had a warped view of the world and needed a good spanking.
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You're in a room with Lisa Simpson, Brian Griffin and DW Read. You have a gun with one bullet. Everybody in the room, except for you, can only die from a gunshot wound. Nobody can escape the room. Shooting yourself does not harm or alter your body in any way. The room does not have any tools that can affect anybody in the room. The gun itself can not harm or alter anybody in the room, only the bullet when it is propelled from the gun.

Which one do you shoot?
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>>90810919
remember when she was writing really popular house cleaning tips in a weekly column in the arlen newspaper? remember how she was a minute away from publishing an article telling the whole city to mix bleach and ammonia? she almost got the entire town to commit suicide.

remember when she was a substitute teacher and she started beating kids in class? then when she was validated by weird parents she went nuts with rampant physical abuse to her students, throwing morals to the wind for the sake of impressing strangers and stroking her ego?

peggy is fucked up.
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>>90812420
Quagmire is morally the worst character on the show. He did that big rant to Brian, yet he is a murderer, rapist, statutory rapist, kidnapper, animal abuser, and despite criticizing Brian for similar things he also tries to have sex with Lois, he actually DID have sex with Cleveland's wife which caused their divorce and eventually lead to him leaving the town, and he has several known children who he doesn't support in any way. He uses his cop friend to avoid getting punished for any of his crimes. And the worst part is he thinks it's all excusable because he's a "fun guy to hang around with" and he's "honest about it".
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>>90814645
>not wanting your hot teacher to paddle you
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>>90808173
God.
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>>90808173
It's hard for me to pick who I hate most in Family Guy. Everyone is such an insufferable asshole in it and it's really annoying when the writers try to force heartfelt moments on characters who are convicted sex offenders or child abusers.
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>>90814645
>remember how she was a minute away from publishing an article telling the whole city to mix bleach and ammonia?
I don't remember this. Why would she do it?
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>>90814746
She read it on 4chan
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That goddamn robot in Treasure Planet
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>>90814604
What's wrong woth you?

The only one who needs to be there is DW.
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>>90814780
*with

fml
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>>90808173
Most hated fictional character is Diane from Cheers, but Brian is probably the /co/ character I hate the most.
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>>90814746

Because she was being a idiot and posting fake facts in a newspaper without thinking what they result
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>>90811102
Porn
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for me it's the annoying orange, the most hateable character. close second is angela anaconda.
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>>90808460
Eh, Lisa still can be a typical 8 year old, even now. It depends on the episode. It's kind of jarring how one episode she can be mature beyond her years, the next episode she can be a whiny, entitled know-it-all-know-nothing no one likes, and the next one after that she can be a sweet little kid, who has actual kid problems. It's not consistent, but it's also unfair to say she's merely the writer's mouthpiece. They seem to put out an episode or two a year where she's just a kid being a kid.

>>90814645
>remember how she was a minute away from publishing an article telling the whole city to mix bleach and ammonia?

Peggy DID publish it. The whole third act of that episode was a rush to steal all the newspapers in Arlen before people had a chance to read the deadly mistake.

There are tons of other Peggy examples too. Remember that time she smuggled an underage Mexican girl into the country? Or that time she got sucked into a pyramid scheme and tried to fake her own death repeatedly to get out of it? Or that time she faked being Catholic to get a cushy gig at a Catholic school, despite knowing nothing about the religion. Or that time she got conned by a conman, so she planned to con him back, and if that failed she was going to steal his car. Or that time she repeatedly drugged Hank without his knowledge causing him to go through puberty again and causing his testicles to shrivel to the size of raisins.

That's just off the top of my head too. Hell, I think you could also make a case for her killing Cotton, considering he goads him into dying on his death bed, and then lies to Hank about the details of his passing.

But that all said, there are reasons why Peggy is a great character. She's the show's most consistent antagonist, and it's all the better for it.
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Why am I incapable of hatred
I guess the closest thing would be Moral's dad on the hunting trip. Drunk people who act like assholes are really annoying and need to just be tied down and gagged till they're sober
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>>90812420
Brian is a drunk though
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>>90815109
I'd love to shove a broadsword down his mouth.
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I don't hate her because of what her character -was-, but what her character -wasn't-.

She seemed so confident and headstrong in the first season, I was hyped for her. I wanted to see her become the badass avatar to contrast with the happy-go-lucky avatar that Aaang was. Instead, they whittled away at her every season.

Korra basically hit rock bottom, and she never really recovered. I can only assume that this was to make her more relatable to the audience or some shit. She honestly just came across as weak after season 3, and the show went downhill with her. (From what I understand, this was entirely due to budget, and not what the creators intended at all).

The one moment that stands out to me in season 4 was when she manages to stop the spirit canon. She was finally tapping in to her full potential, but we only got to see 5 seconds of it in the last episode.
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>>90815176
Be prepared to pull out a shish kabob of twinkies, burgers, pies, cake and other shit fat ugly children eat an ungodly amount of.
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>>90815079
Peter's more of a drunk than Brian
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>>90814604
I'd shoot Toby twice.
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>>90812670
The entire book was literally a warning to teenage shitheads about what happens when you stay a shitty teenager and call everyone else phonies

The book ends with him in a mental hospital still refusing to change
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Allen Gregory.

It's Allen Gregory.

in fact, i will pay anybody in here £100 if they can give me 3 positive things about that God awful character
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>>90817105
He had a good fashion sense
In one episode, he pets a cat
He...uh, he donated money to a homeless shelter. This episode was never aired and no hint if it can be found on the internet
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>>90810640

I agree with you

except that was exactly the type of character they wanted out of Rick
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>>90812420

There's a difference between having a bad record, and being a fucking cunt

Quagmire's issues don't annoy the audience
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Rebecca Sugar keeps forcing him down our throats. This wouldn't be such a problem if he wasn't completely fucking IMMUNE to character development. We have someone genuinely nice like Sadie wasting her time on him just because the show likes to hamfist this "there's good in everybody!!" message.

If there's a nice side to everyone then fucking SHOW this. I don't mean through great characters who we knew were kind to be redeemed from a mile off, I mean shitbags like this.

It's not hard to get the SOL/filler/side character episodes right. We've seen it happen before. But part of what makes them work is that things change about characters. Each one leaves a lasting impact. But there have been like 4 different instances where Lars should have stopped being a fucking asswipe, but he goes straight back to being one every time because Rebecca Sugar wants to milk these two OCs like a cow until we're all sick of them.

Christ.
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>>90817440

Lars and the Cool Kids is literally the only episode they needed for Lars

Everything else is forced
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>>90810919
She can't tell whos in the Spanish class she's constantly subbing for and as a results kidnaps a girl who obviously doesn't want to get on the bus
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>>90817440

>The Vacation episode was Sadie's fault regardless of what happens in it

>The episode ends acting as if Sadie being disappointed is in the right

What the fuck is the message sugar
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>>90814645

>mix bleach and ammonia

w-w-w-w-what is that b-b-b-bad?
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>>90810919
Pushed an RV into a lake with people in it. It's near impossible to open car doors while submerged.
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>>90817500
That's bad yes, creates a toxic gas. but if shake up a bottle of acetone and hydrogen peroxide you'll make a nice cleaner.
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>>90808978
In the original run, he was actually a respectable character.
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>>90808173
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>>90817954
mac is literally the worst friend you could ever have, i hate this fucking kid cause he acts like such a smart ass, everybody say's bloo's bad, but at least he's not a complete tool like mac.
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>>90808322
Lisa is an annoying cunt but at the same time, most children are annoying cunts and she has been shat on throughout the show whenever her behavior went too far.

With Brian, he's the equivalent to a middle-aged man who should know better and yet he does things that can't even be excused as a result of being young and stupid like Lisa or Mabel.

He purposefully fucked Quagmire over just so he could get a bonus from his real estate job, a job he only got because Quagmire did him a solid.

He purposefully left Stewie to rot in a shitty daycare center because he wanted to sleep with the woman in charge, and only bothered calling the cops when he found out she had a boyfriend.

He purposefully tried using his son to become a writer for a TV show and otherwise gave no fucks about him before he found out that he was a TV star.

And he purposefully GAVE STEWIE, CHRIS, AND EVERY WOMEN HE SLEPT WITH HERPES!

Quagmire's a serial rapist and yet he's more sympathetic than Brian.
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>>90809002
Peggy did some bad shit but you couldn't really say that it was purposefully malicious.

She fucked Lucky out of earning his GED but she only did so to stop her niece from becoming poor white trash (then Luanne gets pregnant anyways but whatever).

She kidnapped a Mexican girl but it wasn't on purpose and she returned the girl as soon as possible.
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>>90817440

>steven takes over his body and fucks with his life
>everyone acts like lars is the bad guy when he gets mad at him

That's such fucking horse shit
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>>90812420
It all comes down to portrayel and how often their behavior affects the plot.

Quagmire's a serial rapist but it's rarely shown and when it is, it's either played off for laughs (owing up to the show's warped sense of comedy) or the characters stop him from taking shit too far, like when Peter and Lois confronted him before he could fuck Meg.

Brian on the other hand is the cause of many problems during the show and rarely does he make an effort to change his behavior or receive punishment for his actions.

He leaves Stewie to rot in a daycare center and the worst that happens is he finds out the woman in charge has a boyfriend.

He gives Stewie herpes but the worst thing that happens is he loses a date and his fb profile is changed to a herpes outbreak.

He shits on Stewie as his agent and the worst that happens is he gets embarrassed on a show and gives Stewie a backhanded apology.

And he never learns from his mistakes and that's what makes him so infuriating
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>>90818445

>only bothered calling the cops when he found out she had a boyfriend

This was played for comedic affect so it's not a good judge of his character. The tone during events like this is key.
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>>90808272
I almost feel bad for what they did to him despite the fact he's not real, because in the beginning of the show, he was just a drunk jaded normie douchebag who happened to be a dog. They flanderized the fuck out of him after his fallout with Quagmire and made him a reprehensible piece of shit just because people weren't picking up on the subtleties of his earlier character. He was never likable, but it at least used to make sense as a joke that he was just your everyday asshole in a dog body.
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>>90817440
it's because they are one of the few town people that are bearable

which of course they have to fuck that up to
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>>90818738
He literally held Stewie down and popped his dislocated shoulder back into place just because he didn't want him to tell until he, and I quote, "saw every inch of [whatever the fuck the daycare worker's name was]'s naked body."

It's one thing to do a transition like that for comedy, it's another matter entirely when you fuck over your best friend, as well as all the other children in the daycare, just because you want some tail.
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>>90810640
>"happiness is a myth and love is just biologic chemistry and the reason I'm unhappy is because I'm smart enough to see reality really sucks and everyone who is happy is either an idiot or faking it because they are a big fat phony!"

It's the very type of people he is talking about that get mad at this, though. It's not entirely portrayed in a positive light, it causes his family all kinds of problems.
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>>90818843

that wasn't played for laughs?
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>>90818792
Before the cancellation though, Brian's character was pretty fucking solid. He was the straight man to Peter's wacky antics, he offered solid advice whenever Peter needed someone to talk to, he reacted to Stewie's megalomania with indifference, which made earlier "Road to" episodes so unique.

Then after the movie, Quagmire's rant, and his death and revival, the writers just made his personality even worse because they felt as though they can get away with more.
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>>90818715
I thought we were supposed to feel bad for Lars because he's been exposed to the idea that everyone he knows hates him and would like him better if he just became the exact opposite of himself
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>>90818862
Only in the sense that watching Peter eviscerate a whale with a forklift was "played for laughs."
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>>90817105 among males, Akane Tendo among females.
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>>90818889
Exactly.

If I knew it would be like this I'd have preferred he stay dead. As fucked up as it seemed at the time.
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>>90817484
>>90818715
If anything Lars is Justified to be a jerk at this point because everyone has shown that they don't give a shit about him, as a person.
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>>90808272
It's like the FG writers saw all the letters calling him a Gary Stu author avatar, so they overcompensated big time.
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>>90818913

its shit humor. No one judges peter for that shit.

>>90818890
>>90818961

All the teenagers were giving him shit for being mad at steven. I'm pretty sure the show had steven in the right as he was innocently trying to fix lars life.

Like his intentions mattered more than what he did.
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>>90818961
He started it. If I acted like that in high school everyone would hate me too.

I really hate people who don't take any accountability for the way they treat others, then turn around and act like it's all a product of their victimhood. People like Lars need to swallow a few teeth.
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>>90812420
>Not once has the show ever admitted that Quagmire was in the wrong.
So...Quagmire's the Hank Hill of Family Guy?
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>>90812670
Threadly reminder that Holden Caulfield killed John Lennon.
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>>90819003
>No one judges peter for that shit.
It's because Peter Griffin is a Mary Sue who the show still tries to paint as sympathetic even while he blows up several hospitals.

It still has nothing to do with the original point of Brian being a douchebag who deserves all the hate that he receives, especially when he does it in the show, rather than in a cutaway like Peter Griffin's antics.
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>>90811956
Napoleon didn't successfully annex Germany, but he should have.
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>>90817507
In her defense, she didn't know he was in there. Otherwise, that episode is always a gem for how Peggy gets a taste of her own medicine AND nearly gets arrested.
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>>90819045
>If I acted like that in high school everyone would hate me too
Standoffish and rude? Plenty of teenagers act like that already. ESPECIALLY when dealing with over eager 12 year olds.
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I really REALLY hate Pearl.

She´s a moralic disaster of a character. She mostly handles in her own favor and wouldn´t even fight for Earth if it wasn´t for Roses female dick.
She is an ungrateful, bitter, autistic, arrogant, smug, ugly, incompetent, hypocrite, passive agressive piece of garbage and gets way too much focus on the show, which is probably why her character is detailed enough to hate her.
She always ruins everything for everyone else and is a massive dick to everyone she disagrees with.

Steven Universe does have a huge amount of unlikable characters, but P*arl is the tip of the iceberg.
I hope she dies in the end or something.
God I hate her so goddamn much.
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>>90814803
yeah I never liked Diane and didn't get why Sam did
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>>90817440
>We have someone genuinely nice like Sadie wasting her time on him
Sadie waifucuck detected.
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Ahsoka Tano, poochie to end all poochies. Anyone who likes her is either a literal child with terrible taste or a pedophile.
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>>90819278
>P*arl
Why the *?
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>>90819275
Yeah they are mimicking jaded adults, they think it's normal to be rude and shitty to each other and that's why "bullying" is more of a problem. They have more outlets through which to torture one another and commit suicide more often because of it.

Plus Lars is the only townie who acts like this. Sour Cream and Kiki are cool af.
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>>90814604
you can make them stand single-file and hope the bullet penetrates through all of them.
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>>90819278
I hate Jasper more. At least Pearl has a personality even if it's a bad one, while this retarded looking orange piece of shit get sympathy points for god knows what.
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>>90814713
Edgy.

>>90808173
Is there any character in Family Guy post-revival that's likable?

>>90812420
Also, this. Quagmire is shit.

>>90814604
Brian.
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>>90817325
Your mileage my vary.
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>>90819278
>>90819988
Pearl and Jasper are the best, Peridot is the memey annoying retard that I want to see get shattered.
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>>90808173
>>90812420

Brian is more of a tragic asshole. He's a guy with a moral compass who ignores it at a moment's inconvenience whenever it suits him. He's the principled man who has no fiber to keep to his high standards.

I think it's a great character, even if it is so head-achingly frustrating with his hypocrisy.

Quagmire on the other hand is just morally dead inside. It's been the running gag for the entire show so we don't care much about it anymore, and so we're comfortable with it and don't make it such a big deal.

TL;DR Brian changed and that's why it's fresh in our minds, Quagmire has basically stayed the same and that's why we give him a free pass.
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>>90820044
In some ways Lois is actually worse than Peter. He at least has a smidgen of excuse for his actions by being literally retarded. Not saying it justifies them; the guy would probably have been institutionalized long ago in the real world. Lois meanwhile became a bitter sociopath out of frustration for marrying a guy who seemed to carefree and fun but still nice deep down, finding out his true nature, and falling out of love and into barely concealed hatred for him long ago. So now she takes out her anger on her kids and occasionally other people.

What would you think of FG having Lois finally give in and divorce Peter? And they'd stay divorced for at least a season; no easy backsies like Stewie bringing back Brian.
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>>90820100
Lapis and Jasper can fuck off. Peri at least started out kind of cool and then she just became the autistic self-insert.
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>>90820245
You have a point. But I was fucking dying when I saw this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKmruC-sMqo
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>>90820297
Deutschland war ein Unfall.
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>>90814604
easy. I put them in a line with dw in front and then I shoot near the gut and hope it goes through everyone and wait for them all to die of blood loss.
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>>90814746
because she got a job as a journalist, realized it was only for cleaning tips, and then made something up to keep her job.
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>>90819729
No, Sadie is also pretty bad and lied to keep them on an island because of a very stupid reason.
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>>90808173
I don't really hate characters when it's painfully obvious their are being written like that, like Brian.
Now, Lisa Simpson, that's a character I hate.
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>>90819820
because they forgot they were on 4chan and not tumblr
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Princess Peach and practically the entirety of the SU cast.
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>>90820284
Tfw lois will never beat you
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>>90815023
But he was still an asshole even when sober though
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>>90814604
DW in an instant
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>>90811102
Well that's because she runs her kingdom like a malevolent god to toy with its inhabitants as she sees fit.

It's odd that the vampiric offspring of notsatan is more of a decent person than sentient candy.
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>>90820297
honestly I feel that the people who call themselves "nazi's" in this day and age are either edgelords or inbreeds. let them gather so we can laugh at them
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>>90819820
It's a meme, insinuating the *ed word is too foul to be said in polite company.
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>>90819820
To reference Pearl's true nature as the first Darkbeast.
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>>90820576
>Princess Peach
I see someone got TURNIP'd
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>>90820926
JOOZ RUIND MUH TOONZ WALT DINSY HATED JOOZ TO LOOK IT UP
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>>90809002
Agreed as soon as I saw this post I instantly thought of Peggy I love KOTH I watch it almost everyday but I can't stand her
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>>90814696
He also plans to have sex with his daughter when she is of age.
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>>90820926
As """""liberal"""""" as Family Guy can be, they sure seem to like their /pol/ memes, esp. regarding Mort Goldman.
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Lois, She's honestly just as bad if not worse than brian and quagmire combined.
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>>90817954
>>90818117
Man, I don't remember Mac being that bad.
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>>90819988
Jasper only gets plus points in my book because big dominant women are my fetish.
But you are right. She´s pretty unsympathic.
>>90820100
Peridot is ok, even if she is an annoying gremlin.
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>>90820994
Mm, at least she didn't frame Hank for murder, unlike Buck Strickland. But then she is in the show a lot more.
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>>90821048
Family guy is "liberal"? My impression is that they shit just as much on either sides, Brian written as a douchebag with liberal tendencies to appear like a better person gives me that impression.
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>>90821048
They also like doing "black people jokes" when they really are just basically saying LOL NIGGERS ARE DUMB AND VIOLENT
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>>90808173

Pennywise from IT.
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>>90821356
it's the same reason why it's okay for them to make rape jokes the show make a lot of money
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>>90818916
>Akane Tendo
While Shampoo and Ukyo are superior, Akane isn't too bad usually.

It's just that Ranma goes out of his way to antagonize her.
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>>90819278
I hate Pearl because the creators expect her "TRAGEDY" to excuse all the terrible things she does.
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when i was watching the simpsons i always hated her character and the episodes with her main focus
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Didn't he have a complete mental breakdown the second he realized he was an idiot
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Never forget.

This nigger probably gets more ass than a toilet seat. He shows the ladies his tattoo and they get as wet as Bikini Bottom.
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>>90821535
I think you're supposed to remember the cosmic scale at which gems live.
The fact that she hasn't really moved on from a loss she experienced a decade or so ago is constrasted by the fact that the diamonds also haven't moved on from their loss and that happened aeons ago.
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>>90814728
Lois
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>>90820284
That was actually pretty funny
>ARE YOU TRYING TO GET A RISE OUT OF ME
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Aw, only one?
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>>90821949
But the tragedy and trauma she has experienced should not excuse her from the awful things she does. Jasper is also revealed to be a tragic character but nobody tries to make excuses for her actions because of it.
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>>90818858
It causes his family problems because, like, there not intelgent enough to just put up with Rick being an asshole. He's more smarter than them and they should just accept that, because he's so smate, that he's always right. That's why stupid, dumb, idiot Jerry is considered an antagonistic character: because he just won't accept that Rick is going to constantly endanger the family and traumatize Morty.

Basically, while Rick endangers all his loved ones, he's still the victim because he's so smart and deep, and anyone who goes against him is not smart and deep and is obviously the bad guy.

Calling it "Reddit the show" may be a meme now, but it has some truth to it still.
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>>90821708
Go fuck yourself. Like youve never made a bad decision
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>>90823218
Are you that guy? Whoa.
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>>90812670
Too bad his parents weren't around to do that for him.
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O from Savages
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwwiope5DpY
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>>90821949
it's fucking insane how slow they develop. I don't think I've ever heard of an organism that develops so slowly mentally. Especially when they have created galactic space travel.
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>>90808333

To be fair Stewie was being retarded for asking to do that blood bond bullshit to begin with, what the fuck did he think was going to happen?
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>>90821328
Initially Brian was more of the "liberal voice of reason" as opposed to the "liberal douchebag hypocrite". Similarly to how Stewie was originally an evil genius or something before they just made him a gay baby.

Either way, Seth MacFarlane is liberal as fuck.
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>>90821535
This
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>>90827032
Not contract Herpes
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>>90827032
At the very least, he'd expect his friend to warn him before committing to the blood oath.
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>>90808173
Mugan from Samurai Champloo, but since this is /co/ going with Harley Quinn. Even when I was only 4 when I first watched Batman I never saw her as anything more than the irritating sidekick. Dee Dee from Dexter's Laboratory is close in second.
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>>90810640
Except that's exactly what he was meant to be, and you're only supposed to empathize with him because of how disconnected he is from reality, not because "he's got it all figured out!"
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>>90820100
Peridot used to look like a small adult instead of a toddler and not be a memey fuck but then we got retards for storyboarders and the memebarn.
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fuck ronaldo lol
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This cunt stain
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Gosh al mighty Just look at this h*cking boob head just wanna slap my uncut yam across his stupid smug face (sorry for bad language I'm from Albania)
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>>90808173
>Most unlikable character is the creator's self-insert
Pretty funny.
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>>90814803
>tfw Diane is the closest thing you have to a /tv/ waifu but everybody who watched the show hates her

Don't get me wrong she was a flake and a self-righteous cunt, but she got what was coming to her so often that it evened out and all you were left with was this charmingly perky, pliable and idealistic young blonde with a really sexy voice

As for an actual answer to this threads question, Wheelie from Transformers. There is literally nothing to like about him. His voice is so modulated it's barely comprehensible and it's also screechy as fuck. He exists only to take the role of the token kid-friendly character from Bumblebee and failed at it.

And somehow, he beat up fucking Grimlock
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>>90810919
she killed a guy
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>>90819988
>>90820259
>>90821272
From their individual stand points Jasper, Pearl, and Lapis are all sympathetic in a way but Jasper wins for me.

>Lost the Diamond she was made for
>Not only that but witness her get shattered
>Culprit was never brought to justice
>Is now trapped on the planet where she was both made and lost her diamond
>Can't even confront Rose Quartz and have the chance to bring her to Justice
>trapped in a fusion for long enough to become addicted to both being fused and loving abuse
>Can Never fulfill the purpose for which she was created

Lapis and Pearl are second and third in my books.
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>>90817440
That's not Ronaldo
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Matt, the astronaut rock star chad.
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>>90817440
all the townspeople of steven universe are unberable,all episodes of the townpeople are horrible
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>>90829814
Rose is the character I hate the most in SU. Everything about her is just sketchy but what pisses me off the most is how she just fucked off and left Steven and CG's to deal with all the bullshit she was the direct cause of.
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>>90829934
good thing that was intentional in the show. although i think they didn't do a good job in bringing up that dilemma in storm in the room. Steven brings it up and then she says, "you know i wouldn't lie," how the fuck would steven know that she wouldn't lie, he's never met him. its all just based on fucking propaganda from the CG's. He's starting to question and oppose the CG's and what hes been told from them but then the crewniverse fucked that by having Steven submit to that propaganda
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>>90828911
holy shit fuck that guy
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Fuck Miko.

She somehow manages to be hard-headed, insensitive, and a liability all at the same time, constantly. I really don't know how the writers managed it. It takes effort to write a character this annoying.
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>>90832279
It's called being an unemphatic, stubborn, spoiled child
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>>90808173
I don't think I've seen a cartoon that ruined all its characters like Family guy did
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>>90829570
>most unlikable character is the creator's fursona
FTFY
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>>90808333
That is the one and only time Family guy made me feel physically ill. Who the fuck thought that would be funny?
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>>90810640
To be fair, they keep showing that he is absolutely miserable being the way he is. He is a genius, but his view on everything makes his life crappier than anyone else's.
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As far as ive heard her. Shes a terrible friend, even the rich blonde girl who has the hots for ginger is a better friend than her
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what happened to Family Guy? I remember when it was just a silly stupid show that was fun to watch. Now it's all pedophile jokes, gore, and racism.
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>>90835218
>gore

I noticed Spongebob is doing that gore shit to

Squidward losing his toe nail? Fucking disgusting
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>>90835147
She was just terrible in a general sort of way really. Like the episode when she started reading the list of kids who had lice over the intercom.
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What the fuck was her problem?
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>>90830769
"You know I wouldn't lie." That's a damn lie right there, we already know she's lied. Fat bitch lied about what happened to Bismuth!

That episode was a mess. Also, the fuck is Rose's room even for, what's the point of it making those illusions anyway?
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Your girlfriend.
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>>90835527
>Also, the fuck is Rose's room even for
Clearly, it's the un-personification of being a BIG FAT LIAR
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Quagmire
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>>90835939
Amen to that brother.
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>>90809002
I don't like Peggy as a person but I find her hilarious.
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>>90835527
I have no idea what it's for. I used to think that it was there to teach Steven but I highly doubt it since Steven has only used it three times throughout the show. The episode itself was such a disappointing, probably the most disappointing episode I have watched yet. Again instead of developing Steven as a character he continues to submit to the propaganda from Rose and the CG's (who they themselves believe in the same propaganda). The main problem of the show is that it's a show about "love;" isn't Steven fighting a several thousand years old war that he inherited from his mom? Doesn't sound like a lot of love is going on here. Sounds like a lot of death, loss, and despair. This show is so confusing
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>>90843512
>>90835939
It's not the war he inherited but the fallout from the war, her responsibilities, her lies, her secrets to discover, and her blame. And it's not a bad thing that the CG's are still following the leason they learned from Rose or even that they've been trying to paint her in the most positive light possible. It's that they've been keeping so much about who Rose was and what she did from him that it came back to blow up in their faces.

The other thing that get's me though, is that Rose didn't even need to give Steven her gem. He could have been a normal boy and I know she couldn't have that homeworld would just leave Earth alone. She literally ran the fuck away from everything she did and left all on Steven and the others shoulders.
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>>90810640
I think it's less "HAHA I SO AGREE WITH HIM" and more "holy shit this dude has structured his life to be terrible and it kind of impresses me he's this miserable all on his own effort" kind of thing.
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>>90821708
YOU DOG
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>>90825242
They live for basically what seems like indefinitely unless killed so it kinda makes sense
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>>90810640
In the first season I feel like they got Rick just right. He was an asshole who nearly everyone bar Beth either hated or was antagonistic towards him. He did have his occasional humane moments, but rarely did we see him alone or without another character to bounce off.

See, I feel that Rick only works as a character who is 'observed' by others but rarely 'observes'. He is an enigma, no one can figure out how he works, what makes him tick, perhaps not even him.

I feel though that Season 2 wrecked his character for me is that we saw things from his point of view. You are absolutely right in that he became a genius version of Holden Caulfield, who we were supposed to like and believe had a point every time he speaks.

It's something I always appreciate about Clay. He is a understandable character, but never is he treated as blameless like Rick. He is shown to be a depressed and miserable character who is ultimately pathetic while Rick is shown as being more intelligent than others because he is depressed. It honestly pisses me the hell off as mental illness does not fucking work like that. It influences your mind, but it does not excuse you from your actions
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>>90828631
Explain.
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>>90811102
Agreed
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>>90814761
I saw that movie for the first time yesterday and THIS. He brought the movie down for me. The rest was pretty damn good, but he was just annoying as shit
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>>90829814
>From their individual stand points Jasper, Pearl, and Lapis are all sympathetic in a way but Jasper wins for me
Ditto man, those three are honestly the only characters I give a shit about in SU and even though they've all done a lot of questionable shit they have justifiable and sad reasons for being fucked up. I wish they'd do more with Lapis because I really hate the position they've put her in with Peridot, the show in general has so much wasted potential. Garnet and Peridot have become the worst gems to me and all the townsfolk excluding Greg are pretty awful.
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>>90808173
This motherfucker
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>>90835147
>even the rich blonde girl who has the hots for ginger is a better friend than her
>even

Courtney was a pretty good friend, if not socially retarded. She doesn't deserve to be even compared to the piece of shit that was Dodie. Miranda being the "even better" friend makes more sense
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Barry Allen.

Not even memeing.
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>>90820044
Joe and Cleveland are pretty inoffensive. Joe's basically the new Meg.
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>>90834590
>not the episode where Stewie gets pregnant with Brian's babies
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It is a tie between Steven Anita Smith, Bloo, and every single character from the show "Stunt Dawgs" because fuck that entire show.
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>>90850626
I totally get you, anon.
I don't particularly like PB, but when he monumentally fucks up her perfect sandwich was when I knew I could never enjoy any scene he's in.
Fuck Cinnamon Bun.
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>>90835218
to appeal to teenagers
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>>90814645
Eh, while I don't discount all the other bad things Peggy does, I have mixed feelings on shit like paddling. Students can be little fucking shits. You can send them to the office, give them detention, suspend them, and they'll still act like little fucking shits.

At minimum, while I don't know about teachers giving physical punishment, it should definitely be fine for parents to do it, as long as it's something like actual spanking and not real child abuse. You don't have to hit a child hard at all to punish them, the act of smacking their bottom and the fact that their parent did it usually leaves a much larger impact than the physical pain, you don't need to actually hurt the child and shouldn't. Paddling isn't going to leave lasting damage as long as the one doing it isn't a sociopath using all their strength.
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>Finn becomes an asshole over time
>Jake's worst traits become more apparent
>PB turns into a tyrannical monster
>Ice King gets a tragic backstory
>Lemon Grab, just him entirely
>Finn's asshole dad, abandons the kid twice
Yet somehow I the one that makes me tear out my hair in Cinnacuck.
I swear it's the spongebob level retarded character immediately swooping in and stealing his buddies ex, brain cells, and power.
Everyone else I've listed is objectively worst is but this this piece of sugary shit gets under my skin the most.
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>>90808173
Is there any character on that show that isn't repulsive ?
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>>90850703
>Garnet and Peridot have become the worst gems to me
>Garnet
Hold on there, cowboy, I'mma need you to not talk shit about best mom. I would like to know why you think her character has gone south though.

Peridot, I can understand because I was hoping she'd have alot more involvement in the group. Especially considering it seemed like they were going to have more interactions with the tech from homeworld. But now she's just at the farm.

Lapis, I understand being there though, she's been stuck in a mirror for over 5,000 years. The woman needs to be someplace she can just breath and roam around and do whatever.

I feel for amethyest a lot as well and there's poor Centipeetle as well.

>All the other townsfolk excluding Greg
Mr. Smiley is just trying to run his businesses. Why does he run so many of the places in beach City anyway, what is that?
The Kofi's are generally chill, I mean the Dad is a little intense but not too much I think. And an Argument could be made for Jenny and her leaving Kiki to cover her shifts but that's typical teenager stuff.

The Fryman's are pretty ok with the exception of Ronaldo and even then I don't think he's too bad. He just needs to learn when to stop.

Buck and his dad are cool. His dad is kind of a workaholic and is under what seems to be a fair amount of stress. And Buck has always been cool aside from that episode with the shirts.

Sour Cream is the coolest of cool, fuck Marty though, and Vidalia's pretty awesome from what we've seen of her. We haven't seen a lot of Yellowtail but I like him and Onion is my precious demon child.

Sadie's only done one thing that wasn't on the level and Mrs. Miller is well meanimg but pushy sometimes.

Lars...well we know how Lars is. He's done some shit and he's probably the worst of the teens but he is still a teenager. He's got time to grow up still. His parents seem very nice. I still wonder where they were during The Return though.
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>>90856071
In terms of moral character? Maybe Meg. She's supposedly repulsive in terms of appearance though.
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And I didn't even think it was fucking possible to hate the main character of a show. I really don't give a fuck what happens to her, I'm more interested in the secondary main and the side characters. She just seems to fuck everything up.
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>>90852589
>>90850626
He was half baked, so yes he was going to be not all there. He's fully baked now that he's been living in the Fire Kingdom though. I really like what they've done with him.
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>>90856179
Oh it's possible, I have a friend whi hates the MC of most of the animated shows he watches.

That aside though, the show is the showcasing of her strange and dangerous teenage adventures. And teens fuck up a lot, I'm not gunna say she aways makes things worse but she doesn't always help.
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>>90829533
Yep fuck Damian!
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>>90818728
Did you miss the part of that show where they show Stewie to be an insufferable faggot who kills people?

Brian is a mild annoyance at best. Compared to actually bad characters he's harmless.
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>>90848413
I havent watched SU since they beat the green hand ship, so is rose alive or what?
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>>90814604
That's actually pretty tough. Brian is the worst character, but Lisa does the most damage to her show. With Lisa gone, Simpsons would improve at least a little bit. With Brian gone, Family Guy would stay exactly the same, so I think I'll have to say Lisa even though I dislike Brian more.
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Fuck y'all im just here to watch cartoons.
> Deep meaning in cartoon shows
lol
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>>90856328
A mild annoyance is losing your car keys because you put them in the left pocket instead of the right.

Giving your best friend's children herpes, selling a mutual friend a shitty house and gloating once you find out that he's stuck with it, leaving toddlers to rot in a shitty daycare center JUST to try and get laid, pretending to be a marine's dog just so you could fuck the marine's wife, etc. are not minor annoyances.

These weren't even cutaway gags, these were plotlines for actual episodes. I mean yeah, stewie murdered people but that's been a part of his character since the beginning of the show.

Brian used to just be the straight man, voice-of-reason but now he's a self-gratifying alcoholic liberal douchebag who'd proabably sell Stewie into slavery if he thought that it'd give him enough dosh to hire a hooker.
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>>90856713
>pretending to be a marine's dog just so you could fuck the marine's wife
What? Has that really happened?
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>>90856839
Can confirm, saw it on youtube. He didn't know the girl had a boyfriend when he picked her up and when he walked up on them, she claimed he's the new pet. So he played along to not be beaten and shit. Probably shouldn't have fucked the girl after that.

>>90856713
But really, Family Guy characters have no consistency. They are vague archetypes that can be favorable or unfavorable depending on how writers feel like. There's no point in caring about them.
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>>90856889
Family Guy characters have consistency, it's just that nowadays they fall into three categories. They're either a) irredeemable assholes, b) space fillers, or c) punching bags.
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>>90856839

Yes That episode aired again here last night. And the parts where he pretends to be a dog when the marine arrives home are actually funny.
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>>90856959
Sometimes irredemeable assholes turn decent for a period of time if a gag demands it. Sometimes punching bags turn into assholes.
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>>90849685
You're speaking sense, especially if you refer to Clay Puppington.
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>>90856348
Only in the sense that she's still inside the gem, but actually in the show? No.
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>>90814604

Killing Brian wouldn't work, he'd be back from the dead in 2, maybe 3 weeks tops.
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>>90852500
This, so much this
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>>90828911
I can't stand this fucker, I am watching Rocknaldo now just because I don't want to miss any of the new episodes but I wish he would just get institutionalized or something.

Fuck I hope he doesn't start getting more screen time now that he knows the deal.
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I've noticed that a lot of characters that were somewhat coherent and or likable end up being written in a way that makes you automatically hate them. Family Guy, Gravity Falls, Simpsons, Steven Universe, Adventure Time, and so on.
It's especially insulting when they do it for something like, an out of place joke, an Agenda, or a crutch for a dumb plot.
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>>90814913
Yeah, but isn't the point for him to be hated?
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>>90811102
I fell off of watching AT shortly after the end of the Flame Princess arc, either that or the thing with Finn's dad.

What's so wrong with PB?
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>>90814604
Line em up, Brian first, Lisa second, DW third. I don't really care about DW - she's obnoxious as fuck but the show is pretty clear about her being a huge bitch and she's also really, really young.
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>>90855804
the worst thing CB does is be really boring.

in the past he was never that interesting either but at least he was good for some gags (can I hold that for you sir? okay) and now that he's smart and competent he's still boring but without any of the funny. he was the worst part of that episode about the little bun girl.
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>>90814761
The one with the memory loss?
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>>90861848
People always hated her because she friendzoned Finn and is secretly a mad scientist, so she must be Mengele.

She has been shown to perform fucked up experiments like on those little farmer people. But the show fed into the idea that she's this evil mastermind without ever really delivering any solid reasons as to why.

My guess is that they're just retarded Marcelinefags or something. I stopped watching around the same time as you and it never made sense. I always thought FP was way more annoying and seemed like a shitty self-insert.
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>>90819058
Hank's in the right for like 95% of the show though, and he's a good man.
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>>90828911
he's literally us, you know that.
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So tired of this miserable cunt. Muh mirror, muh Jasper, muh self loathing, I hope she gets shattered.
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Katara.
>damsel in distress who is a token love interest for most of the show
>becomes a titanic edgelord immediately after the Day of Black Sun and does nothing but angst over Zuko for the rest of the show
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>>90862187
I think every SU character has it's own large group of people who hate it and another large group of people who love it
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>>90862328
nobody seems to *hate* Garnet, they just think she's boring and mary sue-ish. But otherwise yeah, you either love or hate most characters either way.
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>>90862328
>>90862453
oh, and I think everybody hates memedot at this point. the few people who still call themselves fans of her still hate the changes her character made after she moved into the memebarn.
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>>90862510
as someone who doesn't watch SU period my favorite is perimeme because she's cute
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>>90862559
I like her design the most too. I just wish the people in charge of her character weren't so insistent on her being cancer.
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Superman
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Why does Seth hate religion so much?
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>>90862701
Just see him in his execution. I think that he is prettier than Ouma since he doesn't has that dumb curvy hair.
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>>90821181
He's memeing, Mac is usually pretty reasonable, on the other hand Bloo is a fucking dickhead.
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>>90856136
I don't hate them and I'm not saying they're the worst cartoon characters ever, but they're all either badly written or don't have anything going on that makes me care about them.

I get that Garnet is supposed to be the stoic leader of the CGs, but ever since season one she has been less of a badass and more of a bore. All there is to her now and days is the fact that she's a fusion, she has no plight and doesn't ever do anything but keep secrets away from Steven and crack one liners.

Peridot is an unfunny and annoying comic relief character who seems to have been flanderized into being a quirky zim clone since season two.

Lapis went from being cool to being pretty useless like Peridot. She has/had a lot of potential and the stuff with Jasper/Malachite was great but it just ended up leading to her being the depressed wooby she is now, and a character revolving around their sadness and depression and constantly being coddled over it is just uninteresting. It makes me wonder why she's even in the show at this point. I hope a miracle happens and they decide to do something with her soon.

I agree that Amethyst is good, she isn't as much of a trainwreck as Pearl and Jasper and Lapis but I still sympathize with her and love the growth she's gone through.

As for the townsfolk (minus Greg), none of them ever actually go through any character development, none of them are interesting or original, and every episode centered around them since season one has been shit. They're all terrible.
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>>90829721
Well she killed a furry so that counts as a good deed.
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>>90809002
Hank is way worse. He blew up the Mega Lo Mart you know.
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I honestly wish they kept him dead. The Italian mobster dog was so much better and had a lot of potential
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>>90821048
liberal != tumblr sjw
For as much shit as Seth gets for shilling liberal views on his show you can't call him an sjw.
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>>90862835
Because it only takes at half a brain to realize that religion is cancer.
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>>90862966
No he fucking didn't. The Mega Lo Mart exploded because of Buckley being a dumbass and busting open a fucking propane tank.
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>>90817500

That makes chlorine gas, soooo pretty bad, yeah
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>>90814645
>Inadvertently almost kills an entire town of people.

I guess she and Mabel have a lot in common
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why does everyone hate Mabel so much?
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>>90814746
Thought it would make crystals
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>>90864269
I think they're mostly projecting. Everyone knows at least one saccharine spoiled girl who is immune to criticism. But those people in real life are usually horrible and Mabel is a 10 yo girl.
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>>90857888
Yeah, I am referring to Clay Puppington. He is honestly the 'asshole sitcom father' done so, so right.
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>>90864269
Because she's an obnoxious dumb bitch.
>b-but she's a kid
Doesn't make her presence any less unbearable.
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>>90864269
Ingrained misogyny.
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>>90864934
Most girls that age are actual psychopaths though.
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>>90849845
He was pointless after his initial use of being a thing to cause a rift between Daria and Jane and also making Daria more human by actually stealing her friends boyfriend behind her back. Then he became boring and never acted like a teenager or have any real part in any of the stories afterwards. He would just be there now and then to simply challenge Daria's viewpoint on something (which anyone could do) and then end scene. He sounded like he was in his 30's and the way he acted far more mature than someone in their teens even compared to Daria. When Daria would not open up over something like a typical moody teenager does, he calmly says "Well I can't help you unless you tell me what the problem is." like the guy has been in multiple serious relationships over the years and has dealt with this before.
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>>90835386
Being too smart for her age which made her an outcast that caused her to become jaded with society and never had a real friend until she met Jane. Also doesn't help she has a younger sister that's loved everywhere she goes despite not having any character outside of always looking attractive.
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>>90865229
There's no such thing as being too smart for your age ... There are just hordes of other people that are wastes of life.
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>>90862892
this
fuck bloo
literally the conflict causer in 90% of the episodes, was completely useless in all of the movies
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>>90815263
The main problem with Korra I say it's the series in general. Its just way too disjointed.
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>>90856179
I thought the same thing but at least she gets pretty good character development, even if starco got fucking retconned into place because muh blood moon
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>>90862138
no
he's an over-exaggerated strawman character that needs to fucking burn
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>>90865709
look at yourself
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>>90865719
anon what does that even mean
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>>90865733
you're the meme.
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>>90862138
And I hate us.
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>>90819109
No, John Lennon's obscene preachiness mixed with his ridiculous hypocrisy of jumping on every bandwagon 'spirituality' trend while simultaneously decrying how religion is killing society is what killed him.

Also some crazy guy with a gun, but whatever.
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>>90864767
13*
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>>90864973
>People who don't like this one female character are misogynists.

Okay.
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>>90865748
Not them, but you're an idiot.

I have a low opinion of the average 4channer, but not that low.
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>>90866196
It's not that they don't like her, it's because of why. It's a meme to hate Mabel when there are so many other terrible characters that /co/ loves like female Deadpool or Marceline.
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>>90866401
>Disliking a badly-written character is a meme.

Okay
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>>90866462
Yeah, when the general consensus is to be a giant salty hypocrite, absolutely.
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>>90827425
>>90821328
Yeah, adding onto that, watch the first couple seasons of American Dad again where Haley is shown as being entirely right and reasonable and Stan's 'lesson' is always how his right wing ideals are wrong in some way.

That fucking gun episode where he reasons "My daughter would never shoot me, which means the GUN did it! Guns are bad!" So glad Seth left and turned AD into one my favorite shows on the air.
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>>90814930
>faked her own death

I actually don't remember this one.
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>>90866953
I do recall that other episode where she and Dale were in that shed that exploded.
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>>90866953
When she got into the cozy kitchen pyramid scheme
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>>90867135
Ok, it's coming back to me. I think I only saw that episode once, where I've seen most of KotH at least twice.
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>>90863370
wtf i hate religion now
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>>90863370
heh... tis the truth.
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Bulldykes

Its aids in the cartoon world
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Korra
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>>90869204
>attractive short haired woman
>bulldyke
Yea you don't have a bias or anything. At least post an Anka pic to prove your point better.
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>>90862138
>not Cartman
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They almost ruined the movie.
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>>90811956
I want to fuck her.
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>>90818934
Same here, I was pissed when they brought him back because the whole thing just felt cheap.
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>>90871084
I did not know that the one on the right was supposed to be a girl until long after I saw the movie
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>>90871308
Same for me for the hyenas
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>>90864269
She never gets comeuppance when she's wrong. She's always treated as being completely right. Dipper literally gave up his dreams and threw away his future because Mabel didn't want to grow up yet. What's going to happen in five years when they want to go to different colleges? Well, Mabel just learned that if she throws a temper tantrum, Dipper will change his entire future to make her temporarily happy, so looks like Dipper's not going to a good school.
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>>90871094
woah there mr mangum
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>>90866401
What's wrong wirh Marceline?
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>>90815263
> "I'm the Avatar and You have to deal with it!"
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>>90873356
*with
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>>90819820
I honestly thought it was a Friends reference.. am I alone?
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>>90821577
Lisa is an unbearable piece of crap, true.

She was a harbinger of what would come later on. Now we're all living in feminazi land.
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>>90808173
snarf snarf
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Being in the laziest movie of all time didn't help either.
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>>90862916
>keep secrets away from Steven
That's another thing, we have no idea what those secrets are, thus we have no idea of the weight that they carry. Even then though the biggest secrets were kept by Rose and Garnet may not even know what those are.

I really think Peri is just enjoying not having to take orders anymore. She's embracing the freedom she's found on earth, there's nothing wrong with. At the same time though, I do agree with you to a certain piont, it does seem like they've exaggerated her a bit too much.

Lapis is in recovery, that's the long an the short of it for me. She and Peridot are still adjusting to earth and being in beach city (for now anyway) wouldn't help them very much.

Amethyest isn't a trainwreck anymore (or as much of one), they've given her a great character arc and I'm really glad she's in a healthier place.

The thing about the towns people though is that we don't see them all the time because steven doesn't. He spends most of the time at the temple or with Greg. We see them as he does, so of course they haven't gotten much developement. But what they have gotten is good:
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>>90814704
>hot
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>>90835341
>Like the episode when she started reading the list of kids who had lice over the intercom.

that sounds fucking hilarious. Don't remember this show much but god damn, that's some next level evil grill shit to pull. Why are women so horrible to each other?
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>>90862138
>us

No. He was tumblr and epitomized the "victim hood" mentality.
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>>90808173
Daria from MTV show with the same title.
Basically the same as>>90810640
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>>90810640
But you're not supposed to look up to Rick, that's the whole fucking point. He's a miserable douchebag who ends up in jail by the end of season 2 by being an insufferable genius so disconnected from reality.
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>>90866401
>it's a meme
Kill.
Yourself.
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>>90814604
Lisa.
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>>90817440
Lars is such a fucking cunt.
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>>90810640
That gives him room for character development.
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>>90817954
Mac was the physical embodiment of "no fun allowed". I mean Frankie more or less fulfilled the same role as him, except she was actually funny. I can't think of a single episode focusing on Mac that was actually enjoyable.
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>>90875198
Yeah seriously nobody in the show likes Rick, not even other Ricks. His daughter and grandchildren only put up with him because he's family and Morty naively looks up to him because Rick chose Morty as his "favorite"
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>>90809002
I'll take Peggy over Bobby any day. Peggy would at least be good to have in a fight, while there is literally no value to Bobby.
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>>90874975
(Con't)
>Mr. Smiley and and failed comedian partnership
>Kiki dealing with her stress and resentment towards Jenny
>Jenny promising to be more responsible
>Sour Cream and his issues with wanting to a DJ and Yellowtail's worry about him
>Vidalia and her relationship with Amethyest
>Onion's group of friends he meets up with in the summer
>Ronaldo's past with Lars and his girlfriend
>Lars' Parents
Sadie's crush on Lars, her singing, finally standing up to Lars after who knows how long
>Mrs. Miller who's overzelous and push a little to much when it comes to Sadie's interest but only because she wants her to happy and do what she loves

There's other things I'm forgetting, but they aren't flat characters. Just because we don't know much about them doesn't mean they're boring. We can't know that because we haven't actually seen that much of them.
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>>90875133

dunno if that's fair, daria is just a punk ass teenager, and she improves a lot by the end of the series. while i enjoyed the show i can definetly relate to people who are annoyed by fans who idolized daria. daria is not a role model!!
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>>90875133
Though Daria can occasionally act more sensitive and more humble, whenever she finally gets that it's the right thing to do.
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>>90875053
She wasn't doing it to Ginger, she wasn't on the list. Courtney was though and Ginger had to race to the front office to stop her. Which never made sense to me because where the fuck where the adults while this was happening.

>that's some next level evil grill shit to pull
It was some vile shit, man. IIRC, the reason she was some bs about her being a "News Woman" and that it was "her job" to "expose the truth" or some shit like that.

>Why are women so horrible to eachother?
Pettiness mostly, I think.
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>>90871094
>(You)
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Fucking Jimmy Pesto.
WHY CAN'T BOB JUST GET ONE GOOD, SOLID WIN OVER JIMMY??!
Sure he's Baby Num-Num, but Bob had already shaved his mustache before he found out that factoid.
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>>90875564
>>90875588
I liked the show, but Daria... Bitch was so overrated, hated all the world while nobody was mean to her, stole her only friend's boyfriend. She wanted people to notice her and become popular, but resented the fact she was not popular. The show played way too easy for her, she never took a stand in anything but pretended to be like a heroine and blah blah blah, Daria was so overrated, the character and the show.
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>>90811102
Peebles did literally nothing wrong though.
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>>90808315
Um dude, that 2 and 0 aren't the amount of users, that 3 is.
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>>90862835
Seems more and more people are going athiestic and agnostic nowadays.
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>>90838805
Quagmire's like one of th more likable characters of the show though, which says a lot about the show.
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>>90851712
The best kind of soccer ball to use.
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>>90876295
>Um dude
That post was made two days ago, somehow I don't think he's here waiting for you to type at him like a child.
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How about which character that /co/ hates, do you like or dislike less?

For me it's Korra, everyone fucking hates her and hates her series. I don't think it's an amazing 10/10 series, but if you go into it not expecting avatar 2 - then it's a decent 6/10 or so.

Lesbian end was stupid as fuck.
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>>90875964
She's a fully grown Lisa
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>>90871084
OY VEY
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>>90871084
Everything wrong with that movie, and it was the gargoyles that "almost" ruined it?
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>>90875403
>THAT'S MY PURSE
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This faggot is just a complete failure as a villain.
Probably one of the worst parts of the show.
No idea why people circlejerk over him so much.
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>>90817440
Lars is basically Squidward except instead of making you laugh, he makes you wanna choke him no matter what he does.

What the fuck does Sadie see in him?
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>>90872509
>>90875699
I don't know this meme Tbh laddie
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>>90808173

Bryan is Reddit in cartoon form
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>>90875403
Maybe before Season 4/5. Post? Fuck Peggy with a stick.

Then fuck Bill. He has shit moments but he also has redeeming moments.
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>>90863370
*Tips fedora towards you* Heh, right on my enlightened brother. Those idiots need to realize that their invisible man in the sky just isn't real *vapes*
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>>90812670
To be fair Holden Caulfield isn't really presented as someone to admire, he wanders around and almost freezes to death whining and crying, drunk dials a girlfriend so she gets pissed at him, almost fucks a teenaged prostitute, gets beaten up by a pimp, and winds up in a mental hospital.

That said he's like the author and from everything I hear J.D. was a total cunt and a fucking crazy asshole who abused everyone in his life horribly so hey.
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>>90818961
>>90818890
We see Lars' parents tiptoeing around him, trying to appease him and get him to do better.

The other teens hated his shit because he was one of 'those' pricks in high school we all knew or were that acted like fake shit and was a total dick to anyone else. He treats Steven like shit.

Yeah it's fucked that Steven does take over his life, misguided intentions, but a douchebag is still a douchebag and a douchebag does not socialize with a lot of people without most of them going "Fuck off"
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>>90818889
Essentially the CARTOONS CARTOONS pilot is what you want.
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>>90811102
Peebles is weird. People are right that she's shown as a sociopathic dictator and a borderline evil mad scientist at time but then other times we're supposed to feel sorry for her? We even learn when they add the Bubbline backstory that she dumped Marceline without even telling her which made Marceline even more fucked up. But we're supposed to like her? I don't know. She's basically a supervillain. It's okay if the show acknowledges that.
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>>90811102
The porn makes up for the bullshit she did in the show.
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>>90863370
>>90869095
>>90869162
>>90878417
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>>90821535
I disagree that it's supposed to excuse her at all. Pearl is called out for the awful shit she does all the time. The show and other character know she does terrible shit and never pretends otherwise. But all the characters have done awful shit by now...
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>>90878346
Someone who has a fat fetish and will therefore stick his penis into her. I'm not even joking, that's a huge portion of it. The rest is mainly her projection of him showing occasional bits of being a genuinely good guy being something she can eke out of him. The fact that the staff thought anyone would like this sort of shit while pushing the gems aside is the asinine crap that shows how they really don't know what to do with their filler episodes.
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>>90808173
>lol rednecks: the character

Even Scrappy Doo was less obnoxious.
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>>90878710
Because the staff got most of their ideas from Tumblr fan-fiction, and fan-fiction is a hotbed for shit story telling, plot devices, and god awful ideas on relationships.

Most famous examples; Fifty Shades of Gray and My Immortal.

Seriously, look at any fan fiction with the romance tag and nine times outta ten you'll find a very unhealthy and shitty portrayal of a relationship. Usually centered around being "misunderstood" and sex.
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>>90811102
>they solved the unrequited love of Finn with PB and Marcy by flipping the script on the love triangle
>over six seasons establish a brand new love triangle implicitly
>flip the script on THAT one the exact same way
LONG WAY AROUND FINNCELINE WILL WIN
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>>90878774
Rebecca herself is a former fanfic writer isn't she?
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>>90878827
Yes. Yes she is.

And whats-her-name, the one that really fucking pushed the Peridot and Lapis ship was a deviantartist and fan-fic writer, I think.
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>>90878827
She did draw EEnE yaoi and had Invader Zim OCs, so yes.
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>>90878774
No argument there. Tumblr and their ilk are a hotbed of terrible ideas about romance, and the fact that a lot of the influence the fandom puts forth results in stuff like this just grates on my nerves.

>>90878781
I know this is pretty unrelated, but I still can't believe Marceline's mom was black yet not voiced by an actual black person. One of the more actually shocking things I actually saw come out of the show.
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>>90878888
I thought Rebecca was actually pretty decent at voicing a black lady. Surprised there wasn't any backlash over it but people always seem pretty divided over how the voice actor's race fits with the characters race.
Nice quads.
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Shapeshifter managed to be a better villain in one episode than Bill was in the entirety of two seasons.
He was a disappointment from the very start and no amount of cryptic predictions and """""""""""horror""""""""""" could change that.
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>>90878314
Explain.

>im not asking.
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>>90878928
I thought it was well delivered and wouldn't have thought anything of it if I didn't recognize her right away.As an aside, I'm not necessarily a fan of it being a thing, but that's more because I don't understand why they made Marceline's mom black in the first place.
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>>90879009
It wasn't what I thought of her as but I'm not entirely against it either. It does follow some paths, like the VA is half black I think, and Marshall sounded pretty blatantly black so his genderbend self being that too makes sense I think. Like I said just because the voice actor is a race doesn't mean the character has to be the exact same, but it seemed tasteful and subtle to me so I still don't get why /co/ tore their asshole apart in rage. Guess this place is just so politicized that that's what people immediately jump too.
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>>90878976
I thought he was really great until about the last three and a half episodes or so personally. Never make your children's show villain omnipotent.
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>>90878984
I found him boring and cartoonishly evil, he has no charisma whatsoever, no hint of menacing presence, all his dialogue is shit, his motivation makes it even harder to take him seriously and for a psychological horror villain he was criminally unthreatening. Didn't help that the show itself took potshots at how pathetic he is.
Powers don't mean shit when a villain is a joke. You can say all you want about that he's supposed to be a manchild, but there's plenty of villains who pathetic and childlike, yet are just menacing enough to be taken seriously.
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>>90879061
She is, but I still find that kind of a weird thing to do just because. Jack's voiced by an African, but that doesn't mean we need the character to be Afro Samurai. Plus, given the climate around such things in media at the time, it's understandable why /co/'s collective anger was stoked and why doing something like that was not a necessarily good move. Personally, I hate it because it is now considerably harder for me to enjoy Marceline stuff now. I also don't understand how you think Marshall Lee sounds black. Not saying you're wrong, I just don't personally see it.
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>>90878864
Lapidot is just fucking cancer imo. I don't get why Lauren likes it at all. I really can't think of one positive thing that has fucking happened after they started living on that barn.

They haven't evolved, they haven't figured out how to act more human-like, they haven't even learned how to act like an adult and say sorry, when was the last time any of the gems said "I'm sorry"?

Lapis is an unapologetic bitch and Peridot is an annoying little gremlin cunt now with telekinetic magnet powers that came out of fucking nowhere with no explanation. Great character development Sugar.
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>>90879296
She looks sad and guilty when she says that line but the actress delivered it like she dgaf it was strange.

The main Lapis and peridot issue is that the plot has stalled and they have nothing to do, no one has anything to do.
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>>90810640
I agree with much of what you and others have said.

But I would add any person I have ever met who thinks they can relate to Rick the most is always an insufferable fuckwad.

They're dirty, lazy, narcissistic, wise cracking pseudo intellectual fuckheads....not misunderstood geniuses surrounded by morons.
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>>90818500
>but she only did so to stop her niece from becoming poor white trash
All she did was guarantee Luanne would become that, though.

She didn't try convincing Luanne to look for someone else, she just tried to bring Lucky lower and lower and expect a naive girl like Luanne to suddenly be disgusted with him. To nobody's surprise, it didn't work.

As a result, she pretty much made sure Lucky remained a redneck.
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>>90879271
Just the tone of his voice, and he was rapping pretty hard. I think even if I didn't know who was voicing him I would think "Sounds kind of like a black dude" when listening.

And I don't really think people making cartoons are that submerged in the political landscape that people on /co/ were, I'd be very surprised if they were doing it to pander or whatever. I think it was more likely they were just trying to add variety to the characters and stuff, something like that.
And with the voice thing like I said, it doesn't 100% mean they're the same, but sometimes it does, you know man?

I feel like it's just because everyone expects white to be the default and any divergence from that makes people think it's pandering or an agenda or something like that, when it might just be stuff representing reality or trying to make things interesting is all.
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>>90879374
I'm with you on pretty much everything but the rapping. More races than blacks do that.
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>>90879271
>Not liking chocolate Marceline
You some sort of racist?
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>>90817440
Unless they go super off-kilter and have an episode of just him and sadie, so you can see their dynamic without outside interference, then he's never going to work.

It's weird because we get instances of characters without Steven all the time, and they end up being the most defined (Garnet, Greg, Pearl) largely because they don't have a shitty character like Steven shoving himself into their development.
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>>90879533
I don't honestly find black people attractive in the slightest, but there's a different reason for it than that.
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>>90879553
Now you have me intrigued.
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>>90879566
It's not that interesting, I swear.
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>>90879505
It's stereotypical but sometimes it works to easily get the point across, you know? Sometimes when you're dealing with characters who are like fucking half demon vampires you have to use methods like that if you're trying to say what they are.
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>>90879061
Oh please, /co/ is the most tumblr board out there. You'd have to do some seriously stupid shit to piss them off.
>>
White birdo, you will never be able to unsee it.
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>>90879580
Come on, that just makes me want to know more.
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>>90879587
Even if we have Tumblr blood the 4chan roots are present, and those roots lead to shouting NIGGERS anytime one appears on screen.
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>>90879618
Fine, I'll tell you, but don't say I didn't warn you.
The reason I can't enjoy stuff with Marceline anymore is because I can't separate the fact that she's a half-black paranormal creature from another one: Blade. Every single time, this thought creeps into my head and ruins everything quite quickly. I've been dealing with this problem ever since the episode aired and it just won't go away. Do you know what it's like to deal with something like this? Every time I feel like looking up some Marceline porn, I can never enjoy it because I inevitably end up envisioning the fucking movie with Wesley Snipes. I don't even watch them anymore, but the fucker won't stop showing up in my head. Wesley Snipes keeps ruining my fucking enjoyment of Adventure Time porn, and there's nothing I can do about being cockblocked by an imaginary figment of a fucking Marvel character.
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>>90879725
What the actual fuck
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>>90879725
What?
Did the tax evasions really fuck you up that bad? Shit man.
If true this is some of the most esoteric shit I've seen on 4chan in a few weeks.
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>>90821181

He actually is pretty awful when it comes down to it; we see more than once that he's perfectly willing to throw Bloo under the bus to get what he wants.

Plus every single bad character flaw Bloo possesses is a reflection of Mac's own problems, which won't be resolved because of the arrangement he has with Madame Foster to visit Bloo.
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>>90879725
holy shit anon
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>>90879725
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>>90879725
I just don't know, man.
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>>90875757
Well Bob did get him to sign up for like 30 subscriptions to a magazine about turtles once
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>>90811102
she is the strong iron fisted queen pol creams themselves over.

you need a hard ruler for a hard land
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>>90880135
>He doesn't like strong iron fisted queens

Also that webm.
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>>90880135
Is this some kind of weird button porn?
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>>90880624
>what are these busty sluts doing it must be a button fetish film
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>>90879725
I totally understand you, anon.
You are not alone in this, but I have it with all sorts of other characters as well.
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>>90880135
Anyone got the code?
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>>90881107
>there are TWO people in the world who can't masturbate to black characters because they think of Wesley Snipes
what a fucking learning experience
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>>90881175
No, A half black vampire character.
Get some reading comprehension.

What you just said amounts to "there are TWO people in the world who can't masturbate to vampire/human/literally anything characters because they think of Wesley Snipes".
It's a specific two character instance, not "no nigs ever".
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