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MARVEL ANNOUNCES SECRET EMPIRE: BRAVE NEW WORLD

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Patriot back!
http://nerdist.com/marvel-announces-secret-empire-brave-new-world-exclusive/
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>Now Marvel is announcing Secret Empire: Brave New World, a companion series to Secret Empire which tells the story of how the Marvel Universe at large deals with the truth about Steve Rogers. The new series, which is set to debut in June, is written by Paul Allor (Uncanny Inhumans) with art by Brian Level (Deadpool) and an army of Marvel’s top creators following suit and detailing how every corner of the Marvel Universe lives in a world overrun by the hordes of Hydra. Brave New World calls out to the larger Marvel Universe as it encounters its darkest days and gathers an army of creative talent to tell the tales of how some of Marvel’s heroes – The Invaders, Blade, Gwenpool, and the All- New Patriot stand united against Captain America and Hydra.

>Due to the manipulations of the Red Skull, Captain America now leads the Hydra charge against the entire Marvel Universe; under this new regime, Earth’s protectors are forced to come to grips with the revelation that one of their very own is now their greatest enemy. An essential companion series, Secret Empire: Brave New World expands on a world under the boot of Hydra and how Marvel heroes, from every corner of the globe, must band together against Captain America—including his oldest allies from World War II, The Invaders. Issue #1 is written by Paul Allor, Jeremy Whitley, and Nick Kocher, with art by art by Brian Level, Diego Olortegui, Will Robson. Issue #2 features art by Brian Level, Tana Ford, and Juan M. Frigeri. Both issues go on sale this June, and you can preview the first two covers down below.
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>>90792833
>written by Paul Allor
Who?
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>>90792833
>the All- New Patriot

I guess we now know why Eli Bradley hasn't been around for a while . . .
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>>90792814
Is this Eli or someone else in the costume?

Also is he on a Goblin glider?
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>>90792934
I think it's Ted.
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Who are these made up writers that nobody knows
Is it supposed to inspire people to lose confidence in the event, because that's what it's doing
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>>90793309
people lost confidence in it when it was revealed Magneto was joining Hydra
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>>90793309
The next generation of Marvel wirters.
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>>90792833
>Miles Morales showing up in all these variants.

He's gonna have a prominent role, isn't he?
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>>90793908
>Covers*

Why the fuck did I say variants?
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PATRIOT! YES!
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>>90793908
Yeah, it's onvious editors and Bendis hijacked this event pretty badly and are shoving a lot of unecessary characters.
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>>90792833
>gwenpool
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Read only the Spencer issues and pray his story won't be derailed too much by other characters no one gives a shit about
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>>90792833
>Gwenpool
>Whitley
Geez I wonder
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>>90794150
what if I don't give a shit about HydraCap, FalCap, and NuFalcon?
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>>90794150
>Read Spencer
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>>90792814
Is that sam? Rage?

I think marvel won't use the young avengers one, he was omitted in a flash back panel with his teammates.
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>>90793908
You don't think them reusing that splash page of Miles killing Cap in Civil War 2 over and over again was just reusing art to pad out a terrible event, did you?
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>>90794393
Then read something else.
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>>90793908
Miles is the one who is gonna stop it. By snapping rogers neck.

Marvel probably will use waids time displaced cap from 85.

Also this is proably the frist event where earth gets taken over for a while.
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>>90792934
Well iron patriot was norman, this guy seems to borrow normans motif.

Coustime has parts of sam.
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>Eli with Jeffrey Mace costume
nice
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>>90795302
Eli isnt coming back. Says all new.
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>>90793355

Why would he do that?
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>all of those artists

just how rushed is this gonna be?
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>>90792934
> goblin glider

You mean Cap Glider
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>>90795329
It's an anthology book, dumbass.
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>>90792833
>Miles and Riri on the same team
>In less than 1 year Iron Heart has participated in 2 events.

Is this how you sell a character?
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So assuming it ends exactly how we expect, with Miles murdering the fuck out of Cap, will we get a moment of temporary lucidity, where the normal Steve resurfaces and he gets to see everything he's worked for be annihilated?
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>>90795318
because Spencer is a hack who coasts on controversy
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>>90795401
it'll end with a Cosmic Cube rewriting everything so HydraCap never happened
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>>90794150
>Reading Spencer at all.

I want the 'He's a good writer because Superior Foes' meme to die.
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>>90796369
He is a good writer though.
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>>90792934
>>90795355
It's a freedom glider motherfuckers.
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>>90792894
He did some pretty neat stories at the end of Fred Van Lente's G.I. Joe run. A lot better than Van Lente himself, actually.
>>90792814
>All-New Patriot
FUCK
OFF
WITH
THAT
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>>90796369
What about he's a good writer because HydraCap?
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>>90792814
Another Tie-in book?
So wait, are all of Marvel's books temporally ending and being replaced by the tie-in mini series? Or are they both running at the same?
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>>90792814
I've been depressed for the past couple of days, so part of me can't help but think the All-New Patriot is going to be Miles's dad.
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>>90796478
Eagle Glider
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>>90796806
Eagles soar on the wings of freedom.
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>>90792814
Funny, we just had a threat talking about where the fuck Eli and Isaiah have been for the past 5 years.
But is this actually Eli or someone else? He looks too old.
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>>90792814
That is the worst costume ever.
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>>90797217
Has similar elements to sams costume.
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>>90792833
I am very interested to see Namor and Torch deal with al this. After Bucky, they're Steve's oldest friends. And in Namor's case, Steve is one of the few people he respects.
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>>90797217
It might be Eli but he reminds me of Sam.
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>>90792833
>Now Marvel is announcing Secret Empire: Brave New World, a companion series to Secret Empire

Fucking hell they are milking this to hell and back. I thought it would be a small crossover but now everyone character and their dog is involved.
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>>90792814
>>90792833
So it's just Secret Empire: Homefront
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>>90797642
>I thought it would be a small crossover
Why would you think that? It's Marvel's big Summer Event comic.
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>>90793908

its an anthology book. hes on the cover for one issue of it, meaning one of the side stories probably has him.

plus y'know the Civil War 2 vision of Miles killing Cap...
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>>90795399
She's a teen hero.
She will be dead, powerless, forgotten, retconned, impregnated, and/or evil in 10 years or less.
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>>90797612

You saying all black people look the same?

If it wasn't by OP I could have sworn it was Falcon because of those orange shades. If it is another character they have to go back to the drawing board because it is too similar to Cap Falcon.
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>>90797217
>But is this actually Eli or someone else? He looks too old.

comic book artists can't draw children or teenagers.
news at 11
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>>90797723
No.

That being said the bird theme of the new(?) Patriot's costume and the shades makes me think its Falcon.
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>>90795401
Steve won't die but he'll be disgraced and no one will trust him again.
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>>90796773
Fuuuuck I hope not, Bendis needs to be stopped.
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>>90797829
>>90794504
>>90794663
>>90797551
>>90797612
>>90797723
It can't be Sam, we already saw what his new outfit looks like, and he has his own solo so there's no point in having him in this mini.
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>>90797642
That might have been Spencer's intention but Bendis and others probably hijacked it and the Editors let them.

It happened to Millar with Civil War, he talked about how other writers and editors wanted him to do things differently and then added shit in their tie in stories that he didn't agree with.

It got to the point were another writer spoiled something in a tie-in before it happened in his story.
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>>90798156
Civil War was shit on its own merits, not because of the actions of others
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>>90797833
until the next event when there's a colossal evil that needs everyone to defeat and Steve joins in and everyone makes amends because he helps out
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>>90798068

I had no idea actually. Looks like Sam is going back to being the Falcon. Still odd that Eli looks like Cap, I doubt he will become the 4th CA since the whole event seems to be a way for Cap to finally return to his normal self. But we will see.
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>>90796369

Thanks Obama.
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>>90792833
>Gwenpool
STOP TRYING TO RUIN HER MARVEL
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>>90798247
Did I said it wasn't shit? I only said that Millar had problems with editorial and the other writers because they meddled with his story.
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>>90798278
Obviously they will forgive him eventually but I hope it's not as retarded as the way everyone forgives Tony for his shit.
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>>90798510
>I hope it's not as retarded as the way everyone forgives Tony for his shit.
oh it is to laugh
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>>90798510

did anyone ever forgive Tony for his shit?

I feel it was mostly a "we've moved past that"
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>>90792814
Black General Glory?
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>>90798510
Forgiving Steve is easy when you can just blame the Cosmic Cube.
Tony had nothing to justify his actions, he did everything on his own free will.
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>>90798594
Wether they did or not it doesn't matter since they always let him get away with shit.

I just hope that with Cap they make it interesting at the least. Like Cap being horrified with himself and remembering everything HydraCap remembered and everything he did.

I wouldn't mind him trying to make amends as a Tbolt or something along the lines, plus I've always like how Steve interacts with c-listers and it would be good to see him working for his redemption and working with messed up villains and gray area characters.

Also I wouldn't mind Zemo being there too since their relationship would be hella complicated now.
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>>90798683
>inb4 an X-fag cries about Cyclops
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>>90798851

I want Superman: Grounded but starring Steve going around trying to actually help people as an amends for HydraCap when he gets his life back.

but, y'know, not shit.
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>>90796681
I think you need to read better shit, kouhai
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>>90798886
you don't have to be an Xfag to recognize the bullshit that Cyclops is being subjected to
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>>90798683
No it's not, I mean they might not throw him to jail or anytjung but HydraCap still did some horrible unforgiving shit in his name while wearing his face.
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>>90792814
Terrible costume, though.
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>>90798851

In theory they could put Steve and Zemo on the Thunderbolts team, albeit that would require a writer who doesn't turn it into "Steve and those other guys I guess" to work.
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>>90794504
Rage is dead, nigga
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>>90795318
It's just a variant cover. There's no hard evidence that he joins Hydra.
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How the fuck does Hydra even find enough recruits to take over the world? They've been around and exposed for like 70 years now. Fucking Kamala Khan beats their shit in at the Jersey docks every weekend. They're a joke.

This whole thing is just a parallel for Trump rising to power, isn't it?
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>>90799171
Yes
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>>90799171

they have a great health plan
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>>90799125
I noticed Nicieza is writing for this >>90792814 I wouldn't mind him handling a Tbolts with Zemo and Steve he would make Helmut interesting and his relationship with Steve complex and give everyone member proper screen time.

Also Stuckies would be even more BTFOed
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>>90799171
Spencer had this planned before he took over Cap and he based it on an old abandoned Remender plot.
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>>90799355

Maybe one of the Brave New World chapters will center on Zemo or Moonstone. Although I can also see FabNic writing something New Warriors or Deadpool related for BNW.

That said I'd happily have Nicieza back on Thunderbolts at least then everyone would be written in character again. And he might do some character repair on basically everyone at this point, but Karla and Helmut in particular.
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>>90793908
Well Miles is the one that kills Steve. Would be a reason why he shows up more
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>>90799171
Cut off one head and two more shall take its place, anon.
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>>90797601
Man, I love the Invaders so much. This is going to such an interesting part of the event. I hope they give it some good spotlight.
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>>90792934
Thats very obviously Sam Wilson. Seeing as he's giving back the shield next issue of Falcap, it looks like hes taking up the Patriot moniker
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>>90794635
>Marvel probably will use waids time displaced cap from 85.
Still thinking that's happening aren't you.
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>It's another episode of Nazis are still out there waiting for the right moment.

Can this be considered fear mongering?
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>>90800462
Except he's not. We've already seen his Secret Empire costume and he has his own ongoing that's a core part of the event so there's no reason to devote part of an anthology book to "introducing" him. He already has his own book and the other tie-ins he's appearing in for that. This is an anthology for all the people that won't be doing anything SE related in their own books or lack their own books.
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>>90801092
What do you mean "considered".

We're living in the Salem Witch Trials III. Hell of a sequel, but I feel like the writers should go back to the more mystical aspect.
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>>90801568
Can simply change gimmcks in his own book.
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>>90800907
Its going to happen.
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>>90801661
>Salem Witch Trials III.

Nigger, they aint killing nobody yet. This is nothing like the Red Scare, let alone the Salem Witch Trials, sjw calling people Nazi for everything and anything is not against 'muh free speech', it's just crybabies complaining.
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Nvm. It's nightrasher.
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>>90802086
seriously?
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>>90802298
Skateboard. The hydra goons he beating up have his gear.

Marvels more likely to combine rogers and sam in one book.
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RIP Eli.
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>>90802086
That would be amazing though.
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>>90792814
Is this Eli? He looks older
And the costume is shit, his older costume was better
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>>90803392
Eli is in legal limbo.

Its all new as in new role.
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>>90801841

You're right and wrong at the same time.

No one's dying, but some people ARE getting hurt, not to mention innocent people getting smeared and losing their jobs over disagreeing with them online. And the precedent of SJWs willing to destroy freedom of speech in favour of safety IS concerning. They don't stop to think that the louder they cry, their enemies (WHO ARE IN CONGRESS AND HAVE POWER MIND YOU) would actually "give them what they want", without realizing the consequences of their actions.
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>>90796369
>he isn't reading fix

twitter is mistake although seeing him being insulted by both sides means he's doing something right but his writing is fun
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>>90803392
I would say is Sam Wilson
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>>90805030
It's not Sam.
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>>90795318
because he's jewish, duh.
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>>90798891
He could team up with Hawkeye.
>>90798454
It actually makes a lot of sense that she would get involved because it doesn't fit with her understanding of the universe and she would want to know how it came to be.
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>>90804864

Andrew Dobson gets dunked by both sides too. That doesn't mean he's right.
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>>90794635
They can't do that without completely fucking up and destroying any chance in fucking hell for fans to buy the post-Secret Empire in terms of winning fans back.

IF they go through with the bullshit of Miles killing Cap, then they will have no real choice but to have SE end with a full on reality reset in terms of the entire event being undone, Cap's death included and EVERYTHING Secret Empire related being negated as never happening.
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>>90797833
They cant do it. PERIOD.

Again, remember Marvel is supposed to be pandering hard after Secret Empire to get fans to come back, with Secret Empire retconned/nigger rigged to be a final hurrah of SJW Marvel, due to the sales death spiral and retailers basically threatening to lynch Marvel if they tell the SJW faggots ruining the company to fuck off.

And given the state of the nation, what's more likely is that Hydra Cap will be vindicated and willingly let himself be erased from history in terms of Hydra Cap being erased/Secret Empire being erased to appease the Trump supporters who Marvel realize, were the core sales audience and who they DESPERATELY need to start buying Marvel again since the SJW faggots never bought the books no matter how hard Marvel bent over backwards for them
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>>90807956
>to appease the Trump supporters
Really now.
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>>90807956
>nigger rigged
Do I even want to know what the fuck that means?
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>>90808088
nigger rigged=basically putting something together through whatever shit you have on hand
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Whitley fucking is the worst how does he keep getting paid
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>>90807956
>to appease the Trump supporters who Marvel realize

If it makes me a "trump supporter" if I want actual stories and not political blog posts in place of my men and women in tights punching giant monsters then give me a fucking maga hat. Let us make Marvel Great Again and build a wall to segregate ourselves from the shit eaters that still support those shitty books.

(NOTE: A book having politics in it, or even being about a political message is different from the shit drivel most boring marvel "political" comics are pushing.)
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>>90808258
A good writer will make the message subtext or allegorucal waiting, to be discovered, rather than shove it in people's faces.
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>>90808147
Jerry-rigged.
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