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Toonami Ratings for 3/11/17

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These are bigtime late, thank Nielson for that.

One Piece is being cancelled. It's last episode airs this Saturday. It will be replaced by Tokyo Ghoul at 1am the following Saturday. Everything else moves down. World record didn't help ya, huh?

Sand Whale and Me starts this Saturday at 12am. Each episode is a 5 minute short so it's just being squeezed in, nothing else changes.

Adult Swim is funding two new 6 episode seasons of FLCL. Expected release 2018.

We finally made it, this was the first week of the new Samurai Jack. Everyone had high expectations for its performance and its effect it would have on the rest of the block, and while it didn't beat AgK, it was the number 2 show of all cable, only being beat by a basketball game. That's pretty solid. The rest of the block though went all to shit. Kai fell under a million, Jojo plummeted to the 600k range, and everything stayed around that level of shit. Thank DST for that weird up and down.


11:00 Samurai Jack 1552 0.76 973
11:30 Dragon Ball Super 1251 0.57 733
12:00a Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters 903 0.42 542
12:30a JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure 672 0.32 405
1:00a Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn 569 0.26 339

1:30a Hunter X Hunter 569 0.26 337
3:00a Naruto: Shippuden 674 0.30 379
3:30a One Piece 657 0.28 364
4:00a Ghost in the Shell (r) 602 0.26 334
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>>90781778
Don't get to say this often, Family Guy btfo


8:00 Dragon Ball Super 0.51 865 0.28 000
8:30 American Dad (r) 0.47 721 0.27 000
9:00 Rick & Morty (r) 0.50 760 0.31 000
9:30 Rick & Morty (r) 0.57 873 0.35 000

10:00 Family Guy (r) 0.79 1264 0.56 000
10:30 Family Guy (r) 0.91 1468 0.66 000
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gundam isn't doing well, neither is HxH
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>>90781778
>Tokyo Ghoul at 1am
And the TV will be muted.
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>>90781817
Short reruns from DST

4:30a American Dad (r) 617 0.28 360

5:00a King of the Hill (r) 657 0.30 387
5:30a King of the Hill (r) 598 0.26 339
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>>90781778
So what the hell happened with the ratings crash? And Tokyo Ghoul replacing One Piece? Is this for real?
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>more people want to watch Ghost in the Shell that's aired for years at 4am then HxH
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huh. who knew that people would only watch samurai jack and nothing else?
except...everyone.

can`t wait for toonami to eventually marathon the new samurai jack and get the most viewership in the history of toonami
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>>90781881
Ghost in the Shell is good tho
unlike HxH past the first few arcs anyway
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>>90781875
Tokyo Ghoul is okay. They should've kept with the manga ordering.

Re: is shit though after the 1st arc.
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>>90781778
Odd drop from Jojo to HxH compared to last week IIRC
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>funding a new season of Fooly Cooly
>New samurai Jack episodes

is cartoon network having their version of a midlife crises? Will we get a new season of Courage the Cowardly Dog out of it?
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In one hour it's officially Toonami's 20th anniversary!
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>>90782148
>Will we get a new season of Courage the Cowardly Dog out of it?
Didn't the creator of Courage try to get another seasons/reboot through with a CGI short a few years ago?
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>>90781881
>>90782064
I would wager that drop in the middle and gain towards the end is a calculation error caused by DST. The real concern is the ratings nosedive starting at Jojo
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>>90782148
>is cartoon network having their version of a midlife crises?
Not Cartoon Network, Adult Swim and CN are two different channels that are run at different times. [as] isn't beholden to CN and is pretty independent when it comes to their own autonomy and decision-making.
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>>90782287
>calculation error caused by DST
I forgot entirely about DST. Seems like a reasonable explanation honestly.
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Calling it now,Spider-Man for the April Fools day joke.
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>>90781778
Someone red pill me on Tokyo Ghoul. The concept sounds great but anime fans either love it or despise it
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>>90782469
Toonami related April Fools joke won't be till next year. This year AS has to make up for that pitiful attempt at humor from last year
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>>90782148
>>90782148
>Samurai Jack becomes a massive success and Adult Swim ends up rebooting every show we grew up with in the 90's-00's
>Galactic Kids Next Door
>Symbionic Titan season 2
>Genndy directed Dexter's Lab Season 4
>Mission Hill season 2
>Birdgirl Attorney at Law
>Courage The Cowardly Dog 2
>Swat Cats
>Megas XLR
>Starts a new golden age of animation
Mite b cool.
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>>90782469
Nah, The April Fool's joke this year was cancelling One Piece.
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>>90783055
>Courage The Cowardly Dog
>on Adult Swim
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>Jack comes back
>ratings hit WWE numbers right after it

Good job nostalgia niggers you've effectively killed the block
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Where is the One Piece Guinness World Record anon now?
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>>90783055
>Symbionic Titan
>Megas XLR
Can't legally happen.
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>>90781822
Time to drop them too. I think it's about time for some spring cleaning for this block.
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>>90783055
>Courage
>On Adult Swim

I don't think I could watch that, normal Courage episodes gave me fucking nightmares as a kid.
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>>90783055
>>Galactic Kids Next Door
GKND sounded like the worst bullshit/edgy piece of crap show that was as far from the source material as it could be. I'm sorry.

How about CN/Adult Swim try and create new things instead of rebooting old classics?
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These are genuinely the most bizarre ratings in months so I'm assuming DST had something to do with it. I expect Jack to get better ratings over the next few weeks as word of mouth spreads.

For what it's worth I saw a lot of people on my twitter feed who normally don't watch Toonami tweeting about Jack, I think my favorite was a roomful of Final Round casuals stopping to watch the show.
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>>90782722
that "the joke is there no april fools day joke ahaha were so good watch rick and morty on our reddit stream"
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>>90783640
That's why there was a drop off. People were only there for Jack.
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>>90783667
The dropoff wasn't normal. Super's ratings were within the norm but the middle of the block collapsed. The lowest ratings Unicorn and HxH had gotten before were in the low 600s. Ratings went back to normal with Naruto, One Piece somehow managed to get great retention even, guess people turned out after hearing it was ending its run.
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ahahah they spent money advertising on non-turner networks and couldnt crack 2m.

they got less viewers then alvin and the chimpunks rerun.

seven nights of adultswim when?
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>>90782722
I wonder how it will work. I'm assuming Toonami will at least maintain 11:30, so will the joke hit mid block?
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https://twitter.com/RichardEpcar/status/842511677526495232

Slowly but surely, the Stardust Crusaders dub is making progress.
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>>90781778
>DBZ under a million
>HxH didn't lose anyone from Gundam
>people came back for Naruto
It's like opposite day. Also, why the hell are people saying Naruto will be the next to go when this shit happens every other month? Isn't it on a really shitty filler arc now?
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>>90784418
The west actually likes Naruto, unlike Rubberman and his band of circus freaks.
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>>90783415
GKND was the logic sequel after the last season really
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>>90784552
And the last season was the absolute fucking worst shit. I want to go back in time and make sure it never existed. End it at the previous season. Don't give a single shit if it leaves things open, every single part of the last season was awful and the very last episode was Warburton taking off his pants and shitting on the audience.
Not even the person you're replying to.
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I genuinely don't understand how we are still using the rating system when the demographics advertisers are most interested in are mostly watching online.
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>the normies don't give a shit about Buu Kai, considered the best part by DBZfags
>the normies don't care about Super anymore and fuck off before the actual unique plot starts after adapting the two movies, in fact losing interest before BoG's adaptation ends
>the normies don't care about Jojo anymore because, depending on how normie they are, Le Dio maymay they loved so much is gone, or the "Trump" character they hated so much actually won, and they can't get into Worst Jojo Joseph because he's not as much of a meme in the dub
This is just BTFOing every single established weebbase on 4chan, except maybe /a/jojo who rightfully hate Joseph.
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>>90784814
>buu saga
>considered the best part by DBZfags

typically when you make a post you don't want to open with the most blatant of your horse shit
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>>90784865
It isn't?
I thought it was, since Freiza Saga is mediocre and Cell Saga is ass.
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>>90781954
>dropoff from some other show to DBZ

How's it taste fucker! Shoe's on the other foot now!
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>>90784915
The only thing mediocre about the Freeza arc was the strange power scaling and the only thing shitty about the Cell arc was the poor pacing (which wasn't toriyama's fault), both of which Buu saga suffers from far worse.
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>>90784418
Because with OP gone Naruto is now the lowest rated show on the block. As a bonus it has 500 episodes we will never get to even if it stays
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>>90784814
Funimation made a huge mistake deciding to start the Super dub from the very beginning of the series. I don't think Americans will have the patience to sit through 2 arcs that are just worse recaps if the films that they already fully dubbed and released in theaters.

At this rate it's going to take 2 years to until the first tournament against Champa.
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>>90783055
How about no.

Reboots are killing off creativity and originality in the entertainment industry.
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>>90785010
Maybe they were banking on people not nowing the first two arcs are movie retellings with slight changes or even knowing what DBS was until the announcement.
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>>90785010
They should have just played the movies and had the series go right into the Black arc.
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>Adult Swim brings back The Boondicks.
It would be great.
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>I find this Gundam extremely confusing
>After Jack and the Dragon Balls, the best thing I like his HxH
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>>90784952
will the Kai Buu arc suffer from this as well?
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>>90785131
Why? The fourth season was mediocre, and that was with Aaron ghostwriting.
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>>90783277
>WWE numbers

Toonami would kill for low 3s and high 2s
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I gotta put a brave face on.
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>>90785191
Reminder that AS has NEVER rerun the 4th season until last week
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>>90785167
Maybe it'll fix some of the shitty pacing, but the the power scaling canonically goes haywire.
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>>90781778
>it was the number 2 show of all cable, only being beat by a basketball game.
It was a basketball game, then a shitty, kids awards show followed by Samurai Jack.
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>>90781824
>not watching Tokyo Majin during Tokyo Ghoul
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>>90785408
No, Jack was number 2
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>>90784915
The Cell saga is only popular because of Gohanfags.
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>>90781778
>mfw Naruto's ratings beat JoJo's Meme Adventure. Mobile Suite Gundam Robot Unicorn Attack. and Homo x Homo.
>And it's in filler.

Yet they say Shippuden is the one that needs to be removed out of the bunch instead of One Piece.
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>>90785010
>At this rate it's going to take 2 years to until the first tournament against Champa.

Unless huge marathons come out of nowhere, we'll be there by late 2017. Do you remember how short the arcs are?
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>>90785578
Everything except Jojo and Jack needs to be removed.
That's not even being biased for those shows. It's being biased against everything else. Because it's shit.
Put in fuckin' Madoka or something, I don't care, anything's better than what they have right now.
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>>90785528
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/saturday-cable-ratings-march-11-2017/

Are we going by 18-49 demographics or by total viewers?
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>>90785810
>Everything except Jojo and Jack needs to be removed.
>Implying JoJo doesn't need to be removed pronto.
JoJofags, come on.
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>>90783055
I want this so bad... Why hasn't this happened yet?!
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>>90785010
Toei probably wouldn't have let Funimation skip the episodes anyway.
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>>90785575
Or, you know, because it was actually exciting.
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>>90785810
>except Jojo
>the biggest ratings cancer of the night

Jojobrony detected
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>>90785413
I'll be watching Tokyo Mew Mew during Tokyo Ghoul.
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You guys deserve this

http://m.imgur.com/a/eQJiV
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>>90785894
Total viewers means little. Key demo always is king
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>>90782511
>Someone red pill me on Tokyo Ghoul

Read the manga. The anime is more than 50% filler (despite being only 24 episodes) and is one of the worst adaptions I've ever seen.

Basically, first season is average. Second season is a complete disaster, almost entirely filler (based on some ideas by the author which weren't good enough to get into the manga) an obvious rushjob because the studio couldn't wait until there was more manga to adapt. The result was a season so poorly received it basically destroyed the franchise. It's still a relatively popular manga but its potential to be more than that is basically dead.

Not quite SAO-level terrible, but it's close.
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>>90781778
>One Piece's second to last night
>it beats Gundam, and Hunter X Hunter and is a hair from beating Jojo

YOU'VE MADE A HUGE MISTAKE
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>>90786229

Usopp, why is your nose a small penis?
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>>90781822

Gundam will probably just ride out the full 22 episodes. It's not worth it to ditch it when it's a short, standard length series.

HxH on the other hand...They were probably hoping it would have had the appeal Yu Yu Hakusho did on Toonami back in the day. They were wrong.
Both the waifu AND husbando game are much weaker than YYH, the setting isn't as fun, most of the villains are bland and unmemorable, and while Yusuke was a fun, likable son of a bitch street tough with a heart of gold, Gon just falls kind of flat in the personality department. Especially this early in the series.
Hell, YYH reruns would probably outperform HxH.

I don't see it lasting the full 148 episodes.
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>>90786302

Anon, why is your penis a small penis?
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>>90786489
>Gundam will probably just ride out the full 22 episodes. It's not worth it to ditch it when it's a short, standard length series.
Chances of IBO S2?
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>>90786489
Gon is just Luffy on steroids.
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>>90786489
fuck man. i`d be down for some YYH reruns than watching little kids getting molested by a clown.
that demon tournament arc still gets me erect.
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>>90786229
>one freak night erases years of terrible ones
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>>90786515
Considering they just last minute swapped Unicorn to 2am for the 25th, I'd say not high
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>>90786810
I keep hearing this one bastard say "Surely they'll give IBO a better timeslot than 2am. It had better ratings than Unicorn."

Skipping over the fact that this dumbass constantly lies and throws fits in order to defend IBO, what a crock of shit. Toonami's ratings as a whole were higher back when IBO was airing and it wasn't because of the murderhobo. IBO was often pegged as the weak-link of the night that saw some pretty bad retention from it's lead-in. Not as bad as Jojo's, but people were calling for it to be moved later into the night.

I am a huge Gundam fan, but for fuck's sake let's be real here. IBO wasn't a draw for the block. The fact it generated little buzz outside of the Gundam fanbase should have been a huge warning sign. People aren't going to flock back to it just because Toonami airs season 2. The show had one chance to make it's mark, to get people hooked and it blew it.
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>>90786940
Gundam isn't popular in the west. Don't know why people can't accept that.
>but it aired next to muh dbz 20 years ago
Yea and how often do you normies sharing gundam memes on facebook or remembering the Gundam games they played in the schoolyard? Oh right never because most people never gave a shit about Gundam, it just happened to be near the most popular anime in the west for awhile which gave it some temporary, artificial popularity
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>>90786069
Too much lewd not enough implied rape.
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>>90786536
I've been putting off getting the series on bluray but fuck I gotta.
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>>90786069
>all this lewd for characters who were on screen less than 60 seconds
>series only premeried 6 days ago
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>>90784814
4chan is a spider, hiding in a toilet paper tube, waiting for the party to end so it can check it's web. This inane shit has nothing to do with it. Weeaboo are not 4chan.
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>>90785076
By turning a profit at a lower cost.
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>>90787555
Well, we had seen them quite awhile ago in the trailer, some of that stuff isn't brand new
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How many more years of HxH?
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>>90784262
>The Stardust Crusaders dub is making progress
That's awesome. Judging from the test episodes, the VA's they cast are perfect!
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>>90784418
>Also, why the hell are people saying Naruto will be the next to go when this shit happens every other month?
Because it's ending next week in Japan.
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>>90784262
why is it taking them so long?
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>>90790145
Because like Free! Crunchyroll was probably holding the dub rights hostage.
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>>90781778
>672
>fucking 672

Whatcha gonna do now JoJo memers? When people would rather watch the filler of Shippuden, no wonder you guys got BTFO!
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>>90782148
>>Will we get a new season of Courage the Cowardly Dog out of it?

Anon, I...

the creator pitched another cartoon but it went nowhere. there was a CGi special for Courage but that didn't air in America tho
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>>90786064
I'm surprised no company has gone back to re-dub that one
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>>90790579
Crunchyroll doesn't hold things hostage. They've been trying to get into the dub game for years, and their big announcement of hopping in bed with Funi last year was the culmination of their efforts as they need their distribution network and studio contacts badly. Its perfectly possible that Viz waited to make a big push with the franchise as a whole starting with releasing both the manga and anime for Part 1 and 2 but your guess is as good as mine
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>>90789519
Maybe two more years if the ratings don't improve.
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>>90787162
>Gundam isn't popular in the west. Don't know why people can't accept that.

My experience with the fandom is that they want the show to do well and hope we start seeing Gundam merch more readily available stateside, especially when they like an entry. They want to take "Rightstuff is releasing more Gundam" as proof the brand is gaining strength, not "They are releasing shows no one outside of the fandom has watched at prices that don't seem enticing to non-fans."
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>>90790145
Because they wanted to milk the first two parts before moving on to Stardust Crusaders.

>>90790579
Stop spreading false info anon.
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>>90791951
>Maybe two more years if the ratings don't improve
You could've just said "two more years" and it'd be accurate either way.
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>>90792200
To be fair, during its heyday that was more or less what we had. Gundam lives off of plamo sales, and now the only brick and mortar places to find those are the odd hobby shop and whatever Barnes and Noble manages to misassemble.

Gundam is niche as fuck, but the potential is always there.
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When are we getting Azumanga Daioh?
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>>90784657
Dear lord was it really that bad? Just passing by
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>>90784915
I personally love the Buu saga, as flawed as the pacing is.
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>>90784657
I really don't remember much about it. What was so bad about it?
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>>90786229
This. Nice one, Demarco, you stupid fatass.
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Is there any bigger waste of time than a weekly thread to talk about ratings for anime that's at least 5 years old?

Do you guys work for Adult Swim or something? I can't think of any other reason why you people deserve a general.
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>>90792680
>being too young to remember the massive Gundam hype of Toonami's early days
>not understanding that most modern entertainment is based off nostalgia-jerking

Nostalgia jerking is why Samurai Jack and Dragon ball do well. It's logical to assume Gundam would have done just as well, you dumb faggot.
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>>90795071
>>90786229
That is just a good reason why they should drop HxH. A pox on the dumbasses that thought it would ever do well. Normals don't want to watch a bunch of gay people be gay and talk to each other for 20 minutes a week TWICE in one night. It was either JoJo or HxH. Can't have both.
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>>90795108
Maybe you'd be more at home in one of the 9 Jack threads or 13 Star Vs threads in the catalog
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>>90795414
Yea and nobody wanted to watch a crew of spastics scream for 10 minutes each week either. The other 12 goes to recaps and the OP
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>>90795155
>Gundam hype

You mean hype bleed over from DBZ? If Gundam had actual hype it would not be something you need to force people to care about
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>>90785191
>Aaron ghostwriting.
Wait, what?
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>>90784915
Frieza saga was god-tier. Fun villains, Frieza was a real threat, the buildup to Goku going SSJ was phenomenal, Vegeta slowly becoming more of a good guy, everything about it was great.
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>>90795564
It fell off after Goku fought the Ginyu, even including the good shit after that. Goku vs. Frieza was the length of a typical anime season. Still better than the other arcs though, except arguably the Saiyan Saga.
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>>90795691
>Goku vs. Frieza was the length of a typical anime season
You can thank Toei for that. All they know how to do is drag things out to unbearable levels.
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>>90786086
Why does demo matter more than total viewers? Doesn't more viewers mean more money?
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>>90795863
Money comes from advertisers, and advertisers want their shit advertised to the correct audience. Advertising Axe body spray to 8 year olds is a waste. Total viewers does matter, just not as much as key demo
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>>90795108
>Do you guys work for Adult Swim or something? I can't think of any other reason why you people deserve a general.

Nope, but as you can tell almost every asshole with an opinion in here thinks he should work for Adult Swim as if they're upper crust material
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>>90794281
Right after Haruhi.
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>>90781954
It helps that DBZ is shifting into what is possibly its least popular arc. The tournament only lasts a few more episodes before the Majin Buu stuff starts and it turns into a slog.
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>>90796287
And Love Hina.
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>>90796287
>haruhi
>toonami
>2 months of endless eight
lets make it happen.
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>>90784814
>Buu Kai, considered the best part by DBZfags
You see people claiming any of the major arcs is good based on who they think the coolest villain is, but I've never met a single person who claims the Buu saga was the best. It's hard to even find people who admit it's not shit. I think it has good parts, but it's still overall the weakest arc by far. Even Namek at its worst is still more exciting.
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>>90795691
That's the original, Kai fixed the pacing and it stands as the high water mark of the entire series.
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>>90791951
Ratings are not going to improve in any substantial way. At this point anyone who isn't interested just skips out an doesn't bother watching it. It doesn't help that fanboys hyped it up and gave people really inaccurate impressions of what to expect, that shit actually makes people dislike the show more than they would have going in blind because now they feel disappointed and lied to.
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>>90781778
A big fuck you to 4Kids. I'll never forgive them for tainting the One Piece name in the US. Everyone in my age group only remembers that horrid Pirate Rap and highly questionable edits and rewrites; some that even took out entire episodes.
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>>90796901
4kids definitely damaged the brand. Too many people think of that shitty rap and retarded Rocky Balboa Sanji.
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>>90784814
The only good part of the Buu arc is Goku vs. Majin Vegeta. Some of the stuff before that is okay, but everything after it is crap.
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>>90796901
>>90797095
YA-YO YA-YO
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>>90795414
The whole block should just be Dragonball and nostalgia cartoons.

What is Demarco thinking? Ratings are all that matters.
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>>90795428
Probably. They can't be as cancerous as this shit.

The only reason to come to 4chan in CURRENT YEAR is for porn and download links. Anyone who regularly comes here for discussion is dumb.
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>>90797106
Hercule almost getting through to Buu and saving the world without even fighting for once was pretty good too. I really like their friendship.
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>>90797184
>They can't be as cancerous as this shit.
>topics with literally several threads at once
>not as cancerous as a single thread
Do you not understand what "cancer" implies?
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>>90796901
>le blame 4kids maymay

People just don't like Shit Piece in the west bud
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>>90797106
>The only good part of the Buu arc is Goku vs. Majin Vegeta
No it's the Saiyaman Arc, followed by the World Martial Arts stuff. The show goes to shit once the Majin Buu plot kicks in, pretty much the only stuff I like in retrospect is Mr Satan hanging out with Buu. I just don't find any of the fights very good, though I remember being super hyped for the Goku vs Vegeta rematch when I first watched the series all those years ago it's just not that good compared to everything else.
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>>90796901
Disney XD will probably pick up One Piece, they seem to be establishing an anime block.
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>>90797312
Because of 4kids. That was the first impression people had of it, for years that was the only exposure it had. That initial impression with nothing to counteract it screwed it over forever. Imagine it's your first day at a new school and to introduce yourself you drop your pants and shit on your desk. There's no way you come back from that, that's now your identity at that school forever. The desk-shitter. That's One Piece in the west.
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>>90797403
>it gets cancelled AGAIN
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>>90796323

>People preferred Super Saiyaman over Buu

Wait, what? I admit, Babidi is fucking annoying, but once that fucker dies it's smooth sailing.

Meanwhile, Gohan is literally the only person with the potential to protect earth forever and screws off, meaning Daddy can't even enjoy the afterlife without Earth screaming for help.
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>>90797403
Yokai Watch and Pokemon sell merch. One Piece doesn't. Jesus, this is almost as retarded as when you fags thought Fox was going to pick up HxH
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>>90797532
Buu is extremely flat as a character, only Hercule makes him interesting. The Saiyaman arc is great because low stakes and superhero shenanigans, it's just fun and introduces Videl, who has great chemistry with Gohan and the family. I've always been a sucker for those types of superhero stories where the hero is trying to keep his identity a secret and the Saiyaman Arc is basically just that. By contrast the Buu arc is just a string of dull fight scenes interrupted only by a couple somewhat interesting fight scenes. Seriously, once you already know the outcome of the fights there's absolutely no tension in any of them and they're not interesting to watch at all.
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>>90797585
>Fox picking up HxH
Who would ever get that impression?
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>>90797403
>>90797486
>It gets 4kids-tier edits again.
The west shitting on One Piece should become a running gag at that point.
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>>90786489

I wonder if people who don't browse here and watch even know if they're done by the same person?

Honestly, this current arc that we're in is probably the high point; aside from a single episode lull in the middle, the action starts here. If there's people still out here that dislike the show after York Shin, then you won't hear me asking you or anyone else to give it a shot.

That said, you'll love the Phantom Troupe, assuming you're not jaded. It sucks that I now have to stay up until 3am to catch the block now.
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>>90798060
>I wonder if people who don't browse here and watch even know if they're done by the same person?
I doubt they do. I know it's the same guy and It's even hard for me to associate HxH and with YYH. I find it still hard to believe.
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>>90798126

Maybe the shift in tone between the two series. YYH at its darkest is Chapter Black and the Three Kings Saga.

HxH at its darkest is Chimera Ant, but to each their own.
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>>90797403
Does Disney XD even air anything above TV-14?
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>>90797403
>this sexual a show on Disney
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>>90798425
It's probably the drastic difference in tone, style, and and pacing. YYH was more typical battle shounen, but it excelled at what it did. It hit familiar notes but it hit them in a satisfying way. It still holds up even years later.

HxH by comparison was written as an off-beat battle shounen. It's not this total deconstruction or reversal of battle shounens, it's more like it follows the same track then all of a sudden will juke the expected outcome. In the early parts that usually ends up being anticlimaxes, since it frequently builds up to a typical shounen confrontation then usually deflates or changes tack sharply to avoid it. Later on it becomes less about playfully jerking the reader's expectations around and more focused on actual drama and tension, but still structured in a way that denies the usual shounen track. Again it's not radically subversive or anything, it's just different enough that unless you're very familiar with battle shounen manga it's hard to recognize what he's even doing with the story. For most of the Toonami audience, with its limited exposure to anime and manga, it probably just seems like a big anticlimactic mess and it's hard to even explain the appeal to them because they are still so attached to their shounen cliches and conventions.
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>>90795553
This was from a cast interview in late 2013, before the fourth season was even announced if I remember right. Basically one of the voice actors said that even though Aaron wouldn't be part of the 4th season he had ghostwritten a lot, I'm sorry I can't give more concrete sourcing, it's all I remember from an article I read in 2013.
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>>90798472
They seem to be testing the sexual waters with Star Vs.

Who knows, maybe they'll lighten up to obvious cleavage eventually.
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>>90781778
>One Piece is being cancelled
Thank fucking god
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what up dip wads
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>>90799881
worried as fuck
>playing on private WoW server
>but
>last saturday I was watching toonami
>from 11 to 3 just loved it
>logged on wow
>be dwarf priest
>got a dungeon invite as I was tending to auction house stuff
>suddenly its 2 in the afternoon
>no sleep
>fall asleep
>sleeping schedule all fucked up now
>might sleep through tomorrows toonami
help
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>>90781778
Samurai Meme doing it's best One Punch Meme impersonation by killing the rest of the block
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>>90800095
I thought you only targeted failing shows. Jack's already beat OPM's peak of 1.4 million viewers.
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>>90798060
You actually don't, they swapped HxH back to 1:30 at the last minute. Likely will only be till Gundam ends, bit it's something
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>>90800162
No he targets successful shows to generate (you)
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Electro pupper thread where?
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>>90798865
This seems like as good an explanation of HxH's reception as any.
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>>90798060
There were so many people who thought SAO was cancelled when it obviously ended that they had to do an on air Q&A to tell people it ended and wasn't cancelled. Somethings tells me casuals aren't too bright
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>>90800316
Nowhere, but maybe you can help me figure out what she meant by this
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>>90800357
Those are some weird ass emoji's. I have no idea what it could mean.

Electro pupper thread here
>>90800359
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>>90800561
They speak in text too.
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>>90800162
He shitposts every new popular show.
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>>90800357
Those little dog girls were made for porn bait. Prove me wrong.
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>>90800095
KILL YOURSELF.
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>>90786536
>>90786489
>Hell, YYH reruns would probably outperform HxH.

YYH always seemed like the most logical fit to bring to Toonami. Even when they were resisting retro stuff, it's a show that was shoved to a death slot so no one saw the end on TV.
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>>90798449
They used to air Naruto Shippuden until religious fanatics complained. One Peice is less mainstream than Naruto so the religious nuts will probably overlook it(assuming it winds up on Disney XD)
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>>90801022
>Disney
>caring about religion
Pull the other leg.
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>>90786940
>>90787162
>>90792200
Gundam's popularity in the West depends on the series that is airing.G,Wing and 00 were popular because they appealed to the western audience.

IBO is going to be controversial at best in the West so its not going to make Gundam popular again. I will get flamed for saying this, but G Reco would have probably done better in the West than IBO.
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>>90801022
>They used to air Naruto Shippuden until religious fanatics complained.
I haven't seen a source on this claim.
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>>90801022
One Piece is a Christian anime
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>>90801452
Very Christian
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I liked 4kids Sanji. Lollipop, wonky accent, and all.
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>>90801596
I like 4kids Robin, because Veronica Taylor has a sexy voice. That's about it.
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>>90801641
Until you remember she did Ash
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>>90801886
She's still number 5 on my MILF waifu list.
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How assblasted are OPfags that not once in its 4 year run on Toonami did OP get acceptable ratings?
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>>90799257
>They seem to be testing the sexual waters with Star Vs.

I don't watch Star vs., can you elaborate on this, pls? What kind of sexual stuff is in the show? How much of it is Princess Marco?
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>tfw you realize one piece never drew a dime and every show has outperformed it
>even SAO and that one gundam show from 2013

Weeb virgins eternally BTFO
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>>90800357
I believe she wants you to engage in sexual intercourse with her.
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>>90801886
That only makes her hotter.
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>>90802205
>OPfags foaming at the mouth screaming at the DeMarco about "WHY WASN'T IT NARUTO INSTEAD!?!?"
>DeMarco: "It's ratings are better than One Piece."
>OPfags: "FUCK YOU!!! AUGH!!! IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN NARUTO!!! FUCK YOU FAGGOT AND FUCK TOKYO GHOUL!!!"

They are THAT anally ruptured.
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>>90802565
Shippuden got death slotted. It's only a matter of time now before it shares One Piece's fate.
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I was a bit upset about One Piece, but not that much anymore since I can just watch it all on funimation's website. Still concerned this will damage their relationship with Toei/Funi and we'll lose Dragon Ball eventually.

Naruto/One Piece's higher ratings are probably a result if having an extra day of DVR ratings since they aired after midnight pacific due to daylight savings. Doesn't excuse gundam being a literal ratings black hole though.
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>>90781881
>>90782287
The last three shows did better than Gundam and Hunter X Hunter because Nilsen counts DVR ratings until 3am. So Ghost in the Shell still would have gotten the same ratings as a normal night, but not Naruto and One Piece.
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>>90802837
Nigga, One Piece still got shit ratings when it was put early on the block. One Piece got the death slot because it EARNED it.

Watch as Naruto still manages to get an audience.
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>>90781778
>it didn't beat AgK


called it. long live the (Ice) Queen
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>>90800340
Oh my god i completely forgot about that. Most of that seemed to come from tumblr.
>What did you cancel SAO?
>Bring back SAO!!
As if a simple google search would save you the time it takes to write a pissed off email
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>>90784262
Hopefully its better than the shitshow we got for Part I & II.
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so when are we getting the number to call to ask questions for tonight's live q&a

someone's gotta ask how one piece is being canceled when gundam is doing horrifically

also when they're airing steven universe

also when demarco will fucking play zelda because it's literally better than anything on the ps4/xbox one
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>>90781778
>it didn't beat AgK
how can anyone watch akame ga kill (I watched to finish but it isn't better than jack)
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>>90803145
>someone's gotta ask how one piece is being canceled when gundam is doing horrifically
Gundam has a shorter lifespan. One Piece still isn't over in it's hundreds of episodes. Gundam will be gone soon enough.
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>>90803191
ask yourself
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>>90801204
>Gundam's popularity in the West depends on the series that is airing.G,Wing and 00 were popular because they appealed to the western audience.
Or because they aired along with DBZ? "Appealing to a western audience" is a shitty claim given that Wing and G were the first ones aired here, so they had that new series appeal. 00 aired on Syfy and nobody gave a fuck because one it was on Syfy and two because it aired in like 2008-2009 when nobody cared about Gundam anymore anyway.

Not saying the franchise couldn't have been a surviving success story, but thanks to Bandai being retarded they squandered any and all momentum they had and doomed the property into obscurity. Which is sad when you realize that the broadcast of Endless Waltz was literally the highest rated program in CN history until DBZ's peak (or it might have been second behind a season premiere of DBZ, can't remember exactly)

Gundam isn't going to get popular again over here and will be remembered as a passing fad
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>>90803191
AgK has the waifus. Plus, it's shamelessly edgy.
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>>90803201
i know that, i just want someone to ask it because it's funny which should be obvious from my follow up questions

someone also needs to ask about movies
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>>90803211
there was nothing on to watch, I didn't have an option of new samurai jack
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>>90785076
They don't have to reboot Megas, just make another season like they did with Jack.
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>>90803256
Tax write off.
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>>90803287
well unwrite it off
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>>90783325
Megas XLR was a tax write off, right?
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>>90803441
Yes.
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>>90786489
>HxH on the other hand...They were probably hoping it would have had the appeal Yu Yu Hakusho did on Toonami back in the day. They were wrong.
YYH had much better pacing and a clearer direction in terms of the plot than HxH does. It also has a much more relatable and cohesive cast, and while it certainly had EDGE in it that wasn't the main selling point, which is something I feel like Togashi missed when making HxH.

>>90798060
>I wonder if people who don't browse here and watch even know if they're done by the same person?
I do, which is why it surprises me how lackluster his writing has become. Maybe marrying Naoko sucked the good writing out of him?
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>>90803565
>Maybe marrying Naoko sucked the good writing out of him?
And also turned him super gay.
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>>90803441
>>90803482
Where are you seeing which shows were written off?
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>>90803788
It's a long confirmed fact
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>>90784814
>or the "Trump" character they hated so much actually won
But Valentine lost
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>>90802414
Star got eternally btfo
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>>90802917
>Funi

As if that relationship could get worse
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>>90804041
it totally can
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>>90803056
>people actually thought western trash could beat high tier anime

Still laffin
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>>90804041
I'd be genuinely surprised if their relationship could get any worse after that Hellsing debacle.
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>>90797532
great saiyaman & hercule's character arc were the only good parts of post-cell dragonball
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>>90803056
>AGK was the peak of toonami
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I'm excited
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>>90802565
Max jej
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>>90804165
Not to mention both sides have been jerking each other around ever since
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>>90803565
Also want to add:

The main characters of YYH are high school aged, and aired on a block aimed at children and teens

The main characters of HxH are elementary school aged, on a block aimed at adults
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>>90781778
What shows have gotten the highest ratings ever on Toonami? I think Kai got like 2 million at one point, and the AgK premiere was 1.8 million. Is this as high as the ratings have gotten?
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>>90781874
Where is this girl from? I saw porn of her and thought it didn't have a source
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>>90804490
yup, DBZ Kai and AgK are the peak and everything else is playing catchup
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>>90804577
Did AgK peak with the premiere and go down over time, or did it stay at a constant high?

And what were Dimension W's ratings like?
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>>90804643
>>90804490
AgK had a few weeks at 1.6-1.7 and declined from there. Bleach had an episode or two hit 1.5, and DBZ has had a few hit 1.5-1.6. AoT had one night hit 1.5. Jack definitely is in the top 10 highest.

DW stayed between 1.1 and 1.3 it's whole run, which is odd for an untested title that wasn't well recieved.
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>>90804478
This is what turns me off about it, Gon's little kid personality is so grating. I actually find myself able to watch right now with Kurapika as the main focus
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>>90804873
>with Kurapika as the main focus

me too, anon
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>tfw just got to talk with the Toonami gang live on the air
I was the Zarbon faggot
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>>90804165
I've been out of the Toonami loop for a while. What happened with Hellsing?
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>>90803217
Don't forget that they tried again with Gundam SEED, which was one of the new shows they premiered when they moved to Saturdays in the first place. It eventually got moved to a 4:30 AM Saturday morning burn-off slot
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>>90805033
Toonami bought the rights to air Hellsing from Funi

Funi finished dubbing Hellsing after this agreement was made, and told Toonami their deal did not include the final couple of eps that weren't dubbed at the time of the agreement

Toonami had to pay extra to air the conclusion to Hellsing
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damn it steve that's not a one piece pirate
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>>90804832
DW was new, like it was from just 1 season before, i think if toonami get show fast enough there can do well
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>>90804983
Congrats, elder anon.
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>>90805570
Actually I think it was from the current season, it hadn't finished in Japan when Toonami started it
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CORY IN THE HOUSE CONFIRMED FOR 2017
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>>90805822
Well, DW was co-funded by Funimation.
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>>90804983
>Toonami call-in show
>Everyone calling in is either a nervous Pedro or an epic memester

THESE ARE YOUR TOONAMI FANS
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>>90805867
Proof that no normies watch Toonami.
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tokyo ghoul cancelled, they don't have the promo
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>>90804873
>Gon's little kid personality is so grating
I enjoy it a lot more knowing what he turns into later. This is when he was actually happy.
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>>90806142
a homo? gay means happy
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>>90804873
just keep watching

he's fucking insane
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>>90806173
Yeah his weird gayboy relationship is actually kinda sweet, until Greed Island when the first obvious signs that something is really wrong with Gon start to appear. I mean they were always there, but it's easy to brush them off as the usual shounen protagonist traits of determination and single-mindedness. Starting in Greed Island though it becomes apparent he ain't right in the head.
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>>90781778
Whats the number to call?
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>>90806396
too late, they're done with calls
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Is episode 2 going to be streamed on adult swim's website tomorrow?
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Did anybody record the stream?
I assume CabooseJr is on it
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>>90801204

I think it's more IBO is going to be considered overrated, much like SEED. The parallels are there.

See, back in the day Gundam SEED was making big waves online through fansubs. People liked what they saw, and it developed a reputation as a modern-masterpiece among the online and otaku communities at the time. There were even articles in North American anime magazines at the time calling it the greatest Gundam ever. And not to mention they both followed a Tomino Gundam that was considered a flop at the time.

But when they bring it to the West, specifically Toonami, the show flopped. At the halfway point of SEED it was moved to very late into the night, 2am iirc. Now, to be fair it wasn't entirely SEED's fault either as the show was subjected to numerous edits in order to obtain a Y-7 rating so it could be marketed towards kids.

Flash forward to today and look at what happened. IBO made a splash on anime websites, got good press and reviews, came after a Tomino anime that ANN insisted was a flop despite all the evidence to the contrary, and people were saying it is the greatest Gundam of all time.

And then you get into the devide in the fanbase over IBO Season 2. An improvement with Tekkadan facing real challenges, or just bullshit writing that shits on Tekkadan. There are some echoes of Destiny going on, at least from my perspective.

G-Reco would get complaints about people not understanding what's going on, but I think there would be at least some people who would be entertained by it and it would develop a reputation for being a crazy ride. I love the show, but I do acknowledge the validity to some of the complaints people have about it.
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when will the best gundam be back on toonami
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>>90806609
Why don't we like, just not try to force Gundam on Toonami at all?
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>>90806242
like how? I need something to look forward to
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>>90807143
Because a vocal minority will continue to insist Toonami should air Gundam.
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>>90807370
On Greed Island there's two main parts where Gon shows he's fucked in the head, the more crazy one is when he decides to deviate from an established plan to see how far he can push himself and ends up sacrificing one of his hands just to prove he could hold out longer or something. And by that I mean his hand was gone, almost up to the elbow, blown clean off with bone jutting out and everything. They manage to use the game's Nen to fix it later, but at the time he didn't know that was possible and he considered it a fair trade. There's another part in Greed Island, but explaining it is more complicated, but basically it shows Gon is not only willing to sacrifice himself, but others in order to win.

Chimera Ant arc he goes Kurapika levels of edgy because his friend Kite is killed by one of the elite Ants, and it drives him into a murderous rage and he becomes obsessed with finding and killing the Ant responsible, becoming so single-minded in his rage that even Killua is freaked out by what he sees.
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>>90807704
Well that sure does give something to anticipate
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>>90807564
And we shouldn't listen to them
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>>90807792
I feel I should mention, Gon's rage isn't autistic screaming like Naruto or Luffy, it's a cold, intensity. His eyes go super flat and black and his face is almost expressionless until he finally snaps.
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>>90807849
so he's the top in the relationship with Killua?
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>>90807880
Yes actually, Killua's usually the bottom in the doujins.
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>>90807849
That sounds pretty sweet
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>>90807935
It's pretty unsettling because it's such a sharp departure from his normal behavior. He acts more like Kurapika for large swathes of the Chimera Ant arc and Killua is just helpless to do anything. He can't help his friend because they're both hopelessly out of their depth in the Ant War, and it becomes clear that Gon is going to pursue vengeance regardless of what Killua wants, even if it costs Killua his life in trying to keep up with him.
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>>90808003
but isn't Killua supposed to be >muh overpowered edgelord?
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>>90808060
no, they had a whole arc about him not wanting to be that don't you remember
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>>90803601
He was always super gay
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>>90808003
You have definitely piqued my interest. Many thanks
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>>90808060
Both Gon and Killua are prodigies, but all that means is relative to people their age and other beginners in Nen, they are way ahead of the game and take to learning it extremely easy. Against actual masters, people at Hisoka's level or above, they can do almost nothing. The arc we're going into now is when Gon and Killua first go in over their heads against enemies that are WAY stronger than they are, but in the Chimera Ant arc the enemies are so powerful that even most Nen masters are no match against the Ants.
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So is Samurai Jack going to be on the Adult Swim stream like last week?
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>>90807834
It's not us that we have to worry about listening to them.
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>>90808270
I don't see why not
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Previewed Samurai Jack at LA, the fight with the daughters is hands down the most intense fight in the series yet. It's much more violent than what most people expected as well, could just listen to that audio alone and be satisfied.
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>>90786489
Chimera Ant arc is obviously going to perform the best but it's going to take forever to get there.
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>>90809609
How close are we to it?
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>>90807834
Hey, DeMarco listened to the rabid HxH and JoJo fandoms. They might as well listen to the Gundam community.
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>>90809808

About a year and some change? This is assuming no marathons, but there's going to be some, so...
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>>90803217
This basically sums it up. Wing was a massive success for a franchise launch in the US, but the popularity began to taper off quicker than you would expect. G and 08th MS Team held their own, but not as much as Wing. Of course then they shot themselves in the both feet by airing the original MSG series (hell they might as well have blown off their legs with a shotgun) which looked extremely dated (which is what happens with most shows from the 70's)

No Gundam series is going to undo that damage permanently. Sure, it'll probably get some new fans but nothing near the potential they squandered.

It could have stuck around with fans like DBZ, but in the end they extinguished their own flame. It's far too late to carve out that place in a bunch of kids memories.
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>>90791387
who the fuck would watch Jojos english dub wtf is wrong with people.
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>>90803217
> nobody gave a fuck because it aired on Syfy

hey now, Scifi had a pretty good anime block back then. They aired Gurren Lagann and Eureka 7 back to back.
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>>90810343
I never once watched their line-up because Gundam 00 sucked dick and i had already seen both E7 (on Adult Swim in fucking 2006) and Gurren Lagann.
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>>90810343
Monster was fun to watch too.
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>>90810343
Yea with commercials spliced into the most retarded places
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>>90811031
How bad was it? They must have some pretty insane advertising contracts in place. That or their team must have done some pretty bad editing, but for stuff like that usually the distributor will do it but maybe it differs on cable channels.

t. someone who worked as a Broadcast Technician for ABC for 3 years
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>>90808060
The difference is Killua doesn't want to be an overpowered killer, it's just the only thing he knows how to do. He's traveling with Gon so he can be the sort of incredibly kind person he THINKS Gon is.

Once Gon gets pushed too hard, though, he doesn't care whether he becomes overpowered or a danger to people's lives, so long as he can accomplish what he wants.
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>>90805867
I almost lost my spaghetti I was so hyped, I really wanted to do something nice for Toonami's 20th for a while now and I had my wish come true getting to talk to them.

Goddamn I'm glad I drinking go out drinking tonight.
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>>90811818
Wait shit I mean I'm glad I didn't go out drinking tonight, my work hours are catching up to me.
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>>90811239
>how bad was it
GIGA
DRILL
quiznos 2.99 sub
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>>90804005
Sexually btfo'd?
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hey I colored the OP image if anyone cares. r8
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>>90812965
would rape then headpat/10
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>>90812435
You could say that
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>>90812965
And now it's an epic meme
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