DC's The Flintstones

>>90773979
Steve Pugh is vastly underrated, he's been kicking ass on everything he does for years now.

>>90773979
I can't find a link on /co/. Is there a mega/google file?

>>90773979
>Current comic where Steve Rogers is a fascist manipulator.
>Current comic where the Captain America is a black man dealing with, among other things, divisiveness
>"The Flintstones" is the best political book anyway

Bravo, Spencer!

>>90774686
Spencer writers better comedy than Russell and Steve Rogers is the best ongoing from the big 2 right now.

>>90774714
Everything Marvel has been putting out has been trash and you goddamn know it.

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>>90773979
Yes, it's probably my top 2 favorite book right now. Funny, creative, touching.

>>90774242
Anything else from him you'd recommend?

>>90774714
Whatever you say, Spencer.

Absolutely loving it, OP. The only bad thing is that it's going to be ending soon.

>>90774582
Check the win-o's. I know they've been posted.

>>90774582
http://www.readcomics.tv/comic/the-flintstones

>>90774862
I'm reading it on comicextra, but it's got readcomic's watermark on it so I assume that's where it came from

>>90774862
>>90774929
Thx guys.

>>90773979
No, I'm not surprised. Russel's Prez was great, I was really excited when he was announced for Flintstones.

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I'm not exactly sure I'm in love with how they're throwing around the word "appliance" my googles

>>90774686
>>90774714
>>90774827
Just one thread.

Just... one... thread...

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YES BUT HAVE YOU ACTUALLY STOPPED TO THINK ABOUT THE HYPOCRYSY INHERENT TO THE UNEQUAL ECONOMIC MODEL WE HAVE SUBJECTED OURSELVES TO???????

Anyone else read Fred with John Goodman's voice? Or does everyone just hear the originals?

>>90773979
I think it's in the spirit of the first season. Of course the topics are different 50 years later.

>>90775978
Neither. He sounds like Homer to me.

>>90774835
Hotwire

>>90775978
It started that way for me probably because he played him in the movie. But now- I'm half way through- it sounds more like Jon Hamm. I think because it's such a stark departure from the cartoon in tone, but also Fred is drawn much more muscular and youthful in the comic
>>90776070
Is it? I grew up only watching it passively in reruns and didn't really pay that much attention. What do you think is so similar?

>>90773979
Just you, OP.

>>90774835
Dino is the house nigger...Whoa

I need to read these.

>>90773979
I'm more surprised it has kept being so good.

>>90774242
Fuck, I remember buying the 2000ad with his first (to my knowledge) work in it, the Strontium Dog Feral story, I thought his art was cool then but when he went to linework as opposed to painted stuff he got even better.

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A Pup Named Scooby Doo grity reboot comic when?

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>>90776881
There's Scooby Apocalypse, does that count?

>>90776986
Is tghat Gavin Mcinnnis?

>>90776986
Why does Shaggy look exactly like caricature of a liberal /pol/ loves to throw around?

>>90777143
Because that's how they look

>>90777212
Oh shut up.

>>90777143
Because hippies are outdated.

>>90777480
You getting mad doesn't change the fact that it is true

>>90777578
I'm gonna punch you in the beef

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>>90777745

>>90777828
No, that's not the one- I meant the black and white cartoon rageface one where the dude is wearing a mask. I'd post it, but I couldn't find it.

>>90775978
I read him with BoJack Horseman's voice lol

>>90776103
>>90778297
jesus fucking christ what is wrong with this place?

>>90773979
Too bad it's not a comic book but a soapbox to spew irrelevant hogwash.

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>>90779097

Why are you in this thread them

>>90773979
>surprised
I'm happy, not surprised. If you dumb bitches had listened and read Mark Russel's Prez like you were supposed to, you'd know he's hot shit.

>>90779097
Irrelevant to what?

>>90779407
This is why pre-nups exist.

>>90775919
the only issue i didn't enjoyed so far

>>90779213
How the fuck does the TV work?

>>90779569
Wall demons.

>>90777143
Because Shaggy was always an annoying hippie.

>>90775978
Honestly a mix of both

>>90773979
I fucking love that cover.

>>90777539
>>90779730
He's been a stoner always, but I guess I'll give them a few point for not going the easy joke.

>>90776986
I-is Velma a loli in this?

>>90779730
That's exactly why I can't imagine taking this much care of his moustache or his looks in general. He looks like he gets high on chai latte instead of reefer.

>>90780654
>I-is Velma a loli in this?

a little person

>>90779213
To distrupt, even a little bit, your snowflake echo chamber hugbox safespace in which this blatant sewer of political bias has value.

>>90779264
Irrelevant to anyone with a functioning brain.

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>>90780688
That's even better!

>>90780719
So not irrelevant at all but offensive to you?

>>90780719
this needs hyphens

>>90780719
>your snowflake

How ironic. Anyway, you add a lot to this board, and this thread. You're not just ineffectual trolling, but really making people think.

>>90777122
>>90777143
He looks like a complete faggot, but the writing for his character is spot on.

>>90774835
what's the other one just out of curiousity?

>>90780654
No, just petite.

>>90780877
Injection

>>90780763
It's not offensive, it's just bad. Badly written, unfunny and a heavy-handed propaganda piece leeching on people's nostalgia. You can't even think outside this faulty dichotomy of "offensive" and "acceptable".

>>90780816
>A-bloo-bloo, he doesn't like that regurgitated political garbage that I do
>must be trolling

>>90780966
I'm probably the only guy itt who agrees that the socio-political commentary is too heavy-handed, too omnipresent, and really not that interesting, but I'd say at least it can be funny.
Which is enough to make it better than what I expected and better than most of what I've read from the big 2 recently.

>>90780966
How is it propaganda?

>>90780966
>Unfunny
Appliance please

>>90773979
I'm surprised by the vast amount of 14 year olds that think the casual observations this book makes are SOOO DEEP and TOOO REAL 4 ME!!1 in every single fucking storytime thread.

>>90780966
>It's not offensive
You seemed pretty offended by it. Remember, it's taken, not given.

>Badly written, unfunny
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.

>a heavy-handed propaganda piece
Propaganda for what?

>leeching on people's nostalgia
I don't see anyone in here jerking off to Flintstones nostalgia. Outside of the cast of characters, setting and the animals as tools/appliances schtick, the comic bares pretty much no resembelence to any other versions of The Flintstones.

>You can't even think outside this faulty dichotomy of "offensive" and "acceptable".
Yes I can, I just did, you must've missed it.

>>90781157
They're not 14, just cape readers.
Of course the Flintstones and Prez look deep by comparison to Champions.

>>90781157
Why are you so bored by it?

>>90781104
If it espouses political views he agrees with, it's truth.

If it espouses political views he doesn't agree with, it's propaganda.

"Propaganda" is to the right what "offensive" is to the left.

>>90774835
>The entire issue was setting up this one joke

I love this goddamn comic so much.

>>90781242
So any piece of social satire is guaranteed propaganda that cannot be enjoyed at all?

>>90781234
He didn't say he was.

>>90781264
In his mind, yes.

>>90780966
Mr. Slate, how did you get internet access?

>>90776881
Scooby Doo Mystery Inc got really weirdly gritty at times, including Fred going through one of the saddest character arcs I've ever seen in a cartoon with his parents
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Tn_s-T9Yac

>>90781242
"Propaganda" is not a charged term, you nitwit. Same with "regime", only media and political activists think they are. Most people suffer from confirmation bias and they will eagerly accept the propaganda of their choosing. The author here uses thinly veiled methaphors to push his views on the reader. It is objectively propaganda, whether one agrees with it or not.

>>90781164
>Propaganda for what?
Authors boring liberal bullshit.

>I don't see anyone in here jerking off to Flintstones nostalgia.
Using an established franchise to push your views on people, like that's not piggybacking on nostalgia for a fairly innocent cartoon.

>You seemed pretty offended by it. Remember, it's taken, not given.
Liberals! Fuck me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos

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>>90780719

I missed someone off just for reading Flintstones

That's a new one for me

Settle down anon just cause you don't like it doesn't mean you have to get on your soap box and tell everyone that you don't like it

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lets ignore the troll

>>90781669

*Pissed

bloody auto

Guys, remember to let Dan Didio know how much we like this series.

[email protected]

>>90781537
Propaganda isn't just "pushing views" on people for the sake of them agreeing with you, though, it's
>information, ideas, or rumors deliberately spread widely to help or harm a person, group, movement, institution, nation, etc.
so who's the message of the book supposed to help/harm exactly?

That's also not what a metaphor is.

There's fuck-all nostalgia for the Flintstones on /co/, the cartoon is basically underrated around here because people only remember it as time-filler for late 90s CN.

And before you get angry, I'm the guy who agrees the commentary in this isn't good.

>>90781537
>"Propaganda" is not a charged term
Well words mean things, you stupid bastard. You conflate an author putting their own opinions into something they're writing with some sort of agenda. That's not the fucking case.

Mark Russel isn't pushing anything, he's telling us his thoughts and feelings. You can disagree with him, but if you think that he's doing so for ulterior motives, you're a fucking philistine.

>>90781774
Why not use this definition:
>ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause; also : a public action having such an effect

Or this one:
>information, ideas, opinions, or images, often only giving one part of an argument, that are broadcast, published, or in some other way spread with the intention of influencing people's opinions:

The author has a clearly leftist-liberal view of the world and uses metaphors and/or analogies as means to present them. It's like saying that Germans using the images of cockroaches and rats to metaphorically depict Jews wasn't propaganda.

>There's fuck-all nostalgia for the Flintstones on /co/, the cartoon is basically underrated around here because people only remember it as time-filler for late 90s CN.

Still a recognisable brand that's remembered rather innocently and fondly.

>>90781935
>he's preaching his views
>maybe shits on a franchise
>but he ain't pushin' nuthin'
>nossuh

That's not his autobiography, son. It's his soapbox and a tube and using Flinstones for political shit is fucking vile.

>>90782074
The difference being that the German government was a political entity whose only interest in art was as a means to control. Mark Russel is one man.

The Germans goal was propaganda, Mark Russel just wants to speak his mind and is unconcerned with winning hearts and minds.

>>90782182
>using Flinstones for political shit is fucking vile
You're a fucking idiot, your whole thing ITT is childish and pretentious. The Flintstones always riffed on social/politcal commentary and gender roles, and anyway media changes. You're boring.

>>90782182
How is he shitting on it? Has he been somehow unfaithful or contradictory to the source material? Or is it just wrong to use it to discuss politics and social issues? Even if it makes sense within the context of the setting and characters themselves?

>>90773979
>surprised
Not at all, since Russell wrote Prez.

>>90774714
If by the best, you mean decompressed as Fuck and middle of the road.

>>90774835
Jeff Lemire's Animal Man had him as a rotating artist.

>>90782236
So, private entities before 1933 using such imagery, like Der Sturmer which started it's run ten years prior, wanted to only speak their mind and were unconcerned with winning hearts and minds? Sure. Or maybe using a medium to further your political views is, gasp, propagandising.

>>90782292
There are reruns constantly in our morning programme that I sometimes watch before work. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Or you're just a liberal arts student thinking depiction of suburban life is a social/political commentary on gender roles. Which would only prove my point.

>>90782319
>Has he been somehow unfaithful or contradictory to the source material?
Not him but Fred in this comic is nothing like cartoon Fred.

>>90782553
Well, you've got me there, but if that's the only example, my point still stands.

>>90782319
Where has he been in tune with the source material? Apart from the dinosaur appliances?

>>90782526
Dude, I've told you again and again, Mark just wants to share his opinions. He doesn't care if people agree with him or not, he just wants people to think. Der Sturmer, the Third Reich, they had obvious goals in the world of politics. Mark is just writing a fucking comic book.

>>90782526
I'm not sure why you're completely hung up on the concept of propaganda if you also don't think it's negatively charged. If any opinion being expressed through fiction is propaganda meant to "further your political views" (whatever the fuck that means) then why exactly is it wrong that this specific book does it? Because 99.9% of fiction does it.

>thinking depiction of suburban life is a social/political commentary on gender roles
Next thing you'll tell us Modern Family and Malcolm in the Middle aren't politically charged because they happen in suburbia too.

>>90782706
Yeah, sure. You don't spout your beliefs into the void, of course he wants people to agree with him.

>>90782716
Because he uses that tired old trope of taking something innocent and turning it SERIOUS and not just SERIOUS, but SOCIALY AWARE SERIOUS.

>Because 99.9% of fiction does it.
Damn, must've missed all those political, oh I don't know, Donald Duck comic books. There were some, but mostly during the war. Maybe we're in a state of cultural war and Flinstones is just munitions for one liberal shitstain that managed to get his mits on them? Naaah.

>Next thing you'll tell us Modern Family and Malcolm in the Middle aren't politically charged because they happen in suburbia too.
Couldn't tell you, never seen any of it.

>>90782932
>of course he wants people to agree with him
Sure, it'd be nice, but that's not the goal. And so what if they do? He's not suggesting anything radical or dangerous.

>>90782932
>Damn, must've missed all those political, oh I don't know, Donald Duck comic books.
Evidently you missed all the Scrooge McDuck ones.
>Maybe we're in a state of cultural war and Flinstones is just munitions for one liberal shitstain that managed to get his mits on them? Naaah.
Indeed "naaah". Cultural war? What kind of retard are you?

>>90779234
Truer words never spoken in this thread. So pissed about the cat woman shuffle on the missing half of the series.

>>90783142
>Indeed "naaah". Cultural war? What kind of retard are you?
He's just confused because he reads Breitbart, anon, don't be so harsh.

>>90783142
>Evidently you missed all the Scrooge McDuck ones.
Oh yeah, they were soooo political.

>Indeed "naaah". Cultural war? What kind of retard are you?
This is what happens when two opposing cultural trends clash, mostly broadly understood conservative and liberal. They struggle for the support of the people. But hey, it's not like Murrica has regular riots and campus burnings, right? There's no rise in political violence and no serious polarisation in the society. Everything's fineeeee.

Anyone know if/when the Booster Gold/Flintstones crossover will be collected? (and the other Hanna-Barbera/DC crossovers) I'd really like have them all but buying floppies is a bitch for me so if the odds of them getting collected are pretty good then I'll just wait.

Also when will we get the solicit for The Flintstones Volume 2?

Is this in a trade yet?

>>90783357
>But hey, it's not like Murrica has regular riots and campus burnings, right?
Right, they aren't very regular at all.

There are many, many protests, for sure, but that's what happens when an extremely unpopular president who does not have the support of the majority of his country takes office.

Some protests turn into riots, but pretty rarely. Campus burnings? The one you keep crying about was months ago.

>>90783396
First volume comes out March 28.

>Anybody else kind of surprised by how good it's turning out to be?

Takes it's visual cues from the shitty live action movie.

Minimal continuity with the primary root, the TV series.

Openly political.

I'm fucking astounded.

>>90783502

Groovy. Preordering.

>>90783433
>Unpopular
>wins the election (yeah, yeah electoral college, not the first time)
>still retains around 45% approval

No, this is what happens when leftist/liberal animals protest. Obongo wasn't popular with the Murrican conservatives and they didn't wreck shit. Just marched in a rather orderly fashion.

Not months ago, but a MONTH ago at most. Most protests when two opposing sides meet turn into riots. Nothing rare about that.

>>90783357
>Oh yeah, they were soooo political.
No, there's nothing political about the tales of character who got richer than everyone else in his universe by the sweat of his brow because the system is just fair like that.
>inb4 but that's true
Bites the big one doesn't it. I guess propaganda is okay as long as you agree with it.

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>>90775398
>appliance, please!

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>It's a "promising thread gets derailed by trolls" episode

>>90782553
Actually he is.

Fred was always a little materialistic, but he's a good person. His greatest fear was always that Wilma will be mad or leave him. Sure they fought, and their marriage was a little rocky but in the end it was always Fred who came to apologize first. Most of the conflicts in the Flinstones came from Fred and Barney trying to do something good, fucking it up, and trying to hide or fix it before their wives flip the fuck out.

>>90781677
Loved that one with monogamous marriage being a new and scary concept.

>In my day we had the sex cave
>If you wanted sex you go in and have sex with whoever was there too
>Then everyone would raise the kid because no one knew who the parents were
>That's how it's always been