What If... Marvel didn't sell out?

>>90772254
I don't like it because we would still have a ton of legacy characters replacing old characters who die or get too old. I like the sliding timescale which effectively makes heroes immortal like gods.

>>90772254
P.S. Surprise! It's not a Carol thread!

Although, ironically enough, she IS one of the biggest examples of post-90s character development in Marvel. Not quite sure what to make of that.

>>90772361
It's people like you that were responsible for One More Day.

>>90772254
>and figure it hinges on "change"

You're not wrong. People will point to Stan Lee bringing up how there should be "the illusion of change", but the truth is books got stagnant fast when they just basically spun their wheels. It's just as bad when they overdo change for the sake of shock value or attention.

>>90772361
My fave cape is immortal anyway. That's not a problem for me personally. If anything it makes it harder to take the mortal heroes seriously, by comparison.
And legacy characters wouldn't be mandatory. The original New Warriors lineup prided itself on all being original concepts.

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>>90772470
Ironically enough II: Stan only coined the illusion of change after 1968. Before that change went ahead full force, almost in real-time. Culminating in the ultimate example of dynamic realistic change; the birth of Franklin Richards.

>>90772254

They would release new "What If"-style books, like "what if Peter Parker became Spiderman in the 90s?", which would then explode in popularity and overshadow the main line of books if their success is follows up upon.

>>90772478
>My fave cape is immortal anyway.
Hm, that's actually something I'd like to see. An immortal/long lived character like Thor remaining a constant in an ever-changing Avengers team. Would be great to see how it affects them

>>90773831
I know right?
All I get are the snippets from What Ifs and glimpses of futures that'll never arrive.

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>>90773755
r u bein cheeky

>>90772254
Iron Man probably would have become an AI a lot faster and the pilot would be a bastard child of him. Spider Girl may have become mainstream with a kid of her own by now. Oddly enough, Doom would still be Doom though.

>>90776033
>Oddly enough, Doom would still be Doom though.
kek
How do you figure?

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This is unironically one of the worst comics I've ever read.

>>90775836
Does anyone have a link to the Claremont run, in order? Torrent preferred

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>>90776749
https://mega.nz/#F!5kJFCBjJ!TG-NaDE3TdmkZ_uVOkD3eg

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>>90776688
Who else can speak in all caps as well as he can?

>>90776877
I love you and would gladly snikt your bubs

>>90776714
Try some Marguerite Bennett sometime, it'll help you recontextualize.

>>90772254
It started as early as the '60s when Kirby wanted to kill off the Asgardians and replace them with the New Gods (which is the opening of the actual New Gods comic). Also after Ditko left Spider-Man, his development became slower and he was kind of frozen in one status quo for a long time.

I think these characters have lasted so much longer than anybody thought they would that the "illusion of change/snap back/change/snap back" method is the only way.

>>90778654
>kill off an entire beloved cast just to springboard a new idea
That's the opposite extreme. Sounds like the editor-driven stagnation we see today is a cumulative overreaction to that creator-driven chaos.
Goddammit I just want some middle ground!