KNEEL BEFORE KINO!

>>90757786
How can Marvel even compete?

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>>90759848
>How can Marvel even compete?


one (1) billion (1,000,000,000) dollars

>>90759918
B-b-b-b-but no Oscar!

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>>90757786
Marvel can only accept the lesser title of Oscar nominee..
Which comes with double box office money.

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>>90759848
where it counts.

>>90757786
2017, the year DCfriends decided the Oscars were the absolute objective measure of greatness, and lost the last remaining shreds of credibility.

>DC has three oscars now.

Really makes you think.

>>90760299
DC is like a medium rare steak, whereas marvel is a cheeseburger. the steak has more depth to its flavor and is better for you, but a burger is cheap and still tastes pretty good in its own right.

>>90760378
DCEU is a steak cooked by an 8 year old.

They honestly thought they could just throw it on the grill with no spices and serve it well done, and are shocked that no one likes it.

But at least it somehow looked nice.

>>90757786
Is this a real cover?

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>>90757786
Comics:

>DC killing it
>Marvel embarrassing itself and chasing leftovers when it used to dominate

Movies:

>Marvel killing it
>DC embarrassing itself and chasing leftovers when it used to dominate

THUS WE HAVE BROUGHT BALANCE TO THE WORLD

>>90760424
Well done is pretty good.
That's why they make steak sauce.

>>90760424
>They honestly thought they could just throw it on the grill with no spices and serve it well done, and are shocked that no one likes it.
You could have said they served it well done with a side of ketchup.

>>90760442
Steak sauce is just there to carry shitty steak anon.

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>>90759918
>that cap outfit
Everytime.

>>90760424
8 year olds are pretty crafty. Anyone can learn to cook a steak.

>>90759918
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>>90760102
Apparently money can't quite seem to buy talent or any sort of quality for that matter.

Marvel is doomed. Ben Afflec will rise from the ashes to usher us into an age of enlightenment while marvel dance offs into oblivion. The Batman total Oscars? Minimum 3.

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Is Keno kino?

>>90757786
Is that a real cover? Cause that's almost as bad as 10/10 Arkham City

>>90760459
Steak sauce is a complimentary addition.

At least Marvel is doing well on the TV front.

>>90760515
Yes, so is ketchup.

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Mmm, DC.

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This DC is amazing.

>>90760599
I know how you feel about cereal Geoff but this is pushing it.

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God, I love DC.

>>90759848
presumably by hiring better makeup artists

>>90760599
Go to bed, Johns.

>>90760442
>needing sauce to enjoy your steak
then its just a shitty steak

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So creative.

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>>90757786
>this thread
You fucker, I was trying to hold off until morning.

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Just a mix of good things all in one movie.

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Just throw all that shit in there, yeah. Get creative.

>>90760483
Yeah but they keep making more money anyway

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Who cares if it's nothing like the source? It'll taste just as great!

>>90760548
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>>90760903

Imagine being this mad over batnz

>>90759918
>one (1) billion (1,000,000,000) dollars

Between the three films released so far, DCEU had surpassed the $2B mark in the box office.

>>90760916
>incoming extensive food metaphors

>>90760424
Usually when you grill a steak the best seasoning is a small amount of salt and better at best.

>>90760947
>salt and better at best
Where the fuck is my head.

Salt and pepper at most.

Less is more with steak.
Though I've had good luck with some marinades; usually "burgundy pepper"

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Yeah, let whatever his name is, Lex Luger force old man to eat jolly ranchers, who cares!

>>90760496
I won $2500 out of that so it's a yes in my book.

>>90760541
Steak and ketchup don't really go that well together.

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Want him to piss in jars? Why not?

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Joker with shitty hot topic tier tattoos? Sign me up!

>>90761030
i would eat most of these

>>90760903
>nothing like the source.
I vehemently disagree and I don't even like these movies, DCEU is way more comic accurate.

I'm out of shitty food but I had fun shitposting.

>>90760947
>>90760972
>less is more
Agreed that a perfectly cooked steak matters the most to a steak's taste above all else, but salt and pepper alone don't add much to the flavor for me since they're already present in most other meals.

So long as we agree that a well done steak belongs in the trash (as if I could throw away perfectly edible food away like that, but you get the sentiment) I'd gladly eat at your place anytime.

>>90760903
>nothing like the source
Yetah! Why can't DC be more accurate with their movies like Mar-
>Tony created Ultron
Oh
>Tony is Spider-man's mentor
Oh wait
>Baron mondo hates magic
Shit how do I turn this off
>Ego the living planet is star-lord's father

>>90761218
I don't like Marvel movies much either, little buckaroo.

>>90759918

DC has 2 billion with 3 films

>>90761070
I think I have autism, but that shit bothers me. To get those tats the Joker would have to sit still for fucking hours, which is very unlike the Joker, Leto Joker in particular.

Also your image makes me want to commit suicide

>>90761218
>>Tony is Spider-man's mentor

This actually really bothers me

>>90760427
yes. it's also the adds on the shelve kiosks

>>90761218
>Tony created Ultron
Better than Doomsday being a Zod zombie
>Tony is Spider-man's mentor
Batman only stopped murdering after Super Jesus died for his sins.
>Baron mondo hates magic
Pa Kent wanted Clark to let people die, and eventually died himself to uphold this absurd position. Nice.
>Ego the living planet is star-lord's father
Jimmy Olson is a CIA agent. And dead.

The MCU is shit but don't pretend the DCEU doesn't smell at least as bad.

>>90761030
This one looks tasty.

>>90761401
>>90760427

That's pretty funny to be honest

>>90760921
Yeah they only had to use their biggest properties to do so right off the bat.

Meanwhile Marvel is taking no name properties and turning them into near billion dollar flicks like Gotg. Face it, DC is using pre-existing interest in a handful of character to float an otherwise aped cinematic effort while Marvel is taking B and C list properties and turning them into household names.

>>90760440
everything multimedia dc shits on marvel even movies"animated". the tv shows are subjective and debatable.

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>>90759918
Marvel is officially the Keit-ai of Superhero Movies.

>>90761489
>near billion dollar flicks like Gotg

Not really near billion when it doesn't even make 800mil

>>90761489
I never thought of it like that, Marvel is basically turning their characters into Pop Culture Icons in much the same way DC did with 60s Batman, 70s Wonder Woman, Donner's Superman and Tim Burton's Batman.

>>90761523
Wait for the sequel.

>>90761523
I know terrible right for an completely out of nowhere IP. Marvel should be so ashamed, I'm sure the sequels won't make more than that.

>>90761505
Except DC hasn't put out anything really all that worthwhile in terms of cartoons in quite some time. You still got video games though, so good for you there.

>>90761547
>for an completely out of nowhere IP.

I'm sure the MCU branding did nothing to help the film

>>90761523
Neither did Batman and Superman

>>90761523
hey DC fags have been saying that about films and they did about the same.

>>90761567

Batman v Superman did make over 800mil.

>>90761566
If that were true why didn't Antman sell that much?

>>90761404
>Better than Doomsday being a Zod zombie.
Is it tho?

>>90761582

>hey DC fags have been saying that about films

So they're also wrong. Close to a billion is like 20 or 30 mil off, not fucking 230

>>90761591
Yes actually, particularly since Ultron wasn't a giant Cave Troll/Ninja Turtle.

I think people should pit the porn parody Marvel and DC movies against each other and compare them.

>>90761588

Because GoTG looked like and was a great film with really good marketing. The adds for Ant-Man had Paul Rudd saying "lol My name is shit!"

>>90761597
As if it really matters or negates the point the person was trying to make with Gotg. You're just using superfluous nitpicking to try and negate a point that stand inarguable all the same. GOTG was Marvel making gold from virtually nothing meanwhile DC is still struggling to ape movies with Superman, Batman and Wonderwoman.

>>90761561
Green lantern the animated series was just four years ago and Justice League action is currently ongoing.

>>90761610
But according to you MCU branding was the only reason GOTG made the bank that it did.

>>90761615
And no one cares about either. Batman the Brave and the Bold was the last DC offering anyone honestly gave a shit about.

>>90761614

You know it wasn't that long ago that "DC' had two Batman films make over a billion.

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>>90757786
I'm sure they are crying all the way to the bank.

>>90761625

It's not the only reason but are you really saying it wasn't a big help?

>>90761640
Yet a Batman and Superman movie couldn't. Really makes you think huh?

>>90761602
Except we're not talking about design
>they're about the same in quality
We're talking which one is faithful to the comics.

>>90761658

Not really. It was a bad movie. That doesn't say anything about the popularity of the characters. It's that Snyder is incompetent and nepotism is cancer

>>90761656
Since nothing about it even seemed remotely Marvel to the casual viewer and the marketing as being part of the MCU being so subversive I really have to question it's value.

>>90761404
>Pa Kent wanted Clark to let people die,
No he didn't.

>>90761668
Ultron was still leagues more faithful.

>>90761679
And that was the point all along so....

>>90761651

>Both of the DCEU films made the top 10

Yeah this shit isn't going anywhere

>>90761679
>nepotism is cancer
This is an absolute truth.

>>90760483
Yeah, no matter how much they shoveled at Leto, Smith, or reshoots, Skwad just couldn't be good.

>>90761404
>jimmy olsen is a CIA agent
I have no problem with this.
>and dead
I have no problem with this.

>>90761694
>Ultron was still leagues more faithful.

Not really. Doomsday's origin was different but he was still a raging spastic. Ultron's motive was the same but his characteristics were way off

>>90761694
>Ultron was still leagues more faithful.
How? Doomsday is a flat character so all that matters is that he sorta kills superman which he did.

>>90761722
Maybe you should read a comic with Ultron in it sometime.

>>90761736
So then all that matters is how he looks and how he's used in a story, which in BvS was an abortion.

>>90761697
BvS had a huge drop off in seats. That number was basically made in the first week. If WW sours up as bad enjoy watching Thor of all things out perform Justice League.

>>90761748
He was a damn cave troll in BvS. They weren't even trying.

>>90761761
Suicide Squad was a massive hit and destroyed Dr Strange in the box office. BvS also made more money in blurays. DCEU is here to stay bby

>>90760098
I chuckled.

>>90761761

None of this matters as much as /co/ and /tv/ thinks it does. Fox X-men proves this, they have had shit films and flops but as soon as the make something genuinely good like Logan people flock out to see it

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>>90761783
>Dog days of summer film with no competition
>November film that goes to head with Harry Potter

By your logic Cap and Deadpool train rape BvS.

>>90761783
Every other blockbuster that year outsold BvS and Skwad on DVD/Blu-Ray. Even Pets outsold both. And Dr. Strange was the introduction of a B/C-list character that not even casuals knew was a hero in any capacity before hand meanwhile Skwad was marketed non-stop as Joker and Harley buddy flick. Honestly it's damned embarrassing Suicide Squad didn't do better or are you going to laud Man of Steel for beating Ant Man too?

>>90761803
The key there is "make something genuinely good"

>>90761820
>Every other blockbuster that year outsold BvS and Skwad on DVD/Blu-Ray.

Not him. I just want to see the data on this

>>90761748
>So then all that matters is how he looks and how he's used in a story
Yeah?

I still want my money back. That movie was a fucking joke, not a funny one either.

>>90761838
Which was abhorrent and therefor less faithful.

>>90761832

And WB can do that. They have done it before. I don't think Wonder Woman and JL will be those movies though

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>>90761803
>being this retarded
It's making about as much as apocalypse(currently floating at 450k, XA made about 550k). That's about on par. You guys are really over blowing the hype. Logan is a good film but it's not generating seats like Deadpool did.

>>90761808
>>90761820
>what about these excuses?
They are ok, just like Doctor Strange. But they fail against the real thing, just like Doctor Strange

>>90761808
Dr. Strange was still shit.

>>90761687
>What was I supposed to do, let them DIE?
>Maybe

Holy shit, DCEUfags are straight up revisionist.

> b-b-b-but our Comics, Cartoons and Video games are still better!

Still not helping your movies, unless trying to convince yourself DC is more popular with casuals (the same people you bash as not counting when it suits your interests) is some kind of consolation prize you're trying to tout. When it suits your interests or argument you'll claim true comic book fans are the people who matter and when it suits your interests or argument you'll claim only casuals matter and when it suits your interests or argument you'll claim only kids matter.

It's the same way that a year or two ago the MCU movies being box office successes didn't count because money =/= quality, yet now that the DCEU has movies that are making money, it's the only thing Snyderdrones will praise said movies for. No DCEU fan even defends Suicide Squad as a good movie, they just keep saying: "It made money" / "Sold more halloween costumes".

>>90761859
You've got along wait ahead of you son.

>>90761857
Well it's not like Doomsday's comic book look is any less generic than cave troll.

>>90761820
>And Dr. Strange was the introduction of a B/C-list character

So was Fantastic Beasts but that made more money. Sure it's connected to Harry Potter but Strange is connected to the MCU which is supposedly hugely popular. It's just always funny to me that there's an excuse to why a Marvel film doesn't perform as well but the MCU is still lauded as the biggest shit ever

>>90761873
It's more like MCU friends try to sell the point of "it made money it can't be bad!" and the DCEU making mad bank too proves them wrong. That's the joke

>>90761861
Doesn't change the fact that BVS and Skwad intentionally came out with no competition because WB was afraid of having them compete.

>>90761877
He had an iconic appearance however. Don't pretend that if a Death of Superman movie had been announced in the future you wouldn't be creaming your pants of it, but since it was crammed into BvS as a half-assed third act suddenly it doesn't really matter.

>>90761803
>but as soon as the make something genuinely good like Logan people flock out to see it
>444,944,737
>implying.
It's good but that's the number all the Xmen films have been getting post first class which did poor in theaters but that was because X3 hurt it. Same way Batman and Robin hurt Begins. There is some truth to believe that a bad string of films will poison the whole basket.

>>90761710
>He likes edge for the sake of edge
Next you'll be telling me Superman: At Earth's End is a better story than All-Star Superman.

>>90761899
Fantastic Beasts was highly touted as being a continuation of Harry Potter, one of the biggest juggernaut cinematic franchises ever. Sorry, but even being a part of the MCU can only do so much for any introduction movie, particularly one as unorthodox as Strange.

>>90761861
So then you agree BvS was destroyed by Disney in general? Because 6 films just march over the two most iconic capes in history during the high spell of cape films.

>>90761868
Then he immediately goes shit clark I don't know cause raising a kid is tough and raising an alien kid is even tougher. Honestly it was an emotional scene and Kevin Costner acted the shit out of it.

>>90761920
But Fantastic Beasts was't a HP sequel. It was an original side story. The continuation was the play: Cursed Child.

>>90761899
Fantastic Beasts was basically sold as Harry Potter. They used the same damn score theme in the trailers.

So now that Marvell has officially lost the company wars what will they do now?

>>90761946
Tell that to the marketing team that had "From the world of Harry Potter" plastered over every ad, tv spot and poster.

>>90761946

And it's a fucking prequel which dont tend to do as well

>>90761958
Continue making more money and having more fans than DC and not giving a fuck about make up I guess.

>>90761958
keep making money. Honestly I'm not interested in them till post RDJ just to see what they will do with IM.

>>90761967
According to who?

>>90761904
I actually kinda glad they got the death of Superman out of the way, it stops the endless speculation of when we're gonna get the death of suoerman movie and truth be told, the death of Superman isn't really that great of a storyline.

God, I can't stand the Harry Potter movies.

Didn't Doctor Strange make less than Sing domestically. What the fuck happened there?

>MCU made 11 billions with 14 movies
>DCEU made 2.2 billions with 3
According to my math, the DCEU is doing more than ok. Also 11 billions is supposedly the biggest thing ever but, really, REALLY, it's not that much. Taking theater's cut on the gross earnings, marketing and production costs and Disney paying 4 billions for this franchise, they 100% haven't made the money back the box office. Merchandising sales may be the real deal but I don't have the data.

tl,dr DCEU is better business wise than Marvel even comparing 14 movies vs 3

>>90761980
Yeah, because ruining both it as an iconic event and the movie it was in was well worth having to deal with people's endless speculation.

>>90761989
Sing was no joke more entertaining.

>>90761989
Marvel's demise

>>90761218
>Tony created Ultron
Only one that bothers me, really, and likely because I'm a Pymfag. Even the fake leaks had better origins for MCUltron. AoU was a mistake.

>>90761973

RDJ is Iron Man. Nobody will accept a recast. They will have to go legacy. Either way a RDJ departure would be a massive loss.

>>90761943
>Honestly it was an emotional scene and Kevin Costner acted the shit out of it.
You aren't helping the revisionist accusation buckaroo.

>>90761990
I'm sure that has nothing do with the DCEU having only touted his biggest properties right off the bat.

Had Marvel launched their shared cinematic Universe with Spider-Man and X-Men you might have a point, but since Marvel had to build there's from the ground up your argument really doesn't hold water and I have a feeling the second they stray from anything Trinity or Batman related those legs aren't going to hold up as well.

>>90761989
It was Iron Man 1+Inception without the good parts of Iron Man 1 and Inception

>>90761995
>iconic event
Nigga pls, we got the moneyshot and that's all what people cared about.

>>90761989
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>>90762003
And BvS did worse than Pets

>>90762027
You didn't actually watch the movie did you?

>>90762028
Evidently not the movie-going audiences.

>>90762036
Sadly I did

>>90761989
Sing was a decent film marketed right and came out at the perfect time to rope families in seats. What should really be bothering us is how Secret Life of Pets is so high. It was a very mediocre film that actually had some competition to face off with.

>>90762030

Pets was a great film. People love talking animals. It's why Rocket Raccoon isn't a big as risk as /co/ thinks it is

>>90762007
>Nobody will accept a recast
You seriously understatement Hollywood considering what we have seen with James Bond

>>90762020

DC Justice League heroes would be fine if the films themselves were good. A nobody like Deadpool made bank because the film was great.

>>90762050
So why didn't Kung Fu Panda 3 do better? Or Angry Birds? or Storks?

>>90762050
Name 2 live action talking animals that people love

>>90757786
when my brother and i saw this it legitimately was the first film we ever almost walked out of. Im glad we stayed. best comedy of 2016

>>90762077

James Bond isn't a shared universe. It's going to look fucked up to people when the Avengers are talking to some faggot as if he was always Tony Stark. The actor wold have to behave exactly like RDJ does as well to keep consitency.

There's far less freedom to stamp their mark on the role like actors for James Bond and Batman

>>90762007
Which is the bigger loss, Hugh Jackman or RDJ? Both are immanent while the DC actors are just getting started.

>>90762077
James Bond being recast is like a tradition, but a new dude slapping on an Iron Man helmet would definitely raise normie concerns.

>>90762020
The argument is stronger now I think about, because Disney didn't buy Marvel right off the bat. Even Avengers was made by Paramount, so we're talking Phase 2 onwards only. That's what, 9 billions or so, gross earnings? And they paid 4 billions? Even if the movies were free to make and market, it would be a really fucking poor deal. Jesus christ no wonder why they overcompensate so hard on the internet.

> Marvel movies, even the mediocre ones can be expected to make shit tons of money without end.
> Constantly forecasting how Wonder Woman and Justice League will fair with no real certainty how either will do.
> Have yet to see a non-Batman/Trinity DCEU movie perform.

Oh yeah, Marvel is totally finished. And Dr. Strange, that risky non-Super Hero Cape flick about a character no one knew was a comic book character proves it despite being praised by critics and making massive bank.

>>90762090
If the DCEU could even pull off a half-mediocre movie at this point everyone would be claiming praise for the DCEU and saying Marvel is dead.

No matter how well the MCU does, none of it ever counts and only their shortcomings are ever allowed in these discussions. But no matter how the DCEU fails, it's all swept under the rug and forgiven provided the next film is good. It's a frustrating double standard that is largely why people can't stand DCEU apologists and write them off as shitposters.

>>90762105

Because unlike Pets those films were shit

>>90762090
I fear this is the issue with WB and caps is no one is really understanding how to make a good film. I'm curious what their spin will be if JLA performs badly because now thanks to Logan they have lost the "people don't want dark cape flicks" argument leaving them with either claiming people "just don't get DC" or to out right blame the competition.

>>90762123
RDJ has said he isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

>>90762050
GotG is actually the safest movie in the entire MCU. Capeshit and talking animals are the biggest two money makers right now

>>90762141
Pets was fucking shit. It was Toy Story Dog edition with bad pacing and narrative.

>>90762123
Chis Evans has started to outpace RDJ. I wager by the time RDJ packs up Chris will be the big star.

>>90762123
Huge Actman is a huge draw and the loss will certainly be felt for at least the next normal X-film or two, RDJ is an equal if not higher draw, but the MCU has sorta proven it can somewhat stand on it's own (GOTG, Ant-Man, Strange, etc.).

X-Films not named Deadpool without Hugh are gonna be fucked unless they strike gold on another casting choice soon.

>>90762149
I thought he was only billed for one more avengers movie. Proof?

>>90762136
>that risky non-Super Hero Cape flick about a character no one knew was a comic book character
>played by one of the most famous actors on earth, ripping off the visuals of one of the most popular movies of this century, the first franchise movie right after an Avengers movie
Top delusion

>>90762123

Probably Hugh Jackman because Marvel has other guys to fall back on meanwhile Fox only has Ryan Reynolds (If you told me that two years ago I wold have laughed in your face)

Funny thing is though RDJ can outlast all the original Avenger actors because he doesn't need to keep himself muscular for the role. I know Evans and Henmsworth like their roles but it's a massive effort to keep yourself that jacked for so many years.

>>90762178
An avengers movie with spiderman made less than an avengers movie without spiderman just because "captain america" was on the title. Evans was paid a fraction of RDJ salary and less than Johanson for his own movie. The guy has negative brand value

>>90762205
They will just use body doubles and cgi like they did with Arnold

>>90762198
He's going to be cast movie to movie provided they can afford his price. The MCU has only planned as far ahead as the next Avengers films, but he's expected to stay a staple in the Spider-Man movies.

>>90762178
>Chis Evans has started to outpace RDJ. I wager by the time RDJ packs up Chris will be the big star.

Maybe but Chris Evans is an actual real human being and is in his mid 30's. He can't be Cap forever and if he had any sense he would bow out after Infinity War and leave at the peak of the MCU

>>90762226
Except it didn't have Avengers in the title and Spider-Man was only a cameo, your argument doesn't hold up friend. And if a 1 billion dollar flick is negative brand value then you better believe DC wants some of that negativity.

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>>90762178
Doesn't Evans want to drop acting and get into directing?

>>90762249
And Afleck is in his 50s so what's your point.

>>90762226
It still made a billion and the only others that can say that are Avengers and Iron Man. I'm not saying right now but it's expected he will build up to that.

>>90762016
If it's one thing DCEU does right it's actually utilizing its actors.

>>90762255
He said he will continue to act provided he can still direct.

>>90762226

>Less than Johanson

Fucking hell what a cuck. He needs a better agent to argue for more money

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>>90762226
>cap film
>makes a billion
>negative brand value.
What the fuck is Batman and Superman then? Hell what's Suicide Squad?

>>90762253
A cameo that they heavily advertise.

>>90762266
In what way? Driving them to alcoholism? Using Gadolt's ribs as facets to attach her costume?

>>90762261

Affleck is a depressed drunk. My point is that Evans is getting on and unlike Affleck he's had to keep himself in top condition for 10 years. It's exhausting

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>>90762226
>The guy has negative brand value
I don't even like the guy and this is the dumbest shit ever.

>>90762253
>>90762263
>>90762286
>the trailer revealing a huge avengers in-fight and spiderman showing up
>haha cap you did it again!
Repeat after me, Evans was paid less than Black Widow for his own movie. No one gives a fuck about him and he's still a meme character. Fuck I'd say even Bucky is more popular than him

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What happen in the last couple of days to start this whole falsefagging DC bait threads? Did a bunch of autistic people just start coming to /co/ out of nowhere? This /tv/ levels of shitposting.

>>90762263

Yeah a Cap film made over a billion. He only needed Iron Man to do it

>>90762288
Still didn't have Hulk or Thor in it so what's your point, without them it's not an Avengers film.

>>90762302
He's actually not as buff as he was for Cap1 and has little trouble bulking up for filming.

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>>90762301
>Using Gadolt's ribs as facets to attach her costume?

>>90762253
>>90762263
>>90762286
>>90762307
>SAVE ME TONY HELP ME MAKE BILLIONS!
kek

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>>90762312
>Repeat after me

>>90762253
>and Spider-Man was only a cameo

I don't think you know what a cameo is. Stan Lee has cameos. What Spider-Man had was a role

>>90762315
Lots of troublesome news for the DCEU has been popping up lately so lots of divisive threads. Alot of people are just getting tired of the Snyderkindo apologist shit I guess.

>>90762320
You mean just like how Superman needed batman to make what it did?

>>90762342
> Save me Drunk Bat HELP ME MAKE ALMOST A BILLION!

>>90762351
Doesn't change the fact he was only in a relatively small part of the film. Semantics don't change that.

Also, a reminder that you're still trying to defend the stupidity of saying Evans has negative brand value.

>>90762355
>You mean just like how Superman needed batman to make what it did?

Yes. Exactly like that

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Batman films are like pizza.

>>90762373
>Semantics

No faggot. Words have meaning. He had a role that was advertised as a huge drawing point and was heavily active in a key scene

>Also, a reminder that you're still trying to defend the stupidity of saying Evans has negative brand value.

I'm not even that guy

>>90762315
WW trailer was well received so it's shill season again.

>>90762374
So Superman has negative brand value too?

>>90762402
I thought it was a remake of Jason and the Argonauts only that one of the skeletons was the main character.

>>90762408

Apparently so

>Avengers movie makes X
>Captain America, an Avengers and Spiderman movie makes less than X
>heheheh negative brand value such a dumb thing to say!
Stay triggered friends

>>90762394
Yup, you have video games, enjoy your superior Batman games and superior Batman comics and superior Batman cartoons.

>>90762301
>in what way
By making sure they give an actual performance.
Last Marvel movie had
>Bendict cumberpatch
>Mads mikkelsen
>Tilda swinton
>Benedict wong
>and chiwetel ejiofor
And only cumbepants delivered an actual performance.

>>90762430
But without hulk and thor it's not Avengers.

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>doesn't even link anybody
>still keeps this up

>>90762443
>hulk and thor
who?

So why are people acting like WB can't make a smash hit with their DC characters? The people who made Fan4stic just made Logan

>marvel friends making fun of Ben's alcoholism for their brand war cancerposting
A new low for you guys

>>90762440

Even Bendydick Cucumberpatch was shit in this. Everybody was phoning it in. Except maybe that fat cunt who played Wong

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>>90762440
Should Mads Mikkkelsen been depressing a emo moody like Cavill or autistic and over acting like Leto. Or maybe he shoulda gotten jiggy with it like Will Smith. What was Ben Afleck's big contribution as an actor again? Oh yeah, he wore the Batman costume.

>>90762453
It wasn't the same team and creative control on both. It's what has made everyone watch this so closely. The guy that murder Batman and Superman is now making the Justice League and has control over the other films as well.

>>90762394
And there's no such thing as bad pizza.

>>90762489

Yeah but people are acting like no DC films can ever be good again

>>90762453
Unfortunately those aren't the same people making the DC films.

>>90762476
MOM'S GONNA FREAK!

>>90762480
Tell that to the audiences and movie critics.

>>90762276
Evans has admitted he does it more for fun than the money. Playing superheroes has always been his dream job so it's why he floats so low on the pay poll.

>>90762510
>movie critics.

Why would I give a fuck what they think after Ghostbusters?

>>90762453
They already did, that's the funniest part. Logan is performing worse than all three DCEU movies
>b-but wolverine isn't as popular as the joker's gf!
fuck off please just fuck off

>>90762507
Consider the following:
Better to assume it's shit and be pleasantly surprised than to expect something great only to be crushed by the shit you are given.

>>90762517
>Evans has admitted he does it more for fun than the money

But everything else he does fucking flops. He needs to milk this now

>>90762510
>audiences
Yeah they vastly prefered Suicide Squad, according to the numbers

>>90762527
well in fairness it is R rated.

>>90762507
And all signs are unfortunately pointing towards that being the case for the foreseeable future. Maybe a decade from now there will be a good DC film, but at this point you guys are so desperate that if they came out with something that was just barely passable you'd laud it as the greatest film ever made.

>>90762525
The same reason you care about the Oscars now despite neither MOS or BVS getting any.

>>90762548
Not according to the drop off rates in seats sold at theaters.

>>90762553

In fairness Suicide Squad didn't have a Chinese release

>>90762548
Strange maintained fairly consistent theater attendance where as Skwad saw a sharp drop off after it's first week.

>>90762565
It also didn't have any competition.

>>90762540
Why? Have you seen how he lives? Much like Keanu Reeves he lives very humbly and saves most the money he gets on acting jobs, the money he is getting is still really good for the job. He isn't living like Nicolas Cage and blowing his cash as soon as he gets it.

>>90762558
>The same reason you care about the Oscars now

Where did I say that? If you think I've joined a camp I'm sorry to disappoint you but I'm not a massive faggot

It's just that I have seen much better performances from all the actors in DS in other movies

>>90762585
>Have you seen how he lives?

lol no. I'm not a woman. I don't care about celebrities personal lives

>>90762586
>I'm not a massive faggot
You know the rules on that anon

>>90762586
Sorry but I'm addressing the entirety of the Apologist movement, not just your personal stand. Sorry, but you being a delicate snowflake doesn't change the larger trend of how people behave, think and argue.

>>90762599
>I don't care about celebrities personal lives
you care enough to worry he's not getting paid enough.
If you're gonna shitpost at least try and stay consistent

>>90762558
>>90762577
Suicide Squad had better legs than Civil War, after the initial drop it maintained really well for months and that's not counting the record breaking opening weekend (which justifies a little drop, SS made more money on its second weekend than Dr Strange on its second weekend)

>>90762540
>Makes millions of dollars a job for a decade
His career is going down the shitter!

I think he's doing just fine anon.

>>90762621

Stop it anon. You're destroying the narrative

>>90762621
And it also had less competition than either and was advertised as a Joker/Harley Quinn buddy flick so... your point? You're still comparing Apples to Oranges here.

>>90762613
>not just your personal stand

Then don't say "You" faggot

>>90762540
>Makes over triple digits a year without trying >Royalties for each film and merc for said films
>implying he needs to milk anything
I can't tell if your just a bad shitposter or stupid.

>>90762646
Comparing capeshit movies so all oranges, and the numbers say SS was more popular, just like Civil War was more popular than BvS. Not picking sides, quality wise they were all awful

>>90762621
>counting the record breaking opening weekend
if you are going to use that defense for SS then you know that would go double for Cap 3.

>>90762485
>Should Mads Mikkkelsen been depressing a emo moody.
Yeah, it would actually make a lot of sense considering his character is motivated by grief.
>but I guess it's better if he doesn't even try...

>>90762621
It was a highly anticipated property that had been hyped for over a year where as both Strange and Cap had competition at the theaters and Strange was a literally "who the fuck is that" cape film.

MOS, BVS and SKWAD were all three DC coming out swinging with their biggest guns trying to capitalize on the Avengers and GOTG market Marvel had already created for them.

>>90762648
Sorry if I lumped someone called "anonymous" in with other people named "anonymous" making similar arguments.

>>90762677
Of course it was more popular, Strange wasn't billed as a Joker/Harley Quinn movie.

That said Civil War was great and Strange was mediocre, but both were far more enjoyable than the competition.

>>90762661
Hey it's early morning let the boy get his (You)s

>>90762485
>over acting
I would be fine with any kind of acting.

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>>90762699
I've got some bad news for you about the acting in Wonder Woman.

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>>90757786

ok

>>90762701
>Of course it was more popular
Glad you admit you were wrong, it's a brave thing to do

>>90762713
Is this the new DCEU meme?

> "At least our actors act"

The least substantiatable claim one could possible make in comparing to cape films.

>>90762725
Unfortunately Strange had the better audience score so your claim that that Skwad was better liked is moot. Audiences liked Strange, Hot Topic scene girls like Skwad.

>>90762735
If WW flops I'm terrified what excuse they will come up with

>>90762746
The worse every DCEU movie does the deeper we go down this rabbit hole of denial. I'm not sure /co/ will survive if Justice Leage bombs.

>>90762742
>Hot Topic scene girls like Skwad
There must be a ton of those girls to make SS crush Dr Strange so bad

So it looks like Logan is going to brake 600mil (Which a bunch of people here assured me wouldn't happen) And Deadpool 2 is guaranteed to make bank next year. With these small budgets and big returns do you guys think Marvel will ever get back the Mutants?

>>90762735
>actors who actually act
That does seem important.

>>90762770
745m to 677m isn't exactly crushing. The fact that Skwad only beat strange by this small of a margin should be embarrassing enough.

>>90762775
Yet it's a claim you can't validate, it's just something a person says when they're talking out their ass.

>>90762762
I think it's going to be trash and make less than BvS but I don't think it's possible for it to bomb. The amount of PR disaster that would take is going above and beyond what is possible.

>>90762771
Depends on how long fox can keep milking Deadpool since they just lost Jackman.

>>90762791
>745m to 677m isn't exactly crushing. The fact that Skwad only beat strange by this small of a margin should be embarrassing enough.
It's embarrasing though, 75 millions more without China is embarrasing as fuck.

>>90762791
>it's just something a person says when they're talking out their ass.
Are you projecting now? You are well aware you're not an expert either right?

>>90762771
>So it looks like Logan is going to brake 600mil
How? Also why are bring this to a suicide squad thread?
you are just wanting (you)s aren't you?

>>90762812
Not really when you consider that Strange was up against Harry Potter and Skwad had no competition. Even then one movie was banking on the popularity of Joker and Harley Quinn while the other was introducing an unknown character in the least conventional cape flick seen to date.

>>90762814
Which makes bringing it up in any argument at all the more moot a point.

Do you guys remember when /co/ was surethat BvS had killed the franchise and Suicide Squad was bombing so hard that WB may have to declare bankruptcy? Some guy's father worked at nintendo and told us that the presales were so low that people were getting fired even before the release.

Haha good times

>>90762833
Yeah, instead the movie was still terrible and made money, which is so much better than actually having a good movie.

>>90762830
>How?

It's made 450 in less than 3 weeks

>>90762833
Wonder Woman is flopping though h-hehe, this time we'll be right. 4th time is the charm

> DCEU fans are now reduced to bragging about other people liking their movies even when they themselves don't.

Wow, this is a whole new level of cuckoldry.

>>90762867
It'll make it's money back and then some probably , but I don't expect it do come anywhere near it's predecessors.

>>90762833

/co/ is never right. We're anti-/pol

And now the DCEU apologist are straw-manning. This discussion is in free fall, they're in full "lol I troll u" defense mode now.

>>90762877

It doesn't have to. It's budget is minuscule. It's a female action movie. The only ones to make real money are those shitty hunger game films

>>90762899
> It's budget is minuscule.

Unfortunately it shows.

>>90762862
but it's dropping off pretty strong, and other films are coming out in the next two weeks to challenge sales. Unless I'm missing something I feel it will climb to about 520 and stop.

>>90762891
>DCEU is such a failure, I didn't like it so it's tanking
>No it's not, here are the proofs
>well I've never said what I just said, you're just strawmanning and this is sad
t. every DCEU thread for three years now

>>90762867
Meanwhile the last 6 or 7 MCU films were for sure going to be the ones that killed the franchise forever.

>>90762919
> Does even more strawmanning

Okay.

>>90757786

So WB made this cover to fuck with people right? Because judging by this thread it's working

I'll laugh so hard if Thor 3 beats Justice League.

>>90762935

/co/ is never right

>>90762943
You want to talk about shitstorms.

>>90762947
Well /co/ was right about BvS and Skwad being trainwrecks.

>>90762947
Most of /co/ was saying BvS was going to be a travesty and they were wrong it was worse

DC Fans, they don't like their movies, they just want you to think other people do.

>>90762943

It wont. JL comes out two weeks after Thor 3 and then doesn't have any competition for a month until Star Wars comes out

>>90762992
Still might if it does bad enough, though anything could happen really.

>>90762899

>what is LUCY

Also, do you count the last two SW movies as female driven or was it Poe or Kylo that were the actual stars?

>>90762992
I'd laugh if Marvel pushed the release date of Thor 3 back two weeks.

>>90763007

I just don't see it happening man. The shitshow would be a sight for sure but very unlikely

>>90763018

That would be a smart idea. Looking at it now Octoiber is a dead month

>>90763015

Did Lucy even do 500mil? You have me on Star Wars I suppose but I feel like they could have had shit on a stick as the lead and still raked it in

>>90762992
You forget there is also a Pixar film a week after it

>>90763020
It'll be interesting for sure.

>>90763043

I didn't forget. It's the first I'm hearing of it.

>>90763018
Disney has no reason to for the last two years they have made more on their film division than the company has in five. The money they have earned they will likely play chicken just for the luz.

>>90763058
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=zNCz4mQzfEI

>MoS will flop, Superman is not relevant anymore and Watchmen flopped
>[two months later] Well it didn't flop but that's because Superman is more relevant than ever
>BvS will flop, they casted a 50 year old guy to play Batman and everybody hated Cavill's MoS
>[two months later] Well it didn't flop but it underperformed because it was Batman and Superman, and they are more relevant than ever
>Suicide Squad will flop because normies don't know Harley, the Joker looks like shit and BvS has destroyed this franchise, everybody hates shit now
>[two months later] Well it didn't flop and it was one of the biggest hits of the year, but it doesn't matter because huh well, MOM'S GONNA FREAK
>Wonder Woman is going to flop so hard, Gadot can't act and Suicide Squad killed this franchise for good
Gee I sure wonder what will happen next!

>>90763074
Depends on what you consider a flop, the movies certainly weren't good and I think that's what matters more to fans than actual ticket sales.

>>90763018
They won't do it just like they didn't pushed Dr Strange back to compete with SS. They are smarter than their fans

>>90763073

Huh. I think this will do great with critics (And be really good) but I'm sensing an under performance coming here

>>90757786
I thought Suicide Squad was a turd, but that cover is fucking genius.

>>90759918
That's as many billions as you don't have Oscars

>all those faggots who think awards matter

I fucking hate /pol/ shit, but when I say awards are just jewish rigged circlejerking to brainwash people, I can't stand people who hide behind academy awards and such when they can't defend their shit kinos

truly sickening, bandwagoning is a plague and people making this kind of fallacy make me really fucking mad

>>90759918
An oscar is worth more than that

>>90761030
Why aren't there more sweet sandwich covers?

>>90757786
>some assmad marvel fanboy made this cover
Jesus christ, there is no recovery from this. This meaningless oscar will haunt them for life

>>90762981
So fucking true.

>>90764155
I'm laughing my ass off desu.
Skwad is still popular as fuck, too. Leto posted something yesterday about it and fanboys/fangirls went absolutely mental.

>>90762846
>Yeah, instead the movie was still terrible and made money, which is so much better than actually having a good movie.
>good but forgettable
vs
>Bad but memorable

The latter at least get a chance at a sequel.

>>90761511
that thing was shit
how dare they

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imagine liking the cape movies so bad you have to be anonymous to say you like it

>>90766589
Love how Robbie gives up on the accent almost immediately.

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>>90764123
that can be easily fixed

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>Oscars
>meaning anything

>>90763074
> batman and superman known to all for over 40 years
> Movie cant even break 1 billion

its almost as if nobody wanted to pay to see the movie

>>90768356
At least the songs and animations were good, Suicide Squad is a complete shit ripoff.

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>this fucking thread

>>90757786
This cover is perfect

Don't feel bad, the reason the MCU never wins is because it's all bland and generic, basically rehashes of the same plots and characters with quips every few seconds to make it palatable. Transformers and Fast&Furious will never win an oscar either, and they also make a lot of money, no shame in that!

>>90768557
> SS needs to sell itself as a batman/joker movie in order to draw in fans instead of standing on its own two feet like almost every other Marvel character
> not rehashed an generic

call me when a DC movie can stand on its own two feet senpai

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>>90768557
Never wins Best Makeup?
It's because they don't use Makeup.
Unless you count Vision, I suppose, but he's just a few plastic prosthetics glued on.

Hardly anyone uses exotic makeup anymore. Which is why they had to get a third nominee from Poland. Now you can win the category with white facepaint or a Margaret Thatcher wig.

Where are the Snyderverse Best Visual Effects nominations? Not awards, just simple nominations.

BVE is a competitive field of nominees, they have to pick and choose to the point that they expanded it to 5 films. Strange lost in a field of 5 impressive movies, 3 of which were Disney.

>>90757786
>BvS had Razzie
>Suicide Squad got an Oscar
Fuck Hollywood

>>90768738
Agreed. There should have been enough Razzies for both of them.

>>90768699
>nominations.
Holy shit this is sad

>>90762540
Late reply but this goes double for Batfleck lately, given how hard all of his projects have bombed lately.

>>90768887
The Accountat did really well though, and he's settled for life. That's why the fake news of him leaving the Batman were believable, because he could if he wanted to. otoh Evans would be on food stamps without the MCU

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>>90762142
>That moment when a great dark superhero film is made and it's not even by DC.

I wonder if that must hurt the Extreme DC Fanboy's narrative .

>>90760448
I understood that reference.

The category seems like it should be optional from year to year, what movies actually try to have good makeup design? Half the characters just look like drug cartel members, tattoo'd fireperson, green haired pimp, a slut, and various others wearing nothing special. I'm rather curious if the award is almost based solely on Croc. Since enchantress is more a cg character, her brother is seemingly enitrely cg, and tattoo'd firedude also turns into a cg character, oh and the zombie things I guess..

>>90768429
>ripoff.
of?

>>90762775
>>90762735
>>90762713
>"At least our actors act"

We are referring to Henry Cavill's shitty performance, right?

>>90768687
Ah yes, all five of those batman/joker minuets

>>90757786
that's fucking funny

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NONONO we can't let this shit fly, how do we stop suicide squad from being released bros?

>>90757786
test

>>90757786
>KNEEL BEFORE KINO!
>not
>KNEEL BEFORE SKWAD!
ONE JOB!

>>90757786
I love how these kind of shit are always about who made the most money and stuff, it's like reading the lyrics of a trap song minus the drugs. Face it, both companies suck dick, especially Marvel but DC it's a piece of shit too so please, stop this, it's not interesting in any way.

>>90761136
Yeah I agree with you but even that level of accuracy it's not acceptable, it's not the worst movie but it's not great either. Oh and by the way, the SS comics are so fucking boring and meh.

>>90757786
>the award is more important than the name and entire main cast

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>>90760494
That'll happen when they release all the cut footage of Joker in Suicide Squad and introduce it as a subplot for an upcoming Crisis on A whole shit ton of Amalgam Earths narrated by original flavor Moot
>pic related in the final scene exposition

>>90760463
oh god that forehead

>>90760440
When will Image comics rise from the crack in the Earth to usher Lord Sauron's new reign then Mr. Smartass anon?

>>90757786
If this is a real cover then it is fucking hilarious and I hope it is hamming it up because they're aware how people thought this was a bad movie.

>>90769283
dont even try to deny the joker was the most advertised character of that movie
he was front center on all posters on promotional trailers

>>90763074
>flop=/=underpreform
Superman vs Batman is probably the most famous match up in fictional history, the movie could have cleared one billion easily if it was good, thats the meaning of underpreforming, how much potential money was lost