Amazing Spider-Man #25 spoilers

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God, when will Slott's fanfic end? Seriously?

>>90684217
So he's the mystery villain of the secret empire variant covers.

Sentry btfo

Will he kill the Squid to lay claim to the title of supreme 8-limbed villain?

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>>90684217

>>90684217
Nice.

Based doc oct.

>>90684217

I kind of like that design.

>>90684217
>Superior Octopus

What the fuck kinda name is that?

>>90684217
But why?

This is like when Toomes stole Peter's parent doppelgangers' life forces to become young. Nobody fucking cares about the villain looking young and handsome. They're iconic because they're distinct.

Is Oct old or young in this run? I haven't kept up with a lot of Spidey material since he took over Peter's body.

Remember that time we made all of Spider-Man's villains buff young men and supermodel women and nobody liked it?

Let's do that again.

>>90684217
How can he be the Superior Octopus if he's the only one that's been Doctor Octopus?

>>90684507
He's channeling his inner mega Man X

>>90684555
Ock came back as a clone and now the clone is in a younger body.

>>90684596
Do Lady Octopus, Octo Spidey and that-time-Peter's-mind-was-in-Otto's-body count?

>>90684596
you can always be better - even better than yourself

>Marvel editorial forces Peter v Norman as a publicity stunt.
>Slott STILL makes it about Otto.

kek

>>90684569
Yeah, yeah I do.
Fuck I'm old.

>>90684284
>God, when will Slott's fanfic end? Seriously?
When, and ONLY when, the sales drop low enough. It's literally the only thing Jewmutter cares about.

The endless cycle of killing/ressurecting characters in continuing the big two shit-treadmill is holding steady, nice.

When will you all stop reading this garbage?

>>90684681

Honestly, though I hated how Peter died trapped in Ock's failing body, I really enjoyed reading Superior Spider-Man.

Bringing Peter back was so soon was definitely forced/rushed. Would have honestly liked to have continued reading more Spock.

>>90684722
Who cares you fucking faggot.

>>90684217
I like the costume, its not going to last

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>>90684217
Captain Hydra and Superior Spiderman on the same team? Sign me up for the Secret Empire Wild Ride

>>90684682
>He-Man Action Figure Adrian
>SWOLE Max
>Even Quentin had some mighty fine biceps despite always being more of an acrobat.

Oh 90's comics...

Superior to who? Himself? Christ, this cycle of death and rebirth is never going to end. He should call himself Doctor Phoenix now. Why can't Slott just fuck off?

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>>90684217
Based doc

>>90684722
Don't look at me. Spider-verse made me stop buying ASM. And I'd been reading since Back in Black.

>>90684217
ASM is tying into Secret Empire isn't it

>>90684722
I haven't bought ASM in over a decade, and the last Spider-Things I did buy were pre-Space Flash Venom and Superior Foes.

What more can I do?

>>90684844
Would be a first for Slott to actually have tie ins to an event.

>>90684844
Spidey's one of the main people on the cover

>>90684879
Anon they do that for like half the events, remember AvX?

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>>90684739
>Bringing Peter back so soon was definitely forced/rushed

Nigger what? The premise had been stretched to its fucking threads by the time Peter came back

>>90684320
Thank fucking god it's not Sentry, the character is at it's worst when it's a throw away enemy/plot device.

>>90684217
SCANBRO I SUMMON THEE!
Post the whole issue!

>>90685030
If it was Sentry you know it'd have been the Nth time he just watches the whole thing happen and goes "can't do anything. mind problems. sorry"

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>>90684217
Does he look like peter under the mask or ock or someone else?

>>90684320
This doesn't disprove Sentry at all, we still don't know who "Bob" of the Masters of Evil is. Though I personally don't think it's Sentry.

>>90684217
Won't this make it harder for Slott to identify with Otto? They're both still egotistical assholes, but now only one of them is fat.

>>90684844
>>90684862
>>90684879
My guess is Spencer wanted to use SpOck in it once he found out how Clone Conspiracy was going to end, or possibly before that since events are supposedly planned years in advance. There wouldn't be a reason for him to show up in Empire and be on a page with Hydra if he didn't have some prominent role.

>>90685076
I'd imagine he'd look like Pete. Ben was making the clone body for himself.

>>90685076
The body was intended to be for Ben, so supposedly he should look like Peter.

>>90684217
So Steve Rogers' inner circle will be Zemo, Madame Hydra, Selvig and Otto?

>>90684217
Oh shit! Im shocked by how ok I am with this. Maybe because Im such a sucker for that costume

>>90685228
I also heard Magneto is a Nazi now too

>>90684217
Who posted this? Was it scanbro? Do we have spoilers of the rest of the issue?

>>90684217

But he's not a nazi!!!

>>90685168
you care about this way too much

>>90685129
Who do you think it is, anon? It's hard for me to think of anyone other than Sentry or Mordo

>>90684217
I like it and I like Captain Hydra

>>90684217
I was wondering who would be on that classified Secret Empire Villains of Hydra variant

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>>90685406

Sure looks like him.

>>90685030
There's still the question of who the mystery ex-Pleasant Hill inmate is from the latest Captain Keikaku. Some of the wording makes me think it could be Sentry but it's probably not.

>>90684217
THE DIE IS CAST

>>90685129
It's probably going to be Baron Mordo and they're just going to ignore his appearance in Aaron's Strange.

>>90685268
That's just a variant cover. 1/10 got me to (You) you.

>>90685195
>>90685221

How many people who look like Peter do we have running around now.

>>90685295
Bob from Hydra. Deadpool's pal.

>>90685691
Peter, Kaine, "Ben" and maybe Otto.

>>90685479
The bracelets still look more like Ben's, though.

>>90685295
>>90685591
I personally don't think it's Sentry because this is Nick Spencer we're talking about. Knowing him, it'll probably turn out to be some obscure character created or used extensively by Mark Gruenwald.

>>90685742
No, it doesn't, Ben's webshooters end at the wrists. Both SUPERIOR SUPERIOR Otto and the cover's silhouette has the little pads when it gets to the hand proper.

i wanted bob back,hell then i could believe hydra cap could have a chance fighting all the avengers. also bob could be redemed and fuck off to space to never be heard from again.

this is a clone of pete with doc oct's mind in it right?

So that means we have 3 Peter doppelgangers?
Ben Reilly
Kaine
Superior Octopus

>>90684569
Curious, does anyone have pics of this?

>>90685853
More or less.

>>90685129
Its Baron Mordo

>>90685853
>clone of Peter
>with Otto's mind in it

I can see why Peter hates clones. This shit makes my head spin just thinking about it

>>90684217
WHERE IS THE MIDGET

>>90684644
Doctor Octopus 2099 should be running around 2017 as well

He's Atlantean

>>90684644
>Lady Octopus
"-I- am THE SUPERIOR OCTOPUS, Carolyn. DEAL WITH IT

Also I like shortstacks. Fuck you."

>>90685295
>>90685668
>>90685945
How hard do you rage if they synergize him and BLACK him?

>>90686310
They didn't black Electro, they turned him into a woman

Baroness Mordo would be hot

>>90686220
>Gets with a giantess
>Then gets with a midget

Does Otto have a problem with normal sized women?

>>90686464
I think he has a problem with normal anything

>>90685668
>they're just going to ignore his appearance in Aaron's Strange.
I highly doubt they would do that, especially since odds are this has been planned for a while.

>>90684217
THE DIE IS CAST, YET AGAIN!

>>90686464
Aunt may is pretty average sized.

>>90686482
Maybe what he really needs is a woman who likes Urotskidoji.

>>90686549
Also old enough to be his mom. And has serious manface.
Dude's weird.

>>90684217
Hmmm.... needs more green.

>>90684284
When Slott dies

heh Rich saw this

>>90684217
Why isn't he fat?

>>90685129
bob like Deadpool bob?

>>90684600
Kek, what power would X get from him? You know, once he was done bitching and moping.

>>90687141
Its the perfect proto clone

>superior cap
>superior spock
What is tony wakes from his coma inverted in this and joins with otto and steve?

>>90687334
YOU GOT
RAPE TENTACLE

>>90684217
How much do you wanna bet he's the one that designed the Helicarriers with tentacles on them?

>>90684284
he was my favorite villain in the past. now i hate this character...thanks Slott.

>>90687885
The sad thing is that Slott probably thinks he's writing the ultimate love letter to Otto.

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>>90684217
I thought Dr. Octopus was an over the hill, chubby guy with a bad hair cut.

>>90687935
He's in a cloned body of Peter Parker now.

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>>90686127
Hey, somebody else remembers that 2099 exists!

>>90684569
my favorite was Vulture, with flowing long hair.

>>90684217
THE DIE IS CAST

Don't mind his return so much, or his new look, but wish he'd gotten over the whole 'Superior' obsession and just gone by Doctor Octopus again.

A fight between him and Peter sounds like it could be quite cool if well done, given how he's literally him plus tentacles. Slott would probably mangle it, though.

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>>90687503
we are a step closer to the worst team possible
Who will betray who first

>>90688428
Ock and Tony will fight first. Steve will keep his Hydra power level hidden from them

>>90684217
FINALLY
Gonna go reread Superior

My dream situation: Slott gives up Amazing to someone else, and gets a solo ongoing titled Superior, starring this guy.

>>90685717
We need a beat em up game with all 4 of them now

>>90688504
Slott would probably give up Silver Surfer instead so that he could do both ASM and SSM. Or he'd do all three.

>>90685691
Otto, Peter, Kaine, Ben looks like Peter got Deadpooled, Ultimate Peter is alive supposedly, though we don't know which universe he's in.

>>90687141
>>90687470
>>90687935
>>90687983
It'll be funny if through a terrible diet and an inability to keep fit that Otto's new Peter body becomes fat and gross.

Could bring some comedic scenes to the comics too. Peter constantly having to see his body all bloated and out of shape.

Or is that too out of character for Marvel?

>>90688902
>Behold Parker, the beauty of Superior body mass!

>>90688902
while he had peters body he did eat a lot of sweets and carbs even peter had to say he had to hit the gym after oct fucked around
hell with the new arms he'll probably get even lazier

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>>90688172
Still not as bad as pic related from the USM cartoon. What were they thinking?

>>90688644
>Ultimate Peter is alive supposedly
Gonna need a fucking source on that, nigger.

>>90689076
That's what I'm saying, that without the need to keep up the gag that he was really Peter Parker in SSM he'll just grind this new body to shit living the way he used to.

If not Slott then hopefully the new writer does this. It would really drive home the point that Otto isn't Superior even though it seems to be the only thing he says about himself anymore.

>>90684217
>to be continued in amazing spider-man #29 secret empire!
Wait, I thought Norman was next? Is the Goblin arc really short or something?

Part of me thinks Slott has a hard on for Otto because he's literally not allowed to do anything that wouldn't leave Peter Parker in stasis when the dust settles. So he fucks around with another character instead because why not?

The other part of says it's about time for him to give up ASM.

>>90689278
Issue 25 where this is from. There's plenty of time for Osborn and crew to wrap up in 4 issues.

>>90684602
I believe he's in a clone body of Peter.

>>90689278
>yfw Osborn isn't the one to ruin Parker Industries, Hydra is

>>90689318
Just seems a bit short for what is suppose to be the big epic battle between Peter and Norman that supposedly destroys Parker Ind.

>>90689378
That would be quite a twist.
>Steve planned it all along

>>90684217
Fucking aces, this looks pretty goddamn good.

>>90684217
I don't even care anymore, nothing Slott does surprises me and I've accepted that the main Spidey book likely won't ever be even slightly good again until he's totally away from the character.

>>90684217
WHEN
DOES
HE
GET
ANNA-MARIE
BACK

>>90684217
Didn't this sort of happen in the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon?

>>90685891
Technically Kaine has never pretended nor wanted to be Peter.

Except when

1) Peter asked him to put on the Spider-man suit to pretend Peter Parker was saved by Spider-man in Spider-Island and that way preserve Peter's secret identity;

2) to save Peter by taking his place in the human sacrifice ritual of Grim Hunt.

>>90685891
and don't forget all the peter clones jackel is gonna make

If this wasn't the main Spider-Man book I would've dropped it months ago.

Honestly? I'm not surprised. I was suspecting this because of the figure on the cover of "Secret Empire", hidden as "Top Secret". And the clue was obvious at the end of "The Clone Saga".

One interesting thing: With this design, I'm pretty sure many people will recognize the arrogance of the previously known as "Superior Spider-Man" and realize that it was Octopus who hurt them, not Spider-Man. So, to take this Otto down, Spider-Man will surprisingly receive the help from all the victims of "Superior Spider-Man" (including Black Cat) who look for revenge.

What worries me the most is if this Proto-Clone actually has Peter's face or any other one. I mean, since the "Jackal" offered Anna Maria to use it, then maybe it's not necessarily Peter's face.

>>90685591
I'm pretty sure, and before I continue I'm going to admit I haven't been keeping up with what's going on with Sentry, but the last time he was seen he was resurrected as a Horseman of Apocalypse alongside Banshee, Grim Reaper, and someone else and then he fucked off to space, no?

>>90687655
nice dubs

>>90691211
You are correct, Death Seed Sentry is the character's most recent showing. However, its been so long that I wouldn't be surprised if they just don't give a fuck about that anymore.

>>90686464
Wait, you mean Knockout for the giantess right? Hardlight hologram amazon muscle girl controlled by VR helmed fat girl? Thats two, two, fetish bodies for the price of one

And to the rest of your question, Otto is repeatedly played up as the guy who considers the appearance of his romances as a secondary or tertiary concern.

>>90690724
So you'll put up with stupid, repetitive shit as long as it's in ASM?

>>90684217
im not real;ly upset about it. I really wanted to see more Superior Spidey, and most probably this will be it.
Also, Marvel wants to go back to roots with Peter Parker, and usually everyone thinks its gonna be him losing his company.
What if actually one of the clones (or Norman) steals it from him?

Isn't Kane suppose to be hunting him down?

>>90689286
I feel like the only reason he's still on ASM is to stop Bendis getting his hands on it.

>>90692180
No, he's hunting Ben.

>>90684644
I still say Lady Stilt-Man is the BEST Distaff counterpart ever!

>>90684217
YES
ES
S

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>>90687330
I was immediately thinking how amazing it would be if Bob the Hydra Agent turned out to be one of the greatest masterminds of Marvel 616 at the end of this arc.

>TFW Ewing swoops in and steals Ock for an Usa avengers and aim lefrovers vs Maker and his guys vs. Hydra storyline

>>90692212
>Kaine hunting Ben who is hunting Ock who is hunting peter

>>90691617
>Ock is the opposite of /r9k/
Never would've guessed

>>90684860
Check out spider-man and the x-men it's a fun 6 issue romp that should've kept going but secret wars happened and people forgot about it

>>90691211
What happened with Grim Reaper that he became all normal again before being killed in Vision?

>>90684722
Tell that to Pofessor X, Wolverine and Cyclops

>>90692212
Isn't Ben dead?

>>90685051
>Logan.jpg

>>90686549
young old fat midget
Oct loves them all

>>90688016
I really like Electro 2099

>>90693696
He was the new Jackal. Amazing Spider-Man #24 reveals that he survived post CC

>>90693722
He still insane?

>>90693426
Secret Wars.

As in, the Apocalypse Twins thing could have occurred differently

>>90684844
Says right there in the picture that starting at ASM 29 it is

>>90693751
Seems like it.

>>90693426
Maybe whatever magic that makes him immortal countered it? Maybe it just sort of wore off like it did with Daken and Gambit?

>>90693767
No. Secret Wars only changed events shortly before the Final Incursion and nothing else. Other than inserting Miles Morales that is. 616's history is otherwise unaltered.

>>90692181

yea seriously. suppose Marvel grants /co/ its wish and boots Slott the fuck off ASM. honestly, who would we want in the current Marvel "talent" pool to take over?

i'm kind of drawing a blank here.

>>90684217
I actually like this because i feel like it folds together neatly with the Secret Empire event, like he's only joining HYDRA because of his semi-reformed ideals so he's joining a semi-reformed organization which still enables him to effectively be a mustache-twirling villain. Hope that he finally gets a status quo after this though, like >>90684284 said. He goes through so many god damn twists and turns you'd think he were an A-list hero or something. Use somebody else ffs

>>90691730
>So you'll put up with stupid, repetitive shit as long as it's in ASM?
Why do you think Slott has survived on ASM so long? Spiderfags only care for the main book (and Miles shockingly) because it's the MAIN book thus important and muh collection. No one cares about side books. And which is why Zdarsky's book will be cancelled.

>>90690174
Never, at this rate. He finds her and ask to be with her now that he has a younger body again. But then he's done some fucked-up Hydra stuff so Anna Marie rejects him, driving him insane(r).

>>90693895
pretty standard to use shitty brainwashing tech on horseman. can't do better than poppa apocalypse can we/

>>90694083
Spiderfag reporting in, Spidey has been my all time favorite hero l since as long as I can remember, I am not pulling Bendis' Miles book or Slott's Peter book.

I am however pulling Renew Your Vows and Spider-Man and Deadpool.

>>90693941
Me

>>90693941
Kelly, Conway, or Thompson, each of them had taken the train wrecks that Slott and Bendis created and made enjoyable comics out of them.

>>90694481
>Kelly
yeah, which comic?

>>90684217
Seriously...why are you guys bitching? This is a fucking gift.

Otto has got his own body now. He's free to pursue his own agendas (fucking midgets).

THIS is Slott's eventual exit. He'll quit Spider-Man to write an Otto ongoing.

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>>90694599
>Which Comic?
Spider-Man and Deadpool, in the issues he writes he's been doing a damn good job with both Wade's and Peter's stories. Most readers are turned off by the fact that it also has Deadpool in it, but I've been surprised by how not annoying Kelly writes him.

>>90694749
hey didn't he die with the ultimate universe?

>>90684596
He's skinny now

What's this stuff about Slott talking shit about Peter+MJ marriage fans on CBR? screenshots or link?

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>>90694832
He made a few deals, and Franklin and Reed were kind enough to bring him back when they rebuilt 616

>>90694958
Based Franklin, he knows what I like

>>90694749
Seeing as Kelly wrote one of the best regarded pre-meme deadpool runs I don't know why his grasp of the character would be surprising

>>90694749
I'm not turned off by the fact it has Deadpool on it but to me the comic has been insufferable ever since Spidey and Deadpool got chummy. I'm liking the filler issues much better for zany fun because of that, because when Kelly is writing it feels like the only thing between these two getting a room is the fact I'm reading it.

Also GRIMDARK SPIDEY for the Nth time doesn't tickle my fancy at all whatsoever. Nor does the whole B-B-BUT MUH OMD hook. Marvel has bait-and-switched people over it ever since '09 and people keep falling for it.

>>90684217
yawn

>>90694916

http://community.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?92750-Thread-Drift-Will-One-More-Day-ever-be-reversed

he said in no uncertain terms that the marriage is never and will never come back. some posters continued to ponder what-ifs to keep the dream alive. Slott answered everyone of them (while patting himself on the back for RYV).

>>90695024
Once apon a time Bendis wrote good things too, writers can change over time, I just always keep my expectations with Deadpool super low.
>>90695045
The issue Penn wrote was pretty fun, I liked that quite a bit, and I can understand where you are coming from with the whole bbf stuff, but I cannot agree, I hated the way that Peter just treated Wade like shit all the time. Granted it's well earned, but seeing Peter just being outright hateful stuck me the wrong way. It pleases me to see them acting like pals, and halarious that it's not Spidey whose the annoying one. As for grimderp Spidey, again, I disagree, while I don't want a fucking raging hardcore spidey 24/7, the short little bits every now and again work well and I think we're lucky that it's Kelly whose writing a pissed off Peter

>>90695177
>You will not see the marriage restored in the core continuity ever.
>Still never happening. Ever. Ever. Ever.
>the marriage is NEVER being officially restored.
>IT AIN'T HAPPENING EVER.
God damn he's such a massive faggot. Why do Marvel continue to hate the idea of a married Peter so much? Especially after the reception of Superman and Lois.

Looks like I'll continue not giving a shit about Spider-man I guess.

>>90695311
My issue isn't with Peter treating Deadpool right now, but I'd say Kelly firmly crossed the line from "bromance" straight into "foreplay". It's just a chore to get through their inane 'counter-or-continue-the-joke' through all the pages.

And I personally never liked any version of grimdark Spider-Man at all, either from "end of the Copy-Parents" storyline, to Back in Black or before OMIT when he thought Harry's baby was killed. It's always temporary, and to me, it's always a chore.

Coupled with the issues I mentioned already I really just dropped the thing at this point.

>>90695462
Well I'm bumbed that you don't like the book anon, but that's okay, opinions and such, hopefully the spider brand ups it's quality for all our sakes.

>>90693941
Yost, Ewing, Duggan, Loveness, Spencer

>>90695436

they hated the marriage since it took place, i believe Slott on that.

why it took them 20 years to just do away with it when they ended up going with one of the most insulting and divisive stories for any comic book hero ever, who the hell knows.

some suit must have some concrete reason to believe that single Spidey will sell more and merchandise more than married Spidey.

>>90695799
That's exactly what he's saying, though I'm amused at both A) he needs to squash down every single thing (it's not about the possibility of it coming back or not, which I give no shits about, but rather this attitude of NO! YOU STOP THINKING THIS WAY! RIGHT NOW! going so far as trying to say people with too much free time daydreaming their status quo comes back as the same as Hollow Earth theorists) and B) he can't stop congratulating himself on getting RYV greenlit.

It's fascinating, really just like seeing two autistic kids screeching REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE at each other hoping the other side's head will explode eventually.

>>90688172
His actual outfit design during that era genuinely was good tho.

>>90684217
>issue 25 spoilers
>continued in issue 29
so this is the power of marvel

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>>90684217
>not going back to classic Doc Ock
SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTT

>>90696209

Slott is a piece of work but in this case, i can't imagine how frustrating it must be for him to say in the plainest words possible that this thing is never going to happen and then have to deal with the autismos that continue to believe it can happen and try and argue with him.

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>>90696638
We had classic Ock for a short time.

>>90689149
Did you just not hear of the second to last arc of Ultimate Spider-Man? Peter showed up at Miles place for his web shooters, knocked him out and took them only to team up with him when Osborn attacked, give Miles the keys to Spider-Man and then drive off with MJ into the sunset...just in time for the universe to end

>>90696704
That's exactly the point though: sure he has insider knowledge besides common sense to know that Marvel doing a fucking deal with the devil, literally, isn't getting undone anytime soon.

By the third reply where people just say "but it could happen" you'd just say "fuck it" and go back to work or do more productive things with your life.

Unless Marvel pays him to shitpost, which in this case makes him an American Hero.

>>90684217
>>90684284

>complain about series and characters resetting after 12 issues
>get a 150+ issue series
>beg for the reset

>>90695583
oo spencer. the edge

>>90697227

honestly though, i appreciate it because every further post he made to argue with the marriage truthers, he shed a bit more light on the situation.

it may have been autist vs autists but he at least tipped how Marvel works on the inside (which just confirms the, we will do this and you will like it attitude).

>>90697673
You just gotta wonder what sort of thought process "dawned" on people to go with OMD of all things.

Peter and MJ could have a falling out and divorce, and in this day and age where every last plot point gets glanced over with a "it didn't work" and perpetual manchildren we live in where that is ever more plentiful, they think "no, for the grounded character, we definitely should make Mephisto do it, like how even a panicked bullpen during bankruptcy managed to say 'no, that's stupid.".

>>90697480
Yeah, it's almost like people want an ongoing title that isn't intentionally inflammatory dog shit written by a hack. I know, I was shocked too.

>>90697771

that's what really angers me most about OMD. i do prefer marriage status quo but i'm not an autismo nerdbot who NEEDS it.

what angers me most is that this is one of the most impactful stories told in ASM's history...a major retcon of 20 years of continuity. and it is the most garbage story anyone has had the mispleasure of reading.

think about it, even those who prefer single status can't say a good fucking thing about the story. and then on the other end, we have niggas raging just as hard 10 years after the fact as when it first happened. for such an important story, it was told with such callous disregard for the character himself.

>>90698026
The problem is it didn't just shit on the character, it shat on basically the Marvel universe at large.

You have that wonderfully illustrated pointless spreadpage where Peter goes to the entire world and "not a single person" says they can heal an ailing old woman, ranging from Dr. Doom to the X-Men having more than one single healer in their ranks and we being shown Peter being in direct contact with them.

Marriage enthusiasts just might as well have said "guys, you're making this too easy".

>>90684217
This is bad fanfic. Hell, Slott's entire run is bad fanfic.

>>90684569
I loved it

>>90684569
God I remember that. I do not miss it.

>>90695177

while his candidness about this issue is certainly admirable, despite his ridiculous need to argue and congratulate himself, i have to bet some higher ups at Marvel are not happy with this exchange.

because Slott has basically confirmed (if you take him at his word) that no love interest, MJ or not, will ever have a permanent place in ASM continuity. it will always be a carousel. so why the fuck would we even care about it at this point?

>>90698301
>Spider-Man's love life will always be a carrousel

Just like... pretty much every Big Two hero?

>>90695311
Yeah I don't like Peter being hateful towards Wade but I agree with >>90695045 Wade got annoying when Peter decided to be friends with him and I guess Kelly is catering hardcore to Spideypool fans. The homoerotism feels forced and it wasn't as fun as how Nicieza does it when he wrote Deadpool in C&D.

Also the whole Wade fanboys over him and wants to be like him romance thing that Kelly is pushing now especially since in his original run Wade HATED being compared to him.

If anything I see Wade and Peter having a relationship like how Peter has with Wolverine except Wade quips and jokes around and they both prank each other, maybr a little gay here and there from Wade's side but it wouldn't impede him from shit talking Peter.

>>90698451
Superman's got a stable, loving family and has had the same love interest for decades. And there's probably a ton of B-C list superheroes that have got stable love lives. Buddy Baker and Pre-edge Ralph Dibny come to mind.

>>90697771
Quesada didn't want Peter to get divorced because it aged him so they made him someone who makes deals with the devil.

The other option was to make Peter a widow amd they tried that but it didn't take.

>>90695583
>>Ewing
No thank you.
And doesn't he hate A listers? There's no Marvel hero more A list than Spider-Man.

>>90698451

yea but the difference is, before that wasn't the case. they've now confirmed that it IS the case.

>>90684509
For the self-insert fantasy to be complete, Slott has to turn his surrogate into a young, virile man

>>90698654
I've heard the excuse, but it's mindboggingly silly. Divorces are so much more plentiful now it's not even funny, and the whole 'more manchild-y' Peter approach would be the same, Mephisto or not.

>>90698649
>there's probably a ton of B-C list superheroes that have got stable love lives
Yeah, that's what allows them to have stable love lives - they're not A-listers.

>>90685239
>>90688504
>Gonna go reread Superior
>>90689549
>>90692114
>I really wanted to see more Superior Spidey
Call me edgy if you want, but I sincerely hope bad things happen to your bloodline. We need less people like you in this world.

>>90694615
>THIS is Slott's eventual exit. He'll quit Spider-Man
You have to be brain dead in order to genuinely believe this. Why would Slott quit writing Spider-Man at this point, when he can claim dominion over the brand for the rest of his life?

>>90684284
>when sales plummet
>when Slott dies
>when Bendis dies and Slott firmly gets 2-3 years worth of issues after his death

Slott and Bendis both choose Spider man as their record to set/break. So basically Bendis will be on Miles and Slott will be on Peter until sales go into the negatives or one/both of them die.

>>90698788
HOWARD MACKIE set a record himself for being the sole writer of two flagship titles in his time.

So with any luck they will follow that level of infamy later on

>>90698738
What's the longest a single writer has been on an individual title? He's done his big stories, after bringing together every spiderman in the multiverse, killing half of our childhood characters for shock value, and mancillating the tombs of gwen Stacy and others...what's left for Slott? He's clearly run out of juice.

>>90685195
>>90685221
>>90685853
>>90687983
>>90689330
Guys there's no confirmation that's a Peter clone whatsoever. Reilly offered Anna Maria the proto clone, so it should morph into whatever the user wants. And Ock did say Peter's physical brain made him intellectually inferior so he probably just picked a ripped young body of himself.

>>90698946

i haven't read ASM in a while and picked it up for CC (bad idea)...who has he killed exactly? Electro?

>>90698966
But here's the thing: The majority of Otto's current motivation centers around Anna, who rejected him in his old body. It's pretty easy to see him trying to go back to a Peter body in some creepy attempt to get her back.

>>90699054
top of my head

Dr. Kafka
Electro
one Enforcer, I think Montana
Prowler
Silver Sable

probably more I'm missing

>>90699054
>Electro
>Marla Jameson
>The Daily Bugle
>Silver Sable(but not really I think)
>Alistar Smythe?
all I can think of

>>90699054
A ton of Spider men from old cartoons as a mean of cheaply raising the stakes.

>>90699126
Black Cat's character.

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>>90684217
Do want.

>>90684509
Actually they fucking do.

IIRC they made Vulture super young because at the time, the braintrust at Marvel hated Vulture's guts and after failing to replace Vulture outright with a gang of young men with the name/costumes in Web of Spider-Man, then giving him terminal cancer to kill him off only to have the story where he finds out he's dying to get critical acclaim from people who hated Vulture, they said fuck it and made him a pretty boy.

Fuck, one of the chief reasons why Sam Raimi QUIT making Spider-Man movies was due to the fact that Sony kept refusing to let him use Vulture, even though Raimi had John Malcovich ready to go and play the character. They forced him to use Venom instead of Vulture in the third film and refused to let him use Vulture period in the hypothetical fourth film unless he killed him off in the first act so that they could introduce a super sexy female vulture (played by Anne Hathaway) for the rest of the film.....

>>90684217
I actually liked Ocs transition to super heroism

Its shit like this that makes me not want to get into comics again.

>>90698966
But Otto loved Peter's body. He probably modeled this clone after Peter. However, this time without Peter's mind.

>>90699521
Otto could just be using Hydra for his own ends. After all, he wants to get back with Anna Maria. I doubt he'd do anything too villainous as long as he's still romantically after Anna.

>>90699613
Do you really think slott thinks that far ahead?

Can anyone explain to me how in the literal fuck Otto has any memories from his time in Peter's body when, even considering this new "clones keep their old memories" bullshit, his current form was cloned from a body that died before the events of SSM ever happened? Did Slott even attempt to explain this shit or am I just supposed to turn my brain off and giggle about the die being cast?

>>90699665
He planned Superior a hundred issues ahead

>>90699738
During Spiderverse he knew he was going to die so he made a back up of his consciousness

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>>90698513
Kelly I should note, scorched earth his rep with Spider-Man fans by not only participating in Brand New Day, but also cheerleading some of the really shitty elements, like Peter must always suffer and being against the Spider-Marriage in public.

The issues he wrote of Amazing Spider-Man were also widely reviled, in the Joe Casey writing Uncanny X-Men and it's god-awful to the point that fans turn on him sort of way.

His career never really recovered in terms of mainstream comics.

It's why his DP/SM book has been full of pandering (like bringing up OMD and bringing Mysterio back and shit). He's desperate to be loved after making all of the people, who for years wanted him to write Spidey, to love him again

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>>90684217
I'M EXCITED

>>90698659
Liking more obscure characters doesn't mean he dislikes popular ones.

>>90699795
#600 was Otto dying, remember?

>>90699738
Spider-Verse took place right before the Venom arc and in it, Otto discovered he was going to lose everything from Peter. So he backed up his brain from around #19/20 of Superior, before being sent back to issue #19/20 right after he got grabbed, so that the timeline would play out as it ultimately did.

>>90699450
You got a sauce on that dude?

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>>90699923
You know, Otto making a back up of his own mind takes some impact away from his arc in Spider Verse. I thought that him accepting his failure and then telling uncle ben to keep moving in spite of all hope seeming lost was a nice way to wrap up his story, even if by then he still didn't accept Peter as the superior spiderman.

>>90695024
> I don't know why his grasp of the character would be surprising
Have you seen the Ultimate Spider-Man episode with Deadpool in it? It was almost enough to lose faith.

>>90700006
No I believe you I just don't want to.

>>90696209
>>90695436
Is he REEEEEEing about it because he actually believes it won't happen or is it one of those fakeouts like how he claimed Roderick Kingsley was killed by Phil Urich?

>>90699842
>The issues he wrote of Amazing Spider-Man were also widely reviled

The fuck are you talking about Jesse, I kept seeing people praise his ASM issues. The only place I saw complaints was on Scans Daily when they were complaining about his depiction of Norah and Michelle.

>>90700090
>watching USM
Why would I ever do that?

>>90700270
It said Joe Kelly in the writing credits and it was an episode of Deadpool. So there was hope. Then the episode was out. So much for hope.

>>90688644
FUCKING THANK YOU BENDIS, I WILL FORGIVE HIM FOR ALL THE HORRIBLE SHIT HE'S DONE IF THIS HAPPENS... I DON'T EVEN CARE IF ULIT PETE RIDES AWAY INTO THE SUNSET AND GETS SOFT RETCONNED LIKE ALEX LUTHOR AND SUPERMAN 2 DID AT THE END OF CRISIS... I JUST WANT A HAPPY ENDING TO ULTIMATE PETER, HE DESERVES IT

>>90699795
>>90699894
Peter also put his brainwaves on Otto's helmet that he used to control every machine in New York.

>>90690416
I like Kaine. Best Parker.

>>90684217
I hope he gets his own series.

>>90684217
What I find the most interesting about this is that this is actually the first time Dan Slott has actually done a tie-in to a line-wide event in ASM.
I don't really count Original Sin because the tie-in only consisted of one scene with the Watcher's eye, after that it's all about Silk.

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>The Superior Octopus
Not with that outfit, honey.

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>>90704874
I just want this back.

>>90704741
>Original Sin

I still can't believe they didn't have spock being found out. It was the perfect event for it.

Love how you totally ripped this off Bleeding Cool. I checked the timestamps! 8-) https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/03/13/spoilers-big-reveal-marvels-amazing-spider-man-ties-secret-empire/

>>90698649
>Ralph Dibny
How's he doing now? Secret Six was fun.

>>90695436
>Why do Marvel continue to hate the idea of a married Peter so much?

The general idea is that they believe that Peter should be a "down-on-his-luck" superhero and shouldn't be married to a supermodel.

Well the first solution is: Don't make Mary Jane a supermodel. The ironic thing is she wasn't a supermodel during the 90's for a long time until the Byrne relaunch and then they used that as an excuse to "kill" her off.

The second part is that there's only so many Parker luck shit they can do before it gets obnoxious. If you actually read the Ditko stuff he was down on his luck a lot sure, but the stories moved forward. Suddenly Peter was no longer with Betty and he was in college. To keep cycling it like a Peanuts comic or Simpsons episode makes the comic and the character stagnant. Even Charles Schultz gave Charlie Brown a few wins in the last decade he worked on the strip, or de-emphasized the loser aspect compared to the 60's strips.

As I read a lot of the old Spider-Man comics I kind of realized that everyone saying "Spider-Man is the Charlie Brown of superheroes" is really taking the wrong approach with Spider-Man. It's a really shallow approach, like saying that "Spider-Man would've totally been a school shooter!" and misses a lot of things about the stories.

>>90695583
I love all them, though the one I'd be happy on the main book is Thompson since he keeps improving Slott's shitty ideas.

>>90695045
>Also GRIMDARK SPIDEY for the Nth time doesn't tickle my fancy at all whatsoever.

Yeah didn't we see this with Grim Hunt?

>>90706407
who gives a shit

>>90699126
>Silver Sable

She's going to be back in the upcoming arc.

>>90699990
That one particular anon usually doesn't source, but the part about Raimi wanting Vulture in Spider-Man 3 is true (the book with Spider-Man 3 production art showed early drawings that had Vulture in them), and Avi Arad is the one who wanted Raimi to put in Venom. And the part about Spider-Man 4 is also partly true (Anne Hathaway was to play Felicia Hardy who in this film would be the Vulture's daughter, and Vulture would die in the film).

>>90688902
once Slott is gone it has a chance of happening. Slott won't do it however where he has admitted he see's himself as Otto...

>>90695436
>Why do Marvel continue to hate the idea of a married Peter so much?
No one on the writing staff has a happy marriage

What's stopping Otto from just ruining Peter's life by revealing his identity to the world?

>>90699126
Dr Kafka is such an underutilized spidey character baka.

>>90707728
Same thing that stopped Eddie Brock, Norman Osborn, MacGargan, the Jackal and others from doing the same.

>>90708710
Which is..?

>>90699054
>>90699126
>>90699157
Wait what, he killed Electro?

How? Why?

>>90708754
A mixture of "I don't wanna lose the one thing I have over you", "only I'm allowed to defeat you", "where's the fun in that?" and "plot".

>>90684217

Does this mean he still has Peter's spider powers?

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>>90684217
He's now in the "perfect" clone body, right?
How big is his dick?

>>90710218
big enough for a midget

>>90684217
Who the fuck did not see this coming? Slott is so fucking predictable.

>>90687925
Yeah, by self inserting.

>>90684879
But Spidey never do much in events except be there.

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>>90691617
>Otto is repeatedly played up as the guy who considers the appearance of his romances as a secondary or tertiary concern.

Except for, you know, when that doesn't apply at all.

>>90710364
I saw Otto's return in the clone body coming, but not him joining Hydra. Slott usually stays clear of events.

>>90710585
Only thing more hilarious than that was when Otto suddenly always cared about little kids when before Slott fucking had him planning to cook the world and be "worse than Hitler".

Slott's a hack.

>>90710585
He's not gay.

>>90710585
it wasn't love

>>90710585
>Otto, the guy who nearly brought forth nuclear holocaust, sees the true inner beauty of people
>Peter, one of the most humble and morally strongest characters in marvel, fucking doesn't because all of his girlfriends have been hot and hot people can't be beautiful on the inside

Slott must be truly delusional

>>90710665
>I cured this sick little girl, how selfish of you to prevent me from doing this Peter!!!1
>Nevermind the fact that I brought her sickness about because I nearly burned billions of people to death
I dunno which is worse, this moment or the one where powerless Norman Osborn gets away ON FOOT and regular Spidey, 2099 and the entire police force on-site fail to catch him

>>90710948
Remember that time Peter got hit with a brick thrown by a normal guy because he doesn't have some kind of precognitive warning sense and missed his wedding?

>>90706304
Because SpOck was already gone by then?

>>90710983
Remember that time Gods, magicians, mutants who could bring you back from the dead and supergeniuses who make modern scientists look like cavemen couldn't do something about a bullet wound?

>>90684217
So he's a villain again? I thought he became a good guy at the end...

>>90711047
>Professor X had a mutant who could heal someone after their heart had been torn right out of their ribcage but said "fuck it pete, you're aunt's a goner"

Fuckin muties.

Remember that time God himself came down and told Peter to chill and have faith and Peter said fuck that and made a deal with Satan?

>>90685159
Or is it proof that Slott is a Nazi?

>>90710983
My headcanon is that Mephisto briefly merged 616 Spider-Man with the newspaper strip version and thus allowed that to happen

But I feel like stressing the former point
>Spider-Man, future Spider-Man and police have a hold on depowered Osborn
>Stone jams Spider-Man's spider-sense, doesn't stun Miguel cause he doesn't have one, doesn't do anything to regular police officers
>Osborn runs for one panel, where he's standing maybe two feet away from the Spiders, and then is gone by the next one
>Not one officer runs after
>Spider-Man 2099 has webs and doesn't use them, is superhumanly fast and doesn't run after
>616 Spider-Man is incapacitated for the duration of two panels, then forgets he can use spider-sense to track enemies
>Did Norman turn around the corner? Did he slip through a sewer hole? Did he just take a cab and fucked off to the nearest coffee shop?

>>90711123
What's extra funny is that the marriage got erased in the newspaper comic too but after outrage from fans Larry Lieber decided "Nah know what? Fuck Quesada, the marriage is back on again."

>>90688504
>Gonna go reread Superior

Why would you waste your time reading that filth? Let a lone a second time?

>>90696921
>just in time for the universe to end

Which is when he fucking died a second time you ignoramus. He died with the entirety of the Ultimate Universe, sans The Maker and Miles.

>>90684217
BASED

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>>90711410
it's fun

>>90711165

meanwhile Marvel doubles down on their decision, has basically erased MJ from the book, and has determined that no one ever can let the marriage happen again.

compare that to Superman, a character with even more history, who was rebooted and generally disliked by the community in Nu52. DC listens, reboots, and warps realities to bring back Superdad and Lois Lane into the main fold.

>>90684284
Personally I feel Otto is the character Slott writes best.

>>90690944
>I'm not surprised

Neither is anyone else. This has been telegraphed since ASM 700. Why the fuck should anyone be surprised? All of Slott's "twists" are heavy handed as fuck.

>>90693696
You're fucking joking, right?

>>90711076
>I thought he became a good guy at the end...
He did, but this copy of Ock's mind isn't the one from the END of Superior because that one died. This is the back-up created at the end of Spider-verse which was the middle of Superior Spider-man. Before Ock had gone through all of his character development and was actually at peak asshole.

>>90693895
>616's history is otherwise unaltered.

Not true. At all. For example: People mysteriously forgot who Daredevil was. Peter's company was going bankrupt prior to the incusions, now he's a billionaire and Parker Industries is mysteriously ultra successful.

Lots of shit has changed.

>>90711586
>Peter's company was going bankrupt prior to the incusions, now he's a billionaire and Parker Industries is mysteriously ultra successful.
All this was explained with the Zodiac arc.

>>90695436
You forget that you're talking about a guy who fucking loathes the character he's writing.

Even going so far as to call both Peter and MJ "anti-Marvel" in interviews.

>>90697771
>people

Anon, it was one guy: Joe Quesada.

>>90684217
Fuck it, I liked the SS run and Ill read this

>>90693895
Tony Stark and Steve Rogers died at the beggining of the final incursion and they were alive and well when Reed rebuild the multiverse. Same with Black Widow, Punisher, Star-Lord, Sue Storm, almost the entirety of the survival team, most street level marvel villains, Namor, Stephen strange and all the members of the cabal with exception of Thanos and the maker.

>>90686464
Don't forget his other true love was an old lady.

He's the super villain most famous for having tentacles on his back. He's /d/ incarnate:

>>90684555
Thats bizarre, its nit like Willem Dafoe or Alfred Whatever were making anyone froath at the gash

>>90684596
Hes superior to what he used to be

>>90711715
Part of the problem.

> 300 posts

I was expecting Scanbro

>>90711690

you would think after 20 years of trying to undo it and then coming with the stupidest, most disrespectful story you can possibly imagine, the team would step back and say...maybe we don't need to fuck with Spidey like this.

but no. deals with the devil and ignoring God (and that's the big G) is the way to go!

>>90711586
>People mysteriously forgot who Daredevil was.
The current Daredevil arc is explaining what happened, it involves Purple Man. We knew all along that Matt did something to make people forget, it's why Foggy is pissed at him, so I don't get why you think that's an example.

>Peter's company was going bankrupt prior to the incusions, now he's a billionaire and Parker Industries is mysteriously ultra successful.
What this anon said, it was Scorpio >>90711628
All of the changes were just things that happened naturally during the time-skip, no continuity or backstories were changed.

>>90711806
I'm curious as to who the leaker was this time and why they only posted this one page.

>>90711410
>>90711410
Some of us don't get triggered when Peter's harem get ntr'ed.

>>90684463
i REALLY like that design
I hope they keep him

>>90698788

Bendis can't die, he has two niglets to feed.

>>90699126
>Prowler
He wasn't dead. Just frozen. Did you even read the comic?

>>90711496
You are not wrong.

>>90711105
that really happen?

>>90699521
>I actually liked Ocs transition to super heroism

That literally never happened. Even while being Spider-Man, he was doing the exact same shit as always. Even worse in some cases. Take the Sinister Six, for example. He didn't just reform them with the same members. He took those guys and through mind control, turn them into his salivating bitches, stripping away all free will from them.

>>90699575
>But Otto loved Peter's body

Especially while fapping to memories of Aunt May.

>>90711014
Original Sin was planed before that.

>>90699749
No he fucking didn't. Even if he SAYS he did, he didn't.

Slott just connected some dots and repeated the same plot points later as an after thought. This is shown by the fact that he can't write a complete story to save his fucking life. Lots of "build up" and zero fucking pay off. Just look at Superior's ending. Rushed as fucking hell, because Slott had no idea what to do.

>>90712556
Yeah, and so was ending Superior Spider-man in time for his new movie.

>>90712487

One More Day.

quite possibly the worst and most divisive super hero story of all time. all of those mocking posts in the chain are things that actually happened in the story.

>>90712573
Gotta get those movie viewers who buy comics.

>>90706998
Well, that os a good News (obscure Sable fan).

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>>90711628
You mean when Scorpio literally says that Parker Industries went from being nothing to a multi-billion dollar enterprise magically overnight and no one knows how?

>>90712922
That anon got it wrong but I'm pretty sure in one of the MANY "Ock is back then he's gone again" arcs, probably in the Living Brain or something he said he manipulated the stock for Parker Industries while stuck in a robot body for his own gain (since he still planned to substitute Peter at that time)

>>90712980
Well, post the page. Until then, nope.

>>90712922 is in-continuity evidence that Secret Wars/the incursions magically altered post-Secret Wars stuff.

>>90712573
>>90712760
They could have had peter return and had it revealed later. It wouldn't be the first time. I think it would have been better than silk.

>>90710296
I thought the midget was dead.

>>90713106
nah anna is still alive and hates ock after finding out who he actually is
doc doesn't got any chance at getting back together with her especially if she finds out that he mindbroke her boyfriend into going to wakanda

>>90712980
My guess is that it'll all turn out to be Norman Osborn's doing.

>>90713003
>in-continuity evidence that Secret Wars/the incursions magically altered post-Secret Wars stuff.
No it isn't. Because if that were the case people wouldn't be able to notice it. If Secret Wars had altered history so that Parker Industries was doing fine, why would people remember that at one point it wasn't and then the stock went up? That's not a continuity change, that's a story development.

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>>90713003
First panel, Sonny Jim.

Now move on from the "Secret Wars changed shit" meme. It's giving Marvel way too much credit, because if they were smart they'd have already undone shit like Sins Past, Vampire Jubille and other stupid BS with the universe being rebuilt but they haven't. At all.

>>90713556
That doesn't explain anything. All it says is, "I got secret shit that no one knows about." and says, literally, nothing more.

Nothing about how Parker Industries went from near bankrupcy to becoming an multi-national, billion dollar company over night (as supported by >>90712922 )

>Now move on from the "Secret Wars changed shit" meme.
Soon as you come up with legit, hard evidence to support your argument. None of these vague throw away lines that mean, well, nothing.

>>90713168
>Because if that were the case people wouldn't be able to notice it

They literally don't. Did you even read Scorpio's dialogue in >>90712922 ? He flat out says that. It just magically happened.

>>90713168
>That's not a continuity change, that's a story development.
>Off panel retcon is now story development.
Fucking... what?

>>90714628
>I'm doing shit in cyberspace that even got Sajani fired
>IT DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING SECRET WARS CHANGED EVERYTHING

Yeah people kept saying it erased Sins Past too and the closest Slott ever said was he was not touching it.

Punch the reality harder, sweetheart. It might just budge.

>>90714737
>trying this hard

kek

>>90714664
They did notice it. They noticed that its stock went up for rasons they don't understand, he doesn't mean "magic" literally.

>>90714695
It's not a retcon, it just hasn't been explained yet.

But forget about it for a second. Is this seriously the only change Reed made? Suddenly give Parker Industries a stock market boost?

>>90714766
>post the page
>page posted
>n-n-no it doesn't count
>YOU are trying to hard
Uh huh.

>>90714769
>Is this seriously the only change Reed made? Suddenly give Parker Industries a stock market boost?

In Slott's book, probably. Hell, does Web Ware even get mentioned in any other book? But, you know, its the hottest selling tech in the world!

>>90711105
>muties
You know, next time some X-men complain about mutants being outclassed/near extinct and all, have 616 Peter going Ultimate Peter and saying that's because they're a bunch of assholes.

>>90714793
>posted page that says literally nothing important/relevant
>b-b-b-but I'm totally right!
kek

>>90714769
>But forget about it for a second. Is this seriously the only change Reed made? Suddenly give Parker Industries a stock market boost?
Johnny is a incompetent manslut and Ben... I don't know, what's he doing after Civil War, now the GotG are earth grounded? I think Pete's the only one with some brains to protect the fort.

Still thinking what the hell will happen to Baxter Building after Parker Inc. goes down.

>>90714938
Hey you go right ahead with your Secret Wars changed everything meme and maybe eventually we'll hear it did work as your go-to excuse for storylines you don't like whether they count or not.

Wishing reality will conform to your wishes tends to not be very effective but we always encourage further tries.

>>90714982
>Wishing reality will conform to your wishes tends to not be very effective but we always encourage further tries.

Ironic, considering I actually cited hard evidence on page. Still waiting to see a page where Ock/Brain talks about altering stocks.

>>90715007
Yeah because the only thing it can mean when he says he's expanding it into a multinational is that... I don't know, follow suit with your preferred extrapolation of notice. Maybe cling to that "Reed changed the world and despite it being changed people remember it WASN'T a multinational", eh?

Makes a lot of sense.

>>90715059
>let me find a vague statement that confirms nothing
>totally 100% proof of everything, guise!
>YOU are the one who is delusional, not me!
>REEEEEEEEEEE

Please, keep it up.

>>90715111
>y--y-you're totally REEEEEing
Adorable.

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>>90705097
I was always a fan of the business suit Doc Ock

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>>90715199
>I'm not mad, YOU are

>>90687141
before this comic series even began he swapped minds with Peter and basically killed him because he was dying when he did it, kind of like Captain Ginyu's body change in DBZ but with bugs doing the swapping instead of him

>>90715598
>he swapped minds with Peter

Incorrect. He reprogrammed Peter's mind to think it was Ock (and Ock's mind thought it was Peter). They didn't literally swap bodies.

>>90711496
Which is a problem when the book isn't and shouldn't be about him.