>The East and West create essentially the same character but

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>>90677013
Well,

Holy shit.

you aren't wrong.

>>90677013
>really make U Think
why did you type like that?
>no capital at the start
>'U' instead of 'you'
>capitalizing the T in Think
>no period at the end

I'm not angry, it's just weird to see.

>>90677084
I don't know. Memes just tend to corrupt themselves like that over time I guess.

>>90677013
>create essentially the same character

No Jack has a much easier time making friends from the very start. Guts eventually softens up to his little group, but from the start Puck was just there to heal him because of his MASSIVE trust issues

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>>90677013
>They wait 7 years for guts get off the boat
>we waited 13 years for a conclusion

>Jack is based off of Ronin
>Becomes a Guts like character
>Guts's design is based off of Ash Williams
Just some observations

>Didn't finish rewatching old jack before watching the new one

Should I go back and finish it?

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skull knight is that you

>>90677229
No, whatever you remember is enough.

Did Jack's father pimp him to a big black guy who likes to fuck little boys?

>>90677265
I don't remember him losing his sword

>>90677317
no one does. Season 5 hasn't fully shown how it happened yet. Just watch it

>>90677153
Memes are but yet another part of the wheel of causality.

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>>90677013

>jack
>not doomguy/slayer

This thought actually crossed my mind. You and i could have been friends in another life OP

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>>90677572
I like this version better.

>>90677254
Oh fuck...how deep does this rabbit hole go?

>>90677229
Yes. But not because it will fill you in more on the story, because it won't. Samurai Jack was a very episodic and light-on-the-story show.

You should go back and watch them because they are fucking awesome. It will also give you something to do waiting for the new episodes to come out as well as increase the hype factor.

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>Punished Jack - A Warrior Past the Point of No Return

>>90677181
At least Jack's story will get an ending, Miura will die before he can finish his story at the pace he;s going.

>>90677269
Yes because he couldn't kill Aku and Aku been after Jack since he was a kid.

>>90677920
>inb4 Season 5 eds with Jack in a boat and season 6 comes around ten years later

YOU CANNOT ESCAPE CAUSALITY

>>90677977
No. NO. It's been too long already. I can't wait anymore. Every year is like 3.8 Jack years. A few more and we'll start hallucinating our parents screaming at us for abandoning our goals. And I personally don't need that. They scowl at me for not having any realistic ones. I don't need any more negative pressure.

>>90677013
Jack doesn't have a massive homolust for his archenemy, except that one time.

>>90677254
Said this before but I never thought that Skull Knight was the bad end version of Guts always thought that was Zodd.

>>90677013
How amazing would a brief team up with them be?

I kept thinking this, but realized given the director and all the imagery its probably more so Mad Max inspired

FIFTY FUCKING YEARS

>>90677013
So when does Jack almost rapes the female lead?

Can you retards stop comparing fucking jack to guts. The newst season didn't indicated anything about berserk and they both different and good on their own.

Also we don't know shit about newst jack season yet. ONLY ONE EP

>>90678533
THERE IS NO ESCAPING CAUSALITY

>>90678491
I JUST STOOD THERE FUCKING WAVING GOODBYE

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>>90677013
Well I mean they're both incredibly likable characters who you desperately want to see win, so yeah, I guess they are a little related. Cross-over when?

>>90678909
SURVIVING

>>90678288
They can both be. Like a jrpg, Guts can have many bad end scenarios.

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>>90677013
But S5 Jack is literally Max.
>hallucinations
>running away
>don't want to care about others and feel guilty about that

>>90680005
It's almost like this is a kind of character archetype or something

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Friendly reminder that Vicky is essentially the PG version of Revy from Black Lagoon.

Although Revy actually seems to get better at treating kids.

>>90677013
Except in Jack's case the nice black man trained him how to use a staff, as opposed to ramming his staff up his ass.

>>90677229
Yes. I'm rewatching the entire series. It's even better than I remembered

>>90677254
Even the same lighting from the 2016 adaptation.

>>90680005
Guts is the same. Only the loli witch is keeping Guts from going insane.

>>90680212
This is stupid, kill yourself.

>>90677013
I was just thinking about this today, actually.

>>90680005
Guts was partially inspired by Kenshiro, who does take a lot of things from Mad Max, so that connection is there

>>90677229
I did and it was worth it.

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Is this thread full of idiots? Characters that have a few similarities aren't "essentially the same character", unless all heroes are "essentially the same character", in which case the comparison is so broad it's almost meaningless.

>Guts fights off horrifying demons constantly drawn to his presence, Every. Single. Day.
>Jack fights off hammy robots (and the occasional demon and/or Aku fight) sent after him for the insane bounty on his head, Every. Single. Day.

Huh, guess I never saw it.

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>>90677013
You act as if this was something new.

>>90677013
Could Jack's blade hurt a demon from the Godhand? The blade was designed by gods to specifically kill anything evil and those bastards are definitely evil. I do believe Jack's Blade can cut them like butter.

>>90684020
>"cultural appropriation" is a good thing that leads to top-tier media
SJW's on suicide watch

>>90677892
>Past the point OF Return
FTFY

>>90684248
Hold on there chief. Don't forget that it also leads to shit like Kappa Mikey and My Life Me.

>>90684425
>Kappa Mikey
>Bad
Go suck a cock to get the taste of shit out of your mouth

>>90684248
It's cultural cross-pollination when it's original media

Blah blah lone wanderer trope, blah blah spaghetti western, blah blah road warior

It's not a particularly complex thread to follow. Japanese and Western media have been doing this dance for quite a while.

>>90677013
The cultural trappings in both cases are mostly window dressing - I say this liking both.

>>90684240
It explicitly cannot harm the innocent and is pretty goddamn good at cutting things. I'd say it can kill anything evilperiod.

>>90684736

There's a reason that show was forced to Nicktoons Network or whatever.

>>90684240
>>90685329
Depends on whether the magic of Gods from three seperate pantheons stacks up the magic of in-universe monotheistic God. Although said God is born from the evil in the hearts of men, so Jack's sword could probably fuck up anything Apostle related.

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>>90683807
It was the same fucking episode.

>>90685417
Guts' ghosts are real though

you can only rip off japan if you add cowboys

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>>90685398
>>90685329
>Griffith acts all smug to Jack
>Jack's blade actually decapitates Slan and kills her permanently.
>The Godhand face when

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>>90684020
i'm ok with this

>>90677013

What is it with Berserk fanboys and seeing "references" in shit that's not really there?

Is this just you guys desperately attempting to fill the gap because Miura is allergic to finishing the series, or is Berserk the only/oldest piece of Medieval fantasy media you've ever experienced?

>>90687263
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSg0J4RnNVI&ab_channel=Berserk
It's the same episode as XCII.

>>90687329

I mean, no, it's not.

Where's the bar fight? Where the army over-running the town? Where's the giant apostle boss? Where's the giant sword? Where's the real ghost attack? Were's the loud, asshole protagonist? Where did you see literally any of this in Samurai Jack?

If there are any similarities at all they're only on the most general, superficial surface level.

>>90687329
Wait a minute, wasn't Puck supposed to be in that bar scene?

>>90677045
Yes he is. They are nothing like each other.

>>90687516
>>90687263
>Literal Autism Intensifies

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>>90687800

You Berserkucks really are something else. Have fun waiting 20 years for the next filler chapter.

>>90684248
>cultural appropriation
Tumblr doesn't realized that's it's literally being nazis.

>>90677181
>Guts got off the boat after 7 years
>Jack is Back after 13 years
Who else needs to come back and finish their mission ?

>>90688214
Gordon Freeman.

>>90677013
>Jack is righteous, pure, talented in many ways of fighting, trying to save his homeland/world, stuck in a dystopian future yet has become grittier over time but still very much a "good guy" , kills thousands of bloodthirsty robots, aliens and bounty hunters

>Guts is murderous from very young, kills for money/revenge. Is all rage and hate, in a post-gunpowder mystical medieval time. Has trouble with a hundred normal men.

Bruh guts ain't got SHIT on Jack.

>>90689069
>kills for money
>is all rage and hate
>has trouble with a hundred men
Bruh you haven't read Berserk past the Golden Age, have you ?

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>>90677013
>implying he isn't basically a Witcher at this point
The only difference is, he does it for free

>>90689069
>Jack is righteous, pure

Not anymore he isn't.

If it wasn't for those PTSD episodes, then he wouldn't have bothered checking out the town that the scat bot destroyed.

>>90677013
Eastern shit inspired by western shit is usually top tier

Western shit inspired by eastern shit is either garbage or GOAT, with absolutely no middle ground

It's kinda weird.

>>90689642
>blue eyes
What the fuck is this?

>>90677013
>USA and Japan*
ftfy

>>90677572
Aku making sassy comments and laughing during the eclipse would be great

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>>90690076
They're called mods my friend

>>90690110
>Berserk
>USA

>not Europe
Nigger what

>>90690227
I mean where the shows are made. Hell your pointing that out shows how little OP's premise "makes you think". The culture on which Berserk is based in not the same that produced Samurai Jack.

>>90690172
Stop

>>90690333
>The culture on which Berserk is based in not the same that produced Samurai Jack

It isn't?
I always thought USA just carried over European culture
Do americans think they have their own culture?

Are you guys ready for the inevitable Rick and Morty cameo?

>>90690593
Westerns are pretty American, so things like Trigun and Cowboy Bebop would be based on American Culture. Maybe Superheros too?

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>>90690353
Some mods are for the best
This is Witcher 2, left is vanilla

>>90677013
"Grass is greener" has some really great benefits to the entertainment industry.

>>90690593
Yeah, I'd say so, I wouldn't call America "European culture". Generally speaking, I think of knights to Europe, samurai to Asia, cowboys/gunslingers to America.

>>90677013
But Jack never took it up the ass by a big guy

>>90677013
Who would win in a death battle between Guts and Jack?

A Eastern-inspired knight vs a Western-inspired samurai?

>>90690702
I'm fine with it as long as it's subtle.

>>90690970
Too late.

I'm scarred for life.

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>>90690902
When you talk about European culture, you usually think about pre-roman Philosophy, medieval music, British literature, Italian art, greek architecture and so on

When you talk about Japanese culture, you think about their millenary spirituality, their sculpture and painting, their majestic architecture, their unique cuisine and traditional clothing

When you talk about American culture, you really think about cowboys/gunslingers and superheroes?
Something that basically didn't exist 150 years ago?

>>90683807
people here use any excuse to mention berserk

>>90688214
Roland deschain

>>90687494
Yeah, in the manga he was. The anime skipped a lot of details.

>>90691408
America is a relatively young country. It didn't exist even 300 years ago. I guess if you go before the USA then it would be American Indians' culture as American culture.

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>>90691408
Well, is there more to it? When a country is made up of immigrants, then the only things that become it's own culture is when the people settle themselves and think of their society as separated from their old one. Even then, most of america's culture is just a mish mash of other ones that came before, and even if that can be considered unique, it's still too easy to trace it back to it's country of origin.

Which is why it's easy to cling to cowboys and super heroes as "all american". They all look distinct enough to be called their own stuff, and were spread worldwide via american media.

That and the love for guns. There are gun loving people all around the world, but holy shit, do americans get the fame of being gun nuts.

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>>90677228
>>90677161
>>90678288
>>90678533
>>90678533
This shit every fucking time

His name is Gattsu

>>90692260
>most of america's culture is just a mish mash

And yes, I know all culture is like that. What I meant by it is that since the parts that made the whole were already recognized as their own cultures, it's hard to call it "american" in any way.

Well, aside from the natives culture, as people have said before.

>>90691408
>When you talk about American culture, you really think about cowboys/gunslingers and superheroes?
>Something that basically didn't exist 150 years ago?

I think of fat people, people insane about their guns as if they formed a whole religion around owning them, and how Jesus was some redneck fuck that hates brown people

>>90692314
Shut up weeb

>>90691408
Well, yeah. America as we know it hasn't had enough time to develop long standing traditions and culture of its own. There were the natives, but that's not the America we're talking about. The closest thing to culture really are the wild west and cowboys and stuff.

>>90692314
You mean ガッツ you fucking faggot.

>>90692218
>>90692409
>America is a relatively young country. It didn't exist even 300 years ago
>There were the natives, but that's not the America we're talking about

Italy is a young country, it has barely 150 years old.
But damn if it has a culture

Being young is ok if you inherit everything the elders left to you

>>90692260
Cowboys are actually from Spain.

>>90692420
ツ

>>90678288
I always considered both of them representative of two different paths guts could have taken
>zodd= guts giving into his savagery and rage
>skull knight= guts abandoning his humanity for his obsession with revenge

>>90692260
>>90692338
>>90692363
The gun loving really is just a part of the culture that sort of bled out of the wild west: guns being necessary to hunting and protection when more than half of America really was the wild west. Nowadays its a cultural thing and why the second amendment is treated like a religion: because as a cultural tradition, it pretty much is religion.

>>90692455
Americans killed their elders.

>>90684020
I think the reason why some of this is so awesome, is how two nigh alien cultures view one anothers culture through their own lense

>>90692519
Just wait, in another century some asshole is going to romanticize the whole American gun culture and try to make it somewhere in the same area as the samurai=sword thing.

Then we will have idiots spouting off how guns are the soul of the redneck and every maverick household had their family gun that was sacred to them.

>>90692490
And they were present in both South America and Australia.

But when you think about cowboys, a vaqueiro doesn't really come to mind. That's because of the spread made by america media.

What I mean to say is, it isn't the actual cowboys that are american culture, but their representation of hard ass gunslingers, just like knights are seen as brave and just instead of fat lard-ass lords.

>>90692490
>ツ

pls

>>90692589
Well, westaboos are a real thing.

>>90692689
what kind of gun do you think would be the spiritual family line soul keeper?

>>90677013
>The East and West create essentially the same character but based on each others' culture
>Jack is forever alone
>Guts was raped and cucked
Really makes you think.

>>90692455
They didn't, they got pissed after they sold their land to us and then died of disease.

>>90692754
To be fair it's got tentacle porn, too.

>>90692455
>inherited
Name one country that wasn't created through violence or have its borders redrawn with violence.

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>>90692718
>not knowing about the legendary peacemaker

>>90691408
Every time someone tries to make a bit of culture in the USA everyone shits on it.

It's got culture. No one wants to see it because that bucks the narrative.

>>90692885

Iceland.

>>90692885
Switzerland
lel

>>90692885

Canada, Australia, Iceland, New Zealand etc.

>>90692926
Well last time you created neo-feminism and cultural marxism

>>90692960

But thats wrong as shit, the swiss confederacy was in literally every war for centuries, they even got invaded in napolean times and their territory changed.

amercian history education...

>>90684248
>cultural appropriation
The entirety of modern civilization is made out of cross cultural appropriation.
We try to keep the best traits of everyone.

>>90692926
I remember watching a show about food trucks where everyone couldn't shut up about making food the "LA style".

Which was cooking food normally.

Is that why you hate the fuck out of them?

>>90692584
And we love each other for it.

>>90692314
Guts is named Guts because they literally found him in a pool of blood bellow his hanged mother.

>>90692976
>>90692951

Iceland? Maybe. But it's filled with a history of deception on its part. The rest? Nah son.

>>90692960

got 'em

>>90693006
It was a joke my nigger
Switzerland is literally a land of exiled warriors

But in fact, the country wasn't born through violence, it was born to avoid further violence

>>90692976
Australia and New Zealand were literally created from attempted genocide of native peoples dude.
Canada to a lesser degree, but it was still colonialism.

>>90692885
Antartica

>>90687263
>What is it with Beserk fanboys and seeing "references" in shit thats not really there?

hey friend, sounds like you're giving a nod to something. like, a reference to another show that may have similar qualities.

isnt that.... bizarre....

>>90691408
Cowboys are pretty cool though to be fair.

>>90692885
Canada, Iceland, New Zealand

You know, those successful countries that never had to fuck over anyone or kill people across a border to get land

>>90693314
>>90693163

Guts is MUCH more like Afro Samurai than Samurai Jack

>>90693206
Who's the president of Antarctica?

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>>90693361
-Both orphans that were raped as kids
-Both hunted by a group of assholes (Though Jack has this too)
-Both see their friends get brutally killed by someone close to them
-Both have massive trust issues because they have seen some shit or been betrayed
-Both enjoy taking pain in order to fight harder
-Both are quiet

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>>90692926
American """"culture"""" consists of
>going shopping at Wal-Mart,
>cheap ass grease based fast food that is killing you every time you stand too close to it much less eat it
>Being a complete and utter dick to everyone you meet on the sidewalk, even going out of your way to be one
>glorifying guns as if they are some spiritual entity
>owning a car
>explosions
>never winning a war ever but they keep on trying like the little fat person that could.

Americans do not really have a culture anon, they have no traditions, or traditional dress, music, dance, food, nothing at all. They are empty shills for consumerist crap, and the little bits of other people's culture that they desperately cling to is just Disney knock-offs also sold as cheap consumerist crap.

This is why they do things like make uninformed shit versions of Japanese culture, Polynesian, Native American, or what they like to assume is celtic.

>>90692885
Vanuatu, I think? I just remember that way back then, instead of the UK and France fighting over the place, they governed it jointly as a condominium. Then America fucking came along in ww2 and told them to go fuck themselves.

>>90691922
We'll see how it goes when the movie comes out.
It's a sequel of sorts, seeing as how Idris Deschain has the horn of Eld.

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>>90693026
This shit is EXACTLY why the rest of Americans hate Californians.

They will come to wherever you live and then smugly lecture on and on eternally about how the Mexican food is better in California somehow because it is thousands of times more authentic. They will always do this.

>>90693513
t. britcuck

>>90693655
He's right though lmao.

t. amerifat

>>90693569
Californian here.

I've never lectured anyone about our mexican food. But that might be because most mexican food I eat I eat from dives.

Now with that said, I've had quite a few friends that have come from places like Arizona and Texas and when we go get some mexican food they say that the shit we have is better than what they have. Though that's really mostly just the chimichangas and carne asada fries that receive those compliments.

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>>90693569
Seen this in action before, it's actually a thing

>You should try some authentic Mexican, this is just some cheaper shit you have to make do with since you live here anon, but you need to go to San Diego for some AUTHENTIC Mexican..

>sees nothing but Authentic Mexicans in the kitchen
>Yea sure anon, I'll have to try that

>>90693513
>>90693655
>>90693670
true except the war part, we fucking won the civil war!

>>90693825
>sees nothing but Authentic Mexicans in the kitchen

Seeing authentic mexicans in the kitchen does not mean they make use of authentic recipes, ingredients, or even cooking styles anon.

I mean, I'm asian but me microwaving a cup of noodles does not make it "authentic asian cuisine".

>>90693825
>Hey man, you have to come to SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA, USA, for some authentic MEXICAN food.

What makes San Diego/LA mexicans better than the any other mexicans?

Also, it ain't authentic without some good old 3rd world food poisoning.

>>90693908
yes it does anon

>>90683730
>Fist of the North Northstar is inspired off Mad Max
>and then Jojo copies Fist of the northstar
>And then Diesel rips off Jojo

>>90693569
ur just mad because the mexican food is way better in california because it's more authentic

>>90693847
What about the Revolutionary War where we made the British get really tired of wasting money and manpower on our Somalia-esque pirate filled shithole?

>>90693513
>no traditional dress
Blue jeans.

>>90694128
>Blue jeans.

>>90678267
Jack lives to defeat Aku, similar

>>90689642
When will he go full doomguy?

>>90693513
We used to have on in the form of lumberjack tall tales, fearsome critters, and American revolution stuff.
Then the immigrants came over and overshadowed it.

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>>90693908

>>90693914
>it ain't authentic without some good old 3rd world food poisoning
Por eso debes ponerle cilantro, mijo.

>>90677444
t. The Merovingian

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>>90688813
The pain, anon

>>90684020
oh cool, an east vs/and west comparison not shitpostified by blind weebs

>>90687966
they'd have to condone punching themselves in public then.

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>>90677013
nahhhh

Jack and Guts are like disparate manifestations of Conan.

Guts represents Conan's intrinsic traits: bad attitude, frequent moral ambiguity, total disregard for authority in favor of his own code

Jack represents his extrinsic habits: the crazy world he inhabits and adventures he gets into, his notoriety, the gradual accumulation of skills and goodies and grudges and who knows what else over time, and his huge beef with sorcerers

>Samurai Jack goes off of the air for a decade
>it's still going to end before Berserk does

How can one artist be so lazy?

>>90700152
Let's ask Kazerad.

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>>90698067
Yeah, I really disliked the original "west exposed to japanese culture" part.
The cultural exchange between America and Japan, especially in animation, is fascinating, and I think it can lead to great discussion.
This meme was an unfair and completely dishonest lie of omission, so I wanted to fix it by showing that there are just as many great examples of western developers paying tribute to japanese culture.

>>90699068
Man I wish they'd make another Conan cartoon. I never even found out what happened to Red Nails.

>>90693513
but does this mean europeans are doing this?
>you usually think about pre-roman Philosophy, medieval music, British literature, Italian art, greek architecture and so on

and are japanese people (as clunky a comparison to europeans is) doing this? (actually kinda but fuck them)

>you think about their millenary spirituality, their sculpture and painting, their majestic architecture, their unique cuisine and traditional clothing

current culture does't dictate the "culture" of a country.

People mentioned westerns that shit's from the 1800s. That's "history" for a relatively young country. The fucking idea of "americana" and "the american dream" are products of a post-WW2 america.

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>>90677013
>>90677045
>>90677254
>>90677836

>>90700601
>huniepop
>bad

>>90687800
They really aren't you faggot

Name something they have in common other than "suffering"

>>90693513
whats wrong with owning a car though

>>90677013
How would Jack have reacted to the sacrifice?

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>>90677013
western Berserk is Conan Eric

>>90689810
>literally starts off with him saving the 2 dogirls

nothing implied that, whats implied is he doesnt try that much anymore

stop drawing straws

>>90689642
>samurai Jack eats hot pockets as he goes from village to village killing sassy homobots

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>>90691150
Wrong.

>>90693513
>>90703023
yeah really, owning a car is somehow bad?