Why did she act like she's so morally superior?

>>90675946
Because she is sitting next to Bojack

>>90675980
Deer me!

>>90676017
It's not hard to be morally superior when in the same room as a child predator

she should get off her high horse

>>90676055
I think he was just drunk.

>>90676043
Oh deer!

>>90675946
because the show was written by liberals who want to slut shame men

>>90676043
You mean a child who was a sex predator?

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>>90676043
>17
>child

>>90676099
Must be so hard on men who sleep around to have such a negative image by society

>>90676043
>child predator
Penny was 17. Which by the way is also perfectly legal in Arizona.

Also remember that time he showed up to her college a whole ONE YEAR later and she gave the whole 'woe is me I was just a chillun' back then' guilt trip as he was being carted away by a throng of fans?

Absolute bullshit.

>>90676117
OBEY THE LAW

>>90676126
We're used to having everyone fawn over us

>>90676126
the 3rd season literally had Bojack being berated for having consensual sex with an adult female.

>>90676141
slavery was the law
everything hitler did was legal

come up with some better material, Mr. Dredd

>>90676131
Her parents probably gave her no end of shit over it, so it makes sense she'd act like a deer in headlights.

>>90676043
ephebophilia is not pedophilia. brush up on your vocabulary

>>90676189
>her parents verbally abused her and shamed her for being who she was

this sounds very realistic in the puritan U.S. dead serious.

>>90676131
That's good and fine within the confines the Arizona but the moment he steps foot outside the state he raped his friends daughter in, California can more than easily arrest him for being a kiddie fucker

>>90676195
Didn't you get the memo? A 60 year old dating a 22 year old is pedophilia now. Get with the times, grandpa.

>>90676217
i don't think that's how it works. a state can't arrest someone for something they did in another state that was legal.

that'd be like arresting someone in the u.s. for having sex with a prostitute in the the red light district in Netherlands where it's legal. i don't think that will hold up in court

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>>90676230
back in my day there were only 150 pokemon

>>90676110
Same reason he didn't go into the ER room after poisoning that girl with booze

>>90676189
That's the only reason that situation would fuck her up. If she had sex with Bojack then, wow, she had sex with a trusted older man. End of story.

Instead it became this big dramatic thing where it was treated like the end of the world, and a part of her life was thrown into upheavel. That sort of shit leaves trauma, not sexing an older guy.

>>90676287
>having another kid take the fall

see, that was the real transgression of the episode. puritans refuse to see that. they're too focused on the sex because they repress themselves so much

>>90676210
Dude you saw how her mom reacted. She threatened to straight up murder him. I find it hard to believe she was supportive and understanding with Penny. She probably didn't believe her when she said nothing happened and acted like it was the end of the world, which would have traumatized her way more than just getting rejected.

That and her friend getting all fucked up would be enough so that anything that reminded her of that night would freak her out.

>>90675946

Because she didn't try to fuck his best friend's teenage daughter.

>>90676316
i completely agree with you. the mom lost her shit and made things worse

>>90676321
she told BJ that he didn't have a chance with her after she'd egged him on and cuddled with him. so he was available and probably horny and emotionally aroused. she put him in a state. it's what she wanted.

>>90676178
Must be why Hitler lost the war and his cronies were out to death after trial

>>90676195
A rose by any other name is still statutory rape. Kinda like calling land whales "thicc" doesn't make them any less obese

>>90676429
>statutory rape

>>90676131
>Penny was 17. Which by the way is also perfectly legal in Arizona.

>>90676043
nigga, 17 is legal in Arizona, so how the fuck is he a child predator???

>>90676450
Yeah well where I'm from miscegenation is illegal. A horse fucking a deer? That's the death penalty.

>>90676249
They sure as hell can hombre.

>>90676429
>>90676429
>a rose by any other name

nah. words have meaning.

sleet is not snow.
ice is not frost on the ground.

you see, have these things called "words", and they are used to communicate. this must be a new concept to you but i assure you it's a thing.

>>90676489
okay, prove it.

last i checked california wasn't arresting tourists for owning guns a certain way in another state

>>90676249
There is a reason why polygamist dare not set foot outside of their communities

>>90676313
>If she had sex with Bojack then, wow, she had sex with a trusted older man. End of story.

Lets not misunderstand the situation here. It would still have been a WILDLY inappropriate relationship/sexual encounter, although I think that has more to do with Bojack's relationship to her mother than her age, although the age gap still plays a pretty big role.

It just doesn't mean he's a pedophile. Or a criminal. Or immoral. It would just make him a shitty person IF he was the one who instigated it (which he was not) and IF they actually did anything (which they didn't).

Of course they very well may have if Charlotte didn't walk in on them. We'll never know there.

do people legitimately think bojack did nothing wrong here or is it just a meme

>>90676489
You're an idiot.

>>90676529
polygamy is illegal in all 50 states. not an argument. you're shifting goalposts by trying to talk about communities instead of states

>>90676531
>WILDLY innapropriate

yeah not really.

>>90676541
bojack was a horrible person for letting another teenager take the fall for the teen that had alcohol poisoning. that was the real transgression.

bullshit claims about sex with an intelligent teenagers being bad is the meme that puritans are clinging to

>>90676541
It's a reaction to the fairly bullshit bit in season 3 where the deer girl seems to have somehow been traumatized by not fucking Bojack and getting yelled at by her mother.

>>90676460
actually, 18 is the consent age in Arizona. it doesn't matter since it's in New Mexico, and their age of consent is 17.

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>>90675946

wasn't Penny sober the whole time?

>>90676607
>yeah not really.

Dude, I'm going to be frank with you. If you don't see any kind of problem with a 50 year old man fucking his former love interests' teenage daughter at her own house (literally right after trying to make a move on her) then you might have some serious social issues.

>>90675946

She didn't try to bone her friend's underage kid?

>>90676700
i'm going to be frank with you.

if you can't fathom the fact that mature teenagers come on to adults you might be an uptight conservative fuckhead, or a liberal sjw who has some serious control issues with what people choose to do willingly with their bodies.

>>90676700
>at her own house

on HIS boat. after he told her told to leave.

try the fuck again.

>>90676702
Is OP's pic an appropriate position for a married mother to be in?

It has (mostly) nothing to do with age of consent and legality and everything to do with the fact that he was using his friend's daughter to project his own feelings for his friend.

That's morally reprehensible even without the age difference and Bojack abusing his level of responsibility.

>>90676700
It wasn't a good decision to be sure, but it's not morally repugnant.

>>90676750
Which was parked literally right in her driveway.

It's not exactly the same but still pretty fucking close.

>>90676792
>using his friends' daughter to project his own feelings

perish the thought that he accepted she was not her mother, told her to leave because she was young, and then was ready to have a random encounter that had nothing to do with Penny's mother.

>>90676794
Exactly, which is precisely what I said in this post >>90676531

>>90676730
Oh I can fathom that, but it was still a shitty thing to do. Mostly for Charlotte's sake.

>>90676730
Be honest:

Would you be okay with your teenage daughter fucking a 50 year old man?

>>90676823
>still a shitty thing to do

not really.

>for charlotte's sake
how? all she did was verbally abuse BJ and Penny. last i checked sexually mature people don't ask their parents permission to have sex.

>>90676852
be honest.

do you really think teens don't fuck? do you really think it would be better for teens to be having irresponsible sex with other teens?

DARE didn't keep people from doing drugs
the "abstinence" ploy didn't work

hey how about waking up to the reality that people have sex. 100 years ago or a little more, 15 year old girls were married off. in the bible, god statutory rapes mary to have jesus.

17 is not controversial. it isn't.

>>90676541
Before season three, there were apologists here saying that Bojack didn't really try to sleep with Penny and it was all just a misunderstanding. The creator had to clarify that he really was trying to sleep with her.

>>90675946
She just didn't want to ruin her family on a whim.

>>90676909
>he was really trying to sleep with her

huh. funny way of showing it, since the show depicts BJ telling Penny to go to bed, an ambiguous line that showed the audience that Penny wanted it rather than leave.

>>90676820
>he accepted she was not her mother,

Where? The whole thing with the lanterns was a huge sign he saw her Charlotte in Penny.

>>90676939
He left the damn door open. He was undressing with her in the room. How the fuck was that ambiguous?

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>>90676900
>god statutory rapes mary to have jesus

>>90676131
>>90676217
16 in many states is legal

>>90676900
Bro my friends started having sex at 13. Not saying that's a good thing, but it happens.

And just because a 17 year old has a legal right to fuck a horny old man doesn't mean she should. If I had a choice I'd want to catch my daughter getting dirty with a boy her age, not a dirty old man.

>>90676900
Bojack is pretty much a video guide to why a teen should not fuck a 50 year old man and his 50 year old baggage. If you don't get it, then you're the kind of guy fathers need to protect their daughters from.

>>90676942
i was offering conjecture. the show doesn't spell it out for us exactly what BJ was thinking. what it does show is that Penny wanted it, then starts an arthur miller blame game on him.

>>90676872
>how? all she did was verbally abuse BJ and Penny.
Yeah after she caught them because she was pissed (understandably).

Also we don't know for sure that she actually verbally abused Penny, that's only conjecture. Her reaction was still over-the-top intense, but any mom would have been pissed in that scenario, especially given BJ's and Charlotte's relationship.

You seem to be really hung up on this whole age thing and I'm not even making a big point of that. I'm all for sexually mature teenagers fucking who they want to fuck. I'm just saying that IF BJ was the one to instigate it (which he was not) it would have been fucked up, but more so because of other specific factors than because of Penny's age.

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>>90676900
>God raped Mary
This is getting good

>>90676982
>if i had a choice

but you don't. girls become women. deal with it.

>>90676986
>why a teen should not fuck a 50 year old man
yeah, because they will be verbally abused and shamed by their parents, which does more psychological damage.

>if you don't get it you're the kind of guy fathers need to protect their daughters from
i like older women. think about it. you'd never be having this conversation if it was about a teen boy with an older woman, because literally no one cares, because there's a double standard.

>>90677002
>you seem to be hung up on this age thing
oh you. if age has nothing to do with it then the mother is most definitely a controlling witch who can't deal with the thought of mature teenagers having sex, despite the fact that the justice system holds teens accountable for crimes and charges them as adults, which is a double standard.

>>90676986
Except Bojack was a generally stable element of Penny's life, and was being kicked out before he could sabotage things.

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>>90676900
>100 years ago or a little more, 15 year old girls were married off. in the bible, god statutory rapes mary to have jesus.

>>90676965
>>90677014

that's literally what happened.

and christians love it. every sunday they take their precious little broodlings to church and shove the violent image of a man dying on a roman torture device, then go right around and yell at people if young adults are sexually active

>>90676141
Penny outright said the age of consent was 17 in her state. Bojack was obeying the law.

>>90676541
He was in the wrong.

But also 17 year old deer pussy was for the taking, I mean, it's hard to say no.

We understand.

>>90677095
>literally

shit, i meant figuratively. god isn't real.

>>90677081
the bible is worse than drugs, let me tell you

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>>90677095

>>90677095
>>90677115
Aw, did you just discover /r/atheism the other day, you little scientist you?

Be sure to follow the holy word of black science man and bowtie science man!

>>90675946
>she
There's your answer.

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>>90677058
>if age has nothing to do with it
I outright said that age was a factor, just not the biggest factor.

Look dude I get it, you really REALLY want to fuck teens and I understand that. It's okay. I'm just saying you probably shouldn't go around fucking your close friends' teenage daughters in their home driveways or they might get tad angry at you.

>>90677142
oh look it's moses! hey let's worship a god that murders egyptian children who had no grievances with him!

>>90676700
sounds hot

>>90676852
I'm not dumb enough to have children

>>90677144
>black science

rick remender is a damn good writer. there is no need for that kind of blasphemy. lol

>>90676321
Doesn't that make her the worse person?

>>90677151
>fucking a teen in their home driveway
>a contrived scenario on a cartoon

oh of course. i must be thinking exactly like a cartoon character. i better start trying really hard to be 3D and become a better person

>>90677156
To be fair, the Pharaoh killed a bunch of jewish children who had no grievances with him first.

>>90676141
There are only 10 states in which 18 is the age of consent, the most common age of consent in the US is 16.

>>90677198
>killing children out of revenge is fair

yeah that was really fair to the egyptian kids. that's some supremo high morals moses' god has got right there.

>>90676117
To a lot of people that's still like fucking a toddler.

don't have sex with teens! but killling kids and raping mary is fine!

it's what the bibbel teaches us

>>90675946
In what way did she do that?

>>90677223
uh, no

I don't think so

What kind of rock do you live under my dude?

>>90677235
danced on the line of infidelity and came close to cheating on her husband, or led a man on even though she was a married woman

>>90677223
But it's not though. Those people are retarded.

>>90676900
How about just gassing all teens who have sex? That'll stop 'em!

>>90677217
You're confusing the Jewish God with Jesus' God. He's not supposed to be this highly moral thing. He's vindictive as fuck, even towards his own people. Every plague is a direct "Fuck you" to a different Egyptian God, just as the killing of the Egyptian first-borns was a fuck-you to the Pharaoh.

>>90677272
it's what jesus would have wanted

>>90677266
How is that acting morally superior?

>>90676982
Sex keeps happening younger and younger i was 15 she was 14, it's the new sexual revolution.

>>90677275
Jesus was jewish

>>90677156
>implying that's bad
Prove it!

>>90677151
>Look dude I get it, you really REALLY want to fuck teens and I understand that.

Oh god. What if we were arguing with John Byrne the whole time?

>>90677301
>new

it isn't new. nothing about teens being horny is new. rip that bandaid off now, you'll thank me later.

>>90677297
The question is why she believes she has the right to act morally superior when she's committed the acts that the previous post laid out for you.

>>90677234
High five my atheist brother! I tip my fedora to you!

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I think there is just one random /pol/ user in here getting really angry at himself and making posts about the bible as fast as the capchas allow but can't be totally sure...

>>90677307
What a mind-blowing factoid! What are you, twelve?

Despite being Jewish Jesus' God was so radically different that not only was he shunned by his fellows, it spawned an entire new religion separate from Judaism.

>>90677336
You haven't explained how she acted morally superior in the first fucking place.

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>>90677277
Pass. If I'm looking for that kind of action, I'll fry up some tasty onions.

>>90677348
>everything I dislike is /pol/

Seriously, fuck off. Not even the same dude, but you're the reason people call this place /co/mblr.

>>90677331
Anybody got screenshots of Byrne's fan-forum posts?

>>90677348
I thought /pol/ liked God? I guess it depends on the guy. Maybe it's just an r/atheism raid.

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>>90677151
So can I fuck them in my driveway than?

>>90677360
>it spawned an entire new religion

that was then used by european empires to violently conquer people across oceans and rationalize the civil wars inherent in feudalism.

>>90677376
It's clearly a false-flag and not a genuine atheist.

>>90677400
you got me.

holy water can't melt tachyon beams

>>90677387
Yeah that's cool.

>>90677268
>>90677250
These people exist, unless your doing a laundry list of things they approve as a sing of matirity you will be treated like a child.

>>90677387
fucking kek

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>>90677336
Yeah, I don't remember Penny calling BJ a rapist or anything. She just freaked out when she saw him, saying that she's not supposed to have any contact with him. Probably because her parents overreacted and put the fear of God in her. And not a nice, chill God. Rapist, baby murdering God.

>>90677390
Good thing only Europeans and Christians ever did anything wrong in the entirety of human history amirite. Sure is great we have one bad group in the entirety humanity history.

Oh god they rationalised civil wars you say, what ever shall we do! Conquering other nations, that's inconceivable!

The sad thing is Bojack knows he did something shitty but some of you assholes don't.

>>90676524
Do those tourist bring their guns? Checkmate, 2nd amendment btfo

>>90677440
lol remember when some asshole named king david came along and lusted after another dude's wife and then sent her husband off to die david could get with her.....

....AND THEN god said david was his favorite?

lol good times man. silly fucking christians and jews! i'll bet they think they're so superior that they pick on muslims for their beliefs or things mohammed did!

>>90676524
Selling weed inside Colorado is perfectly legal but transferring said money through the banks to another state is suddenly illegal. Legal money in one state is drug profits for another

>>90677440
Man Samson is lucky the US government wasn't around to invent AIDS back then.

>>90677508
OH. so what you're saying is that BJ kidnapped Penny to another state?

oh wait that never happened.

>>90676569
And yet it's legal in said communities and the state doesn't rush in and arrest them. Only when they they set foot outside their territories. You're the one moving the goalpost the moment you see you have no case without it

>>90677476

That's not really the argument though. The argument is California arresting someone for an act that is legal outside their borders but illegal within them. So a more apt analogy would be California arresting people for owning gun but storing them out of state.

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I think I need to clear up the fact that 17 years old is actually NOT LEGAL in Arizona. The age of consent is 18 there.

But then I feel I also should point out that Charlotte's home address is actually in New Mexico, where 17 is actually, in fact the legal age of consent.

Sorry that was just bothering my autism a bit.

>>90676900
100 years ago we also used lead paint on everything because people are stupid.

>>90676489
>>90676217
This is just completely false. State courts can only prosecute crimes that occur within their jurisdiction, that jurisdiction being the actual territory belonging to that particular state (and they retain that jurisdiction even if the land the crime is committed in belongs to the federal government).

A state couldn't even attempt to prosecute a statutory rape case that occurred in this instance because a) No actual statutory rape occurred due to the lower age of consent b)Even if it had the state doesn't have jurisdiction over things that happen in other states.

So please stop telling people retarded nonsense.

>>90677585
ALTERNATIVE FACTS!

>>90677268
And yet the rapist still rot away in jail with their rapist buddies

>>90677641

A lot of those states with lower age of consent laws do however have laws about crossing state lines to have sex with a minor. Basically to prevent them from becoming tourist destinations for older dudes that want to prey on kids. So given the circumstances it was still potentially illegal for Bojack to give Penny the long dong.

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>>90677520
Frittata!

>>90677370
> everything I hate is tumblr

>>90676939
He left the door wide open without closing it, anon. When her mom walked in, he clearly wasn't trying to stop Penny

>>90677486

To be fair God was really pissed off that David did that to Uriah and Nathan called him out on it. God liked all the other people David killed in his name though.

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>>90677788
Not as pissed off when David took that census. Boy howdy, time to MASSACRE PEOPLE.

>>90677707
Shhhhhhh. Don't let the pedos know that

>>90677707
Since those particular laws require someone to have premeditated intent, which he didn't, it would he'd never get convicted.

>>90675946
She didn't try to fuck Bojack's underage teen daughter.

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>there are people in this thread who would be okay with someone like Bojack fucking their daughter

>>90677872
Ahhh yes, people accidently fuck children all the time. Ooopsy

You fags do realize that in the context of the show, her being only 17 wasn't even the main problem.

It was because she's Charlotte's daughter. If she was like, 19, he still would have been thrown out.

>>90677542
Not the anon you're responding to, but you're fucking retarded.
Let me explain to you like you're a autistic child.
You can be married by the church, but that doesn't mean you're automatically married legally. By the same token, you can be married to five different people in some cult, but that doesn't mean you're allowed to be married to more than one by the state. No state allows that. Just like with murder, you'll be prosecuted regardless of what state you commited the crime in. Whereas age of consent varies state by state.

>>90675946
i liked that show, even sad times

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>>90678973
Same here. It's a nice show, very entertaining.

>>90676131
Yeah that outcome really chapped my ass. I didn't expect her to jump on him and pick up where she left off but to go on the defense as like "omg you were taking advantage of small defenseless child" was bullshit. She should've been like "it was a foolish act, I didn't grasp the gravity of the situation at the time, but you're no saint ether, I'm fine now, but please let me live my life in peacr"'

>>90678319
>intent doesn't matter
>how degrees of murder in the legal work?

your daily reminder that the legal age of consent in japan is 13

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>>90679074
I'm sure it's not that simple.

>>90676316
This. She wasn't being self righteous in that scene, she was just freaked out. That's not BoJack's fault, but him driving cross country to confront her while drunk and stoned off his gourd doesn't exactly scream 'rational level headed encounter.'

>>90679238
Er, not ONLY BoJack's fault. It was a little bit his fault. He knows he could have handled that situation better. That whole night, really.

I want to date Princess Carolyn

>>90676043
Oh boy, here we go...

>>90676110
No, that was an Archer episode.

>>90677707
>A lot of those states with lower age of consent laws do however have laws about crossing state lines to have sex with a minor.

Ok, I legit did not know this and find it totally weird that the law works like that over there? How would you even enforce something like that?

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>>90679099
The mandated minimum age of consent is 13 but individual prefectures can, and all of them have, set it higher than that.