>Literally only three shows are airing on the network now

Well, at least TTG lost 2% of the total time.

this is JUST sad

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>That one sliver of pink
>It's neoPPG

How is CN not dead with its lack of variety?

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>>90665686
NOBODY FUCKING CARES YOU NECKBEARD

STOP MAKING THIS THREAD EVERY DAY

MODS DO YOUR GODDAMN JOBS

>>90665818
Their ratings have fucking plummeted in the last few years, and even in the last few months. Last year premiers would hit 1.5-2 million, now they're hitting 0.8-1.1 million. It's like they're embracing their death spiral.

Nick is just Spongebob, Loud House, and Henry Danger

Disney is fuck all I don't pay attention to it in yesrs, but I assume it's 3 tween sitcoms

But yeah TTG is Cartoon Networks Soongrbob and has basically destroyed the channel after it had just recovered from the 2007-2011 phase

The only hope is Disney XD. Which has a variety lineup, large numbers of good shows, and a promising future.

>>90665818
CN is going for the younger demographic, and little kids will eat anything up regardless of variety. Just look at Spongelodeon.

I wonder if TTG really is this cost effective.

>>90665864
It's the Spongbob effect

>get a popular show that's cheap to make
>all your other shows start to finish
>just show the other thing instead of making anything new all day because you figure it'd be cheaper
>occasionally show a new show for a few weeks before putting it in a graveyard slot and cancelling it. Reruns of the old show continue
>network dies over several years as your once variety filled channel is now dominated by a single horrible monstrosity

Thou this is different because A.) Spongbob was much bigger than TTG ever was B.) SpongeBob was actually good at first

I really don't know what happened to CN. The ratings for TTG were never that amazing and it didn't become a global phenomena like SpongeBob 2000-2004. Shows like Adventure Time and even Stephen Universe generated for bigger fan bases. I think maybe the period unction cost is low because of the bad animation and minimal action

>>90665967
You said it yourself. It's cheap to make. It's not a absolute ratings killer like Spongebob was in the 2000s but the ROI is probably comparable, especially since Teen Titans is owned by Time Warner.

>>90665872
I agree. Motorcity, Tron, Randy Cunningham, Star Vs. and Atomic Puppet have been nice shows.

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>>90665872

>Star vs Season 3 and Ducktales reboot set to air this summer

Are these two shows really our only hope?

>>90665686
It's only natural we enter another dark age after a recent good couple of years.
Let's just hope this doesn't last for too long.

It's only america, every other CN is fine.

>>90665686
Do they not make episodes of AT and SU anymore?

They can't even put on reruns of Lego? Regular SHow? Clarence?

>>90666463
>Do they not make episodes of AT and SU anymore?

SU is going through a week hiatus for some shit reason while AT doesn't get a new episode until June. The Aussies got an unaired episode of AT last week for another shit reason.

>>90665820

You know, this extremely /co/ related, since Cartoon network is literally a Cartoon Network. The way it handles itself is relevant to what will happen with some shows, few of which people actually care about on here.

How about you calmly and go fuck yourself, like a mature person.

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>>90665820

>diary of a wimpy kid 3 times

>>90667213
It's also been the only movie they aired this past week and possibly the week before.

This is a network that's now on auto-pilot.

>>90665686
I don't care about CN anymore, as long as Samurai Jack keeps airing for 9 more weeks

Then I'll drop this channel like a flaming piece of shit

>>90667213
>Not even different movies from the franchise.
>Just the same one.
It looks like they're not even trying. I know that gets tossed around a lot but it seriously looks like they just don't give as single iota of a piece of shit.

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>all those 0s beside currently running shows

>>90665686
Why are you keeping Regular Show on there? It's over, the network has shown that it does not care about the show with its 5 hour TTG marathon before the finale

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>>90665734
>that ???? movies/specials slot gets decided as a marathon of the Titans Island Adventures thing
>2% added

>>90667398
I'm more confused why Supernoobs is there. I don't think that's aired since before last summer.

>>90667398
I can't think of a single reason it'd rerun ever again. It went years being a silently running show, episodes premiering weren't broadcasted as new, many were exclusives online months before they aired on TV, and the last 4 years it was a running series there were no reruns and they went out of their way to remove the series from network bumpers and ads.

Along with what you said, a lot of shows die in reruns after it ends, so considering it was a zombie (in more ways than one) it's a done deal.

They haven't for awhile and never will again air holiday specials on their special days, and if every crew member died all at once they wouldn't air a tribute airing either.

>>90665686
Has CN already gotten rid of the new PPGs show? Figured they were gonna shove it down our throats like they've done with TTG.

These color guides in a full image feel like secret maps and layouts or something.

It's fucking weird.

>>90667654
Look at that schedule again

>>90667654
They never spammed it much, I think it was originally envisioned as a Boomerang Exclusive with premieres on CN at times.

Something happened behind the scenes and shit's messing around with it's treatment. They still promote it and it's merchandise.

>>90666181

Stephen Universe

>>90667654
Around the time it started they tried desperately to make it popular, but eventually they just gave up, and now they're trying to bury it.

>>90667724
Decent fan of the series, dropped it when it became painfully obvious that Lapis was going to constantly be around with her "fuck this shit!!" expression and attitude, when Peridot started being overly obnoxious for the sake of meme-tier status, and when they started being more constant with their metaphors that I normally didn't care/notice of.

Maybe their final season will get more straight-forward but eh

>>90667789
and im not >>90666181 by the way

>>90665686
>diary of a wimpy kid movie
>3x throughout the week

why?

>>90667830
It was 4 previously, twice in one day.

>>90665686
I don't know why I was naive enough to think they'd actually give Justice League Action a fighting chance.

>>90667863
Because there was a press release claiming they were coming in on Gay territory, which is a free-pass for attention?

>>90666463
AT is wrapping up and SU is going through some weird shit right now. There's speculations that CN is trying to kill it, but there's no real solid evidence besides rumors

>>90667891
That's the first I've heard of this.

Anyway, DC should just give up on CN entirely (besides TTG I guess). Make Netflix their new home

>people seriously thought Justice League Action was going to save the network

>Disney XD is the only hope for Western animation

Save us mouse. Please

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RrNim6xrBM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXLv209NIhU

Nostalgiafag they called me. It's not that bad they said

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>>90668053

>thinking Mickey wants to save anyone

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>>90668153
>Still salty over WoY
Be happy you even got an ending and Craig is making another show for them

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>>90668211
Too lewd for TV.

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>>90668153
>Pickle And Peanut got another season over WoY

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>>90668153

Desperate times call for desperate measures

Unless CN somehow cancels TTG overnight, Disney are the only ones who aren't complete shit

Movies they've recently enough played so they still have the rights/contracts to air them, or just own them anyway:
>Rio
>Shrek
>Alvin and the Chipmunks
>Scooby Doo: Where's My Mummy?
>Happy Feet 2
>[and the rest of their extensive library]

What they've been showing for many days for weeks:
>Diary of a Wimpy Kid: Rodrick Rules

>>90669146
Isn't CN/Turner's series list bigger than Disney's?

>>90669146
>Movies they've recently enough played so they still have the rights/contracts to air them, or just own them anyway:
The Cat in the Hat, Aloha Scooby Doo, Scooby Doo and the Cyber Chase, Scooby Doo and the Curse of the Lake Monster, Scooby Doo and the WWE Mystery, and Lego Scooby Doo Haunted Hollywood have all aired recently.

>>90665880
I remember being a kid and I enjoyed having a variety of shows even if I had favourites and disliked shows. What's the point of putting on the TV to finish a show you don't like if you know what's coming up and it's the same fucking show?

>>90669398
Everyone presumably loves TTG and Goombil

I have an idea for a cartoon about three gay-acting 10 year old boys. They believe walking to the toilet is a waste of time, so they just pee their pants whenever they need to go.

>>90665686
>Diary of a wet sock: Rod dick schools
but why tho, didn't they play that last week?

>>90669475
4 times

>>90665820
You do realizze you are on a comics and cartoon board mmm yes?

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>>90669329
>>90669146
And a few others.

Titans Trouble in Tokyo was set to air at one point but they opted for CAT IN THE HAT repeats

>>90669503
WWWHHHHYYYY
THE ONLY THING THAT COULD BE VARIED AND EVEN THEN THEY FUCKED IT ALL UP!
ARE WE CURSED TO SUFFER FOR OUR SINS?

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>>90669562
>Cloudy took out and murdered We bare bears
well shit, what's the point anymore

>>90669562
>>90665734
The joke here is they blew their load by 2% recently and now they have to wait to blow it again.

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>>90665686

Jesuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuus. How is this shithole even still alive? I'd love to see numbers for cartoon network's ratings.

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I need a piss bottle because I'm going to be in front of my TV for hours watching TITANS TITANS TITANS TITANS TITANS TITANS TITANS while my momma pampers me with food and drink and FUCK THAT'S THE WRONG BOTTLE NOT THE PISS

My angle here is I feel sorry for the parents of the brainwashed kids who are into Titans this fucking much

>>90669713
Ratings for their premiers are readily available on Wikipedia for any of their currently airing shows, they've collapsed across the board recently. Reruns are harder to gather but I doubt that the story's much better.

>>90669713
They've consistently been going downhill. A lot of shows are below the millions now.

>>90667398
i'm actually the person who makes these so i'll explain. I'll probably keep shows on that list until they haven't aired on the network in a year. Just removed Be Cool, Wabbit, and Tom & Jerry Show from that totals list because of that.
>>90667457
it aired in December as a burnoff bomb (ten new episodes in 2 weeks) paired with Uncle Grandpa (TWENTY new episodes in 2 weeks). Supernoobs got pulled after only one week (hilarious that it cant even get burned off apparently), but Uncle Grandpa still got both weeks.

>>90669823

>a lot of shows are now below the millions

Which of the three they are currently airing? I mean for Christ's sake, I think that it's time to throw in the towel when you have literally only three shows airing total (and one rando episode of powerpuff girls) and some of them are dipping below a million viewers? Oh my god, holy hell that's awful.

Here's the schedule from December 21st 2001 for comparison

6:00am - Reboot
6:30am - Max Steel
7:00am - Looney Tunes
8:00am - Ed, Edd, n Eddy
8:30am - Mike, Lu, and Og
9:00am - Alvin and the Chipmunks
9:30am - PPG
10:00am - Flintstones
11:00am - Smurfs
12:00pm - Scooby Doo
1:00pm - Looney Tunes
2:00pm - Tom and Jerry
3:00pm - Scooby Doo
3:30pm - Johnny Bravo
4:00pm - Ed, Edd, n Eddy
4:30pm - Dexter
5:00pm - Zoids
5:30pm - DBZ
6:00pm - Gundam Wing
6:30pm - Batman Beyond
7:00pm - Justice a League
7:30pm - Samurai Jack
8:00pm - Dexter
8:30pm - Dexter
9:00pm - Johnny Bravo
9:30pm - PPG
10:00pm - Time Squad
10:30pm - Grim and Evil
11:00pm - Courage
11:30pm - Ed, Ed, n Eddy

>>90669808
>>90669823
>>90669923

The last time CN slammed into a wall was around 2008 - 2011, correct?

I wasn't following anything on the network then, how does the current rating drop compare? And I mean more comparatively to other channels at the time, I imagine shit like streaming has probably had a noticeable effect over the years.

>>90669943
They're all dipping below a million viewers, except for Teen Titans Go, which the advertise incessantly and it normally only brings in around 1.1 million lately. What they're doing isn't working and they keep on doing it, they're seriously digging their own grave at this point.

>>90669943
Gumball and Cloudy both had 700k for premieres on Tuesday. TTG had 1.1m a few weeks ago.

Steven Universe went under 1m for the first time with Tiger Philanthropist, and with the random schedule change moving Room for Ruby moving up 30 minutes the day the episode was intended to premiere, things aren't looking up for that.

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>>90665686

>>90665686
how many episodes does TTG have anyhow? how do they not run through the whole series in a week airing it that much?

>>90670071
Tiger Philanthropist probably didn't breach a million because the previous weeks episode (Rocknaldo) was so bad as to be torture.

And this is coming from someone who found some enjoyment in stinkers like Song for Sadie and Future Boy Zoltron.

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>>90669943
This is how much the three shows they're currently spamming are doing.

>>90670225
It has 171, and will have 172 by the end of the week, so assuming they don't air the same episode twice, they're literally airing every episode.

>>90670225
coincidentally TTG has 172 episodes right now. doesnt matter because they essentially ignore S1 and air mostly S2 and S3 episodes. its common to see Pyramid Scheme more than once, maybe even more that twice a week

And if anything, Cloudy really should be cut because the character design is absolutely awful. It looks like the guy has a FUCK huge tumor on the side of his head rather than a nose.

The Jimmy/Timmy power hour thing should have taught everyone that moving 3D designs to 2D and vice versa is extremely difficult to do and keep it mildly competent.

>>90670296
I shit you not I've seen Pyramid Scheme at least twice in one day before. Even that recent BB + Raven shipping ep has aired 3 times on certain days since it's aired.

>>90670249
I'm not sure I understand why they even greenlit a cloudy with a chance of meatballs show, didn't the last movie come out in 2013?

Are they building interest for another movie or are they really just that hard up for shit to air?

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>>90670381
>Moving 3D designs to 2D and vice versa is extremely difficult to do and keep it mildly competent.

You sure about that?

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I was looking at other cartoon network shows and saw this. Can anyone explain whats going on here with be cool scooby doo?

>>90670672
The usual. They forgot it exists

>>90670492
One of the few cases where it works, but even there you can plainly tell that she (the character design) was originally designed in 3 dimensions and has been recreated in 2 dimensions.

Code Lyoko also faced the same problem, though they were helped by the series's ...odd 2D art style (fiveheads anyone?), the limitations on 3D modelling closing the distance in quality from normal hand drawn stuff, and the fact that both systems premiered at the same time for the show, rather than one following the other a few years later.

>>90669943
Here's the combined averages of the most recent ten episodes of each show listed on the chart, from highest to lowest:

>Teen Titans Go - 1.329 million
>Tom and Jerry Show - 1.216 million
>Steven Universe - 1.172 million
>Regular Show - 1.109 million [boosted due to series finale]
>We Bare Bears - 1.075 million
>Adventure Time - 1.027 million
>Mighty Magiswords - 0.994 million
>Gumball - 0.948 million
>Clarence - 0.937 million
>Justice League Action - 0.891 million
>The Powerpuff Girls - 0.881 million
>Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs - 0.877 million
>Uncle Grandpa - 0.707 million
>Lego Nexo Knights - 0.688 million
>My Knight and Me - 0.371 million
(No ratings available for Ninjago, Transformers, or Supernoobs)

>>90666873
>Cartoon Network
It's as much of cartoons as Much is of music.

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>>90671026
>>Regular Show - 1.109 million [boosted due to series finale]
Yea, damn sad that the pre-finale episodes were getting constant .80s and .90s

>>90670672
Probably the same thing as Mystery Inc. CN forgot they had it, then quietly aired the second season in a dead timeslot once they remembered.

>>90671026
>6 shows currently averaging over 1 million viewers.
>Only air one of them in reruns now.
Alright, are there any decent theories about what the fuck is up with CN? I've seen plenty of conjecture but every way you analyze it it makes zero fucking sense from the perspective of a company trying to make money. What the fuck are they doing, what's the angle?

>>90671075
1.109 is still really good for a show that's been running for 7 years.

>>90671191
They're trying to air only kid stuff, nothing teen-wise.

>>90671241
I know, it's just 16/30 episodes being under 1 million sucks.

>>90671264
well, it's kinda backfiring on them, isn't it?

>>90669960
>5:00pm - Zoids
>5:30pm - DBZ
>6:00pm - Gundam Wing
>6:30pm - Batman Beyond
>7:00pm - Justice a League
>7:30pm - Samurai Jack

Can we have this Toonami back?

>>90671190
I get not airing it, but they didn't air an episode for an entire year then skip the second half of season 1 and go straight to airing season 2.

I've never watched the show but this seems weird even for cartoon network standards

>>90671309
I don't think so, they seem to be fine with 1 mils

>>90665880
>>90669398
>>90669441

>executives underestimate how much taste children can have

Shocker

>>90671191
>Regular show is over
>Adventure time is ending
>Tom and Jerry probably and We Bare Bears probably aren't good merchandise wise
>Steven Universe is most likely the most expensive show to produce
TTG is likely one of their cheapest to produce shows, does well with merchandising, and helps generate interest in any kind of Teen Titan focused movie or show WB might want to produce in the future. Also appeals very strongly to the core demographic which is children, lot of people tend to overlook that.

Probably some other shit too, point is TTG, at least from a money making perspective, is their golden goose.

>>90670249
Damn, they were getting 2-2.5 million on premieres 5 years ago.

>>90671362
The second half of season 1 aired.

I swear I hate how a third of the schedule is being taken up by cloudy meatballs. Atleast Titans will get an ALL WEEK MARATHON for spring break.........I hope

>>90671366
That's an odd assumption to make when they've only recently and suddenly crossed that threshold and they were doing significantly better earlier, which matters to them as a business whose primary job is to make money to keep investors happy.

>>90671421
>>Steven Universe is most likely the most expensive show to produce
Sad, but with Action League maybe not

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>>90669562
>Gumball is getting hated as well because it shows too many reruns

Why, This Show is Amazing

>>90671191
TTG and Gumball appeal to kids young enough to watch whatever's on the TV. Most of CN's other big franchises are targeted at older kids who go online when they want to watch it. Supposedly, Steven Universe pulls really good download numbers.

>>90671532
Too much of a good thing.

>>90671264
>2010-12
>Practically everything was teen-oriented and experimental (even the live action), bumpers and promos were actually interesting, ratings went off the roof

>2017
>Miller decides that teen-oriented stuff aren't good for the network, makes the entire channel into bright colors and videos with real life children, spam only a few shows that would pander to children and pull everything teen oriented off the schedule and put it under a rug

What made CN so successful is that they didn't ask "What do kids like nowadays?" and just greenlit shows that felt great for the network.

>>90667724
Nope. Lack of a strong director who will actually put her foot down makes it just as bad as later seasons of Adventure Time.

>>90671532
It's been run into the ground with the same episodes, and the humor has got grating. It has the same "Sorry I went on too long and I now I don't know what my point was so I'm gonna fade my voice ou-" kind of deadpan joke with few variations and it's annoying.

>>90665820
>>>/a/

>>90671599
>a strong director who will actually put her foot down
She's the one wanting this

Reminder. Snyder was better than whatever the fuck we have now.

Nothing like this would have happened under his watch

>>90666463
I don't get it, they used to show lego and wabbit in the morning, thats not there anymore? not that I liked either, but damn, nothing but TTG why even buy cable?

>>90665686
>worrying about a show schedule of a channel that broadcasts cartoons for kids
Really makes you think...

I feel like SU is in a really weird place right now.

I figured the fucky schedule and declining ratings basically announced that the show was getting canned. But they just announced a fucking console game for it, I don't really get what they're doing.

>>90671650
Some bitch on her period, literally.

>>90671570
After Ben leaves Gumball will become CN's Spongebob. It will air non stop and eventually the new episodes will lower in quality.

>>90671765
SU is in the exact same position as most CN shows, except it still gets occasional reruns, ads, and enough care for a console game.

>>90671739
>why even buy cable
Because these are YOUR NEW FAVORITE SHOWS

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>>90671758

>/co/ - Comics & Cartoons
>Caring about cartoons

wow what a fucking concept

>>90669960
Are Networks just min-maxing the fuck out of their schedules for advertising reasons?

There's a ton of variety in that lineup. If some kid sits down and doesn't like Johnny Bravo he's waiting maybe 15 minutes before another show comes on to catch his interest.
Now if you plop a kid in front of the TV and they don't like TTG, they're going to change the channel once they realize there's 3 hours of it before a different show comes on.

It's like they're begging for kids to either fall in line or change the channel

>>90671191
It's simple really- a combination of aging executives that value their immediate profits over anything else, the cartoon market being oversaturated and only getting worse, and the fact that cartoons are not first in line for children/tween's attention anymore.

The old, out of touch executives want the safest and smallest investment to result in good profits, with no down time. Why? Because they'll be retiring relatively soon and want THEIR profit nest as big as possible. They couldn't care less about the financial health of the company beyond what it means for their paychecks.

As for the cartoon ecosystem, kids these days have near unlimited access to the internet with its extensive library of shows from the last few decades. Thus, their pool of shows to watch is many times larger than what was airing on television 15 years ago. Any new show airing now has to compete for attention with older properties that have easier access, more content, and usually better quality due to being created in a time of high competition. It's akin to the problem of ageless immortals- they'll always be that much more experienced than those that came afterwards.

Finally, kids just don't watch cartoons in the numbers they used to. Gaming has only gotten more popular and easier to get into. Streaming and YouTube 'personalities' simulate the feeling of having friends to such a degree that simply watching and listening to them is enough for a lot of kids. Add in the fact that while a cartoon takes months of work and thousands of dollars to produce 11 minutes of content, anyone with a webcam or a phone (so everyone) can easily produce many times more content DAILY.

Is teen titan's go really saving the network?

>>90671968
Duh, dude

>>90671968
For their immediate profits? Yes.

For survival of the network? No.

>>90671968

Not really saving them, just keeping them afloat

>>90671968
See >>90671026 . The ratings are in the toilet, and even Teen Titans Go is only averaging a level of ratings that would've been considered low a few years ago.

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>>90670249
tumblr universe draws better than that yet it's not even airing

really activates my almonds

>>90666432
Latin America CN is shit as well

>>90671931
Kinda curious what CN could do to turn it around, but you're right about the cartoon backlog and gaming, and I hadn't even thought of the youtube content.

I'm actually a little concerned about where traditional cartoons are gonna end up. If something isn't a cheap to produce glorified toy commercial its just not gonna happen anymore.

>>90672106

Peruvian here, how shit is it? I don't watch tv anymore

>>90671923
I think the thing is that kids have more options these days, so instead of trying to attract new viewers they're just trying to hold on to the ones they have left.

If a bad show came on in the '90s, you only had 3 kids networks to choose from. So if Nick was showing Doug, Cartoon Network was showing Smurfs, and Disney was showing... whatever the fuck they used to show back then (I honestly didn't watch Disney much), you were just forced to deal with watching one of those shows until something good came on. Even if you wanted to do something besides TV, there weren't as many options available to you as there are to kids today, what with internet streaming shows and tons of free smartphone games.

Basically what I'm saying is that the networks feel that their only winning move is to constantly marathon one or two specific shows that they know kids like so they won't get bored and find something else to do.

>>90672167
About the same as the US, but with a sprinkle of adventure time and regular show... Now thata think about it, it may not be that shit at least thry air reruns for early 00's cartoons (johnny bravo, dexter's lab...)

>>90672267
How's their boomerang?

>>90665686
Bomb format was a mistake

>>90672307
I don't watch boomerang, but whenever i zap through the channels, there's always the new version shows of Tom and Jerry and Looney Tunes

>>90667789
odds are SU will get renewed for season 6 and 7 It wouldn't make any sense for them to end it by the year with its recent new toys and video game. Really all the show needs to do to pull it around is have Homeworld set up a base (Steven got the Diamonds to not blow up Earth but Yellow is digging up the cluster) so the filter is now about HW gems dealing with Earth shit rather than human only

>>90672307
>>90672413
Also, we have Tooncast, which is all about reruns of all the Hannah-Barbera shows, pretty great

>>90665872

Disney Channel is airing the Tangled show (the pilot movie was actually good). Also Elena Of Avalor is watchable.

They're phasing out the tween sitcoms too apparently. They recently announced they want to start targeting teens instead of tweens.

Starting with 'Andi Mack' which touches on Teen Pregnancy and the sequel to "That's So Raven" which will touch on divorce.

>>90672473
MUH FEMALE STRUGGLES

>>90672473
we're getting a sequel to That's so Raven?

>>90672473
>Teen pregnancy
>Disney

W-what?

>>90672583
Amping up the drama

>>90672473
Andi Mack is pretty good. I watched it on Disney YouTube channel. It's really different from other Disney shows.

>>90672473
Surely you jesteth

>>90672622
It's also On Demand and Disney's app.

>>90665820
It's a new chart, showing the schedule for the next week.

The OP does a service for the /co/mmunity.

>>90672307
Boomerang LA spams a lot of the same shows and promos over and over again, anything that's really different is Cine Boomerang. Masha and The Bear and The Tom and Jerry Show are spammed the most out of everything.

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>>90665686
>3 more showings of Roderick Rules

WHY IS IT ALWAYS THIS OR CAT IN THE HAT THE PAST MONTH OR SO?!?!?!

Meanwhile, tomorrow's schedule on CN Japan has
>The Pink Panther Show
>Regular Show
>The Garfield Show
>Tom & Jerry
>Hana Kappa
>Uncle Grandpa
>Clarence
>Teen Titans Go
>Gumball
>Steven Universe
>NuPPG
>Tom & Jerry Kids
>The Looney Tunes Show
>Baby Looney Tunes
>Thomas & Friends
>Pingu
>Adventure Time
>Foster's Home
>Mr. Bean: The Animated Series
>Ben 10 (I think this is the new series, it's part of a compilation show)
>Eagle Talon
>Slayers
>Ninku
>The Batman
>Mio Mao
>Hilltop Hospital
>Pim & Pom

Damn it, even the westaboos are getting a better deal than us.

>>90673002

Because it's practically free for them to air.

>>90669562
Seriously though, what the fuck is happening to CN?

Was there a leadership change? Is this a hostile takeover?

>>90673209
Isn't there like hundreds of movies and shows they can air for free. Why not show those instead

>>90673705
Yes, between Turner and Warner Bros, they have access to the largest animation library in the world. They just don't care.

>>90672550

Yes
http://www.eonline.com/au/news/805105/that-s-so-raven-spinoff-happening-at-disney-channel-and-raven-symone-is-starring

SpoilerTV revealed character info:
http://www.spoilertv.com/2017/01/thats-so-raven-spin-off-info-and.html

Raven and Chelsea have both divorced their husbands and move in together with their kids. Shortly after, Raven's daughter develops the psychic power that Raven had in the original show.

>>90672473
>the sequel to "That's So Raven" which will touch on divorce.
Raven's children will have an absent black dad? Sheeeeeeeeet

>>90672632

Nope. The head of Disney Channel apparently wants to combat low ratings by turning Disney Channel into a teen network to fill the void ABC Family left (since Freeform has crashed in ratings).

They approached Terri Minsky who created Lizzie McGuire to do a more mature teen show for them. It's meant to usher in a new era for Disney Channel.

They haven't mentioned if that plan also includes cartoons or not. Hopefully we'll hear about some in development at their upfronts.

>>90672583

Andi is a 13 year old girl who lives with her parents when her rebellious sister Bex returns to shake things up.

Shortly after Bex returns, It's revealed that Bex is really Andi's mum. Bex gave birth to Andi as a young teenager, the people she's been calling mum and dad are really her grandparents.

Bex and her parents know who the father is, but they refuse to let Andi find out.

Meanwhile her 2 friends are also facing issues of their own. Her black friend is questioning her place in life while her guy friend is questioning his sexuality.

If we're lucky, this will take off and Disney will look into some older targeted animated shows.

>>90674928

I really do not know how to feel about this

At all

>>90665686
It must be because cartoons are for children

>>90669960

>2001 was 16 years ago

I want to go back.

>>90674928
wew

of all the entertaiment companies, disney was the least expected to do something like this

>>90674973
>>90675174

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/10/arts/television/kids-are-getting-older-quicker-and-disney-tries-to-adapt.html

Further reading about it.

>>90674928
Freeform crashed in ratings? What're their plans for that network now?

Also I know more than one person who've had that Andi Mack thing happen to them in real life. Interesting that it's a thing on Disney now.

>>90675247
>Freeform crashed in ratings? What're their plans for that network now?

http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/freeform-tv-show-ratings-33382/

They're throwing shit at the wall to find something that sticks. They had very high hopes that Shadowhunters would be their new Pretty Little Liars, but it's being beaten by The Fosters of all things.

>Also I know more than one person who've had that Andi Mack thing happen to them in real life
The creator got the idea after reading about Jack Nicholson. It happened to him.

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>>90665686
>mighty magiswords
>0%

FUCK YOU CARTOON NETWORK MAGISWORDS HAS POTENTIAL

>>90675350
I'd much rather watch it than TTG

>>90675347
It's more common than I thought then. It's happened to a couple of friends of mine.

I wonder if they're going to push Freeform in an all-new direction. And I wonder if that direction could involve animation.

>>90675416
>I wonder if they're going to push Freeform in an all-new direction. And I wonder if that direction could involve animation.

They seem to be torn between turning it into a comedy network or a sci-fi type Superhero network.

Most of the stuff they have in development falls into the 2 categories.

Eg they have a comedy about the life of Nicki Minaj in development. But they also have Cloak & Dagger coming along with an American remake of Misfits.

Who's even watching CN? Most kids watch stuff online.

>>90675507
An American remake of Misfits could work if they don't overly sanitize it or try too hard to copy the UK version. But they will. So the idea was always garbage.

Hope good tv can survive this dramatic transition the entire medium seems to be going through. Or more like I hope good American episodic and serialized animation can survive.

>>90675634
post source

don't just assume kids do the same thing your neckbeard ass does.

>>90675710
Cartoon Network is aimed at ages 7-11. The "kids" people refer to when they say things like that are generally middle schoolers, to which only a fraction can even be counted as being in the target audience.

>>90665686
what the fuck
how does this even happen

is tv really dead?

>>90675865
>>90675865
God how wish we could just replace all of CN's old execs with ones in their 20s or something, it couldnt POSSIBLY be worse than what we have now.

>>90675865
>is tv really dead?

Just CN.

Nickelodeon isn't as bad yet but they don't seem to be improving.

Disney and Disney XD are trying to improve.

>>90672262
I don't have any kids I interact with a lot, but I hear people talk about younger siblings and cousins and they just will watch Minecraft LPs and shit like that. Just nonstop.

I saw an ad on the side of the bus for some unlimited data service saying it gives you 'more bingeing.' It made me realize that prior to a few years ago I had never heard the word 'binge' used with a positive connotation. Now 'binge' is a great marketing word to sell your service with!

For decades we've heard the lament of 'limited attention spans,' so perhaps we now see committing an almost unhealthy amount of time to absorbing just one thing is the obvious good. Maybe CN is trying to mimic that in some way.

>>90674625
>Raven and Chelsea have both divorced their husbands
Very fucking progressive, hate those men right?

>>90676292
How old are the "kids" you're talking about?

>>90676343
Like kid kids. 10 and under.

>>90676312
>Very fucking progressive, hate those men right?

The reason for Raven's divorce hasn't leaked yet. But her ex's name was David.

But it's leaked that Chelsea's husband was named Garret. He was cheating on her with a federal agent. So at least Chelsea's makes some sense.

>>90676437
>at least Chelsea's makes some sense.
It was obvious there was going to be reasons, and that those reasons were the guys being mean

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>>90669923
I get that UG isn't everyone's favorite cartoon but of all the cartoons they had did it really have to be pared with fucking Supernoobs

Can adultswim just take over the whole channel already? Fuck.

Just sell TTG and Gumball to Disney or something.

>>90676515
I kinda think Nick when I think them, maybe Gumball less

>>90676515
I wanna see the people of AS run Cartoon Network

I don't know if Lazzo could save it, but he was around when 90's CN was a thing

>>90676515
From what I hear LA and Atlanta don't see eye to eye. And Williams Street further complicates things by not really having to answer to either despite being in Atlanta. But I don't have the full lay of the land when it comes to internal politics for CN/AS. Anyone with more information can feel free to step in here.

Name one (1) good reason [as] shouldn't become it's own channel and let CN have night slots for older/transitional reruns.

>>90676886
Toonami fags being butthurt are the only rebuttals I've ever seen.

>>90674928
>>90675202
So apparently Disney Channel pulled off a Secret Life of the American Teenager, but on a TV-G level?

>>90676977

Pretty much, and it's actually watchable.

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>>90669960
So basically you have to sit through half a day of Hanna Barbera shit just to get to the originals. And I thought those "what nostalgiafags act like CN was" troll pics were exaggerations.

Someone really needs to take over management of CN already. This is awful.

>>90665686

Christ they're going to be another G4 at this rate.

>>90665686
WHAT A MESS OUR LIVES TURNED OUT TO BE

>>90675350
I thought it was kinda silly at first, but I really warmed up to it and it's Slayers-ish ways.
CN completely disregarding it like this is pretty shitty of them.

>>90669447
Shmorky please leave

>>90677868
>CN completely disregarding it like this is pretty shitty of them.
agreed even though I hate it

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>post yfw adventure time and regular show move to boomerang

>>90672307
>tfw wanted to watch boomerang to escape CN's shitty wimpy kid movie
>they're playing TTG
it's like I can't escape it

The amount of fucking Teen Titans Go! they air every fucking day is just ridiculous.

>>90669622
its hiatus end even got pushed back to April

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>>90677914
MAKE WAY TO START THE REVOLUTION

>>90665686
>>90665784
>1 Half Hour of Powerpuff Girls
>Can't even be bothered to promote new episodes
I'm conflicted. On the one hand obviously the new show is bad so I really don't give a shit if it gets exposure. On the other hand I feel bad seeing such a pillar of my youth laid low. I mean Teen Titans Go is a bastardization of it's source material as well but at least it manages to get a couple chuckles out of me. NeoPPG is... it's just sad.

>>90677914
beats nothing, but it'd be a sign at how far things have fallen

>>90678031
>>Can't even be bothered to promote new episodes
they are promoted

>It's 5 am here
>Watching Johnny Bravo and EE&E afterwards.
>Commercials came on, showing ads about
>Supernoobs
>Transformers
>That new Ben 10 coming up in April
>A new episode of Regular show
>A CN bumper by Liniers
>Now they are showing Courage

That's CN Latinoamerica, the most watched cable channel in the country right now. Out of the top 10 channels in cable, 6 are children oriented channels. It always has been that way, and it's the same in the rest of the continent where kids programing are the kings of cable.

I don't know what's the issue with US cable, CN here receives the same shows, watched by almost the same kids, with better programming and better ratings.

>>90671634
Sugar is too much of a pussy to shoot down any of the shit ideas her crew comes up with because she doesn't want to hurt their feelings. That's how Zuke derailed the show for her ship.

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>>90678277
>>A new episode of Regular show

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>>90665686
What makes this really funny is that if this network didn't do this, it would have need to exit the cartoon market or warp into something else much sooner.
In a way, it's like drugging a dying patient to keep them alive, just to get those final moments before everything goes into hell.

Do the people that run CN even care about the network anymore? With half the network's airing time being a single show with a sprinkling of two other shows and one movie aired four times, it just seems that way.

>>90678494
Of course they care. They need the network to stay alive as long as it can for that dollar they desperately crave.

>>90678696
I guess in more of a creative sense I guess. If this spattering of shows is still making them money somehow, I guess they don't need to stop.
It's just shit for all the other shows that aren't getting any time to shine.

>>90678709
>It's just shit for all the other shows that aren't getting any time to shine.
and for people with taste

>172 slots for TTG
>172 individual episodes have aired

They are literally just waiting until they have enough episodes so each slot can be a different episode of Go.

>>90678747
>every week becomes the Thanksgiving TTG Marathon for the rest of eternity
FUCK

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>>90665686
This is a joke, what the hell happened to diversity? They're practically shooting themselves in the foot at this point.

>>90678709
That's another problem. Creators wouldn't have been able to make their cartoons if wasn't for TTGO being the pillar than keeps everything together.
When you see a cartoon on CN, remember that TTGO is the main reason why it is there in the first place.

>>90665820
>f/a/ggot spamming a "GO BACK 2 LE LEDDIT" catchphrase

Autistic nigger.

>>90678789
Yea, after 2015

>>90669923
What site do you post these to?

>>90678875
Look at the images harder, fag

>>90672473
>>90674928
Fucking what? This shit belongs on ABC, not Disney Channel.

>>90665686
I guess this is what's profitable, but doesn't so little variety put them at a disadvantage compared to their competition?

I'll admit I haven't had CN in over a decade, but in my mind I remembered it as the "different cartoon every half hour" channel.

>>90678961

On one hand having so little variety keeps your stock of viewers consistent, and consistency is what makes you money even if in the long term it's shitty to have all your eggs in one or two baskets.

On the other, I guess it's a model to show the other companies what not to do and to keep trying to diversify their assets. You never know what'll be the next big thing(fucking ponies and shit who would've guessed THAT one?)

This has to be actively sabotaging the network, aren't they loosing loads by putting tons of money into the production of many shows but then not airing them at all which could give back some profit, or if the comeback is low, soften the blow of a loss beyond just giving it 0 airings?

And the same goes for purposefully airing new episodes with little to no promotion.

>>90665686
Improvement!

>>90671629
There is nothing wrong with using anime reaction image, newfag

>>90665686
https://www.change.org/p/cartoon-network-limit-the-number-of-times-teen-titans-go-and-other-current-toon-shows-in-the-lineup-are-aired-during-a-weekday-weekend

>>90665686
Every time I see these they're somehow worse

One of these days it's just going to be all yellow

>>90669562
You mean CAT IN THE HAT IN NAME ONLY? (CITHINO) Staring Mikel Myers

>>90670672
>J. M. Dematteis

JLI writer is writing Scooby?

>>90673186
>Pingu
Are you fucking serious

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>>90672473
>Starting with 'Andi Mack' which touches on Teen Pregnancy and the sequel to "That's So Raven" which will touch on divorce.

>>90675350
It's horrible, the humor is the same as TTG

The last time CN was good, they were making episodes of Flapjack, Chowder, and Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends.

>>90679538
That was like 10 years ago

>>90673186
We have similar scheduele in Poland (still alot of TTG but its in reasonable number). It also take 24 hours a day because no things like Adult Swim

>>90679538
>The last time CN was good
arguably early AT and RS

>>90665820
Ooga booga, back to /a/

>>90678875
literally at the bottom but i guess if you want to click it http://cnschedulearchive.tumblr.com/

>>90679615
You know that anime reaction images are allowed, newfag

>>90679678
Reminder here you can't click links.

>>90679598
Early AT and RS was a great time.

>>90679690
oh yeah. used to appchanx.

>>90679697
literally the last things i remember enjoying in life

Jack being back is kinda working on it, but I was never 100% big on it, I just like it.

>>90679714
Back when I actually downloaded the weekly S1 AT episodes. Everyone losing their shit over the apple pie elephant blowing up was great.

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I am so fucking confused. I look to the side and see all of those shows they could be airing, but just flat out won't. Why? I mean, I know why, ratings and shit. But existentially, why. Why has this happened? Why is this happening? Why will it continue to happen?

>>90679730
Wish I could've seen the reactions back then, I've only looked at AT talkback threads since maybe 3 years ago, since I occasionally watch it when I have nothing else to do.

Moreso back then than now.

>>90679775
Teen Titans Go! gets more then enough child watchers to be profitable for them.
If they could, they'd just turn CN into the TTG! channel. Gumball and this Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs TV series are lucky they haven't been chopped away either.

>>90679775
Cheap to animate, easy to market, and can have an almost infinite amount of scripts for episodes. Thus, making it easy to market and generates over a million views per episode.

This takes up literally over 50% of the schedule, no wonder it's the most viewed show because they recycle the same episodes over and over again. Something this recyclable will generate them a lot of money in the short run, but will bite them in the ass HARD in the long run.

That, or it'll be Spongelodeon 2.0, I certainly hope for the former so CN gets a renaissance age yet again like they did 7 years ago with Adventure Time.

For anyone thinking it's coming to TTG all day every day, I think there's a contract thing where you can't air one single series, I mean not more than maybe a few days for an event or something. Longer than that requires special permission, like if the special event has to last for a bit.

Plus CN likes to pat themselves on the back for technically having a variety.

>>90679839
>Adventure Time
and others

>>90679839
It's always been one or two shows which bring the channel out of a slump. Back in the day it was Chowder and Flapjack, then it was Adventure Time and Regular Show.

Though out of all of them, I still liked Flapjack the most.

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The did the sme thing with Johnny Test.

>Take a cheap show
>Let it take over the schedule
>Run it into the ground so hard the feel the lava
>dig out of the hole
>Air new shows
>Find a new cheap show
>Repeat

Kind of sad we're doing this a second time but maybe there won't be a third go around.

>>90672531
this is my fight song

>>90679983
Honestly I don't give a shit at this point if CN dies. It's on life support.

>>90671075
Regular Show stopped getting lots of 2 millions in 2015, when they started shitting on it really bad.

is there any news on infinity train? i saw the clip cn posted a couple months ago and it looked like it had potential.

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This is scary, it's like literal brainwashing

>>90680279
>strong and smart female main character series
>not getting picked up in the era of feminism and WOMYN'S ATTENTION

>>90677801
Except you don't?

>>90677801
The Hannah Barbara stuff was usually on during school or what have you. Kids would be more likely to see network originals.

>>90680348
"Liking books" and "wearing glasses" doesn't equal being "strong and smart". Besides, it was painfully obvious that the series was going to have her learn to communicate with others and find out that friendships > knowledge.
Because God forbid anyone in modern Western culture ever wins because they're genuinely strong and smart, and not because of power of their friendship or plot armor. I mean, a character like that would be just mean-spirited and impossible to relate to, riiiight?

>>90665686
The really sad thing is, none of those three shows are produced by Cartoon Network Studios US.

TTG is Warner Bros, Gumball is Cartoon Network Studios UK and Meatballs is by DHX Media.

>>90679538
Those shows were like rays of light in the darkness when they were all airing together. That was in the midst of the CN Real push and the only other cartoon airing was fucking Chop Socky Chooks. The last time CN was good was right before then, and even then it was starting to slide a bit compared to the period from 2001-2005.

>>90680348
nuPPG was their attempt to attract a larger female audience. They probably gave up after they failed.

>>90680497
>it was painfully obvious that the series was going to have her learn to communicate with others and find out that friendships > knowledge
That reminds me of a certain show that must never be named.

>>90678316
At least she managed to send her ass packing once the LapiDot shit got out of control. Like, the damage is still done but at least she did this much.

Goddamnit, that's still god awfull though...

>>90681633
Too little, too late.

The show stopped being good in season one, and stopped even being tolerable once they deleted Jasper, a.k.a. the only credible threat.

I mean at least Gumball is good 75% of the time?