So how the fuck does Bane stand a chance?

Venom is a fierce opponent. His sheer force aided by his superhuman agility and a killer instinct is already a problem, but his regeneration skills that come with the symbiote are of the highest caliber and his, not to mention he can use webbing, wall-crawling, spider-sense and basically do anything a spider-man can.

On the other hand, Bane is a big guy.

>>90593539
He doesn't. No matter how anyone tries to set it up.

>>90593730
>On the other hand, Bane is a big guy.
Shit i forgot.

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he cant, doesnt, wont.

What's the theme of this matchup? Similar looking faces?

>>90593803
Big guys that both use "Venom"

>>90593539
He doesn't. Even with prep and knowing his weaknesses, Bane would die. Badly.

Venom shrugs off the Human Torch and Sonic Guns made by Mister Fantastic. Bane is fucked in anyway imaginable.

The thought process for this battle must not have gone farther than

>Well Bane uses VENOM. Get it?

Dumb battle. Mismatch.

>>90593803
both big guys that are kinda the anti version of their respective title hero, and venom

I don't blame them for giving Venom an easy victory.

Does Bane's venom make his vocal cords swole? Cause if it does he could yell real loud and...

...yeah he's fucked.

>>90593803
They're both big and muscly I guess.

It doesn't really matter. Death Battle takes the most surface level understanding of two popular characters then decides the "winner" for the dumbest reason possible, like Sonic would beat Flash because Flash would poke his eyes out on Sonic's spines or something.

Watch Bane win because the symbiote tries to take his body but Bane throws it off because something something "unbreakable will"

>>90593539
Memes

>>90593730
Well depending on which version (movie is the version I am talking about) has been known to be a level 300 /tv/ wizard. Harnessing thee most powerful of meme magic to either boost his size (making him a bigger guy), speed and give him magic like powers

>>90593539
Bane is a smart guy and could rig up a sonic projector or incindiary or some shit

>>90593539
Bane is smarter and we don't know how Venom would react to venom.

>>90593838
>Venom shrugs off the Human Torch and Sonic Guns made by Mister Fantastic.

When did this happen? I admit to not being up to date on Venom but the recent story times here on /co/ showed Agent Venom's suit writhing to Hobgoblin using a sonic shriek at him as well as it offering next to no resistance to a flaming sword.

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>>90594329
Amazing Spider-man 362

1/4

>>90593539
Those death battle announcers are ear cancer. How can anyone stand listening to those faggots?

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>>90594405
2/4

>>90594405
He didn't shrug it off, he flat out says it's ripping him apart. He just dug deep and powered through the pain. There's a difference.

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>>90594428
3/4

>>90594158
>"Dood, Tails can move this gag sprite that has 10 tons written on it. Tails totally has Hulk strength!"

Death Battle is fucking retarded clickbait.

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>>90594458
4/4
If both Spider-man and Human Torch can't exploit his weaknesses enough to fully beat him, what chance does Bane have?

>>90594495
He got completely shut down by that second sonic blast. With the first he had the chance to connect a hit because he was already moving forward to attack spider-man when he got blasted, inertia took care of the rest. As for Torch, he wasn't directly attacking Venom, just trying to make a fire cage, which would do jack shit compared to actually stabbing a flaming sword onto him.

None of this is showing him "shrugging off" anything.

>>90593730
Imagine... VenomCIA aganist Bane.

>>90593539
>>90593730
>>90593763
>>90593838
Deathbattle looks at all sources unless directly contradicted by primary canon. This means Titan formula Bane is in, plus BTAS Bane who crushed the Batmobile with his bare hands.

>>90594158
Aw, which of the losers was your husbando? DB does extensive research, just look at the tiny details they had to fight for Hulk/Doomsday or Gaara/Toph.

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>>90594495
To be fair, Venom has been punched into defeat by Ben Reilly. In Exile Returns Ben just straight up beat the shit out of him. No fire or sonics, he just kept hitting Venom until Venom couldn't get up anymore.

Another reason why Been is the superior Spider-Man.

>>90594669
Awww don't bait me man, I haven't even had a drink yet

>>90593539
>Caring about this casual garbage made by casuals

>>90594887
In my experience, 90% of the people who don;t like Deathbattle simply fail to understand the rules they use. They only care about a character's BEST. Even if it only happened once. BEST, not CONSISTENT. That's why the infinite book was counted, once is enough. And as long as they apply that rule to every character, it's fair. You can not LIKE that rule all you want, that's fine. But that doesn't make them WRONG to use it, not so long as they apply it equally.

>>90593730
>On the other hand, Bane is a big guy.

Casual confirmed.

Bane is a genius with an intellect and resourcefulness that nearly rivals that of Batman (who, remember, he's come closer to beating than arguably any other villain.) Bane is the first villain to ever deduce Batman's true identity via his own deduction. He's already super-strong, but he's won fights against much stronger opponents by deducing their weaknesses. And Venom has a HUGE weakness that isn't hard to exploit once you know what it is.

>>90594967
Toph can't see or use sand. Even at her best, she cannot see or use sand. At no point can she ever see or use sand. She wins because she sees and uses sand. At what fucking point are you ignoring established material just to predetermine some cherrypicked BEST version of a character?

>>90595085
In season 3 they made a point of showing she had improved her sandbending, she could make an entire scale model of Ba Sing Se with one stomp. At what point do you stop conveniently forgetting established material?

>>90594967
In that case, they better have a Venom that can hurt the Juggernaut, Tank a punch from the Hulk, go invisible, Beat the shit out of Ghost Rider, and murder someone through a phone.

>>90593539
he has a small countries and mercenery armies worth of resources

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>>90594495
He didn't "shrug them off." Spidey and Torch WON that fight. Brock was completely vulnerable long enough for Peter to talk to him. He'd wanted to, Peter could have knocked Brock out right there; at the moment, he was just a normal guy with no powers or weapons.

Bane wouldn't show the kind of mercy Peter did; he's strong enough to shatter someone's skull with one punch, and he'd have no reason to hold back against Brock. Peter says Eddie has "seconds" to recover. Bane has never needed that much time to kill a normal man.

>>90594669
Death Battle is clickbait, there were multiple instances of them favoring a character against the other, they use power level internet fights to promote themselves

inb4 muh superman vs goku

>>90594967
>They only care about a character's BEST
Link Vs Cloud was all the Links vs a shitty Cloud, Tracer Vs Scout ignored Tracer's limitations while Scout didn't even used his full potential

Its clickbait with poor research, its for power levels what MattPatt is for theories

>>90595328
Okay, name one then.

>>90595083
Yeah but eddie isn't exactly a retard either, I mean he is insane and depravd at worst and an action movie hero at best

>>90595083
That's what I've been thinking, too.

I'm not expert on comic lore for DC or Marvel (if there are additions or mistakes, feel free to correct me), but here are some strengths and weaknesses I gather from the two.

Venom:
+Can replicate Spider-Man's webbing abilities
+Incredibly strong
+Incredible speed and endurance
+Healing factor
-Weak to fire and sonic attacks
-Symbiote needs a host

Bane:
+Incredibly strong and fast
+Genius intellect (managed to figure out Batman's true identity)
+Venom serum makes him insanely powerful
-Dependent on venom (makes him reckless)

Knowing DeathBattle, I think they'll disregard Bane's intellect and deducing capabilities by saying it took him awhile to figure out Batman's identity, and probably can't do so in the middle of a fight.

>>90595374
No, they also said in games with player customized arsenals they use gear the players don't choose, they specifically mentioned Dissidia and other fighting games for Cloud. Pay attention next time.

As for Tracer, the fight animation is and always was made to be fun to watch, it's not supposed to be 100% accurate about their abilities. Another thing they said years ago.

>>90595378
Tracer vs Scout

There's no fesable way she has that much health

Venom is going to win by entering Bane's Venom tubes and exploding him from inside his veins, cap this shit.

>>90595523
See >>90595434

>>90595404

>Venom:
>+Incredibly strong
>+Incredible speed and endurance

>Bane:
>+Incredibly strong and fast

what you fail to mention is that while Bane is a superhumanly strong and fast guy, Venom is
on a whole different , several magnituds greater tier

>>90593539
I'm not sure how this is a fair fight.

Bane has done some absurd shit like punch through metal/concrete and stop bullets, but Venom has done all that shit too plus he can morph into pretty sharp things I'm sure could cut bane. Not to mention webbing, and the Symbiote makes it pretty hard to "kill" Eddie traditionally.

This is going to be as lopsided as Tracer vs Scout.

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>>90595434
>>90595555
>it's not supposed to be 100% accurate about their abilities

Yes it fucking is. What's the fucking point of comparing things when it's not accurate

Venom wouldn't stand a chance. I have no idea why he has so many fanboys.

>>90595619
What are Tracer's limitations? You DO realize the game isn't cannon to lore, right?

>>90595566
And the venom does nothing for Bane?

>>90593539
Fuking Joker beat twiste metal clown. That's how

>>90595669
That's with the venom drug.

Bane is like a 2 tonner.

Venom is like 25-50 ton tier.

>>90595656
The video showed Tarcer using all her abilities from the cinematics, while Scout's stuck with the things he gets in game (and doesn't even use all of them).

>>90595710
This, and even if we go with peak showings Venom got wanked so much it could put Doomfags to shame.
>tfw DB brings up Venom punching Supes

>>90595619
Is it? Skip to 2:37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibpAARbYPh0

That's how they've done thing literally from the beginning, don't get pissy because you didn't know better.

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welp, let's figure this out, then

http://www.strawpoll.me/12503923

Remember when Starscream singlehandedly caused genocide and became god with his intellect? Ben doesn't.

>>90595719
They also used Scout's feats from comics, didn't they?

Spider-Man killed Batman

Bigger Spider-Man kills.bigger Batman

If they say otherwise then it's bullshit

>>90595083
Fucking casual.

Venom is stronger and faster than Spider-Man who soloed a herald of Galactus. Bane doesn't stand a chance.

These characters exist on entirely different power levels and shouldn't be compared.

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>>90593539

>>90596372
And Bane is faster and stronger than Batman who, by proxy of the stupidity that is Babel and directly in Endgame, beat the rest of the Justice League. What's your point, exactly?

>>90597231
Batman's plans in Babel had been altered by Ra's, and his Superman plan was a complete failure, it only made him stronger and had no effect on his control. In Endgame his armor was easily beaten down by a Jokerized Superman. So, Batman, beat the League? Never happened.

>>90597440
>t only made him stronger and had no effect on his control.

It did though, that's why you had Superman doing his best weeping Indian impersonation.

> In Endgame his armor was easily beaten down by a Jokerized Superman.

It took Superman burying him in a pile of rubble, punching him out from an underground tunnel out into the open streets, dropping a building on him as well as using heat vision to melt his red sun and shield gauntlets, and the suit was still relatively intact after that. That hardly counts as "easily beaten down".

Even then, Batman beat him by spitting in his face.

>>90593730
nice anon

>>90597751
>It did though
Yes, that's why he wasn't able to perform spinal surgery on the flash with heat vision while he as stuck vibrating at the speed of light, right? Oh wait...

>it took Superman
You mean Superman can use his brain and overcome someone using his weaknesses against him? Wow. Also, Batman still lost.

>>90598208
>every single thing Superman did involved punching the crap out of Batman
>used his brain

Anon, surely you can't be this dumb.

I tho they were buddies

>>90598334
>buried him
>surprise attack
>dropped a building on him
>destroyed the red sun knuckles
>all while Jokerized
Yes, what an unthinking brute.

>>90598501
>buried him
Yes, by slamming some massive pillar on him. That's less intelligence and more the effect of just concrete breaking up on his "justice buster"
>surprise attack
Wasn't really a surprise, Bruce was already running the scenarios in his mind and hoping it wasn't him

>all while Jokerized
Joker venom has never been shown to make anyone stupid. Throughout media it's several incarnations involve making people have hysterical fits of laughter, yellowed teeth, even the trademark grin that Joker has. In some situations it leads to death, others just an uncontrollable laughing condition until Batman gets them a cure. In endgame's case, it was making them assault Batman, but never was it displayed to make them dumb.

>>90597231
You can't be this stupid. Batman's preptime is irrelevant to Bane's power. Spider-Man soloed a herald using brute force, no tricks. Venom is stronger than that.

Bane has the strength of a child compared to Venom.

>>90593539
Venom has
>+higher strength
>+higher speed
>+camouflage
>+shapeshifting
>+claws & teeth
>+low level mind control
>+above average intelligence
>-fire weakness
>-sonic weakness
>-mental instability

Bane has
>+super strength
>+master planning
>+access to henchmen
>+military tech access
>+access to titan
>-venom dependancy
>-increasing STR reduces INT

Basically its a shoe in for venom, unless bane gets access to a bunch of flamethrowers or sonic weapons. Dont remember how powerful titan is but pretty sure even with brock is still stronger

What happens if you inject Venom into Venom?

>>90601282
>>+access to henchmen
There's no outside assistance allowed in a Death Battle.

Bane is smarter I guess and won't immediately be torn apart once he engages Venom physically so he could probably eke out a win

>>90593803
1.Both are late comers to their heroes rouges gallery intended to be their heroes "ultimate" foe.

2. Both are essentially their hero but bigger, stronger, meaner. They inspired the Marvel Movie trend to make almost every movie villain this way.

3. Both initially kicked their hero's ass.

4. Both power themselves beyond what the hero can do by bonding with a substance that gives them great power at a great cost.

5. Both can be beaten by exploiting their reliance on their magic juice (cutting venom tubes or using fire/sonics)

6. Both had anti-hero phases (Lethal Protector and Suicide Squad)

It's not a fair matchup but they do have similar themes.

Only normies think they don't have anything in common.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTQeHeWT9y4

>>90593539
He doesn't. The Death Battle team isn't interested in fair fights unless they think they'll get them more clicks.

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>>90598955
Here, you're running out.

>>90594967
>Best not Consistent
>Whines about lifting book of limbo

All they had to do was say "Grant Morrison Superman". He's consistently powerful enough to kill Goku. Eating the anti-sun heart of a dark god that killed a planet of super-superhumans is a low end feat he has.

the fight will favor bane but eddie will end up cutting banes vemon tube in the last 10 seconds causing bane to job and odds are be cut in half or something edgier

srsly cap this

>>90595842
They clearly never read the comics.

You have to remember they're super casuals. Ben actually thinks "fights are more important than family" Goku is more human and relatable than Superman "because Goku has to work to be strong and Superman doesn't".

Think about that.

Give Bane flamethrowers. Give Bane boom boxes. It's only going to delay the inevitable.

Venom is too fast, too strong, and has 360 vision through the symbiote emulating Spidey-Sense.

Bane's one prayer is to ambush him with naplam, and that's less likely than Venom getting the drop on him and eating his brains.

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I want this death battle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFm982JyE4A

How did /co/ react to this?

>>90602036
This and:

Spectre vs Ghost Rider

Dr. Fate vs Dr. Strange

Atom vs Whatever Pym is calling himself these days

Cheetah vs Tigra

Captain Marvel (Billy) vs Captain Marvel (Mar-vel)

Wonder Woman vs Captain Marvel (Yas Queen)

Az-Bats vs Ben Reiley

Red Hood vs Punisher

>>90602102
The result is accurate in that Raiden can just cut and cut until there's nothing but bones and cut anything that regenerates to earn the ko or find a pool of water to drown him in.

It's not in that they think the vibra-sword is anything like antartic vibranium.

I remember when Pym used knuckles of that stuff on Ultron. The shear presence of the metal caused metal nearby the melt into puddles. And he still had to beat on Ultron again and again until he finally broke.

Yes, both the vibra-blade and antartic vibranium disrupt magnetic bonds. But that's like saying a butter knife and a chainsaw both cut. If Raiden's sword was on the level of antartic vibranium he would have melted himself into a puddle just by carrying it around.

So they came to the right conclusion but they revealed themselves to be HYPER CASUALS who don't actually read comics.

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>>90602036

>>90602307
Who is that on the left?

>>90602268
>Red Hood vs Punisher
amazed this has not been done yet since it would get a lot of likes and also cause a lot of butthurt

>implying Bane wouldn't steal Venom from Eddie and break Eddie's break afterwards

>>90602322
Azrael

>>90595434
Tracer vs. Scout had one of the fucking worst animations though.

Everyone and their mom knew Flash was going to win Flash vs. Quicksilver, but the animation had the two of them going at high-speed and pulling off crazy maneuvers and Flash's fucking Speedforce finish. Compare to Tracer vs Scout, which had Scout barely moving for the whole thing and both of them barely taking advantage of the environment (which, in both games, is essential for actually playing them well).

>>90595434
That was bullshit then and it's bullshit now. I get why they did it for Link vs. Cloud though. Cloud with summoning spells would have made for a quick and boring match. But if you want an exciting match, then you want Scout with all his weapons.

Oh, and if Bonk and the Homerun taunt are allowed, then so should the M2 Sandman attack. You know, the stun. Which Tracer players are inordinately weak to when McCree does it.

>>90602462
We're all also waiting for that Galactus vs Unicron they promised a long time ago.

I just think Jason vs Frank could be a fun match. And they get to tell casuals about all the cool stuff they've done.

>>90602268
red hood vs punisher was done better already

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAJvKFTO8Qc

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>>90602552

>>90602268
I actually thought Raiden was going to drown Wolverine at the pier that was shown at the beginning of the fight. Would have made more sense if the fight ended that way, though Raiden chopping up Wolverine's skull into little pieces was awesome.

>>90593539
He's a big guy.

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>>90593539
This is Scrooge vs Shovel Knight all over again. Venom is just leagues ahead of Bane. The only reason their fighting is because they have a similar build.

>>90602552

>That was bullshit and its bullshit now

FIGHTS DEATH BATTLE WAS WRONG ABOUT:

1. Wonder Woman vs Rogue (there's no way Rogue would last long enough to even up the power gap with absorption, especially when Wonder Woman has ranged options with the tiara, lariet, and atom-slicing sword. Think when Rogue got her ass kicked by Gladiator but worse)

2. Doom Guy vs Master Chief (Take two MLG players and have them play Halo but make one of them 3 times as fast)

3. Link vs Cloud (A composite Link who exists nowhere and given super strength he doesn't have (the gauntlets only let you move boulders, you don't deal more damage to enemies) vs a gimped Cloud with bad equipment, materia, and no summons)

4. Toph vs Gaara (This was like watching Toph beat Sandman. Just pathetic)

Any I'm forgetting?

>>90602307
"I got a templar in my head" vs "I got an Egyptian God in my head". Nice! Would be cool to watch.

On that note how about Moon Knight vs Yugi

>>90602585
These guys are fun. Casual, but fun. I think Kick-Ass vs Casey Jones was the best fight they've done, very entertaining.

>>90593539
He's a...
*gasp*
Big guy.

>>90602953
Deathstroke could plausibly beat Deadpool even if Deadpool technically wouldnt die

>>90602953
The first half of Season 3 had a lot of questionable results. Dante vs. Bayonetta and Bowser vs. Ganondorf were especially unbelievable thanks to the No Limit Fallacy.

>>90603076
Dante beating Bayonetta is more believable at least

>>90602647
Jeez, now I'm remembering how short the actual animation was. This is, like, one third of the whole thing.

Still, that's only seven seconds of Scout looking like he has a chance. Ten if you count that cock walk he did after he drank the Bonk. And it's Tracer getting caught in a melee fight after she spent the first ten seconds dodging shotgun fire effortlessly.

Any way you slice it, considering some of the other 3D animations they've done, like Meta vs Carolina or Snake vs. Fisher, it's fucking weaksauce.

>>90603100
The animation was great, too.

>>90602953
>Doom Guy vs Master Chief
this is the one that will forever triggered me the most

>>90603053
That's a good point. I think Slade would beat Wade, if only because he's more skilled and all he has to do is keep slicing limbs for the win (incapacitation counts as a win in Death Battle if one can't die, see Star scream vs Forbidden small horse). But I can buy Deadpool winning. It's not like other fights where the result is just bullshit.

>>90603196
>Dante about to be eaten by a summon
>Looks back and gives a "Oh you..." expression

>>90603175
>Snake vs Fisher

That was a great fight to watch. I wish they did more fights involving "teams", because it was really Fisher and Grimm vs Snake and Otacon.

>Meta vs Carolina

That was a weird as fuck fight.

>Two characters from the same universe
>No one in the history of ever requested it

It was more of a "shill for the website" than Tifa vs Yang.

Sometimes Death Battle does get the characters right.

Someone care to explain why Master Chief vs. Doom Guy was wrong?

>>90602953
>2. Doom Guy vs Master Chief (Take two MLG players and have them play Halo but make one of them 3 times as fast)
All the proof I needed to not watch that or anything deathbattle related ever.

I still haven't watched a single episode, but I do come to the threads to watch the drama and salt.

>>90603473
doom guy is really really really really REALLY fucking strong

>>90603473
Doom Guy is a faster Master Chief emptying the BFG at MC and then firing a nigh-infinite amount of rockets once he's done.

The only thing that compares to the BFG is the Spartan Laser and that might as well be a joke weapon give how long it takes to charge.

This isn't even using Doom Slayer Doomguy (it hadn't come out when the fight was made). Doom Slayer Doomguy would literally run over and rip MC's head clean off his shoulders.

>>90594967
Venom once beat up superman in a crossover.

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>>90594428

>>90593539
>Death Battle

They'll find a way to fuck it up. Just like with Dante vs Bayonetta, or Tifa vs Yang.

I prefer Dante as a character, but come the fuck on.

>>90603483
>>90603558
>>90603563
To be fair, most of the really early episodes were complete shit, even compared to the more recent stuff.

Remember Akuma vs Shang Tsung? No, you don't, because it was fucking atrocious.

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When's Sasuke vs Superman?

>>90603697
Literally in the video

>"But didn't Bayo like punch gods across the Solar System?"

>Yeahhhhhh but she's totally just a mortal and will die in a few hits.

Bayo was robbed. It was still fun seeing Bayo fans cry though.

>>90603697
How was Tifa vs Yang wrong? I only know a little about Tifa and nothing about Yang so I'm curious.

>>90593539
Can't the symbiote just take over Bane? Or just crawl down his throat and kill him? I know jack shit about Spider-man.

>>90603847
The symbiote can't control anyone. It's symbiotic relationship. But yes, it could use shape shifting to really fuck Bane up.

>>90593539
He doesn't really in Deathbattle rules, but deathbattle rules are dumb.

Realistically though, Bane is very smart, very patient, and plays the long game. His literal first appearance is about monitoring a target from a far, studying them, learning everything about them, and weakening them indirectly, not even making contact until they were already on death's door.

Venom's a little bit of a dumb ass. He's not a complete moron, and can be crafty at times, but he's far from any kind of tactical genius, and isn't that hard to trick.

What's worse is that he has potent and incredibly easy to exploit weaknesses, and weaknesses that would be easy to determine through study.

Sure if you drop them both into a room with no prior warning and tell them to fight, Venom's obviously going to win, Bane doesn't stand a chance, but that's stacking the odds against Bane to a ridiculous degree. In any more realistic scenarios, of them both being in the same city and wanting each other dead, it would be child's play for Bane to kill Venom. But at that point you're stacking the odds in Bane's favor.

That's the problem with characters who revolve around prep time in death battles, unless you're having them fight another prep timer, you're either stacking the odds in their favor or against, you can't do a fair fight.

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>>90593730

>>90603847
Tehnically yes on both accounts. But depends on the writer. Sometimes venom can control people sometimes not

>>90594967
>what is Tifa vs Yang

>>90603839
Yang literally cannot land a hit on anyone who knows how to dodge.

Tifa has lifted buildings with her hands and fought fucking gods.

They're gonna cuck venom at the last moment regarding his weakness.

>>90602268
>Atom vs Whatever Pym is calling himself these days
With Deathbattle rules, I don't know that this would work too well. They've both been occasionally shown to be able to shrink other people, which is both of their most potentially broken ability, but they can both survive sub-atomic and instantly grow back out of it. And really, I can't think of much of their powers that would be really effective against the other. The only thing I can think is, Pym might be able to grow larger than Palmer? I mean, I only vaguely remember Atom going giant once, I don't really know what the limits are to that, if square-cube has any effect, or if he could just grow infinitely big like Pym sometimes can.

In any event, they're probably too similar in power, and neither really has anything that could put the other down. That I can think of at least. If there is it would likely be some obscure gadget or pym-particle exploit or something that got used like, once.

That raises a point actually, it would probably be more a science-off than anything. In which case, eh, I'd probably give the fight to Pym. He's less consistent, but pulls off the really bullshit pseudo-magic, dimension warping shit with more regularity.

Death Battle has always been biased as shit and only do things based off of 'feats' instead of who would actually win in a fight. It's powerlevel bullshit.

>>90603839
Tifa keeps up with people like Cloud and Vincent and can even hold her own against Sephiroth. Sephiroth has a solar system level attack, and Tifa herself has regularly fought planetary level monsters and has summons that can dish out as much.

It's like pitting a Street Fighter character against a Dragon Ball Z character. Or The Punisher against Wonder Woman. Yang simply doesn't have the potency needed to even stand a ghost of a chance against Tifa.

>>90604697
Feats are more or less HOW you decide who would win in a fight. Otherwise the discussion would get nowhere.

That being said, DB has been bad with feats, most notoriously them having a featless wonder Dig Dug defeat Bomberman.

>>90594817
I thought he used a shitload of web expanding balls to separate Venom from Brock.
Am I thinking of a different Scarlet Spider vs Venom match?

>>90604794
But you're ignoring strategic advantage entirely in that equation, as well as the reliability of said feats. A man with stubby arms, no matter how strong he is, would never win in a fight against Mister Fantastic.

I watched Snake vs Sam (9/10) and Raiden vs Wolverine (7/10). Are any of the other DBs worth watching?

>>90604794
>Dig Dug beats Bomberman

Oh man I forgot about that bullshit.

What the actual fuck? How does a guy that blows up little Booble Bobble monsters with an air hose beat a guy that's liberated planets from galactic conquerors?

I remember them saying that "Bomberman's bombs can hurt himself" but in every boss battle in his games he has remote bombs...

>>90604892
Ratchet & Clank vs. Jak & Daxter and Hulk vs. Doomsday are some of my personal favorites.

>>90604892
Dante vs bayonetta is a treat to watch. Really fun fight

>>90604892
Mega Man vs. Astro Boy's pretty good. Darth Vader vs. Doom is good. And try to avoid any videos that seem particularly short. Those tend to be crappy

>>90604893
Even in bosses where his remote bombs are disabled, that's more or less a non-factor since, surprise surprise, most of his bombs don't insta-kill him in-universe.

>>90605604
Yeah. He has hearts.

Dig Dug just dies when he gets touched.

Death Battle really fucked up there.

>>90595404
>Knowing DeathBattle, I think they'll disregard Bane's intellect and deducing capabilities
The problem with this being a factor in a death battle is that it requires bias on the writers part to arrange circumstances that enhance one character and deter another.

For example, if there was a death battle between two normal people, and Person A throws Person B through a window which turns out to be the window of a gun store, and Person B then picks up a gun and shoots and kills Person A, with the victory being given to Person B for "cunning and opportunism" then it would mean the writers were biased because the gun store and Person B being thrown into it only happened because the writers decided it would happen.

If there is anything in the environment that can be used against Venom then they're being biased against Venom.

>>90601527
Sorry to point out the obvious but not true if their whole thing is having henchman do shit for them like with Eggman vs Dr Wily...though funny thing their canon versions would wind up stopping midway through and become best buds forever.

>>90594636
>>90595323
Right, as soon as Bane gets out his fancy Reed Richards brand sonic cannon powered by the Fantasticar right?

>>90604892
Godzilla vs. Gamera and Robocop vs. Terminator are the two that were done the best in my opinion.

>Unicron vs Galactus still has never happened after 3 years

For everybody citing Bane's intelligence as a factor as in he would have researched Venom and found out the weaknesses of the symbiote....

The entire purpose of a death battle is that it's no prep time, no prior knowledge of one another, period

If Batman knew about Spider-Mans spider sense he would have built some elaborate trap to overload his senses, but that isn't how Death Battle works, that's how plot armor in comics work, and plot armor doesn't apply to these matches

>>90610049
If he can figure out Venom's weaknesses on the fly and successfully disengage long enough to take advantage of them, then yes, he has a chance. And Venom's sensitivity to sound is a bit more potent and noticeable than Spidey's weaknesses.

mfw Deathbattle can't research shit properly.
That Bayo vs Dante was bullshit even a hardcore DMCfag can tell Bayo has better feets everywhere other than maybe reaction time.

>>90611616
The issue with that is that there would need to be something nearby that can let him take advantage of it, I.e finding a bell or something.
And IF he finds a bell that's somewhat bullshit, because that means that he only wins on an IF and DB is treating that as something consistent.

>>90611712
Man, bells are everywhere.

If you just reach behind you and grope for a minute, you'll find, like, six of the fuckers.

>>90611712
spiderman uses scaffolding beams

>>90598955
If Superman was sober and bloodlusted, he would have destroyed the suit and then immedietely sniped batman. For some reason, the joker venom had him gloat over his victory, allowing batman to spit the krypto gum on him. It was dumb

>>90595378
Yang vs. Tifa, when they admitted up-front that they had a horse in the race

>>90602953
>Any I'm forgetting?
Kirby vs. Buu

>>90611911
to be fair Kirby as blackhole level durability.
While Buu could "Destroy the universe" over an extended period of time meaning he's at minimum star level.
But yeah, their rule of not using powerscales is bullshit.

>>90611911
>They let Kirby absorb people left and right.
>They don't let Buu absorb anything because fuck you thats why.

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Venom has a couple glaring weaknesses that can be abused, but he's physically got so much of the edge here Bane is fucked....they'll use the weakness thing in order to fill out the episode and make it seem worthwhile, but anything other than a Venom win would be bullshit

Also, Venom's weaknesses are very inconsistent and depends on the writer/plot, not to mention the fact that over time he seemed to have gained more resistance, but also in general it can be so inconsistant that it can vary between being a one hit K.O that sends the symbiote screaming and running to pretty much to being a temporary nuisance that's almost immediately recovered from

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>>90593539
He's smart.
Venom is weak to sound, which is like being weak to water or wood or the color yellow. A smart normie could beat Venom, Bane's much smarter than a smart normie.

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>>90611995
That dialogue with the dramatic zoom on Hulk's face is absolutely hilarious

Did kids reading that even know what "the clap" was?

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still fucking mad at Sonic vs Mario

>>90612060
Super sonic is really fucking hax desu.

>>90612060
Why? I just re watched it and it makes sense...they all have power ups they can use to counter one another, but at the end of the day, no power ups, Mario is just a guy who can jump high and Sonic has super speed

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>>90612032
The whole comic is pretty hilarious

>>90603076
>>90603100
>>90603196
That quicksilver matches Witchtime thing is crap, if I recall (havent played DMC in quit a bit.) it can be used for like a few seconds even outside gameplay, and unlike Witchtime cant be stacked.

The elephant in the room with 'Venom's got a weakness to fire and sonics' is that without them you can't really beat Venom.

Can you remember a time that Venom was ever just beaten down in a fight? Like, overcome with brute strength and not some sort of trick or variation on 'I figured out how to turn this mundane item into fire/noise'? He is immune to bullets and constantly regenerating. If you hit Venom really hard he will keep coming back. In a crossover comic Superman fought Venom and Venom punched him through a bus, Superman had to get help from Spiderman because nothing he did put Venom to bed, and Spiderman helped by.... bringing a sonic cannon.

>>90603793
God they hype the SHIT out of any character with regen. Wolverine v s Raiden not withstanding but thats excused since Raiden's sword specifically works against that kind of ability.

Like seriously, Bayonetta headbutted a godddamn skyscraper, I think she could blast dante into paste on the ground, regen aint helping shit against straight up bludegeoning force.

(Correct me if Im wrong)

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>>90612268
that fucking clap gets me every time

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>>90612297
Depends on how sick their regen is. Boros got punched to paste and still came back from that

>>90604892
I think the best ones are
>Snake/Fisher
>Robocop/Terminator
>Godzilla/Gamera
>He-Man/Lion-O

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>>90595378
WW vs Rogue.

WW would wreck Rogue in one hit.

>>90612297
Well we don't really know the extent of Dante's Regen.
He's able to tank some pretty solid hits without much damage but the only time we've seen is regen start acting is when sharper weapons are used, in which case he literally shrugs it off as-if nothing happened, the only time we've seen any real damage is against Vergil when they wore eachother out, so it's not a DP-tier Healing factor in that he's immortal and has infinite stamina, but the dude has shugged off some serious hits without much pain.
I'm not very well versed in Bayo so i only know about the skyscraper headbutting, racing that car on foot(?) and the satellite throwing thing. Dante doesn't have any feats that live up those, other than maybe having relative speed since he was able to run fast to create enough friction to ignite, i'm not math-matician but doing that is pretty impressive, even downhill.

>>90612364
that WAS fucking rad.

>>90612364
but....Im fairly certain Dante's is not at THAT level.

>>90612364
I on't think Dantes Regen is that good. atleast it hasn't been shown to be that good. issue with dante is the guy rarely gets pushed to his limits or things like that so it's hard to pin-point shit, That said from what we can tell a Prolonged fight with Vergil managed to tire him.

>>90612551
Here's the thing and Im probably wrong but....Dante has never been sliced only really stabbed...if he had an ARM lopped off and regen it'd back that would be something but getting a huge hole in your chest from a big sword in terms of regen powers in fairly easy to fix.

>>90612588
I don't believe he's had his limbs severed before. He's been impaled a shitload of times, to the point where he pulled himself up from a sword through the hilt, He's also survived a gunshot that did penetrate his head. So his Regen definitely lets him shrug off fatal organ damage, we've never really seen him regenerate full on limbs though, so I can't say for sure. It seems somewhat likely that he can, since healing from vital organs being torn apart and pierced through doesn't seem like a huge step down from growing lost limbs.

>>90612551
Bayonetta's Summon Madama Buttefly did THIS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oZsROvIMmE

>>90612638
That's really impressive. I'm about 90% sure that Dante would either Die, or get knocked too far away from the fight to continue, or just be in too many pieces to regenerate properly.

>>90612619
thats debateable honestly. I'd say it be like...

a car or vehicle getting a huge fucking dent or opening compared to say moderate damage to internal parts.

I still think Bayo's overall physical power would be more than enough to smear Dante against the wall regen be damned. There's a difference to getting hit by someone who can toss a fucking satellite and getting stabbed by a really big sword.

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>>90602268
>Az-Bats vs Ben Reiley

This one I would like to see

>>90612670
yeah and it really irritated me seeing her get one shotted by Dante in DT mode....like fuck off MB is comparable in strength to Bayonetta. You cant compare that Big demon in DMC which had NO FEATS btw to Madama Butterfly. their only similarity is being demons and both are very large.

Genji from Overwatch vs Samurai Jack

my bet....Jack due to experience, his training. But Genji does have his weapons and the Dragonblade and some ridiculous stamina.

>>90593539
Venom will lose

Long story short, If a character is even slightly tactical DB has them win

>>90612726
Oh definitely, a crushed car is alot harder to repair than a card with a giant log through it.
If Dante wants to compete with Bayo he'd need to 100% avoid being hit at all costs. Something I personally don't think he capable of since his best speedfeats both come from DMC3, where he was at his weakest, but it's also impossible to really scale them up to try and have them match current dante. So until something like DMC5 comes out and dante shows that he can both react and outpace a blitz or something Bayo has this in the bag more often than not.

>>90612753
To be fair, while the outcome is bullshit, the only thing in-universe that's been able to resist being cut by Yamato is Rebellion and the Jokers finger after Vergil was extremely wounded and fatigued. So I can in a way see Bayo going down if she lets herself get directly by Yamato.

>>90612794
Then how did Spider-Man beat Batman?

>>90593539
Tell me about Brock! Why does he wear the symbiote!?

>>90612814
I thought Yamato was more Vergil's equipment than Dante's, another thing I was confused by in the death battle.
So I found that kinda unfair based on what I remember.

But if it IS a part Dante's repetoire than yeah....it would be a BIG advantage. Not even fighting from within Purgatorio would help since it can cut spatially.

Anyone want to rant with me about the utter BS that was Ganon's win againsst Bowser?

"Yep the curse that killed The Great Deku Tree would do in Bowser....King of Koopas, the same curse that took long enough for Link to A) go through GDT B) Find the source of the curse which is a fucking big ass parasite and even after GDT surivived long enough to makea final farewell....

BUT against BOWSER it killed instantly, and required no parasite.

also NLF on Ganondorf can only be killed master Sword or Silver Arrows (basically "holy weapons)
hmmm I guees by DB standards Saitama and Superman doublefisting Ganondorf in the ass wouldnt mean jackshit to the King of Gerudos.

>>90612893
If we're taking composite Dante, then yeah he does have access to it, he only had it for like a few hours in story, but if we take the dante from those few hours he was making great use of it.
I'm not saying Dante Should win, but He definitely has the tool(S) to maybe steal one from Bayo if he gets lucky and she does something stupid, since while Bayos durability is really impressive with the whole building headbutting, I don't think she has any magical protection that let her take hits from things like Yamato. Also Let me add and remove something to the list, the Jester didn't get cut by the edge but caught it with his hand, so he wasn ever cut, but the Savior is effectually immune to the effect that lets you cut space, or atleast I think so, The blade itself can cut through the stone and it's entirely possible Dante didn't want to kill the savior with Nero and his girl inside but for now lets just assume it's immune to the whole space cutting deal.

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>>90612849
>How did a guy with powers beat a guy with out?
It's a mystery.

>>90612955
a few hours....what the fuck that shouldn't count.

>>90612849
Batman's strategies for superior foes tend to focus around guerrilla tactics and stealth, which the Spider-Sense counters. And Batman can't tank his way past a guy who goes toe to toe with Rhino.

There's always the occasional exception to rules like 'tactical characters always win' and 'Street Fighter characters always lose'.

>>90612938
Honestly, I was just angry because it's such a boring way to finish the fight. Like how Mewtwo vs Shadow ended with Mewtwo mindwiping Shadow and then kicking his ass.

>>90612980
Well if you allow prep-time of anysort he could always just Ask Nero to borrow it. but yeah, alot of times people specify wheather he has it or not since he only used it for a short while before giving it back to Nero and letting him keep it. That said I don't know how well Bayo deals with sharp weapons, I know she cna resist blunt force very well but I don't think I've seen her take a hit from a sharp weapon other than that sealing dagger. so He might not even need Yamato since Rebellion is also pretty strong when Dante isn't holding back.

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>>90612958
So if it just comes down to powers vs powers, doesn't that make Venom kind of a shoe in since he has tons of powers and Bane is just a normal guy whos abnormally strong

>>90613053
was this rape?

>>90612769
Jack definitely. Genji isn't even the best swordsman in overwatch.

>>90612955
Hmm another thing is Bayo can stack Witchtimes

best case for this is the boss fight in Bayo 1, riiiight before the boss fight starts Luka (supporting character and Cereza are hoisting themselves up to a Helicopter in the air, Bayo goes to fight this giant angel in the sea down below and surprises them by being in the helicopter by the time the two get up to it,

and during said bossfight which is during witchtime you can use witchtime again


Even if it couldnt be stacked it has canonically been shown to last FAR longer time periods then Dante's QS has EVER been shown to last inside and outside of gameplay.

>>90613027
if preptime bayo gets jeanne to help summon Sheba. dante is FUCKED against that, no if and or buts about it, just fucked.

Cause honestly I prefer no prep in this case since Dante just gets this retarded advantage to get a weapon he hardly ever uses and isnt even really HIS.

>>90613138
Yeah, Quicksilver hasn't been shown off much, we know that it lasts a couple seconds minimum but that's about it. In-game it can last about 12~ seconds I think? Definitely not close to how long witchtime lasts. quicksilver MIGHT last as long given that the cutscene ended before quicksilver did, atleast I think so. but unless we see him use it in a cutscene in a Future game (lol) it's not really a huge point.

>>90613096
Hmmm yeah. I guess, I just it'd be cool

to be fair Jack aint the best in his own verse(though he is pretty fucking high up there), he HAS been beaten before like the big blue guy in the suit and those 4 lion people hunters or whatever.

>>90613197
Oh another thing I dont think Dante can spam it like Bayonetta can

>>90613096
Well to give Genji some credit, he could:

withstand attacks from Winston
withstand entire tank shells
block Widowmaker's bullets which would require immense speed to do
casually deflect Bastion's from his minigun
and given that a character slower than him Solider: 76 outran an explosion, that should put Genji as pretty damn fast.

>>90613223
Not sure, I don't think I've said this before but a big issue with bring up Dante in these kind of comprisons is that cutscenes that actually show off gameplay or similiar things like that are pretty rare, along with the whole "dante's never really trying" thing. shit like Dante not using quicksilver or Doppelganger in cut scenes, royalguard's existence as a whole, etc etc. he's got way to many unknowns to really argue about since normally when he gets something, you get a short cutscene of him playing with it then it never shows up again except in gameplay. With what we can currently deduce from Dante, Literal lighting fast reflexes and comparable speed, being able to tank a punch from the savior(very hard to really pindown how impressive it is) and having a pretty solid regen factor, hell I don't think we've seen Dante use Devil trigger in a cutscene other than like 3 times, neither of them including him actually fighting in it so we don't even know how big a boost it might be.
But enough of that Tangent. Personally I think dante COULD win, but I don't think he should or would win in a fight.

>>90613372
>Hulk in a bowtie as a bartender

Yes, very good

>>90613291
thats fine, I disagree but I see your points. They are well made.

>>90613526
Likewise.

>>90603701
How was Akuma vs Shang Tsung atrocious?

Akuma has the power to blow up an entire island with a single punch canonically, sorry but Shang Tsung isn't that strong

Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter in general is just horrible to pair up, it's paired up because the two brands are pop culture rivals/branding rivals but the canon and universes couldn't be any more different from one another

DESU, I think most Western fiction vs Anime/Jap shit is usually just not good to match up because of how different things tend to work

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>>90612489
>hit

I love Rogue but there's no way that that 'Death Battle' would even go to the death.

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>>90594458
>RODO RORRA DA
>WRRRRYYYYYYYYY

>>90613623
I meant atrocious in the 'animation was shitty as hell and the matchup was completely unbalanced', not 'holy shit, that victory was biased' atrocious

Yeah, I'm not a fan of MK vs SF either. As a big fan of the latter, I do recognize that SF is mostly just really buff humans with the occasional magician and ki user. Even the 'normal' humans of MK, like Sonya and Briggs, are packing advanced tech. The only SF characters that could throwdown with MK are M. Bison and the more powerful shotoclones like Akuma and Ryu, and not with the matchups they're giving them. Bison should have gone against Shang Tsung, and Ryu should have gone against Johnny Cage or Liu Kang.

>>90612997
To be fair, Shadow's physical strength way outmatches Mewtwo's and obviously Mewtwo would like to not die to chaos control. The best thing to do is take advantage of his vulnerable mind

>>90595910
Nope he and the rest of the mercs should be able to use magic

Hmm... Danny Phantom vs Yusuke Urameshi.

>>90612997
well Mewtwo and Shadow ended that way cause the animator was quitting and didnt want to put in effort, look it up I think its easy to find the info confirming it.

so yeah blame the animator for being a jerk.

>>90613814
Ryu vs. Scorpion made literally no sense, I agree there....as much of a meme as it is to say "Scorpion and Sub Zero are the Ryu and Ken" of MK, it simply isn't true....other than both being the more popular characters of their franchise, the "Ryu and Ken" of MK would without a doubt be Liu Kang and Johnny Cage

>>90613281
Jack literally punches robots to pieces.
Not even disabling blows, like literally bisecting them and crumpling their chassis.
He can do the same with a bamboo rod, despite that making literally zero sense.

Plus, he can JUMP GOOD

>>90614075
kek...I still love that jump good scene against The Scotsman and Aku.

>>90614102
I love the fact that aside from the Scotsman and Jack's backstory, the only real continuity in the series is Jack's ongoing ability to JUMP GOOD, which he uses in most episodes. He got his money's worth out of monkey boy.

>>90614075
pbbbbbbt UMMMM he didn't PUNCh he used a SWORD! Guh get your facts straight faggut.

naw but yeah that bamboo shit still makes no sense to me even if its cool as shit.

>>90614126
I love that episode where the guys all try to ambush him as bounty hunters and he fucking wipes his ass with them in the time it takse for a drop of water from icicle to hit the floor. Even worse was he took down a Princess just trying to free her people from Aku (not that he fucking would)

>>90603726
WAY too one sided, nothing supes has can compare to the sharingan.

>>90614682
Saitama vs Supperman

who wins? lol

>>90614178
Let's be honest here, it's the princess' own damn fault for not just asking Jack for help. If she's royalty she ought to be well enough informed to know that he's a chronic samaritan. Hell he'd probably still have done it even after she got all those badasses merked trying to kill him.

>>90612207
>He hasn't played mario galaxy

>>90604731

Tifa doesn't keep up with them.

The only reliably powerful members on the team were Cloud and Vincent. Red XIII was middle ground and the rest were trash. That's why the entire start is 'We needed to hire Cloud because we couldn't do this shit otherwise'.

Proof of this is Loz fucking one shotting her when he wasn't fucking around but being an absolute nobody to Cloud later.

I would put her roughly on par with the Turks. Competent when applied to the majority but low grade compared to SOLDIER members and actual monsters.

>>90614710
Superman. Saitama is just a bald guy, superman is a reporter who could stab him with a pencil.

>>90593776
>venom's tongue can wrap around your cock and still reach into your ass

In deathbattle rules, Venom wins, no contest.

In a more realistic scenario, where they both exist in the same city and want the other dead, Bane wins, no contest.

>>90602102
Pretty much accepted it straight off because Logan is the king of jobbers

>>90611945
>blackhole level durability
>Brushing up against a creature of similar build to him 6 times is fatal
k

>>90593539
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>>90612938
>Ancient incarnation of evil with black magic powers wielding the power of the gods defeating a big brute who can breathe fire and kidnaps princesses but is always defeated by a chubby italian half his size who can jump good
What's the problem exactly?

>>90615289
>Bane wins, no contest.
because?

>>90615526
no preptime bitch, they go in blind

>>90612489
>>90613661
This.

Diana's first move in most of her fights is to try the lasso, which means Rogue isn't touching shit as she's hog tied into submission.

>>90612727
I've always had a soft spot of AZ-bats.

And I still think his costume is one of the cooler Batsuit variations. The claws, the flamethrowers, the batarang launchers, it was cool.

>>90612997
>Tactical Characters always win

Ash and Charizard vs Tai and Agumon

>>90613623
>>90613814
MK fighters tend to be closer in terms of power than SF fighters. The recent story modes have given everyone pretty good win/loss scores. Even Johnny Cage has clean wins over big supernatural guys like Scorpion.

It's different in SF where 2/3rds of the cast, if not more, are light years behind everyone else.

There's the tier Makoto, Ibuki, Fei-Long, Elena, E. Honda, and most of the cast are at which is "mostly normal". Then there's the Akuma/M. Bison/Ryu characters that go full anime bullshit.

>>90615636
>Because?

Because Eddie is too spastic not to fall into a trap like when he went after Kraven that time he started killing the Sinister Six.

>>90615636
>because?
Bane is a a tactical genius, one of the top strategic minds in DC. Venom's average intelligence at absolute best. He can be a bit crafty, but he's also very irrational, hot headed, and just in general not much of a thinker. Spider-Man normally defeats him by outsmarting him.

Bane's thing, his introductory arc, is about him patiently analyzing a target from a distance, finding weaknesses, exploiting those weaknesses, and striking when they were most vulnerable to finish the job.

Venom has severely exploitable weaknesses, and has regularly been defeated by a more clever foe luring him into some sort of trap, and exploiting those weaknesses.

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Bane SHOULD be able to win, only they won't bring up the reason he should be able to: that he is meant to have Batman-tier intelligence. EVERYONE, including writers, fucking forgets this.

If it's just two retards punching each other then yes, Eddie will win. Except they're probably going to take some ridiculous alternate universe edge case and say that Bane can overpower him even though he shouldn't be able to.

Death Battle is and has always been fucking stupid, I wish I couldn't understand why it's popular but unfortunately I do, it's because people like arguing about dumb shit.

Bane is lucky it's Eddie and not Flash

>>90595404
>Bane:
>+Genius intellect
it's joker vs sweet tooth all over again.

>>90616103
His intelligence doesn't matter in a Death Battle, which the entire point is literally who's better equipped to beat the other in a random, on the spout, out of nowhere encounter

Once we bring in things like plot armor type things and prep time, it defeats the purpose...because just like in comic books or any fiction, any character can be written to win if it suits the plot no matter what, like Punisher beating Ghost Rider....if you want to go that route literally anything can be made up because it's fiction

The point of Death Battle is to take fictional characters and try their best to remove them from fictional narrative and treat it as if two characters got into a random street fight while also basically giving them whatever personal arsenal should be allowed to them for the sake of bitchy fans

There is no narrative here, that's why Bane being super smart doesn't really matter and why the Wily vs Robotnik battle, two so called geniuses, was just about who made the stronger robots

>>90616103
you're gonna fucking complain even if Bane wins due to intelligence.

>>90615606
Bowser is fucking strong as shit, have you Inside Story, the galaxy games? Guy is resilient and durable as fuck.

>>90614757
Hmm yeah. I would love if she appeared not even like pointed out, she just appears somewhere in the new show.

/CO/ BTFO

https://youtube.com/watch?v=pgWXWPLx_NA

>>90593539
He doesn't.

>>90616103
There's no prep time in Death Battle, so it doesn't matter.

>>90617788
So why did Batman beat Cap then?

>>90617806
Batfags were butthurt that Batman lost to Spiderman, so Death Battle gave him Cap to appease them.

>>90617806
Cap has one gadget, Batman has tons

>>90617806
Batman is smarter, better equipped and a much better fighter. All Cap is is stronger (moderately) and possessed of a nigh-indestructable shield.

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>>90617886
>much better fighter
Ha! This was before Captain America got an additional 100 years of combat experience.

I love Death Battle.
It always supplies such sweet, juicy nerd rage.

>>90617963
The fights in these things were decided by fan votes. Unless you think Wolverine really is stronger than Lobo, of course.

Let's not forget that Batman is fighting Cap to a standstill here despite lacking Cap's supersoldier serum, and despite not using any of his many, many gadgets. Even going by this page, Cap is being outfought.

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>>90618074
I know the fights in DC vs. Marvel were determined by fan votes, but this isn't from DC vs. Marvel. Maybe you should read a comic before assuming a page comes from it.

This is how their fight ended in DC vs Marvel.

>>90617806
Batman's jobber aura is even stronger than Cap's. Also, batfags would have burned Screwattack down if Batman lost twice.

>>90593539
He broke the Bat, a guy who beat the guy who beated a god of course have a chance

>>90618200
Nah dog, pretty sure JLA vs Avengers was fan votes too. The Lobo jobbing thing is fairly notorious.

And of course you were so eager to be smug and dismissive that you completely failed to address the second point. Better get on that if you want to get your argument back on its feet.

>>90618323
And Spider-man killed Batman. Venom is Spider-man with the dials turned to 11.

>>90618378
Not all the dials. Brainpower is turned to 1.

>>90613053
Exactly. The matchup is fucking dumb.

>>90618341
The Lobo thing was in DC vs. Marvel. I think you are confusing the two. And I haven't seen anything indicating that JLA/Avengers was fan votes, especially since the heroes fight each other was a very small part of the overall story.

As for your second point, 100 additional years of combat experience is going to improve him by quite a lot.

>>90618417
eddie is insane and hot headed but far from a retard

>>90618378
The difference is Spider-Man is a genius, and Venom's a hot head who constantly blunders into traps. Spider-Man regularly beats Venom specifically by outsmarting him, and Bane is smarter than Spider-Man.

>>90618767
>>90618341
Oh, it's also fair to assume that Batman included whatever gadgets he had on him in his assessment. Why would he intentionally put himself at a disadvantage when trying to figure out who would win?

And even then, Batman admits that Captain America has a decent shot at beating him.

>>90619190
Venom can only blunder into traps when he's against an opponent who knows enough about him to be able to trap him

Once again, Death Battle is about taking characters out of a fictional narrative and having them duke it out with no prep time or prior knowledge of one another

>>90593539

Um Bane would outsmart him quite easily.

Either that or Bane would simply convince the Symbiote that they were meant to be together and were far more powerful together.

Seriously, Bane Venom hybrid would be insane.

>>90619774
Eddie could just send a tendril up Bane's nose and have it choke his brain to death

Does Venom make his brain super strong?