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Anyone else excited for there to finally be a female villain

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Anyone else excited for there to finally be a female villain in a comic book movie?
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Didn't Suicide Squad have a female villain?
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Clickbait is getting lazier and lazier it seems.
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>>90581618
hell, even the first Superman movie had a female villain
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>>90581618
thats gotta be a shop, no one is that dumb to actually believe that
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>>90581638
that bitch better be fucking hanged for the shit she did, unleashed a cataclysmic event and killed federal agents
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>>90581650
Are you kidding? Women all over America marched for "equal rights" this week, which they quite literally already have.
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>>90581650
It is a link to an actual article (http://collider.com/thor-ragnarok-cate-blanchett-hela-villain ). It's talking about her as the first Marvel movie female villain.
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>>90581618
Mystique isn't a villain?
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>>90581618
If I could destroy the person who wrote this with the snap of my fingers I'd do it. I'D DO IT.-
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http://collider.com/thor-ragnarok-cate-blanchett-hela-villain/?utm_campaign=collidersocial&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

Looks like the tweet came from an artical referring to the first marvel female villain
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>Collider dickriding the MCU and ignores that fucking Gone Girl had a female antagonist along with other movies before Thor 3.

Not surprised

>>90581638
Yeah along with Catwoman and I guess you could argue that X-Men did too.

>inb4 LOL BUT THOSE VILLAINS SUCKED
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>>90581708
>>90581716
What about maya in iron man 3
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>>90581708
>>90581716
They really couldn't squeeze in the word Marvel in their post? Even then what about AoS and Luke Cage? Both Marvel shows, both had female villains.
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>>90581734
Ignored for clickbait purposes.

Actually, they probably just can't remember any movies older than a year ago.
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nebula was a villain
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>>90581618

And it's going to be shit like every other one of their movie villains. Equality all around!
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>>90581734
Iron Man 3 would be a better movie if they make Madame Masque as the villain instead of fake Mandarin & flaming faggot
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>>90581761
How do Marvel keep getting good press for their movies when they're just as bad as the DC ones?
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>>90581618

This is the new world we live in, the studios and companies are using outrage to fuel free press for their product.

Sony knew Ghostbusters was going to bomb with their target audience. Solution? Invent a new target audience out of righteous indignation, all those women who bought tickets "just to show" men who dared to bash the awful trailer.

I guess modern superhero movies would start with 1989's Batman, and that franchise had a female villain in its 1992 sequel. Or Superman in 1979, it had a trio of villains in Superman 2 (one was female) and a trio of villains in Superman 2 (2 of the 3 were female).

Or we allow the 1966 Batman movie, which had a female villain.

Superman had a film in 1951 but didnt fight a single villain, but a race of invading "Mole-Men".

Before that, you've got Zorro movies.

Yeah, so lets start with '78 Supes and the villains already listed

Supergirl - female villain
The Mask - female villain
Batman & Robin - female villain
Hancock - female villain
Dark Knight Rises - female villain
GotG - female villain
Deadpool - female villain
Suicide Squad - female villain

The list goes on and on, and I'm probably forgetting twice this list. Who the hell can remember the plot points of most of the shitty X-movies? But honestly, how short term memory does one need to be to forget the just-out Suicide Squad and Deadpool movies?
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To be fair, I think what they're trying to talk about is female MAIN villains. Those are still quite rare. There's almost always a bigger male villain behind the female one, or the female one gets redeemed by the end.

That's the kind of thing that annoys me most about this issue. People complain "waaahhh more female representation give us female villains!", but these same people are also incapable of getting over their collective whiteknight mentality of "Oh no you can't show her getting hurt you're promoting violence against women!". Thus female villains hardly ever get treated the same way as male ones. Doesn't matter how much of an evil bitch she is, can't show her getting a simple punch to the face. Gorey massacre of thousands of men directly on screen? Awesome! But a woman getting hit by a man, regardless of how evil she is? Oooooh no way. Audiences aren't comfortable with that.
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>>90581650
Feminist gaslighting is permeated throughout American social media and thanks to America's soft power it spreads all over the western world.
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>>90581817
All marvel's main vllians have sucked donkey dick, it should not be a sought after position.
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>>90581618
>There’s so much untapped potential villainy in women. It’s really exciting. I think finally it’s beginning to be acknowledged that women and men want to see a diverse array of characters, and that’s race, gender across the sexual spectrum.
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>>90581803
Mask of the phantasm as well.
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>>90581650
around there people believe the wage gap between male and female is 25% so I wouldn't be surprised people believe OP. There's millions of normies whom only experience with the genre is Iron man and Avengers
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>>90581878
>women and men want to see a diverse array of characters, and that’s race, gender across the sexual spectrum.

Can't wait to see the Hulk cornhole Ant-man.
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>>90581817
>To be fair
It's not fair to defend lies and stupidity in any occasion, especially when fueled the belief of something that devolved into a fanatic terrorist cult over the past decade.
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>>90581817
Ivy pretty much was the main villain of Batman & Robin though, she directly controlled Bane and if I remember correctly she manipulated Freeze into attacking Batman.
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>>90581618

Ha ha

She's such a damn dirty hoe
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>>90581723
> in before people correct me

Not how that works senpai
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>>90581803
> Counting henchwomen as villains
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>>90581803
>Sony knew Ghostbusters was going to bomb with their target audience. Solution? Invent a new target audience out of righteous indignation, all those women who bought tickets "just to show" men who dared to bash the awful trailer.
Bait please
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>>90581618
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>>90581618
They're talking about her being a female LEAD villain. I'm upset it took this long, seriously. And not for the same reason as everyone else who is out to feign affection just to fill in a gender gap.

It's the fact that so many cool female villains just haven't appeared or haven't been given a spotlight. There's a bunch I want on screen, and not as bit roles.
>Madame Viper
>Madame Masque
>Enchantress
>Jean Grey
>Madelyne Pryor
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>>90582033
>Madame Masque
>aven't been given a spotlight
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>>90581737
>They really couldn't squeeze in the word Marvel in their post?
Of course not, that would reduce the number of clicks.
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>>90582016
love interest. He never jailed her but he sure railed her
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>>90581618
How does Marvel do it?!
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>>90582045
Actually I've yet to see Agent Carter at all, so I didn't know. My point still stands that there are still plenty of other female villains who deserve a spotlight too though.
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>>90582033
>>90582045
Wasn't Madame Viper in The Wolverine as well?
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>>90582069
That sidekick lady?
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>>90582077
If we're talking about femvillains who need a real spotlight, or a place as lead then that hardly counts.
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Call me when you have intersex recurring villain with their own nude scene.
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>>90582096
We're talking about lead villains. Banes henchman #73 wasn't the chief bad guy of the movie. Neither is snake bitch
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>>90581618
>10

Im pretty sure Supergirl beat this by 25-30 years
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>>90582033
Nah son.
Female Lead villain for the Marvel films but the shows, DCEU and other shows and movies that aren't even comic related have had female lead villains. I'm not about to praise Marvel for finally catching up with everyone else.
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>>90581734
Wasn't she a sweet and innocent snowflake that was tricked by an evil man to do bad things but had a change of heart?
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>>90581817
>To be fair, I think what they're trying to talk about is female MAIN villains.

Supergirl. Again.
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>>90581618
Suicide Squad? Batman Returns? The Dark Knight Rises?

What the fuck is going on over at Disney man?
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>>90582045
>Non-canon cancelled snorefest
Yes, she hasn't.
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>>90582130
People don't understand that the villain isn't some person the hero knocks out and isn't even given an afterthought. Yet they still wanna throw in "secondaries" as villains
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>>90582130
B-but it's the CURRENT YEAR!
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>>90581618
>female
>villain
Nah. She'll be the standard woobie with a sad, sad backstory that will make the Asgardians the villains all along instead. Women aren't allowed to be villains.
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>>90581817
The Dark Knight Rises had Talia as the lead villain. Poison Ivy was the lead villain in Batman & Robin. Catwoman arguably had more agency in Batman Returns than Penguin.
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>>90582148
>Le marvel tv is non canon meme
Stop.
>Snorefest
Now you're just baiting.
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>>90582180
did you read the fucking thread?
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>>90582146
> Having lunch with the "villain" and starting a new life with her


Try harder
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>>90582188
Coulda swore it was Mr Freeze you dip
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I keep mistaking Tilda with Cate for some reason.
Speaking of which, here's a female villain.
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>>90581645
Miss Tessmacher?
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>>90582190
Please raise your standards.
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>>90581638
Collider are legit MCU shills. They mention it in a segment about Redlettermedia parodying them, and they say RLM are at least independent to get away with it. So of course they''re gonna ignore all other companies.
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>>90582205
>Poison Ivy breaks Freeze out of Arkham
>Poison Ivy plants the seeds of discord and jealousy in the Batfamily
>Poison Ivy kills Nora to manipulate Freeze
>Poison Ivy comes up with the master plan to freeze the planet
>Batman and Freeze become friends at the end while Ivy gets punished

Freeze is literally as much of a lead villain as Two-Face is from Forever.
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>>90582237
Boooo hooo. I don't recall SS parroting their female villain. Now why is that?
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>>90582194
When does that happen?
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>>90582244
>Poison ivy isn't the one that needed to be stopped to keep the earth from freezing
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DC REALLY needs to start promoting their shit
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>>90581675

I cannot believe journalists across the world are STILL enabling the wage gap myth.

It should be fucking criminal at this point
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we've had them since forever, is this really something to celebrate?
ah fuck it, alright /co/cks, tell me:
who's your favorite /co/ female big bad from any /co/-related medium if we're gonna narrow it down?
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>>90581618

Give me a fucking break
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>>90581618
She is wrong about that but I am kind of mad they changed iron man villan because of gender.
Also mad they pussied out on demon in a bottle.
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>>90582244
> Can't get anything done without Freeze
> Villain
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>>90582305
I almost forgot Superman snapped her neck after Zod jobbbed with that whole plane thing
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What about Dredd?
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>Cruella
>Malevicent
>Red Queen
>that jelly ass queen from Snow White
>Cinderella's mom and sisters
>Ursula
>Yzma
>the witch from Tangled
What about them?
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>>90581618
Women aren't allowed to be villains anymore, Cate Blanchett. You misogynist, you.
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>>90582353
Malificent was the hero though
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>>90581712
Sidekick tier doesn't count
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>>90582274
"i thought the villain was the devil," Said every idiot ever
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>it's a "/co/ justifies their misogyny with one retarded clickbait headline" episode
Lets get this party started
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>>90582648
Whores get out.
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Not even the first primary antagonist in a 2017 capeshit movie
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>>90581839
'gaslighting' has never meant what you're trying to make it mean here, sorry
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>>90582194
He's talking about Talia, dumbass.
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>>90582320
>>90582265
So you'd say Doomsday was the villain of BvS, and not Lex Luthor?
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>>90581618
But what about Enchantress, Poison Ivy, Catwoman 3 times, Mystique, Phoenix Jean Grey, Lady Desthstrike, or Faura?
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>>90581638

Nigger, CATWOMAN had a female villain.
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>>90582213
I think you meant
>MISS TESCHMACHEEEEEER!

It's all in the pronunciation.
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Phoenix?
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>>90582664
You're the only virgin here.
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>>90582695
That's what I thought of too lol
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Why is she called Hela?
Her name is Hel.
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I want to fuck hela
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>>90581817
Nobody actually does that, though. People are completely fine with women getting their shit kicked in as long as its an actual fight and not some guy just beating on a girl who can't defend herself.

That sort of villain white knighting is an example of the studios existing solely up their own asses. The audiences don't really give a fuck.
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>>90582861
>>90582869
Because Ameritards can't comprehend Old Norse.
I remember reading about the outrage of "female Thor" and the author of the article making a point that she wouldn't be called "Thorina" when the feminine equivalent of Þór is Þórra. I know it's pedantry, but you'd think people would at least do some level of research on the source material.

Thanks to Marvel's pop-culture influence, most people rely on them for the images of the Æsir and Vanir rather than the old poems and sagas.
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>>90583003
But wait.
Don't they still call the realm Hel in the comics? Was Hel too masculine for a goddess for Marvel or something?
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>>90581618
What happened to Galadriel?
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>>90582054
>never jailed her
Because she died.
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>>90582427
>curses a child
>a decade later realizes she was a dick, but still coups the kingdom killing honest guardsmen who were just doing their job protecting kingdom from witch that cursed princess
>Hero
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Beware Maleficant.
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>>90582811
The modern liberal left tend to disregard about the last 50 years of history so they can claim all sorts of "firsts" and "victories" as their own when they already happened decades ago and were nothing to do with them. It's not fake news when they do it.
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>>90581618
Did little mermaid not exist or something?
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>>90583340
Yeah, I've seen that shit all over. Hell I saw an article just the other day about how the new Beauty & the Beast has the very first two interracial kisses in Disney history and how it's so progressive and everyone should see it.
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>>90583102
IN PLACE OF A DARK LORD YOU WILL HAVE A QUEEN!
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>>90581618
>Fox/Marvelhas been doing frmale villians for years
>DC has been doing female villians for years
All crickets
>Marvel/MCU finally adds a female villian to their list of underrated villians
Its the best thing ever and Everyone should learn from them.
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>>90582861
Then Thor and Odin should be Thorr and Othin
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>>90583360
COMIC BOOK movie
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>>90583556
>He didn't read Little Mermaid: Immortal Weapons
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>>90581618
Had a look for myself and the actual article has a proper title - OP's screenshot is just a stupid (on their part) clickbait attention grabber.

So the real question is, is this the first marvel film villain?
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>>90583556
Who ever made that statement didn't clarify enough, but besides the point she is still wrong
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>>90582826
>>90582213
>Valerie Perrine
>one of my first teenage boners
>evil
NOPE
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>>90582102
>yfw I have Rule 34 of this
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>>90582338
No one remembers Dredd.
>mfw
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>>90582695
>>90582854

Don't also forgot that Julianne Moore is cast as the lead villain in Kingsman 2.
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>>90581618
Fucking Cruella DeVille was a villian. Yzma was a villian. lmao
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It's not even Cate's first female villain role.
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>>90584076
That's Tilda Swinton bro.
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>>90583638

Marvel Studios's first female main villain, yeah, I think.

Pretty sure non-MS films, like The Punisher '89 and Nick Fury: Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D., had women as the primary antagonists.
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>>90583638
Mystique.
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>>90584101
whoops they look the same
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>>90584137
Das racist.
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>>90582899
Do you not remember the outrage over the "Apocalypse choking Mystique" poster. I know Mystique wasn't a villain there but it's the same sorta issue.
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>>90582899
>not some guy just beating on a girl who can't defend herself.
why? they beat men who can't defend themselves all the time.
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>>90581638
Faora in Man of Steel too.
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>>90584125
> Mystique
> Marvel studios
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>>90581723
>Gone Girl
If we don't count superheroes, Ruby was a much better villain than anyone in MCU because of one fucking line. Or the witches from Suspiria trilogy. Or... You know what? If we don't count superheroes, there'd be too many female villains to count.
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>>90585075

> If we don't count superheroes, there'd be too many female villains to count.

Hell, watch almost any classic film noir. Good chance the villain is a woman.

The issue is they're normally softened up instead of being as insane and evil as male villains. I remember Ellin Barkin talking about taking the villain role in Johnny Handsome because it was one of the only times she'd seen a woman villain who was just as filthy and amoral as the male antagonist.
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There was also Artemis in the 300 sequel. Many a fap were had with Eva Green's tits, whether they were actually hers or a double's.
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>>90584137
Das autis.
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Women being treated like children and victims is why they still haven't been able to achieve half of what men have despite woman getting so many advantages in society these days.
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>>90582274
To be fair, Gabriel was supposed to look androgynous, so you couldn't really tell his/her sex, hence why they chose Tilda Swinton for the role.
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>>90582188
Catwoman was barely even a villain at all in Batman Returns.
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>>90582648
Putting women to the same standard as a man is misogyny.
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>>90583538
>Thunor and Woden
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>>90582861
In the comics, Hela's her name, and Hel is the underworld realm. They're shapeshifter aliens, after all, not the actual gods.

>>90583538
Well, there WAS an actual Thorr in the recent comics, so there's that, I guess.
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>>90583057
Hell is treated as feminine in all other Germanic languages. And it used to be feminine in Old English, too, before they got rid of genders for common nouns.
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>>90581618
>Anyone else excited for there to finally be a female villain in a comic book movie?
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>Cate's statement makes sense in context to the conversation she was having
>a website title the article with the comment without context
>/co/ gets triggered because they don't read
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>>90585441
/co/ gets triggered over everything, especially live action.

Heck, a lot people admit they don't watch them and yet all you hear is blabbering.
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She should have said "first main female supervillain."
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>>90585495

She was having a casual conversation, and the interviewer clearly understood what she meant because he asked her the question.

c'mon
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>>90581734
She wasn't really a supervillain, anon.

She was supposed to be in Shane Black's original draft, and I would have loved to see Rebecca Hall is a more major role, but Perlmutter vetoed it because he thought that female villains wouldn't sell.
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>>90582695

God I hate this design so much. Too much Scorpina, not enough Repulsa.
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>>90585441
Are you seriously talking about the "context" of clickbait, you massive fucking faggot?
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>>90585441
That's clickbait for you.

Clickbait is a shitty journalistic practice but most of you guys fall for it hook line and sinker every time if it confirms your biases.
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She was referring to main female villain in the MCU.

I'm pretty sure the golden chick from Guardians Vol. 2 beat her to the point. Also, IM3 almost had a female main villain.
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>>90581618
NOT GONNA REPLY BOYO

...FUCK.
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>>90585075
>If we don't count superheroes

Then OP's image is even more fucking retarded.

There are hundreds of woman villains, pretty much from all generations.
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>>90586001
Why did you have to remind me? She was abysmally bad. Easily the worst Buffy villain.
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>>90582740
>gaslighting
>manipulate (someone) by psychological means into doubting their own sanity.

Seems to fit at least on some level.
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>>90581803
>Hancock

One, Hancock is not /co/, just /tv/

Two, Charlize Theron wasn't a villain, just Will Smith's cunt of an ex-girlfriend who resented him for reasons

Three, actual villains were just some no-name thugs whose biggest contribution to the film was Hancock forcing one to violate the others asshole
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>>90581638
>>90584523
This.

GotG had Nebula as well.
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>>90586248
>>90584523
Not to move goalposts or anything but I'm sure they mean Main Villain. Who gives a fuck about lackeys?
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>>90586036
>Easily the worst Buffy villain.

Since you have blocked out your memories of Adam, allow me to remind you, he was the Frankenstein guy from the college season.
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>>90581618
>First female villain
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>No female villains!
but what about all these female villains
>n-no in the MCU!
so like Nebula
>b-but primary antagonist!
Madame Gao
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>>90586294
>who gives a fuck about lackeys

Every Darth Vader fan ever :^)

But seriously did you not see all the "YOU GO GIRL" shit about Faora in MoS?
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>>90586294
To each his own, but I genuinely found Faora more memorable than Zod in MoS. Fite me.

Also, as >>90586339 says, Darth Vader was technically a lackey in the OT as well, serving essentially the same role as either Faora or Nebula. Though he did also have more lines and development.
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>>90586294
I havn't seen man of steel because I don't care for live action capes but I was like 100% sure Faora was the main villain just from people talking about it. Are you sure? I mean madmax wasn't the main protagonist in madmax just because his name's on the tin.
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>>90586412
Even if one thinks Vader is a stretch, there's always pic related. He had even less development as a lackey than Faora and he is considered an icon of the SW franchise
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>>90586548
Great point.
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>>90586312
Nowhere near as bad as that annoying bitch.
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>>90581618
One of the most beloved Disney villains was Maleficent, Snow White came out in fucking 1959

God I hate these fucking clickbaiting faggots
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>>90584483
Yeah. I was among those "outraged," but that was more along the lines that nobody ever makes movie posters where one of the heroes is getting bitched so it really was an outlier. I still think Fox intentionally made that just to stir shit up.

But, like, the new Tomb Raider game has Lara impaled on a piece of rebar in the first five minutes, and then proceeds to inflict an absurd amount of punishment on her throughout the game, and how many people complained about that? None. Mass Effect 3 had Ashley pummeled into a coma in the second mission and again, nobody complained. So beating women is fine, so long as there is a sense that it isn't just one sided, that they can dish out as well as receive.

>>90584505
We're talking about the heroes and villains of action movies. They're rarely defenseless.

Keep in mind that by defenseless I don't mean tied up or something, I mean non-combatant who cannot stand up for themselves.
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>>90586412
>>90586339
>>90586548
What makes one care about a villain isn't their plot purpose but their character narrative purpose.

Vader may not be in control of the Empire but he is the antagonist of Luke's character arc far more than the Emperor or Tarkin.
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>>90582648
>Pointing out facts and calling out false bullshit that never happened is now misogyny
At this point do even normies care about being called a racist or a misogynist? The words basically have no meaning anymore.
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>>90581618
30+ years too late, amigo.
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>>90586725
>But, like, the new Tomb Raider game has Lara impaled on a piece of rebar in the first five minutes, and then proceeds to inflict an absurd amount of punishment on her throughout the game, and how many people complained about that? None.
Ha. Ha. Were you on /v/ when that game came out? Have you been in Tomb Raider threads since that game? Fucking EVERYONE was complaining about that shit, if more because of the huge ludonarrative discrepancy between dumb shit like that and the actual gameplay.

>>90586753
Explain Boba Fett then.

>Oh, he looks cool, rarely speaks, and is implied to be a huge badass.

Exactly.
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>>90583638
>So the real question is, is this the first marvel film villain?
IM3 was suppose to have one. We are only getting one now because Permutter had been kicked to the TV division where he is free to kill off Iron Fist.
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>>90586915
Most people don't care about Boba Fett though. They think he's cool, you're right, but other than big fans most don't think they need to go out of their way with him.
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>>90586915
>Ha. Ha. Were you on /v/ when that game came out? Have you been in Tomb Raider threads since that game? Fucking EVERYONE was complaining about that shit, if more because of the huge ludonarrative discrepancy between dumb shit like that and the actual gameplay.
Yeah, but they were complaining about gameplay and story segregation, not muh violence against wymin.
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>>90587041
Explain why even normies were disappointed with Phasma then. Same basic kind of character, but they proceeded to do NOTHING with her and even threw her into the trash.
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>>90587425
Because unlike Boba Fett there was a lot of expectation thrown behind her. There wasn't as much of a hype engine behind blockbuster films when Empire was released as there is now. So people saw Boba Fett for the first time in the cinema and thought 'whoa, who's that guy?'.

With Phasma, they're inundated with her trailer after trailer as if she's gonna have a big role in the story, so when she doesn't, people are disappointed.
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Madame Hydra was in a movie.
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>>90586312
This.

Glory was great.
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>>90586332
>Madame Gao

Or Raina before that.

>b-but those aren't MCU
Ok, then Maya Hansen.
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>>90581618
Didn't the first Xmen movie have a female villain?
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>>90582033
>>Madame Masque
She was in Agent Carter

>Enchantress
While not Enchantress, Lorelei was in Agents of Shield.

>Jean Grey
Was the main antagonist of X3.
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>>90587758
They also had Lady Deathstrike.
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>>90587867
No one remembers her because she had no personality.
Her only purpose in the movie was to have a fight with Logan and die.
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>>90585441
>a website title the article with the comment without context
because disney knows everybody only reads the title
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I guess tv shows dont count then either?
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>>90587911
Her personality was the look of sudden realization and horror she got as Wolverine killed her, and he realized that he just killed an innocent, mind-controlled pawn.
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>>90587911
And to look hot af on screen.
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>>90583638
Nebula. She seems like she may be pulling a Face Turn for the sequel, but she's the only villain to get out alive in GotG 1.

And if we're counting the Netflix shows, Madame Gao.

If we're counting Marvel properties in general, X-Men has had female villains, most notably Mystique.
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>>90586698
Jesus fucking Christ. Glory wasn't great, but this is just an insane thing to say. You need to see a doctor.
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>>90589014
Why? What makes her so much better than those other shitty villains?
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>>90589056
You don't understand.

It has nothing to do with Glory.

The only reason Adam isn't the worst thing Joss Whedon has ever done is because seasons 3 and 4 of Angel also happened.
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It's 2017 by the way guys!
Last year it was 2016 but this year... oh nelly, IT'S 2017!
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>>90589616
I really thought last year would have broken the
>It's CURRENT YEAR so things should be getting more liberal
meme
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>>90589811
The whole idea of being progressive is bringing an ideal for the future into the present, hence 'progressive'.

So no they're not going to drop a central rhetoric just because /pol/ turned it into a meme.
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Does Aliens count?
It has comics.
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she looks spooky i want her to sweep me off my feet and kiss me
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>>90589839
But it's fake progress in this instance because no progress has been made as the thing they're claiming is progress has already happened many times before.

And in a lot of cases, it's regressive and illiberal because it's about not valuing people's opinions because of their (white) race and (male) gender and thinking that forcing people who don't agree with them into complying with their demands is the same as those people coming to those "progressive" conclusions and beliefs themselves.
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Bane movie had Talia?
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how long until even normies give up on marvel?
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>>90581638
Poison ivy
Faora in Donner Superman
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>>90589878
Xenomorphs are genderless, dumbass. Ripley isn't a villain.
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>>90583733
Hey, Chief Judge McGruder wasn't evil. Just insane after her Long Walk.
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>>90589134
:( oh anon. Just when I thought I'd blocked the Angel series from my memory.
:(
I'm gonna have to start in on the Spicy Rum now before I start thinking about DollHouse.
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>>90583638

Keep shrinking those goalposts. "Thor: Ragnarok" features the first female villain in "Thor: Ragnarok".

True, but not possessing any value as a comment whatsoever.
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>>90590243
Bullshit. If they're genderless they wouldn't have a Queen.
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>>90590378
>before I start thinking about DollHouse

Woah now.

Don't you put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby.
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>>90583003
Does Þ make a "th" sound?
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>>90590421
It's a dipthong thing between a d and a th sound like how Japanese "r" is halfway between R and L. It's translated alternately as th or d depending on context.
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>>90582252
what does your sentence even mean. Do you know what parroting means? It means copying what someone else said, like a parrot.
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>>90581737
>They really couldn't squeeze in the word Marvel in their post?
Twitter has a pretty small character limit.
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So which was the first comic book movie to feature a female LEAD villain. Not just a lackey or second in command? Even things like Talia in DKR was a last minute twist so i'd consider it dubious.

I know Suicide Squad featured Enchantress (well, technically i'd say Waller was the villain.) Was there any before that? I ain't watched shit like Catwoman.

Dredd if you count all comic books and not just capeshit.
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>>90590571
>plebs who have no idea what twitlonger is
Are they even human?
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>>90590420
Have some Spicy Rum anon. Quickly, we need to drown those memories with sweet drunken oblivion.
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>>90590618
>Dredd is not capeshit
LOL
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>>90586548
Iconic, sure, but no one would ever argue that he was a main antagonist.
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>>90590618
>So which was the first comic book movie to feature a female LEAD villain

Batman Returns?
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>>90590661
>Dredd is capeshit.
Citation Needed.
Prove your workings anon. Give us a Venn Diagram that shows how Judge Dredd is a Superhero strip.
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>>90590618
Supergirl had one
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>>90590753
Dredd is as much capeshit as The Punisher or Green Lantern
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>>90590735
She wasn't exactly a villain, really.

You could argue that Poison Ivy is the more villainous one in Batman & Robin, but Mr. Freeze is the one with the most presence there.

Ultimately I think Suicide Squad is the only one that fits the bill.
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>>90590766
Bingo. That was released in 1984.
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>>90590464
Why not spell it "Dthor"?
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>>90590735
Selina was a victim though.
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>>90586412
>Darth Vader was technically a lackey in the OT
I always saw it as Vader being the main villain and Sidius some kind of extra hidden boss.
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>>90590776
But is the Punisher Capeshit? Genuine question as I don't read it. Green Lantern, yeah, sure, he has superpowers doesn't he (Again I don't read it). But again, how the drokk do you consider the Judge Dredd series to be a superhero comic in any way, shape or form? Have you ever even read an issue of 2000AD or one of the Dredd reprints, or are you just looking for a (You)? Fine, here's your (You). Oh, wait, are you basing your judgement on crossovers?
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>>90586332
>Madame Gao
>Iron Fist
May aswell ignore it all together since Iron Twink fucking sucks. That needles bitch from AoS was the first main female villain in the MCU though.
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>>90590863
Vader's villain status changes throughout the OT. In the first one he shares the spotlight with Tarkin. In the second he is the main villain with the Emperor as a bigger bad, and only in the third movie is he completely dethroned by Empy as the big bad.
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>>90586720
>Snow White
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>>90590863
Darth Vader got bossed around by Grand Moff Tarkin. See, I was 7 when Star Wars came out. All my friends wanted to be Han Solo apart from a couple that wanted to be Luke Skywalker. Me, I wanted to be Darth Vader. Then I thought about it and realised that Grand Moff Tarkin got to boss Darth Vader around. Then I thought about it a bit more and realised I wanted to be the Emperor.
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>>90590996
>>90590963
I don't even remember who Tarkin is.
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>>90581618
>female villain
>probably won't die a horrible death

Watch she either be healed by the dick or kill herself in some stupid spell or something. God I hate it when women don't die.
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>>90591178
It's Hela.
She isn't even fucking evil dude.
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>>90591178
Or physically beaten. What is wrong with a little bruise here and there. That's what I like about Legion. One of their primary fighters is a woman and she both kicks ass and gets her ass kicked. Maybe some women just like being hurt or find it kinky.
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>>90591053
Peter Fucking Cushing anon. The finest Victor Frankenstein, the greatest Van Helsing, the second-best Sherlock Holmes (After Basil Rathbone) and the Greatest Governor of the Imperial Outlands Of All Time.
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>>90591178
>probably won't die a horrible death
That's because she's literally lady death :^)
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>>90591178
Show us on the dolly where the third wave feminist transwombyn triggered you, Anon.
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>>90591217
She might be physically beaten

it'll just be by Valkyrie instead of Thor
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>>90591268
Fuck, I can't remember if Hel gets it in Ragnarök or if she's one of the very few survivors.
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>>90591398
Beaten with... a fist?
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>>90591419
Probably, this is not Spider-Man: Homecoming.
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>>90591053
He's the old guy with the sunken in cheeks who tells the Death Star to blow up Leia's home planet.
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>>90581618
Supergirl also had a female villain decades ago.
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>>90591447
So you're saying Cate Blanchett will get... fisted?
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>>90590904
Judge Dredd has a lot of elements in common with superheroes. Distinctive costume, rogues gallery, sidekicks, and gadgets. Even accounting for the future setting of the comic you've still got superpowers, aliens, and magic.
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>>90591583
Doubt so, Iron Fist is in Netflix, I hear it sucked.
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>>90581618
This whole thread could have been prevented if they'd put "MCU" in front of "female villain", as that's what she was talking about.
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>>90591496
Responsible for this exploitable.
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>>90591624
Then you'd have AoShitters claiming their terrible OC was first and the canon wars would start again.

The whole thread could have been prevented if OP just said he wanted to fuck Blanchett raw through her costume.
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>>90591617
Duh, anal fisting isn't as hot.
>>
Men in Black II had a female main villain, and Marvel owned Men in Black when the films were released.
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>>90590904
I have read Judge Dredd, not any full arcs, but a handful of stand alone issues. He carries a lot of the same tropes as >>90591588 said.

I count Punisher as capeshit for the same reasons. I mentioned Green Lantern because he too is a super cop, like Dredd.


In the same vein I'd say current iterations of Doc Savage are capeshit, though under the subhedding of pulp heroes or something like that.
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>>90591747
I fapped to her as a kid.
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>>90581618
If she means female main big bad Supervillain then I'm having a hard time thinking of another in film
all the females people have argued about were just second or third banana to some evil man holding her leash
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>>90581618
The first female villain that won't suck
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>>90581618
So Catwoman, Poison Ivy, Faora, Selena, Lady Deathstrike, Mystique, Laurel Hedare, and so on don't count?
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>>90585409
What do you mean "Flash Gordon approaching"?
>>
>>90592254
no because none of them were the main antagonist in the movie.
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>>90592455
I mean I want War Rocket Ajax ready to launch five minutes ago and every goddamn defense emplacement in this defense district manned and hot five minutes before that.
>>
>>90592067
>tfw one of my first boners was when she ate that dude
why god make us like that
it's so easy to get fucked-up fetishes
>>
>>90581618

Maybe she meant the first female villain of the year 2017 not the first female capeshit villain
>>
>>90588512
Can't go wrong with Kelly Hu in black leather.
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>>90581618
>all this time I was misgendering villains in super hero movies
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>>90593166
He's a meanie.
Like, "you aren't supposed to be gay but then he sticks a g-spot at penis length deep in all the guys' bums"-meanie.
>>
>>90581638
it had fucking 2
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>>90586312
Adam was awesome.

>>90586036
Glory was hot af. Always stick your dick in crazy.
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>>90584076
True statement but unrelated pic.
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>>90581645
Superman 2 numbnuts
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>>90582814
nigga Catwoman WAS a female villain back in 66
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>>90581675
You are a special kind of fucking retard. Yeah millions of women are stupid, or maybe you are just an ignorant twat.. Hmm what seems more likely,
>>
>>90581839
Kill yourself retard
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>>90581770
Madame Mask was the villain of season 2 of Peggy Carter.
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>>90581817
I think part of the problem is they dont want just a female villain they want a female villain that steals the spotlight and everyone loves. Problem is they come across as desperate and trying to force it so hard.

"Oh shit everyone look, we got a main female villain! We're putting extra focus and attention on her, get ready to have a new favorite and iconic character just as good as any of the guys out there!"

Same goes for when they make a new one to appeal to a minority demographic. If they really want to be seen as being capable of standing next to their male counterparts they need to stop felatting themselves everytime they trot out another attempt.
>>
>>90597135
the former?
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>>90582015
>Sony deleting tame negative comments and leaving in all the actual sexist comments on the trailer in never happened
>>
>>90582842
I'm a virgin
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>>90600467
And my Axe.
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>>90590822
Because that's not accurate to how it sounds, most people would pronounce your example as two separate syllables: Du-Thor, where as it's a sound somewhere between the two which doesn't exist in modern English.
>>
shiet /co/ is pretty sjw now.
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>>90600838
>now
>>
>>90582210
>tfw i want have a threesome with cate blanchett and tilda swinton
am i wrong? ive always had a thing for older classy women
>>
>>90602471
Even if they're bald or look like tryhard teenage punks?
>>
>>90581618
let's just ignore Mystique in the X-men movies
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>>90602570
>Even if they're bald
i can deal with this
>tryhard teenage punks
mmmmmmmm
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>>90582188
I'd agree with Catwoman, but Talia was almost nothing compared to Bane's presence.
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>>90583176
did she?
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>>90586217
Are you retarded?
>>
>Thor's wearing his helmet

Good

>Hela isn't

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Fuck you, concept art. Fuck you, you gorgeous teasing still image sluts!
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>>90581714
the only thing you're gonna snap is your chair
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>>90597135
>It's IMPOSSIBLE for people en masse to be stupid!

There's also people who believe the Earth is flat, 10,000 years old, and that evolution is a lie. Should they be trusted because there's a lot of them, too?
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>>90607501
There are absolutely not a lot of them. More people believe in toilet ghosts than a flat earth.
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>>90581618
But will she get hit at all?
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>>90588512
I had no recollection that she was in the movie but my dick suddenly remembers.
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>>90586501
Faora is not the main villain, she's more like Zod's right hand; the conflict is between him and Clark.

People talk about her a lot because she's very attractive and had a couple of memorable scenes.
>>
>>90590421
Yep. Like in "Thick" or "Maths"

>>90590464
>>90600614
>It's a dipthong thing between a d and a th sound
>most people would pronounce your example as two separate syllables: Du-Thor, where as it's a sound somewhere between the two which doesn't exist in modern English.
Þú ert hálfviti. How do you pronounce Ð/ð, then?
>>
>>90581675

Oh yeah, wasn't there supposed to be a "Day Without Women" thing this week? Whatever happened with that?
>>
>>90581618
Collider decided to omit the word "Marvel" from Cate Blanchett's interview because they thought it would sound better... idiots.
>>
there was one in a xman moive she had claws, wolverine killed hur by pumping molten adamantiumit in to her
>>
Okay so TV/film villains, and not counting hencewomen?

Maleficent - Sleeping Beauty
Cersei Baratheon - Game of Thrones
Wicked Witch of the West - Oz
Cruella de Vil - 101 Dalmatians
Catwoman and Poison Ivy - diffrent batman movies
Ursula - The Little Mermaid
Jadis the White Witch - Narnia movies
Queen - Snow White
Yzma - The Emperor's New Groove
Alien Queen - Aliens
whoever Salma Hayek played in Dusk Til Dawn
Mother Gothel - Rapunzel
Samara/Sadako - The Ring
tons of female villains - Buffy/Angel series
tons of female villains - Hercules/Xena series
Borg Queen - Star Trek
Queen of Hearts - Alice In Wonderland
Gozer the Gozerian - Ghostbusters
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>>90609542
Daisy from Hateful 8
Mama from Dredd
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>>90609604
Serleena - Men in Black II
Tiamat - Dungeons & Dragons
Miranda Priestly - Devil Wears Prada
Salem - RWBY
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>>90609542
Cersei's not a villain so much as a dumb bitch who ruins everything just by looking at it.
>>
The entire conversation is stupid. The quote is a direct one from Blanchett, but in context, it's clear she's talking about the MCU movies, and besides some minor female villain sidekicks, she's right. There hasn't yet been one MCU movie where where the villain of the whole story was a woman, from the sound of it, because of Perlmutter.
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>>90581999
Talia in DKR was the main villain, just hidden in plain sight. Bane was her lackey.
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>>90609728
Yeah, but not with good intentions. She's still a villain because even though a lot of her damage comes from ineptitude, she's still driven by jealousy, spite, pride, and an attitude that people not related to her don't matter. And there's the times that she straight up directly does some evil thing like beating Tyrion's whores to get back at him, or trying to get Margaery arrested because she doesn't want to stop being "the queen".
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>>90582213
lol
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>>90581803
>This is the new world we live in, the studios and companies are using outrage to fuel free press for their product.
That's not even what's happening here, it's just an internet publication using a quote out of context to get you to click on their page and talk about it, and it worked.
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>>90609693
Rani from Doctor Who
Charal from Ewoks: The Battle for Endor
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>>90583102
She went into the west, and diminished, and remained Galadriel. After the destruction of the One Ring, the elven rings' power was broken, so she was far less powerful as well.
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>>90587059
There were complaints about massive violence too because the game tried it's fucking hardest at times to give you the worst death but yeah her being a woman wasn't brought up that much.
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>>90582814
Actually, as shitty as Catwoman was, Sharon Stone was fucking great as the villain. She really sold the aging beauty queen who was willing to trade it all for a few more minutes of power thing.
>>
>>90582648
I'm surprised Barneyfag hasn't autismed over this yet.
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>>90581618
>go to that link
it says Marvel's first female villain, fags. But hey, way to fall for the shitpost bait.
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