JSA Storytime: Manhunter

>>90570750
>no more ads
Awwwwww

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>>90570750
so what was good yesterday?

other than Zemo is best boy

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>>90570779
I looked and the ads weren't in the old copy I had anyways for this issue at least

:(

>>90570781
New Super-Man, Deathstroke. Deathstroke is pretty much the only book I feel I'm particularly enjoying being 2 times monthly.

>>90570750
Hello, Storyteller.

>>90570781
Outlaws was solid. I think Artemis is starting to build up a fan base on /co/.

>people we love

good to live in a world where Cap/Zemo is canon

>>90570781

That was so much better than Zub's Zemo, a difference like night and day. The preview made me fear that Spencer would go the same frustrating route as Zub but nope, he was good to Helmut.

>>90570831
>>90570781
Artemis is genuinely great.

Mother Panic came out, with a totally different artist, giving it a very different tone. IvX was a total clusterfuck

>>90570843
Stucky BTFO

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>>90570822
I need to re-read from the top because I'm a little lost at the moment in it, but it's sure not standing still

>>90570843
Zemo is best villain manager because he cares even about Z-list talent. I bet he promotes from within the organization, too.

>>90570859
I need to get to MP. I saw Emma's costume and loled.

>>90570843

I am really curious how Spencer will handle Zemo's relationship with the other Bolts. Especially since he repeatedly said that Zemo has a rough road ahead of him.

>>90570822
I hope the crossover helps the sales enough because I really don't want it to go monthly

>>90570859
I'm looking forward to someone unpicking the current stuff Emma's getting thrown into in a few years. Like Penance or hell, Zemo right now.

>>90570781
Hal n Pals was pretty gory

also Earth 2 Society is finally over, may it rot in hell

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>>90570903
I know some Emma fans and they are *mad*

Love this, Skorpio with a 'k'

>>90570942
how did it end???

>>90570883
>>90570900
It's just really nice to have Priest plotting/pacing every two weeks rather than every month for me. It keeps the book moving and I love that the whole cast is engaged, not just Mr. Stroke. That's so rare now - and to be fair, the Cap book is also making an effort there.

>>90570952
>how did it end???
Happily ever after, Helena is Batman now. Worst Dick is Oracle.

>>90570903

There are plenty of meta digs to make at how Emma was backslid into villainy. Question is just when we'll get there.

>>90570942
Hal and Pals was a friggan Invincible issue. They must be bringing back the Guy is half alien thing
>>90570903
Worst fucking part of that is that it happened in literally 3-4 pages. We saw her going mad slightly through both events, but what happened was just absurd

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>>90570959
the supporting cast in Mr. Stroke is great and I'm legit excited to see that he gave New Peej a feel of who she is in one issue

>>90570991
a few years until some Emma fan gets to write

So is it just me, or are the announced X-books completely either "literally who niche book" or "slight shuffle of house stable writer"?

>>90570952
>how did it end???
everything finally stopped blowing up and the wonders could get back to things like saving kittens and suicide jumpers, Worst Dick was crippled (again) and became Oracle, Helena took over as Batman, Alan is still sad and gay, etc

Earth 2 might have been shit on hardcore and dragged through the mud and stuffed full of Superman/Batman characters but at least it got a decent ending I guess

>>90570883
This issue was slow and let's face it, indulgent for Zemo fans but it was nice to see happen and in combination with the incredibly meta language last issue it makes the way Zemo was at the start of this book a lot easier to digest.

>>90570898
There were some really neat touches in the panels they got. I would have loved to have dialogue there too ofc.

>>90571024
Given that Soule is writing the Astonishing book (no artist last I checked) I fully expect that team to be hunting Emma

>>90570859
>Artemis is genuinely great.
She is. The Bana-Mighdall are basically the same as before too. They'll probably cut out the slavery and rape stuff though.

Also, more Amazons giving off yuri vibes is always a good thing.

>>90571024
>So is it just me, or are the announced X-books completely either "literally who niche book" or "slight shuffle of house stable writer"?
That was pretty much the reaction here as soon as the first couple were announced. There are a few of the former I'm kinda hopeful for.

>>90571035
Very little will top the savagery of that 'world-building' panel.

>>90570999
>Hal and Pals was a friggan Invincible issue. They must be bringing back the Guy is half alien thing
I'd be okay with that

I would settle for bringing the bar back too

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>>90571036
if you don't mind could you post the panels, I haven't read anything this week, just scanned overviews

Oh, I read NSM, that was delightful

>>90571024
Kate is getting into this

>>90571024

Honestly, both the X-Men reboot and the rumored Make Mine Marvel seem less like a Marvel Rebirth and more like Marvel shoddily throw some paint over everything without actually addressing or fixing the problem.

>>90570898
>Especially since he repeatedly said that Zemo has a rough road ahead of him.

I assumed that was the death (or whatever, missed a couple of issues in there). Is it still coming?

I guess there will be some heartbreak when he finds out Steve was just cubed and they're not really BFFs, but I don't know what else we might get.

>>90571102
AKA the exact same problem as the last few years of Marvel

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>>90571102
Rebirth involved Johns flying literally everyone in and talking things through with them, which gives it a touch of cohesion behind the genre/tone variety. Does Marvel have anyone with that range/pull to ride herd? IMO, they should let some of their niche books stay what they are--even if they're not For Me, they are what they are, but...

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>>90571076
>Very little will top the savagery of that 'world-building' panel.
I can't interpret this as anything other than meta commentary, it's too accurate

>>90571156
>Does Marvel have anyone with that range/pull to ride herd?
I'd say Bendis but he comes off as too lazy

Slott would probably volunteer

>>90571099
There are like 6 pages of no dialogue recruitment panels so I'll just link to the thread. There's a plot thread getting added too, which most people seem to think is Zemo recruiting a Pleasant Hill'd Sentry.

>>90536054

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>>90571184
It's too blunt to be anything else

I love it so much

>>90571199
Slott strikes me as deeply unambitious, having reached his dream job.

>>90571099
>I have a reputation! Cool.
Okay, Spencer. You get a point for that.

She's such a consistent fuck up, that it's very satisfying when she finally manages to do something right.

Oh Mr. Bones. How we miss you.

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>>90571073
Yesterday I wondered if anyone had asked Lobdell if that lady was Artemis' girlfriend, and assumed that he would just give an evasive answer. As far as I know, no one has asked him, but looking at his twitter I did notice that he recently wrote a trans comic, which genuinely surprised me.


>>90571077
They have got to be leaning to that, he had a W shirt on, and there is no way even Guy could deal this much damage (pic related) to the guy who stood up to Mongul's son

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>>90571220
This is Chase's past trauma

>>90571131

We don't know yet. Spencer did also say that Helmut would eventually get to look at himself and go 'wtf am I even doing?' and I don't think we have reached that point yet.

>>90571220
>Slott strikes me as deeply unambitious, having reached his dream job.
yeah I guess now that he has a blood contract to stay on Spider-Man forever he doesn't need to be Dan Slott, Continuity Cop anymore

I really don't know who Marvel has left other than those two who's enough of a name to be their Johns

>>90571131
>I guess there will be some heartbreak when he finds out Steve was just cubed and they're not really BFFs, but I don't know what else we might get.
So I don't really expect it from Spencer but I'm never gonna ignore the possibility for a betrayal from Zemo there. You know a "Steve you're clearly insane. But your idea is workable" It would be perfect, this thread would fucking come.

>>90571246
>there is no way even Guy could deal this much damage (pic related) to the guy who stood up to Mongul's son
eh, he SHOULDN'T have been able to but GL is always strong on the humanwank, I'm not taking it as evidence that they're bringing the Vuldarian stuff back

last issue he was also wearing the biker jacket from before Warrior but I'm not taking it as evidence that he's getting a yellow ring again either

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>>90571270
My sine qua non is that Helmut finds out Bobby is wearing HIS COSTUME and there's some reckoning

>>90571237
no spoiler, but we're on the upswing on Kate's competence, now

>>90571246
I don't know what the editorial limits are but certainly you can have Apollo and Midnighter making out on-panel now. I feel like girls not kissing girls isn't as restrictive especially with C-list characters, and I assume that was Lobdell's decision not to confirm.

>>90571325

Keikaku off between Bobby and Helmut would make me come diamonds.

>>90571246
Apparently someone DID ask him. He said something to the effect of "she doesn't see gender". Which to me suggests she's bisexual because Amazons. I was all ready to complain when someone posted that tweet, but nah, that's about right.

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>>90571373
it's so obvious it has to be done, there's no other reason to have put Bobby in that suit

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>>90571405
I, too, have beer! And beer.

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>>90571435
And now you see how what Andreyko set up for many an issue is coming through

>>90571435
Honestly this sitcom-y cohabiting could've been a Young Animal book.

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>>90571468

>>90570859
>IvX was a total clusterfuck
So I heard. Honestly, were people really surprised?

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>>90571485
I would read it

Ex-mook and recovering past-villain/past-hero: they drink beer together and fight crime

>>90571156
Johns and Morrison are the biggest names I'd probably pick who have that "headcanons for everyone" sort of thing. And neither is at Marvel right now of course.

>>90571529
I don't think people were prepared for just how awful the "solution" was and the "let's literally make Emma a mutant Hitler" in a span of six pages

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>>90571533
OUCH

Yes, Bones killed Sylvester Pemberton. He didn't meant to, but he did.

>>90571529

The Inhuman fans must feel horribly monkey's pawed by the way Marvel decided to push them. And with that showrunner at the helm they won't even get a decent MCU series out of it.

>>90571554
How does a skeleton smoke I wonder?

>>90571590
he actually has skin and muscles and stuff, they're just invisible

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>>90571609
Bones is fascinatingly weird from the mind of Roy Thomas, bless his heart

>>90571548
what does she do?

>>90571554
>I wanna know if she's got long-term potential, or a two-year run.
Pfft. That's not meta AT ALL.

>>90570781
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>>90571548
Oh yeah, that cartoonish red button lol
I wonder how everyone involved sleeps well at night after that.

>>90571589
>Inhuman fans
Those exist? :^)

>>90571642
Nova is great, shame it's doomed.

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>>90571642

>>90571533
I just imagine them not getting on. I mean, can you picture splitting the chores?

>>90571658

>Those exist? :^)

Not anymore.

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>>90571698
>Those exist? :
Yes sadly marvel ruined then.

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>>90571642
I will definitely read Nova.

I'm fucking dying at 'Skinimax' here, because SO TRUE

>>90570859
>IvX was a total clusterfuck
anybody have a link to the storytime? I can't find it in the archive

>>90570952
It got a happy ending, but it was an ENDING, and that's good enough.

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>>90571722
>Amanda doesn't deserve you

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>>90571637

Emma Literally summoned Inhuman-Hunting Sentinels that she mind controlled Forge into building, and used them to blow up zeppelins that contained Ahura's people (innocent in the conflict)

>>90571737
Preacher is storytiming the whole thing now. Yesterday's storytime autosaged.

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>>90571766
well that's not mass murder or anything

>>90571737

Last Issue:
>>90528369

Preacher Entire thing (minus Death of X)
>>90571222

>>90571766
THE ONLY GOOD INHUMAN
IS A DEAD INHUMAN

>>90571772
I want to read the reactions to the issue more than the issue itself, though

there'll probably be some good stuff in the new thread though, thank you

>>90571792
>>90571797
thanks lads

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>>90571786
HE DID

>>90570857
I'm going to no-prize it as Kobik emitting a passive flanderization field that dumbs down people in her vicinity to how they'd be viewed by a child. Bucky has the most personality and gets fellated so much because he's Kobik's favorite.

>>90571815
>thanks lads
You welcome anon.

>>90571786

Some angry Emma fan will write her someday and will have a field day with this shit.

>>90571766
>>90571786
I actually like the bottom panel with Emma in the sentinel's fist but lol, it's like they didn't quite sell Cyclops as Hitler so they've got to go 100% out the gate with Emma.

>>90571766
You ever get the feeling a company just absolutely detests their fanbase?

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>>90571818
I had someone post the Red Skull saying Hydra is Nazis panel at me today, and so I went and looked up the context again, and found out that it was so immediately hated by fandom that it got the writer fired and it got retconned including a full-text page from Tony Isabella in an issue of Daredevil *three years later*

>>90571868
There's something special about the freakouts over CAP IS A NAZI and [Emma Frost literally genocides a minority group] going unregarded too.

>>90571609
Thanks!

>>90571868

I suspect they originally wanted to go full mutant hitler with Scott but reconsidered later.

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>>90571786
Those zeppelins contained the entire tribe of people that the Prince ruled, so she did murder a large group of people

>>90571901
>literally genocides a minority group
Oh please. If the shithumans can't stand the heat they can fuck off back to the moon where they belong

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>>90571927
So they're actually dead, not just "Oh, she blew it up, but everyone somehow survived"?

>>90571898
Honestly I don't feel it matters now OP. I see this 'the wider awareness is of movie HYDRA' all over the place as the justifying argument now. And I'd like to see that link back to the original CapNazi stuff which was fueled at least in significant part by clickbait but the facts are they don't like it and they don't like Spencer so anything that can be said, will be.

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>>90571959
I would love for Attilan to go back to the moon.

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>>90571988
To be fair, it's not like any of them were actually real characters.

>>90571901

I am still amused that lots of progressive comics types who dump on the Hydra Cap story for existing are super into Squirrel Girl. Which features Brain Drain, who is a Nazi war criminal, as a good guy and supporting character.

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>>90572004
Oh, absolutely. It's beyond the realm of taming now, but I'm still fascinated by the moving goalposts, such as "They could have used AIM!"

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>>90572044
Oh, of course not, that would have taken time and effort to do

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>>90572101
Oh man, someone else's expense account is exactly when you go there--must be a steakhouse.

>>90571220
She says that, but potato bugs are downright eldritch.

>>90572058

I am willing to bet that people would have flipped their shit about AIM, too, considering how tied to Hydra it is.

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>>90572147
"Could have used AIM" is 1) a complete misuse of post-Gru AIM 2) not possible with Ewing's dibs 3) a post hoc redirection argument not made in good faith

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>>90572184
this is everything

>>90572184

And it would be a real shame to reset AIM to villainy this quickly.

>>90572235
lmao

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>>90572235
Okay, don't go wade in, but here's a positive view of the Emma stuff from a long-time X-fan:

tinyurl dot com slash hkwdjdt

I'm curious about your thoughts

>>90572270
AIM is also technocratic and that's really not a fit with the Steve themes here

Y'know, all this "go back to the moon" stuff makes me wonder why the fuck the X-Men don't just leave Earth. Set things up with the Shi'ar, make the announcement offering any mutants who want out to come along, and just fuck off to somewhere you won't be treat like shit for daring to exist.

>b-but muh principles
No ideal is worth this amount of bullshit. Like shit, even Dr. King himself would've same d NOPE once the government started sending giant robots after people. Goddamn.

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>>90572423
There were hints dropped that the Remender X-relaunch would have been in spaaaace, at least partly

>>90572357

Yeah, AIM is more cyberpunk dystopia material and less what Spencer is going for.

>>90572423
Well, why should they leave? It's their home too. I think you do lose something once the dream starts to fade out and you mostly have two groups of genetic freaks kicking the shit out of each other but I suppose mutant stories were ALWAYS that in a way.

There has been X-Cosmic stuff before, it wouldn't be out of nowhere. And it'd be novel.

>>90572423
That's what Remender wanted to do, he was setting up a "Planet X" storyline, but Marvel didn't let him take over the franchise so he left.

>>90571722
What is skinimax? Is it like skin+cinemax, so porn?

>>90572357
Personally I don't disagree with that (especially the outfit being the unforgivable part).

>>90572472
Would love to see AIM's employee policy booklet.

>>90572235
I legit just lol'd. It's the face that really sells it.

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>>90572462
I eagerly await the day Remender tells-all because that last page he did for Marvel reeked of the meta fuck you I love so much

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>>90572506
Late night Cinemax was basically soft core

>>90572481
>>90572462
>>90572423
Wonder if that was due to or inspired the return of The Inhumans (alongside synergy that is)

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>>90572551
IIRC it was pretty late in the process that something happened and Lemire came on, so it reeks of editorial intervention

>>90572476
They should leave because it'd be easier than having to fight killer robots every damn week.

>>90572476
>>90572481

Quick, is it only Alternate Universe stuff that has the idea that the mutants have to be on earth to protect some Celestial egg, otherwise the Celestials will show up to fuck shit up?

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>>90572604
Whoops!

(we'll get back to this)

>>90572357
Oh, Jay (otherwise known as Rachel). Yeeeaaaaah,I don't know, like if you see some characterization you like there (let's not forget that Emma hasn't always been on the side of angels) that's fine, but don't try to justify this clusterfuck as a well-written story, because it's not. It's so fucking obvious every writer involved has been flip-flopping with Scott and Emma's character arc all this time, with no real endgame in mind, just doing what Marvel told them to do. I honestly can't defend garbage writing like that, I mean, I want to work for Marvel, but if they tried to make me write some editorially-mandated trash I'll walk out right then and there. Fuck that noise, I'm no yes-man.

>>90572621
Given how many people seem to think Earth-X is canon, it's a little of both.

>>90572621
I think it started in Earth X and then got picked up elsewhere? Not sure myself, X-Anon probably knows.

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>>90572621
I think Hickman made noises about the Celestial Egg late in his F4? But who the fuck knows what's canon there and not because that run kind of retroactively nuked itself for me.

>>90571959
Little hard for them to leave NOW THAT THEY'RE ALL DEAD

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>>90572673

>>90572044
Not even Soule's OCs?

>>90572621
They were created by the Celestials, yes, but I don't think the Celestial egg part is canon to 616.

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>>90572710
Mark is a bit...well...

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>>90572776

>>90572752
There were no named characters in those zeppelins.

>>90572752
FUCK Soule's OCs. Probably the only characters I would shit on if I ever wrote for Marvel.

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>>90572808

>>90572812
Zeppelins full of nameless OCs. That's amazingly dumb on so many levels.

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>>90572846
Dr. Moon is a pretty deep cut

Honestly I think I hate the whole X vs I thing, not just this event, most for just wasting the potential it could have had. It's never been clever or interesting about it, ever. It's just been DEATH CLOUD and total fucking idiots.

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>>90572872

>>90572910
no one wants to do fun political drama

>>90572872
Reminds me of Yuureitou.

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>>90572917
>>90572910
when is "versus" not dumb, in modern comics

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>>90572958
OH SHI-

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>>90572992
Hey, so issue 19 is the end of the arc, let's get there tonight, yes?

>>90572604
Dylan best boy

>>90573055
Get the fuck out of here

>>90573040
>let's get there tonight, yes?
Sure thank you

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>>90573040

>>90572992
neat.jpg

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>>90573055
Dylan is great

>>90572845
What's wrong with Reader?

>>90572949
Political drama? FUCK THAT ME WANT FIGHTING!!!!!11111

>>90572958
Pretty much never. It was already a heavily mocked cliche for heroes to fight each other for no reason, and now it's a regular occurrence, without even a villain for them to team up against.

Honestly, I blame Death Battle for making this power levels wanking crap even worse than it already was. Nobody cares about stories anymore, it's all about who would beat who in a fight.

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>>90573133

>>90572846
>Green nail polish
...you have my attention

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>>90573174

>>90573173
I think the general vs discussions can be interesting/fun from the perspective of remembering and comparing feats but yeah, doesn't need to happen on page.

>>90573155
He was created by Soule.

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>>90573214
>>90573216
battles that actually get into interesting solutions or are good expositions of character are difficult, too much work for most writers

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>>90573245
This kinda line - "My kid is superhuman, how do I feel about that as a mom?" where the mom is the central character - is nice to see in such an established supers universe. Not a lot treads there, it's kinda Astro City-ish even.

i like how this book using so many c and z listers

>>90572992
>it's a "look how cool we are for referencing the golden age!" episode
Zzzzzz

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>>90573289
HI TODD!!!

>>90573302
it gives it real texture in the DCU

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>>90573314
no spoilers but stay tuned

so yes, this is a little retcon-ish, but I don't think it's bullshit like Iceman, no

>>90573133
Oh god unf

>>90573245

I think FabNic and Busiek were both good at that imo.

>>90571396
A single-gender society is impossible (given that SOME mixed sex presence is necessary just to procreate), so we really have very little idea of just how people growing up in said society would be affected by it, in terms of sexuality. I mean, even people growing up in incredibly patri/matriarichal "virtually" single-sex environments are still, like, aware of the other side of things, outside of some super fucked-up "raised in a basement" parents-were-criminals backgrounds.

"Not seeing gender" is as plausible as anything, really.

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>>90573356
Did anyone read the latest Jessica Jones? I know someone who's loving the plot but said basically "Luke Cage calling a woman a bitch/that word everywhere is still bad and unnecessarily"

>>90573403
Who the fuck is loving the plot.

>>90573238
>>90573155
Nahhhh, but seriously, Reader is probably the one character I actually have some plans for. That dog of his has to go though (PS I love dogs)

>>90573289
>I'll beat Peter to death with Ramsey
I don't recall Al being this much of an edgelord. Of course, I don't quite recall him being evil either, but eh.

>>90573403

I have seen people complaining about Bendis shitting on Luke.

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>>90573403
I kind of love how Phobia just owns her kink

>>90573415
He likes the idea of "JJ uncovers Secret Wars", but also likes Bendis a lot more than I do. Not my place to judge too hard.

>>90573434
I'm interested in that take

>>90573430
This is Al's son, supposedly

>>90573430
That's not Al senpai.

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>>90573424
Have you seen the Franciscan brothers who adopted a schnauzer and he has his own little robes and oh my god it's so cute

>>90573445
Phobia IS her kink.

>>90573445
Phobia best girl

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>>90573489

>>90573324
>Todd
>Chummy with a gay guy
Heeeey, finally someone I know.
Why isn't his last name Scott?

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>>90573544
when is last FOOLKILLER out?

>>90573562
because he was raised by an adoptive family and he never changed his name after he met Alan

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>>90573562
He and Jennie-Lynn kept their adoptive parents' names, even given the complexity of their relationships

>>90573577

I think on 22th together with Spencer's ZemoxSteve.

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>>90573602
speaking of them, I hope they come back with the JSA and I will die on the hill that Old Married Alan is important rep even though it's "going back" from Young Gay Alan

Yes, I know people get het married and then later say "I'm gay!", but that kind of self-denial is not, IMO, an Alan Scott story.

>>90573615

fanfiction.

>>90573489
Aw man, I love schnauzers! Cute little mustachioed puppers.

>>90572506
Back in the days of old (is it still around for old people who don't use the internet?), Cinemax was notorious for basically being soft-core porn come nightfall. I mean, skinimax was a pretty common joke.

There was a time when not-wealthy underaged folks would watch scrambled channels (like cinemax) hoping to catch a boob. The internet...kind of changed a lot.

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>>90573641
>>90573662
that was my doggus. I miss him. And his real owner. Fuck.

>>90573445
Phobia is doing things to my little guy...

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>>90573685
your kink is not judged by us

>>90572628
Poor dude. He was scummy but he didn't deserve that

>>90573641
Earth 2 proved that nothing good will come of Gay Alan so I will happily take Old Married Alan back

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>>90573662
>>90573489

>>90573641
Should be able to have both. Most people didn't bitch too much about two Wallys but I guess it would be different because E2 is cancelled.

Hi thread! I missed everything cause it's already nine. Fuck!

>>90573719
that's the cutest thing I've ever seen

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>>90573704
quick interruption to show the doggus in his prime as a young doggus

>>90573749

What a cutie.

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>>90573718
Young Gay Alan was fine under Robinson and I'd still kill to know why Sam died, goddammit

>>90573732
HI ANON

sadly we are off until next Tuesday, which is when I am off again

>>90573780
he was the best. he was so handsome.

>>90573677
Ha. Ha. Silence of the Lambs. I get it.

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>>90573787
That was also his favorite place in the world to sit, right outside the back door, and woof to say "HEY LET ME IN" and if you wouldn't, he'd just park there so he could follow you when you went out.

>>90573787
>Young Gay Alan was fine under Robinson and I'd still kill to know why Sam died, goddammit
yeah, that's true, and Robinson sounded like he intended to give a new love interest (seriously the last issue of E2S had him looking at a photo of Sam! there was time skipping, you could have shown him with a new dude!)

but why have things like "interesting sublots" when you could just kill everything instead!

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>>90573724
The Wally stuff is surprisingly elegant bullshit that works, IDK if they'd want to do alt-universe Alans or what. I suspect not, but I have no idea what Superman is doing right now

>>90573835
For me the real fascinating thing with Sam is that by making it so whatever he was up to that got him killed, it was like a retroactive un-fridging despite the death because there was motivation

>>90573787
Once Robinson left...it was all downhill for all of the characters.

>>90573787
>likes big girls
>"I'd rather you were on top"
Is he, dare I say it, /ourguy/?

>>90573749
>>90573813
Don't make me feel these things, OP

>>90572058

Lol at not knowing AIM has been good guys for like years now

>>90573854
Whelp he ded

>>90573854
btfo

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>>90573869
It was, it was

>>90573886
I still dream and cry at night sometimes

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>>90573934
oops?

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>>90573963

>>90573934
The inability to remember your dreams is a blessing I'm lucky enough to have received. I don't know how I'd manage if they stayed with me.

>>90573963
Goddammit, Kate! You incompetent wench. You're like, allergic to not fucking up or something.

>>90573963
F

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>>90574010

>>90574011
I usually have my best creative ideas in that kinda half-dream state. I can usually ease into it just as I go to sleep/wake up.

Marvel giving Secret Empire a big multi-media push is fantastic, kinda can't wait to see the rage.

oh you guys'll know when i'm in charge at marvel because "person went temporarily crazy because of loved one's death" is gonna be my go to retcon for so much of this junk (Emma, Civil War 2)

>>90573854
Superman seems like a Red/Blue thing right now. Which they probably didn't need to drag out like this, but whatever. Only NSM is worth reading out of those books.

>>90574010
>bulge

>>90574038
>>90573749
F

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>>90574034
>>90574038
LOL

>>90570883
>name is Skorpio
>looks absolutely nothing like a Scorpion.
>>90570952
>Venomous Stinger gloves

Ehhh, okay screw it. That works. Be better if he kinda looked like a Scorpion. Or at least used the Scorpio symbol or something.

Seriously man, there's a reason you're in SoCal and are about to be killed by a blueballed Lawyer in a set of eclectic stolen gear.

>>90574066

i am monthly in awe of NSM, when the hell is the trade coming

>>90574066
>Supersons isn't worth reading
Found the shitter

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>>90574082
that's my bitch

>>90574108
It's coming out in June, sadly.

>>90573854
The Superman books are great right now.

>>90574110
Found the pedophile.

>>90574082
Holy shit rekt

>>90574123

i hope the book can ride on Yang's rep, i can't imagine good sales

>>90574082
>psi-dampeners
Oh come on! How far did you have to reach up your ass to pull that one out?

>>90574128
I'm reading it for Maya____

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>>90574119
vintage iPod!!!!

>>90574108
I really like Bogdanovic's wry faces

how about a comic set in China written by a Chinese-American guy and drawn by a Swiss-born living in Germany dude with a Balkan (I think) last name, eh?

>>90574164
It was set up with Martian Manhunter, remember?

>>90574123
Makes little sense given the Titans trade is already out.

>>90572423
Do you think anyone really wants to be a refugee? Even in the best of circumstances, you're going to be completely dependent on the kindness of strangers, and given Earth's reputation on the Galactic stage, not to mention VULCAN'S time in office with the Shi'ar giving human mutants such a great name, I'm sure that, while they might not be dealing with Marvel Civilians anymore, they would be dealing with surly Marvel Aliens, which wouldn't be much of an upward trade.

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>>90574190

>>90574221
Otp?

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>>90574234
mmmmaybe

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>>90574270

>>90574234
If I ever meet a shipper in real life, I am going to murder them. You "people" are a cancer on society.

>>90572776
Mark is a very complicated guy.

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>>90574356
Infinite Crisis was not good to Jennie

I've gotta crash out, night all. If you're not on over the weekend I might try and run some stuff.

>>90570750
I forget
Director Bones is black, right?

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>>90574383

>>90574383
Cool Metropolis poster.

>>90574383
Was Damon intending to cheat on Todd with Hawkman?

>>90574399
yes

>>90574409
clearly he was angling for a threesome

Todd is probably smart enough not to bang his dad's coworkers though

>>90574399
Y

>>90571533
Okay, so somebody asked why Bones seemed to be meaner and more manipulative in Batwoman than he is in Manhunter.

My only theory is, Andrekyo doesn't share Blackman's view of Spooks.
Because, Bones is a government spook. The leader of an Alphabet Agency where secrecy and manipulation is the name of the game.

And before you even say the DEO can't possibly be as bad as the FBI or CIA, let me now remind you, the DEO detained children, and did it in a manner that wouldn't fly if used on the worst CMU holding "domestic terrorists" never mind a child.

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>>90574399
He is. This will be relevant much, much later.

>>90574409
Hawkman is, like, an exception, you know? It's not cheating, it's HAWKMAN.

>>90574064
For some reason I don't see getting normies to read an event that they've missed like two years of buildup on will work out.

Not a bad idea to generally market like that though.

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>>90574458
>>90574461
I'm here for the popcorn.gif

>>90574461

only like a year of real build up though, Standoff was the starting gun.

>>90574444

>And before you even say the DEO can't possibly be as bad as the FBI or CIA

I honestly assumed they were worse and I barely touch that area of the DCU

>>90570750
Boopyboopyboop late ass phone posting. How are you all. How bout data Red Hood?

I hope HYDRACap is collected easily. How DC's doing KingBats is spoiling me.

i dont wanna buy civil war 2 :(

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>>90574518
I am actually way, way behind on Red Hood

I am failing in devotion to mai waifu

I like Kate's internal monologue boxes in this run.

>>90574458
>He is. This will be relevant much, much later.
Ugh. A character's race/orientation/gender should never be emphasized or touched upon, cause it always leads to cringey bullshit. Just let characters be, dammit.

>>90574549
Those last 2 panels lol

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>>90574576
Oh, it's not cringey, it kicks like a motherfucker, but I'm not going to spoil it.

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>>90574597
>>90574580
I love Kate's rapefaces

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>>90574631
Why didn't Batwoman (as a comic, not just her) snap like this, under Andreyko?

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>>90574668
holy shit

that's hardcore

remember Gates doing that to Ra's?

>>90574576
Possibly memeing, but sometimes it can be fun. Like in Thunderbolts when Abe was turned black.

>>90574693

i miss gates

>>90571077
One of the reasons GL Corps Recharge was the best thing about GL Rebirth was Guy reopening Warriors on Oakland.

>>90574693
gnarly

>>90574693
Teleportation can be pretty horrific when you think about it.

>>90574693
Nice.

>>90574774
Remember the first Star Trek movie?

>>90572423
>Y'know, all this "go back to the moon" stuff makes me wonder why the fuck the X-Men don't just leave Earth. Set things up with the Shi'ar, make the announcement offering any mutants who want out to come along, and just fuck off to somewhere you won't be treat like shit for daring to exist.
Because more mutants will be born, and won't be able to run off to Asgard or Space or whatever. And not have the net of support that the current crop of mutants supply.

Such as it is anyway.

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>>90574753
We all miss Gates. He was maybe the most compelling single new aspect of all of Reboot.

>>90574774
Dan Simmons' Hyperion has a fascinating horrific take on FTL that's kind of like teleportation

Just don't read Ilium/Olympos, those are a goddamn crushing disappointment

>>90574549
>I like Kate's internal monologue boxes in this run
It'd be nice if she had anything interesting to say.

>>90574597
It's automatically cringey. Nobody cares about these subjects in any substantial capacity. Notice how when people champion the inclusion of diverse characters, they never actually talk about the exploration of social issue pertaining to that character's demographic. The reason is because stories like that suck, and nobody actually wants to read that kind of crap.

>>90574774
Bones was right

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>>90574810
oh shit

Keep this generally in mind much later

don't give him any (You)s

>>90574810

Now I want all the collections of Reboot Legion to have Gates-centric covers/book design

>Dan Simmons' Hyperion has a fascinating horrific take on FTL that's kind of like teleportation

King's The Jaunt is here and laughing at you

It's longer than you think, Dad! Longer than you think!

>>90574810
Hyperion Cantos was great. The Horrific FTL was in the second half of the series though. That first book is tailor made for a comic-miniseries

>>90574668
I know it's just to sound edgy but Ric Flair proves blood smeared across blonde hair looks amazing

>>90574878
>It's longer than you think, Dad! Longer than you think!
Wanted to see! I saw!

man that story creeped me out

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>>90574885
I haven't re-read in forever but there's a hell of a lot in there. But that latter duology? Crushing disappointment. Ugh. And not even just for the ideological lecture.

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>>90574936
INFINITE CRISIS TIME~

I love you owls but I also love having a job--I'll see you on Tuesday. You can always find me at the expected place. Thanks for reading.

>>90574878
Bruh, the Cantos thing was metal:
Spoilers for what the travel is from the second half of the series
The vast majority of people in the new empire-state have parasites that can rebuild them when they stay in Pax territory. The FTL involves people (Jesuit shock troops in this case) get in resurrection creches and get ripped apart from the FTL speed. Their bodies then regenerate a week later. This is still faster than the regular space travel

>>90574936
Have you kept up on how insane Simmons is now? He would not write some of the shit from that second half now

>>90574885

is it all worth reading? i got the first one at goodwill for like a buck and haven't started yet

i assume all sci fi series are like Dune where one is good and the rest is whatever.

>>90574971
Thanks as always OP

>>90574977
The first two can be read alone and then expanded with the second two if you choose, but I think they're a satisfying coherent whole no matter which option you take. There's some stuff in the second half that I came to like quite a bit for its radical sincerity.

>>90574973
I have not, and now I'm scared.

>>90574859
Wut

>>90574859
I remember hearing that a large percentage of pregnancies end with a miscarriage. But the vast majority of those are within the first few weeks of pregnancy where you might not know.

>>90574971
cheers OP

>>90571156
>Does Marvel have anyone with that pull
Bendis, but who the he'll respects him?

>>90574936
That bottom panel looks like the flashback scene from a manga where you learn the kid's (now much older) motivations for being heroic.

>>90574936
Supervillain origin for the kid right there

>>90575039
Basically, yes. Spontaneous abortion happens regularly.

>>90574971
Thanks, OPrah.

>>90574971
Thanks for posting as always, Storyteller.

I dunno, Kate's just not doing anything for me. She's an asshole, but just isn't competent or charming enough to make up for it. Maybe this will get better, but I'm not holding out hope. Sorry to be harsh, but dishonesty would be disingenuous.

>>90574977
First book is a bunch of short stories connected via frame device towards the greater story. Almost all of the stories are great in that one. The second book, the Fall of Hyperion, is an amazing trainwreck as seen in the title (in the best way). The other two books are best read after a while, because they are tangentially related to the first two (taking place hundreds of years later). Comparing them to the first two would be a mistake.
If you have played Mass Effect, you might be very familiar with how some of the systems in the book work.

>>90575009
From a review of one of his latest books, Flashback:
>Dan Simmons’s “Flashback” is an abundantly entertaining, often outrageous right-wing fantasy about a weak, broken United States 20-odd years from now. The country is ruled over by the Japanese, lives in fear of the Islamic Global Caliphate, and its citizens mostly spend their time stoned on a drug called flashback that lets them escape to a better past. Some of the events that have occurred between now and the early 2030s can be summed up thusly:

>U.S. Goes Bankrupt

>Israel Destroyed by Nuclear Attack

>Mexican Army

>Invades California

>Sharia Law Rules

>Europe, Canada

>Giant Mosque

>Built at Ground Zero

>U.S. Down

>to 44½ States

>There’s more, but you get the idea. And if you haven’t guessed, the blame for almost all these disasters lies with the fellow who was elected president of the United States in 2008.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/book-review-flashback-by-dan-simmons/2011/07/19/gIQA62F6lI_story.html

>>90575105
That's fair. I love how she gets to be an asshole, and make mistakes, and be abrasively human and fuck up but overall be good at her job, and she grows a lot as we've seen in competence, and she has a strong POV about why she's doing what she's doing. She's not airbrushed and idealized and YAAS QUEEN at all.

>>90574971
Hey look it's MF Doom.

>>90575105
I think what I like about it so far is that it uses the setting pretty well. Like I know I'm nostalgic for the history of the DCU and all but I appreciate the sort of referential nature of it. And it does it while managing not to feel like namedropping just for that purpose. Just kind of "this is what a lesser hero is doing while all the crazy shit is going on" thing.

>>90571590
He's actually just a black guy with invisible flesh.

>>90572958
When it's a personal bout between two characters. When both sides have a legitimate gripe and the company itself encourages you to take sides.

Civil War was shit.
But debating and arguing about Superhero Registration was fuck as fuck.

All Marvel had to do was make it as much a matter of the future of the species for the Inhumans as it was for the Mutants.

Destroy the Cloud, no more Terrigenesis, no more inhumans. Leave it, it kills and sterilizes the mutants, no more mutants.

Leaving both sides to either fight to destroy the other or find some way to contain or render it harmless.

Hank, would be the mutant going for the latter, Scott the former.

I'm not well read enough on the Inhumans to think of which one would go hardline and which one wouldn't.

>>90573430
This isn't Al, friendo. This is his shitty son.

Boy, did Alan ever do well by comparison in the JSA bad parenting olympics.

>>90571988
A diet that makes you invisible is so plausible in a superhero un8verse.

>>90571766
Reminder that Marvel's been pushing Cassasndra Nova coming back as a good guy for basically forever.

>>90573356
Eh, Todd had a really screwed up life from his childhood onward, his suddenly being revealed to realize he's gay was one of his most stable moments as a character.

I really wouldn't consider it a retcon, because it's really not much different than how a lot of people come to realize their sexuality/gender issues/etc. Somewhat out of left field isn't uncommon for how people figure this stuff out for themselves.

Having a telepath tell it to you in a way that REALLY seems like they're brainfucking you...is not good.

>>90572141
Musso and Frank's is Hollywood Institution going back to ther Golden Age

>>90572141
Musso and Frank's is an Old Hollywood institution. I think it's more famous for attracting celebs than anything food wise.

>>90573719
Why are monks so much better than priests in every way (except for child molesting, I guess)?

>>90575545
Also, Todd has a bit in JLA where he's pointedly ambiguous about his sexual identity, so it wasn't just riding on nothing or erasing everything else

>>90575623
Andreyko's an LA guy

>>90573430
Walter.

Walter Pratt. So, that means Kate is related to Atom Smasher and Damage?

>>90574383
>Alan has to break the news of Jade to his son who is clearly done some ass fucking

Goddamn I loved the relationship Alan had with his kids. Hopefully we get that back.

>>90573489
Oh hey, somebody knows what Mt. Whitney looks like!

Although to be fair I don't know what you do in Lone Pine other than "prepare to hike in the Whitney Zone".

>>90575878
this will be fully answered later

>>90573641
>Yes, I know people get het married and then later say "I'm gay!", but that kind of self-denial is not, IMO, an Alan Scott story.

It is extremely important to me that a Alan Scott be an old man who kept redeeming his female villains with the power of Hot Dickings.
Also Harlequin was a qt.

>>90573749
;_;

>>90574164
They really did set that up way in advance, though. It was earned.

>>90574383
Honestly, it was better than the hitjob they did on her with the "cheating on Kyle" thing.

Shit, I just doublechecked some details on that and found this post on a forum:

>I never understood why Kyle didn't create a giant green axe and behead her?

>I'd have done that to the bitch that made me a cuckold.

>>90576573
Never change, fanboys

also lol cucks

>>90575074
Regularly enough that it kind of makes the whole "life at conception" and "dead babies have souls" beliefs have some REALLY weird and disturbing implications, let alone the hardcore religious-justified opposition to intentional medically induced abortion having some bizarre hypocritical overtones.

The female reproductive system is not a very efficient one, as nature goes.

>>90576618
This was from 2010, too, so it wasn't even tied into that wonderful current trend in buzzwording.

>>90575671
>>90575109
>Monks and Hyperion in the same thread
I am okay with this coincidence. The first book is very much inspired by the Canterbury Tales, if you're into that kind of thing.

>>90576919
It's a total kludge and it makes me want to strangle anyone who goes on about how perfectly designed human bodies are.