>Didnt even try to save Wally Can someone explain to me what

>>90543400
Barry only cares about saving Iris, simple as that.

>>90543400
He was a rival for Iris' affection.

He was an asshole in season 1 too. Tried to manipulate Iris into leaving Eddie as if he had some kind of claim on her just because he knew her longer.

Flash is the worst comic book show on tv

Given the shit he puts up with from his friends he's a borderline saint.

>>90543587
>Tried to manipulate Iris into leaving Eddie

Not really. He enjoyed flirting with her because she was wet over the Flash but he never made a play until time travel shenanigans reared their head and he got a punch in the face for all his trouble.

>>90543604
Agents of SHIELD exists.

Barry is savitar. Savitar is Barry when he keeps fucking around with the timeline.

>>90543400
He knows Wally is a spook

>>90543400
The darkness withing told him it had to be that way, he sensed it in the speed force
>>90543606
like what? except for frost stealing the shard

What was he going to do, pull Wally? Tear him in two?

>>90544082
yes, or fuck go with him. he had been in the speed force before so he has experience

>>90543400
>haven't followed the flash since early season 2

What's happening? Did Barry destroy a multiverse too?

>>90544332
Almost did.

Also fucked with the timeline because reasons, killed discos brother, let reverse flash loose, and refuses to go back and tell himself to take a chill pill

That's why I know Barry is the main villain of this season

>>90544332
no. Wally was controlled into taking a stone shard into the speedforce so now megatron will destroy the city.barry did not save wally and now he is trapped in the speed force. also it tuns out barry was megatron all along

>>90543465
>>90543473
Does he actually love Iris though? Even in his proposal he spent 2/3 of the speech talking about the ring rather than her. Her main plus to him seems to be that he says she makes him a better person. Iris feels more like some sort of trophy teenage Barry wanted.

Though until she found out he was the Flash Iris treated him like a dickless gay best friend. So they're probably made for each other.

>>90544862
true and true

>it's a "Flash is distracted by something for five seconds and the villain gets away" episode

>>90544968
If the flash were so fast, why doesn't he become distracted for only .5 seconds?

Clearly he is doing it on purpose, that demented fuckhead

>>90544968
its more like
>Flash got there and just looked

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You see this face, /co/?. This is the face of someone who knows he's been rattled. This is the face of someone who knows he's been exposed. This is the face of someone who know he needs to dispose of someone

THIS

FACE

IS

PURE

EVIL


SAVITAR WAS RIGHT!

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>>90545400
And here we have the villain of the season planning how to eliminate the threat that is in front of him

>>90545400
>>90545448

It's almost like..he's the same .person

>>90543400
Every thread.

1. Flash and co. unethically, illegally detain criminals in small cells.
2. Flash and co. are responsible for the deaths of several of these criminals.
3. Flash knocked out Julian, a civilian, just to shut him up. Imagine if you read a story about a cop doing the same -- you would be pissed, right?
4. Flash refuses to beat up female villains, only ever pushing or cuffing them. Meanwhile, male villains, even those that perform minor crimes, get beaten to a pulp by him.
5. Flash has altered the timeline how many times? How many lives has he erased? How many lives has he created? How many lives has he changed? He really doesn't seem that remorseful over all this.
6. There is no reason for villains like Plunder to be a threat to the Flash at all.
7. Why are the writers so afraid of having Flash or the Rogues perform any tricks with their abilities?
8. After 3 seasons, are you really going to tell me that the team doesn't trust each other enough to not hold secrets?

Defend any of these.

>>90543400
>Didnt even try to save Wally
Wally should not have narc'd on berry saying he only married Iris because in the future vision they were unmarried so he used the marriage to change the future a little.

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>>90545514

>>90545538
>7. Why are the writers so afraid of having Flash or the Rogues perform any tricks with their abilities?
budget
>Julian
you forgot conscript him and force him into dangerous mind destroying experiments
>After 3 seasons, are you really going to tell me that the team doesn't trust each other enough to not hold secrets?
at this point I would be more secretive than ever. its like vampire diaries

>>90543604
That's not how you spell Arrow

>>90543400
This

I've been thinking this since I saw the episode - if wally could fight the pull of the breach, although failing to completely free himself of its hold, then Barry could have at least tried to come from the side and attempt to pull him off with extreme speed
But he just watched wally struggle to get free

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>>90545448
And here is an innocent bystander speaking the truth about the situation

>>90545782
That's not how you spell IronFist

>>90545782
both are bad but still better than legends

>>90545938
That one hasn't even come out yet

>>90543400
i wish they had the balls to kill wally for good. the actor looks and sounds borderline retarded and the character is possibly the worst written character in any comic book series.

>>90545999
Early reviews say it's shit anon

>>90546032
>the actor looks and sounds borderline retarded
Compared to Jax they won the black lottery with him tbqh.

>>90546043
>I'm a sheep, anon

What happened to /co/?

>>90546409
>>I'm ButtHurt Over A Show Anon
Get over it

>>90546409
/co/ was calling it shit before the reviews once they said there would be no costume or mysticism

>>90546043
>Early reviews say
kek
>reviews say
lel.
only way to judge a show is to see some of it yourself. "its bad/good because someone told me so" is never acceptable

>>90546043
>believing this hard in reviews, especially reviews of shows that haven't even come out yet

Kek

Savitar keeps fucking saying "I am the future, Flash"

He's obviously the Future-Flash

>>90546453
>Butthurt

What in my posts gave that impression? Calling you out doesn't equate to that

>>90546457
That said, the fact that /co/ keeps making rotten tomatoes threads and >>90546043 keeps posting doesn't help /co/ in the long run

>>90546587
>Barry was there when Savitar was created, but didn't create him. Savitar created himself when he killed Iris and caused Barry Allen to become Savitar.
>Barry trapped Savitar in the future; Barry manages to save Iris this season and that Barry never becomes Savitar, he traps Savitar in the future.
>"You gave me the idea for Kid Flash when you created Flashpoint", Savitar is Tyler Durdening him.

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>>90545844
>from my point of view Barry is evil

>>90546696
I think most of that is shitposting while threads actually about content like this >>90450048 are more legitimate.

Everyone knows it's going to be bad.

>>90546720
Savitar is also bit mad, he sees himself as separate from barry since he was trapped for a very long time and went mad, he thinks of barry as too weak to get results
>>90546807
>only a meta deals in absolutes
_
>Have you heard the tragedy of Darth Savitar the speedy
>its old speed force legend, earth 2 fags would not have told you about it
>it was said he learned to go so fast that he could beat sonic and even save his loved ones from dying
>ironically he could not save himself from himself
>can such a skill be learned
>not from a zoomposter
polish it, Im busy

Look the fact is they need to cancel all the CW cape shows, period. Whatever enjoyment we had originated from "well its building up to ___, it going to get good". Im tired of this watered down shit. CW writers are terrible and only hurt the brands. Go read Rebirth or something

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>>90545844
And here we have the villain watching as his threat gets disposed of

>>90547124
writers are fine mostly, legends and supergirl have shirt writers, other than that its mostly budget but I agree that its time to let it sleep

>>90547136
how many coffees could he have gotten in that time?

>>90547136
Wow, glad I stopped watching Flash, what a cunt. Also further proves CW writers are shit at creating drama

>>90547124
>>90547243
Or you can just stop watching.

>>90547136
Holy shit. I dropped this show early in the season and thought you guys were exaggerating when you said he just stood there.

Why the fuck is he just standing there?

>>90547284
>Why the fuck is he just standing there?

Barry is good at 2 things:

>Fucking up the timeline
>getting his ass kicked

since this portal didn't offer Barry a chance to get his ass kicked or fuck up the timeline, he couldn't get involved here

>>90547284
There's no reason to get himself trapped as well.

>>90547243
No dont give me "the writers are fine" horseshit. We were forgiving early on for all of these shows because again, we all had the hope it would get better and that Oliver/Barry would become the characters we know. Didnt happen. Instead we have these shitty shows that only got this far because the writers had to follow the basic origins as a stepping stone but ultimately shit the bed when the training wheels were off. LoT is also a vehicle to recycle characters they cant use anymore. All they do know is cater to the most cancerous fandom imaginable and enable synergy that can fuck over the comics. We're just lucky DC hasnt gone full retard with Rebirth, because we all know what happened to the Green Arrow book in New 52

>>90547281
You're the reason why we cant have nice things

>>90547284
The writers don't understand how to give Barry actual threats so they have to make him look like a complete retard for anything dramatic to happen. They are still doing the pep talk shit even.

>>90543915
um, no. aos has found its groove

>>90543604
>>90545782
both way better than Flash

Why is jesse the most under used character?

>hey stand here as a prop
>omg you're such a girl! stay here to look at a dumb rock, don't save people from burning to death
>your bf is about to get killed by savitar don't run out there to try and help him just stay in the room and look bored

What a waste

>>90547388
Why trapped? Who is to say he could not free them both or combined effort would not be enough while single persons effort is not enough

You know its funny, comic Wally had more experience getting in/out of the speedforce than Barry. Also you know the writers are shit when speedsters are jobbing to gorillas, not Grodd

>>90547776
I can excuse a lot of things but I lost it when they said only Wally and barry could go to put out a BURNING APARTMENT because jesse was "still busy gushing over the ring". burning building is when you go for overkill and take everyone you can

>>90548014
even if its safe you still take her because it will be a good way to train and build up exp.

>>90545400
>>90545448

We Goku in Super now

>>90548061
I never watched DBZ. What do you mean

>>90546032
Him and Jesse are fucking terrible. Dunno what they were thinking

>>90546587

I just rewatched the episode, there isn't a comma pause.

he is literally saying, "I am future flash" No comma.

>i'll never kill Grodd!
>but I don't mind killing atom smasher!

>>90546032
You mean New 52 Wally right?

>>90543400
It's Eobard disguised as Barry. The real Barry's been stuck in a cell since Flashpoint ended.

>>90546032
Fuck you. He's actually almost likable considering where he started last season.

>>90547284
Cause wally is fucking shit. He deserved this

>>90548232
That would be fucking terrible!

>>90548232
>He's actually almost likable considering where he started last season.
he is but he is written as a teen, 17-23 tops but his body is too old for that so they should age up his character

>>90548343
>That would be fucking terrible!
the next season could be about barry being buttmad about how no one could tell the difference and how Irish let him touch her. every night he will be thinking about how many times Eobard creampied her

>>90548104
Everyone is saying Goku is the next villain of Super because of the whole universal tournament he made happen.

>>90548407
IT WAS ME BARRY! I FATHERED YOUR SON!!

>>90548371
I'm less irritated by him being written as a teen and more irritated that the writers don't know how to write. Relying on CW drama between him and Jesse is gonna bother me, and I was actually rooting for them

>>90546043
they hate white Danny

>>90548343
I know. That's why it's going to happen.

>>90548371
>>90548539
True. But he was slowly improving. Now we're going to have to sit through the inevitable PTSD/waffling on the sidelines arc.

>>90547726
>The Flash is way better than The Flash.

Does anyone else get the feeling that Wally is Sav? His want for fame and Sav's god complex make me think so. Not mention the sheer hatred both have for Barry at this point.

>>90549138
well you know, he can time travel

>>90543400
As you watch future episodes, imagine Barry is a complete psychopath, manipulating everyone around him however he has to, in order to get them to do what he wants. Maybe he wants to see them suffer, for instance. Just keep it in the back of your mind with each episode.

>>90543669
>he got a punch in the face for all his trouble.

And then pretended to have brain damage to get an apology out of Eddie.

Barry's been a dick from day one/

>>90550270
holy shit i fucking forgot about the brain damage thing. barry really is a shit

>>90550227
he murders a lot too

>tfw cried twice in this episode
Fucking Joe is a great actor, I hope he gets work after The Flash

>>90548409
Ceno was going to destroy the other universes anyway, Goku just gave them a -fighting- chance.

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>>90550462
>cried twice

jesus

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We all know Barry doesn't care about saving people. He just wants his stepsisters poonanny

>>90551228

I'm not even sure he wants that anymore, I just think world not doing what he wants bugs him on a fundamental level. I think the Anakin skywalker comparisons are only going to grow.

>>90543400
>>90543400
Such a weak episode full of characters just trying their hardest to make sure they lose.

>>90547136

Nigga just stands there and watches him get sucked in.

>>90550462
>>tfw cried twice in this episode

I don't understand people like you.

>>90544577
da fuk

>>90543915
found the plebian

How did Julian went from the best character to being the worst?

Barry should have stayed in flashpoint.

>>90553138
Why exactly did he leave? Less people were dead there.

>>90553191
Because bad writing.

>>90543915
>Absorbing Man like 4 times
>he's actually a good guy this time
>didn't get a Titania
I'm mad

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>>90543946
Savitar is either future Wally or alternate Eddie. Future dark Barry COULD become a storyline at somepoint, like the comics where future Barry showed up and started correcting past Barry's mistakes.
>>90553138
He was losing his memory and Wally died because plot device. He unwittingly let Thawne escape his fate and change the timeline to what it is, it's why the new timeline exists.

>>90553965

>leaving the story up to a shitty actor like wally's actor

it is never going to be wally, people need to let it go.

>>90553965
I know what happened I watched the episode. He should have stayed there.

>>90554020
It doesn't matter who it is, it's a stupid storyline. Honestly I hope they come up with an original idea for Savitar's identity.
>>90554045
This is Barry we're talking about. He knew as soon as the speedforce was leaving him he was going to go back. He might have stayed in Flashpoint had that not happened, Wally be damned.

Would it have killed them to make Barry at least try to help him? Or did they need to show off their mediocre CGI of the week?

>>90548119
And sand demon!

>>90554819
It was apart of the plot. In a normal episode Barry would have asked Star Labs idiots on what to do. They would have said RUN FAST BARRY, then he would have saved Wally.

So how did Caitlin even get a piece of the stone? It was in the box the whole time until Cisco opened it briefly, its not like she could've snuck a piece without Savitar showing up to rape everyone.

>>90555340
She cut a piece of the stone, Barry tossed the other half into the speedforce.

>>90545538
Flash doesn't use the pipeline that much. Criminals have been going to Iron Heights since Season 2.

Why'd they waste the rogues?

>>90555378
My point was that there was never any point in time where they had to stone that she could have cut it.

>>90553106
Julian's hardly the worst, there's quite a few people before him, and the only time I ever find Savitar threatening is when he's possessing him.

>>90555422
Watch the episodes you idiot and stop bumping this thread with shit.

>>90547104
Kek

>>90543400
The show always does that. There's plenty of occasions where Barry stands there like an idiot and completely forgets he has superspeed

How fast will you all drop S4 when it's a speedster main villain again?

I don't think I can take much more "Barry forgot his powers and needs to be told to go fast" routine. Nothing is more pathetic than heroes who can't figure out how to solve their own problems. I don't even think the writers remember he's a scientist.

>>90555457
Why don't you because she never had the opportunity to cut it.

>>90555554
You get to a point where it doesnt matter or you stop watching.
>>90555607
Yeah she did because it was in Star Labs. They didnt show it on screen child.

>>90553191
Because his BFF Reverse Flash told him it was the only way to... Wait, what was it the only way for again?

>>90555652

To save Wally

So do you think the Flash and Legends storylines are going to intersect?

>>90555687
Well, I'm sure they're gonna bullshit something to keep Reverse Flash alive and not on the run from Black Flash. Mick might also have a go at the spear and wish Snart back to life.

I first got wary of the show when they stole away the Rogues just to boost that awful spin off show

Then Season 2 was trash and Flash started killing people nonchalently (wtf!) on top of locking them up unlawfully! That Jay Garrick actor was so bad, I'm sure he's a nice guy but wow!!!

Then Season 3 hit and we saw Flashpoint and what not but then Barry kept time traveling despite knowing the damage it would do!! He's a real jerk. I had to stop watching because it jipped me so much. But I caught this week's episode and agree with the TC. Barry was acting very mean and suspicious

Him yelling "I'm going to kill you" reminds me of the opening of the video game Jak 2

>>90556009

>legends
>awful

Fuck off

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>>90556009
S2 MURDERER barry was great - fuck you.

>>90556958
This is the same guy that balked at killing a nuclear powered Ape.

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>the flash

>>90555554
I'd probably still watch it, just to see how much of a trainwreck it is. Though the only way I'd tolerate it is if they managed to adapt the Return of Barry Allen like I think they're going to do.

>>90543604
That's a weird way to spell "Bird Up".

>>90550636
I know. Still doesn't stop everyone from saying goku is a villy.

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>>90557062

And they're trying the "Who is he" routine with savitar again.